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Speaker 3: All the Super Bowl champs they can't stop the clock.
Speaker 3: We call them the Salty Dogs.
Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to the Very Cheerful Salty Dogs Podcast.
Speaker 3: Very cheerful. I'm Scott Smith, I'm Jeff Ryan. Aren't you cheerful?
Speaker 3: I'm grateful, grateful oyes. I'm just happy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that that Sunday.
Speaker 3: Really well, I'll be happier on Sunday, coming Sunday.
Speaker 2: But you wouldn't even be necessarily in position to be happy,
Speaker 2: you know. So this is a podcast about mostly about
Speaker 2: Buccaneers football. It is tend to digress from time to time. Ever,
Speaker 2: just to bear with.
Speaker 3: Us there it doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: We do have a special guest with us right here,
Speaker 2: right now, we do. It's the Ducks.
Speaker 3: Dear duck im version quack quack. Oh, come on, you
Speaker 3: better than that.
Speaker 2: We don't have the duck weight. We wish we had
Speaker 2: the dug with like that.
Speaker 3: You hear that?
Speaker 2: What your duck impression?
Speaker 3: No? Can you hear this?
Speaker 2: No sound effect or something?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm hitting a sound effect and is it a duck. No,
Speaker 3: it's a drum roll. It's a drummer. Put them bump
Speaker 3: because you brought the duck up and I made a
Speaker 3: comment that a lot of mileage on that duck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's gonna it's probably gonna get old.
Speaker 3: Yeah before it's over. Yeah, you can usually usually, well
Speaker 3: that's what happens. Though.
Speaker 2: You could tell immediately where I was in the presspect.
Speaker 2: You know, you're in the radio booth and you had
Speaker 2: things you had to keep everybody focused on. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: you could tell from everybody around me and all the endlist,
Speaker 2: Microsoft teams, chains and so on, that this was gonna
Speaker 2: be uh, this is gonna go viral? Well, you knew immediately, Oh.
Speaker 3: No question. And I will say this. It's on Instagram
Speaker 3: the radio call and they have the duck showing and
Speaker 3: then they have us in the booth showing above it.
Speaker 3: It's really well done. So it's Buccaneers Instagram. Go see it.
Speaker 3: You can see. It is actually one of our better
Speaker 3: calls really, because Gene is setting up for the punt,
Speaker 3: Dave goes there's a duck on the field, and then
Speaker 3: Gene just goes into the whole thing, and we did
Speaker 3: not miss the block punt at all. We didn't even
Speaker 3: though the TV. Even though the TV did, we stayed
Speaker 3: right with it all the way as it was great
Speaker 3: and it was well done well. The duck was cute.
Speaker 2: If anybody, I can't believe, I can't imagine anybody that
Speaker 2: would listen to this podcast doesn't know what we're talking about.
Speaker 2: But just in case, just in case, the game in
Speaker 2: the third quarter of the game on Sunday against Carolina,
Speaker 2: a duck that I didn't know this at first, but
Speaker 2: if I had kind of been above the stadium and
Speaker 2: three times, I guess it got tired and needed a
Speaker 2: place to sit for a while, so it landed on
Speaker 2: the field right.
Speaker 3: Todd said that he came to watch the game and
Speaker 3: he couldn't get a seat, so he just grabbed the field.
Speaker 2: He was closer to the north end zone and the
Speaker 2: punt was going on from the south end zone and
Speaker 2: then the punk got blocked, So that just added to
Speaker 2: the whole thing. Is like the duck brought us all
Speaker 2: this luck. And then a couple of people very gently
Speaker 2: helped get it off the field and out of the stadium,
Speaker 2: mostly UH, a guy anchor anchor.
Speaker 3: I can't think of his last name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, right, watch it if you can find the
Speaker 2: clip of him on Good Morning Football. It was really funny,
Speaker 2: well done. It was very funny. And him sitting there
Speaker 2: in his resplendent bullet and I'm not making fun of him.
Speaker 2: He has entered into mullet cou.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah no. What's also interesting about all of
Speaker 3: that is in the mic miked up segment of the Bucks,
Speaker 3: Trey Palmer is talking to Mike Evans about standing there
Speaker 3: and looking over and seeing the duck. It's really again
Speaker 3: well done. If you go to it's funny, that would
Speaker 3: be I don't know. We have so many different things
Speaker 3: where we put.
Speaker 2: I don't think miked up will be up yet, but
Speaker 2: no I did. I saw it well, it'd be on
Speaker 2: Buccaneer's socket.
Speaker 3: Then yeah, okay, because sometimes I get confused where miked
Speaker 3: up goes and where Instagram stuff goes, and then try
Speaker 3: to put it on everything where TikTok stuff goes. I
Speaker 3: there's a lot of places to find that stuff. YouTube correct,
Speaker 3: so the app, Yeah, it's well done, though it is.
Speaker 3: It is very fun. What do you need more? You
Speaker 3: make it just a little lower for me or do
Speaker 3: you are you having a hard time to hear Hello? Hello? Okay,
Speaker 3: it's going in and out there we go. That's good?
Speaker 3: Is that better? Yeah? Let me plug this a little tighter.
Speaker 2: There for you. I was just afraid that I wasn't
Speaker 2: actually oh yeah, you're all recorded, and that this would
Speaker 2: be a very strange podcast where you were like talking
Speaker 2: to just me yourself, but that'd be about ducks and things. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So that the duck was fun, and then it was
Speaker 2: really funny afterwards when obviously ducky, but it was funny
Speaker 2: because early on in the game, Bucky Irving was already
Speaker 2: getting Bucky chance. Yeah, and and then the duck landing
Speaker 2: and people got into that and they started chanting Ducky,
Speaker 2: which was very very funny. And then in the postgame
Speaker 2: press conference they brought Bucky up to the podium, uh
Speaker 2: and he they they asked him about that. He said, well,
Speaker 2: to me, it's just a sign that the Oregon Ducks
Speaker 2: are gonna win the national championship. There are the ducks.
Speaker 3: He did.
Speaker 2: How good was all that together?
Speaker 3: It was? It was actually great. Jane called him Ducky
Speaker 3: Irving the duck when he was out there all during
Speaker 3: the same time, not later on, like after you thought
Speaker 3: about it. Huh, it was all immediate, So it was.
Speaker 3: It was one of those it's it was a fun thing.
Speaker 3: It is a fun thing. Yeah, I've never seen. Someone
Speaker 3: asked me, have I ever seen? And I've seen a
Speaker 3: lot of stuff in thirty some years of football, but
Speaker 3: I've not seen a duck on the field before.
Speaker 2: It's the latest celebrity animal running around the fields. Like,
Speaker 2: didn't the Angels have a squirrel for a while?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: My Cardinals had something for a while, but I can't
Speaker 2: remember what it was. It's just it has to happen
Speaker 2: naturally and then hopefully, hopefully did all the humor isn't
Speaker 2: wrung out of it.
Speaker 3: Well, I thought Dave said it best too. He and
Speaker 3: Dave Moore made a comment during the broadcast, is it
Speaker 3: was a good thing that punt was blocked because that
Speaker 3: duck would have been killed?
Speaker 2: I don't even want to think about that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, if you're running down there and there,
Speaker 3: I mean, seriously, the guy wouldn't think twice it would
Speaker 3: It would fly away if all these yeah, oh well
Speaker 3: they tried to move it and he did.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it wasn't it was.
Speaker 3: It was fearful.
Speaker 2: Five people running down and he did move too, and
Speaker 2: then he he was going towards the sideline. Then the
Speaker 2: reverse course went right through that guy's legs. Yeah, running back,
Speaker 2: But I thought was funny.
Speaker 3: On Trey Palmer made a comment that he looked over
Speaker 3: and saw the duck and he didn't overreact to it
Speaker 3: because they do so many different things in stadiums now.
Speaker 2: He just thought it was part of the new stuff,
Speaker 2: that it's part of our entertainment.
Speaker 3: Well, we get a lot of that now.
Speaker 2: So they came over from what's that park right there?
Speaker 2: A Lopez Park right next to the stadium, right across
Speaker 2: the street.
Speaker 3: That could very well be that's it. So it kind
Speaker 3: of anyways, it quacked me up.
Speaker 2: There was also oh god, jo hey, this is where
Speaker 2: this goes in.
Speaker 3: You can't hear it. You'll have to you'll have to
Speaker 3: listen to your own podcast. Just put it on my bill,
Speaker 3: all right, Oh that's in my cap. Wow you are.
Speaker 2: You are a very good family thing, is it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, you and your sister. That's very good. Wow.
Speaker 3: We could have put you on the air and used
Speaker 3: all that stuff.
Speaker 2: I could keep going but I won't. People might flock.
Speaker 3: Away from the podcast if I did.
Speaker 2: Wow, yes, anyway, you got more in you. But no,
Speaker 2: there are there are games. There was a game as well,
Speaker 2: and it went really, really well.
Speaker 3: It was all four facets finally showed up. What's the
Speaker 3: fourth one? Coaching? Oh yeah, you didn't mean to.
Speaker 2: Say that it was a complete that Mike or Todd Bowles.
Speaker 3: Didn't all three fast. I'm sorry. I was thinking offense, defense,
Speaker 3: special teams. It's like the sixth sense. Yes, the fourth
Speaker 3: facet is the fans were in. That's what it was,
Speaker 3: the fans all four.
Speaker 2: Yes, uh, the fans now will be known as the
Speaker 2: fourth facet.
Speaker 3: As as Todd says, you know, you got to give
Speaker 3: him something to cheer about, and they certainly did well.
Speaker 2: It was good because it was a think think about
Speaker 2: the New Orleans game right in New Orleans really came
Speaker 2: out just firing on all cylinders and opened up a
Speaker 2: big lead, and then the second quarter went haywire and
Speaker 2: we were actually losing at halftime, and then they had
Speaker 2: to like turn it on again in the second half.
Speaker 2: There wasn't really any lull this time.
Speaker 3: That's what I meant, all four, meaning we played for
Speaker 3: all four quarters. I hadn't done that before. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: took me a while to recoup, but I made it
Speaker 3: and made it work.
Speaker 2: So, Uh, the Buccaneers scored on each of their first
Speaker 2: five drives, which is awesome.
Speaker 3: Uh, they scored.
Speaker 2: They were a little disappointed they didn't get the ball
Speaker 2: into the in zone on the second and third right,
Speaker 2: but still they kept going. Got up big. Now, Bryce
Speaker 2: Young did hit a couple of plays a big place,
Speaker 2: and yeah, a couple of downfield plays that Todd was
Speaker 2: mad about being coverage bus.
Speaker 3: And I heard what he said to TJ. It was great,
Speaker 3: and I probably said, well, this is this at halftime.
Speaker 3: At halftime, going off the field, we get a couple
Speaker 3: of questions with coach, and you know it's in the moment,
Speaker 3: so you're no filter, no filter at all. And so
Speaker 3: as we're going across, you know, hey, you were scoring, yeah,
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. And then defensively you've gave up a
Speaker 3: couple of big plays. What needs to be better in
Speaker 3: the second in the second half, and Todd replied that
Speaker 3: the Dbs need to get their head out of their asses,
Speaker 3: And uh, honestly, I really truly liked that answer because
Speaker 3: it was such an honest answer. What made me laugh
Speaker 3: even more was in the press conference after the game
Speaker 3: that was brought up of what you know during that time,
Speaker 3: TJ asked the question that the person set it up,
Speaker 3: getting their heads out of their asses. What happened? And
Speaker 3: and Todd said, I think it's it's obvious.
Speaker 2: They said, I think it's kind of what was wordy used,
Speaker 2: it either speaks for itself. Yeah, it speaks for itself.
Speaker 2: They pulled it out. They pulled it out.
Speaker 3: That was the quote that was great. So it was
Speaker 3: one of those games where it just seemed that that
Speaker 3: no matter what happened, there was something funny coming out
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 2: You know, Well, it's easy to laugh when you're steaming
Speaker 2: towards forty to fourteen country.
Speaker 3: And they did shut them out in the second half,
Speaker 3: so apparently they just in New Orleans games. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: apparently they He did what they told him to do.
Speaker 3: It was great.
Speaker 2: So the only drive that the the last drive of
Speaker 2: the second half was really the only drive that failed
Speaker 2: for the Bucks. Out of nine, he scored on seven
Speaker 2: of them. The last one was just kneeling at the
Speaker 2: end to kill the clock. But they had driven into
Speaker 2: scoring range there too, So if there was more time,
Speaker 2: Bucks was scored an eight of their nine drives probably,
Speaker 2: and then you know, you can't really be mad about
Speaker 2: one drive. I think there was maybe a sack and
Speaker 2: a penalty on it, so it was it was a
Speaker 2: they had dug a bit of a hole, so you know,
Speaker 2: you can't complain about it. Just one networking.
Speaker 3: When I see this, it it kind of I don't know,
Speaker 3: it kind of scares me in a good way. Is
Speaker 3: whenever there's a really great game, the next game doesn't
Speaker 3: go as well. And you know, you come off that
Speaker 3: Charger game and you're like wow, and then you misfired
Speaker 3: during the Dallas game. But then you come back and
Speaker 3: I realized that Carolina didn't have all their weapons and
Speaker 3: Carolina is in a rebuilding mode. But you really did
Speaker 3: dominate that game, and that's what you expected to happen
Speaker 3: and that's what did happen. So now does that carry
Speaker 3: over to this next week coming up with the Saints.
Speaker 2: Just to rewind a little bit, I opened up the
Speaker 2: postgame quotes style. Yeah, And first of all, you know,
Speaker 2: if you've ever seen one of these, they always have
Speaker 2: in uh parentheses.
Speaker 3: I liked how you did that with your hands. I
Speaker 3: drew a huge parentheses.
Speaker 2: To make sure I I got the word parentheses, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, is that what that respect? And I
Speaker 2: thought that wasn't the right word.
Speaker 3: It is though it is.
Speaker 2: It's not quotations, and they you know, so the reader
Speaker 2: understands what the topic is this one. And the way
Speaker 2: they wrote it was on his halftime comments that the
Speaker 2: defensive backs needed to get their heads out of their
Speaker 2: rear ears.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they that's that's the communication department being very nice.
Speaker 2: And the word we were looking for that Todd said
Speaker 2: was self explanatory.
Speaker 3: Oh there it was. It was self explanatory. They pulled
Speaker 3: him out. That's great.
Speaker 2: So Bucky Irving, we've kind of brought him up, so
Speaker 2: let's talk about him, all right. He started the game
Speaker 2: but sort of shot. Yeah, so I don't think we
Speaker 2: necessarily have a change on the depth chart to talk about.
Speaker 2: It was the first time he'd started a game in
Speaker 2: which Rashot also played. He started the New Orleans game
Speaker 2: when Rosa was out. But if you take the fact
Speaker 2: that he started Alongsider shot and he got the carry
Speaker 2: on that first play, and then Rashad came out of
Speaker 2: the game. I don't know if it was next player.
Speaker 2: A couple of days later and Bucky got like the
Speaker 2: first six carries of the game for us. So it
Speaker 2: was really the first time other than the Saints game,
Speaker 2: where the coaching staff where Todd and Liam Cohen decided
Speaker 2: that they're going to try to get him out there
Speaker 2: and get him going right away. So it was it
Speaker 2: was a little bit of a change, right. It's a
Speaker 2: little bit of an evolution of how the backfield has gone,
Speaker 2: and it's kind of been a gradual thing all season
Speaker 2: and to the point where now Bucky is clearly your
Speaker 2: featured back. Rashod had I think eight carries and Bucky
Speaker 2: had twenty.
Speaker 3: And he's still Rashod still an important part of.
Speaker 2: Shot shot at a nice game, he had like thirty
Speaker 2: yards on eight carries, so and he's obviously they trust
Speaker 2: him in pass protection too, and we're gonna need him.
Speaker 2: But I mean, Bucky's kind of been your most dynamic
Speaker 2: back of this season, and that's kind of what Todd said.
Speaker 2: He said, Rashot's playing well, but Bucky's just playing better,
Speaker 2: and he's he's the one that's turning these you know,
Speaker 2: a couple couple plays a game into big plays. I
Speaker 2: mean he had on two straight plays he had a
Speaker 2: thirty four yeard run in a forty two yard catch
Speaker 2: and run, and he finished the game with one hundred
Speaker 2: and eleven yards after contact.
Speaker 3: Which is pretty phenomenal and the best he's.
Speaker 2: Been doing that all year. But that was his highest
Speaker 2: total one hundred and ninety total yards from scrimmage. He
Speaker 2: cracked a thousand yards rushing, first running back since Doug
Speaker 2: Martin in twenty fifteen. It's almost a decade ago to
Speaker 2: do that, and the first rookie to do it since
Speaker 2: Doug Martin in twenty twelve.
Speaker 3: What amazes me with Bucky In college, you see guys
Speaker 3: stop and juke guys out, and when you see that
Speaker 3: in college, you go, Okay, it's college. I don't know
Speaker 3: how that's going to really work in the NFL, and
Speaker 3: you see a lot of times it doesn't. You know,
Speaker 3: you can't be trying to fake a guy out for
Speaker 3: whatever reason. He can stop and turn better than I've
Speaker 3: ever seen anyone else do that except for Barry Sanders.
Speaker 3: It's always except for Barry Sanders. It's all. I mean,
Speaker 3: you don't even have to say that.
Speaker 2: Well, you do, but I just don't don't want us
Speaker 2: to acused of getting out over our No.
Speaker 3: No, no. But what I'm saying is, if you watch
Speaker 3: him run and you watch him make people miss, the
Speaker 3: first person hitting him does not get him down.
Speaker 2: First person that'supposed to him doesn't always hit him because
Speaker 2: he's gone all of a sudden. He If you think
Speaker 2: about the thirty four yard run, you know that kind
Speaker 2: of sweep to the right. I think it was probably
Speaker 2: a gap play with pollers. Another thing that has really
Speaker 2: helped him. And it's funny because we've said this before,
Speaker 2: but I'll repeat it. He was just this type of
Speaker 2: runner in college, and he was a good pass gescher,
Speaker 2: so he had done it all. He had the tape,
Speaker 2: but the the issues were his speed because I think
Speaker 2: he only ran like a four or five five, and
Speaker 2: the fact he's not that big of a guy. And
Speaker 2: so that's why the Buccaneers were able to get him
Speaker 2: in the fourth round.
Speaker 3: I was just gonna bring that up.
Speaker 2: If he had, you know, run a four to three
Speaker 2: and was, you know, twenty pounds bigger or a couple
Speaker 2: of inches taller, he probably would have been a late
Speaker 2: first round pick.
Speaker 3: And we wouldn't have got Yeah, he doesn't have that
Speaker 3: overdrive speed, but what he has does pretty well.
Speaker 2: But the reason I brought that up again is because
Speaker 2: on that that run to the right. You after watching
Speaker 2: the replays afterwards and when they showed the angle from
Speaker 2: the end zone, I realize that's what they're talking about
Speaker 2: when they say that he kind of hides like in
Speaker 2: the as the plays developing, as you're watching it from
Speaker 2: the end zone on the replay, you don't see him
Speaker 2: behind those moving offensive linemen and tight ends. You don't
Speaker 2: you don't see him. He's not in the picture. And
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, boom, he comes out
Speaker 2: behind them into the into the hole. And I really
Speaker 2: believe that there's something to the fact that the defenders
Speaker 2: are having a hard time finding where he is right
Speaker 2: before he makes that big acceleration into the hole right,
Speaker 2: and I, you know, I think that's works. So size
Speaker 2: was part of the reason he dropped the fourth round,
Speaker 2: But in a way, on some places it's kind of
Speaker 2: working to his advantage, and he's his size has not
Speaker 2: led to him being overwhelmed or because you see him
Speaker 2: breaking tack too. It's not just mistackles. He breaks tackles
Speaker 2: sometimes and maybe it's only a three yard run, but
Speaker 2: he's not just being leveled at the line of scrimmage
Speaker 2: by big defenders, right, So really.
Speaker 3: And you got to give credit to the again to
Speaker 3: Jason Lighten and staff finding people like that and going, Okay,
Speaker 3: we don't care what anybody else is saying, we see this,
Speaker 3: we're going to look. We think we're right.
Speaker 2: Well, we took him in the fourth round, though it's
Speaker 2: only we took him in the first round.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's and it seems now all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: everybody has got to have a running back again, because
Speaker 3: remember people were kind of like saying, ah, you know,
Speaker 3: you really don't need to spend a lot for running
Speaker 3: but you really don't need and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: now running backs are back in favor.
Speaker 2: I think both of those things can be true, though
Speaker 2: that what you're kind of talking about is the fact
Speaker 2: that over the last ten or fifteen years, the running
Speaker 2: back the market running backs has declined, you know, to
Speaker 2: the part where for some years it was hard for
Speaker 2: any of them to get a big second contract. And
Speaker 2: that's because they tend to other more so than other positions,
Speaker 2: tend to wear down quicker and have shorter careers, and
Speaker 2: also the fact that you can occasionally, mean more than occasionally,
Speaker 2: just find a guy like Bucky Irving in the fourth round.
Speaker 2: But I do think there was a bit of a
Speaker 2: correction this year for those veteran backs that are really good.
Speaker 2: You know, Saquon Barkley. The Eagles decided to pay him,
Speaker 2: and if it weren't for some of these great quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: he might be the MVP this year. Ye who else
Speaker 2: got There was a couple others I can't remember now,
Speaker 2: but there's a couple of other running backs that got
Speaker 2: new contracts and they all see, well, Derrek Henry, Derrick Henry,
Speaker 2: and balk.
Speaker 3: Goes to another team and it's worked.
Speaker 2: It works, It's worth very much worth the money as
Speaker 2: a proved Joe Mixon in Houston.
Speaker 3: But would would would some of these guys be as
Speaker 3: good if they stayed with their own team?
Speaker 2: No, one probably wouldn't have had good of a year
Speaker 2: and with the Giants, but he still was good and
Speaker 2: everybody knew how talented he was. He was like the
Speaker 2: second pick in the draft a few years ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Giants.
Speaker 2: But you can see what I mean in that the
Speaker 2: Giants and they may regret it now, especially if he
Speaker 2: gets the record while playing against them this weekend.
Speaker 3: Oh jeez, you know.
Speaker 2: That's going to happen, and then we'll all see the
Speaker 2: clip of the the owner's side. Oh you know, I'm
Speaker 2: I sure hope he doesn't. Yeah, I'm gonna regret it
Speaker 2: if he goes, if he goes to the Eagles.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: But then also, the Giants drafted Tyrone Tracy and he's
Speaker 2: not Saquon Barkley, but he's been perfectly serviceable as a
Speaker 2: you know, productive lead back. So it can happen both ways.
Speaker 2: I mean, but this particular year, the import of running
Speaker 2: backs has worked out very well. Josh Jacobs for the
Speaker 2: Packers and Aaron Jones from the Packers goes to the
Speaker 2: Vikings and they're all have worked out.
Speaker 3: And where it's going to be a big thing if
Speaker 3: having a good running back is when, if, and when
Speaker 3: the Buccaneers have to go up into cold weather. Yeah,
Speaker 3: well that run game be very helpful. Is that possible?
Speaker 2: So right?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Would it not be?
Speaker 2: I'm just want to lay it all out right now.
Speaker 2: You know, let's just this is not guaranteed, and I
Speaker 2: but if the Bucks win, they're in and they're probably
Speaker 2: the four seed unless the Rams lose to Seattle, in
Speaker 2: which case the Bucks would be the three.
Speaker 3: Seed because of our common opponents, no conference record, conference record.
Speaker 2: Okay, but uh, if they're if they're the four seed.
Speaker 2: If the Bucks are the four seed, they're going to
Speaker 2: either get Minnesota or Detroit, which everyone doesn't win that division,
Speaker 2: be at home against Minnesota and Detroit.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And green Bay is most likely to be the seventh
Speaker 2: seed because where are we talking about cold green Bay?
Speaker 2: And because Detroit's dome, Minnesota's a dome, Rams is LA
Speaker 2: and so it's just green Bay or Washington Eagles. Oh Eagles, okay,
Speaker 2: up having a yeah, but not in the first round, no,
Speaker 2: you would. Yeah, that's in fact, if you're the three
Speaker 2: seed and you win, then you're probably going to Philly.
Speaker 3: There you go, there you go, there you go.
Speaker 2: Hey, we like going to Philly in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: I like it. You know, listen, if we I don't
Speaker 3: care where it is, if we go. If you win
Speaker 3: a playoff game, but you got to go play another
Speaker 3: playoff game, it doesn't matter where. Just go.
Speaker 2: So this is a this sheet.
Speaker 3: See the sheet. Oh gosh, it's color coded. So it's
Speaker 3: got a lot of numbers on it. They're making my
Speaker 3: hair hurt.
Speaker 2: What is that I'm telling you, I'm trying to tell
Speaker 2: you what you're talking about. Her hair hurt.
Speaker 3: Well, because i'm looking at your sheet, I'm going to
Speaker 3: show it to you in a second. Okay, did you
Speaker 3: make this? No, I didn't make it.
Speaker 2: The NFL made it. Oh, there a little logo right there. Okay.
Speaker 2: So there are six games that factor into the NFC
Speaker 2: playoff field in the last week. Of course, five of
Speaker 2: the spots are already decided because Detroit's locked in. Detroitter
Speaker 2: Minnesota will be the one seed, Lilly is locked in
Speaker 2: the two seed. The Rams will be either three or
Speaker 2: four they won their division. The loser of Detroit Minnesota
Speaker 2: will be the five seed.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 2: Washington wins and they will be the six seed. They
Speaker 2: have already locked up a wild card spot. Andy has
Speaker 2: already locked up a wild card spot and will be
Speaker 2: either six or seven. So there are six games. There
Speaker 2: are sixty four possibilities of how these six games could
Speaker 2: turn out.
Speaker 3: You know this is just for six games right now.
Speaker 2: These are the six games. Yeah, I see them, and
Speaker 2: there are sixty four possible combinations of the results and
Speaker 2: you can choose anyone you want and see.
Speaker 3: The NFC nuts field. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: You can do the same thing on the ESPN playff machine.
Speaker 3: Muy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to take all the time to like, yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, right, this is a grid that shows us.
Speaker 3: So so can the average person get this grid?
Speaker 2: I would think so because it's from the NFL.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I got it from Michael Pahannock.
Speaker 3: Oh okay. I was just wondering if it was like, uh,
Speaker 3: internal NFL stuff or whether it was.
Speaker 2: I would go on the NFL dot com and look,
Speaker 2: I mean, it is very very cool resource.
Speaker 3: Because you're seeing now Detroit and Minnesota could be number one.
Speaker 3: Philadelphia they're always going to be number two no matter what.
Speaker 3: No one gets to be number two. Number three is
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay or the number four Tampa Bay or the
Speaker 3: Rams number five or the Falcons or the Falcons. Minnesota
Speaker 3: could be five, and which crazy is Detroit can be one?
Speaker 3: Soakad Minnesota. But after this Sunday's game, one's going to
Speaker 3: be one and one's going to be five.
Speaker 2: It is amazing to me that there's a team that's
Speaker 2: right now fourteen and two and yeah, is going to
Speaker 2: be going on the road.
Speaker 3: That's that's incorrect. That's the other thing people are going
Speaker 3: to get all jacked up about is why does I
Speaker 3: know every time? I don't, I know why because it's divisions.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying everybody gets cranked up over that.
Speaker 2: They do they like that. Why does fourteen and three
Speaker 2: Minnesota in a row, well ten and seven or even
Speaker 2: possibly nine and eight right Atlanta or the Bucks get down?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: That argument is never works for me. I don't care.
Speaker 3: To me, that's not a problem.
Speaker 2: This is the way the system is. And you get
Speaker 2: rewarded for winning your division, correct, period, and that is
Speaker 2: your reward. And I would say the same thing if
Speaker 2: it was working against the Buck right, correct. So I
Speaker 2: mean we had to go play Super Bowl years it
Speaker 2: wasn't Washington seven and nine, yep, and we had to
Speaker 2: go up there. We had to go play there, and
Speaker 2: I don't think we complained. We didn't think it was unfair.
Speaker 2: They won their division.
Speaker 3: That's we didn't. That's why they have it broken out.
Speaker 3: I hope they never changed. If that was the case,
Speaker 3: you would have no divisions. You would just have sixteen
Speaker 3: teams like like back in Yeah, yeah, America actual one. However,
Speaker 3: many of that's that was before that was before you
Speaker 3: had playoffs and anything. It was just Penning number yeah,
Speaker 3: number one and number one. That's the World Series.
Speaker 2: That's that's the way it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, which suck because you could be out of
Speaker 3: it in like May, like you'd be the Royals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you just give you just give all your
Speaker 2: good players to the Yankees. Royals were like the Yankees
Speaker 2: farm team. Isn't that where they.
Speaker 3: Got Reggie Jackson? No? Well, man, he come from Oakland
Speaker 3: and that.
Speaker 2: Was later than I'm talking about. I'm talking more like
Speaker 2: the fifties, forties and fifties. Isn't there where they got
Speaker 2: Marris Well?
Speaker 3: The Royals didn't come in till the sixties. Kansas City Royals.
Speaker 3: They used to be the Kansas City Athletics, and then
Speaker 3: the Athletics moved to Oakland and then the Royals came.
Speaker 3: I want to say that sometime in the sixties and
Speaker 3: mid sixties.
Speaker 2: Because I could have sworn Roger Merris played for the Royals.
Speaker 3: Uh he played. I know he played for the Yankees
Speaker 3: and the Cardinals, did he not?
Speaker 2: I don't think it was the car I'm going to
Speaker 2: be embarrassing.
Speaker 3: Well, it was like it was like Missouri, right, here's.
Speaker 2: A franchise on Well, Kansas City's in Missouri. Yeah, well
Speaker 2: the Royals have been around since sixty one.
Speaker 3: Pretty good, ste thank you, pretty good. Uh So Roger Marris,
Speaker 3: I think Roger Marris was with the Yankees and the Cardinals.
Speaker 2: I thought he was somewhere before the Yankees maybe, and
Speaker 2: now I'm afraid it's the Cardinals and the Uh Okay,
Speaker 2: he was with the Kansas City Athletics. Okay, there you
Speaker 2: go in fifty eight to fifty nine. He had been
Speaker 2: with Cleveland prior to that.
Speaker 3: But did he not also go to the Cardinals at
Speaker 3: one time at the very.
Speaker 2: End of his Yeah, okay, I didn't know that. I
Speaker 2: just didn't think it was with the Cardinals before the Yankees.
Speaker 2: Cardinals before the Yankees.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a big to do when when you
Speaker 3: know when team because teams hadn't moved, I mean, uh,
Speaker 3: fifty eight fifty nine, I think it was the Dodgers
Speaker 3: and and the Giants moved out west and then it
Speaker 3: was like ten years and you know, a team hadn't moved,
Speaker 3: and that was a big deal in teams. I noticed
Speaker 3: that is it like a fade.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just cut out for a moment,
Speaker 2: all right, but you weren't touching anything.
Speaker 3: Now it's fine, all right.
Speaker 2: So anyway, Uh.
Speaker 3: See how we kind of digress where I don't know
Speaker 3: how we got get there. Oh, because of all the
Speaker 3: combinations and how there's divisions and why there shouldn't be divisions.
Speaker 2: And okay, so so the fans, Oh that's right. The
Speaker 2: six games that matter, uh this coming week in our Minnesota, Detroit,
Speaker 2: New Orleans of Tampa Bay, Carolina, Atlanta, Seattle at the Rams,
Speaker 2: Washington and Dallas, and Chicago at Green Bay. And all
Speaker 2: those games except for the Rams game are at one o'clock.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well that's because the Rams are on the West coast.
Speaker 2: Right the only reason. I mean, they take great pains too.
Speaker 2: If there's two teams still vying for the division title,
Speaker 2: they want to make sure they're playing at the same time.
Speaker 2: So if the Buccaneers, if the Falcons were at one
Speaker 2: and the Bucks were at four, and the Falcons lost,
Speaker 2: we would clinch and we could go, well, let's.
Speaker 3: Get some of our starters. Yeah, yeah, our starters.
Speaker 2: So I'll read those. You give me, you give me
Speaker 2: you tell me who wins each one of these games, Okay, Minnesota.
Speaker 3: Detroit, Minnesota, Okay, New.
Speaker 2: Orleans at Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay, Carolina at Atlanta.
Speaker 3: I don't know why, but I think CAROLINEA is gonna winow.
Speaker 2: Wow Wow, Minnesota, Tampa Bay, Carolina, Seattle at the Rams.
Speaker 3: Well, I kind of want Seattle to win because I
Speaker 3: want the Bucks to be Who do you think is
Speaker 3: going to win? Rams? Uh?
Speaker 2: So you said Minnesota, Tampa Bay, carolind the Rams, uh,
Speaker 2: Washington and Dallas, Washington, Minnesota, Tampa Bay, Carolina, Rams, Washington,
Speaker 2: and then Chicago, Green.
Speaker 3: Bay, Oh, Green Bay. All right?
Speaker 2: If those six happened that way, it would be Minnesota one,
Speaker 2: Philly two, Rams three, Bucks four, Detroit five, Washington six,
Speaker 2: and Green Bay seven. Okay, and we would be at
Speaker 2: home against Detroit, who the Buccaneers have beaten this year. Sure,
Speaker 2: and I have so many injuries.
Speaker 3: Well that has been that that has become a rivalry game,
Speaker 3: you know, so extent because well there's this so much
Speaker 3: on it, you know, I mean, they beat us in
Speaker 3: the playoffs and we beat them in the second week
Speaker 3: of of the season.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure two games makes a rivalry well now,
Speaker 2: my now, my sound's cutting out. Well, your equipment ain't
Speaker 2: great today.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'll tell you what it was.
Speaker 2: Did you leave it out in the rain.
Speaker 3: No, I don't. I touched something and I can't figure
Speaker 3: out what I touched. Sometime again, earlier, I was trying
Speaker 3: to work on a system and I must have touched it.
Speaker 3: So it's like a mixed minus or something. But it's
Speaker 3: it's very confused.
Speaker 2: Just make sure it's it's working when I when I'm
Speaker 2: about to say something funny, I just.
Speaker 3: Hope it keeps you. Oh, I figured out why you
Speaker 3: didn't hear the drum thing. I think I figured that out.
Speaker 3: Let me try this now. Yeah, okay, there you go.
Speaker 3: So but you just didn't have a I did.
Speaker 2: You don't have a duck sound?
Speaker 3: You need to add, don't. I don't like that. Oh
Speaker 3: that's when you say something not funny. That was called crickets. Yeah. See,
Speaker 3: I was trying to load. I wanted to load some
Speaker 3: things in here so I could play them when we talk,
Speaker 3: and somehow I messed up this whole thing and saw.
Speaker 4: I just got so frustrated yesterday with it. I just said, three,
Speaker 4: your hands up in the air. I did, I said,
Speaker 4: just stalked away. We'll just deal with it in the offseason.
Speaker 4: I'll figure out all these really cool things and we.
Speaker 3: Can go from Oh.
Speaker 2: By the way, Baker Mayfield is the NFC Offensive Player
Speaker 2: of the Week for the second time in the last
Speaker 2: three weeks and the sixth time in his career. He
Speaker 2: tied Brad Johnson with three of those as a buck,
Speaker 2: which is the most for a quarterback in history. He
Speaker 2: had one last year if you recall the perfect game
Speaker 2: in Green Bay, but two of the last three, dude,
Speaker 2: I know. So he goes in this game, he goes
Speaker 2: twenty seven of thirty two for three hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: nine yards, five touchdowns, no interceptions, one hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: three passer rating. And you know, the immediate and obvious
Speaker 2: note I used it to everybody used it is that
Speaker 2: he had as many touchdowns as in completions in that game. Wow,
Speaker 2: which is incredible.
Speaker 3: He had his many touchdowns in that game as he
Speaker 3: threw in completions, five of as the Cleveland quarterback who
Speaker 3: they spent all that money on had in a season
Speaker 3: this season.
Speaker 2: Five That's more than Trent Dilfer had in nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 3: Five. How manny Trent yet four? I think four?
Speaker 2: It was like it was his first full season as
Speaker 2: a starter. So you know, by nineteen ninety seven he
Speaker 2: made the Pro Bowl. So I'm not trying to you know, no,
Speaker 2: I know, it is just how he started on Trent Dilfer. No,
Speaker 2: it's just a fact, right that. So he was drafted
Speaker 2: in ninety four, only started a couple of games, but
Speaker 2: he started all sixteen in nineteen ninety five and through
Speaker 2: four interceptions and four touchdowns and eighteen interceptions in sixteen.
Speaker 2: That has a lot to do with not only Trent,
Speaker 2: but the whole offense back then.
Speaker 3: There's it was. It was a mess.
Speaker 2: It was a The passing game was a mess. We
Speaker 2: could run the ball a little bit. Yeah, that wasn't
Speaker 2: great anyway. That we don't even digress into that. What
Speaker 2: I thought the most interesting stat coming out of that
Speaker 2: game for Baker was that all five of his touchdowns
Speaker 2: came against Blitzes. He was you're out again, No, I'm here,
Speaker 2: you're out for a moment. I saw your lips moving
Speaker 2: near the words.
Speaker 3: I was throwing my voice and you didn't catch it.
Speaker 2: You threw it the other direction. That's why I didn't
Speaker 2: hear it. He completed all twelve of the passes on
Speaker 2: which he was blitzed.
Speaker 3: It's pretty great. It's awesome. Uh yeah, so it helped
Speaker 3: go ahead, No, you go well, I was just gonna say, yeah,
Speaker 3: he was picking up the blitz and which made me
Speaker 3: think about we had five sacks this game. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: that was good to see. During Todd's radio show, he
Speaker 3: made a comment about Shaq Barrett has been signed. Is
Speaker 3: it a coincidence that all of a sudden we have
Speaker 3: five sacks. Yeah.
Speaker 2: They all wanted to look good in front of the
Speaker 2: sack king.
Speaker 3: They wanted to keep Are they that? Or they wanted
Speaker 3: to keep your job? So there's that too.
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see if and if he plays
Speaker 2: this week. Obviously he wasn't going to play one day
Speaker 2: after signing.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: If he apparently is actually in pretty good shape, has
Speaker 2: been working out a lot, be interesting to see if
Speaker 2: he's got any kind of spark left.
Speaker 3: He could be the kind of guy that you put
Speaker 3: him in those situations, you know, maybe twelve plays that
Speaker 3: you know you really need something special to happen. I mean,
Speaker 3: I could see that happening kind of ease him in
Speaker 3: this game, limited number of plays to get kind of
Speaker 3: in football shape and then be ready if we make
Speaker 3: that playoff run. Yeah, it would be cool.
Speaker 2: But anyway, all five sacks, like you said, all five,
Speaker 2: we have to get back to Baker by the way. Okay,
Speaker 2: all five by five different players. But what was noteworthy
Speaker 2: is that those five players were all members of the
Speaker 2: defensive front. It wasn't from blitzing. It wasn't a dB
Speaker 2: or a cornerback. It wasn't Todd having to dial up
Speaker 2: some crazy blitzes to get pressure. Yeah, yeah, I got one.
Speaker 2: Kaleidjah got one, Anthony Nelson got one.
Speaker 3: Did Logan Hall have one?
Speaker 2: I think Logan Hall had one.
Speaker 3: Brus and braswell, and he and he was so Braswell
Speaker 3: was so close a number of times, and he finally
Speaker 3: got it, the.
Speaker 2: One where he got the sack and the strip. I watch,
Speaker 2: I just happened to see him. I watch him on
Speaker 2: both of those plays, the one right before it and
Speaker 2: that one, and they looked almost identical. The way he
Speaker 2: took on the tackle, the way he got around him
Speaker 2: a little bit on the edge and powered through. They
Speaker 2: this they looked like an instant replay of each other,
Speaker 2: except he just got there just in time on the
Speaker 2: second one. First one, maybe the maybe the ball was
Speaker 2: held just a little too long. So thanks for the coverage,
Speaker 2: but sure, Yeah, those are good. It's good to see
Speaker 2: some production from him. And when you think about that game,
Speaker 2: think about the rookies. Bucky has one hundred nine yards
Speaker 2: for scrimmage. Yeah, Jalen McMillan catches two touchdowns.
Speaker 3: Boy, he's hot, all of a sudden six and four.
Speaker 2: Graham Barton, I haven't seen grades, but I gotta believe
Speaker 2: if you have five hundred and fifty one.
Speaker 3: Yards, you're doing something right. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh braswell with the sack Devin Culp the tight end,
Speaker 2: he gets his first shot to play and and you
Speaker 2: had a nice game. He was drafted even though like
Speaker 2: he caught I think eighteen passes in his last season
Speaker 2: at Washington, so you're like, what's going on here? But
Speaker 2: they liked his He's fast for a tight end, he's
Speaker 2: still big. He's big and he's athletic, and so they
Speaker 2: thought he could make some explosive plays. And his first
Speaker 2: two catchers were twenty six and seventeen yards, So it's
Speaker 2: kind of proof of concept right there. Anyway, that's a lot. Oh,
Speaker 2: I didn't mean Tyke Smith. I can't remember any specific
Speaker 2: big plays, but he played like ninety five percent snaps
Speaker 2: in the slot. So it was a lot of contributions
Speaker 2: from your rookies. And if Todd Bowles was with us
Speaker 2: in this conversation, he would say, well, they're not rookies anymore. No,
Speaker 2: by the end of your first year, you're not really
Speaker 2: a rookie.
Speaker 3: No. But the fact of the matter is how much
Speaker 3: they've had to play. I think it's accelerated their talents,
Speaker 3: or at least it has shown their team. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely, throw them into the fire and they
Speaker 2: go through some lumps, probably, but for the end.
Speaker 3: Which gets you excited for not only this year, but
Speaker 3: a few years down the road because you have all
Speaker 3: these guys underneath rookie contracts and you can afford to
Speaker 3: have them.
Speaker 2: So have you heard recent Just just last night, I
Speaker 2: think it was I heard talk of people saying, shouldn't
Speaker 2: Sam Donald be included in the MVP conversation?
Speaker 3: I would think I would say so.
Speaker 2: And and one person in particular, I think this was
Speaker 2: on a podcast, said, set aside any preconceived notion you
Speaker 2: have for Sam Donald and and and just look at
Speaker 2: what he's done and you're out again and he and
Speaker 2: just don't think about the fact that you think he
Speaker 2: was a bust and this is a fluke. Just look
Speaker 2: at what he's done this year. So let me read
Speaker 2: you these numbers here, seventy one point seven percent completion rate,
Speaker 2: four and seventy nine yards passing, thirty nine touchdowns, a
Speaker 2: passer rating of one oh seven point six. I mean,
Speaker 2: should that get Sam Donald in the MVP conversation?
Speaker 3: I would I would say, yes, Well.
Speaker 2: Those aren't Sam Donald's numbers. Whose are they Baker Mayfield?
Speaker 2: Of course they are Baker Mayfield. The thirty nine touchdowns
Speaker 2: should have thrown you off. Baker is I'm not saying
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 3: Is the end? Would it be because of wins and losses?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but we are. It's we're probably gonna make
Speaker 2: there's a good chance we make the playoffs, and you know,
Speaker 2: and we'll be a division winner. So I don't think
Speaker 2: that would ding Baker too much. Baker has a better
Speaker 2: passer rating than Donald, more yards than Donald, more touchdowns
Speaker 2: than Donald, a better completion percentage than Donald, and Sam
Speaker 2: Donald's been great. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3: I think I think you would have a better argument
Speaker 3: if it was last year, because Baker did so well
Speaker 3: last year that it's you kind of because he did
Speaker 3: so well and then got a big contract where Donald
Speaker 3: is was a backup, backup the third basically.
Speaker 2: Then call him the comeback player of the Year.
Speaker 3: No, I like what you're saying.
Speaker 2: The only point I'm trying to make is I don't
Speaker 2: think anybody seriously thinks Sam Donald's MVP. It's it seems
Speaker 2: like it's been Josh Allens the lou for a while.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson's coming on so strong that there could be
Speaker 2: some split vote there, but I would imagine it'll be
Speaker 2: one of those two. But if you're gonna start talking
Speaker 2: and saying forget about what your preconceived notions were of
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold and just look at what he's done, then
Speaker 2: you have to do the same thing with Baker.
Speaker 3: You have to.
Speaker 2: And Baker's numbers are actually better than Sam Donald's. And
Speaker 2: you said we'll look at the win lost record, Well,
Speaker 2: just by the numbers. Look at Minnesot's defense. Minnisot's defense
Speaker 2: has been very good. The Bucks defense, and partially because
Speaker 2: of injuries, has really been up and down. It was
Speaker 2: pretty good this past week. It wasn't great in Dallas.
Speaker 2: It's had some good games. Has had to work through
Speaker 2: a lot of injuries, especially in the secondary, and that's.
Speaker 3: Not easy gig play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've had that at times. We've had third down issues.
Speaker 2: Not last week. So and I can't keep us on
Speaker 2: one train. I mean, it's like every time we come
Speaker 2: to a fourk in the track because I go another way.
Speaker 2: But I just wanted to say real quick that the
Speaker 2: Buccaneers run defense is back to being the best in
Speaker 2: the league. It's not the best in the league. It's
Speaker 2: not number one right now because it didn't you know,
Speaker 2: we were kind of languishing in the middle. But the
Speaker 2: last three games and really overall since coming out of
Speaker 2: the by but the last three games, the Buccaneers have
Speaker 2: given up less than forty rushing yards to three straight teams.
Speaker 2: That's only been done one other time by Baltimore in
Speaker 2: something like two thousand and six. I mean, that's pretty impressive,
Speaker 2: very impressive. So the run defense has been fantastic. Anyway,
Speaker 2: going back Baker Mayfield, maybe you know, Baker Mayfield has
Speaker 2: done this with out Chris Godwin for the better part
Speaker 2: of the season and has done it with guys you
Speaker 2: wouldn't have expected at the beginning of the season, like
Speaker 2: Ryan Miller he had some catches in the last game,
Speaker 2: or Kim Jarrett, Devin Culp, Payne Durham. These are not
Speaker 2: household names. No Sterling Shepard before he got hurt. You know,
Speaker 2: Minnesota right off the bat starts with Justin Jefferson, probably
Speaker 2: the best receiver in the league, Dan Adison, who's really good,
Speaker 2: and TJ. Hockinson. I mean, that's where you're starting, be sure.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: I maybe you could say, and I probably would, that
Speaker 2: our offensive line is better than theirs. I think that's
Speaker 2: one of the hidden secrets of the NFL, because people
Speaker 2: reflexively and for good reasons, say Detroit has the best
Speaker 2: offensive line, and Philadelphia has a great offensive line, and
Speaker 2: the Chargers have are the makings the beginnings of great
Speaker 2: offensive line. I don't hear that about the Bucks much,
Speaker 2: but I think the Bucks offensive line is probably top five,
Speaker 2: if not top three, in the NFL right now.
Speaker 3: It has certainly improved over the last year.
Speaker 2: You're getting all pro level play from Tristan Morrison left Tuckle.
Speaker 3: You're getting which, by the way, whenever they throw a
Speaker 3: flag on Tristan, I just want to say, you don't
Speaker 3: believe put that in your pocket. There's no way he
Speaker 3: did that Pro Bowl.
Speaker 2: Level play from everybody I've heard from on the inside,
Speaker 2: from Luke Ketticky massively improved play in his second year,
Speaker 2: from Cody Mauk at right guard, and the rookie center
Speaker 2: Graham Barton already looks like one of the better centers
Speaker 2: in the league. And Ben Bredeson has been good as well.
Speaker 2: But the rest of those guys are all homegrown, and
Speaker 2: I just think it's probably and maybe it's good, you know,
Speaker 2: stay under the radar as much as possible. And I
Speaker 2: thought the Bucks offensive line is having any.
Speaker 3: Proper to the coach. The offensive line coaches that Vin.
Speaker 3: They came in this year, and whenever the old linemen
Speaker 3: are talking, they're always talking about how they like the
Speaker 3: different schemes. Yeah, there's different you know, polls, there's they
Speaker 3: it's it's just not I don't know if it was
Speaker 3: vanilla before or not, but however it's being taught or changed,
Speaker 3: they like how it the way it is great.
Speaker 2: I don't know what we did the year before Canalis,
Speaker 2: but under Canals we did mostly mid and wide zone,
Speaker 2: and I would say the majority of our plays now,
Speaker 2: our gap scheme plays, which is like the one I
Speaker 2: was describing with Bucky Irving before. It often has a
Speaker 2: pulling guard and it really kind of defines the running
Speaker 2: lane for the running back. In mid and wide zone,
Speaker 2: you have to decide when to cut up field. You're
Speaker 2: kind of going to horizontal and then you know the
Speaker 2: linemen are moving and it's zone blocking. The where the
Speaker 2: gap stuff, I think is what has produced are most
Speaker 2: of our big plays. They they tend to for Bucky.
Speaker 2: They tend to create a pretty good lane for him
Speaker 2: that he hits really fast and often though there's gonna
Speaker 2: be a one free defender in that lane, and that's
Speaker 2: the guy that Bucky has to make miss to get
Speaker 2: the explosive plays, and he's very So it's really the
Speaker 2: scheme has worked out and it's been multiple as Liam
Speaker 2: Cohen said it would be when he got here in
Speaker 2: the off season. He says, we're gonna do a lot
Speaker 2: of different things. We're not just gonna be a zone team.
Speaker 2: We're not just gonna be a gap screen team or
Speaker 2: a duo team. We're gonna use a lot and apparently
Speaker 2: I'm not an expert on this, but in the Dallas game,
Speaker 2: which we I also had good rushing yards, it was
Speaker 2: a lot more of man to man blocking, which I
Speaker 2: think has something to do with the presence of Michael Parsons.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and what are the comments that I kept hearing
Speaker 3: after this game and it's and it's been kind of
Speaker 3: a pattern throughout this season, is how much fun this
Speaker 3: offense is to watch. Yeah, no matter what, no matter
Speaker 3: how the outcome of the game is, it's a fun
Speaker 3: team to watch.
Speaker 2: I think my favorite part about it is my favorite
Speaker 2: thing that a play caller does is continue to build
Speaker 2: on what you've done before and do something that looks
Speaker 2: on something you've put on tape before, but it turns
Speaker 2: out to be something different. I think Liam from a
Speaker 2: game to game basis, is masterful at that that That's.
Speaker 3: What the old line guys were saying, is that it
Speaker 3: looks you there's you look at it and you think
Speaker 3: it's going to be this play and Okay, we're ready
Speaker 3: to go, and there's a different variation to it, and
Speaker 3: it's and it's and it's working and you have to
Speaker 3: be on your toes. It's it's making defenses try to
Speaker 3: figure out what you're doing, and they're now guessing what
Speaker 3: they think it is rather than they know what it is.
Speaker 2: I love it when it plays on a tendency that
Speaker 2: you you have had and that the defense will truly
Speaker 2: have picked up on. And my example would be the
Speaker 2: first Mike Evans touchdown.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 2: I loved that play call. I loved the play design.
Speaker 2: It was clearly meant to look like his patented fade
Speaker 2: where he takes just a couple steps in the end
Speaker 2: zone and then it cuts out and Baker lobs it,
Speaker 2: tries to get over the defender and he catches it
Speaker 2: by the silent. He comes up and takes a little
Speaker 2: jab step out and if I were the defender, one
Speaker 2: hundred percent would have thought I got to.
Speaker 3: Stop his fade.
Speaker 2: But then he cuts back diagonally towards the middle in
Speaker 2: the back of the end zone and gets wide open
Speaker 2: because of what that defender was expecting. I loved that call,
Speaker 2: and I think I've seen that kind of thing from
Speaker 2: Liam Cohen a lot.
Speaker 3: This season of Mike Evans. We haven't even talked. I know,
Speaker 3: we haven't even got into Mike, which is kind of
Speaker 3: crazy where that's how much happened in that game. Well,
Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying, which is crazy because you always
Speaker 3: start a buccaneer game and you say Mike Evan, Yes,
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just what you do. And we haven't
Speaker 3: even where forty four minutes are now forty five minutes
Speaker 3: into this podcast, and we did not bring Mike Evans
Speaker 3: up until now, and so should we talk about him now?
Speaker 3: I think this is a good time to bring it up.
Speaker 3: We got eighty four yards.
Speaker 2: And he's eighty five more yards to get to one thousand.
Speaker 3: It.
Speaker 2: I know it wouldn't have been the sporting thing to do,
Speaker 2: but when we were up so big in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 2: I was thinking throw. I was just like, just throw
Speaker 2: every past to Mike. Just throw them, throw them little
Speaker 2: quick hitches and you know, maybe you get five yards,
Speaker 2: maybe he spins out of a tackle and gets fifteen,
Speaker 2: but every little bit'll help heading until it now.
Speaker 3: There is definitely a respect factor going on between Todd
Speaker 3: and Dave Canalis, and I will say my thinking is
Speaker 3: the game is totally out of control. We bring in
Speaker 3: our some backups and Dave Canalis tip of the hat, buddy,
Speaker 3: you did not call timeouts. I have seen it so
Speaker 3: many times where the coach is calling timeouts and you're going,
Speaker 3: this game really can't win your why are you calling?
Speaker 3: All you're doing is what are you doing? And so
Speaker 3: props to Dave Canalis of saying, you guys kicked us
Speaker 3: no timeouts.
Speaker 2: When we got that ball back for the last time
Speaker 2: after they failed on fourth down. It was eleven straight
Speaker 2: run plays if you count the three kneel downs at
Speaker 2: the end, and you could have kicked a field goal
Speaker 2: to score there. Yeah, because another touchdown would have tied
Speaker 2: our most points in the game ever from that Rams
Speaker 2: game nineteen.
Speaker 3: I think. Yeah. But see that's what that's the part.
Speaker 3: I like. That's the sportsmanship. I like where you get
Speaker 3: to that point and say.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I was just hoping that it would happen
Speaker 2: like accidentally accidentally. No no, no, no, no, that we
Speaker 2: get a touchdown, that we get another touch on like
Speaker 2: they're trying, they're selling out to stop Shan and Tucker
Speaker 2: and he.
Speaker 3: Breaks I see, I see, I see, it's a run play.
Speaker 3: It's it's just breaks free. They might as well go
Speaker 3: to well, sure, yeah, if that's the case, then you do. Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think we could have looked classy throwing
Speaker 2: the ball five straight times to Mike.
Speaker 3: And Mike would not want the record that way. I
Speaker 3: don't know about that really.
Speaker 2: If I were Mike, I'd take it. Nobody's going to
Speaker 2: remember five years from now that in the second to
Speaker 2: last game of the eleventh season in that street.
Speaker 3: But everybody remembers Michael Strahan getting the record breaking, That's true.
Speaker 3: Everybody remembers Brett Favre flopping like a fish, which he did.
Speaker 2: He did, didn't somebody, Well, somebody got mad. Oh, oh,
Speaker 2: it was guessing, right, didn't guess? No, see Farv recently
Speaker 2: and yell at him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was his record.
Speaker 2: So Mark Gestino of the Jets had the record until
Speaker 2: Michael Strahan broke it. And on the very last one
Speaker 2: in Green Bay, it really Brett Favre takes the ball
Speaker 2: and starts running towards around the end and as Michael
Speaker 2: Strand's coming up, he just slides to a stop so
Speaker 2: that all Michael has to do is touch him, and
Speaker 2: it's considered a sack. And uh, you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know if he'll ever admit that he did that on purpose.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he has, but it was pretty clear.
Speaker 3: So that's why I don't think Mike would want that.
Speaker 3: That is a little bit different. Well, no, I understand that.
Speaker 2: The oppositions not trying to help you get there, And no,
Speaker 2: that would be cool if you know, they call a
Speaker 2: time out and Dave Canos comes over to Todd and says,
Speaker 2: just strot to Micro, let him run the rest of
Speaker 2: the way.
Speaker 3: We're going to give you one play, but it has
Speaker 3: to be to Mic.
Speaker 2: Now, that would probably not be good for Dave Canals's job.
Speaker 3: Todd was talking about, you know, everyone's aware, and Todd
Speaker 3: Todd Bowles was talking about it on his radio show
Speaker 3: about everybody aware Mike Evans, but they can't just focus
Speaker 3: their game plan on that, and would they like to
Speaker 3: see Mike get it? Yes, But more importantly, they want
Speaker 3: to win the game, so they're going to call the
Speaker 3: plays that they think that they can score touchdowns with
Speaker 3: and to win the game.
Speaker 2: The only thing I would say is so needs eighty
Speaker 2: five right, let's say.
Speaker 3: Well that's what you say. Yes, I don't, I don't
Speaker 3: it is I was trying to figure out the math before.
Speaker 2: But he has nine hundred and fifteen, so he needs
Speaker 2: eighty five more Okay, Just there's no way anybody's listening
Speaker 2: doesn't know what we're talking about.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, just he has clarify. I always remember that
Speaker 3: because you know the answer, your audience may not know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but our audience pretty presumably would all be pretty
Speaker 2: big bucks fans, right, Okay. Mike Evans, drafted in twenty fourteen,
Speaker 2: has surpassed one thousand receiving yards in each of his
Speaker 2: first ten seasons, which is already a record by a
Speaker 2: long shot, because the previous was six for most such
Speaker 2: seasons to begin a player's career, and Jerry Rice has
Speaker 2: the most overall at fourteen. But Jerry Rice also has
Speaker 2: the most in a row at any point in the
Speaker 2: career at eleven. So Mike would tie Jerry Rice for
Speaker 2: the most consecutive thousand year receiving seasons in NFL history, which.
Speaker 3: Is really cool, very cool.
Speaker 2: That would be great, and everybody wants him to get
Speaker 2: him what. I agree with what you're saying and what
Speaker 2: coach said. It can't be the primary goal, but what
Speaker 2: if it was. It's the fourth quarter and cross your fingers,
Speaker 2: knocking on wood. We're beaten New Orleans by double digits
Speaker 2: at this point, which would be great, and I say,
Speaker 2: he just throw to Mic. Yeah, and he's got seventy
Speaker 2: six yards and he needs a Now you make a
Speaker 2: point of calling a play or two for him, right, Well, it's.
Speaker 3: Kind of like Tom Brady making sure that Gronk got
Speaker 3: his million dollar bonus on a catch. Right, Remember that
Speaker 3: he made sure he made sure he got it.
Speaker 2: So remember the one where Mike caught the pass to
Speaker 2: put him over a thousand. But I got hurt on
Speaker 2: the play, or maybe it was got hurt on the
Speaker 2: next player or something, and had and it was against
Speaker 2: the land I think, And he missed the second half but.
Speaker 3: Still had the records. He had just gotten it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was. I kind of thought he was going to
Speaker 3: have a big game against the Panthers. I think that
Speaker 3: had the score not gotten so far ahead, he probably
Speaker 3: he probably would have had more catches. But at that point,
Speaker 3: what are you going to do? You just kind of
Speaker 3: go with it. So now we're down to the last
Speaker 3: game of the season. Eighty five yards and if he's
Speaker 3: going to be counting.
Speaker 2: And he extended his record streak of eleven straight seasons
Speaker 2: to start a career with sixty plus catches, he has
Speaker 2: now at one hundred and five touchdown receptions, which is
Speaker 2: getting him close. He's in ninth place all time, and
Speaker 2: he's getting close to Tony Gonzalez in eighth place.
Speaker 3: Uhw Yeah, it's I.
Speaker 2: Mean it's funny if you look at our all time
Speaker 2: receiving chart and you see you look down the touchdown
Speaker 2: comb you see Mike with one o five. I think
Speaker 2: the next three players on the list add up to
Speaker 2: about one oh five. I mean, he's so far He's
Speaker 2: lapped the field like three times.
Speaker 3: Wow. I you know what Mike's been around. I mean
Speaker 3: we've been with Mike since he's been here, of course obviously,
Speaker 3: but what he does is just so much. It's I
Speaker 3: don't want to say it's not impressive, because it's very
Speaker 3: very impressive, but it is so Mike like that you
Speaker 3: you kind of get immune to it. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: he makes this almost had that one handed catch.
Speaker 2: I know he well, what happened is he was turning around,
Speaker 2: didn't know the ball was already on the way, and
Speaker 2: so all he could do was get one hand out there, and.
Speaker 3: He did a great job of almost getting it, which
Speaker 3: would have been awesome.
Speaker 2: You know, I have two plays that I want to
Speaker 2: talk about.
Speaker 3: Mike.
Speaker 2: So on the one drive that didn't work near the
Speaker 2: end of the first half, it's like third and nineteen
Speaker 2: or something like that. Baker's under duress, he's scrambling, he's
Speaker 2: scrambling forward, and he knows he needs to get rid
Speaker 2: of the ball pretty quick, and so he sees Devin
Speaker 2: Colp kind of open in front of him and gets
Speaker 2: it to him real quick. And then Devin's tackle three
Speaker 2: yards shorts, so we have to punt. Mike Evans was
Speaker 2: so open on them play it wasn't even funny. And
Speaker 2: it's not Baker's fault.
Speaker 3: He had to get rid of all.
Speaker 2: Had he managed a glimpse, Mike, he could have just
Speaker 2: lobbed it. It would have been about a twenty yard pass.
Speaker 2: I think Mike go's sixty yards. There's nobody in the picture.
Speaker 2: He's all I don't know how he gets all alone
Speaker 2: like that. He's all alone. And so if that had happened,
Speaker 2: he'd have like fifty more yards right now. Wow, I'm
Speaker 2: not blaming Baker. No, no, I'm not saying you should
Speaker 2: have seen him, had seen.
Speaker 3: You know they're looking at that tape and you know
Speaker 3: they're rasing them. You know, hit me what you missed.
Speaker 2: And then on Payne Durham's thirty one yard catch that
Speaker 2: on the first drive that set up Mike's touchdown, did
Speaker 2: you see the freaking personnel formation on that play. Let
Speaker 2: me describe who was on the field.
Speaker 3: Let's see who's on the field.
Speaker 2: I mean the offensive lineman in the quarterback, but the
Speaker 2: five other guys split out in the backfield. It didn't
Speaker 2: mean split out in the backfield was Jaylen McMillan, Jayleen
Speaker 2: mill Is behind Baker in the backfield split out wide
Speaker 2: to the left was uh Rashod White. In the slot
Speaker 2: to the left was Devin was Coke Keeft and out
Speaker 2: wide to the right was Devin Culp and Payne Durham
Speaker 2: was in line was the in line tied end and
Speaker 2: he's the one who there getting the ball. What a
Speaker 2: crazy combination player. If you look at that, there's no
Speaker 2: way the defense Stills was coming at that point. There
Speaker 2: you go, and they probably because they saw so you
Speaker 2: know how it works when when you have coaches that
Speaker 2: are designated to watch the other team substituting players, and
Speaker 2: if they throw in this package of players and this
Speaker 2: man receivers, then you counter with this package right. So
Speaker 2: the Buccaneers, I just said, they had three tight ends
Speaker 2: on the field, and so that's probably gonna the other
Speaker 2: team is likely to do it, and they're not. They
Speaker 2: come into the huddle, right, they're information the other team
Speaker 2: is going to probably counter with a bigger formation and
Speaker 2: not an extra dB or anything. And and then you
Speaker 2: come out of this with one tight end who never
Speaker 2: catches the ball out in the slot, another one who's
Speaker 2: just had his first couple careers or hasn't had yet
Speaker 2: his first couple of career receptions out wide, a wide
Speaker 2: receiver in the backfield, and a running back split out wide.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's crazy, That's what we were talking about.
Speaker 2: They don't There's so many combinations he's got going and
Speaker 2: definitely using all the personnel, which I think thing makes
Speaker 2: which is fun because it makes everyone realize that they
Speaker 2: have to do their job. They're not you know, they're
Speaker 2: just not there.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's not the same guys
Speaker 3: over and over again. So if you're a backup, you
Speaker 3: you better be prepared because you could go in at
Speaker 3: any time. And I like that. I think that's what's
Speaker 3: making this team fun.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of things that are making fun, you
Speaker 2: know what. It was actually pretty enjoyable too. In that
Speaker 2: game is weirdly like in the first quarter, we kept
Speaker 2: getting unexpectedly good news from the referees. Yeah, like there'd
Speaker 2: be a flag thrown and in this scenario where you
Speaker 2: think it's gonna be like holding, right, and then they
Speaker 2: come and go, it's hands the face on defensive or
Speaker 2: then there is no foul on the play because it
Speaker 2: was a run. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I always I always when they throw the flag and
Speaker 3: then they say there was no foul, I always go,
Speaker 3: why did you throw it? And then I guess because
Speaker 3: they may not have seen the reason why, Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: not a penalty.
Speaker 2: One of the other refs doesn't wait because the second
Speaker 2: one is talking about there was a little swing past
Speaker 2: a Bucky, but the pass actually went backward, so that's
Speaker 2: technically a pitch and it's it's a run.
Speaker 3: Right, And Baker was Baker was He was up at
Speaker 3: the referee going.
Speaker 2: Yeah he was no, Yeah, he was telling him something.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that's what he was, but that's what
Speaker 3: he was telling him.
Speaker 2: And and so what they would have called I think
Speaker 2: it was a defensive holding or downfield. You can't get
Speaker 2: that if it's a running play. So it was offensive holding,
Speaker 2: offensive holding, yeah, or illegal content right because somebody was
Speaker 2: already blocking downfield. I think it was Ryan Miller was
Speaker 2: already blocking down field. But you can do that on
Speaker 2: a running play. So that was pretty good. There was
Speaker 2: like four times when the refs when a flag was
Speaker 2: shown and I thought it was gonna be bad news
Speaker 2: for us, and then it wasn't.
Speaker 3: Well, it was a much cleaner game. How many penalties
Speaker 3: did we have the whole game? I thought it was okay,
Speaker 3: so and they had four and the Dallas game we
Speaker 3: had a lot more than five, I believe. Yeah, So
Speaker 3: that's the good news of cleaning that up and that,
Speaker 3: you know, that seems to be the story line of
Speaker 3: this year is if the Buccaneers don't beat themselves, they
Speaker 3: have a good chance of beating anybody. And Todd's been
Speaker 3: preaching that all season long. Self inflicted wounds, you know,
Speaker 3: off sides holding, where you're backing up ten yards, it's
Speaker 3: hard to keep getting first downs. It kills the drives.
Speaker 3: So that was that's a that's a plus.
Speaker 2: I liked when we when we got knocked back by
Speaker 2: a sack and a penalty, because you're just talking about that, right,
Speaker 2: like one holding penalty often ends up killing.
Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah.
Speaker 2: But we had a holding penalty and a sack and
Speaker 2: we're in second and twenty eight and Baker converted it
Speaker 2: on two throws. One of them was Jadevian Clowney jumped
Speaker 2: off side and the flag landed and Baker knew he
Speaker 2: had a free play, so we decided to rip it
Speaker 2: downfield and he hit Ryan Miller for like twenty three yards.
Speaker 3: Yeah, deaths. Yeah that you don't have a whole lot
Speaker 3: of third down and twenty three plays in your book, So.
Speaker 2: No, it was it was second and twenty eight. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then twenty three yard play allowed them to put
Speaker 2: him in good position to convert. And we converted ten
Speaker 2: of our fourteen third downs in that game, and really
Speaker 2: ten to thirteen because the third the last one was
Speaker 2: just a kneel down that happened to be a third down.
Speaker 3: Yeah. That was a good game all the way across
Speaker 3: the board. And now now it's Yeah, since the bye week,
Speaker 3: it's just felt like and it has been playoff week,
Speaker 3: playoff week, playoff week. You got one more game to
Speaker 3: go ahead and secure the NFC South. What's at our
Speaker 3: fifth one fourth? One fourth in a row, fourth in
Speaker 3: a row.
Speaker 2: It would be kind of cool if we did it
Speaker 2: with a win over New Orleans because before these potential
Speaker 2: four in a row for us, they had won the
Speaker 2: previous four. Remember last year down to Carolina, same exact situation.
Speaker 2: New Orleans was playing Atlanta and we were playing Carolina.
Speaker 2: And if we lost in New Orleans one and New
Speaker 2: Orleans did end up winning pretty big, they would have
Speaker 2: won the division and we barely escaped with that nine
Speaker 2: to zero win, Right, So don't take anything for granted,
Speaker 2: and let me throw out this not so great note. Saints.
Speaker 2: On one hand, they're coming in here, a lot of
Speaker 2: guys got hurt. I kind of limp it in, right,
Speaker 2: But well, I'll get.
Speaker 3: To the buttons coming back or a possibility that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not where I was going with that. But
Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara and Chris l Lovey both want to play.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow's missed the last three or four of the grun
Speaker 2: injury and come and Lobby's been out since a kind
Speaker 2: of scary concussion, yeah, seven games ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Carr could come back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I would bet he doesn't but could
Speaker 2: be wrong. But they've lost four of their five since
Speaker 2: they came out of their bye week, and they have
Speaker 2: not scored more. Their scores are fourteen, fourteen, nineteen zero
Speaker 2: and ten. I mean, you can't really blame I haven't
Speaker 2: even got to the note I'm trying to get to yet,
Speaker 2: but it's hard to blame him when they're missing Derek Carr,
Speaker 2: Rashid Shaheed, Taysom Hill, Chris o'lave one other I can't oh,
Speaker 2: and Alvin Kamara.
Speaker 3: And by the way, they did a head coaching change
Speaker 3: early in the season, so that doesn't That never helps
Speaker 3: the team.
Speaker 2: Out, usually helps you for one or two weeks. I
Speaker 2: don't you know they won their first game under Rizzy
Speaker 2: the first two.
Speaker 3: I never understand why you get why you decide to
Speaker 3: move on a coach during the season. I I don't
Speaker 3: understand why just let it. I mean, are you getting
Speaker 3: a head start on talking to somebody.
Speaker 2: No, you can if it's a guy that's not currently
Speaker 2: a head coach, like example.
Speaker 3: But okay, so the Jets got rid of a head coach,
Speaker 3: rams or Saints moved on from their head coach, Chicago
Speaker 3: moved on from their head coach. There's been no high
Speaker 3: no one's hired.
Speaker 2: So yeah, they're not going to hire till after the season.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But they could still talk to some people if they're
Speaker 2: not currently head coaches, like Pete Carroll, like Rabel. But
Speaker 2: I don't think that's the main reason. Most of the time.
Speaker 2: I think it's you know, it's just the you know
Speaker 2: you're not you're going to fire the coach at the
Speaker 2: end of the year, and just things have turned so bad. Well,
Speaker 2: I mean, we need something to maybe give this team
Speaker 2: a new direction. Like the Saints. I mean, I think
Speaker 2: that Dennis Allen had lost that locker room.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, well then that's the gates. Then I gets.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's always the right move, but I
Speaker 2: don't think it's necessarily a terrible move anyway. That what
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get to is you look at a
Speaker 2: Saints team that's kind of limp it to the end,
Speaker 2: largely because of injuries, and you think, okay, well, that's
Speaker 2: a game the Bucks should win. You want to hear
Speaker 2: the stats, you want to hear the scores of the
Speaker 2: last five games of the last six times I should
Speaker 2: say that the Saints have come to Raymond James Dace.
Speaker 3: I think they're five and one right now at Raymond
Speaker 3: James Stadium.
Speaker 2: In the last six years of five and one trying
Speaker 2: to go there.
Speaker 3: I want to read you the scores.
Speaker 2: Which of the last the last six times that New
Speaker 2: Orleans has come to Raymond James steem and remember most
Speaker 2: of that time the Bucks have been pretty good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So the last six going in reverse chronological order. So
Speaker 2: starting in twenty twenty three, Saints win twenty three to thirteen.
Speaker 2: That's our only loss in the last five weeks of
Speaker 2: that season, by the way, right all right. In twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two, the Bucks did win, but only seventeen to sixteen.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one, Bucks lose nine to zero, and
Speaker 2: that was a really good Bucks team.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty, Bucks lose thirty eight to three. That's
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl winning team. In twenty nineteen, Bucks lose
Speaker 2: thirty four to seventeen. In twenty eighteen, Bucks lose twenty
Speaker 2: eight to fourteen. Those are the last six times that
Speaker 2: the Saints have come to Raymond James.
Speaker 3: Daum, that's not good.
Speaker 2: You have a one win and it was a one
Speaker 2: point win and most of the others were blowouts, wow,
Speaker 2: or just embarrassing games like that nine to NONHS.
Speaker 3: Well, it's it's a division rivalry game, so you just
Speaker 3: shoot it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't take anything for granted. This would be my
Speaker 2: main point.
Speaker 3: Here, which is really crazy because right now I looked
Speaker 3: at it yesterday. We were discussing this in the communication department.
Speaker 3: Right now, the bucks I think are fourteen point favorites,
Speaker 3: which is kind of scary. That's that's a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't understand that line at all.
Speaker 2: I don't know much about betting.
Speaker 3: Well I don't either, But I'm just saying is that
Speaker 3: I always kind of look at that just for curiosity sakes,
Speaker 3: but for whatever reason, let me see what it is today,
Speaker 3: see if I can find it.
Speaker 2: Do you want to hear the pun that my sister
Speaker 2: just sent me on It's her husband's name, Mike, she says,
Speaker 2: Ever since Mike and I got our waterbed, it feels
Speaker 2: like we are drifting apart.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's pretty good. That's hope they ride the wave.
Speaker 3: Let's see right now. Oh, thirteen point favorites right now,
Speaker 3: that's too high. I think it is too Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think it is too.
Speaker 2: We were only like eight and a half point favorite Atlanta.
Speaker 3: Atlanta is eight points favored over over the Panthers, So
Speaker 3: Panthers are going to give me a big upset? There.
Speaker 3: You did say you have been saying that. I don't
Speaker 3: know why I feel that way?
Speaker 2: How have your feelings gone this season?
Speaker 3: Not? Well?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Rams are or rather the Seahawks are favored in alright,
Speaker 3: I'm yeah, they're Seahawks are favored? Are five point favorites?
Speaker 3: Really over the Rams?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 3: What Yeah, it's some of the flattle minus five so
Speaker 3: that can't be right. Well, I'm looking at it.
Speaker 2: It's at l A too, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do they know any change?
Speaker 2: You're reading that wrong?
Speaker 3: Well, if you're if if if, if your team is
Speaker 3: a minus minus five, that means yeah you you you're
Speaker 3: favored by five, you're favored by five? Yeah, and if
Speaker 3: we I haven't.
Speaker 2: The only reason I look at batting lines each week
Speaker 2: is that that's one of the things included in my
Speaker 2: long game preview. So I hadn't looked at it yet,
Speaker 2: so I always always end.
Speaker 3: Wow, it's crazy as the Ravens are seventeen and a
Speaker 3: half point favorites over the Browns. That one makes sense
Speaker 3: to me. You say that you're gonna go Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: about right.
Speaker 2: So you were talking to Atlanta, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well Atlanta is uh no Rams Rams, Yeah, the Rams.
Speaker 2: Well this one says Seattle by three. Why do they
Speaker 2: think the Rams are gonna.
Speaker 3: Potentially say starters?
Speaker 2: Maybe they they could be either the three or the
Speaker 2: four seed. So they're already in and they can't win.
Speaker 2: That's what it is to lose.
Speaker 3: The division, right, and this is it. You're hitting the
Speaker 3: nail on the head because the Chiefs over the Broncos.
Speaker 3: Right now, Denver is nine and a half point favorites
Speaker 3: against the Chiefs. Wow, that's because the Chiefs are the
Speaker 3: number one seed, locked it up and they're probably gonna
Speaker 3: sit everybody. Wow. I don't know about that.
Speaker 2: I know I kind of wish I could gamble on
Speaker 2: games because it feels like easy money.
Speaker 3: Right. Well, yeah, I mean that's kind of I mean, seriously,
Speaker 3: that is that. I find it interesting when you get
Speaker 3: into the last week.
Speaker 2: You know, I wonder, I wonder if these lines change
Speaker 2: dramatically at the end of the week, because there could
Speaker 2: be more information and if the Rams said we're playing
Speaker 2: our stars. The Lions played all their starters if if
Speaker 2: the Rams, if McVeigh comes out at the end of
Speaker 2: the week, it says we're going to play all our starters.
Speaker 3: The line changes with the money, but they.
Speaker 2: Also if there's something big shift, like if if Patrick
Speaker 2: Mahomes you know, broke his leg gets sorry to share
Speaker 2: that speak the world during during practice one week the
Speaker 2: Vegas who I don't know who, the book makers, they
Speaker 2: would they would immediately move that line. But you're right, yes,
Speaker 2: if there's a lot of betting on one side, then
Speaker 2: that the money, which means.
Speaker 3: The house sets the house sets the line. The money
Speaker 3: moves a lot.
Speaker 2: See this is a good reason. I mean it's good
Speaker 2: that I can't.
Speaker 3: No, I don't either.
Speaker 2: I would be I think I would be terrible at it.
Speaker 2: I think it's confusing, Yes, but it sounds like if
Speaker 2: you wanted to bet the Rams, you should do it
Speaker 2: now right, Uh, while you have that three point or
Speaker 2: wherever you're looking at five this one, this one's a
Speaker 2: Seattle by three.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, and it also depends on what this is
Speaker 3: where it gets crazy too. It also depends on what
Speaker 3: sports book you're okay, right, you know, all the different ones.
Speaker 2: I'm just looking on the CBS Sports I don't know which.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which one. I was looking at ESPN. But you know,
Speaker 3: you can go to draft.
Speaker 2: Looks like they use something called sports line. I don't
Speaker 2: even know what that is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there are tons of them. They're everywhere. It's
Speaker 3: just the world we live right now. All right, you
Speaker 3: got more on that cheet of paper.
Speaker 2: I mean, how long have we gone?
Speaker 3: An hour and seven minutes, So we need to wrap
Speaker 3: up pretty soon, right well, up to you what you
Speaker 3: got we you know you've got and stuff. I'm not
Speaker 3: I'm not cutting you off. You know, people want to know, Scott. I.
Speaker 2: I have just various notes here that we maybe haven't
Speaker 2: hit yet.
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 4: I have.
Speaker 2: I have continued to not watch Chase's field goals. Remember
Speaker 2: I was talking about that a week or two ago.
Speaker 2: There's no good reason for it. He makes them, all right,
Speaker 2: But I a couple of weeks ago, I just I
Speaker 2: just started getting uneasy because I'm thinking, I guess it's
Speaker 2: just the thought that he's got to miss eventually, and
Speaker 2: I hope it's not at a key moment he doesn't
Speaker 2: have to miss eventually. By the way, I don't think
Speaker 2: he's missed from inside fifty this year. Yes, I'm not going.
Speaker 2: We decided before we could talk about the kicker during
Speaker 2: the week, just not during the game. And it hasn't
Speaker 2: messed anything up yet, you and I. Yes, uh so
Speaker 2: I so I've just decided. Now since I'm not watching,
Speaker 2: he keeps making them, I have to I have to
Speaker 2: keep not watching.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 2: So now I'm doing it for superstitious reasons.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, but in case it works, you know, don't watch.
Speaker 3: So what do you do? Put your head down, turn around?
Speaker 2: No, I just look away.
Speaker 3: Okay, I just look away.
Speaker 2: I mean the couple of weeks ago in Los Angeles,
Speaker 2: I was kind of shielding my eyes and then you
Speaker 2: just listen. It's easy at home because they'll set off
Speaker 2: the cannons. Even if the crowd doesn't have a big
Speaker 2: sure reaction, they'll set off the cannons.
Speaker 3: So then you know, yeah, yeah, you can you anymore?
Speaker 3: You just don't know.
Speaker 2: But I think I have a new favorite trick play
Speaker 2: that's not a not a crazy trick play.
Speaker 3: But one that choosed not relatively often.
Speaker 2: But you know it right away what it is because
Speaker 2: I used to say you should run the flea flicker
Speaker 2: a couple times a year because it usually works. I
Speaker 2: feel like the flea flicker is hardly working anymore. I
Speaker 2: think it's fooling anybody. The hooking ladder. Did you see
Speaker 2: Detroit hooking ladder?
Speaker 3: No? I heard. It was crazy, It was crazy, was fantastic.
Speaker 3: Was at the end of the game, I remember, But
Speaker 3: it was a big touchdown. I remember that.
Speaker 2: If anybody doesn't know what the hooker and ladder is
Speaker 2: one pass catcher, I think this might have been a
Speaker 2: tight end in this case runs that's the hook part.
Speaker 2: He runs like a hook route, which is just run
Speaker 2: up a little bit and turn around and come back
Speaker 2: right and uh, and he catches the ball. But the
Speaker 2: timing is another receiver. In this case, the very fast
Speaker 2: James and Williams is cutting across the field and as
Speaker 2: soon as the guy who caught the ball first catches it,
Speaker 2: he then pitches it back to that in the first
Speaker 2: quarter running in front of him. Yes, it was well played,
Speaker 2: and that's a pretty famous uh. I think there was
Speaker 2: a hook a famous hooking ladder in that Miami was
Speaker 2: a Miami Raiders game. That's really famous for him.
Speaker 3: I always when I when I hear hook and ladder.
Speaker 3: I always think about it. It's near the end of
Speaker 3: the game. It's at the end of the game and
Speaker 3: you're trying to it's the last play of the game.
Speaker 3: That's when you when you said it that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's not much subterfuge for the people expecting
Speaker 2: you to do something weird then.
Speaker 3: But I did watch that. That was really well played.
Speaker 2: Now that's my new play that I wish we would use,
Speaker 2: all right, like once or twice this season.
Speaker 3: If I see Land going in the yeah, if you
Speaker 3: can room, I'll bring it up. Hey, if you haven't
Speaker 3: thought about this.
Speaker 2: I think we've seen that. He's got plenty of plays
Speaker 2: in his playbook. I don't think he needs anymore.
Speaker 3: Hey, you got a napkin, let me show you something here.
Speaker 3: We uh.
Speaker 2: We are now at fifty conversion rate on third downsand offense,
Speaker 2: which is phenmenal. It's tied with the Chiefs for the best.
Speaker 2: It's kind of cool. It's exactly one hundred two hundred
Speaker 2: unless we have a absolutely disastrous game in that regard.
Speaker 2: Next Sunday, we're going to break the team record for that.
Speaker 2: We also had forty one minutes and eleven seconds time
Speaker 2: of possession in that win over Carolina.
Speaker 3: That was time of possession was crazy. That whole game
Speaker 3: that's in starting in the first quarter, it was nuts.
Speaker 2: That's what happens when you're when you're drive scoring drives
Speaker 2: are seventy yards, seventy five yards, forty five yards, eighty
Speaker 2: one yards, sixty four yards, ninety four yards, and eighty
Speaker 2: five yards. Just that's when you one sustained drive.
Speaker 3: After another, that's when you know things are going your way.
Speaker 2: And because of that, the Buccaneers are now at the
Speaker 2: season time of possession is thirty one minutes and fifty
Speaker 2: nine seconds, so just under thirty two minutes, and that
Speaker 2: ranks tiede for second. And that's to me, that's the
Speaker 2: result of this running game, you know, because you and
Speaker 2: you have these sustained drives, because you're you're and also
Speaker 2: because I just mentioned our third down percentage. To me,
Speaker 2: what's important is the is the medium range third downs
Speaker 2: where we're excelling this year. If you're talking one to three,
Speaker 2: you expect to make almost all those, and if you're
Speaker 2: talking eight to ten, history is suggests you're not gonna
Speaker 2: have a very rate. It's the ones, the ones in
Speaker 2: the middle. I think that swing the balance and it's
Speaker 2: like when you need four to six yards, And that's
Speaker 2: where I think we've been.
Speaker 3: Really good this year. The numbers and again and again.
Speaker 2: That's uh that goes obviously to Baker, but also the
Speaker 2: Liam Cohen. Yeah, I'm actually going to tell you the numbers.
Speaker 2: In this last game. We were four for four in
Speaker 2: the four to six range in the season, where sixty
Speaker 2: two point seven percent success rate in the four to
Speaker 2: six range, which is almost as good as our one
Speaker 2: to three. That's that's really, really, really.
Speaker 3: Good, which falls back into the offensive line playing well,
Speaker 3: playing play calling going well, Baker may execution, Baker playing well,
Speaker 3: all of those things coming together at the right time.
Speaker 2: Since it's you know, we haven't even we haven't even
Speaker 2: oh one other thing. Did they take away the part
Speaker 2: of the rule on past interference where the ball is
Speaker 2: uncatchable because there was a playing in the game last
Speaker 2: night where the ball was easily twenty.
Speaker 3: Yards past everybody. No, I don't think it's been taken away.
Speaker 3: Nobody recalls it anymore.
Speaker 2: Nobody ever invokes the passes uncutchable, and sometimes we complain
Speaker 2: when it goes against us. Come on that wasn't catchable,
Speaker 2: but the accounter argument would be, well, it looked like
Speaker 2: it wasn't uncutchable because the interference kept the receiver.
Speaker 3: From from getting spot he was supposed to be there.
Speaker 2: Not on this one, dude, this ball landed like twenty
Speaker 2: yards past where the thing happened. I'm like, how is
Speaker 2: that pastor interference? How is that that's not catchable in
Speaker 2: any universe?
Speaker 3: Right? And you're you're looking at it as a fan
Speaker 3: asking that question, not as as one of your team.
Speaker 3: It wasn't your team there. So speaking of night games,
Speaker 3: I mean, so we win our game, when did we
Speaker 3: talk about night games? Just now?
Speaker 2: I said, last night's game? Oh okay, but it was
Speaker 2: Saturday night after we got home from our big win
Speaker 2: and we're watching at Land in Washington.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I did you stay up?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, me too. I liked well because it was
Speaker 2: our season on the line.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I liked that Todd went to bed and so
Speaker 3: did Bucky.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but they both get up very early in
Speaker 2: the morning.
Speaker 3: But the other side of the coin we had when
Speaker 3: when Todd said that, a few people were like, well,
Speaker 3: you know it is And I'm thinking, you know, I
Speaker 3: kind of like that because he's not worried about a
Speaker 3: game he can't control. He's worried about his team.
Speaker 2: So well, I knew I couldn't control it, but I
Speaker 2: wanted to know what happened to you.
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah. Well my thinking was I was going to
Speaker 3: go to bed, and I got to the half and
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yeah, maybe I'll go to bed.
Speaker 3: And then I thought, well, you know, I'll wait to
Speaker 3: the third quarter. And I'm glad I didn't because I
Speaker 3: ended up on the on the phone with Gene because
Speaker 3: a flight delays out of Tampa and he couldn't catch
Speaker 3: his connection and tell Ahassie. So I was rebooking flights
Speaker 3: and some other stuff. So I'm sitting there going, thank god,
Speaker 3: I didn't go to bed, but I stayed up and
Speaker 3: watched that game, and then when Washington scored, I'm going perfect.
Speaker 3: You know, I was disappointed they didn't get the touchdown.
Speaker 3: They got the field goal, so I said, seven, Okay,
Speaker 3: what's the odds of Atlanta marching down when they tied
Speaker 3: on fourth down? Yeah, and they got that touchdown. I
Speaker 3: was like, now I'm going to go to bed angry
Speaker 3: and I and that was the whole reason. I was
Speaker 3: thinking about going to bed without knowing because I would
Speaker 3: sleep good. But then at the end when they did
Speaker 3: kick the field gold, when they showed that camera shot,
Speaker 3: did you think.
Speaker 2: I was waiting for you to be done? Because that's
Speaker 2: what I wanted to talk about that. Did you see that?
Speaker 2: I saw a video somewhere of a gathering of Atlanta fans.
Speaker 3: At a bar. Yeah, I heard about that. And they
Speaker 3: didn't they.
Speaker 2: Didn't realize it didn't go in. They're all screaming and
Speaker 2: jumping up and down. It took like a good ten
Speaker 2: seconds for them to realize the ball didn't go in.
Speaker 2: So when I was watching, they were showing the end,
Speaker 2: the view from behind the end zone, and he kicks it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well that's good. Yeah, it was dead on
Speaker 2: and then it just like a dying quail. It's just
Speaker 2: like a duck, like like a duck.
Speaker 3: It was a dead duck. Duck, yeah, wounded duck, like
Speaker 3: a wounded duck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it landed. It lands on the ends, and I'm like.
Speaker 3: Holy cow, that's our that's our duck. Luck going.
Speaker 2: And Rahiem took some heat for his not calling a
Speaker 2: time out shortly before that, which could have given them
Speaker 2: a chance to get.
Speaker 3: A little closer or fumble the ball or off.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I know, I'm just aking heat for it.
Speaker 2: And he has said in retrospect maybe I should have.
Speaker 2: I mean, I like when coaches say that.
Speaker 3: Sure. Well, he also didn't go for two to win
Speaker 3: the game.
Speaker 2: Which is also understandable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we but Todd took heat for not going
Speaker 3: for to win a game. That's true. So anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that game, I I'm not kidding. I'm glad.
Speaker 2: Giselle was in the bathroom and talking to our niece,
Speaker 2: whose husband is a Giant Bucks fan, and I screamed
Speaker 2: so much during that game that I gave myself a headache.
Speaker 2: And Gesel told me this morning, She's like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: was talking to Andrew and I said, our things going
Speaker 2: in your house. He was probably screaming at the TV too.
Speaker 3: Is the Christmas tree still up?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: We did?
Speaker 2: We we We did have have a Carolina one that
Speaker 2: we had made. Do you got a New Orleans I
Speaker 2: don't yet, but we'll try to rectify that.
Speaker 3: Okay, just all gonna make one.
Speaker 2: I think we can get a little helmet and take
Speaker 2: it off of one of them, and you know. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: so that's the plan. Okay, hasn't she did? She got
Speaker 2: it done against Carolina.
Speaker 3: Right, let's see how long you leave your tree up?
Speaker 3: For longer than we should Okay, out of laziness.
Speaker 2: Part of the problem is we didn't put it up
Speaker 2: until like two days before Christmas.
Speaker 3: I want to get you. I'm all about that anyway,
Speaker 3: So that's fine.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's still the holidays. I mean, I
Speaker 2: can getting criticized on like January fifth, but yeah, not January.
Speaker 3: Well, actually, I think uh is it the Greek huh
Speaker 3: Callen is the seventh of January, the Epiphany. I believe
Speaker 3: it's in on the which is considered part of the
Speaker 3: holiday tradition. I did. I am trying to remember. But anyways,
Speaker 3: it is New Year's Eve. So do you do you
Speaker 3: have any resolutions table that? Because we have a question
Speaker 3: from a fan. Oh okay, well listen, we're at one
Speaker 3: twenty all right, so maybe we should just go do questions.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if we're going to really get
Speaker 3: a player now because we're so long into this.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll see. All I have an idea of something
Speaker 2: i'd like. The last thing I'll say is then in
Speaker 2: my radio camera Johnson was active again for the first
Speaker 2: time in a long time. Yes, And in my radio
Speaker 2: interview with your guys before the game, I suggested that
Speaker 2: he could get like the end around that they'd been
Speaker 2: giving a star on a shepherd and.
Speaker 3: Look at you knowing your players all right, So you.
Speaker 2: Want to have a fans question.
Speaker 3: Let's do fan question you want. I'm trying to get
Speaker 3: to them. Oh okay, I thought you had it lit
Speaker 3: up there.
Speaker 2: So last Tuesday would have been Christmas Eve? Anything after that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we got this one from Eileen. Okay, now the same
Speaker 2: Eileen Figueroa who always signs her thing Grandma and Liam
Speaker 2: Ohlas salty dogs. I hope both are doing well.
Speaker 3: What a game.
Speaker 2: My grandson Liam and I were so excited about the
Speaker 2: win and the commander's winning last night. Just to confirm,
Speaker 2: did Colpe get a fine for throwing the ball?
Speaker 3: She means into the standards stands.
Speaker 2: I guess it's okay to hand over the ball, but
Speaker 2: not to throw it.
Speaker 3: That was our thoughts.
Speaker 2: Also the duck that was so funny and it brought
Speaker 2: us good luck. Jeff. We live in Tampa. We live
Speaker 2: very close to the stadium. So close we can hear
Speaker 2: the cannons going off. By the way, I'm with the
Speaker 2: group that wants salty dogs merchandise hopefully for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Happy new Year to both, and May twenty twenty five
Speaker 2: be full of blessings for both. Thank you, Thank you, Ellen,
Speaker 2: Same to you and Liam.
Speaker 3: Goalie.
Speaker 2: You don't get fined for throwing the ball and stands?
Speaker 3: I don't think so. Yeah you did. No, I don't
Speaker 3: think you get fined. I think you get charged for
Speaker 3: the ball.
Speaker 2: I know you can hand it to somebody. I thought
Speaker 2: you got fined for them.
Speaker 3: Oh really, I've not heard it.
Speaker 2: Well, let's find out and.
Speaker 3: Next next week we'll have to look into that. But
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm officially saying I think you do. And you're officially
Speaker 2: saying you think you who would know that equipment? Guys?
Speaker 3: You think you want to ask? Yeah, you keep going,
Speaker 3: I'm going to out text him and ask him.
Speaker 2: But the bigger part of that is the Bucks had
Speaker 2: to find a way to get that back.
Speaker 3: Yes, Tim DROCKI comes to the rescue. I think I
Speaker 3: think wasn't Baker involved in it? Two? Baker was started
Speaker 3: the negotiation or do you know what they ended up
Speaker 3: giving him. I don't know, I do not know, but
Speaker 3: that was the other thing. Todd said that Tim Giroki
Speaker 3: has his finger on everything here, which I thought was
Speaker 3: very funny.
Speaker 2: Okay, next question, Hold on, I got a shoot off
Speaker 2: a quick email.
Speaker 3: Oh, I am texting, uh our equipment. You're texting and
Speaker 3: basically saying, do players get fine for throwing the ball
Speaker 3: in the stands? So? I mean that's a good that
Speaker 3: is actually a good question. Uh. I always just thought
Speaker 3: they had to pay for the ball.
Speaker 2: I I thought it was always that you had that
Speaker 2: you got fined. They don't want you throwing the balls
Speaker 2: into the stands.
Speaker 3: Because they're afraid someone will get hurt. I could belability
Speaker 3: that could be part of it. All right.
Speaker 2: So the next one is from Colton Phipps. Efficient Remember
Speaker 2: he was the guy who emailed us like three weeks
Speaker 2: in a row and dubbed himself in the official Idaho
Speaker 2: Buccaneers ambassador. Uh huh, and also really likes it when
Speaker 2: you tell me, all right, go ahead because you want
Speaker 2: me to move on.
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
Speaker 2: But then some other dude from Idaho has been emailing
Speaker 2: us lately, so he says, dogs, let's all join together
Speaker 2: this holiday season and say grace one last time for
Speaker 2: our Lord and Savior Jayden Daniels. He says, Sarquaz, I'm
Speaker 2: flowing heavy this morning. I can't believe it's all lining perfectly,
Speaker 2: lining up perfectly for our boys to make it to
Speaker 2: the playoffs again this year. My dream this year is
Speaker 2: to see Chris Godwin come back for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Long way to go, but if Alexander keeps up with
Speaker 2: marking his schedule, we got a shot. I haven't heard
Speaker 2: from Alexander in a while, No, we have not.
Speaker 3: But I did see Chris yesterday. Talk to him Godwin. Yes, wow, spirits,
Speaker 3: I actually had that and he was walking and that
Speaker 3: was great. There's no cane no, so I said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think if there's any chance of being
Speaker 2: him being ready in a month, he would need to
Speaker 2: be walking, right.
Speaker 3: And I saw what But that's what I'm saying. I
Speaker 3: saw him and as as I walked by the training
Speaker 3: room and I went, oh, there's Chris, and then he
Speaker 3: came out and I said, oh, and there's Chris walking
Speaker 3: and he started this laugh. I said, that's a good thing.
Speaker 3: He said, yes, that's as far as that conversation. But
Speaker 3: he looked good.
Speaker 2: Colton continues by saying that trunk Oregon fan that made
Speaker 2: it onto the field Sunday was insane.
Speaker 3: That's kind of finn. I got that.
Speaker 2: I get the reference. I thought the NFL doesn't highlight
Speaker 2: when a streaker run streaker runs or flies onto the field, lol. Gene, Yeah,
Speaker 2: because the duck didn't have any clothes on. No, we did, doctor,
Speaker 2: We picture the Bucksters, Yes we did.
Speaker 3: Gene.
Speaker 2: Deckerhoff's call of the blocked punt was by far my
Speaker 2: favorite moment from the game.
Speaker 3: Iron with you you already talked about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish he would do the TV broadcast one time.
Speaker 2: That's not really how it works. But it can turn
Speaker 2: the sound down.
Speaker 3: Yes, and you can the way it is now with TVs,
Speaker 3: you can turn the sound down and you know, you
Speaker 3: hit your DVR live record and then stop it. And
Speaker 3: then you can sync the radio too, because the radio
Speaker 3: it is going to.
Speaker 2: Be because that's he's a or. I wish there was
Speaker 2: an option to swap the audio for the radio broadcast.
Speaker 3: You just kind of have to. Yeah, you have to
Speaker 3: play with it. Turn your radio station off, your app
Speaker 3: off the app or it no matter anywhere. If you
Speaker 3: do use your desktop buccaneers dot com desktop. You can
Speaker 3: stream the whole time.
Speaker 2: After another Idaho guy wrote in, I thought I should
Speaker 2: start writing in again so I don't lose the title.
Speaker 2: And that's official Idaho Buccaneers Ambassador Colton Phipps.
Speaker 3: All right, wait wait wait wait wait wait, I got
Speaker 3: an answer for I got an answer bred it's always
Speaker 3: really good. Yes, fine, Ah, I win. NFL reasons it
Speaker 3: caused a disturbance, someone could get hurt.
Speaker 2: All right, So there you love it when I'm right,
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: I do. But he didn't know if he got charged
Speaker 3: for the ball. So I asked him for both, and
Speaker 3: he doesn't know that.
Speaker 2: Wait, that would park the part I would think you
Speaker 2: would do.
Speaker 3: No, he just said, I said what I did. Do
Speaker 3: players get fine for throwing the ball in the stands
Speaker 3: or just charge for the ball? Fine? NFL reason it
Speaker 3: causes disturbance, someone gets hurt. Oh, but he didn't answer.
Speaker 3: He didn't say maybe that parts. Do they have to
Speaker 3: pay for the ball? I'm going to ask him to anyway.
Speaker 2: Brian Smith, who's written in some several times in recent weeks, says,
Speaker 2: what's up, Salty dogs, go bucks? Awesome game, and I
Speaker 2: love that Atlanta lost. Now all we got to do
Speaker 2: is win next week, which we should, and the division
Speaker 2: is ours.
Speaker 3: Love Bucks.
Speaker 2: Oh and I loved the lucky duck. They should bring
Speaker 2: the duck out on the field for every point and
Speaker 2: put a little jersey on it. Lol, have a happy
Speaker 2: new Year.
Speaker 3: Put a little leash on it. And no, they don't
Speaker 3: have to pay for the ball. Okay, they just get fined.
Speaker 2: So you were wrong both ways. You couldn't have been
Speaker 2: more wrong.
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, if you're gonna do something, be consistent at it.
Speaker 3: So I am consistent, consistent, consistently wrong in this aspect.
Speaker 2: Okay, So that was it from Brian, But then he
Speaker 2: immediately sent a second one. I almost forgot my son
Speaker 2: that was excited about you reading my email is only nine.
Speaker 3: Oh well, then that's more important because what was his
Speaker 3: son's name? Again? Do we know? I don't know if
Speaker 3: he told us, I don't know. Uh, that's a great age.
Speaker 3: Being nine, you understand sports. You're all involved. He still
Speaker 3: listen to what dad tells you to do. Bomb. Also,
Speaker 3: those are important things. We don't have an age to
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 2: Well for the name, yeah from one of the previous emails.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's okay. Well, we'll just do a show,
Speaker 3: all right, go ahead, would just shout out to him, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: His name's probably Bucky, Okay, Daniel, his name is probably
Speaker 2: it is now he probably renamed him, Uh, Daniel de Maria.
Speaker 2: That's the Dan from Palm Harbor. I just realized I
Speaker 2: have not set our email address, which I should say
Speaker 2: at the beginning of every show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you don't. So if.
Speaker 2: You're still with us and you don't already know, you
Speaker 2: can email us at Salty Dogs at Buccaneers dot NFL
Speaker 2: dot com, and we wish you would. We like reading
Speaker 2: these emails. We try to read every single one of
Speaker 2: them if we can, if there's time. So far we've
Speaker 2: done most of them. I think, uh, you can, as
Speaker 2: Brian just did. He didn't even have a question. He
Speaker 2: just wanted to tell us a few things. You can complain.
Speaker 2: You can shoot us trivia and try to stump us
Speaker 2: or ask a question. And Daniel here says a hoy,
Speaker 2: salty Dog's only one word to describe yesterday. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: we're talking about the time. Tod Bowley, I think feels
Speaker 2: great to be back in first place in the South
Speaker 2: and control our own Destiny defense played a fantastic second half.
Speaker 2: Bucky the offense and everyone on the team played a
Speaker 2: great game. I love watching a special team's touchdown. You
Speaker 2: don't see them that much anymore. Sixty minutes away from
Speaker 2: a fourth straight MC South title, my two quick questions are,
Speaker 2: do you guys believe in New Year's resolutions? And do
Speaker 2: you guys set any goals?
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 2: Hope you guys have a great, happy New Years. I
Speaker 2: look forward to writing again in twenty twenty five. Sincerely
Speaker 2: from your biggest fan in Palm Harbor, Florida, Daniel de Mario,
Speaker 2: also known to stand the Man Go bucks ps. Please
Speaker 2: let's get some salty dog merchandise with both your faces
Speaker 2: and the duck.
Speaker 3: Just won't go away. Well.
Speaker 2: I believe in resolutions, that they exist. I believe that
Speaker 2: people do them. Is that what you mean?
Speaker 3: I think you mean to believe? Do we believe in
Speaker 3: doing them? Oh?
Speaker 2: I it just depends on the year. If I'm going
Speaker 2: to do one yet, I haven't thought of it.
Speaker 3: You. Uh, it's probably it's the same one every year,
Speaker 3: and I never get it right. I just try to
Speaker 3: be a better person.
Speaker 2: You're going in the wrong direction every year.
Speaker 3: I try though, I really really try to have more
Speaker 3: patience all that type of stuff, but it just somehow
Speaker 3: doesn't work. But that's okay. Yeah, health happiness, you know
Speaker 3: that type of stuff. Twenty twenty five. It's weird to
Speaker 3: hear twenty twenty five because just like Y two K
Speaker 3: seemed like yesterday and gosh, it's I know, crazy, that
Speaker 3: is absolutely crazy.
Speaker 2: You've got you got nine and a half more hours
Speaker 2: to say twenty.
Speaker 3: Twenty Yeah, well I won't be up, so it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: So maybe you have six more hours.
Speaker 3: Do you stay up for the New Year? You stay
Speaker 3: up late?
Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm prettyusually awake at midnight.
Speaker 3: Well usually I'm awake because I don't know when it
Speaker 3: became a tradition here in Florida that on New Year's
Speaker 3: it's so many fireworks. I just don't get that. But
Speaker 3: that's the new thing.
Speaker 2: They were going off last night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they always do. They go off the day before,
Speaker 3: the day after the day. Yeah, I don't I'm with
Speaker 3: you on that. That's not sorry. I never really understand
Speaker 3: that of spending that kind of money for fireworks.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of cheap fireworks. Well, if you
Speaker 2: if you're out there, and you like shooting off fireworks
Speaker 2: in New Year's.
Speaker 3: Then that you're right. Why, yeah, well it's better than
Speaker 3: shooting off a gun up in the air, so I
Speaker 3: guess if you could, if you break it down to that,
Speaker 3: you're you're good to go.
Speaker 2: All right. Well, that's it, Jeff, that's it.
Speaker 3: I'm very good. Well, Happy New Year, see you next year.
Speaker 3: Since you did, thanks for listening. I should have said
Speaker 3: thanks for quacking.