1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Flowing out of the backfield, 3 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: exploding down the sidelines. He's Hanging with the Boys, broadcasting 4 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: live from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star in Frisco. 5 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: Now your host, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and Shannon Gross Monday, 6 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: Hanging with the Boys. Man, it's been a while, it 7 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: has been. It has been. We had to cancel a 8 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: couple of shows. We didn't know what the hell was 9 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: going on. Once Nate left us to act, We're lost 10 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: without name. We are welcome back, Nate. Where you've been 11 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: Just on the road man, taking pair of live with 12 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: the family business. That a little mishapp in the family 13 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: and I had to go out of town to New Mexico. 14 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: And you know what were you doing in New Mexico 15 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: to do a little a little speech, you know, talk 16 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: to some car owners, dealership stuff like that. It wasn't 17 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: that flag ship forward, So I'm not gonna okay who 18 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: it was, but uh, just been on the road for 19 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: the last week two weeks, man, And I appreciate you guys. Man. 20 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: I thought you would take this thing by the by 21 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: the Home. He just canceled the show. I'm like, when 22 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: you told me that, I'm like, we just canceled the show. 23 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: I did one show, we did second one week. We 24 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: had stuff going on though we were I'm like, so 25 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 1: since I've left, we had some OTAs yep, and we've 26 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: had uh, cowboys yep. Media days. Yeah, I mean cowboys start. 27 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: That's where we start. Man, where do you want to start? 28 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: But the media day, because I was actually Kurt, he 29 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: was so vague, I'm like, okay, so that's all Kurt 30 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: was a part of the media was okay, what who 31 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: was an exciting guy to interview? So when we do 32 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: it in the summer, we know who exactly go get So, 33 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: just to kind of set it up, we do once 34 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: a year, usually the beginning of June, we have an 35 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: internal media day where we have about what fifteen stations 36 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: Kurt probably clo okay, ten to fifteen, just call it 37 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: twelve and a half stations set up around the Star 38 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: and we get all the things the players go through 39 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: kind of a car wash. They go around to each 40 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: one of these stations and everybody internally gets what they 41 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: need for the season. So like our game day, guys. 42 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: They shoot the intro video you see on game day. 43 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: They they shoot that with all the this year that 44 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: that's gonna look really cool. They had like lights and 45 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: lasers and stuff. We get uh burnards there we uh 46 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: for social media. We got a bunch of gifts of 47 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: the players and you get you get about five up 48 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 1: to five minutes with each guy. Kurt had a couple 49 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: of different stations. They did this three sixty kind of 50 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: cool camera thing we're gonna do some stuff with and 51 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: did some some had a station that was on a 52 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: blue back drop for or a green screen for the magazine. 53 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna use some of those on social media for 54 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: our graphics. So just all kinds of different things, and 55 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: you basically get to pick and choose which guys you want. 56 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 1: And kurtch two stations. You got everybody at both. Every right, Yeah, 57 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: so what about ninety something guys? I think there were 58 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: three injuries and such that didn't come through. So they 59 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: all come through. So we for the first time. It's 60 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: a first time we get to see a lot of 61 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: these guys in person. So who stood out to you 62 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: around for I bailed on the third day. I was 63 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: around for half the second day and all the first day. Yeah, 64 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: I got I got a lot going on. I got 65 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: a new website that's launching tomorrow. So he's so important. 66 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: Now I'm not important. I just he's so busy. I 67 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: am busy. Okay, how did Bold Scarborough at I mean, 68 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: is I'm pronouncing that last name right? Yeah? He was? 69 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: Um what Yeah? He didn't. He didn't, at least at 70 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: our area. He didn't. He wasn't as animated and as 71 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: some of the guys we had what we asked them 72 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: to do when we're taking photos is kind of one 73 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: of them, a real basic you know, just arms crossed, 74 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: looking tough for sideways, this sort of thing. But then 75 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: we asked him, hey, just have some fun and showed 76 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: a little personality, flipped the ball in the air, that 77 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: kind of thing. And he, I wouldn't say he was 78 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: as into it as some of the other Yeah, because 79 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: he got drafted and it was talking to him. Boy, 80 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: he was jacked. Yeah, you know, how did how did uh? 81 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: First was the second round picked the big lineman Connor Williams. 82 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: How did he? He's a big guy? Every Yeah, the 83 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: first thing I said, Hi is Connor. He's a big guy. Yeah, 84 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: he was fine. Connor or Vandersch was good. Um, and 85 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: Connor's Connor's strong, big too. He's not sloppy big. He's 86 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: like Tyran Smith. He's cut like he's got the v 87 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: shas Man. Yes, you know it was crazy. Was not 88 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: crazy in a good way. Uh, Taylor in Austin, Yeah, 89 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: you know what, he was a bundle of energy. I 90 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: heard from a lot of people that he surprised them. 91 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: He surprised them the most, Like, had a lot of 92 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: personality and was really fun and seemed smart and really 93 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 1: into it. And he came through our line. Um, Alan 94 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: Hearns was there first, and Hearns was good, but he 95 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: wasn't really getting into it. Boy, Austin walked in the 96 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: room and him and Beasley were in there too, all 97 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: three of them, and it was just a circus for 98 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: a while. He was it was fun, he was getting 99 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: to it. Who's somebody else? Man? I mean, what what 100 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: guy that you was expecting a lot from? And he 101 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: just was real calm Because I was expecting a lot 102 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: from both. I'm thinking, Bob gonna be jacked. I don't remember. 103 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: There were guys that I didn't expect anything. They're actually 104 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: really great. Uh, Shaun Lee. You know, I figured he 105 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't come in and stand there and say take the 106 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: picture and he's out of here. He spell I'm taking this. Well, 107 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: come on, guys, as I was taking seeing picture, right, 108 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: he was. He was a lot of fun. Zeke Zeke 109 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: was really good. He came through. Zeke always good. We 110 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: have to kind of tap your break Zeke. Yeah, but 111 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: you never know sometimes, you know, he has so many 112 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: demands that but he's here. Yeah, he was really good. 113 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: Dak was you know, all the big stars are really 114 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: fun to deal with. And had Tyron Smith comes, Tom 115 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: he did, he's you were there when he came. I 116 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: was there. He's a little bit more, you know. Yeah, 117 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: he's not gonna give you a whole lot. Yeah, he 118 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: was good. He was Day one, wasn't he? Yes, that's 119 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: when I hung out. Well, so day one he was 120 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: the beginning of new Who was the Day one? Guys 121 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: can't kind of give us some names on one game. 122 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: Day one was sort of the role player. Guys were 123 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: not the big names. I guess you'd say we got 124 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: a new look at uh, what's his name, Jeff Heath, 125 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, you know that kind of joad Ward we 126 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: got a first time I've seen him in the building. Actually, guy, 127 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: he is a big guy, big guy. Yeah, that's a guy. 128 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: Maybe talking about Jim anybody who's jahad Ward is Kurt. 129 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: He was the guy we got for Brian Switzer. Yeah, 130 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: he's the guy. He's the other guy, right, Yeah, well 131 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: they you know, that's the that's the thing. They He's 132 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: always played defensive end, but um, going back, he was 133 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl in twenty and sixteen and the 134 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys were the coaching staff and apparently Marion Ellie really 135 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: loved him, and so that was part of the of 136 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: the impetus for the Cowboys going and getting him was 137 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: Marion Ellie liked this guy. I want to try. And 138 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: well they're they're used him here at defensive tackle. Yeah there. 139 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you which one for sure, but they've 140 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: kind of moved him inside and they feel apparently with 141 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: his size that he can make an impact there. And 142 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: with Malie Collins heard David Irving out. He got a 143 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: lot of reps OTAs and uh brought us on Friday, 144 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it on the website, he did 145 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: his top ten kind of surprise players and he had 146 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: ward number one. He was really impressed with him. Wow, 147 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: So tell everybody you brought it up, David Irving, what's 148 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: what's going on with him? Well, what are you hearing, Kurt, 149 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: because we know you're on the inside here. Well, it 150 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: sounds like it's been hinted at that he's just had 151 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: some personal things he's wanted to take care of, hasn't 152 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: been in the OTA's didn't come through our media day stuff. 153 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: When he was here for the OTAs he worked out 154 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: on the side, they determined he wasn't in good enough shape, 155 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: which is kind of apparently apparently that's kind of a 156 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: that's got to be kind of a red flag for 157 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: a for a guy whose job it is to be 158 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: in shape and ready to go, and he wasn't it. 159 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: But yeah, five days ago, he posted on his Instagram account, 160 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: I think this was right during media days. I wish 161 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: the media would tell the truth about why I'm really 162 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: not at OTA's. I wonder if they know, if they 163 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: even know the real reason. There is no football. If 164 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: there's no me, got to help yourself before you help others, right, 165 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: Just stay tuned for the damn season. Yeah, and that's 166 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: Garrett hinted that at that as well in a press 167 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: conference that Irving apparently has just some personal things he's 168 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: trying to kind of work through, and you know, it's 169 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: all been documented. He kind of went through a Twitter 170 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: war there with his with his girl a will back 171 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: that kind of created some headaches. But hopefully he'll have 172 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: his head on right and it'll be interesting to see 173 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: if he's out here for the mini camp because the 174 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: OTAs were voluntary mandatory. I used to be kind of 175 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: a guy that was not stable, but closely got into 176 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: football season. That has to be the most important thing. 177 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: A lot of these guys got to understand that. And 178 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be totally honest. Without football, it ain't you 179 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: know you right, And I'm just I'm just being about 180 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: because you ain't put yourself in position in other areas 181 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: to be more than what you're doing right now. So 182 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: if you ain't doing the ball, you ain't. You ain't 183 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: doing nothing. Yeah, you know a lot of people got 184 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: mad at merch. Haid has been it when it was 185 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: here because he had other interests. But now that time 186 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: is gone gone on and he's retired and you see 187 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: the things that he's in and you'd be like, wow, 188 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: he was more than just a football player. Uh, Coaches 189 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: don't secret secretly, coaches don't like to hear that. Scouts 190 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: don't like to hear that. But you're a positive factor 191 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: once you get off the fields and people say, wow, 192 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: this this You know, you knew Jason Whittam is gonna 193 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: be more than just a football player because he had 194 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: other interests in other areas, you know, but he showed 195 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: his dedication to the game. It was never question. You 196 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: can't continue to do it. Whatever mister Urban is going through, 197 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: whatever he's going through, I pray that he come out 198 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: of it. But one day you're you're gonna realize, like, wow, 199 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: I missed a great opportunity here. If I'm gonna tell 200 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: you a guy I know he don't mind me saying 201 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: this is leon Lett. If Leon Lett would have played 202 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: every season, every game, ain't no doubt in my mind 203 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: where he would be sitting. But sometimes we got a 204 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: little I'm focused and it costs us games. When it 205 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: costs you games, it nudges that who you who you at, 206 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: your potentially what you can truly be. So stir every 207 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: need to whatever the issue is. And I'm not going 208 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm not a journalist. So I'm not going to say, hey, man, 209 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: what's your problem? Out of lie, but calm down, relax 210 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: and find out who you are and do you really 211 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: want this game? Because you can't every year go in out? 212 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: He sayn't wait till the damn season, but he missed 213 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: most of the last season, and then he played, and 214 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: then he missed the most of the last half of 215 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: the season. Now you actually you want me as a 216 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: man to believe that you're gonna start it this season? 217 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: Come on, man, right, we can't wait till damn exactly? 218 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: Come on, man, what was that Doulas? That was Dak Prescott? 219 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: Play that again? Exactly? Come on, man, I'm from North Louisiana. 220 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: That's not no North Louisiana. You know, you know Daks 221 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: took his time and thought that out real slowly. Right, 222 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: what'd you have him in there doing? Douglas various and 223 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: sundry things. Okay, at your request, I might ask, Okay, hey, hey, 224 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: I have to do this because the fans expect this. 225 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: Shut the hell up, Douglas. Douglas. Douglas has another issue. 226 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: He took anti radiant, some type of radiation. Peel like 227 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna so he can show. I don't know what. 228 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but he does this. 229 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: Dude got more issues, man, I just thought, so we 230 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: get the doctor, we get an email, We get an 231 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: email from Douglas on Friday, over the weekend something. He's like, Hey, 232 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: I probably won't be there for the beginning of the show. 233 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: Kids gonna kick it off. I just figured he was 234 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: in there on his lunch break, broke his other tooth 235 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: on the toy something. So what happened you get you 236 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: took a radiation or something to make the radiation starting 237 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: to bother me? Yeah? No, uh, I just I got 238 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: to get a scan done tomorrow and they have to 239 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: give me a pill to take so that there's contrast 240 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: in my system. It's not a big deal. I mean 241 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: they're putting not live but iron in it. I mean 242 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: we show up on the radiation. Man, they mostly put 243 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: things over people so you don't get radiation. They give 244 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: us duck dug. I hope you make it. Man, you 245 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: got a last will and Tess thet there just counting 246 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: on him. Yeah, it's it's I didn't they used to 247 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: make you drink any that before, way back in the day. 248 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: Barry Um sulfate. Yeah, that was horrible. It was it 249 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: was like chalk and that cheap pink bubblegum that you 250 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: used to buy for a penny. Wow, that would come 251 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: in a little something. Yeah, but Zuka, it was like, yeah, 252 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: that barry Um sulfate was like drinking chalk and nasty 253 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: bubble gums. So now they give it to you an 254 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: a peel huh Yeah, and it's just like taking a vitamin. Wow, 255 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: it's fine. You know what, I can't figure out. We 256 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: haven't had a car problem. We haven't had a conversation 257 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: like this in ale while. So let's just since we 258 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: started this direction, you need to know more about the toilet. 259 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: Well not well, it kind of has something to do 260 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: with it. It's twenty eighteen, right, right, got all these 261 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: medical advances, right, got all these you know, thermometers have 262 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: come a long way, and you don't have to drink 263 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: that chalky drink and everything. But when you man, and 264 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: you turn from forty five ish, you gotta go. You 265 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: still have to go get to certain tests done, and 266 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: they don't haven't figured out a better way to do 267 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: it for real, Man, it forty years ago they still 268 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: doing this same old thing. Bend over. Yes, like can 269 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: they not figuring this out? Like I am putting this off. 270 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: I have to go get just look yes, like something 271 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: that's not as what do they call it these days? Invasive? Yeah? Man, 272 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: come on of harassment. Yeah, I'm just I'm putting it 273 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: off because I'm like, surely in the next they'll come 274 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: up with something. When they don't. You get checked, get checked, 275 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: get checked, said the Channon probably request three fingers. I'll 276 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: tell you what it is, but you greg get checked 277 00:15:54,360 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: that no joke, no joke. M Kurt. I don't know 278 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: what to say after all that, you ever do you 279 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: ever know what to say? No, I'm just longing for 280 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: the ride here. Okay, that's what we're talking about. We 281 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: were talking about jahad Ward and David Irving and yeah, 282 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: David Irving's off the field issue. Is it better for 283 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: him to be away from football and take care of 284 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: this stuff or yes, depending on what is, depending on 285 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: what it is, because I think the Cowboys and it's 286 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: just Nate's opinion, you know. I I don't go talk 287 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: to nobody, you know, and if I did, I would 288 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: let you know. They're trying to clean it up. I 289 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: think they really got a new group of guys. They're 290 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: all young for the most part. I just look at 291 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: every position. Even our old guy Tyron Smith is virtually 292 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: a young guy. He's just you know what I'm saying, 293 00:16:55,320 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: just everybody's young, and they trying to get some new 294 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: life pumped into this team, some new blood, new situation. 295 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: Uh and and they won't these guys up and going 296 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: yeah and I and and David Irving he's he's not 297 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: a bad guy. I mean, I can sit here all 298 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: day and say, Okay, this is what he went through 299 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: with his young lady. But when you talk to this guy, 300 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: when you sit down with this guy, he's a good 301 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: fun But I don't want to say, what does he 302 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: do to go home? And all of a sudden, I 303 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, I don't have the answers to that 304 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,479 Speaker 1: part of his problems what you alluded to earlier. He's 305 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,479 Speaker 1: just he's already got a track record, yes, And so 306 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: it just compounds the issue. I think for his teammates 307 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: first coaches, this guy we can rely on. Yeah, and 308 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: this is basically a guy they went and kind of 309 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: found kind of amitt you know, yeah, or if you 310 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: want to, you know, to use what they call marion 311 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: Elli's guys and turn turn him into something. And when 312 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: he's on he's one of the best in the league. 313 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: But you know, Nate is there, uh is it kind 314 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: of a a pros and cons when it comes to players. 315 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: If he gets to where you can't trust the guy 316 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: to do certain That's what I'm scared up, because it's 317 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: gonna come a point where it's not worth it. Yeah, 318 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: missus Jones or Steven or Will or even Jason gonna say, 319 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: Marion Natalie, do we not have anybody close to this talent? 320 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: I mean, what what what do we need to do here? 321 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: Coach may give his opinion on that, give his opinion 322 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: and it and if they don't, you know, at one 323 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: point they may not stand up on the table because 324 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: evidently right now somebody standing up on the table and 325 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: believing that this kid got a lot to offer. But 326 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: it's gonna come to day we ain'tybody gonna stand up 327 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: on the table. And and I don't say this everybody 328 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: that's involved with this guy, he ain't gonna be the 329 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: same guy when football over with. He's learning potential. We 330 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: don't know how great it can be off the field 331 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: of what other interests he have, but at this point 332 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: in time, to two million plus dollars, that's a lot 333 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: of money you can make in six seven months. That's 334 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: a lot of money. So you know, if you anywhere 335 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: near him or love him or care about him, help him, 336 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: you know. And this is he just signed a one 337 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: year deal, right, yeah, I mean if he go off 338 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: the chain this year, oh my god. Yeah. So, I mean, 339 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: just reminded me of his stats. He's he only played 340 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: eight games last year, but he had seven sacks in 341 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: those games and six you know, batter down six balls. 342 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just tantalizing, you know. I guess that's 343 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: why they're willing to be patient with him, because, man, 344 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: like you said, he when he's on, you get him consistent, 345 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: get that kind of production out of him on a 346 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: consistent basis, and look out. 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Right? 407 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: These are the guy yeah biggest offseason surprises so far 408 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: and right now. By the way, if you go to 409 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot com tomorrow after about ten o'clock, you 410 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: will see a new revamped website. Talk about that without 411 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: warn people. May well, let's see how it goes tomorrow 412 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: because if if it's a disaster, I don't want to 413 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: talk about it. If if we launch it in good shape, 414 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: we can talk about it all right, next next time? 415 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: This Yeah, this was you know, Brian checks the tape 416 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: and evaluates every practice as part of his scouting resume, 417 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: I guess. And these were the guys on our website 418 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: that he felt were the biggest offseason surprises. Number ten 419 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: was defensive end Austin Larkin, who honestly had never heard 420 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: of it, no know him. He was an undrafted free 421 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: agent guy out of Purdue. I believe, okay, g good 422 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: hair on that guy. Number nine is Jamie He was 423 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: on the team back in what two thousand something like 424 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: that fourteen fullback um and he's he Brian was worried 425 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: about losing Keith Smith, and he seems to think this 426 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: guy can step right in and fill that void. Number 427 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: eight quiet guy too, Yeah, Number eight Brian Byron Jones, 428 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,239 Speaker 1: whoa moving to corner. WHOA he likes what he sees there, 429 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: which that's a good sign because again but apparently this 430 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: is Christira Shard. He's fitting that scheme that he likes. 431 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: Seven Cole Beasley, who would have thought, okay, like a 432 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: couple of veterans back to back, like he's putting out 433 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: a signature sauce and then pouring it on his hands exactly. 434 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: UM six, justin marsh Lillard, the linebacker. We picked him 435 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: up middle of the season earlier season last year, didn't 436 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 1: play much. They seemed I heard some buzz around him 437 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: last year. They seemed to like him. He just couldn't 438 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: get him on the field a lot. Yeah, he would 439 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: mainly special teams, but apparently he's off too good start. 440 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: He had a broke up a pass and fumble recovery 441 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: and like the last otass kind of stood out. Number 442 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: five Michael Gallop, the wide receiver or third round pick. 443 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: That's good to hear. UM four Lake Jarwin. He's another 444 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: guy who're starting to hear a lot of buzz. Yeah, 445 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: so I heard a lot about him towards the end 446 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: of last year and kind of now he'll get definitely 447 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: get more playing time him and Uh, I guess swam 448 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: Or you're front runners with Shultz in the mix. Sounds 449 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: like Swain. We'll get the he's kind of by default 450 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: first team guy right now because he's got the most 451 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: teaming Well, I think starting out you gotta put somebody 452 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: on first team to begin with default. Wow, well, somebody's 453 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: got to go out there when they first day first team, 454 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: somebody's got to go out for player intros before the game, right, Wow. 455 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: I mean Gay played a down man. He's been good. 456 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Feel to be get him on the show. 457 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: Brings his family out to camp. They sat there and 458 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: watched the show and the heat and Kurt, you know what, 459 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: let's get him on the show. At camp the first week, 460 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: Kurts will be like, oh, by the way, Kurts and 461 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: you were the time about the fall. Wrong choice of words. 462 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: I like Jeff. I hope he does well. I want 463 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: to see him. He will do well. He will Blake 464 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: Jarwin know he's a guy that is apparently making some noise. 465 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: That's a good shot. Screwed the two of you. Number 466 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: three coming in hot, Jalen Smith. Here we go, liking 467 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: how he's moving without the brace. I heard about that. Yeah, yeah, 468 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: he's doing well. So and just the nicest human being 469 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: and proved it again at media days. He's like, I 470 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: want to know what he was doing? What's this for? 471 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: Where y'all using this? Okay? And then yeah, jay Lin 472 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: and just went with it. So great guy number two, 473 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: Lyle Collins, you're good, Nates. I'm sure happy to hear. 474 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: According to brought us their last time. This time last season, 475 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: there was more questions about Collins moving to office, some 476 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: tackle and how he would do this year. The only 477 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: question is why didn't they try him there sooner? What 478 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: do you think they with that? Oh? Man, I'm now 479 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: that they've made the move because I always liked to 480 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: keep you your middle solid. And now that he's made 481 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: to move, and he suggested, real, well, just don't move 482 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: him back, don't leave him. That's yeah, that's the game 483 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: I don't like to play when you're trying to jail office. 484 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: The line that that's gonna have to be big this year. 485 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: Until we know where I received was sitting. You know, 486 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: how do you feel? How do you feel about the 487 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: line moves like it? I'm you know, Uh, they made subtle, 488 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: great moves. I mean, nothing outstanding that gonna gonna blow 489 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: your wig back. But I'm telling you the you you 490 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: you say your office in line is your strength. I 491 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: think you went and made it solid. You made your 492 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: office in line back solid again. Okay, Uh, you needed 493 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: guys at wide receiver that can run routes. These guys, 494 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: all these guys supposed to be route runners, so you 495 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: don't get tagged. Uh, this is the only route you 496 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: can run. This is the only thing you can do. Now, 497 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: guys can move to multiple positions. You know, I haven't 498 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: went to OTAs and I purpose it didn't go to 499 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: OTAs because I'm not getting my hopes up on a 500 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 1: bunch of guys running around and bloom us. You gotta 501 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: put up some pass, you know what I'm saying. So, 502 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: I mean, but I beat up for stop. Now this 503 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: is when it gets going. Many Camp. Yeah, what's so, 504 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: what's the difference? Walk us through what the difference between 505 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: they've they've had OTAs for what the last three weeks? 506 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: And then this is mini camp will be the next 507 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: in Many Camp three days. Everybody mandatory rookies and veterans. 508 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: So OTAs. You don't have to come unless you it's voluntary, right, 509 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: you better come. Everybody think you're out of veteran you 510 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: if you're not a veteran of the Wars, you better 511 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: be there. I was the only one that Yeah, okay, 512 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: so I think you get to put your hands on 513 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: a guy. Now you get to compete a little bit more. 514 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: You don't get the throw a guy down or whatever, 515 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: but in OTA's it's more just learning, going out there, learning, 516 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: getting the shape, you know, knowing what to do. No, 517 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,719 Speaker 1: they're not in pass, but I think guys are compete 518 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: a little bit more. And now you get the really 519 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 1: lining guys up where you think they're gonna start training 520 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: camp at you know, kind of looked at this guy disposition, 521 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: this guy disposition. But now you're starting to try to 522 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: put people in positionally, starting to want to build your team. 523 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,959 Speaker 1: Is this where you start getting getting your head around 524 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,239 Speaker 1: you your your depth charter? Do you wait till training? Can? 525 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,239 Speaker 1: You know they always have idea and these OTAs has 526 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: been that look that how Jason Garrison, you're always getting 527 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: looked at. This guy's always looking at you and and now, 528 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: uh many camp you should start norm way, Okay, this 529 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: is who we're gonna ride with this first week and 530 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: sometime even to the first preseason game for coach Field 531 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: strong enough about you say you're an inexperienced guy, but 532 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: they know that, hey, we need this guy to be 533 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: to come along the only way you can do that 534 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: and start giving them reps. So now you start giving 535 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: that guy these reps that he needs, you know, and 536 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: everybody started jocking for a position, and the ain't know. 537 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you got your first round pick, who's gonna 538 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: be if not a starter, that's the second guy on 539 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: the depth chart. Then it goes down the list. This 540 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: is where you start building. This is where undrafted guy 541 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: can make a move. You know. Now they're saying they're judging, 542 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,719 Speaker 1: but ots, you know, you're learning and you're getting in shape. 543 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: Same thing with these deals here now. And I don't 544 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: know how Jason's gonna handle that because he handled the 545 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: rookie minicamp sweet for US guys not touching and hitting 546 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,959 Speaker 1: at all. You know, it's like everybody was like a shadow. 547 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: You know, just when you got a defensive guy, you 548 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: come off the ball, but nobody but I think you 549 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: can touch guys now, probably have to check brought us. 550 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: You know, you can put your hands on the guy. 551 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: No pads, but you can. Yeah, you can physical to 552 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: think so the intensity is probably a little bit right, yeah, 553 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: but but now you don't it ain't nor more. You 554 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: in college and you got to go back to college, 555 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: and it's all about this is the official let's get 556 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: it started. Let's get ready of the training camp. Training camp? 557 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: What is what a month to month and a half away, 558 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: So it's better off you an undrafted guy. Was it 559 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: when you were Was it the same kind of format 560 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: when you were playing, where you had these weeks sotas 561 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: in the mini camp? One of the rules, the ownership 562 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: on you. That was it. They told you to be there. Yeah, 563 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: you know, Jimmy Johnson was the first guy to ever 564 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 1: do over tas and the league caught on the Jimmy 565 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: you know. And so man, like I tell we used 566 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: to be, especially when I was with the red Skins 567 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: that brief period, I'm like, I'm like wishing you had 568 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: on pads. I mean, and after that first practice you 569 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: go in and cool lowne man you oh my god, 570 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: you go back get ready for the second practice. They 571 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: had to beg you to stretch. You was winning to stretch, 572 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, you that guy want to jack around while 573 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: they stretched shot, but you'd be so beat up you're 574 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: trying to get loose. I mean, that's when they used 575 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: to have a hundred hundred rookies in camp. Jeez, and 576 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,959 Speaker 1: now you still had a guy forty seven to fifty guys. 577 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: That was veterans. But you had a hundred rookies in camps, 578 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: a lot of bodies, and and everybody was competing. Everybody 579 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: was coming. How do you even watch that many players 580 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: like because you had a longer period of time because 581 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: just think, uh, you got drafted, you got your free 582 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: agent rookies, and everything just happened. When they'll try you 583 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: was my free agent rookie, like trying that guy. Oh, 584 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: we got like fifty guys we invited to try to 585 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: see if they can make it the camp. They just 586 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: signed guys. Boom boom, boom. All them guys is now 587 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: doing that and then we just signed You were getting 588 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: enough to try out, you were gonna make it the camp. Yeah, 589 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: if it's just for a couple of days. Yeah. And 590 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what's so funny. But I was 591 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: in college and they by the time I got out 592 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: of college, they weren't doing this. Someone they would signed, 593 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: like I said, one hundred rookies on hundred and twenty rookies, 594 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: and you would at least be there anywhere from a 595 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: week to maybe two to three weeks before the veterans 596 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: get there, and some guys would get cut within the 597 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: first week. And never got a rep. Wow, never got 598 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: any rep you. One guy came like in the Nate 599 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: train lane played for me and play with us at 600 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: Florida and then said train. Ain't you back? You're like, yeah, man, 601 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,479 Speaker 1: I said, did you did you get a shot? Man? 602 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:59,719 Speaker 1: Not even gotta didn't even get a rep. Jeez, look better. Wow. 603 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: That's kind of way I feel about Kurt sometimes when 604 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: we walk in this room looking whatever he's gonna lett 605 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: Nate Talk today. Can you imagine man going on the 606 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: interview and uh, didn't even get you the courtesy of 607 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: you do the interview, it will get you a call, 608 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: and they never get your call. So many camps in 609 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: for you, even though you're kind of doing this other 610 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: stuff with Jimmy. When the start Oftate ots did mini camp, 611 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: kick it up a notch, Yeah, because Jimmy let every 612 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: rookie know that these guys over here ain't my guys. 613 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: These are the guys I drafted, these other guys outside, 614 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: these other guys I'm looking forward to making the t 615 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: so a veteran like, huh, I'm gonna beat this ricket down. 616 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 1: So it was straight competition, and it was the same 617 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: way with Coach. It was straight coming. Even though he 618 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: had a veteran team and most of the ter is 619 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: gonna make it, he still left left enough wiggle spacing 620 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: there that if you are good enough free agent or whatever, 621 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: you had a chance to make it. Sit. Do you 622 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: ever have a rookie come in and be like, I'm 623 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: taking your job. Yeah, yeah, you know that. You know 624 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: they they let it leak out. But training camp was 625 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 1: so hard back then to you know that that sounded 626 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 1: good in many camp. You know, it's it's a different 627 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: strow when you put on the pads. I tell people 628 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: the NFL would be a little bit better off if 629 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: they would add once a week extra PAD day, you know, 630 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: just you know, not not not nothing, you know, just 631 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: wanting doing training camp. Add a PAD day, you know, 632 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: give these guys a chance to get themselves and some 633 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: type of players can put that in and the next 634 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: CBA players ain't gonna put it in. Took it out. Yeah, 635 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: but you know what, that's why a lot of these 636 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: guys are not ready for the season. Then they come 637 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: back halfway through the season of three games into the season, 638 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: that's when you start saying the better football game six seven, 639 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: better tackling. Yeah, because I'm not saying go out and 640 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: knock by no means. I like how to handle the training. 641 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: I mean many camps, I like how to handle them. 642 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: I like it this way. You know, you're getting in shape, 643 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: and they needed to let these guys have a little 644 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: more time with the strength coach to get them ready 645 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: for football. But that's not my deal. That's not my issue. 646 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: You know, as hard as camp was back in the day, 647 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: did you ever see anybody just quit just said this 648 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: ain't for me. I don't want it. Yeah, man, really, 649 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: And and the thing about it, don't it ain't gonna 650 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: happen late in camp. It's gonna happen early in camp 651 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,439 Speaker 1: for you even really get to know the guys. Yeah, 652 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,919 Speaker 1: you know, you like, you know, should get the line 653 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: the shorter. You'd be like, this is I'm gonna quicker. Man, 654 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: we cut such a sad now he's just left. Wow, 655 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: I just had enough. Huh. This ISNFL life not for me. 656 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: Can you imagine? Man? This is called Coach Lander had 657 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: a thing called wolves and goals where you start on 658 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: the goal line. He'll you start out running fast, candid 659 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: and he'll blow the wuss he stopped. He blow the 660 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: whiss he started back blow, the whusses stopped going down 661 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: the field. Man, and you think, you know, you think 662 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna go down and back down and back and 663 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 1: that's be it. But depending on how you practice. I'm 664 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: thinking about ten wolves and goals and then a hundred 665 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 1: yards wow, oh hold on, man, after practice, I'm three 666 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,280 Speaker 1: hundred forty pounds. I'm like, whoa, how you go, Mohammed? 667 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 1: Whoaing goal? You know? I'm like, man, was there any 668 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: part of the training camp you enjoyed when you played 669 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: training at the training table? The thing, the food always there? Good? No, no, 670 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 1: no one know this this new fangle eating better? Please? 671 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: We had good food. Yeah, great food. But you still 672 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: gets out of it because you're in training camp saying 673 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: day over and over and over, Kirt, you figure out 674 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: when you're coming out yet I think so, I think 675 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: that first Monday I'll be out there for that I'll 676 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: be out So you're gonna be the first Monday and 677 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: Monday in Canton. Yeah, no, I'm not going out there. 678 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: I'll be there the first week and then the Monday 679 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: and Tuesday, and then when the team goes to San Francisco, 680 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: play it back home. So you'd be out week week 681 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: and a half more or less. Yeah, you can be 682 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: out a week and a half. I thought you'll be 683 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: in training camp about a week and a half. Oh okay, 684 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: because I'm like I thought it was somebody gonna come 685 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 1: two days and leave him like again again, speaking of camp, 686 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: why do you why you don't come out with us? Well, 687 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: I mean, part of it is just things that have 688 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: going on here. Part of it I think is a 689 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,240 Speaker 1: budgetary thing. Well, hell, they don't do your magazine anymore. 690 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 1: What you got going on back here? You know, as 691 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: shocking as it sounds, I do have stuff going on. 692 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: They freed you up to come to camp, you still 693 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: can't come. They Kurt. Everyone knows you're pretty cool, see 694 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: Dak thinks So yeah, thank you, Dak Dak. And that's 695 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: a little Italian guy. Yeah, we got him too. What 696 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 1: was his name? He's at Rhode Island, Rhode Island. J 697 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: from Rhode Island. Yeah, he'll be back good. A pretty 698 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: cool guy, all right. Yeah, speaking of Canton, what do 699 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: you guys think about t O Man, I don't get 700 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: it choosing not to go to the ceremony. You know, 701 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 1: I've never had nothing against Teal and to this day, 702 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: I still don't have anything against Seal because to is consistent, right, 703 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,720 Speaker 1: He's consistent, I mean, and that's why I don't understand 704 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: why people get mad at TiO. For me and consistent, 705 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 1: it was about t O and with forty nine, it 706 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,439 Speaker 1: was about TiO with the Philadelphia Eagles. It was about 707 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: TiO with the Dallas Cowboys. Okay, it's about TiO in 708 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. He's being himself. I mean, he's 709 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: never changed. Uh you know, I heard him and Mike 710 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 1: had Twitter words. But Mike, Mike has always been a 711 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: team guy. I mean, and Mike is selfish in his 712 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: own way, but he's always known that he needed a 713 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 1: team to get where he wanted to get, and that's 714 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: what he did. So don't don't t away is let him. 715 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: So what I mean, as long as the Hall of Fame, 716 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: don't uh sacrifice their integrity. Mike, I don't how to 717 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,760 Speaker 1: sacrifice he is or anybody else. I mean people people 718 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 1: have died to get into the Hall of fame, where 719 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: you ain't. You ain't dead, and you ain't in the 720 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: Hall of fame, So don't you worry about it. I mean, 721 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: that's just how I go. I mean, TiO, he's consistent. 722 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, what do you think about it, Kurt, 723 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: I have a problem with it? Well, I guess, I 724 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,800 Speaker 1: guess the way they put it tried. Its typical too, 725 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: but it is disappointing. I mean you'd like to think. 726 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he campaign to begin the the Hall of Fame. 727 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 1: I mean, that was a very important thing to him, 728 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: and now that's I don't what he's trying to prove. 729 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what he's trying to prove when he 730 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: didn't make it the first time. Yeah, he he automatically felt, Okay, 731 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: once again, I've been shunned. He thought for the nine 732 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: the shun and he thought the Eagles shun and me 733 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: thought the Cowboys. Sean once again, he's Oh, all I 734 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: care about is Okay, you're in there, and a lot 735 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: of guys, include myself, thought you should have been in there, right, Okay, 736 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: I'm not happy about you're not. You're not being there. Okay, 737 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: but that's fine too. That's that's fine too. But what 738 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: I do care about is, you know, a lot of 739 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 1: people what they should they shouldn't say nothing about him, 740 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: da da da. I just don't want to the Hall 741 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: of fame to to to lack the integrity that it's 742 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,399 Speaker 1: always had, the who you are, you are, the hall 743 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: of fame you have, you are something special. This is 744 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,720 Speaker 1: something that it's one of the few things that man 745 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 1: has made that I say, this is special. Keep being 746 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: you the hall of fame. You think a lot of 747 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: people are saying, yes, put his bust in the hall, 748 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: but just basically ignore him. Otherwise, Yeah, just if he's 749 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: not gonna be there, you don't have to. You you 750 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: have your ceremony, Let it go. Because this thing, this 751 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: one thing gives a player, few players in the NFL, 752 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: a chance to be bigger than the game. This because 753 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 1: of the game and who you were, you have a 754 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 1: chance for a certain amount of time to be bigger 755 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 1: than the game. And like I told everybody that I 756 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, I'll tell you guys, I've always heard him 757 00:42:55,560 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: talking about this grandmothers mother. Okayto this is a chance. Okay, 758 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,760 Speaker 1: don't even talk about yourself. Don't even say nothing about yourself. 759 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: Don't but get up and talk about your grandmama. Them 760 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:14,720 Speaker 1: are your Motherfuck for fifteen minutes to sit out. You know, uh, life, 761 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: you don't you don't get a do over in this situation. 762 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: So you can't ten years or not twenty years and 763 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: you fifty five or sixty years old. You know, I 764 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: wish you had to know. You have opportunity to think 765 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: about what's going on. This ain't something that happened overnight. 766 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 1: This is something that you've had a chance to think. 767 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,479 Speaker 1: And evidently he even thinking about this a long time. 768 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: If I ever get it all, show them, well, okay, 769 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: you can't show the Hall of Fame anything, you know, anybody, 770 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: You're not being there. These other guys shitting buy into it, 771 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: the Raise, the Lackers, the other guys. They shouldn't buy 772 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 1: into it. The Hall of Fame shouldn't buy into it, 773 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: and the NFL shouldn't buy into it. Keep your integrity intact. 774 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: Has he given a reason? The only reason you need, 775 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: the only reason you need is he's not showing up. 776 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: Nothing is wrong with a family member. He's not sick, 777 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,919 Speaker 1: because if something is wrong with the family member, I mean, 778 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 1: something can be arranged here. So it don't you, like 779 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: I said, just sit out and think he wanted to 780 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 1: be a first ballot Hall of Famer. That did not happen. Okay, 781 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: From that day on, he's been thinking, if I get in, 782 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: I'll show them if I get it. Okay, you in. 783 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,839 Speaker 1: So now you think you're showing if if this thing 784 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:01,280 Speaker 1: has handled right, t will we won't even be thought 785 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: of if it's handled right. And by what I'm saying 786 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 1: by that is if I'm the guys that maintain the 787 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame and put all of this stuff into place, 788 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 1: I would just not say a word. So you know, 789 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 1: you don't think they even put him in the presentation. No, 790 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 1: you don't just put his bust in there. And you 791 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 1: put his bust in there because he don't want to 792 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 1: be a part of the history, of the legacy of 793 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: what the Hall of Fame is all about. Being a 794 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 1: great player, bringing not only the numbers, the stats, supposed 795 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 1: to be a pretty decent person, which I think Till 796 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 1: is a decent person. But he got this thing that 797 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 1: and a lot of people having in Camba can never 798 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,919 Speaker 1: He'll grow out of it one day, maybe a little 799 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,840 Speaker 1: too late. It may not matter, but a lot of 800 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: things happen in life is not about you see, and 801 00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 1: and he hasn't gotten past that. Yeah, I pray, does 802 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: you know? I mean people skip the Academy awards all 803 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 1: the time. Who wins who can but but brother, the 804 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:16,839 Speaker 1: Academy awards to you may rank, but nothing that any 805 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, nothing ranks in my mind. And see 806 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 1: it just makes limited thinking. Nothing ranks higher than than 807 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. You know, if I want to 808 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 1: see another Academy awards, don't. It won't never matter the oscars. 809 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 1: It won't ever matter to me. Now it may matter 810 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 1: to to that world of people. But uh, I mean 811 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: even when when I don't watch the Hall of Fame 812 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 1: in its entirety, you see, got guys in this league 813 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 1: that you admired as players. You look at the Basketball 814 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, that's a joke. The Baseball Hall of Fame. Uh, 815 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 1: now they got issues because they want to hold it 816 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: against guys who you steroids, even though the media knew 817 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 1: they used steroids and the holders knew they used steroids. 818 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: But now you want to be so righteous. Well, we 819 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 1: still got some integrity there with the football Hall of Fame, 820 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 1: and I just want to keep it. Yeah. You know 821 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 1: that's why people saying when they you should be in there, 822 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,279 Speaker 1: this guy should be in there. I'm like, they never 823 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: put nobody in there that one deserving. You can argue 824 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 1: that in the basketball. You can argue that in baseball, 825 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: but you cannot argue that in football they do it 826 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: the right way for sure. That a fellows. I'm sorry. 827 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 1: I gotta go do something for the undrafted rookies, you know, 828 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,359 Speaker 1: pep them up and get them hopes that they may 829 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 1: be a Hall of Fame without it. But he care, Nate, 830 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. We're gonna take one quick break. 831 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 1: Do we have a show and after this next one 832 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 1: of being uh Oxnard? All right, so we should we 833 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: all just take our shirts off right now? See yeah, yeah, 834 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: you first appreciate it, Nate. We'll see you an oxyard 835 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 1: and we will see you when we come right back. 836 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: I'll hang boy. 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Are att dot 874 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 1: com s left Samsung Creep with Dulaperture supports F one 875 00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: five Mode two Former two laperatours installed on the rearca 876 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 1: back hanging with the bulls back without Nate. Nate had 877 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 1: to go. We have a rookie luncheon that they're doing 878 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 1: this year where all the rookies, uh, they have some 879 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 1: I guess former players talk to them and we'll have 880 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 1: coverage over on social media and we'll have yeah, well 881 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,320 Speaker 1: we'll have a we're not gonna stream it live, but 882 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,359 Speaker 1: we'll have some social media stuff around it, and then 883 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 1: we'll think they'll they're gonna film it, and then we'll 884 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,840 Speaker 1: have an edited video up probably sometime today or tomorrow. 885 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: Are you someone talking to them about social media? I 886 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 1: don't know sure exactly what they're doing over there. They 887 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 1: should because we will see it does yeah, but I 888 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 1: don't think it's part of this thing. I think that's 889 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 1: a separate rookie symposium or something. Yeah, dangerous. Well, I've 890 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 1: got to go to the bathroom really bad. We should 891 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,799 Speaker 1: have just quit when we should have, And I was gonna, well, 892 00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,880 Speaker 1: here's the reason why I'm sharing this, because I was 893 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 1: actually really gonna do a segment and try to make 894 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 1: it through. But the longer I stand here with my 895 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 1: legs crossed, the more I think it's a good idea 896 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 1: just to shut this down. About six minutes earlier, profession 897 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 1: a little bit, I gotta go like it. I don't 898 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 1: know why, but it just right when the microphone came 899 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 1: back up and the welcome just back to the show. 900 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,320 Speaker 1: I know it didn't have to go until now. Douglas 901 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,640 Speaker 1: what let him go to the bathroom? And in the 902 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 1: show early I guess so, and I guess so. I 903 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 1: had a lot of important stuff to say. Well, you 904 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 1: can do it. I'll go to the bathroom all right. Well, Douglas, yes, 905 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 1: thanks for showing up today. I know you were. Good 906 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:40,919 Speaker 1: luck on your cat scan tomorrow. You want to part? Yeah, 907 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 1: what's the funny part? There was nothing fun. Oh well, Kurt, 908 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 1: thanks for showing it you. Nate is gone, but thanks 909 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,319 Speaker 1: Nate for bringing it. Douglas. I guess we will talk 910 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,840 Speaker 1: to you. Are you producing while we're out in the now? 911 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,839 Speaker 1: I'll be here okay, so it'll be our man Kent 912 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 1: who we'll do a fantastic job. All right. Well, gotta go. 913 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming to hanging the boys. See. This has 914 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 915 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:10,799 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Football Club.