1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Hang in there. Fifteen minutes from now, another keyword will 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: be heard and you have a chance that a thousand 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: dollars the CAFI cash refilled contest continues. Well, yesterday we 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: talked about this and we decided it was worth getting 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: a guest on to explore it further. Back in twenty twenty, 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: when the whole panic over the COVID nineteen began to 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: consume the entire country, the city of la and the 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: county got really worked up over dining, indoor dining, outdoor dining. Eventually, 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: they did allow people restaurant owners to set up outdoor 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: dining with an al fresco program, and they waived a 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: lot of the bureaucracy, the paperwork, the months of approval 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: to get these people on the fast track to save 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: their restaurants. Well, now here we are in twenty twenty three, 14 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: and now they want to go back and sort of 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: do a reset with all this and put people through 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: all the red tape of applying for an outdoor dining permit. 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: So all these restaurants already had their tables, their chairs, 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: their heaters, there are partitions up. The city now wants 19 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: them to reapply for a permanent permit and spend tens 20 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars for something that already exists and 21 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: is working really well and isn't bothering anyone. We're going 22 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: to talk to Eddie Navarette, executive director of the Independent 23 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: Hospitality Coalition. They advocate for and support independent restaurants. All right, Eddie, 24 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. How are you? I'm great, Thanks 25 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: guys for taking the thought. What the heck is this about? Like? 26 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 1: If I have a restaurant, right and I already got 27 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: patio seating and everything's fine, it's sidewalk, it's alley ways, 28 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: or it's parking lots. Now what do I have to 29 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: do and how much do I have to pay? Well, 30 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: the ordinance or the subordinances really haven't been clearly defined 31 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: or set in stone vetted through city council yet, but 32 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: currently the DROPT proposal is awful where it's going to 33 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: make us have to apply for in most cases that 34 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: these operators have alcohol can assumption, are going to have 35 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: to go through kind of a monstrous city planning application 36 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: which takes about a year, cost twenty thousand dollars in 37 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: application fees. You got to hire professionals to do the work. 38 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 1: You got to go to the neighborhood meetings and several 39 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: other things just to start. You know, it really depends 40 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: on what type of seating or having. They have different 41 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: ordinances or rather different processes for depending on the seat 42 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: that you're having, whether it be private property, whether it 43 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: be on the sidewalk, or whether it be on the street. 44 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: So you know, really these operators don't really have a 45 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: fighting chance. I'm really to have to navigate through any 46 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: of this stuff, and so hopefully, you know, we're looking 47 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: to have one place where people can go and have 48 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: it all to explained for them instead of kind of 49 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: just you know, wrap nest of the labyrinth that you 50 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: have to go through to figure out how you're going 51 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: to get your permit. I'm really I'm really baffled by this. 52 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: These might sound like stupid questions, but I just don't 53 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: know this world. Well, let's say I've got a restaurant 54 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: and I have eight tables out on the sidewalk. All right, 55 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: eight tables? I got about the thirty two chairs? What 56 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: am I putting down on the applection? And why do 57 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: I need a business consultant? And why do I have 58 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: to pay tens of thousands of dollars. It's like, weok, 59 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: here's a photo. We got eight tables, we got thirty 60 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: two chairs, we got a half a dozen heaters. What 61 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: else is there to explain? You know? I mean, I think, 62 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: like you said, you know, the out Frescoe program showed 63 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: that we don't need to have a lot of things, 64 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: and unfortunately, you know, some of these permit processes are 65 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: going to require us to have to draw a plan 66 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: up and show that we're complying with any kind of 67 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: you know, a handicap requirements or firelife safety requirements or 68 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: maybe some other building provision requirements that they think that 69 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: we need to go through, even though you know, we've 70 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: been existing like this way for a long time. So 71 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: all those processes actually necessary, and I think it's obvious 72 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: that they're not. Well yeah, I mean, some of these 73 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: restaurants have had this set up for almost three years now, 74 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: and they're worried about disability requirements when they allow thousands 75 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: of tents to block sidewalks all over the city. Really 76 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: they're worried about wheelchair access. It's a really good point, 77 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: but I think that there's ways that we can mitigate 78 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: the city's concerns with clear documentation, clear guidelines. The City 79 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: of San Francisco. Yeah, City of San Francisco is doing 80 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: it way better than LA is doing it. They get 81 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: they put together a manual that give you clear diagrams 82 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: of how you comply with these very simple things of 83 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: handicapped compliance or firelight safety, or maybe it's access to 84 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: you know, some utility polled. This give us the guided 85 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: This tell us that we need to do. But really 86 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: we're getting handed a black and white document that gives 87 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: us no guidance and there's no direction except go to 88 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: this awful process that we don't even know what power works? 89 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: Is this just a money grab? They make up something 90 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: stupid and complicated that's unnecessary, just money, an excuse to 91 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: charge you twenty thousand dollars. I'm really glad you brought 92 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: that up, because I actually don't think that that's what 93 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: it is. These processies generally cost the city more to do. 94 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: Then it's uh, then it's they're getting their moneys from 95 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: the operators that are why why does it cost if 96 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: you just show them, you know, the layout plan for 97 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: the sidewalk, didn't you just have to look at and say, okay, 98 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: I see you got enough room there for people to 99 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: walk back and forth. All right, that's cool, go home. 100 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: I don't get really, I really don't get it, Like, 101 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: what is it you need these city employees to do? 102 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: What are they searching for here? Well, you know, there's 103 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: there's a disconnect between the city officials that run the 104 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: city at opposed to the city department officials and city 105 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: department officials. They're really giving a competive interest to the lawmakers, 106 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: to the council people about you know, how these things 107 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: are working and how well they're working, you know, and 108 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: we're never really bringing to the conversation that restaurants bring 109 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: in the most sales tax within all California, which is 110 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: generally all of that money goes right back in the 111 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: city and county infrastructure. And it's just really, you know, 112 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: they make it a much different argument again at the 113 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: confelative interests and how they're telling their city officials, you know, 114 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: I council members of how successful their regulation is going. 115 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: I mean, one restaurant or said it can take two 116 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: years and involved at least seven different department approvals to 117 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: get to get this dining prem And that's ridiculous. I 118 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: really wish that guys like me didn't have to exist, 119 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: you know, And that's really the goal here. This is 120 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: really about a culture or reflection of this ordinance that 121 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: we've been fighting for that we all showed up for 122 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: last night. Successfully was beautiful to see all of a 123 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: restaurant get together, and you know, it's really just a 124 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: reflection of the culture that exists in the eighty two 125 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: cities of an Ela County. I mean, I just don't 126 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: get it. It's like I had birthday parties for my kids, 127 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: right We'd have twenty kids over and their parents, and 128 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: you set up all the tables in the backyard and 129 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: put out a tablecloth and and and the chairs for everybody. 130 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: I didn't know I needed a city inspector to look 131 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: over my plans and that I needed to pay twenty 132 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: thousand dollars for the simple act of setting up tables 133 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: and chairs. I find this one of the most ludicrous 134 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: things I have ever heard about, period. I mean, as 135 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: nutty as government is, this really takes the cake. Don't 136 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: even get me started, because really there's a lot of different, 137 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, inequity that exists in our city regulation and 138 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: county regulation areas. They really have this idea of shoot 139 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: first and then ask questions later, or regulate first and 140 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: then and without applying it on any kind of factual data. 141 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: Just like the closure that we have to go through 142 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: the regulate, it's like regulating somebody's dining room at Thanksgiving. 143 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: Put it where you gonna put the extra tables in 144 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: chairs because the cousins are coming over. What's to complicated? 145 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: What's to regulate? Yeah, I don't know. So if you're 146 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: under the end of finest Eddie. There was talk that 147 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: they might grandfather in some of these that got the 148 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: permits a couple of years back, or well, I mean 149 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: that's what we're hoping for. I mean really at the 150 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: end of the day, we're looking to have some some 151 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: real seats at the table here on how we're going 152 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: to move forward to the permits. We want to be 153 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: able to address the concerns that they may have, whether 154 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: it be firelife, ada, whatever it is. We can do that, 155 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: but we have to do it together. We just can't 156 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: have them, you know, have these back room conversations between 157 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: their departments and just release the documents saying this is 158 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: what we're going to do. There just have to be 159 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: more transparent, the process transparenty the process that have to have. 160 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: The restaurants are part of that that process. All right, Eddie, 161 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. We appreciate it, and keep up 162 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: with us. If you need any more publicity, if you 163 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: have any more twists and turns here, just let us know, 164 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: all right, I definitely will. I really appreciate you guys 165 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: standing up for us. Thank you. Now. It's Eddie Navarette, 166 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: executive director of the Independent Hospitality Coalition. They advocate and 167 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: support the independent restaurants who are facing it's not done yet, 168 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: but a whole new permitting thing to try to do 169 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: their outdoor dining. Basically, they just have to start over. 170 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: I talked to some of the people who run the 171 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: restaurants I go to in my neighborhood. It has been 172 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: so difficult, so difficult, and the only thing that saved 173 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: a lot of them was outdoor dining. Once they were 174 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: able to put as many tables as possible and they 175 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: spread them in the parking lots and the alleyways, the sidewalks, 176 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: the streets and completely changed their lives. Otherwise, a lot 177 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,079 Speaker 1: of a lot of restaurants did go out of this this, 178 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: but a lot more would. A god, and I don't 179 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: know what why does the city want to risk that revenue. 180 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 1: Why do they want to torture people's lives? What is 181 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,599 Speaker 1: wrong with the bureaucrats who work in government? What is 182 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: who were these people as children? All right? Coming up 183 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: next your chance of money. Another keyword will be revealed 184 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: for a shot at a thousand dollars. John and Ken 185 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: caf I am six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio 186 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: app wonderful. All right, Well, here's a story that's supposed 187 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: to make you feel really sad. Makes me more feel 188 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: really kind of angry for the stupid government we were 189 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: just talking about in the city of Los Angeles going 190 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: to make restaurant people maybe start over with outdoor dining 191 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: permitting process, which can be cumbersome and expensive. This time 192 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: we turn our attention to the County Department of Public Services. 193 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: Apparently there's been a big rise in theft off of 194 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: people's EBT cards. What's an EBT card? EBT stands for 195 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: Electronic Benefit Transfer, how you get your welfare food stamps. 196 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: John is right, they gave it a fancy name and 197 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 1: they switched over their cards. It looks like you're just 198 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: using a credit card to cover up it's you know, 199 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: the government handouts that are working people. So it's a 200 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: debit card that they load up with your benefits every month. Well, 201 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: the amount of people stealing from those cards has jumped 202 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: dramatically in the last year. Almost a million dollars was 203 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: stolen in twenty twenty one in La County. It was 204 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: just a few hundred thousand a year before that. They 205 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: do it with a skimmer device. These are difficult to 206 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: spot devices get can attached to legitimate card readers. They're 207 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: placed on card machines and locations that people go to 208 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: convenience stores, ATMs, gas stations. When shoppers make a purchase 209 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: with their EBT card at one of these machines, the 210 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: skimmer retains both the card number and the pin. So 211 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: what they do next is they make up a fake 212 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: card with your card number and pin and they go 213 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: steal your money. They might go to a bank and 214 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: just take it out. The modern credit cards now have chips, 215 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: and those are the chips that you could do that 216 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: the tapping maneuver with. Yeah, it's right, and it reads 217 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 1: the chip and it bypasses a skimmer. That's why these 218 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: are years old. All my credit cards now have the chip. Yeah, yeah, 219 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: it's it's It wasn't invented yesterday. It's been around for 220 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: a number of years, and that should reduce Well, now 221 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: skimmers are are useless, right because you're not You're not 222 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: sliding your card anymore, so there's nothing to skim. It 223 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: just electronically transmits the information from the chip. These cards 224 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: they've been using have the old magnetic strips. And here's 225 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: the part that will really really fry you. They think 226 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: to switch over and get the cards with chips, it's 227 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: going to take up to thirty months. Does not seem 228 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: that's two and a half years. Yeah, how could this 229 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: be so hard? And how you didn't know this was 230 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: coming the rest of the world, the private world, the 231 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: credit card but this years ago because they never ever 232 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: spend money on anything useful, like upgrading their technology, like 233 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: like the DMV, like to pay off the unemployment claims. 234 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: Every every story is like, oh, well you only have 235 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: a forty year old computer system here that's out or 236 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: I don't I do that anymore? Stop bad. I got 237 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: I got scammed once with a credit card. They must 238 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: have put a skimmer, and I think it was a 239 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: gas station. I went to their credit card with a 240 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 1: bank that was kind of questionable. It wasn't one of 241 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: the big banks. I'm not even gonna say what card 242 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: it was. It was like one of the areas we 243 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: just funked airline And within a day or two, people 244 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: were buying all sorts of goods from Apple stores in 245 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: Las Vegas on a card. I'm like, what they made 246 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: up a fake card because they had skimmed my information. Yeah, 247 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: Apple ab is on Best Buy electronics stores. There. There 248 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: was a gas station in Sarasota, Florida. We used to 249 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: go to Sarasoda every year at spring break so the 250 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: kids could see their grandparents, my wife's parents, and every 251 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: year I stopped at a gas station on Route forty 252 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: one near their house. And every year, by time I 253 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: got home to La there'd be false credit card charges 254 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: on my visa every year, and it was the same right, 255 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: and I would forget about it. I'd go to the 256 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: same station, get skimmed by the same device, and get 257 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 1: the same set of phony charges. I just felt like 258 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: an idiot, because you know, twelve months go by and 259 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: you got that part of that's on you though, Oh 260 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: it is on me, No, it is on me. It's like, oh, 261 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: come on, finally, one year. You know, I finally figured 262 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: this out. I wouldn't go near the place year. You 263 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: don't because clearly if they got away with it for 264 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: them for that long, they're gonna keep doing it. Uh. 265 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: The air's won for the stereotype bus of the big 266 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: Operation Bust. Prosecutors arrested sixteen people at five eight TMS 267 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: who were using these phony cards to rob people's ept cash, 268 00:13:54,720 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: all of the Romanian nationals, those Eastern Europeans. There's a 269 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: lot of Eastern European fraud. I don't know what that is. 270 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: They confess gave you over three hundred fake cards and 271 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: over one hundred and thirty thousand dollars in cash at 272 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: this little gang had taken because the Eastern European countries 273 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: that was a hotbed of criminal ripoff for the unemployment 274 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: benefits during COVID, A lot of that money was going 275 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: Eight they arrested. This is great. All were charged with 276 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: theft using a fraudling card. Eight pleaded no contests, were 277 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: sentenced to a monthly community service. The rest never showed 278 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: up in court. They supposedly returned to Romania. Supposedly, yeah, yeah, yeah, 279 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: they had they get in most of their people are 280 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: traveling to the region, specifically from Romania, to commit EBT fraud. 281 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: So the words getting back there that you can come 282 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: to La County because they still use strips. Some guy 283 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: comes back, tells a scarer device in a poor neighborhood. Yeah, 284 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: on an ATM or on a convenience store check register 285 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: or whatever machine. Yeah, go to California. Stupid government. In California, 286 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: you can make thousands and thousands of dollars before your 287 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: visa expires. Yeah, and they need this story and find 288 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: out that chips could be two and a half years away. 289 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: Keep coming and they don't put you in jail. You 290 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: go to California, steal thousands of dollars, they don't punch 291 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: as a low level non violent felony. You don't even 292 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: have to show up in court another day. We'll let 293 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: you know. We're gonna know. I'm gonna turn into Romania. 294 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: I'll see you. So a plane lands from Romania. Five 295 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: hundred scammers come off the plane, and the story in 296 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: the Times is predictively full of people that lost money 297 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: on the REBT cars. It's only that their fault because 298 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: if they don't have that chip, it's what can they do? 299 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: They well, you might want to go to work and 300 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: earn money instead of waiting for the government to help you. 301 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: Because the government is so incompetent, you're gonna get your 302 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: money stolen, and good luck getting it back. All right. 303 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: When we return, a lot of people are complaining about 304 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: their high gas bills, natural gas bills. We'll talk about 305 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: the update on that. Johnny Ken I AM six forty 306 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: Live Everywhere the I Heart Radio app. The Big Game 307 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: is this Sunday, featuring a Philadelphia in Kansas City coverage 308 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: beginning at eleven AM. Kickoff at three thirty on your 309 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: home of The Big Game AM five seventy LA Sports, 310 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: brought to you by MGM Rewards unlock the best of 311 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: Las Vegas. Visit MGM rewards dot com for details. Se 312 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: commal Big Game. If you're not giving a commercial, you 313 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: can call it the Super Bowl. You know how yesterday 314 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: Deborah Mark and you ever was gonna do the pink 315 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: pigeon story. Yes, I knew today you were going to 316 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: do the nine year old mouse story. I knew you 317 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: were going to sneak that into your newscast. You did. Huh? 318 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: Also not high on my hierarchy of mouse rat Yeah, 319 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: you have to write down the hierarchy. A nine year 320 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: old mouse, and where is this mouse being kept? How 321 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: do they know it's nine? Do you have a birth Yeah, 322 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: that's a very good question. I don't know. Somebody has 323 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: raised the mouse from birth? They know that he's nine 324 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: or she or it? Well, yeah, I guess they do. 325 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: They probably got it as a baby. Yeah. What was 326 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: the story I saw last week? Maybe you missed a 327 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: two that there was a there's a dog that's in 328 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: the Guinness Books for being thirty years old. Yeah, I 329 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: think that was the thirty years old nineteen ninety two 330 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: the dog was born. Yeah, he must be tired. He 331 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: still stands up. He's sort of blind in one eye. Yeah, 332 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: I read him. He's cute. I forget his name, but 333 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: he's Guinness Book his dog ever, Oh, I hope my 334 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: dogs can beat that. And he's not small. That's what 335 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: surprised me. He was a sizeable dog. I thought, you know, 336 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: the rule of thumb is a smaller dogs live longer. 337 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: So Debra Marks will be around a while. But I 338 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: don't have good luck when it comes to oh, your 339 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: dogs have died young? Yes, well, well don't cancer. It's cancer. 340 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: I have nothing to do with cancer. You don't, Fernando, 341 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: chemical plant, God, who knows. But every one of my 342 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: dogs has had cancer. Oh wow, is that I know? Yeah? 343 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: Mostly Yeah, and they all had to be put down. Oh, Ken, 344 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna make me cry. Yeah, we had family dogs. 345 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: I don't remember any cancer. John's dogs didn't have cancer either, right, No, 346 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: my dogs go insane? Well why he ends up getting 347 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: rid of them before they die or no, before they 348 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: kill one of us. Yeah, we had to send We 349 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: actually sent one to like a mental farm. Seriously, it 350 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: just couldn't handle it. Yeah. Yeah, the one that bit you, 351 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: the one that bit me was really a bit a 352 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: lot of being really nutty. I don't know how we 353 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: didn't get sued. This thing? Was it? You should have, Ken, 354 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: What did you do to this dog to make it 355 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: so aggressive? Oh? No, it was it was in gredge. 356 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: I walked into the house, into their kitchen to pick 357 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: up John to go somewhere, and it just leapt it me. 358 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: You know how? You know how long it took me 359 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: to train her to do that? Do that? I used 360 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: to show pictures of Can laughing. Did you laugh when 361 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: the dog bit Can? Or were you hiding it? No? No, 362 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: they were all shocked. I remember the ther faces like, 363 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: oh my god, there was so we gave it to 364 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: a guy who rehabs dogs meant like mentally disturbed dogs. Serious. 365 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: He had a big farm, and he told us that 366 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: he had the dog for a short time and she 367 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: bit his eighteen month old childs on the sum No foul. 368 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: That's worse than me. Yeah. Yeah, And I don't know 369 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: what he did. I didn't care at this point. Put 370 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: her down. He brought to kill somebody. He brought the 371 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: dog back to our neighborhood, to a park so we 372 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: could meet the dog again. About a year later. I 373 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: never heard this. Yeah, I don't know why, but um, 374 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: and she bit everyone she can remember anybody she didn't 375 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,479 Speaker 1: carry out. Well, she's pissed at you, guys. You got 376 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: rid of vers. She looked at me and she ran 377 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: away and all right, thanks. A long line of people 378 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: have done that. All right. Well, this story should once 379 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: again bring us back to the fact that if you 380 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: are living in California, there's something they want to get 381 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: rid of. Obviously, driving your gas powered car has been key. 382 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: That's why when gas prices go up, despite the lip 383 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: service we get from the politicians in the hand out 384 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: little inflation buster checks. They don't really care because they 385 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: want to stop using gas. Now. The other thing they 386 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: want you to use is natural gas. So I'm talking 387 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: to people who are looking at their SoC gas bills. 388 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: They can't believe it. They've tripled. In some cases, SoCal 389 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: gas customers are getting hit with three hundred dollar bills 390 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: compared to one hundred and twenty three dollars last year. 391 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: What are the reasons for this, Well, does it really matter? 392 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: California pipes and ninety percent of the natural gas it 393 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: uses from elsewhere and according to but here's the thing, 394 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: while we were having high natural gas prices, the rest 395 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: of the country was not, So once again we got 396 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: that unique market thing hanging over us. I really, I 397 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: almost believe it's a plot that First Aid wants you 398 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: to use gas in your car. They don't want you 399 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: to use natural gas in your home. Oh it is 400 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: a plot. No, no, it is. We have plenty of 401 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: natural gas underground in California. Oh yeah, we could extract it, right, 402 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: but they don't extract it. But law they won't let 403 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: any of the energy companies extract the natural gas. Instead, 404 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: everything is pumped in from a thousand miles away, and 405 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: they had some problems with the Pike pipeline out of 406 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: West Texas, and so the gas prices here are spiked 407 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: up to the heavens and everywhere else they're not having 408 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: a problem. But it's not purpose because they won't they 409 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: won't drill for the oil and gas here that we have. 410 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: All they're gonna do is give you your climate credit 411 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: a couple of months early to help reduce the high 412 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: bill you're getting this month. And they're saying that next 413 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: month bill shouldn't be as bad. This might be temporary. 414 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: And by the way, if one of these climate fanatics, 415 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: we're using the same amount of natural gas, it doesn't 416 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: matter where it comes from. We can drill for a 417 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 1: heat or they can drill for it in Texas. Right, 418 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: it's the same amount of gas used and burned. All 419 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: we're doing is ending up paying an exorbitant amount of 420 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: money for the transportation costs. This is I can't understanding about. 421 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm worried about climate change and global warming. So no 422 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: more oil and gas drilled here, you dummy. The stuff 423 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: that we're using, that they're drawing for in Texas, it 424 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: goes into the atmosphere too. It's all the same atmosphere, 425 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: your bozo, What is work? Is anybody educated anymore? Is 426 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: everybody an idiot? So I can imagine there's gonna be 427 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: a lot of bill shock, especially the last couple of 428 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: months have been chilly in the morning. A lot of 429 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: people have probably been turning on the heat in their home, 430 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: which a lot of it comes from natural gas, So 431 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: that's gonna boost the bills. I just got a message 432 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: that I'm getting that I'm getting fifty dollars the climate credit, 433 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: and my bill is over five hundred dollars. And I 434 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: hardly had the heat on. I shivered even when I 435 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: had COVID. I was so cold and I didn't want 436 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: you need to eat that would warm you up. No, 437 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: it was freezing, and so for hardly using it at all. No, 438 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: we had a big one like that too, and we've 439 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: kept the heat off the whole winter. It's about sixty 440 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: two degrees in our house. Yeah, so now I put 441 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: it up to sixty seven for about an hour because 442 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm given them that it's for the stove and maybe 443 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: to heat up your shower, your water heater. But you 444 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: know what else would you have use it? For so 445 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: you're still using it for something, but it still seems 446 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: like a high price if you cut back the heating 447 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: is I think I thought the heating would be the biggest. 448 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: I have never seen a price spike like this in 449 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: my life for the gas. That's why I think the 450 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: fix is in. Yeah, it is, it is. This is 451 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: what they're doing. They want you to go electric. What 452 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: you know what they're talking about. Oh, this is bad 453 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: news for the people in Porter Ranch. Maybe putting more 454 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: natural gas into Aliso Canyon. Remember the gas leak of 455 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. Yeah, yeah, that's what they're talking about here. 456 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: Maybe we need to raise the capacity and Aliso Canyon 457 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: that's not good days. But I mean the people up 458 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: there want it closed. Well no, because they that that 459 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: thing is so badly it's damaged and old and rod 460 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: that pipeline was like they hadn't changed something in it 461 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: in somebody years or whatever. It was some problem with 462 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: nobody can do anything right. Well, the point is we 463 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: always talk about where people do things wrong. So it's 464 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: not like nobody ever does anything right. No, nobody ever 465 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: does anything right. You want me to do one show 466 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: where we just do all the right stories, Well, we'll 467 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: run out of material in eight minutes that we might 468 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: might by ten. After one we're done. Final little heads up. 469 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: The moist line is tomorrow. You still have some time 470 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: to leave a message using the iHeartRadio app. The microphone 471 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: icon is how you access the message for the moistline, 472 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: or called the Tell three number one eight seven to 473 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: seven moist eighty six one eight seven seven six six 474 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: four seven eight eight six. Well, this story pops up 475 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: from time to time. We're gonna play a report from 476 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: ABC seven reported by the name of Michelle Fisher. What's 477 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: really weird about it is that the same woman was 478 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: out there and able to record this happening with the 479 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: Tesla driver. Now twice, let's hear the report. She is 480 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: out sleeping, completely knocked out, and this car is driving her. 481 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: Look at how dangerous that is. This video is driving 482 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: the internet wild. It went out. I'm local to national, 483 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: to global. A woman behind the wheel of a white 484 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: Tesla asleep in traffic along the fifteen freeway north into Mecula. 485 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that is too damn dangerous. Sleeping and this 486 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: car is driving you? Are you nuts? That's Kiki Dola's 487 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: who captured the moment on her cell phone around four 488 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: o'clock last Thursday. At first we thought, you know, it 489 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,479 Speaker 1: was a health issue or something, because she was kind 490 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: of slum. It was just kind of riding along a 491 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: side of us, you know, it would accelerate a little 492 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: and then slow down, even when there wasn't that many 493 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 1: cars ahead of it. For more. In fifteen minutes, Dolas 494 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: and her husband honked, attempting to get the driver's attention 495 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: before calling the police, who were eventually able to pull 496 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: the driver over. To actually be sleeping and trust your 497 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: whole life, you know, for a car to just drive 498 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: you is just astonishing to me how anybody would do. 499 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: A Tesla is currently under investigation over its autopilot system 500 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: after dozens of crashes and as more carmakers steered toward 501 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: autonomous vehicles. Autoexperts say, pump the brakes. It's going to 502 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: be here one day, if you know, the automakers perfect 503 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: all of this technology, but right now, our research shows 504 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: that drivers would prefer that these automakers focus on the 505 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: current advanced driver's system systems make them full proof before 506 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: moving on to self driving. Not and Ki told me 507 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: she was contacted by HP later and they confirmed that 508 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: there was no medical emergency, that woman was in fact 509 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: asleep behind the wheel. We also reached out to CHP 510 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: for more on the driver, also possible charges of some 511 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: sort or some type of citation, but tonight we have 512 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: not yet heard back. Yeah, what did get charge? Somebody 513 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: who's driving all asleep? I can't two things. I can't 514 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: believe who would do this? Who would I mean unless 515 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: you're really, really just so fatigued that you actually fell 516 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: asleep without you know, you've had those times, right, John, 517 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: You drive late at night when we were younger, and 518 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: we drive from our terrible radio home back to our 519 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: home state. A couple of times I nodded off. But 520 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: but it almost looks like some of these people are 521 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: purposely knowing all, I can't get a nap on the 522 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: way to work, let's put the card self drive more. 523 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: They actually trust the technology. That's yeah. I could not 524 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: see that. It would make me so freaking nervous. I could. Well, 525 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: I've been in a couple of cars when they had 526 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: the self driving the I'm just leaning forward like watching 527 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: because get those hands close to the wheel there. Now, 528 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: this was the second time she Yeah, apparently this woman 529 00:27:54,840 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: has has videoed two people doing this in the last week. Really, Yeah, 530 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: that's weird. Maybe she's looking forward, or maybe it's just 531 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 1: popular where she's driving. This was the fifteen freeway into Macula. 532 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: I don't know where the other occurrence was, but she 533 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: has apparently recorded to people doing this in a week. 534 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: I've seen reports where Elon Musk sends out the software 535 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: updates to Tesla's automatically right, and now your Tesla can 536 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: do things like this, It can do the automatic driving. 537 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: This is not run through the government like data for 538 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: all the regulation they do, like they're trying to regulate 539 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: outdoor dining, apparently hardly any regulation on the Tesla autonomous 540 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: driving system. He said. The other thing it does is 541 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: but you have to have your hands on the wheel 542 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: within a certain few seconds or else it's going to 543 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: move out of self driving mode. So I don't know 544 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: if this woman was keeping her hands there on the 545 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: wheel while she dozed off, I couldn't tell. But that's 546 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: one of the safety measures. But I I guess it 547 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: doesn't work. We're seeing this story like several times a 548 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: year now, somebody completely passed out behind the wheel of 549 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: the Tesla on a freeway. Conway doesn't show asleep. That's right, 550 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: that's right. But occasionally I wake up. You know, I'm 551 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: not out for the whole three hours. The only three 552 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: hours I sleep is during your show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 553 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Alex Stone's coming on talk about Southwest Airlines 554 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: that de baccle over Christmas. Then Dean Sharpe is coming 555 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: on as well to talk about the Southwest airlines, and 556 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: then Neil Savager's coming on to talk about Southwest Airlines. 557 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: If you want, I'll call it and talk about Southwest Airlines. 558 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: Did you get hammered by that, either one of you 559 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: over or not. You don't. I gave up that airline 560 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: a long time ago. Yeah, I'm with you, Ken, you 561 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: never go anywhere. It's a cattle call. I don't know. 562 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm getting to the point where I think I need 563 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: an assigned seat. Yeah, that's right. I was big on 564 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: Southwest up to about five six years ago, and then 565 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: had a couple of experiences where that you know, they 566 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: canceled a flight in like five minutes before we were 567 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: supposed to board. Well, plus, you get nervous lying because 568 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: you never know where you're going to get a seat, 569 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: take with your wife, or you can pay to be 570 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: in the first group, right, they Yeah, but I was 571 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: trying to get out of here to go with my 572 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: son to Arizona some baseball thing, and we had to 573 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: be somewhere by eight o'clock in Phoenix that night. So 574 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: we had like an eight am flight, and they kept 575 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: getting canceled, postponed, and I'm on the phone and I'm 576 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: rebooking and rebooking again, and finally left at a Burr 577 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,959 Speaker 1: bank like six hours eight hours later on They got 578 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: there in time, and I you know, they they they've 579 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: always had a screwed up system of keeping their schedule 580 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: on time. And once they have a problem early in 581 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: the day's dominoes and they never catch up. You could 582 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: have driven to Arizona in that time, I know, and 583 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: I do now. Yeah, So they're under a lot of 584 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: pressure with the government. But what airline is perfect? They're all, 585 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: that's right, that's right, But I do you know, you 586 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: get to a certain age. Look, Southwest airlines are for 587 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: people that that are not very responsible, you know, so 588 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: you know set their Yeah, Southwest the airline for a 589 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: response that's exactly right, you know, disciples the keyword. You 590 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: get hungover in Vegas, you miss your fly. They can 591 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: get the next one, you know. I think they just 592 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: canceled the ad contract on your show Fresh. I thought, 593 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: I love so enjoy them, um, but but they aren't 594 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure. So we'll talk to Alexton about that, 595 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: all right, Dang dong, dang dong with you