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Speaker 1: Happy Saturday. In our episode on Henry Martin Robert, we

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Speaker 1: talked about his building a redoubt that's a sort of

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Speaker 1: temporary usually fortification for the US Army during the Pig War.

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Speaker 1: So today's classic is our episode on the Pig War,

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Speaker 1: which came out all the way back almost ten years

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Speaker 1: ago on April ninth, twenty fourteen. We have a couple

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Speaker 1: of corrections for this one. San Juan Island is not

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Speaker 1: the second largest. Also, nobody went through the Panama Canal

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Speaker 1: in this episode, since that was not Billy yet they

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Speaker 1: crossed Panama over land. Those are the only mistakes I

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Speaker 1: remember from ten years ago. One can hope there were

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Speaker 1: not others. Enjoy Welcome to Stuff you missed in History Class,

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Speaker 1: a production of iHeartRadio. Hello, and welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tracy B. Wilson and I'm Holly Frye, and so

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Speaker 1: you it's funny to be. I wrote this little outline

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Speaker 1: with an introduction that begins. If you grew up in

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Speaker 1: the Pacific Northwest, or maybe in Vancouver, or especially in

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Speaker 1: the islands between them, you may have already heard about

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Speaker 1: the story we're going to talk about today, which is

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Speaker 1: the pig warm If you have tuned in thinking this

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Speaker 1: is about the Bay of Pigs invasion, I'm sorry, We're

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Speaker 1: talking about something else. However, you did grow up in

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Speaker 1: I mean I didn't do all of my growing up there.

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Speaker 1: I moved from there when I was a little over nine,

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Speaker 1: but I still have siblings there and have gone back

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Speaker 1: and right in that area like Tacoma and pwoll Up,

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Speaker 1: which is right outside Seattle, so I should have heard

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Speaker 1: been too young when I left. I missed that chunk. Well.

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Speaker 1: This was recommended as a subject listener, Katie, and it

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Speaker 1: is basically a story of how in eighteen fifty nine

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Speaker 1: the United States and Britain very nearly went to war

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Speaker 1: over an issue that seems more likely to start a

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Speaker 1: feud between Hatfield's and McCoy's, which is that an American

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Speaker 1: settler shot a Canadian pig that was rooting around in

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Speaker 1: his garden. Doesn't that sound silly? Yes? And I can

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Speaker 1: also see how that would escalate in a hatfield in McCoy. Yeah. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so that is what we are going to talk about today.

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Speaker 1: Of course, people had been living on what is now

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Speaker 1: known as San Juan Island between the mainland of Washington

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Speaker 1: and the island of Vancouver for thousands of years before

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Speaker 1: European explorers started pushing into the Pacific Northwest. So during

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Speaker 1: this sort of European exploration phase, Spain was the first

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Speaker 1: dubbed it Ela the Archipelago de San Juan. Its location

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Speaker 1: in fertile soil made it a really attractive spot for

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Speaker 1: the Spanish as well as the British and the Americans,

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Speaker 1: although Spain eventually withdrew from the area. In eighteen eighteen,

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Speaker 1: the United States and Britain signed the Anglo American Convention,

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Speaker 1: which reinforced England's control over the eastern half of Canada

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Speaker 1: So the land on San Juan Island was very rich

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Speaker 1: our Chief Seattle episode, he plays a role in that also.

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Speaker 1: And this whole thing was raising enough eyebrows in Washington,

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Speaker 1: where things got simultaneously escalated and a little silly American

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Speaker 1: Lyman Cutler was part of the American influx of settlers

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Speaker 1: Charles Griffin of Bellevue Sheep Farm fame. Cutler claimed that

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Speaker 1: quote oppressive interference, and without consulting his command or the

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