1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: with her Radio. Welcome to the second almost famous podcast 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: of the week. Hello, Ben, I'm back, ready to go. 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna jump right into this, guys. We're gonna let's 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: talk about the couples locked in right now. We've got Brandan, Serene, 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: Michael and Danielle, Tyler and Brittany, Johnny and Victoria, Aaron 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: and jennev even Logan and Kate. All of those people 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: seem pretty much safe right maybe even through Andrew and 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: jet Um Jena in there. But this episode proves that 10 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: one of these couples isn't as safe as one may 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: have thought, and that is Logan and Kate, because Hayden 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: shows up on the beach. And if you guys remember Hayden, 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: he was the one who said to Gabby during last 14 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: season that she was rough around the edges. He just 15 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: kind of see like the guy that wasn't in it 16 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: for the right reasons. I hate using that expression, but 17 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: he just kind of seemed like the villain right He 18 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: was the one who was obsessed with his golden retriever, 19 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: which we're not and we are not making fun of 20 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: him being obsessed with his Golden Retriever because I'm obsessed 21 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: with golden retrouvers when they just passed by me on 22 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: the sidewalk, their majestic, magical animals. Were obsessed with our 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: own dogs. We could not fathom our lives without them. 24 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: Um So, because his dog is sick and has cancer, 25 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,919 Speaker 1: I we understand why he would talk about the dog constantly, 26 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: and that's how he kind of enters this season of 27 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: Paradise talking about the dog. The dog is still alive. 28 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: Apparently he's put like eighty thou dollars into saving the 29 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: dog's life that he could live for next yeor nine months. Again, 30 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: not making fun of it. My parents spent tens of 31 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars saving some of our dogs in the 32 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: past for you know, I'm for a matter of months 33 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: as well, So we get it. We're not making fun 34 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: of Hayden for being in love with his dog. I'm not. 35 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: I do think six figures for another year is a lot. 36 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 1: I do think it's a shocking amount and I don't 37 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: think everybody can do that. Oh that's what I wanted 38 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: to say as well. Yeah, I don't think everybody has 39 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: that luxury in life where they're able to do that. Um, So, 40 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: you know, I do think it's a shocking number. I 41 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: don't know if it's a true number. Okay, that seems 42 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: quite astronomical. One of my dogs and my parents, my parents, 43 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: I'll say, I think there's been about ten thousand dollars 44 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: on her chemo, but she was on chemo for quite 45 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: some time getting what I'm assuming was the treatment that 46 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: this dog beginning, and it was ten thousand, which I 47 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: know is an honor, a blessing that we were able 48 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: to spend that on giving our dog about like an 49 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: extra year of life. But but eighty thousand seems like 50 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: an exaggeration. Anyway, This is not about dog care. This 51 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: podcast isn't about dog care. It's about relationships, and Hayden 52 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: is trying to get one right now with Kate, who 53 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: we thought Kate seemed pretty locked down with Logan, but 54 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: she's not. She is down to go on this date 55 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: with Hayden. Not because she feels fireworks. She doesn't really 56 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: feel sparked after their initial conversation, but she wants, just 57 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: like Eliza wanted to hear from Rodney that Logan really 58 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: wants her to stay, does not want her to go 59 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: out on this date. But because he doesn't do that, because, 60 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: like JN said yesterday's episode, because he's trying not to 61 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: be controlling, he says, you can go for it. Yeah, 62 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: this whole I don't love the language of a test. 63 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: So here's here's my fault to our conversation yesterday. I understand, 64 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: and in this situation where Eliza wants reassurance, I understand 65 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: if Kate wants reassurance. It's hard to tell. I'm sure 66 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: on the beach how interested somebody actually isn't you. You 67 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: can say all you want and you can hang out 68 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: all the time, but you want that that situation to exist. 69 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: I just don't love putting your partner, or any relationship 70 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: in that matter, friendship, parental child relationship, romantic relationship to 71 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: a test, like intentionally testing that human. I don't like 72 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: that idea. I don't think it's necessary. And so this 73 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: is where I think this one's a little different. Okay, 74 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: because she uses the word test. Yeah, she uses the 75 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: word test, and she she said yes only to make 76 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: Logan react. I don't know if Eliza necessarily just did 77 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: it simply to get Rodney's reaction because she was interested 78 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: in justin she wanted to see if there was something there. 79 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: There was some intrigue find it. Kate only said yes 80 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: to get Logan to react in some way. Uh Ben Higgins, 81 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: always realizing things, always realizing things that I didn't. I 82 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: was like, ah, yes, parallel situations. And then you're like no, 83 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: because she like is legitimately saying didn't feel much. I 84 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: didn't feel much with Hayden. But I'm gonna go on 85 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: the day anyway because basically failed the test. Yeah, I 86 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: just don't think it's healthy and and typically I'm never 87 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: going to at least in my life. One, I wasn't 88 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: good at tests in school too. I'm not good at 89 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: passing tests in life. If you have an expectation for 90 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: how I should behave, or respond or perform. One, you're 91 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: asking me to do something, be something other than who 92 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: I am as a person, So you're asking me to 93 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: perform for you. Two, I'm gonna probably not reach out expectation. 94 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: So I'm going to get in trouble either way. I'm 95 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: gonna be on the bad side of this because I'm 96 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: either going to say the wrong thing, not do enough things, 97 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: say the right thing, but yet not show enough motion 98 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: with my body language. You just having these type of 99 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: expectations feels very unhealthy. And I don't know about you, 100 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: Ash or anybody listening. When I'm dating somebody, I'm not 101 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: dating them so that they can be some version of 102 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: themselves that I want them to be. I'm falling in 103 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: love with them because I like who they are to 104 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: me at every moment, at every time, no matter what 105 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: the situation. So when I say, hey, this is a 106 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: test and this is how I hope you respond to it, 107 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: I'm pretty much asking you to be who I want 108 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: you to be, and that's not who you fall in 109 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: love with. You're not falling in love with them because 110 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: they are a robot and there your perfect version of 111 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: who they are, right right, right, right? Um. But it 112 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: also seems like in this case, Logan is trying to 113 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: he's trying to not be controlling, which is exactly what 114 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: you said in last episode. He goes, I've been on 115 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: three dates here in Paradise, so who am I to 116 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: say that she can't try another date? And is that 117 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: lodge not fair? Like is that logic not okay? Where 118 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: he's saying, wait, if we're looking at like the scales here, yeah, 119 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: I can't stop her. I don't want her to, but 120 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: I can't stop her, and so I'm not going to 121 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: try to be sitting the way of this. And I 122 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: just think this situation is very different than the love 123 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: triangle between Justin Rodney and Eliza. I think that one 124 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 1: just feels more serious. I feel like the Kate Logan 125 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: situation to me, just feels more middle schoolish and petty, 126 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: and and it feels like in middle school where the 127 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: girl that you're dating stops dating you for like a 128 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: guy that you don't think even halfway up to your quality, 129 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: just to get you upset, like just just to get 130 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: you riled up, just to see that jealousy, to feel 131 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: your jealousy, and that jealousy is the way that you 132 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, I think that that's how you're gonna feel 133 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: most loved. I don't know, Yeah, I do think it's 134 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: funny how these guys feel like they like they think 135 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: that the girl doesn't want to hear the I want 136 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: you to stay home. Every girl wants to hear I 137 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: want you to stay home. And I know that we 138 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: went through this in the last episode, but just by 139 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: saying like I would rather you be here with me 140 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: would go so far with these girls just like a 141 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: that simple statement. I wonder where. I wonder why these 142 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: guys aren't doing that. I think that's the question that 143 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: we all have to ponder. I don't think there's a 144 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: great answer to it. But but why I'm paradise now? 145 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: Does it feel like the guys do reserve those um 146 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: words and that emotion? See goes back to what I 147 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: initially started this conversation with yesterday. Trying to be cool, 148 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: trying to be too cool, trying to be too cool, 149 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: maybe trying to be cool. See, it's a combination of 150 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: both of our theories. Anyway, So, hey, didn't Kate go 151 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: on this date? And she's like very turned off by 152 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: him because he's getting sick on the zip lines and 153 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: he's scared on the zip lines and she's having the 154 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: time of her life. She's just not into him. I 155 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: don't think she was into him ever. I don't think 156 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: there was ever a chance that she was going to 157 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: be into Hayden. Uh. It didn't feel like anybody down 158 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: there really was. It kind of felt like she was 159 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: the one person that gave him the biggest runway to 160 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: ask to go on a date by saying you should 161 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: just shoot your shot. See what happens, but no, she's 162 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: not into it, and and the whole date, I don't 163 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: I kind of had an odd feeling about this date 164 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: because they're still on a date and she's doing I 165 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: t m S bad mouthing him, Like wait, this dude's sweating, 166 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: he's fearful, he's nervous. I'm not into that. And then 167 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: he starts talking about his dog and all of that, 168 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: and she is like shocked by that. It's like, why 169 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: are you still on this date? Like, leave then if 170 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna bad mouth him and you're not into it, 171 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: stopped dragging him along here. Yeah, that's so true. Jared 172 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: just walked in. Jared, who hasn't seen either of the 173 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: his episodes, goes, I have an opinion. I've seen wait 174 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: what I watched a clip hold on? I don't know. 175 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: I just heard it from the other room, and I'm 176 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: so signing in trup. But I have a passionate feeling 177 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: about this ten seconds Ben love you, buddy, um, but 178 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: it's the whole yes, uh, the whole Logan and Kate. Dude, 179 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: it's just so annoying because he chose Kate over Channa. 180 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: I still don't know why, but he did, and then 181 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: she's gonna have the audacity to say, oh, I I'm 182 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: going to not only talk to this guy on the side, 183 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: but tell him to pursue me. And when he does. 184 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: The only reason I want that is because I want 185 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: Logan to tell me not to go. And if Logan 186 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: tells me not to go, then I won't go. And 187 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: then Logan, it's understandably self aware enough to be like, listen, 188 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell her not to go on the date. 189 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be understanding and respectful. And it's like, dude, Kate, 190 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: come on, now, Kate's not a very rudiical character. Well, 191 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: it's just more like I hate that, like, oh, I'm 192 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: gonna say yes because I want you to tell me 193 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: not to go. And it's like, oh, come on, he 194 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: he already like can we not play these games? He's 195 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: known you for three days, Like it's you guys are 196 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: not in a two year relationship. Like just Kate, if 197 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: you want to be with Logan, let him know. And Logan, 198 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: if you want to be with Kate, just let them know. 199 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: Don't do this song and dance anyway. Those are my thoughts. 200 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: Love you both. I think it's a great thought. I 201 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: don't know. I like that he sat passionate, that he 202 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: feels like he needs to walk in and say, hey, 203 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: I just don't get it. And here's the deal, we 204 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: don't get it either. It's a weird scenario. It's not 205 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: a lot I'm making sense down there in Paradise right now. 206 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: This episode didn't make a lot of sense, not from 207 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: a production standpoint, not from a viewer standpoint, but from 208 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 1: a relationship standpoint. It feels like a lot of these 209 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: relationships are now back up in the air again. And 210 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I thought we were moving our 211 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: way towards engagements. Yeah, all right, well let's go towards 212 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: the other live triangle now, Allies is love triangle with 213 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: Justice and Rodney. And look, this is when the cast 214 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: gets really vocal about their thoughts and they are so 215 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: team Rodney. Michael says Rodney treated her like a gentleman. Um. 216 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: They say that he's the one that is going to 217 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: actually be serious about her, like in the real world. 218 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: Justin is not ready for this. Like Genevieve, we all 219 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: know she hates just Now. She's like, he's arrogant and 220 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: egotistical and he's not ready for commitment. It's like so 221 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: crazy how everybody who really seems to be friends with 222 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: Justin in real life, like his guy gang, you know, 223 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: the squad from Katie season. They're all like, no, we 224 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: are rooting for Rodney here. There were some parts where 225 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, like it was Andrew. 226 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: When Andrew said that that Justin was not the right pick, 227 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: that Rodney was the right pick. That made me feel like, Wow, 228 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: those guys hang out in real life all the time. 229 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: This might be a little awkward when he sees this 230 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: i TM interview. Well, I think some of it has 231 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: to do with the fact that who Rodney has been 232 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: to Eliza in Paradise and who you know, and how 233 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: committed he's been, and how considered he's been, and how 234 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: intentionally was And also I think there's a weight that 235 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: we have to consider where they saw Rodney have a 236 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: really hard conversation with ladies and they knew that that 237 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: was difficult on him and her, and that he did 238 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: it because he believed there was something with Eliza there. 239 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: And I mean, Rodney has mentioned it a few times. 240 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: You kind of mentioned it here. I wouldn't be surprised if, 241 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: amongst the men. Rodney has already been speaking like, I 242 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: think Eliza is the one for me in life. I 243 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: think she's my wife and I think we're part And 244 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: so all of a sudden to have this switch up 245 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: and these guys are like, wait. Rodney yesterday was telling 246 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: us that he thinks they might get engaged at into this, 247 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: and now she's on a date with Justin. That's crushing 248 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: for Rodney. He has so much more emotion built into 249 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: this already, and I think that's maybe where it's coming 250 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: from too. It's just, you know, I gotta protect my 251 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: buddy here, and my buddy is hurting bad. It's crazy 252 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: because Justin and Rodney are also super close, and we 253 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: don't often see the love trying with people who are 254 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: as close as them. So they do sit down and talk. 255 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: Justin tells Rodney that he's a mix of emotions since 256 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: he's going kind of like head to head with him. Um. 257 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: He says he wants to see where Rodney is at 258 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: and how awkward this is, and Rodney says that yesterday 259 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: was a roller coaster of emotions since he was excited 260 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: to see him come back, but obviously tremendously upset to 261 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: see him take Eliza out, and Justin says he's in 262 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: the same boat. Um, he doesn't want to stress out Eliza. 263 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: And then Rodney says the damage is done and this 264 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: is the situation they're in. He's not necessarily shifting on 265 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: Justin when he says that what he's almost like doing 266 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: is shifting on himself because he's like, I was the 267 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: one who should have said, please, don't go on the date, 268 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: but it's too late to do that. He she's already 269 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: gone the date with both of them, and she's now 270 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: already confused. Then Rodney and Eliza sit down and we 271 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: have a very heartfelt conversation where Rodney admits I should 272 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: have just told you to stay home, that I see 273 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: this great potential between the two of us. Um, but 274 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: I didn't want to, you know, control you. I wanted 275 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: you to like have whatever opportunity you wanted. And Um. 276 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: Rodney asked if she wouldn't have gone if he said 277 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: he didn't want her to go, and she said, no, 278 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: that's what I wanted to hear. I wanted you to 279 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: say I don't want you to go. But now she 280 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: says she needs to see how badly he wants her 281 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: and not just hear how badly he wants her, And 282 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: Rodney leaves the conversation by saying that that is something 283 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: that he can actually change, like he can actually show her. 284 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: So now it's a matter of Rodney kind of like 285 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: figuring out how to show her. And I also am 286 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: interested in that. Is that planning at home dates? Is 287 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: that not doing any interest in any other girl? What 288 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: do you think that is? Ben? I think it's I 289 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: think it's not having interest in any other girl. I mean, 290 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: I think that's obvious. Trust him so much. I mean, yeah, 291 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: I think I think And I want to ask you, 292 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: I don't even know how many weeks now they've been 293 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: in Paradise total. I don't know if this is like 294 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: week six of being down there or two and they've 295 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: just jeez, I'm gonna say that they've probably been down 296 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: there for fifteen sixteen days. This is a raw, guess. 297 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: It's so wild to me. I feel so I feel 298 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: like I've watched all sixteen days on television. You basically have. 299 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: It's almost a day for day at this season. But 300 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: I think at this point, yeah, this relationships, I just 301 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: don't they don't think there's interest elsewhere elsewhere I think 302 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: the interest is committed to I thought we were getting 303 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: farther along. We're like engagements were gonna be happening next week, 304 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: quite honestly, and so I thought these relationships were super solidified. 305 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: And I thought that, actually because in this week proved 306 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: us wrong. You asked last week on the episode, do 307 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: you think we'll see any other people show up to 308 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: Paradise or do you think we're done with the new 309 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: newbies coming on the beach? And we didn't know because 310 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: we really don't know the time frame of this season. 311 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: It's it's stretched out. Well. Obviously we've seen new people 312 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: come this week and obviously with justin last week. So, uh, 313 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: I thought we were farther along. And so I just 314 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: in my head, I've been creating these stories that we 315 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: are getting to the end of this, and I'm watching 316 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: these couples like this is the end. Remember you said 317 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: that you didn't think anybody else was coming in? Yeah, 318 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: so no, I think I think at this point, I'm 319 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: I don't know how to gauge where relationships are at 320 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: and where minds are at and if they're still interested 321 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: in dating other people, are going on other dates or not. 322 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: Because I just don't know how far along we are. Yeah, well, 323 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,239 Speaker 1: I think the next scene. I'm curious as to know 324 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: that if the next scene where Justin Eliza are making 325 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: out on one of the beach beds was filmed before 326 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: her conversation with Rodney or after. It was quite jarring 327 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: to see after the conversation, which is why I don't know. 328 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: It's totally fine if she did go and make out 329 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: with Justin right after that conversation, but I feel like 330 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: it was probably I don't know. My guess is that 331 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: it happened beforehand. It just seems like too emotional of 332 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: a conversation to go and just be like, ah, okay, well, 333 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: how brutal is it? Though? During her conversation with Rodney 334 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,479 Speaker 1: where she ends that one and says, can you give 335 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: me a hug? Oh god? Whoops? Then negate what I 336 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: just said. If she's hugging Rodney, she might be going 337 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: over and kissing Justin after that conversation. It's not good. 338 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: It's not a good sign for Rodney. It's also odd 339 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: to me. I don't know how you guys explain this 340 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: to me. It's odd to me if Eliza was really 341 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: only wanting Rodney to step up and say, hey, I 342 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: just wanted you to be here me. That's how much 343 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: I care about you. That one date with Justin, a 344 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: date that she went on not as a test, it 345 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: was out of interest in intrigue, but also in the 346 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: back of her mind hoping that Rodney would stop her. 347 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: That one date with Justin, no matter how well it went, 348 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: would cause her the next day to have a conversation 349 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: with Rodney where he says, no, I wanted you here, 350 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: and I messed up by not telling you, telling you that, 351 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: and I want this to be something so special and 352 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: all the things he was saying, that she would be 353 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: so still thrown off by him not stopping her from 354 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: going this date, that she would just um that she 355 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: that she would have no interest in Ronnie. What I'm 356 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: saying here, what I'm trying to my point is is 357 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: I think they're I think she's saying that she wanted 358 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: Rodney to stop her, but now I'm not convinced she did. 359 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: I think she wanted to go on the date with Justin. 360 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: I think she was into Justin. I think Justin showed 361 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: the beach, and I think at that from that moment forward, 362 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: she was interested in Justin and that it was right 363 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: and it was Justin on her mind. I think that 364 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: you're probably right. Rodney definitely likes her more than she 365 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: likes him, and I think she's quite torn. Yeah, I 366 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: actually I see her going back to Rodney, I think, 367 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: but I think she's going to have fun with Justin 368 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: for a little bit. I think it's kind of like 369 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: a Victoria Johnny situation. I think like, ultimately you know 370 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: where they're going to end up, but they need to 371 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: kind of fully explore the other option first. I hope. So, 372 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: I hope we have that much time again, And this 373 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: whole thing is a question of time. How much time 374 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: do they have left on the beach. We don't really 375 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: know at this point, and so it's all a question 376 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: of time. Do we have enough time for her to 377 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: explore Justin him fun with Justin? Is Rodney going to 378 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: be able to be around long enough? Like is he 379 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: gonna find a date or arose to stick around um 380 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: so that that can be explored or not. There's so 381 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: many questions with this relationship. I have a question, you 382 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: know how I was saying that Andrew and Justin and 383 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: Rodney always are hanging out in real life. Now I 384 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: got to like go look back on old footage and 385 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: see if they have if Rodney and Justin have been 386 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: hanging out since Paradise, because I think that Justin could 387 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: probably hang out with Rodney if things don't work out 388 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: with him and Eliza. But I don't think that Rodney 389 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: could hang out with Justin. No, how could you? Because 390 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: what happens in the night that Justin says, Hey, Eliza 391 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: is going to come with us tonight to the barn. 392 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: He's like, oh cool, i I'm out. Okay, Well, I'm 393 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: so curious, so curious to see where this ends up. 394 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: Next up, we have Justin and Joey, the twins that 395 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: were eliminated on not one of Gabby and Rachel's season, 396 00:21:53,880 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: come in. They're silly men. Um were you thought they were? 397 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: Is your Is your opinion changed? Yeah, it's changed. It 398 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: in this episode when they're kissing on everybody and the 399 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: dates seem to be flourishing. Now I'm going, wait, these 400 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: guys were kind of like funny and young, and you know, 401 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: they even show up to the beach and it's a 402 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: little awkward with them and Jesse and you know we've 403 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: had on the podcast where both like they're very nice. Uh, 404 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: But then they showed to the beach ash they start 405 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: talking to people and the guys are giving them no credit, 406 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: like these guys are wasting their time kind of stuff. 407 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: And then they asked, you know, um Chany and Florence 408 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: to go on these dates. Florence is all in because 409 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: she's like, I don't have anybody really here, and um 410 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: Chaney uh shockingly says yes, and Jacob is going to 411 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: be sitting back on the beach again wondering, you know 412 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: what in the world is life has became? And the 413 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: dates funny, It looks fun, it looks like a fun 414 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: day to be on the they're they're having a good time. 415 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: The underlying tone of this, though, is obviously these guys 416 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: are twenty four. The two ladies they asked to go 417 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: with them are in their thirties, and Florence has a 418 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: brother who's twenty eight, which I don't even know why 419 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: that's um relevant because because you know, she's thirties, so 420 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: of course she's gonna have a brother around that age. 421 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: But as the date progresses, we see these guys leaning 422 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: into it, having fun with it, and then the date 423 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: she's making out and so is Florence is making out 424 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: with Joey. Florence is making out with Justin. They're both 425 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: talking about the connections they have. They're talking about how 426 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: great the dates have became. Even says she hasn't had 427 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: as deep of a connection the entire time as she's 428 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: had with Joey and says that she feels totally different 429 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: about this date than the other one she's been on. So, yes, 430 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: my perception has changed. I thought they were there for 431 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: just some entertainment, for an episode, and we'd see something 432 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: silly happen. But now I'm going these guys might be 433 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: around for a bit, they might have something here. I 434 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: don't know that. Could you imagine I should leaves with 435 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: a lot of the twins. I mean, after this day, 436 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: you kind of feel like that's maybe what they're like. 437 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: Pointness towards well another fun thing to watch out for, 438 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: for sure. I bet we don't need to see them 439 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: come back. But I bet Jacob is going to be 440 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: like distraught. I bet, poor poor dude is gonna be like, 441 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what my life has became. Um, how 442 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: in the world did this happened? I was just making 443 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: fun of this dude, which, now who you know, they're 444 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: just Jacob doesn't look too good for that for you know, 445 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: being a joke and now they're taking my girl. Well, Jacob, 446 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: I don't think that he's feeling serious or should you 447 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: serious enough to still be there with her? Okay, he's 448 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: been changing ladies every week. Well this is his this 449 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: was his choice last week. So yeah, I don't know, 450 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: but this was a shocker to me. I think it's 451 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: gonna be a shocking moment for most people that watch 452 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: are gonna go. You know, the twins are here, Joey 453 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: justin coming down to the beach doing their thing, ha 454 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: ha ha, and then all of a sudden the end 455 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: of episode, we're like, oh crap, they did it. Good 456 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: for them, all right. The next big thing, the last 457 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: big thing we have to really touch on with this 458 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: episode is Aaron and Genevieve drama. Uh it's how does 459 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: it even come about? Um? They're talking about the future. 460 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: Um they both want to have like did you stress 461 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: and have a good time? And Genevieve says that she's 462 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: falling in love with Aaron and is excited to tell 463 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: him how she's feeling. So Genevieve tells Rodney that Aaron 464 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: needs to spend time with her as a couple and 465 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: not as much around the bros. And that's something that 466 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: we all know Aaron loves. Growing out. Um, Aaron talks 467 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: to the boys about animals and Aaron as Genevieve, and 468 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: she's okay, And basically she's like, I've been trying to 469 00:25:54,720 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: spend time with you, and he you could just tell 470 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: that She's like kind of starting the argument, and Aaron's like, 471 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: are you really doing this? Um? Why are you coming 472 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: at me? You know? Um? And Aaron's like, don't make 473 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 1: me feel weird for grabbing a beer with somebody and 474 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: making me feel like I'm neglecting you. And Victoria's like, 475 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: oh god, this is here, here, here, here if I goes, 476 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: and Eron's like saying that he's frustrated because he's feeling 477 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: like he's done everything right and she's making it seem 478 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: like he's doing something wrong. He's like, this is She's 479 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: the only girl that gets mad at her guy for 480 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: like having bro time. Ben, what else you have to 481 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: say about this situation? I mean, I think it goes 482 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: back to what we're talking about yesterday. Yeah, one thousand 483 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: per cents the exact same situation, but extended, extended. I 484 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: can't say who's right and wrong here. I don't. I 485 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: mean I personally, it is not something I enjoy to 486 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: be hold kind of um at a micro level, like 487 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: where I should be and what I should be doing, 488 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: especially when I'm on a beach right I'm on vacation. 489 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: I just got back from Mexico. For example, If I'm 490 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: sitting on the beach with my wife reading a book 491 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: and I just want to get up and go hang 492 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: out my buddies at the pool bar, like all it 493 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 1: takes is me telling my wife, Hey, I'm gonna hang 494 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: out with so and so at the pool bar. If 495 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: she really wanted me there and she said no, I'm 496 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: really enjoying our time here, I would say okay. I 497 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: would only say okay because that's not something that Jessica 498 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: asks of me often. I know it would be something 499 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: that she really desires and it's very special to her 500 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: that we're sitting on the beach together for whatever reason 501 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: at that moment. I wouldn't like to be always nervous 502 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: that my wife is gonna be or my girlfriend a 503 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: partner is gonna be like micro managing me and where 504 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm spending my time and who I'm spending my time 505 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: with Like that isn't like we've built in that trust, 506 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: We've built in that relationship where she knows that I'm 507 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 1: gonna try to be around and be the best partner 508 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: possible for the love languages that she needs. And then 509 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: also I'm going to use my guide time to have 510 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: guide time to like take a deep breath. So I 511 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: watched it sounds like Genevieve a little bit much. However, 512 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: I don't think Aaron's reaction was great either. I don't 513 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: think he responded in a way that was helpful and 514 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: healthy to the relationship at hand. Again, sorry guys if 515 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: you didn't listen to this rough his episode, but so 516 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: much of that content rolls over into this episode. They 517 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: do have that passion, that kind of relationship where they 518 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: fight often, but the passion gets them back together, which 519 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: depending on the people, I guess it can be healthy 520 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: or not healthy. It's probably not the healthy. I don't know, 521 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean that there's just they're like 522 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: that couple, right And at the end of the episode, 523 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: Aaron says, You're very special to me. Jenevie says, I'm 524 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: falling in love and he's falling in love with him. 525 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: She is falling in love with her too, and then 526 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: she even says that she can see a ring on 527 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: her finger at the end of this My goodness, But 528 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: yet yet, minutes earlier in the episode, she's packing her bags. 529 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: She wants to go pack her bags. Well, Victoria had 530 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: a good line there. She said, sometimes you just need 531 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: to threaten to pack your to leave and then uh, 532 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: and then everything comes back. I mean, I'm glad they're 533 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: where they're at. I get kind of going off last episode. Also, 534 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is healthy or not. I 535 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: don't know where this ends up. If this continues this 536 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: way where every other day Genevieve is starting to leave 537 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: and she wants to leave, it's just gonna take one 538 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: of those moments for her for Aaron to say go 539 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: ahead and go then and and who knows where it 540 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: ends up. It's not going to be in a good place. 541 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: Let's be honest. If you have fights like this early on, 542 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: it's not going to be easy long term. It's not 543 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: gonna be worth it long term, be exhausting. But you know, yeah, 544 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: it'd be tiring at least it is to me and 545 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: my personal preferences. For relationships. It would be exhausting. Yeah, 546 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: but that's how the episode ends. They're back together. Um, 547 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of conclusion on anything else. We 548 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: see these relationships still in flux. We see those relationships 549 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: that were strong really not at all during this episode. 550 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: And uh, Aaron and Genevieve are still going to keep 551 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: it going. We will wait and see what happens with 552 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: Justin and Joey. We don't really know, so next week 553 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: has a lot to unpack um in the four hours 554 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: that we'll be able to watch it. And I'm excited 555 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: to watch it because I do think there's some relationships 556 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: that are getting stronger that we need to pay attention to. 557 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: And I'm just super curious to see what happens with 558 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: the Eliza Rodney and Justin storyline. Really really excited and 559 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: pulling for Rodney of course. Okay, well, guys, until next week, 560 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: we love you so much and we will see you 561 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: very soon. 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