WEBVTT - Short Stuff: The Brain-Bladder Connection

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<v Speaker 1>Hey you, and welcome to the shorty short stuff, your

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<v Speaker 1>short short guy, short guys and gals. Everybody so short

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<v Speaker 1>because this is short stuff, including us, Josh, Chuck, Jerry,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all short. Are you going to make that same

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<v Speaker 1>similar type joke on all ladies? That's no joke, Chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what Randy Newman said about short people what

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<v Speaker 1>I got no reason to live? Remember what? You don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that song? You know that that just took like

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<v Speaker 1>such a left turn. I was not expecting that. Shall

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<v Speaker 1>people got no reason? Really, man, that was a that

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<v Speaker 1>was a top ten hit. My friend, You're crazy when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, I mean, I had to be the seventies. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>look it up. The only top ten hit of his

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<v Speaker 1>that I know is um I Love l A, we

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<v Speaker 1>love it. That's a great song. All right, So let

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<v Speaker 1>me ask you something. Have you ever gone home? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>put and felt just all right, and I'm having a

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<v Speaker 1>good day. I'm home. This is great. Put the key

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<v Speaker 1>in the door. And as soon as you start that process,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh m god, I have to be really

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<v Speaker 1>really bad. I cannot express to you how many times

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<v Speaker 1>this happens to me for real. So you have this yeah, clearly,

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<v Speaker 1>and I noticed that it mostly affects women. I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>hum whatever, Um, but I definitely have a big time,

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<v Speaker 1>so much so that I've trained myself because there's clearly

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<v Speaker 1>something going on with the brain where I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I have so much further before I could possibly pee.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not happening in the next like ten seconds

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, So might as well just calm down there,

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<v Speaker 1>bladder and it actually works. Yeah, So it is. That

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<v Speaker 1>is a real thing called key in lock syndrome or

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<v Speaker 1>urge urinary incontinence, And like you said, it apparently does

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<v Speaker 1>affect more women than men. And um, if you really

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<v Speaker 1>have this to a you know, to as decent to

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<v Speaker 1>large degree, you kind of have to plan around it.

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<v Speaker 1>Even Yeah, it's so I didn't understand this. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>totally get like those poise ads and depends ads, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it now. Um, Apparently as as women age, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they tend to become slightly more incontinent, right, But it's not,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, it's not strictly women. Um. I think

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<v Speaker 1>a quarter to a third of all Americans at any

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<v Speaker 1>given point in time have some sort of incontinence problem,

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<v Speaker 1>not just this one, but if you start to understand

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<v Speaker 1>what the uh what what's behind it, it actually makes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more sense. But basically, you have what's called

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<v Speaker 1>a um a. The floor of your pelvic muscle, your

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<v Speaker 1>pellic muscle or your pellc floor is basically what it is,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is what holds your guts and everything up.

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<v Speaker 1>That supports basically everything inside your abdomen, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a trampoline of muscle that all that stuff sits in,

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<v Speaker 1>and it has a few holes in it. It has

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<v Speaker 1>one or your urethra, one for your house and then

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a woman, has one for your vagina to

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<v Speaker 1>right um. So normally the that muscle is pretty tight

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<v Speaker 1>and it's holding all that stuff closed. And then when

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<v Speaker 1>you need to pee or your poop or something, your

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<v Speaker 1>brain is like, all right, open up, you're going number one,

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<v Speaker 1>You're going number two. Here comes a baby, that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. And over time this muscle can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>get weaker, get looser. Once you have a child, that

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<v Speaker 1>can really stretch your muscles out. And so as a

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<v Speaker 1>result of this, it's harder to hold impea, especially if

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<v Speaker 1>you get a sudden urge to go. Yeah, and and

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, it. You know, as you age, this

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<v Speaker 1>can increase um. One of the reasons I think it

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<v Speaker 1>it primarily affects women, uh, is because childbirth and pregnancy

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<v Speaker 1>can play a pretty big role in this. And interestingly, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the same as for C section as just a

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<v Speaker 1>good old fashioned vaginal birth. That's really weird. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>I would think it has to do with with I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I guess section. I think there's pressure no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what during pregnancy. But it does say that childbirth,

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<v Speaker 1>even a C section, they're they're impacted. Well, yeah, then

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<v Speaker 1>it must just be for the whole um, the whole pregnancy,

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<v Speaker 1>just the baby sitting on that trampoline of muscle. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gotta stretch it out a little up and down for sure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like settled down there jr. All moms say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they're pregnant, so pregnancy, childbirth age, Uh. Some other uh,

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<v Speaker 1>a little more serious causes, although they're not as common

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<v Speaker 1>as those are, like infection or bladder cancer, bladder stones

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<v Speaker 1>for men, prostate problems right, which I didn't. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>know what the prostate does? Do? I know what the

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<v Speaker 1>prostate does. That's my question that's out there on the table,

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<v Speaker 1>right now I do, but I don't know right now, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you. You know at one so you know, semen,

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<v Speaker 1>I am sure well acquainted, all right. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like the sperm that's in semen, you know the other

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that's in semen that's made by your prostate, and

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<v Speaker 1>women have something to um called the skeins gland and

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<v Speaker 1>it makes up basically that for women. So semen minus

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<v Speaker 1>the sperm, so your prostrate and your skeins gland are

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<v Speaker 1>are um well male and female stuff makers, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's we're dancing around this one for sure. But

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<v Speaker 1>so um the prostate and I didn't see it anywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would guess if the skeins gland is affected

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<v Speaker 1>to um, it could have an impact on incontinence for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But also medicines, two different kinds of medications can make

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<v Speaker 1>you be yourself. Well yeah, and it's here's the thing too.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a lot of times they don't necessarily come in

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<v Speaker 1>and say it's this one thing that's causing it. So

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of researchers now think maybe it can be

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<v Speaker 1>a combination of things that it's not just the bladder. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's clearly a brain connection because you can. You can

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<v Speaker 1>tell your brain no, it's not time, settle down, and

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<v Speaker 1>your brain will be like, oh sorry, false alarm. Just

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<v Speaker 1>wait a little longer to your bladder. Unless you've crossed

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<v Speaker 1>that threshold, then there's no turning back. And then it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like, I wonder what that's all about, actually to

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<v Speaker 1>the threshold where you're like no, no, no, there is

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<v Speaker 1>no bringing bringing it back. I don't know, like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>about to pee my pants if I don't find a bathroom,

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<v Speaker 1>because really, other than you know, having to take a

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<v Speaker 1>shower afterwards, all your all your breaking is like decorum.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Yeah. I think what it is is your

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<v Speaker 1>brains weighing the violation of decorum versus the horrible feeling

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<v Speaker 1>that is having endurance. Just like I'm going with this one,

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<v Speaker 1>so long decorum. But um, it is a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's enough of a an embarrassing problem that people do

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<v Speaker 1>seek treatment. But unfortunately, from what I understand and from

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<v Speaker 1>what the article that you sent um says is that

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<v Speaker 1>there's real, like low level attention paid to solving this.

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<v Speaker 1>But luckily there's kind of like this rising school of

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<v Speaker 1>thought that's like, no, we we need to study this more.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not enough. You can't just tell women to

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<v Speaker 1>go do kegel exercises and don't worry about it, or

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<v Speaker 1>that they have to wear poise pads for the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of their life. That's not a solution. That's not an answer.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's take a break and we'll come back and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what you can do when you're about to

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<v Speaker 1>pee yourself, because you are opening your door alright, So

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<v Speaker 1>the bladder, I'm curious we should maybe do a full

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<v Speaker 1>one on the bladder at some point, because it's really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to me. I've always been a person that I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I p more than your average person. Me too.

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<v Speaker 1>You definitely do, but yours is for one reason. It's

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<v Speaker 1>because you have a constant flow of liquids coming into

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<v Speaker 1>your body. Not just liquids, but coffee too. Chuck Wich

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<v Speaker 1>is a diuretic. Yeah yeah. Emily also is a frequent urinator.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've always just suspected that, um that it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like people say I have a small bladder. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that's true or not. Like I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>not so much the size of the bladder, but maybe

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<v Speaker 1>how it relates to the brain. That's kind of And

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<v Speaker 1>it seems to be the the The prevailing wisdom that's

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<v Speaker 1>developing now is that there's something going on with the

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<v Speaker 1>brain bladder connection. Yeah, so that's what happens when you

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<v Speaker 1>need to when everything's going great. The bladder sends a

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<v Speaker 1>signal to the brain and says, hey, brain, you might

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<v Speaker 1>want to find a might want to get this meat

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<v Speaker 1>bag to a toilet soon because I have to release

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<v Speaker 1>and it's going to happen at some point no matter what. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>There also seems to be possibly some connection to vassip pressing,

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<v Speaker 1>because the brain floods the um bladder with vasippressing um

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<v Speaker 1>to keep it from peeing while you're sleeping um as

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<v Speaker 1>a child, as you're developing, and um, you're not peeing

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<v Speaker 1>the bed any longer. It's because you're vassip pressing levels

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<v Speaker 1>are right rising throughout your lifetime. UM, and I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if they start to go down after you age and

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<v Speaker 1>that actually has an an impact on it as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's possible, chuck. Uh. So all right, your brain gets

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<v Speaker 1>this signal that your bladder says it's full. Um, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're if you're dude, you can run to the urinal,

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<v Speaker 1>which I would love to have one of this in

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<v Speaker 1>my house by the way, But Emily said, no way.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, you live in a house full of women.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not building a urinal for you. Well, you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>we can have both one right next to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>So you run to the urnal and when you get there,

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<v Speaker 1>your your brain sends a signal back that says, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're here, release the urine. Or if you can't get

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<v Speaker 1>to a urinal or a bathroom, your brain says, sorry, bladder,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're gonna have to hang in there for a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. That's peeing, Yeah, pretty much. Do you remember

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about mix mixturition syncope and I call this syncope.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what was that? It's where you faint after you pee,

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<v Speaker 1>right right, because they think there's like changes in your

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<v Speaker 1>level of either vast oppressing or nor up and ne friend,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some chemical that tells your muscles to relax around

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<v Speaker 1>your bladder causes you to to faint. So what can

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<v Speaker 1>you do? You can do kegels. If you're a woman

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<v Speaker 1>or a man, um you can do you could basically,

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<v Speaker 1>I think from what I understand, the first thing you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do is go to your doctor and this

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<v Speaker 1>specialist his name was um Dr Philip P. Smith, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's one of these new thinkers about this kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, if your doctors tells you to do

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<v Speaker 1>kegels or get used to wearing pads, give yourself another doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>Go see somebody else, because there's other stuff you can do.

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<v Speaker 1>But if your doctor is worth you know, their salt,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna say things like, um, yes, do kegels. Try

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<v Speaker 1>to follow a basically a p regiment schedule. Yes. So

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize this and this this person had like

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest quote. Um, we have all heard that voiding

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<v Speaker 1>on a schedule rather than just when you have to

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<v Speaker 1>go is better. I never heard that had me there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the specialist needs to get out of the

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<v Speaker 1>clinic once in a while. I remember when my dad

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<v Speaker 1>sat me down when I was ten and said, you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's on you pe at nine, noon, three, seven

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<v Speaker 1>and ten and everything will be great. That's supposedly what

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do is go every three hours, um,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you have the urge or not, and you're training

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<v Speaker 1>your body to be able to hold it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>paradoxically you want to hold it for an extra five minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>then maybe an extra ten minutes, because, as this article

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<v Speaker 1>says it not for the opposite, Stretching your bladder actually

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<v Speaker 1>allows it to hold more, so you'll have the urgency

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<v Speaker 1>less frequently over the day. But I don't know about

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<v Speaker 1>that one. I'm not I'm not banking on it. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you ever go to one of those dumb college bars

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<v Speaker 1>that had the thing where beer is free until you pee? No? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a thing at some bars from like five

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<v Speaker 1>to seven. Beer was free for everybody until the first

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<v Speaker 1>person in the bar p That's a lot of stress,

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<v Speaker 1>and so of course there's always, you know, some stupid

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<v Speaker 1>frat boy peeing in a beer pitcher under the table

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<v Speaker 1>just so we can drink a little more. Where was this,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we both went to college in the same town.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't think. I think they had them

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<v Speaker 1>at Georgia Southern. I never I never went to one

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<v Speaker 1>in Athens because I wouldn't have wanted that pressure, because

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<v Speaker 1>I would have been, like, I gotta be guys. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>enough said with Georgia Southern. Yeah, so train your bladder.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have to pee, try and stave it off

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<v Speaker 1>even longer. Five minutes at a time, then maybe ten

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<v Speaker 1>minutes and before you know it. You get to that

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<v Speaker 1>front door and you're just fine, You're just gonna poop yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a whole other short stuff episode. All tickets right, uh,

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