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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey everybody, It's Thursday, January twenty fifth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast where we're questionable

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Speaker 1: for this weekend. To me your man, MG Marcus Grand

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Speaker 1: joined by Michael F. Florio, Nolaqwan Jones today, but we

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Speaker 1: are still here to get you ready for Championship weekend.

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Speaker 1: And you and I were looking before the show. We

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Speaker 1: got a lot to talk about Florio, but we were

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Speaker 1: looking before the show. And there's going to be an

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Speaker 1: in game DJ for the Super Bowl. I only vaguely

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Speaker 1: knew who Tiesto was. Like I've heard the name before.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't you know, if a Tiesto song or mix

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Speaker 1: came on, I couldn't tell you who it was. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Are you familiar with this artist?

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Speaker 2: Much like you, I know the name, I don't know

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Speaker 2: much beyond that. My sister is big into like DJ's

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Speaker 2: and house music and all that, so I've heard her

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Speaker 2: say the name before, but I personally have no experience

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Speaker 2: beyond that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was announced just this morning, in fact, maybe

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Speaker 1: just a little bit before we started recording this show.

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Speaker 1: The NFL has announced Tiesto as the first in game

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Speaker 1: superstar DJ for Super Bowl fifty eight. He'll perform a

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Speaker 1: DJ set before the game of the players warm up

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Speaker 1: and fans settle in. He will also play during feature

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Speaker 1: breaks within the game, giving the first superstar DJ to

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Speaker 1: perform throughout the Super Bowl. Which, look, I guess if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna do it, Vegas is the place to do it, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, it's gonna be fun for the fans.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure for the winning team. I'm sure when you're

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Speaker 1: if the team that is losing has to hear him playing,

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Speaker 1: me too happy about that. I'll tell you this. Having

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Speaker 1: been to a couple of Super Bowls, I've been fortunate

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Speaker 1: to go to two of them since I've been at

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Speaker 1: the NFL. During the breaks, it's sort of dead there

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Speaker 1: in the stadium, Like you know, everybody at home is

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Speaker 1: watching the commercials and talking about what happened, Like you're

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Speaker 1: in the stadium and it's just it's kind of a

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Speaker 1: down time. Like the players are on the sidelines are

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Speaker 1: just kind of hanging out in the huddle. The rest

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Speaker 1: are often like nothing is happening. So maybe this is good,

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Speaker 1: Maybe this would be interesting for the folks. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Can hurt, can't hurt, you know again, and we get

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Speaker 1: to see some of the DJ sets. I guess if

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Speaker 1: that's what you're into. Which side note, And this is

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Speaker 1: not exactly where I wanted to take the show at

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Speaker 1: the start, but this is where we are now. I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's hard to get up and leave the

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Speaker 1: TV during the Super Bowl, like if you have to

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Speaker 1: use the restroo, if you have to pee, Like it's

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Speaker 1: hard because obviously you're watching the game, but then you

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Speaker 1: want to see the commercials. Now, these DJ sets, like

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowls made for Scott Hansen, that's what ay

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Speaker 1: for now. It is like, uh, Nicolette, she'll always.

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Speaker 2: Go to the bat like when we're watching, like during

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Speaker 2: the game, because she's like, I want to see the commercials.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, like I want to see the commercials too,

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Speaker 2: but obviously I want to see the game and then

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Speaker 2: the halftime show. And yeah, so you that's a good point.

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Speaker 2: You basically need to be Scott Hansen if you want

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Speaker 2: to see everything.

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Speaker 1: Gotta be Scotty, you know. It's like seven hours of

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Speaker 1: commercial free football basically is what's going to happen for

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So if you're there, hey man, let

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Speaker 1: me know how Tiesto is, how things in the stadium are.

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Speaker 1: I guess the rest of us will be watching from

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Speaker 1: home when it happens in a couple of weeks. We

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Speaker 1: are of course going to preview the championship games that

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Speaker 1: hit on Sunday, Chiefs at the Ravens, Lions at the

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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers. We'll give you our DFS picks for

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Speaker 1: those games as well. But I want to start with

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Speaker 1: a lot of coaching moves, and I had originally kind

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Speaker 1: of wanted to do a big kind of coaching carousel

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Speaker 1: thing with the guys who had been hired and what

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Speaker 1: it means. I don't know. They're going to get to

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Speaker 1: all of them in the interest of basically time, especially

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Speaker 1: because there were two new ones that have hit in

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Speaker 1: the last twenty four actually less than twenty four twelve

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Speaker 1: hours essentially since these came down. The first of those

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Speaker 1: two in Los Angeles, the Chargers have announced that they

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Speaker 1: have hired former University of Michigan, former San Francisco forty

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Speaker 1: coach Jim Harbaugh to be their new head coach after

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Speaker 1: moving on from Brandon Staley earlier this offseason. I guess

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Speaker 1: the first question is what does this mean for fantasy

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Speaker 1: bringing Jim Harbaugh to Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a good thing. I think it's a

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Speaker 2: good thing for fantasy and for real life purposes. Like

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Speaker 2: when I announced it yesterday, I tweeted just when I

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Speaker 2: was ready to quit the Chargers because I've been very

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Speaker 2: high on the Chargers the last couple of years because

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Speaker 2: talent hasn't been an issue for the Chargers. Like on paper,

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Speaker 2: they should be a great football team, but we know

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Speaker 2: a lot has gone wrong for them there. I did

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Speaker 2: do a deep dive into him and his tenure with

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Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers, which again was ten years ago

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Speaker 2: at this point now, and then his last nine years

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Speaker 2: his offenses, and they're both. They were at both ten

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Speaker 2: years very run heavy, not a whole lot of three

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Speaker 2: wide receiver sets, much more play action pass base. So

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Speaker 2: and I understand, like you could say, he had Colin

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Speaker 2: Kaepernick for two and a half of his four years

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Speaker 2: were still very run heavy when it was Alex Smith

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Speaker 2: as well. So I think We're gonna see a lot

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Speaker 2: of running the ball. I do anticipate him making adjustments

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Speaker 2: to having a quarterback like Justin Herbert, to having to

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Speaker 2: coaching in the modern NFL. But yeah, the things that

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Speaker 2: I took away from there were a lot of play action,

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Speaker 2: a lot of running, not a ton of three wide

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Speaker 2: I still think this is a good thing though, for

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, because he's this has the potential. I won't

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Speaker 2: say it definitely will be, but it has the potential

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Speaker 2: to be the best Chargers offense that we've seen with

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert so far. The only caveat Marcus. And you

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Speaker 2: know this, the Chargers team two months from now could

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Speaker 2: look extreme sely different than it does now because they

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Speaker 2: can move on from Keenan, they can move on from

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Speaker 2: Mike Williams. They could take a wide receiver fifth or

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Speaker 2: an O lineman or at Eckler could be gone. So

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Speaker 2: like people yesterday were asking me, what does this mean

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Speaker 2: for his fantasy stake?

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Speaker 1: Where are you ranking him? And it's like the Chargers

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Speaker 2: Of those teams where it's January we have to take

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Speaker 2: away and see approach right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that's very much the thing.

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Speaker 1: The only concern I might have, at least for Justin

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Speaker 1: the two of them have sort of been connected in

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Speaker 1: the past. You talk about all that running that the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers did, a lot of that was under

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Speaker 1: in Baltimore when he had Lamar Jackson, and it was

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Speaker 1: very much a run based offense, some of which is

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Speaker 1: because of the quarterback, right, and you mentioned it with

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith. They ran the ball with Colin Kaepernick, They

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Speaker 1: ran the ball with Lamar Jackson. Greg Roman ran the ball.

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Speaker 1: What will he do with Justin Herbert because he does

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Speaker 1: Can they run that same style of offense? And if

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Speaker 1: guy does this mean we are pivoting to Joshua Kelly?

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Speaker 1: Is do they find somebody else in the draft in

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Speaker 1: ball to. So I think Harbaugh has the potential to

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Speaker 1: because I do think if you see Greg Roman's name

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Speaker 1: sad for Justin Herbert, get really sad for I don't know,

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Speaker 1: Quentin Johnston, whatever. Pass catchers are going to be left

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Speaker 1: definitely coming in as the head coach, and maybe who

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Speaker 1: interesting point yesterday. I think it was that everybody in

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Speaker 1: few years to stop what he called the quote Mahomes

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Speaker 1: problem in the AFC, at least in the AFC West,

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Speaker 1: and no one has had any real success. The Raiders

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Speaker 1: have been through a couple of head coaches trying to

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Speaker 1: do it. Now Antonio Pierce gets the gig. The Chargers

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Speaker 1: have been through a couple of guys. Now it's going

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Speaker 1: to be Jim Harbaugh. The Broncos went whole scale and

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Speaker 1: brought in Sean Payton that hasn't worked. Is this the

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Speaker 1: magic elixir? Is this the thing that finally knocks Kansas

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Speaker 2: I'm not ready to say that yet, but because look,

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Speaker 2: out a couple years ago, and we're like, we're building

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Speaker 1: To beat the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: It hasn't worked. No one has figured out the recipe

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Speaker 2: to consistently beat the Chiefs yet. I think it's two

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Speaker 2: things that one, we got to see what this Chargers

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Speaker 2: free agency and after Harboro puts his fingerprints all over

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Speaker 2: look like next year because there's a lot of rumors

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Speaker 2: that Travis Kelce could hang it up after this year.

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Speaker 2: That is Andy Reid considering retirement. Ladarius Need is a

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Speaker 2: free agent to be so this Chiefs roster could look

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Speaker 2: very different as well a couple months from now. But

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Speaker 2: I've learned my lesson. I've picked the Chargers the last

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Speaker 2: two years to be the team that finally gets over

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Speaker 2: that hump. I'm gonna need to see a lot before

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Speaker 2: I go for a third straight time.

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Speaker 1: I just it's just you mentioned it. The roster is

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Speaker 1: going to have a lot of turnover this year, and

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Speaker 1: what that does is going to have a big impact

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Speaker 1: on what happens with pretty much everybody in the division.

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Speaker 1: So I just get the sense the chiefs are going

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Speaker 1: to be more intact than I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: the teams around the AFC West. I mean, we look,

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Speaker 1: we know my homes is coming back right like that.

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Speaker 1: That's not up for debate. That's all that matters. That

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Speaker 1: that is a big part of what matters. You know

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Speaker 1: that defense is still going to be solid next year.

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Speaker 1: I still think we're going to see a little bit

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Speaker 1: left out of Travis Kelsey. I don't think he look,

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Speaker 1: I think his brother hangs it up. I think we've

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Speaker 1: seen the last of Jason. I don't think we've seen

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Speaker 1: the last of Travis. I don't have any inside of information.

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Speaker 1: It's just a gut I kind of do. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: they could go do a pod together either already do it.

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Speaker 1: They just be full time podcasters.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be. I don't know if it'll be on

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Speaker 2: Amazon or where. But they're gonna be the new Payton

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Speaker 2: and Eli like Colin Gay. I don't know, could one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent, could be wrong, just speculating here. I was

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Speaker 1: next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. So it has

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Speaker 1: down to two. It starts Sunday, three o'clock Eastern on CBS.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs at the Ravens. And I would have said

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Speaker 1: that there were any number of teams, maybe three teams

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Speaker 1: that could have been in this game. Two of those

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Speaker 1: three teams actually say started started the yards at fourteen, right.

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Speaker 1: I would have thought the Bengals had a chance to

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Speaker 1: get back there. They had a whole litany of injuries

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Speaker 1: and other issues that prevented them there. But the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: and the Ravens were two teams and I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of people believed could be in this game, and

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Speaker 1: here they are. What's different about it this year, Mike, though,

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Speaker 1: is that the Chiefs, and we've said this repeatedly, they

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Speaker 1: have done this more on the defensive side than on

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Speaker 1: the offensive side. You know, Travis Kelce has not had

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Speaker 1: the typical Travis Kelce season. We've seen the emergence of

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Speaker 1: Rashi Rice along the way, but all of it has

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Speaker 1: kind of conspired to keep Patrick Mahomes numbers down from

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Speaker 1: where they normally are. Now they're going against one of

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Speaker 1: the best defenses in one of the more aggressive secondaries

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Speaker 1: in the league. Can the Chiefs wide receivers non Rashid

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Speaker 1: Rice division do enough to help them win against this

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Speaker 1: Baltimore defense.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they can do enough. Where if the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs defense allows Lamar and Code get going that they

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Speaker 2: can be in a type of like shootout game or

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Speaker 2: something like that. I think they can do enough in

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Speaker 2: the sense of what they've been doing, which is like

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Speaker 2: like Mvs had a huge catch last week and Watson

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Speaker 2: had one a couple weeks ago. Like we've seen these

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Speaker 2: guys step up situationally and Again, I'm not like none

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Speaker 2: of them are gonna go for one hundred yards or

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Speaker 2: anything like that, but that's not what they need and

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Speaker 2: that's not what they're asking them to do at this

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Speaker 2: point of the season. So I think they could do

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Speaker 2: enough to keep this a close game. And if that

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Speaker 2: is the case, I think that's what you want. If

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Speaker 2: you are the Chiefs or a Chiefs fan. I don't

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Speaker 2: think you're going into this game thinking like we could

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Speaker 2: pull ahead and kind of run up the score here.

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Speaker 2: I think you need to keep this as close scoring

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Speaker 2: and hope that Mahomes could pull out some magically.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's the only way to do it.

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Speaker 1: I think that I just don't know where they go

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Speaker 1: to consistently get playmaking in their wide receiver room besides

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Speaker 1: Rice and letting him try to get open in space

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Speaker 1: and get yards after the catch, which is what he's

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Speaker 1: done so effectively all year. And then hoping that you

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Speaker 1: know they that the Chiefs or that the Ravens don't

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Speaker 1: have a solid plan for Travis Kelcey that he can

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Speaker 1: operate in the middle of the field like he normally does.

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Speaker 1: If suddenly you are leaning on MVS, if you are

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Speaker 1: needing Mikole Hardman of all people to make plays for you.

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Speaker 1: You know, if Justin Watson is out there trying to,

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Speaker 1: you know, take the top off the defense, I think

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Speaker 1: you're in real, real trouble. And so if I'm Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: those are the two guys I'm really trying to take

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Speaker 1: away as much as possible. I'm trying to take away Rice.

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Speaker 1: One of Rice or Kelsey, right. I think if both

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Speaker 1: of those guys have good games, Baltimore could lose. If

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Speaker 1: only one of them has a good game, I think

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Speaker 1: the Ravens have a really good shot to win this

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Speaker 1: thing on Sunday. It's just been amazing to me how

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Speaker 1: Kansas City has survived. And I guess what. Credit to Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: credit to Andy Reid, credit to Steve Spagnolo's defense that

495
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Speaker 1: a team that has lived so much on the arm

496
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Speaker 1: of its quarterback over the last four or five years

497
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Speaker 1: has figured out a way to again be in the

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Speaker 1: AFC Championship Game without having that same potent passing. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you what, how much would they give to

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Speaker 1: get Tyreek Hill back, at least just for one week.

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Speaker 2: They'd give it all, But it could be fool's gold.

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Speaker 2: But because they've played two very banged up defenses the

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Speaker 2: last two weeks. But Rashid Rice, I mean this is

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Speaker 2: nothing new, Like he's really breaking broken out in a

505
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Speaker 2: big way. And and the way that they're using him,

506
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Speaker 2: they're using him more like a traditional wide receiver one

507
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Speaker 2: now whereas early in the year they were just kind

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Speaker 2: of generating touches to get the ball into his hands

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Speaker 2: and let him run. But Travis Kelcey, he kind of

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Speaker 2: looked like Travis Kelcey again these last two weeks. So

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Speaker 2: that and to me, part of what I think the

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Speaker 2: regular season is with the Chiefs is I don't think

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Speaker 2: they care about the regular season, like I think they

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Speaker 2: know if we get to the playoffs and we're healthy,

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Speaker 2: that's all we need and we co win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Now, I think your point is correct, and I think

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Speaker 1: we've seen it in a lot of other sports. Like

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Speaker 1: I say this as a Warriors fan who watched this team,

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Speaker 1: you know at their height, kind of understand like they

520
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Speaker 1: don't need to go all out. They can get a

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Speaker 1: two seed without necessarily going all out. But as long

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Speaker 1: as those key pieces were healthy, then they had a

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Speaker 1: chance to make a run. At a championship. I think

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Speaker 1: we've seen that in a lot of sports, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's kind of where the Chiefs are right now

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Speaker 1: in terms of, hey, we don't need Yeah, if we

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Speaker 1: go out and we win, you know, fourteen fifteen games,

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Speaker 1: that's great. We just need to put ourselves in the

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Speaker 1: best position to make a run in the playoffs, and

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Speaker 1: that is really where they've gotten to this point. Can

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs defense be aggressive, and they've been very aggressive

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Speaker 1: under Steve Spagnolo. Can they continue to be as aggressive

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Speaker 1: and put as much pressure on the quarterback when you've

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Speaker 1: got Lamar Jackson, who at any point can take off

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Speaker 1: and run and just be a game breaker with his legs.

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Speaker 1: I think they.

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Speaker 2: Can be aggressive because their secondary is so good at

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Speaker 2: sticking on wide receivers, especially downfield. Like a bunch of

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Speaker 2: people are saying, Josh Allen was scared to throw downfield,

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Speaker 2: That's not what it is. What it is is that

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Speaker 2: their secondary is so good and it forces the quarterback

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Speaker 2: to kind of think a little bit and it's not like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: this guy's open, I could throw.

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Speaker 1: It to him.

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Speaker 2: If you want to throw it downfield, you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to throw it in a tight window, and that's always

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Speaker 2: tough to do. But what the Bills did well this

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Speaker 2: past week was run the ball, and Josh Allen was

549
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Speaker 2: their leading rushers and he had two rushing touchdowns. So

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Speaker 2: I think Lamar is going to have to step up

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Speaker 2: with his legs because that has been the weakness of

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs all year against and Chris Jones immediately after

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Speaker 2: the Bills game was like, we are about to play

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. We need to figure out a way to

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Speaker 2: stop the run and stop rushing quarterbacks. Good luck, because

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Speaker 2: I think the only quarterback better at running the ball

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Speaker 2: than Josh Allen is Lamar Jackson. And it's only gonna

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Speaker 2: get harder for you this week. So I think he

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Speaker 2: can be aggressive, but I think he's his legs need

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Speaker 2: to open up for his arm.

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Speaker 1: If that makes sense, No, I think so. But I

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Speaker 1: think I think the Chiefs have to be situationally aggressive, right.

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Speaker 1: This can't just be We're going to bring pressure all

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Speaker 1: the time because it's going to kill you in the

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Speaker 1: long run. And I think the issue is what Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: what Lamar Jackson do, what Jalen Hurts does is that

567
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Speaker 1: they force you to play and this is not new.

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Speaker 1: I'm not breaking any ground here, but they force you

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Speaker 1: to play eleven on eleven right, because they they can

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Speaker 1: take off and run. And so do you devote a

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Speaker 1: linebacker or someone or safety to spying on Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: to make sure he stays in the pocket? And does

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Speaker 1: that mean you're taking away from Look Mark Andrews is

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Speaker 1: likely to be back this week? Right? If you are,

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Speaker 1: if you are using assets, if you are using players

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Speaker 1: to spy Lamar Jackson, does that mean that you are

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Speaker 1: using less to make sure Mark Andrews is in check

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Speaker 1: or Zay Flowers or Rashad Bateman or anybody like that.

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Speaker 1: That becomes the issue with Lamar Jackson. Now, Spignola has

580
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Speaker 1: been great at this all year long. I would imagine

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Speaker 1: they are working on sort of creative ways to try

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Speaker 1: and keep Lamar in the pocket. But you know, is

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Speaker 1: that going to be enough? And so I think it's

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Speaker 1: it can't just be just all out aggression. It's got

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Speaker 1: to be sort of a controlled aggression this week against Lamar.

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Speaker 1: It gets us to a couple of more or lesses

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Speaker 1: for the week. Let's do passing yards for Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: more or less than two hundred and forty one and

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Speaker 1: a half passing yards for Mahomes this week.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say more because I think this will

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Speaker 2: be a close, competitive game that comes down to the wire.

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Speaker 2: And if it's going to be that, I think most

593
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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna come in. It's not going to

594
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Speaker 2: be the flashy like Mahomes is putting on a show.

595
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Speaker 2: It's going to be a grinded out It's going to

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Speaker 2: be ugly at times. I expect a lot of passes

597
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Speaker 2: to Isaiah Pacheco, who has been getting more and more

598
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Speaker 2: involved as a pass catcher. I think Travis Kelcey steps up.

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Speaker 1: In this game.

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Speaker 2: One one of their guys is gonna have to win

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Speaker 2: deep at some point. But again, I don't think it'll

602
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Speaker 2: be pretty. But I think at the end of.

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Speaker 1: The day he'll top this number. I'm gonna say less.

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Speaker 1: I you know, I don't know. I just have this

605
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Speaker 1: feeling that he's at you know, two twenty five to thirty, uh,

606
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe a touchdown or two, and if they win,

607
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Speaker 1: it will be just enough. It'll be because the defense

608
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Speaker 1: does just enough and that they maybe get a good

609
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Speaker 1: game out of Isaiah Pachecko running the football some and

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Speaker 1: look I think a good game out of Pacheco running

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Speaker 1: the football is like ninety yards, right, Like, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna see Pacheco like over one

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Speaker 1: hundred or anything like that. I just don't know that

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Speaker 1: a big passing game is coming for Mahomes. But I'm

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Speaker 1: with you. I think it's going to be a gritty, gutty,

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Speaker 1: just kind of battle through sort of game for him.

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Speaker 1: But I don't. I don't know that I would. I

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Speaker 1: would go less on this one for Mahomes more or less.

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Speaker 1: After we just talked about Lamar Jackson sixty three and

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Speaker 1: a half rushing yards for Lamar more Allen had seventy

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Speaker 1: two last week.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if Lamar tops that number because,

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Speaker 2: like I said, like there's going to be running lanes

624
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Speaker 2: up the middle out wide because the weakness again the Chiefs,

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00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: you can run on them all year long. And it

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Speaker 2: wasn't just like a last week thing that this has

627
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Speaker 2: been an issue for them. Chris Jones immediately identified it

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Speaker 2: as an issue they need to clean up. I don't

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Speaker 2: think you could fix a season long problem in six

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Speaker 2: days when you're facing the best rushing quarterback probably in

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Speaker 2: the history of the NFL, and this scary part about

632
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Speaker 2: Lamar And I don't know.

633
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Speaker 1: If you feel this way, Marcus.

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Speaker 2: Even watching when he runs and all the stuff that

635
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Speaker 2: he does, I'm like, he's running at seventy five percent speed,

636
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Speaker 2: Like he never fully turns the jets on. This could

637
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Speaker 2: be a week, and I think it should be a

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00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: week where you leave because I think he runs that

639
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Speaker 2: way to be more unto control and to try to

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Speaker 2: avoid injury. You leave it all on the field this week,

641
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Speaker 2: and if he turns those jets on, he could get

642
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Speaker 2: close to that number in one long run. So I'm

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Speaker 2: definitely taking more than that number.

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely taking more. I'm taking more simply for the

645
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Speaker 1: fact that Lamar Jackson in his playoff career has averaged

646
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Speaker 1: more than ninety three rushing yards per game. That has

647
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Speaker 1: been the average so far for him in the playoffs.

648
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: So just on that reason alone, I'm going to take

649
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: more because you mentioned it. I think what has made

650
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: the passing game more effective in Baltimore has been Lamar

651
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: running the football and just kind of forcing those linebackers

652
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: in safeties to freeze a little bit more to make

653
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: sure that he's going to stay in the pocket and

654
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: that opens some things up there. So I think for

655
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: Baltimore to win, he's got to go for more than

656
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: sixty three and a half. So I'm gonna take more there.

657
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: All Right, we'll do our picks at the end of

658
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: the show, but let's take a look at the Lions

659
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: and the forty nine Ers. The Lions very much. I

660
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: think America's sentimental favorite here, even if they're not the

661
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: favorite in the desert for this one six thirty Eastern

662
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: on Fox. You can see that one on Sunday. Jared

663
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: Goff has been really good this year. Fred Warner is

664
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: saying that, you know, he's one of the best quarterbacks

665
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: in the league right now, but he's a guy who

666
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: sort of has problems when he is faced with pressure.

667
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: So he's got this forty nine Ers pass rush to

668
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: deal with. Jared Goff against the Niner pass rush. Who

669
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: you got forty.

670
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: Nine Ers pass rush. Let's remember too, that the game

671
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: is being played outdoors in San Francisco when and Jared

672
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 2: Goff is famously an indoor cat, and that's we talked

673
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: about that a lot this year, Like it's not just

674
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: necessarily him going on the road, it's him playing outdoors

675
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 2: as well on the road. That is really when he

676
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: tends to struggle. And again it's not even just the

677
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: pass rush, it's that the fact that the forty nine

678
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: ers secondary has been playing so well as of late ward,

679
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: especially that I think they'll force Jared Goff to have

680
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 2: to hold the ball a second longer. And if you're

681
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: giving this pass rush an extra second, I think they're gonna.

682
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: Get home a decent amount. I want to say the

683
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 1: Niners pass rush, and I will, but with an asterisk

684
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: is that they have had some games where they have

685
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: sort of had issues. They didn't really give Jordan Love

686
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: a lot of problems last week against the against the Packers.

687
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: There have been times and stretches this week where Nick

688
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: Bosa has been invisible for a long stretch. So, you know,

689
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: I think in the end, I think over the course

690
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: of four quarters, I think they finally start to get home.

691
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: But I would not be surprised if you see Goff

692
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: early on really take some shots and really make some

693
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: plays in this game, and maybe over the course of

694
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 1: four quarters they start to wear down that offensive line

695
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: and then start to make some plays there. But I

696
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: think it's going to be a long day for the

697
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: Niner pass rush. I also wonder you mentioned him being

698
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: an outdoor cat, right like, outdoor cat versus being back

699
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: home sort of in the Bay Area, right like. I

700
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: don't I don't know how much time he's gonna get

701
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: to spend with the fam. He's gonna go home and

702
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: have a home cooked meal. I don't know if that's

703
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: gonna happen for him, but you know, he's gonna have

704
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: a lot of friends and family. I'm sure in the

705
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: building there in Santa Clara. It's not that far of

706
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: a drive from where he grew up in Marin County.

707
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: So what weighs out Is it Jared Goff being outdoors

708
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: on the road, or is it you know, maybe he

709
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: got to eat in his favorite spot one day while

710
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: he was in town. I don't know.

711
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure that warm's his soul, but I'm gonna go

712
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: with the outdoor facts. But you, as a forty nine

713
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: Ers fan, how much do you think experience comes into

714
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: this Because you guys have been here it feels like yearly,

715
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 2: whereas Jared Goff I think is the only one and CJ.

716
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: Gardner Johnson who have gone this far.

717
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: I think there's a little bit of experience. But I

718
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: also think that for the Niners, there's a little bit

719
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: of pressure here because this team has gotten to this

720
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: point a number of years in a row. They have

721
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: been to the Super Bowl a couple of times, and

722
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: they haven't closed the deal. I think last week, coming

723
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: back from being down seven at the start of the

724
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, I mean, famously they were over with Kyle

725
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: Shanahan in that situation. They came back and got to win.

726
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: I think that is sort of a mental boost for

727
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: this team. But I do think that as long as

728
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: they are in this position, knowing that the window's not

729
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: going to be open forever, that this is a really,

730
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: really good team. I think there's a little bit of

731
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: pressure there, you know, And if something sort of sideways happens,

732
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: I mean, look, everybody thought they had a chance last year.

733
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: Brock Perty gets hurt early in that game and it

734
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: all fell apart for the forty nine ers, and so

735
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: I think, you know, if they can get through the

736
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: early part of the game has some success, I think

737
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: they'll feel better about it. But I do think there's

738
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: some pressure on the forty nine er side. I think

739
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: if I'm the Lions, what do I have to lose,

740
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: Like nobody really expected us to be here in the

741
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: first place. We're playing with house money, so I think

742
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: I think for the Lions it's easier to come in

743
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: and be loose in this situation.

744
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: I agree with you on the Lions mindset. For the

745
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: forty nine ers, it kind of feels like like, if

746
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 2: you wanted us eliminated, you should have did it last.

747
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: Week when you had the chance. Yeah, I think that's

748
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: that's probably fair. So we'll see. But you know, on

749
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: the other side, though, you talk about the Niners, Deebo

750
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: was at practice per our own omar rou He was

751
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: in practice on Wednesday, kind of working out on the side,

752
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: So there is hope that he can play despite the

753
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: shoulder injury. But if he doesn't play, cam the Niners win.

754
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: Yes, I think it would be a huge boost to

755
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: have Deebo. That that's not no groundbreaking analysis there, Like

756
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: he's their best playmaker outside of Christian McCaffrey, and he

757
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 2: always becomes wolverine this time of year, Like every time

758
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: he goes down it looks like it's he's not getting

759
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 2: back up, and he somehow does. But this the Lions defense,

760
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: their weakness has been against wide receivers, so naturally you

761
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 2: want Deebo out there, but I still think Brendan a

762
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 2: you could do enough to step up. Jennings has been

763
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 2: playing really well. They have George Kittle, they have Christian McCaffrey.

764
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 2: If there's any team that is built, and I know

765
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 2: in the regular season it was like, oh, well they're

766
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: losing without Deebo. They were also missing Trent Williams.

767
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

768
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that might be even more important than Deebo Samuels.

769
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 2: So while obviously him playing would be a huge boost,

770
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: I still because of the matchup, they can be productive

771
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: enough at the wide receiver position to get it done.

772
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: That's honestly why my Galaxy brain idea is that Trent

773
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: Williams should be the NFL MVP, because you know, everybody, yeah,

774
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: everybody's trying to shoehorn Brock Purty into it and talk

775
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: about Christian McCaffrey. But when they went through that three

776
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: game losing streak in the middle of the season, Trent

777
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: Williams was maybe the biggest piece that was missing there,

778
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: and like the biggest reason that perty was under pressure

779
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 1: and throwing interceptions. So I'm like, look, if we're gonna

780
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: say brock Purty is the MVP, then what about the

781
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: guy who's been protecting him and allowing him time to

782
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: make plays in the pocket. Maybe he should be the MVP.

783
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: But what in a literal sense, he was the biggest

784
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: piece missing, literally was the biggest piece missing.

785
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: Without a doubt. You talk about though, Deebo, Samuel and

786
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: I have a feeling this could be a Brandon Ayuk game.

787
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: Regardless he does well against man coverage. The Lions are

788
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: a heavy man coverage team. I think this is a

789
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: situation where they use him a lot. Now, if Deebo

790
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: isn't there, I think that does mean some more opportunities

791
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: in the intermediate part of the field. I think you're

792
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: gonna see if you can somehow fit more targets into

793
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. You see those, I think you see George

794
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: Kittle sort of running some of those routes. I think

795
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: you see Rey Ray McLeod even getting involved a little

796
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: bit more running some of those routes. It will be

797
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: it won't be one person that picks up the slack

798
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: if Deebo doesn't go. But I still think there's gonna

799
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: be a heavy dose of Brandon Ayuk in this game

800
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: and maybe even a little Juwan Jennings to try to

801
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: get over the top of this defense a little bit.

802
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: I think the Niners offense is going to look better

803
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: this week than it did last week. I think you

804
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: had guys hadn't played in a couple of weeks. I

805
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 1: just think you sort of had the rust a little

806
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: bit of having some time off. You had a packer

807
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: team that was red hot, had been in playoff mode

808
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. I think it's like it's

809
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: like the NC two a tournament, right where you get

810
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: eighteen that's a high seed, and maybe they struggle in

811
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: their first game out and everybody worries about them, and

812
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: then they come out the next week and they sort

813
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: of roll and everybody's like, Oh, this is this is

814
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: what we were expecting. I kind of have that feeling

815
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers offense, and after what we

816
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: saw last week, they sort of shook it off. They

817
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: got they got done what they needed to get done.

818
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: I think the best analogy I heard is that the

819
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: Niners last week were like a star pitcher, you know,

820
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: in the playoffs or in the regular season where it's

821
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: a big game and they don't have their best stuff

822
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: and they figure out a way just to gut it

823
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: out and get to win. And that's kind of what

824
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: perty in that offense looked like last week. I think

825
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: they're better this week. Let's do some more or less

826
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: for this one too. Seven and a half catches for

827
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: Amon Ross Saint Brown more or less.

828
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 2: This is one where I could see the logic for

829
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,479
Speaker 2: going less. I'm gonna say more though, because the forty

830
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: nine ers are great against the run. They can especially,

831
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: I think they'll have their hands full with Gibbs. I

832
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: could see them having better success against Montgomery, who doesn't

833
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: have as much speed. But I think this will be

834
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: a game where than not have a lead, and that

835
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: means a lot of throwing for the Lions in the

836
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: second half. And I think they're gonna force feed their

837
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 2: number one wide receiver, And you look at the rest

838
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: of their passt like Sam Laporta is awesome, but he's

839
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 2: clearly still playing banged up right now. And outside of that,

840
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 2: it's like we have Gibbs and there's wide receivers there

841
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 2: who can make plays, but there's no one anywhere close

842
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: to what Aman Ross Saint Brown is. So I expect

843
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: them to come out and force feed him the ball

844
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: early on in all game long, and I think I

845
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: think him having a big game has to be a

846
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: huge recipe of success for the Lions. So I'm gonna

847
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: go with my heart and say more.

848
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: It's gonna be more because they can't win without him

849
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: having a really good game this week. So I do

850
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: think they try to get him involved early and often,

851
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 1: and at some point the Niners do have to decide

852
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: is it going to be Saint Brown is it going

853
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: to be Sam Laporta? Which guy gets a lot of

854
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: that attention in the middle of the field. Honestly, I

855
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: think the battle between say like Fred Warner and Sam

856
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: Laporta is gonna be really really interesting with you know,

857
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: if they have Warner or green Law trying to cover

858
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: Laporta is going to be really kind of fun. But

859
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: I still think that means you're gonna see a lot

860
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: of Saint Brown in the middle of the field. And again,

861
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: if the Niners can't get to golf early, I think

862
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: you see I'm on rajet going early in this game.

863
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: I would say nine to ten catches wouldn't be a

864
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: surprise for me for Saint Brown this week on either side.

865
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: More or less one and a half total touchdowns for

866
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey.

867
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm gonna say more, but my answer might

868
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 2: change if Deebo suits up, because I'm not sure CMC

869
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 2: is gonna get a whole bunch of opportunity on the

870
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 2: ground near the goal line, and if Deebo plays, he

871
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 2: could steal it one away. But I think in the past,

872
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 2: like when they're if it's first and goal or second

873
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 2: in goal, something like like goal to go and brendon

874
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: and you can't win twenty yards downfield, I think that's

875
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 2: when they're gonna be like, all right, it seems see,

876
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 2: we need you to step up here and we're gonna

877
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: give you four opportunities or something like that to pun in.

878
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: So this is one I went kind of back and

879
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 2: forth on because the lie I really do respect the

880
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: lines run defense and what they've been able to do.

881
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: But Christian McCaffrey is the best running back walking the planet,

882
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: and he could also be used as like their wide

883
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: receiver two in this game with the amount of targets

884
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: he could get. So I'll take the over on volume.

885
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say yeah, I'm gonna say over. I'm saying

886
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: more just because I think one's rushing, one's receiving. That's

887
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: because they do use him so much near the goal line.

888
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: There's so many, so many chances for him to get

889
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: his hands on the football. And again, if Deebo doesn't play,

890
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: if Debo plays and is less than one hundred percent,

891
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: I just think that means more short targets for McCaffrey,

892
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: more chances to get out in space and score. So

893
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: I think he goes with more than one and a

894
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: half touchdowns there. If you are playing daily fantasy, which

895
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of you out there are, we

896
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: decided to pick get to some value picks. I know

897
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: it's hard this time because there's only four teams playing.

898
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: There's not a ton of value. But where did you

899
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: find some guys that maybe give you some flexibility?

900
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 2: At Justice Hill at forty eight hundred, I was a

901
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: little bit surprised with how much Justin Hill we saw

902
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: this past week. And I'm a little bit concerned if

903
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 2: we're going to get more Dalvin Cook this week. But

904
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: Hill was the most utilized Ravens running back. And keep

905
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 2: saying it the weakness of the Chiefs is against the

906
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 2: run game. So I think Baltimore. With that being one

907
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: of their biggest strengths, I think they are going to try,

908
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 2: especially early on, to establish the run. So at just

909
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: forty eight hundred, he felt like a pretty good bargain there.

910
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: And then brock Purty sixty four hundred. Not super cheap,

911
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 2: but he's cheaper than Lamar, He's cheaper than Mahomes, and

912
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 2: I think he could have the best game of any

913
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: quarterback outside of maybe Lamar fantasy wise because what he

914
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 2: does with his legs. But you got a huge discount.

915
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: I expect a lot of passing for brock Purty Marcus.

916
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: My bold prediction this week was brock Purty throws for

917
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 2: three hundred and three Agassi secondary that has struggled this year,

918
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: So I know it's bold, but it's more so trusting

919
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 2: Shanahan and those playmakers that the Niners have.

920
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: All Right, So I'm gonna go with George Kittle at

921
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: fifty three hundred, which I know sounds sort of wild,

922
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: but he is of the four starting tight ends, he

923
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: is the one who's sort of the best pride. I mean,

924
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: you got Mark Andrews, I think comes in at five thousand,

925
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: but you know, I don't know if we see the

926
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: full Mark Andrews like we would have if he was

927
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: fully healthy. I think you still see some Isaiah likely

928
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: So I think you know, getting Kittle in there's your

929
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 1: tight end. It gives you the upside without maybe paying

930
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: that Travis Kelce type price or the Sam Laporter price

931
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: for him. And the other one is Juwan Jennings because

932
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: I mentioned that he is a guy who is an

933
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: occasional playmaker for this team. He will get targets on

934
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: critical third downs. He has made some big catches, and

935
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: if there is no debo or a limited debo, I

936
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: think that means more opportunity for him to run routes

937
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: and more chances to get some targets down on the field.

938
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: At forty six hundred, he could potentially be a lower

939
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: end wide receiver, maybe a flex play for you if

940
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: that's what you want to do in your lineup. So

941
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 1: that aside, how did you build a lineup for this weekend?

942
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: I used Brock Perdy at quarterback Isaiah Pacheco because, like

943
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: I said earlier, I think they're gonna throw the ball

944
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: to him a good amount.

945
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,919
Speaker 1: He's gonna get the bulk of carries there.

946
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: Justice Hill, who I think is a good bargain, and

947
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: getting him allowed me to pay up for aman Ros

948
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 2: Saint Brown, who both of us think is going.

949
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: To be heavily, heavily involved this week.

950
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: I got Brandon Ayuk, who, like you said, I think

951
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: with or without Deebo, he can eat this week, especially

952
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 2: as the field stretcher there, and I get that stack.

953
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: Then between Purdy and Ayuk, I needed some money to

954
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 2: save here, so I'm with Jamison Williams, who I know

955
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: his volume hasn't been great as of late, but he's

956
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: impressed me with the fact that he's not just streaking

957
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 2: down the sideline anymore.

958
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: He's actually running routes.

959
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: And if this is a game where they're trailing basically

960
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 2: thirty seven hundred, you're hoping that he catches one of

961
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 2: those long balls. And then Travis Kelce, who I think

962
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: is going to step up and be very, very utilized

963
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: in this game. The one pick I was considering changing

964
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: was Odell Beckham because this morning I saw how they

965
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: were using their wide receivers in Baltimore in the playoffs,

966
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: and Odell's kind of been the odd man out, so

967
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: I might change that pick up a bit. And then

968
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: Lions defense because they are the cheapest, and it allowed

969
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: me to pay up some other places. But if I

970
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: dropped down from Beckham, I could potentially improve that defense.

971
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: All right. So I went with you Like You, with

972
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: Brock Purdy as my quarterback there because give me a

973
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: little bit of flexibility. Also because I wild admit I

974
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: went very forty nine or heavy in this lineup here,

975
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, I was able to fit in at the

976
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: number one running back spot. I did go Justice Hill because,

977
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, I mean, he got a lot of

978
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: work last week and is more likely to get work

979
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 1: in the passing game if it comes to that, certainly

980
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: more than Gus Edwards or Dalvin Cook a couple of

981
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: Niners wide receivers. When Brandon Ayuk and Juwan Jinnings able

982
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: to get them both in. I did go Nelson Agalore

983
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: because it just seems like he pops up out of

984
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: nowhere catching a touchdown. Every once in a while we

985
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: get the meme of the guy with the bug eyes

986
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: talking about catching babies and that sort of thing. So

987
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: I got Agalore in there. Able to get George Kittle

988
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: at my tight end my flex I went with David

989
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: Montgomery because my bold prediction is that he is the

990
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: first player to score two rushing touchdowns in a game

991
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: against the forty nine Ers. This season, no one's had

992
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,959
Speaker 1: more than one in a game. I will also admit

993
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 1: that maybe it's a little bit of a reverse jinx.

994
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: All of my bold predictions this year have been pretty awful,

995
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 1: so now I'm just taking the opportunity to try and

996
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: reverse jinks to teams that are playing San Francisco late

997
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: in the season. And then as a defense, I took

998
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: the Ravens. I just think they are maybe the best

999
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: defense here. The Chiefs, weird to say, maybe the worst

1000
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: of the four offenses. So I put the raven It's

1001
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: by degrees, right, Like, I'm not sitting here saying the

1002
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: Chiefs very bad offense, but by degrees they are the

1003
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: worst of the four remaining offenses. So that is who

1004
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: I took defensively, So that gets us to our pick.

1005
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: So tell me who will be playing in Super Bowl

1006
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: fifty eight in a couple of weeks.

1007
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: The forty nine Ers, I think are the team that

1008
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: I feel most confident in making it. I think that

1009
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: the lines are a great story, that they've gone further

1010
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: than I think a lot of people thought, but on

1011
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: the road against what I would say is easily the

1012
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: best team in the NFC. I think the forty nine

1013
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 2: ers get the job done.

1014
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: In the AFC.

1015
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 2: My brain and logic and all of that is telling

1016
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 2: me to pick Baltimore. I think they are the best

1017
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 2: team in football. I think their defense is one of

1018
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 2: the best. Like I think their defense is extremely underrated

1019
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: because we don't put them up with We haven't all

1020
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 2: year talked about them being one of the best defenses

1021
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: we've seen in a very long time, but they were

1022
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 2: historically good this season. That being said, I'm going with

1023
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 2: the Chiefs because it seems like they figured something out

1024
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 2: these last few weeks. It's Chrick Mahomes and the playoffs

1025
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 2: truly is a completely different beast.

1026
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: Travis kelce looks like Travis Kelcey again.

1027
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: Pacheco's running really well, this defense is really good, and

1028
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: they could force some turnovers. I'm kind of buying into

1029
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: the narrative that the Chiefs might look very different next year.

1030
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: So I don't know if this.

1031
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 2: Is I'm not saying this is their last dance season,

1032
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 2: but there it could be for some of their key people.

1033
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go against logic and say that Patrick

1034
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: Mahomes defies the odds once again.

1035
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: I was sort of torn. So I'm just gonna tell

1036
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: you that I'm picking the forty nine ers in the NFC.

1037
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: I think both with my heart and with my head,

1038
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think they are a better

1039
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 1: team top to bottom, and I think they rebound from

1040
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: what was admittedly an ugly performance last week against Green Bay.

1041
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: I think they bounced back, and I think I think

1042
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: they just have too much for Detroit on both sides

1043
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: of the ball. On the other side, though, because the

1044
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: last two Super Bowl appearances the Niners had, they've lost

1045
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: to the Chiefs and they've lost to the Ravens, So

1046
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,959
Speaker 1: I don't really know which team I want to see

1047
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 1: them face the most. I think I think that I

1048
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: think Baltimore is the more complete of the two teams. Defensively,

1049
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: they are amazing. Offensively, we know what Lamar Jackson can do.

1050
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: Their pass catchers, I think are good enough getting Mark

1051
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: Andrews back at the right time, and I think they

1052
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: will have just enough to get by what I think

1053
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: is going to be really entertaining, really fun game, So

1054
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: it won't be Harball v Harball this time. Around. But

1055
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: I do think we're gonna see the Ravens and the

1056
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: forty nine ers back in the Super Bowl again, and

1057
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: hopefully this time there's no big power outage early in

1058
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: the second half to a delay the game for like

1059
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: half an hour or whatever it was that happened in

1060
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: New Orleans, and then none of the.

1061
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 2: Conspiracy theories of like they did that to make it

1062
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 2: a game, yeah, man, because the Niners started to come

1063
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: back after that, or the Ravens came back and after that.

1064
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: Right, I don't remember I locked that. I was gonna

1065
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: trust your beard, ya, I mean, I blocked that game.

1066
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 1: I blocked that game out. I just remember three freak

1067
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: looking fades to Michael Crabtree in the corner of the

1068
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: end zone to end it. That's all I remember. That's all. Yeah,

1069
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 1: And that was about the time. Was that before or

1070
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 1: after the Richard Sherman exchange. That would have been after,

1071
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: I believe after the Richard Sherman yelling at Aaron Andrews thing.

1072
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I'm all four coaches going for it and

1073
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 2: being aggressive and stuff. But the fade isn't the play.

1074
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 2: You do that one time, try to catch them off guard.

1075
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,959
Speaker 2: After that, let's let's do something else.

1076
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: That was a Greg Roman offense. By the way, just

1077
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: putting that out there, that's all I'm saying. Anyway, enough

1078
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: of that. That is our look at the championship weekend.

1079
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: For sure, it should be a lot of fun. We'll

1080
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: be back next week to kind of talk about what happened.

1081
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: We'll diving some other things. We'll talk about some awards

1082
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,720
Speaker 1: finalists too. I'm probably getting some of these coaches changes

1083
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: as well. We'll find things to occupy our time and

1084
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: your time with as well. Hopefully it's entertaining. But that'll

1085
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

1086
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: A happy, safe, and healthy, do good, and live well.

1087
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: Enjoy Championship weekend everybody, and we'll talk to you next week.