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Speaker 1: Here we go to Tuesday in incredibly packed Tuesday, best

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Speaker 1: It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you

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Speaker 1: I went and I burrowed into the stats this morning

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Speaker 1: on the Chicago Bears last year at this time to

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Speaker 1: this year, and I went to all of last year's

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Speaker 1: Bears games, and then I went to the five they

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Speaker 1: played there, three and two this morning, and it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: They're a touchdown better exactly per game than last year.

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Speaker 1: So remember seven of the twelve losses for the Bears.

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Speaker 1: Last year, we talked about this a lot in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: Seven of the twelve losses were one possession, So do

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Speaker 1: you think an additional touchdown? Last year they averaged eighteen

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Speaker 1: point two this year twenty five point two. So between

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Speaker 1: the organizational structure improvement, the play design, and the play calling,

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Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears have found their coach and he's worth

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Speaker 1: about a touchdown a game to Caleb Williams, a touchdown

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Speaker 1: of games a lot. I predicted before the season that

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Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel, his staff and the new free agents and

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Speaker 1: the draft picks would be worth about six and I

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Speaker 1: thought I was being, you know, a little optimistic game

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Speaker 1: and much better first quarter team, tremendous energy. Ben Johnson

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Speaker 1: gets credit for that. They can win on the road,

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Speaker 1: they can win close. Caleb Williams was good enough. He's

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Speaker 1: never going to be sixty nine percent completion guy. His

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Speaker 1: ball placement is still mid, but he's gifted. He makes

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Speaker 1: all the throws. And what you have with Caleb Williams

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Speaker 1: is all this firepower, all this strength, all this horse power,

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Speaker 1: and Ben Johnson is just pushing it.

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Speaker 3: In the right direction.

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Speaker 1: And Caleb is very amenable to all the coaching. That's

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Speaker 1: not always the case. Caleb deserves credit there. A great

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Speaker 1: head coach can't fix everything. But the Bears didn't need

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Speaker 1: to fix everything. They needed to upgrade their O line,

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Speaker 1: the first quarter. So and again, I look at the

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Speaker 1: in the league not named the Chiefs. They can go

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Speaker 3: They got dudes.

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Speaker 1: They got dudes, Roma Dunze, DJ Moore, Luther Burden. Swift

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Speaker 1: Daniels is more refined and the more accurate quarterback.

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Speaker 3: But he made mistakes. They had a pick, they had.

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Speaker 1: A couple fumbles, and sometimes in the NFL it's this

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Speaker 1: simple win the turnover battle. Like the team that does

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Speaker 1: the Bears last night that didn't make critical mistakes. Anybody

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Speaker 3: That's what the Bears have been doing the last fifteen years.

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Speaker 1: So sometimes improvement is just incremental, step by step, head

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Speaker 1: I don't even know how do you quantify how important

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Speaker 5: And so he did that today and and and he

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a Bears fan, you'll want in

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Speaker 3: Can you say a winning streak?

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Speaker 1: And we'll talk about the schedule later, But I mean

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Speaker 1: you even took a reclamation project at Kicker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had one blocked.

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Speaker 1: This was a B B minus performance and and your

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Speaker 1: But there's a lot left here. We'll talk about their

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Speaker 1: schedule coming up. Okay, now, trouble. Remember when the Warriors,

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Speaker 1: You remember this, The Warriors had Mark Jackson a defensive coach,

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Speaker 1: I'd hire Mark Jackson as a coach, but Steph Curry

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Speaker 1: McDermott's the Mark Jackson when the last time you watched

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Speaker 3: I watch Andy Reid.

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Speaker 1: I think they're broken, or at least stuck, and Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: the mcveigh's Sean Payton are like great engineers. They can tweak,

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Speaker 1: You got to cut back on the defense and Sean McDermott.

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Speaker 1: a move with the trade deadline. How many years can

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Speaker 1: hard Balls. Teams are only getting better. Mike Vrabel got

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Speaker 1: five six games with Drake May. They've now officially become

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Speaker 1: first place New England Patriots. You think they're getting worse

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Speaker 1: you can see the body language. The Bills have faced

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Speaker 1: four wins are against teams that are three and twenty one.

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Speaker 1: They were not better than New England. That was not

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Speaker 1: a shocker when you watched it. New England was better

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Speaker 1: and they're only getting better. I watched Atlanta last night.

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Speaker 1: two big playmakers on the field. Atlanta was better. Pennix,

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Speaker 1: they need to find playmakers, they need to add juice.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not sure McDermott's it.

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Speaker 1: And I think Josh Allen is a great kid and

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Speaker 1: wouldn't say it publicly, but when's the last time you

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Speaker 1: regularly or a McVeigh team and you went.

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Speaker 3: Whoa or Kyle Shanahan. I don't see it.

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Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean McDermott's like a great supervisor, like

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Speaker 1: like a total pro, knows what he's doing. But you

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton have young quarterbacks. They're not getting worse. Rabel

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Speaker 1: Here's Sean McDermott. After the disappointing loss, and we.

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Speaker 6: Got to figure it out.

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Speaker 5: We got to.

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Speaker 6: Dive deep into what we're doing, how we're doing it,

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Speaker 6: So we got we gotta start from grounds here and

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Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills do they make the Herd Hierarchy Top

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Speaker 1: ten because I've watched them now back to back weekends

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Speaker 1: and I'm telling you New England's only getting better, and

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Speaker 1: Did you notice this last night, how comfortable he was?

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Speaker 1: You know who's never comfortable quarterbacks playing the Chiefs. You

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Speaker 4: I do not so.

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Speaker 3: It was a wild night.

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Speaker 1: The Mariners are now up too old to the Jays,

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Speaker 3: What was your take on Chicago?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought Chicago looked kind of like a Detroit

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Speaker 7: Ben Johnson team, run first, DeAndre Swift going crazy and

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Speaker 7: it sets up the past. Caleb looked super comfortable in

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Speaker 7: the pocket. I was pretty stunned. I will just say, though, Colin,

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Speaker 7: you know, if Jayden Daniels doesn't fumble the wet Bultroit,

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Speaker 7: you know we were here with a totally different take right.

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Speaker 4: I mean they had that game locked up. You were

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Speaker 4: looking good at a five and zero. You know, you

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Speaker 4: know what, Washington doesn't fumble.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they did.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, we said this, so much of

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Speaker 1: which last year they did not. So right now, takeaways, giveaways.

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Speaker 1: much of this stuff. I was talking about this yesterday

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Speaker 1: Your quarterback gets hit all the time. There is something

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Speaker 1: don't give it up. You can win twelve games on that,

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Speaker 7: Get him Paula, ignore that fool.

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Speaker 3: Heard hierarchy time.

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Speaker 1: Number ten, New England Patriots' easiest NFL schedule going full.

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Speaker 3: This is not a mirage.

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Speaker 9: find a way to lose it. So this past week

438
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 9: didn't exactly raise my hopes about Denver. But the O

439
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 9: line is excellent and the defense is spectacular, which is

440
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 9: carrying them.

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Speaker 1: So I watched the Bills last night and I'm going

442
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Speaker 1: to throw this at you. I said, there was a

443
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: moment Mark Jackson was a good coach. But he was

444
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: a good coach you kind of felt like, boy, Steph

445
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 1: Curry needs his conductor and they get Steve Kerr And

446
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, So defense is easier to coach, you

447
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: would argue than offense. There's a lot more movement. It

448
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: has to be more choreographed on average, certainly in football.

449
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: And so it worked. And I watched Sean McDermott. I'm like,

450
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 1: he's fine. Is he Mark Jackson? Because once again, because

451
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Speaker 1: once you pay, as you know, once you pay the quarterback,

452
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 1: you're not going to be great. You have to be

453
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Speaker 1: able to turn Juju Smith Schuster into a reliable and

454
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown into more than just a kind of a

455
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: talented guy. And Andy Reid can do it. Andy can

456
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: tweak heith the engineer. He lifts the hood up. He

457
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: can tweak Sean McDermott feels like a really good supervisor.

458
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Speaker 1: Are the Bills issues really the coach?

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Speaker 9: I think it's multifaceted. I think the defense isn't that

460
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 9: good this year. I think that's more probably on Bean

461
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 9: than the coach.

462
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Speaker 4: I think that the.

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Speaker 9: Here's the tough part for me, Well, let me start

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Speaker 9: with the coach. Then I'll get to Josh. In all

465
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Speaker 9: of NFL history, and I keep going back to this

466
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 9: stat because I think it's instructive. Every single coach quarterback

467
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 9: combo that has ever won at least one Super Bowl

468
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 9: together won their first super Bowl together within five years

469
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 9: of being together. For McDermott and Allen and by the way,

470
00:24:55,119 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 9: Lamar and Harball, this is year eight. No one else

471
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 9: has taken this long to have it happen and then.

472
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 4: It actually happened.

473
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Speaker 9: So history tells us for either of those teams to

474
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Speaker 9: get over the hump, they probably will need to at

475
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 9: some point make a change and listen. I think Sean

476
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 9: McDermott is under massive pressure. I think he's a good coach,

477
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 9: and I think that Mark Jackson comp could be a

478
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 9: good one, a good coach, but they've reached their limit

479
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 9: there with that said, and I think Josh Allen is

480
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 9: pretty clearly the second best quarterback in football. And he's

481
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 9: a great player, and that MVP last year made him

482
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 9: a future Hall of Famer, But he lives in a

483
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 9: narrative space with the media that is so unique to me.

484
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 9: I watched after Week three when they beat the Dolphins,

485
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 9: and he played great. One of the most respected members

486
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 9: of the national media say he plays the position better

487
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 9: than anyone in the history of the league. And last

488
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 9: week he turns the ball over three times and they

489
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 9: are and they lose, scoring fourteen points. And you showed

490
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 9: the key fourth down where he flips it like that.

491
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 9: They have the ball three separate times in the fourth

492
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 9: quarter of the chance to tie the game, and see

493
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 9: people seem hesitant to say, hey, Josh, the last two

494
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 9: weeks got outplayed by Drake May and got outplayed by

495
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 9: Michael Pennix.

496
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 4: That shouldn't happen.

497
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Speaker 9: And so like, I think he's the second best player

498
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 9: in the league. I really do, But he's not beyond criticism.

499
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 9: I do think the Bills have structural issues, but the

500
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 9: biggest issue last night was with the offense, and that

501
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 9: to me is more on Josh than anyone else.

502
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 1: So last night, Yeah, so I want to talk about

503
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: Bears and go a little deep on this is that

504
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: if you look at through five games compared to last year,

505
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: they're a touchdown a game better, and that's a lot.

506
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: Last year, seven of the twelve Bears losses were one possession,

507
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 1: so a touchdown is different. Energy last night was incredible.

508
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: But my takeaway and the Bears this year, they've just

509
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 1: eliminated the ridiculous losing on a hail Mary when your

510
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: player is chatting with fans, losing as the clock runs

511
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: out in Detroit, losing six to three, losing a game

512
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: with a block kick. They just run the ball and

513
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: don't turn it over. That so much of what's because

514
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: I still think Jayden Daniels last night is more refined,

515
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: more accurate, and more consistent. Caleb was okay, But my

516
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: takeaway is the Bears have the talent to be really dangerous,

517
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 1: like I'm talking Conference championship biable with their skilled people

518
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: in their pass rush. What Ben's really done is said,

519
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: let's just get rid of the nonsense, run the ball

520
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: and don't turn it over. I don't think the play

521
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: calling is unbelievable. They just don't beat themselves, is what

522
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm seeing.

523
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 9: So yes, I agree with you, and listen. They have

524
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 9: back to back twenty five twenty four wins by the

525
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 9: skin of their one against a Raider team.

526
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 4: That isn't good, even though I thought it would.

527
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 9: Be, and one against a Commander team that I think

528
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 9: is pretty good. And that's how then the Margins are

529
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 9: in this league. If they missed the field goal last night,

530
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 9: or missed the field goal again, or you know, the

531
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 9: Raiders drive down the field and beat them, We're talking.

532
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 9: It's a totally different conversation around the Bears, and they're

533
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 9: probably not much worse or much better.

534
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 4: They had to win last night. You can't win.

535
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 9: The turnover battle three nothing in that spot and lose

536
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 9: that game. And I also think that the how crowded

537
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 9: the NFC playoff picture is, last night's game might be

538
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 9: a tiebreaker that determines a playoff spot between these two teams.

539
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 4: It was wildly important.

540
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 9: Where I would be optimistic if I'm Chicago is I

541
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 9: don't think Caleb has played great yet. I think he

542
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 9: will continue to get better. I do think you're right

543
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 9: that Ben Johnson is right now on the most vanilla

544
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 9: part of the playbook as he slowly tries to build

545
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 9: it up. I also, however, do want to be fair,

546
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 9: and I know Jaden has earned far more of a.

547
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 4: Benefit of doubt van Caleb.

548
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 9: And I know last night was weird and Jaden's coming

549
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 9: off an injury and it was rainy, but the pick

550
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 9: Jaden threw took points off the board and was brutal.

551
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 9: And if Caleb Williams had mishandled a snap into a

552
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 9: fumble with four minutes left in a game they were leading,

553
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 9: we would be killing it. I'm not trying to kill

554
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 9: Jaden for it, by the way.

555
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 4: It was a weird game.

556
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 9: Mistakes happened, But I do think we have to be

557
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 9: you know, kind of measured and fair with the expectations

558
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 9: for Caleb.

559
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 4: Where they're at now.

560
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 9: I also think it you know, if you would have

561
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 9: asked anyone in the world going into the draft, who

562
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 9: the overwhelming consensus who's the best was Caleb at the

563
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 9: end of last year, the overwhelming consensus would have been Jaden.

564
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 9: Right now this moment, it feels like the overwhelming consensus

565
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 9: would be Drake May. Like these things are fluid and

566
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 9: it's going to there's going to be a lot of

567
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 9: different iterations over the next three four seasons between those

568
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 9: top three picks.

569
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Speaker 1: So I want to end with Baker Mayfield because you know,

570
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: and I've told you this, I like him. I think

571
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: he's a good guy. I just I thought he was

572
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: a reach at number one, and I didn't think he

573
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: had the maturity I wanted to in a dysfunctional Cleveland

574
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: and I thought that's not a great fit. And it

575
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: ended up when Stefanski got there, it wasn't a great fit,

576
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: even though he won a playoff game. But I watch

577
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: him now and he said, you know, he used to

578
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: say I was cocky and now I'm a dog and

579
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: it's all the same. And my take is, you're too

580
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: smart not to grow up. We all grow up. We

581
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: all learn from our mistakes. If you're reasonably bright. Why

582
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: do you think because he's six', one not a super,

583
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: athlete he's always thrown a great deep. Ball what do

584
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: you think to turn around is he says he's the same.

585
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: GUY i think he's too smart to be the same.

586
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: Guy how do you explain this metamorphosis in his young.

587
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 9: Career, WELL i agree with him in this regard that

588
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 9: him chirping at the fan that he did In seattle

589
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 9: would have been met with scorn had he done it

590
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 9: as a, rookie and now is met with you, know

591
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 9: that's what Makes Baker. Baker but that IS i, mean

592
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 9: that's not unique to. HIM i mean what he SAID

593
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 9: i think is. Correct was IT i know this is

594
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 9: cliche and it's, fiction but.

595
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 4: Was it any given?

596
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 9: Sunday what was it where the guy would throw up

597
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 9: before the game or during the. Game and one of

598
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 9: his teammates was, like, listen if we're, winning people will

599
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 9: think that's, awesome and if we're, losing they're gonna, say you're.

600
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 9: Scared it's the same thing like that is pretty common across.

601
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 9: SPORTS i, think, honestly what happened With baker was he

602
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 9: got better as his career went.

603
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 4: On he you, know became a more refined.

604
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 9: PLAYER i think he understood better his limitations as far

605
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 9: as his speed and ability to escape the pass. Rush

606
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 9: and now his best scrambles seem to be where it

607
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 9: looks like he's dead to rights and it's less about

608
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 9: speed and more about, toughness and SO i think that has.

609
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 9: HELPED i think he is, now you, know he is

610
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 9: in a far more functional organization than The, browns he

611
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 9: has better, weapons even though this past week they were all.

612
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 9: Hurt AND i also do think in professional football the

613
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 9: thing he has that really has always mattered is he

614
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 9: Is AND i know it sounds, corny but he is

615
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 9: a true, alpha and those guys love. HIM i think

616
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 9: that when you're a to, me it is the opposite

617
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 9: of the DYNAMIC i feel Between tua and his. Teammates

618
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 9: it feels Like tua's teammates are waiting for him to

619
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 9: throw them under the.

620
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 4: BUS i think they roll their.

621
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 9: EYES i think he makes a bunch of mistakes and

622
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 9: then he talks about other guys being late for, meetings

623
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 9: AND i think that has a real negative impact on the.

624
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 9: TEAM i think with The, bucks they See baker to

625
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 9: the exact.

626
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 4: Opposite always build.

627
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 9: Guys, up always try to lead from the, front and

628
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 9: be one of the toughest guys playing the, position and

629
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 9: it gives everyone more, confidence it makes everyone play, better

630
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 9: and SO i think it's an all time great. STORY

631
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 9: i think to be a walk on to A Heisman

632
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 9: trophy winning or number one, pick to trade and to

633
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 9: cut to fighting With Kyle trask for a, job to

634
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 9: now be THE mvp of the, league through six weeks

635
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 9: and it looks like it's going to come down to

636
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 9: him And patrick over the course of the. Year is

637
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 9: really one of the coolest stories in.

638
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 4: My professional career in this.

639
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 9: League it's such a unique arc and one that no

640
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 9: one else is going to. Have And, COLIN i think

641
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 9: they are super. Dangerous they have a tough next six

642
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 9: weeks and in the end of the year they Have carolina,

643
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 9: twice they Have, arizona they Have New, orleans they Have,

644
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 9: atlanta they have one OTHER i Think. Miami he could

645
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 9: go into the playoffs thirteen and four the number one,

646
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 9: seed a.

647
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 4: Six game winning.

648
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 9: Streak this can absolutely be a Super bowl team and

649
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 9: he absolutely can be THE.

650
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 4: Mvp of the.

651
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 1: League Nick, Wright first things, first As, Ohays, buddy great

652
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: talking to, you great Senior, Kon yeah it. Is. YEAH

653
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 1: i mean when you look At, baker that's a franchise. Quarterback,

654
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: similarly when you look At Sam, darnold you, know a

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Speaker 1: lot of people are, like, Hey sam's a great. Story,

656
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: No Gino, smith that was a great. Story he's not

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00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: a great. Player baker's a great. Player sam's a great.

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00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: Player there are great stories like Justin, Fields, oh he's

659
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: gonna Be he's not a great, players not.

660
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 3: Even a good.

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Speaker 1: Player so but The Darnald baker stuff is about this

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00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: new group of lots and lots of smart football out

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00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: there for older coaches willing to embrace it or younger coaches.

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00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: Ascending But donald's a franchise. Quarterback there's no reason For

665
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: seattle to draft. One they've got their, guy and for the,

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Speaker 1: Record minnesota probably privately wishes they still Had darnold