1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Every day Up wait, click up the Breakfast Club finish 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: for y'all. 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: Done morning. 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 3: Everybody is DJ Envy just hilarious, Charlamagne, the gud we 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 3: are the Breakfast Club Law and the Roses here as well. 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 4: We got a special guest in the building, indeed, the 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 4: brother Raja Caruth. 8 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 5: Welcome, feeling great, Thank you guys for having me on. 9 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 4: Now, who is Rajah? Carew for people that don't. 10 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 5: Know so uh, like you said, my name is Raja. 11 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 5: I was born in Atlanta, but grew up in DC 12 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 5: and I guess I do many things, but mainly currently 13 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 5: I race in NASCAR. So but yeah, HBC graduate, grew 14 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 5: up in d C and racing at NASCAR second highest level. 15 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 4: And how did you get into NASCAR? Like, what what 16 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 4: got you into it? 17 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: I think it's I want to say something. 18 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: Your story is very ill because you you used you 19 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: used to drive the simulator. Yeah, you turned virtual racing 20 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: into a real life career. 21 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 5: Yeah. Have y'all seen the Grand Tourisma movie. It's pretty 22 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 5: much like that just ten years I guess down the 23 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 5: line coming from Cribbean parent. My dad's right here in 24 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 5: the back of being from Saint Vincent. 25 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 4: Grand Tarisma his parents with CARIBBEANSO, yeah exactly. 26 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 5: So yeah, like you said, Charlotte and I I grew 27 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 5: up watching racing and was a big fan. But I 28 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 5: mean I played other sports like I played basketball, ran track, 29 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 5: play soccer, but I always loved racing. And since I 30 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 5: grew up in DC, there wasn't any any tracks or 31 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 5: anything nearby, so I had to get it from racing 32 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 5: online and learning how to drive from the computer. 33 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: So you did, Is that something you wanted to do? 34 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: Or the love came from just being on the symney. 35 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 5: Now, the love came from like the Cars movie, watching 36 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 5: races on TV. I once my first race at Richmond 37 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 5: in when I was probably twelve, So that's where the 38 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 5: love really really grew. And I mean I'd watch everything 39 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 5: I could about racing, from like sports talks shows to 40 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 5: people playing the games online. I just was a deep, 41 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 5: deep fan of racing. 42 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: Did you have to steal your father's car? 43 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 5: No, I mean I never. I never drove so I 44 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 5: was fifteen years old. I mean you could just take 45 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 5: the metro or walk or get limescooters in DC. So 46 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 5: I mean you don't really need to drive just like here. 47 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 6: So what's are like day to day like at work, 48 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 6: So like how does it as a NASCAR driver? So 49 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 6: you go, you don't clock in like normal, Like what 50 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 6: is a normal day in a life of a NASCAR driver? 51 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 5: So basically for like we train like endurance athletes. So 52 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 5: we'll have our you know, Mondays through Thursdays, whenever we 53 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 5: return from the previous race weekend, We'll have our pre 54 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 5: and pros race debriefs with our teams because I think 55 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 5: compared to other sports, racing is so different where the 56 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 5: driver is a key factor, but also is the car 57 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 5: and the team and your pit crew. So we have 58 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 5: all our meetings with our engineers, our crew chiefs that 59 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 5: are over the car development, but also our pit crew 60 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 5: members to analyze how they can improve, how we can 61 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 5: improve behind the wheel, and how we can get the 62 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 5: car better. We have simulator training at our Chevy's facility. 63 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 5: Well with every manufacturer has a big kind of training 64 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 5: facility where we have our simulators. Corporate offices all pretty 65 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 5: much based in North Carolina. And for us and me 66 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 5: being at Chevy, I mean we're there. I'm there Monday 67 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 5: through Thursday where we're training, We're on the simulators, we're 68 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 5: having our meetings with our race teams, and that's kind 69 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 5: of our our week to week basis, and then we 70 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 5: leave on Thursdays or Fridays to go travel to wherever 71 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 5: we race. We were at Vegas last weekend. We're in Darlington, 72 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 5: South Carolina this weekend. So yeah, it's a it's a 73 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 5: traveling circus for the whole year pretty much. 74 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,839 Speaker 2: They call you very analytical and very composed. 75 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 5: I'm a nerd. 76 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: I don't like the I mean, I know people like 77 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: to use that word, but I like that. I'd like 78 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: smart people. But how does that help you on the racetrack? 79 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 4: I guess. 80 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 5: I guess to be super calculated is the way that 81 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 5: that helps. You have to obviously use your instincts, right, 82 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 5: because everything is happening within splits of a seconds, moving 83 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 5: at hundreds of miles per hour, with the wall being 84 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 5: right next to you, other cars being right next to you, 85 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 5: the wind being super turbulent. Yeah, you have to be 86 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 5: super aware of what's going on. And I think it 87 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 5: speaks to my personality but also my preparation of just 88 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 5: being that calculated and prepared for whatever situations may arise. 89 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: Related to actually being on the track. 90 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 5: I'd say it's pretty close, but it's you can never 91 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 5: replicate real life because there's weather, there's maybe a new 92 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 5: bump that develops in a racetrack that you can't forecast, 93 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 5: there's new rule changes every time. But what's great about 94 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 5: the simulator is that the one we have at Chevrolet, 95 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 5: it has our literally every part and piece of the 96 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 5: car is replicated on there to where we can drive 97 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 5: and change whether it's a piece of the suspension, move 98 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 5: a body panel a certain way to see if it'll 99 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 5: work in real life, and then nine times out of 100 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 5: ten it's perfect for what we have to do at 101 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 5: the racetrack. So it's super super important, and it's great 102 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 5: practice for us drivers just to be able to get 103 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 5: repetition on the corners. It's kind of like tap dancing 104 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 5: with how we're using the brake and the gas pedal 105 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 5: and all the instruments in the car. 106 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: So Lou to John Cohen, he was he's a black 107 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 3: race call owner. He owns a team, a New York 108 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 3: City race team is his team. He was telling me 109 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 3: how difficult it is to find members, because he was like, 110 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: it's so detailed, So breakdown. You talked about the team, 111 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 3: how important everybody is from the PI crew and what 112 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: they have to do. 113 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 4: But if they mess up. 114 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: That affects your time and that's a whole race. YEA, 115 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: So break that down because people only see the driver 116 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: most of the times. But if your crew eight right, 117 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: if this ain't right, if the guy you talking to 118 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: eight and right, to break that down of how detailed 119 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: and how difficult that part, Yeah, for sure, it's It's 120 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 3: very similar to I think special teams in the NFL. 121 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 5: I mean every member of the team is important. From 122 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 5: our hollow driver that drives the equipment to the racetrack 123 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 5: and make sure it gets there safe, to our spotters 124 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 5: that are on top of the highest point on the 125 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 5: track and communicating with us drivers, to our PI crew 126 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 5: members like you mentioned. If one of our wheels aren't 127 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 5: aren't tight, then that's a day end or whether it's 128 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 5: damaging the wheel or causing us to crash. Not to 129 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 5: mention how important it is to have the car set 130 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 5: up as close as it can be to you know, 131 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 5: be able to drive to the front. So our teams 132 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 5: are super important and as much as the drivers. The 133 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 5: face racing is as much of a team sport as 134 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,679 Speaker 5: anything because it's not just the one star person. It's 135 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 5: the whole team that that matters and helps to get 136 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 5: the job done. 137 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 4: How competitive is it? You know? We look at these movies, 138 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 4: right and we see these races. 139 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 3: And they're cutting each other off and it curves like 140 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: that and sometimes you see them fighting after. How competitive 141 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 3: is it? And what's the respect level on on on 142 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: the track? Like sometimes they cut like you're not supposed 143 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 3: to do that, but I just know this, it is 144 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: what it is. 145 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there's definitely definitely different etiquette. And then 146 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 5: you kind of see uh, the old the old guard 147 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 5: of drivers being different from the new guard drivers, and 148 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 5: it kind of speaks to people's personalities right where there's 149 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 5: there's a certain situation where hey, I'm gonna do this 150 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 5: to you because I know you would do it to me, 151 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 5: whether it's throwing a block or putting somebody in a 152 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 5: tight scenario. So it's just different etiquettes. Everybody's got different etiquettes. 153 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 5: And I think what's cool about NASCAR is it's a 154 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 5: contact sport where in other forms of racing, whether it's 155 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 5: Formula One in the car, the racing etiquette is just 156 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 5: different just because of contact. 157 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 4: Contact means we touch each other. 158 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 5: Yea normal car it's normal, if anything, you can At 159 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 5: certain tracks like Atlanta or Daytona, it's important to push 160 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 5: somebody else because it gives yourself a better chance at winning. 161 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 5: So there's there's levels to the contact that are required, 162 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 5: not every time because then you'll damage your car and 163 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 5: it'll be slower, but it's it's important because it's just 164 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 5: the true etiquette of the racing of NASCAR that makes 165 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 5: it super cool. 166 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 6: So you know how like with basketball players like or 167 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 6: football players, right when you're training, you watching tape, you 168 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 6: kind of know what so you know what drivers like 169 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 6: their little tricks exactly. 170 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, So we have like a GPS program that records 171 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 5: every race and you can look at every car and 172 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 5: see literally every lap of the race and see, all right, 173 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 5: they decided to do this move here because of what 174 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 5: they saw in front of them or what they felt 175 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 5: in the car. We can see how they're steering, how 176 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 5: they're breaking, how they're using the gas, the literally the 177 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 5: g forces that they're creating in the car. It's that's 178 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 5: our way to study film. It's just analyzing each race, 179 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 5: every practice, every time time trial session. That that's kind 180 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 5: of the equivalent for us. 181 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 7: What's been the biggest challenge stepping into the NASCAR National spotlight. 182 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 5: Honestly the regular I would say, for me, it's I'm 183 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 5: a pretty introverted person, so being comfortable with being as 184 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 5: approachable at the racetrack to fans was an adjustment for me. 185 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 5: But honestly, like in the sport, like everybody's been cool 186 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 5: for the most part, Like because I have the interest, 187 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 5: the passion and the work to go with it, Like, 188 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 5: everybody's been super cool. So I definitely will say to 189 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 5: mention you mentioned before getting to this level, it definitely 190 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 5: was harder to get my foot in the door from 191 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 5: a not only starting so late, but coming from my 192 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 5: background that made it immensely more harder than it would 193 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 5: be for Uh. Maybe I shouldn't say that because everybody's 194 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 5: grind is different, but I think personally like it was 195 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 5: way harder to get in the door than it has 196 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 5: been to kind of climb through the ladder. 197 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 4: How did you get your foot in the door. 198 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, So for me, I started racing on the simulator. 199 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 5: I was fifteen or sixteen, and I started to go 200 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 5: to races and hand out business cards and say, hey, 201 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 5: I'm a young driver trying to make a name for 202 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 5: myself racing online. NASCAR had a driver development program that 203 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 5: I applied for in twenty nineteen, and they had a 204 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 5: whole combine tryout where it was not just how well 205 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 5: you can drive, it's what your your physicality is, how 206 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 5: strong you are, how you handle press, how you handle 207 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 5: your team communication, just seeing all the traits that are 208 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 5: required to really be a successful driver. And I did 209 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 5: well enough in that program in twenty nineteen to come 210 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 5: on and get developed through the kind of regional levels 211 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 5: of NASCAR where we raced in parts of South Carolina, 212 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 5: North Carolina, Virginia, Georgia, just kind of getting the real 213 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 5: sticks of it. And that's really how I got started. 214 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 5: So and that was super hard, just because I was 215 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 5: coming from growing up in DC, where I mean, I 216 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 5: just I it was normal to exist right and being 217 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 5: in those places where I was not only a lot 218 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 5: of times the youngest person, but the youngest black person 219 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 5: in the room. Where I mean, I moved from DC 220 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 5: when I was eighteen. I was living in North Carolina 221 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 5: by myself, while I was going to school at Winston, 222 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 5: at the race shop, at the track, I was pretty 223 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 5: much a lot of times the only person that looked 224 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 5: like me. So I think that was definitely a challenge 225 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 5: to get started, but it just really allowed me to 226 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 5: get confident in my identity, really my Caribbean background, my raising, 227 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 5: my education, and that helped me really persevere. 228 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that, right, You came through simulation, like 229 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: you said, and you're a young black man. Do you 230 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: ever feel like you're disrupting the culture of NASCAR? Do 231 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: you feel pressure to prove you belonging. 232 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 5: I think I'm definitely breaking the mold for sure, And 233 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 5: I really have an appreciation for the teams that I'm 234 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 5: at where they've seen me as not just as not 235 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 5: as I'm only here for a certain reason. They see 236 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 5: me for not only my ability, but how I'm showing 237 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 5: up and how I'm prepared to perform and taking the 238 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 5: accountability and doing the work and really performing well when 239 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 5: it matters the most. 240 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: So when you walk in a garage right that historically 241 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: hasn't looked like you, are you thinking about winning races? 242 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 2: Are you just trying to change narratives? 243 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 5: I think they work hand in hand. I think the 244 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 5: success on the track is going to help everything else. 245 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 5: And I have such a deep appreciation for the sport 246 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 5: of NASCAR in particular and racing as a whole that 247 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 5: I know all the other stuff will come naturally as 248 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 5: long as I keep the main thing, the main thing, 249 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 5: which is trying to be the best driver that I 250 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 5: can do. 251 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: You hear what he said, keep the main thing, the 252 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 2: main thing. 253 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: That's a jewl. A lot of people don't do that, 254 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They try to do all 255 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: the side quests. You got to keep the. 256 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: Main thing, the main thing. 257 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 6: I saw Bubba Wallace praise you for opening a season 258 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 6: with the top with three top ten finishes while driving 259 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 6: for two different teams. And we know that he's had, 260 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 6: like you know, issues when it comes to race in 261 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 6: different things within NASCAR. What's your relationship like with Bubba? 262 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a big bro. That's a big bro. I 263 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 5: mean literally from my first ever regional race. He's been 264 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 5: there every every step of the way. And it's super 265 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 5: important to have somebody like that in your corner that's 266 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 5: paying attention and knows kind of the cards you've been 267 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 5: dealt ye And it's been great to have him in 268 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 5: my corner. And I mean we although we're at two, 269 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 5: he's with Toyota, I will shove relay. I mean He's 270 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 5: been there every step of the way for me, So 271 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 5: that that's big, bro. And it's been great because the 272 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 5: things that he's had to endure, he's allowed it to 273 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 5: wear for drivers like myself, like LeVar Scott that are 274 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 5: in the wings and coming up that we don't have 275 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 5: to deal with with those certain things. And in that 276 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 5: same vein that's how Wendell Scott did it for him 277 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 5: and Willie t Ribbs and Bill Lester and all those 278 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 5: you know before us. 279 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: Is that cost sponsorship thing, like really that big of 280 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: a deal because you said a thing. 281 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 5: I'm Chevy, and I mean it's serious. It's serious because 282 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 5: I mean the manufacturers are really what drive NASCAR at 283 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 5: the end of the day, where in other sports, right 284 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 5: there's the owners of the teams. I think the owners 285 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 5: of NASCAR are a big deal as well, but s 286 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 5: are the manufacturers because I mean those are the cars 287 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 5: that we're driving at the end of the day, So 288 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 5: that that's a big role. They play a huge, huge 289 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 5: role in in our sport. 290 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: He just Witch sides, you got to be Chevy for life. 291 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't want to leave Chevy for sure. 292 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 5: I Mean it's not uncommon for people to leave manufacturers, 293 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 5: and that can be because hey, the team closed, or 294 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 5: they need to swap, or they have a new guy 295 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 5: that bumps an old guy out out of the seat. 296 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 5: So it's kind of more a case by case scenario. 297 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 5: But what's different in NASCAR compared to other sports is 298 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 5: that right in the NBA, the NFL, MLB, you have 299 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 5: these annual drafts and there's always a rotation of young 300 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 5: talent and Racingly, there's only forty guys at the Cup 301 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 5: level and there's maybe one or two seats that turn 302 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 5: over on an annual basis, So there's just a lot 303 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 5: of young drivers trying to come up through the ladder 304 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 5: and very few spots to go into, so you have 305 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 5: to set yourself apart. And that's why, for the most part, 306 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 5: you don't see a young driver in the Cup series 307 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 5: that is eighteen. You only see that every once in 308 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 5: a while. Otherwise you only see drivers make their first 309 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 5: Cup Stars when they're mid twenties plus or minus a 310 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 5: few years maybe even early thirties, just because of how 311 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 5: there's not as much turnover at the top level. 312 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: What's the biggest mental adjustment you had to make when 313 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: the consequences from like just being able to. 314 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: Reset the game, turn it out. I'm actually in a 315 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: car and this is real life. 316 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 5: That's a great question. Literally my second race, I hit 317 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 5: the wall on the second lap and I was like, dang, 318 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 5: this is not as easy as I thought it would be. 319 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 5: I remember, like the first time I flipped, the first 320 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 5: time I crashed somebody else or myself. But those experiences 321 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 5: are like super important because those mistakes allow you not 322 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 5: to make them again, and those lessons are super important. 323 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 5: So adjusting from the sin to real life, Honestly, it 324 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 5: wasn't too hard from an athletic standpoint because I had 325 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 5: that background of playing other sports growing up, so I 326 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 5: wasn't tired from a physical stance. It just was what 327 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 5: I mentally required to be aware of how the tire feels, 328 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 5: how you feel an air, and the spacing of being 329 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 5: close to the wall or other people. I think that 330 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 5: was the adjustment that I had to make as I 331 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 5: grew my experience racing regionally before going to the national level. 332 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 4: Now you said flipped over what happened with that race? 333 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 5: Okay, So that race, I was in a dirt race 334 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 5: race where it was it was a race for practice, 335 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 5: and we a lot of times, NASCAR drivers will go 336 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 5: race on dirt, race go carts, race other forms of 337 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 5: racing to really get better at what we do. And 338 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 5: I was racing on dirt and I somebody hit the 339 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 5: wall and I try to avoid them, and it's dirt, 340 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 5: so you like can't really stop. And I next thing 341 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 5: I knew, I was like barreling. And it is that scary? No, 342 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 5: it just hurt. Yeah, I mean no. The thing is 343 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 5: the thing about flipping is it's not the flipping that 344 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 5: is the issue. Is if when you stop abruptly or 345 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 5: you land, that's the part where people get hurt. Whether 346 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 5: they land you know, flat on the on the bottom 347 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 5: of the yeah, the impact and they'll have back injuries 348 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 5: and stuff like that, or have a just a sudden stop. 349 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 5: So if anything, flipping isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's 350 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 5: just whenever you abruptly stop. So didn't feel great, But 351 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 5: now I know. 352 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: How do you know you're not gonna die? 353 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we have faith in our safety. I mean, 354 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 5: there's so many advancements that they've made over the last 355 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 5: twenty five years that make it a where it's not 356 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 5: a thing that I mean, we don't take it for 357 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 5: granted for sure, but the cars are way safer than 358 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 5: they used to be. I mean, our head and neck 359 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 5: restraint systems are super good. I mean our seats are 360 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 5: literally crafted to our stature, our bodies, so we're like 361 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 5: we're literally not like locked in the seat, but like 362 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 5: pretty much memory foam to our body to make sure 363 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 5: that we're not moving around a lot whenever we have 364 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 5: those crashes and that was. 365 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 7: The worst thing that ever happened to be like the 366 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 7: worst accident that you've had. 367 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 5: Well yeah, so far, yeah yeah, I mean, and crashes 368 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 5: are honestly just a part of racing. I mean that's 369 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 5: something you accept because it's just part of what we do. 370 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 5: I mean, we were going so fast, we're so close 371 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 5: to each other, there's bound to be incidents from the 372 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 5: time to time. I mean I crashed two weeks ago. 373 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's normal. 374 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: You say, so rear. 375 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 3: So when you're not racing in your personal call, do 376 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 3: people pull up to you and be like, let's race 377 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 3: it because they know. 378 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 5: What you honestly? 379 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 2: No. 380 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 5: But the thing is, I don't have like a a 381 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 5: super fast like normal car. I have, well, I have 382 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 5: a Chevy Traverse, but my my fun car is a 383 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 5: Chevy SS twenty seventeen, and that car is nice because 384 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 5: I can just keep it on like the tour, like 385 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 5: easy gas mode, so it's not super loud, but I 386 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 5: can like change to exhaust with a little dial in 387 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 5: there to like you know, open them up and have 388 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 5: it be a little bit louder. 389 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: But you're not even allowed to drive nothing but Chevy period. 390 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure you could, but I mean, I 391 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 5: like you no, I know, I mean I could, but 392 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 5: I mean I don't really want to. I like to 393 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 5: like what I've got right now, like. 394 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 2: Being signed to Jordan. Why would you wear other sneakers 395 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: if you signed Great point exactly? 396 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 4: So when you're in the regular road, you're chilling like 397 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 4: you ain't even. 398 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, the thing is that I have to 399 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 5: be more patient on the regular road because I know 400 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 5: just the general like IQ isn't as high as the racetrack, 401 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 5: and just the overall awareness of the road, like somebody 402 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 5: could try to merge lanes and not know there's somebody 403 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 5: like right there in their blind spot. Or actually I 404 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,239 Speaker 5: was in Atlanta a couple of weeks ago and I 405 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 5: was getting over or on the exit going to the 406 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 5: airport like two forty two or whatever on eighty five, 407 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 5: and I literally saw a crash happening before it happened, 408 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 5: I'm like, watch, this person is gonna try to get 409 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 5: in this hole and lo and behold they all crash. 410 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: So so physically you still got to kind of like 411 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: be in shape. 412 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 5: Right for sure? 413 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? 414 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean for the drivers, because we race for 415 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 5: three hours at a time, we have such long, such 416 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 5: long periods of time where we're having to focus on 417 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,239 Speaker 5: driving the car that you can't be thinking about how 418 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 5: you feel because then you're gonna lose focus. So for us, 419 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 5: like obviously our cardio has got to be in check, 420 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 5: but we have to have like a good baseline of 421 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 5: strength because of the g forces we're feeling. We have 422 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 5: our helmets, our belts, three layers of fireproof gear where 423 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 5: it's like hundreds of degrees in the car and you 424 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 5: have to just be able to deal with all that 425 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 5: and be mentally clear and not have any fog to 426 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 5: be able to perform. So those races for three sometimes yeah, three, 427 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 5: if not more personally, don't because if you're racing some people, 428 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 5: a lot of people to sweat like they sweat so 429 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 5: they don't have to. Every once in a while I've 430 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 5: heard drivers talk about like peing on themselves, but me personally, 431 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 5: that's crazy. You sweat out no no, no, no, no, no, 432 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 5: like sweat out the fluids, the fluids. 433 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: That's what I mean. You can do that. That can 434 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: replace P. 435 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 4: I guess so because P is you? 436 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 5: Well right, yeah, I'm saying like like before like and 437 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 5: plus you're so you have so much adrenaline that you're 438 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 5: not really thinking about having. But like usually after the race, 439 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 5: like once you're adrenaline dies down, there's like all I 440 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 5: got to use the bathroom, but usually not really while 441 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 5: while you're driving. 442 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: I'm a guy who loves therapy. I love meditation and 443 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: stuff like that. So does that player role too? 444 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 5: For sure? 445 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 2: Mentally and emotionally you gotta be one hundred percent. 446 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. I've had a therapist now for three four years, 447 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 5: and a black woman at that, and it's been such 448 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 5: a great addition to my life to know that, like 449 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 5: I can grind and put all out of that have 450 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 5: into this racing thing, but know that there's more to 451 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 5: me and there's more out there than the racing thing. 452 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 5: And it's great because there's not as much of a 453 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 5: pressure of sacrifice where I don't feel like there's nothing 454 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 5: else or I'm nothing without my job or my profession. 455 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 5: And she's done a great job and added a lot 456 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 5: of value to my life. And I highly recommend that 457 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 5: for a lot of people. It's it's been such a 458 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 5: great tool, like you mentioned, just to have that mental 459 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 5: awareness of your emotions and you grow a lot of 460 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 5: us athletes and business professionals like grind so hard at 461 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 5: our jobs that I think a lot of times people 462 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 5: pass on how they're mentally feeling and checking in and 463 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 5: so I think that's something that's super important. 464 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 2: What led you to it? What led you to it? There? 465 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 5: I had a lot of people or a few people 466 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 5: in my life that really recommended me doing it, and 467 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 5: I just was. I kind of just read the band 468 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 5: aid off and said why not? And that was a 469 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 5: great time. I was a second year at Winston Salem 470 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 5: State and that was just a perfect time to add 471 00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 5: that to my life. 472 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: What else do you do of it? 473 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 7: In car? 474 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean I love going outside, so I'm well, 475 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 5: not hunting, but like I like being in nature, so 476 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 5: going on runs, bike rides, hikes, I love going outside. 477 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 5: Growing up in DC, like Rock Creek Park is like 478 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 5: right in the middle of the city, so I spent 479 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 5: a lot of time there, like biking and going on 480 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 5: runs for track and stuff in school. Uh through there. 481 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 5: And I love basketball and really just all DC sports, 482 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 5: so I'm a sports fan. I also love like comic 483 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 5: books and stuff, so all all the MC U d C. Stuff. 484 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 5: I saw the Spider Man trailer this one. Yeah, that's 485 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 5: so excited. So but yeah, I love uh, you know, 486 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 5: comic books and superhero movies and all that stuff too. 487 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,479 Speaker 5: And yeah, Milestone in the Milestone Stone Comics. 488 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: M oh, I got to put you on the Milestone Comics. 489 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: Static Shock and hardware I got. 490 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 5: I just got Static Shock. But I'm starting Absolute Batman 491 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 5: right now. 492 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: Oh with with Static Shock U yeah, the other Batman back. 493 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: I got the first issue. Yeah, I just started that. 494 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 3: So and what's what's your relationship with rock Nation? I 495 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 3: see the pin here you signed a rock Nation No, but. 496 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,479 Speaker 5: I just I mean, I get a lot of planes 497 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 5: merchant and I love the products. So yeah, I've known 498 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 5: Lenny and Tito and all of them for a while 499 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,239 Speaker 5: and they've been super super cool to me. And went 500 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 5: to the Goal party a couple of nights ago in 501 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 5: LA and that was a lot of fun as well. 502 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: You know, NASCAR is as much about sponsorship as it 503 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: is about skill. How do you balance being authentic while 504 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: still will also being marketable. 505 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 5: I think for it, I've been fortunate because I can 506 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 5: just be myself and that takes care of it. I 507 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 5: think you have to be comfortable with doing things that 508 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 5: are out of your comfort zone for the greater good 509 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 5: of not only the sport but your brand. And like 510 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 5: I said, I'm pretty fortunate because I can just be 511 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 5: myself and naturally with my background and who I represent 512 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 5: and my interests and whatnot, like that naturally happens. So 513 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 5: like you mentioned with how the car is so important 514 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 5: with our manufacturers and stuff, the sponsorship is super important 515 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 5: as well. So you got to show these brands that hey, 516 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 5: you're getting not just a great driver, but a great 517 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 5: spokesperson for your brand and a good athlete and all 518 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,239 Speaker 5: the intangibles that come with it. 519 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 6: If somebody is like coming up and wants to be 520 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 6: in your position with NASCAR, what should they be doing, 521 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 6: like branding wise, like on social and stuff like that 522 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 6: outside is learning the skill. 523 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 5: I think you just got to set yourself apart, where 524 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,479 Speaker 5: for me, my background was sim racing. So I mean 525 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 5: I've been twitch streaming for years. I mean from when 526 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 5: I had five viewers to now, you know, one hundred 527 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 5: or so, where I'm just streaming while I'm driving and 528 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 5: racing and talking to people in the chat. And that's 529 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 5: something that others can do, whether it's documenting their days 530 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 5: at the go cart track or hey, this is the 531 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 5: workout I did or this is the film that I studied, 532 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 5: just kind of showcasing what makes them unique. I think 533 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 5: it's the biggest thing that works. There's so many there's 534 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 5: so much uniqueness out there that I don't think that 535 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 5: people need to try to follow directly what other drivers 536 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 5: or what other people do. I think it's important to 537 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 5: keep that identity that and just be themselves. 538 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you know, there aren't 539 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: a lot of black drivers at your level. Do you 540 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: embrace the responsibility or do you sure just race without 541 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: carrying that week I'm just. 542 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 5: Not Wait, I think it's a responsibility I cherish. I 543 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 5: think it's it's for me to have more people like 544 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 5: us in the track. Is it's fun because I have 545 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 5: that love for racing, and if I can share that 546 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 5: to more of us, then I can, you know, I 547 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 5: can be very proud of that. 548 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 6: In your line of work, do you ever experience burnout, 549 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 6: like not physical burnout like the car but you're not 550 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 6: like okay, because for sure, how do you deal with 551 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 6: that though, because your job is so physical. 552 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 5: That's a great question I think for us. I mean, 553 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 5: we go literally from Valentine's Day to the first week 554 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 5: of November, like only a couple off weeks, and luckily, 555 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 5: I would say probably a third of the schedule are 556 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 5: since we're all based in Charlotte or around the Charlotte area, 557 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 5: well there's a third of the schedule where we'll be 558 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 5: able to just drive to the races where they're only 559 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 5: like two or three hours at most away from the 560 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 5: Mecca area. So that helps with like the travel burnout. 561 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 5: But that's why you got to have other things in 562 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 5: a good like circle of life to go with you 563 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 5: and not just be all work, whether it like for me, 564 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 5: whether it's just to go to the y and get 565 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 5: shot up or play the game or watch other sports. 566 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 5: I think you have to have that circle of life 567 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 5: personally with your family, your friends, to where you have 568 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 5: other things going on and your emotions and your your 569 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 5: attitude isn't defined by how good or bad the previous 570 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 5: races go. 571 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 7: That's why I asked you what you do because I 572 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 7: know this, This takes up a lot of the time. 573 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, definitely, definitely well. 574 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: I am proud to say that this weekend at the 575 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: NASCAR O'Reilly Auto Parts Series on Saturday, a Rajah will 576 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: compete in a Black Effect podcast Network. 577 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 2: Camaro. I can't wait to see black Black. 578 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 4: A picture so we can see it. I would love 579 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 4: to see it always. 580 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see it. 581 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 6: You designed with the brand. 582 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 5: I did not personally design it, but it's fire race. 583 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 2: I think I am. I didn't want to tell everybody that, 584 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 2: but a. 585 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 5: Part of the Darlington, South Carolina, not too far from Charleston. 586 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 2: It's like it's like. 587 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 4: Maybe our forty five I fall from Raleigh. 588 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 5: From Raleigh, look at that probably four hours. 589 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 4: Uh five and it's like the Jackets out in the 590 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 4: Carolina this weekend. Let me see, it's very disruptive. 591 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 2: He's real sleek, very disruptive. 592 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, black and white lacksruptive like the black cars. 593 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 4: Congratulations, man, I love that. 594 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate you. 595 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 4: Being to Carolina. Let me see if I can pull up. 596 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 4: I would love to see that. 597 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 2: When it when it's well, I gotta say thank you. 598 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 5: I gotta say thank you. 599 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 2: You know. 600 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 5: I think for me, like I met Chico last year 601 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 5: or actually a couple of years ago, uh from eighty 602 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 5: five South rich And yeah. 603 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: And Dolly Bishop, the president of the Black. 604 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 5: Yeah that's dope. Yeah, so yeah, I definitely been familiar 605 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 5: with you guys, and I'm super excited to Okay Syeah 606 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 5: this weekend. 607 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: No, man, I love what you represent, like you know, 608 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: even outside of just you know, driving the cars, just 609 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: the fact that you know the way you carry yourself 610 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: in just how smart you. 611 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 5: I think I appreciate that. 612 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: You know, what does success look like for you beyond trophies. 613 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 5: I think for me, I've really learned, and this is 614 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,479 Speaker 5: something therapy has helped me with, is that to define 615 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 5: success outside of the accolades and the stats on the track. 616 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 5: So I think for me, if I can leave the 617 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 5: sport whenever I'm done driving, which is hopefully long time 618 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 5: from now, not only better than it was when I 619 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 5: got here, but to where we have a renowned presence 620 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 5: in the sport, then I can be proud of how 621 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 5: I guess that would be success for me because of course, 622 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 5: every every driver, every athlete wants to be the best 623 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 5: and be great at their profession from a stats or 624 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 5: or achievement perspective. But there's more, I guess out there 625 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 5: than just getting those results on the track. And they're 626 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 5: still important because I think a lot of times with 627 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 5: those results you can't have the other things. But I 628 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 5: would say the success for me is is deeper than 629 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 5: just getting the dubs on the track. 630 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: And the other thing I wanted to ask you, you 631 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 1: went to Winston Salem and you got a degree in 632 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: motor sports management. 633 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: I never even heard of that. 634 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 5: Which graduate twenty four. 635 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 6: Okay, that's very progressive of a school to have, Like 636 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 6: that's a fire maybe, yeah. 637 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: What does that major entail? 638 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 5: So it was it was it's sports management, but it's 639 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 5: focused directly on on racing, where uh we would have 640 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 5: like classes about facility management of running a racetrack, learn 641 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 5: how to like do like. I made my own sponsorship 642 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 5: deck recently and that was from stuff I learned at school. 643 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 5: Same with writing press releases and getting towards of race 644 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 5: shops and really just learning the business side of racing sense, 645 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 5: and that was super valuable, not really for my driving 646 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 5: side of things, but honestly for knowing everything else that 647 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 5: makes the sport go around. 648 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 3: It makes sense because it's such a big town for racing, 649 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 3: just like Hampton has a sale team where they teach 650 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 3: kids how to do the sale on the water. 651 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 6: With how now that you're alumni, like, how how helpful 652 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 6: has your HPCU community been in with you? 653 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 5: It's been so cool. I mean it's funny because every 654 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 5: time I go to whether it's Richmond or Saint Louis 655 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 5: or Atlanta, any place where we have a visibility, I 656 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 5: like to just you know, poke fun at at whoever's 657 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 5: alma maters are there. My dad he went to Clark 658 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 5: and he teaches at Howard for example, and uh one, 659 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 5: two of my best friends one went to Jackson State, 660 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 5: one went to Hampton. So I just it's great to 661 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 5: feel that love because although there's obviously everybody has their 662 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 5: their different rivalries, it's all one family at the end 663 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 5: of the day. So it's super it's super cool. And 664 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 5: anytime that I mean even going to Atlanta a couple 665 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 5: of years ago and do an event there with Clark 666 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 5: and Spelman and morehouse. I think it's it's a one 667 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 5: big family. So I love every aspect of it. 668 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 2: How do you think the world in Nascar? I only 669 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 2: got a couple of questions. 670 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: How do you think the world in NASCAR would change 671 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: if more black views gravitated towards it. 672 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 5: I think it'll just you know, get some more flavor, 673 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 5: more seasoning, and it is great. I think it will. 674 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,719 Speaker 5: It'll just be great because the the thing about racing 675 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 5: is that the equalizer is the car, and I think 676 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 5: there's not limited I mean, it's co ed, it's not 677 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 5: limited by physical stature or background. As long as you 678 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 5: can get your foot in the door and you have 679 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 5: that love for the sport, then I mean anybody can 680 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 5: be a part of it. So I think that's the 681 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 5: one beautiful thing about racing is that if you have 682 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 5: that passion for it, it's a it's a wreck, it's 683 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 5: a barrier breaker, and it's it's a unifying thing in 684 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 5: that sense. 685 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: Are you ready for all this national spotlight you about 686 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: to get. 687 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to be. 688 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: You have to be okay driving a car that says 689 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: black effect around the track at NASCAR? 690 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't wait. I can't wait, I cannot wait. 691 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 2: And I remember when Bablah Wallace there was a noose 692 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 2: in his garage. 693 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 5: Worry about stuff like that, I mean, no, I think that. 694 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 5: I mean, we'll handle whatever comes my way. I know 695 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 5: that I've got a team or a great team and 696 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 5: family around me to where in the very low chance 697 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 5: that anything crazy what happened like, I mean, I've got 698 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 5: a good circle of trust around me to where things 699 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 5: will be handled. 700 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 6: So have things improved on the inside, like since everything 701 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 6: with Bubba? 702 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 5: But I think for sure, for sure, especially like in 703 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 5: the industry, like every industry is going to have their 704 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 5: I don't know how to say it, just things that 705 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 5: could be better for sure on the inside. But I 706 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 5: think for the most part, and from what I've experienced, 707 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 5: it's been solid, so especially with UH. Really the progress 708 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 5: we've made since really Bubba made a lot of improvements 709 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 5: for us and UH statements and and I think it's 710 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 5: just going to continue to grow over over time. So 711 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 5: I'm super proud of a big road for sure, and 712 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,239 Speaker 5: paving the way for for guys like me coming up 713 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 5: or well. 714 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 3: Good luck this weekend, wetching, make sure you check it out. 715 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 3: What channels doing c W c W ort to c 716 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 3: W so definitely check it out. 717 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 5: Ro good luck, Thank you guys, appreciate you. 718 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 4: APPI for us morning. 719 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 2: If they want to follow you or anything, what they 720 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: do that? 721 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 5: Uh yeah, my website rogacruth dot com or all my 722 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 5: socials ro Roger Kruth, Underscore, I G Twitch, YouTube, the 723 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 5: whole nine. If you go on Twitch, you'll watch me 724 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 5: racing on my simulator or playing other games and stuff 725 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 5: like that. And then otherwise to know on the CW's 726 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 5: pretty much every every Saturday this year, watch him. 727 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,479 Speaker 1: Race in that Black Effect podcast network Rap Chevy Camaro 728 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: number thirty two. 729 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 2: There you go. You ain't gonna be able to miss it. 730 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 4: Nope, not at all this Saturday. At what time again? 731 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 5: I think it's five or five thirty clock, five o'clock. 732 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 4: All right, Raiser Karroof, it's the Breakfast Club. 733 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 3: Good morning, Roger Croof, It's the Breakfast clubs, Roger my bad. 734 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 5: Every day up wait click yours up the Breakfast Club. 735 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 2: You don't finish for y'all done