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Speaker 1: Who wins the October Night, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode
Speaker 1: number sixty. Welcome to another edition of The Break. We
Speaker 1: are live from the s WBC Brtgage Studios at the Star.
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of things to get into today.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the storyline set up this game
Speaker 1: for you Cowboys versus Jets. Nick's gonna tell us his
Speaker 1: storylines for both teams heading into the week, and then
Speaker 1: of course we're going to do a little bit of
Speaker 1: the Jets offense. I has a scouting report on the
Speaker 1: Jets offense, and if we have a little bit of time,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have some questions for you guys at the
Speaker 1: end of the show, just to kind of get again
Speaker 1: a big picture look at this team. How's everybody doing today? Awesome? Awesome? Great? Good.
Speaker 1: Let's jump right in uh, Nicholas start first with I
Speaker 1: always start with the injuries, as I've tried to pull
Speaker 1: it off, all right, I have to print it off,
Speaker 1: and then now I'm trying to find it. I got it.
Speaker 1: Can we start with injuries? Sure? Sure? Do you have
Speaker 1: some updates on injuries? But Dave, does I do? All right?
Speaker 1: Give us some updates? Sorry, Actually I don't have an
Speaker 1: update on an injury. I have an update on an absence.
Speaker 1: Layton Vanderesh is not at practice and everything yet, obviously,
Speaker 1: but I've heard nothing Jason Garrett like usually it's kind
Speaker 1: of like pulling teeth, like you have to specifically ask
Speaker 1: him about stuff. But typically, you know, you kind of
Speaker 1: get all of the game related injury information out of
Speaker 1: Jason by Monday evening, and so I hadn't heard anything
Speaker 1: about it. I know. You know, anybody that's watched the
Speaker 1: last two games, you've probably seen Layton hobbling around a
Speaker 1: little bit at times. So maybe it's related to that.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're trying to arrest him. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: it's kind of unusual for a starter to be hurt
Speaker 1: and you don't know about it by Wednesday afternoon. So
Speaker 1: this is the first we're hearing of it, and we
Speaker 1: only see twenty minutes of practice, So he might head
Speaker 1: out there at some point. Keep an eye on the
Speaker 1: practice report, and hopefully by three or four o'clock we'll
Speaker 1: have a better idea what that it's all about. But
Speaker 1: he's not at practice. Tyrn Smith and Lyle Collins are
Speaker 1: not practicing today. I saw Tyrn rehabbing with Britt Brown
Speaker 1: at practice, moving pretty well for a guy that sprained
Speaker 1: his ankle two weeks ago or a week and a
Speaker 1: half ago. Really everybody else Lyle's not practicing. I didn't
Speaker 1: see him rehabbing. I think that's kind of that's going
Speaker 1: to be like a weekend decision. I think, talk to
Speaker 1: me about a Tony Pollo. I don't think we talked
Speaker 1: about him yesterday. He was mentioned by Jason as a
Speaker 1: guy that came out of the game with a couple
Speaker 1: couple of things. He's dinged up, like barsitis in his knee.
Speaker 1: I think like kind of looks worse than maybe it
Speaker 1: actually is. He's out there today. I'm sure he'll you know,
Speaker 1: he'll be limited in some form or fashion, but he's
Speaker 1: out there. Amari Cooper hurt his quad, he's out there,
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb is out there. Like I think Layton, Leyton
Speaker 1: Lyle and Tyron are the only like starter starters who
Speaker 1: aren't out there. Antoine Woods back, Antoine Woods is out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty much those three that are the big ones. Okay, Good,
Speaker 1: that gives you a good understanding kind of where the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are entering the week with regards to injuries. Nicholas
Speaker 1: jumped down into the storylines to walk me through some
Speaker 1: of these storylines. You wrote an article in Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: dot Com, as you do every week, walking through the
Speaker 1: five storylines at each for each team heading into the
Speaker 1: upcoming game. I'll go with the Jazz, I mean some
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys stuff we just sort of mentioned. I
Speaker 1: mean it was we'll start with the Jets first, but
Speaker 1: basically for them, the biggest one and one of the
Speaker 1: biggest ones in I guess in the league, is Sam
Speaker 1: Darnold being cleared to play. He's been out with mono
Speaker 1: nucleosis for three games. He comes back with third overall
Speaker 1: pick two years ago, and so that I'm Dave, I
Speaker 1: guess we'll speak to that. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: got a chance to watch the Bills to watch that
Speaker 1: all over it because they're a different team obviously than
Speaker 1: with him. Yeah. Um, so that they've been outscored eighty
Speaker 1: four to twenty eight in those in these three games.
Speaker 1: Second one would just be Levan Bell obviously being happy
Speaker 1: with with Darnold's return. He's everything for them, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure Dave will talk more about that. He the only
Speaker 1: touchdown he has as a receiving touchdown from Darnold in
Speaker 1: week one, So um, that should be able to help
Speaker 1: their passing game and help him. Another thing for them,
Speaker 1: they're they're tied end. Chris Herndon's coming off of a suspension.
Speaker 1: He's he's a guy caught thirty nine passes last year,
Speaker 1: so that's another weapon that they're having. However, did this
Speaker 1: morning the news just broke new news on him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: new news on him, and he has an injury. Um,
Speaker 1: just sustained an injury working out by himself last week
Speaker 1: or earlier this week, and it looks like he's not
Speaker 1: going to be able to play. I missed that, huge,
Speaker 1: huge thing for them. I would have did say. Adam
Speaker 1: Gay said this morning that C. J. Mosley is doubtful
Speaker 1: at best. Yep, but Herndon now is in coming back
Speaker 1: is now on the injury report right, and then and
Speaker 1: then their defensive injuries, where the next thing I was
Speaker 1: going with, Henry Anderson has been banged up and he
Speaker 1: might not play. He's got a shoulder injury. Quinnin Williams
Speaker 1: has been banged up. CJ. Mosley as well, and then
Speaker 1: the last one. It's just just the play of Jamal
Speaker 1: Adams is their best player. And he even though he
Speaker 1: has been a guy that maybe disgruntled, even though he
Speaker 1: didn't ask for a trade, whatever it was, he's still
Speaker 1: playing balling out. We'll talk about him more tomorrow or
Speaker 1: maybe today, since he's an LSU guy, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: Dave talked about him all week, talking about every day.
Speaker 1: He's a press whenever you want. He's a great, great player.
Speaker 1: So that that's really kind of what they have. And
Speaker 1: they're more than anything. I mean, they're owing four. They
Speaker 1: had they did the old players meeting, you know, players
Speaker 1: one meeting. Yeah, when that happens, um, So you know
Speaker 1: it's a should be a hungry team. I don't know
Speaker 1: if they're a good team, but they don't seem to be.
Speaker 1: But they could be hungry. But who knows that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are good? Which are those storylines outside of well,
Speaker 1: I mean we don't we don't know it. He's got
Speaker 1: such a way with work. We know that they're good
Speaker 1: against winless teams. We know that good. We know that
Speaker 1: they can beat a winless team by three scores because
Speaker 1: they've done it three times, a good point. Outside of
Speaker 1: their quarterback coming back, Which of those storylines is should
Speaker 1: be most concerning for the Cowboys Outside of that one?
Speaker 1: I would say the defensive injuries, just because they have
Speaker 1: some guys over there that they've drafted that they expect
Speaker 1: to do, you know, to help them, and they're they're
Speaker 1: banged up. So if you're banged up on and you
Speaker 1: have the you know, test the depth of an O
Speaker 1: and four team, that's probably not not so great. So
Speaker 1: that that's what I would think is, is, you know,
Speaker 1: can they stop the run? Because you know the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are going to be trying to do that and get
Speaker 1: back on track there all right, Um, you know something,
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick early break here because I
Speaker 1: want to give Dave a full segment or at least
Speaker 1: part of that segment to be able to give us
Speaker 1: okay breakdown. I don't want to break up your breakdown.
Speaker 1: I guess so we'll take a break. When we come back,
Speaker 1: we'll get into the Jets offense. Day will give us
Speaker 1: a scattering report. We'll do that when we come back.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. It is the second segment of The Break
Speaker 1: Life in the SUBC Mortgage studios at the Star, Nick,
Speaker 1: why are you looking like that? Like what I do
Speaker 1: you let you smell something? I'm not sniffing myself too much?
Speaker 1: Cowboys apparently were all right, Uh, Dave, Yeah, I need
Speaker 1: a scouting report on these Jets. Tell me something about
Speaker 1: these this this Jets offense. Um, yeah, it's it's great
Speaker 1: for them that sam Donold's back, but uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Tony Romo could probably tell you how much fun it
Speaker 1: is trying to be good at quarterback when nobody in
Speaker 1: front of you can block work worth a lick. And
Speaker 1: that's really my only impression from watching two games I watched.
Speaker 1: I watched him play, I watched a half versus the Eagles,
Speaker 1: I watched the whole game against the team before that,
Speaker 1: who they I already fought New England best defense in
Speaker 1: the league. And then I watched a little bit of
Speaker 1: Darnold's game against the Bills just to kind of get
Speaker 1: an idea of what he's all about. But I actually
Speaker 1: I just looked this up during the break. They've got
Speaker 1: at their left tackle is veteran journeyman seventh round draft
Speaker 1: pick Calvin Beecham collecchi Assamelee, who you're probably familiar with,
Speaker 1: has been a good guard in this league for a
Speaker 1: number of years, but is playing on a bad line.
Speaker 1: Ryan Khalil, again has had success in this league. He
Speaker 1: was drafted an OH seven. They literally signed him at
Speaker 1: the tail end of training camp because there was like
Speaker 1: nobody else, kind of like a Brian Waters situation if
Speaker 1: you remember when he came back, which speaking of which,
Speaker 1: this really threw me for loop Brian Winters, that's their
Speaker 1: right guard. I thought it was Brian Waters, and I
Speaker 1: was like, there's no way somebody's still saying that guy
Speaker 1: Brandon Shell, fifth round pick in twenty sixteen. Like this
Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to say is this is a
Speaker 1: pretty talent poor offensive line of higher draft picks that
Speaker 1: are on the downside of their career or Day three
Speaker 1: guys that it just doesn't look like it's getting the
Speaker 1: job done. The proof is in the pudding. They've allowed
Speaker 1: twenty three sacks and this is a team that has
Speaker 1: had a bye week, by the way, so twenty three
Speaker 1: sacks in four games, fifteen in the last two. Philly
Speaker 1: got Luke Falk ten times last week, Yeah, ten sacks
Speaker 1: last week? Oh okay, New England got him five times.
Speaker 1: So I mean, even if you're I mean, yeah, forty hits,
Speaker 1: They've let their quarterback be hit forty times in four games.
Speaker 1: Welcome back Sam Donald. You know, seriously, I mean checking
Speaker 1: out the spleen and then and you know, I am
Speaker 1: positive or fine going out. I'm positive they wouldn't put
Speaker 1: him out there if he wasn't ready. And it's obviously difficult.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's different from you know, an NFL professional
Speaker 1: training staff. But like, what I know about mono is
Speaker 1: that it makes you lose a lot of weight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm like, you probably weigh fifteen pounds less than
Speaker 1: you did at the end of training camp, and they're
Speaker 1: going to send you out there to get annihilated. Probably,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it sounds dicey. We just Chris Herndon
Speaker 1: could have been a big boost for them. So a
Speaker 1: guy that had four hundred yards and four touchdowns, athletic
Speaker 1: guy out of Miami, He's not gonna play. Actually, Adam
Speaker 1: Gas ruled him out of this game. So that's cool.
Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder signed there in the offseason. You remember him
Speaker 1: from his time in Washington, really speedy, really dangerous crossing routes.
Speaker 1: He used to run deep crossers against this defense all
Speaker 1: the time, and it felt like he was always open.
Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson and Josh Bellamy just I don't know, they
Speaker 1: just seem like guys to me. Damarius Thomas is actually
Speaker 1: on this team. I forgot the Patriots traded him. Hasn't
Speaker 1: had a chance to make a huge impact, but then again,
Speaker 1: nobody really has. And then obviously you've got Levon Bell
Speaker 1: and Tie Montgomery as your primary running backs with Bilal
Speaker 1: Powell still kind of kicking around, and it's just hard
Speaker 1: to evaluate him because, like they just there's not a
Speaker 1: whole lot of room for them to do anything. I'm
Speaker 1: Levon Bell, I mean, he's the engine of their offense.
Speaker 1: They try to run everything through him, but it just
Speaker 1: sort of feels like tackle the man with the football,
Speaker 1: Like he gets the ball and there's eight guys swarming
Speaker 1: him because his line camp block. You see a lot
Speaker 1: of quick passes to him, swing passes, screen passes, out routes,
Speaker 1: stuff like that. They do a fun thing where they
Speaker 1: put Bell and Tie Montgomery in the backfield together readoption
Speaker 1: wildcat type of stuff. Again, I mean, you know, if
Speaker 1: you can't block, you might as well just give the
Speaker 1: running back as much of a running start as possible.
Speaker 1: But not very good now that it's it's I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're very good. I think the world
Speaker 1: of Levy on Bell, but I don't know how much
Speaker 1: he can do on his own. I think having Darnold
Speaker 1: darre will probably help. He can probably process a little
Speaker 1: bit faster. He's more talented than Luke Falk. But again,
Speaker 1: I mean this is a second year guy, you know,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not ready to say Sam Darnold is a
Speaker 1: difference maker on the level of like an Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: where he can just immediately elevate this offense, especially having
Speaker 1: missed a month of the season. So I think it's
Speaker 1: going to be a lot of quick throws. I think, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, if I were the Jets, I would try
Speaker 1: to screen the Cowboys to death because they've already shown
Speaker 1: that they don't handle that very well. They're tackling and
Speaker 1: you got an offensive line they can't seem to hold up. Right,
Speaker 1: What you're saying screens and getting the ball to Levon
Speaker 1: Bell as quickly as possible seemed like a great bet um.
Speaker 1: I like the Cowboys odds of being able to cover
Speaker 1: these receivers. They haven't really gotten killed by a receiver
Speaker 1: yet this year, like a wide receiver. I know, you know,
Speaker 1: they gave up yards to Ingram And Michael Thomas was
Speaker 1: kind of good, but not on his own level of five.
Speaker 1: I mean, he had a good day, but again, like
Speaker 1: I said it, then you know, if that's his stat line,
Speaker 1: I think you you did okay with no touchdownes and
Speaker 1: they don't, and then Michael Thomas is so much better
Speaker 1: than it was crowded? Was it the game? Did he
Speaker 1: have like fourteen catches? Ye? Actually, I was going to
Speaker 1: mention it. He's he had fourteen catches in the first
Speaker 1: game with Darnel against the Buffalo Bills for ninety nine yards,
Speaker 1: but he only caught eight. He's only caught eight passes
Speaker 1: in the other four games, or I guess it would
Speaker 1: be three games this season. So I wonder, and I
Speaker 1: caution a little bit how effective he'll be or that
Speaker 1: he will be more I'll make the argument he may
Speaker 1: be way more active and will probably have a much
Speaker 1: better day against the Cowboys with Donald back right, fourteen
Speaker 1: catches for ninety nine yards is seven yards per catch,
Speaker 1: by the way. I mean, that's just got it. But
Speaker 1: he's a guy that's very involved in their offense. Was
Speaker 1: Donald's there, right, that's going and watching the Jets Bills game,
Speaker 1: it felt very similar in the sense that I didn't
Speaker 1: feel like he had a long time to throw. I
Speaker 1: didn't feel like his receivers had time to get very
Speaker 1: far down field. So again, like you wind up danking
Speaker 1: and dunking. He threw the ball forty one times for
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five yards. That's less than five
Speaker 1: yards per tempt ye. Let me ask you this though,
Speaker 1: and follow me on. He got sacked four times in
Speaker 1: that game. Okay, follow me on this though. You look
Speaker 1: at that game, they scored the most that's the most
Speaker 1: points that they scored all season. Obviously Donald was in there. Now. Also,
Speaker 1: it's the second most points that the Buffalo build defense
Speaker 1: is allowed this year. By the way, they're playing phenomenal football.
Speaker 1: Their defense very good, playing really well. They allowed the
Speaker 1: Buffalo I mean they allowed the Jet sixteen points. There's
Speaker 1: only one team that scored more seventeen points. New England
Speaker 1: was only allowed sixteen points. That being said, do you
Speaker 1: think that New England they're playing against Newengal only scored
Speaker 1: sixteen points against Buffalo offensive against bugs. I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: making it, and that's why I say it followed me
Speaker 1: because I know this is a little convoluted. I'm making
Speaker 1: the argument that Buffalo's defense is really good and they
Speaker 1: put up sixteen points, which is close to the most
Speaker 1: they've given up all seasons. I want to say Buffalo
Speaker 1: or New England got a block punt in that game.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it was I'm not sure. They did get
Speaker 1: a block punt in some game and scored I think
Speaker 1: it was Buffalo, okay, but so they didn't really score
Speaker 1: much at all. The whole point I'm making is they
Speaker 1: were as good against Buffalo as anybody that's played Buffalo
Speaker 1: this season. Against that good defense, the question becomes is
Speaker 1: that does that translate against a defense that you some
Speaker 1: people may argues lesser than than than the Cowboys. If
Speaker 1: you believe that, does that translate now into the Cowboys
Speaker 1: having a team that that it may actually be able
Speaker 1: to do a little bit more offensively now that they've
Speaker 1: got Donald back. That does a long question, but it is,
Speaker 1: and I mean, I get the essence of what you're saying.
Speaker 1: And the Bills are a better defense than the Cowboys
Speaker 1: right now, and that's fair. I'm just looking at it.
Speaker 1: One that I mean, sixteen points puts you in the
Speaker 1: bottom like six in terms of offensive output. Like it's
Speaker 1: that's bad, but that's that's better than the average of
Speaker 1: what Buffalo is giving up all season. It is. I
Speaker 1: still I don't, I don't. I don't know that I
Speaker 1: can follow you there, like I mean, because because the
Speaker 1: signs of them struggling are still there. I mean four
Speaker 1: point three yards per instantly, yeah, three point two yards
Speaker 1: per carry um. Sometimes you can throw are out that
Speaker 1: week one stuff just because you know, they Bills maybe
Speaker 1: didn't get a good read on what they're gonna do
Speaker 1: with Levon Bell and and how the you know crowd
Speaker 1: is gonna work and all that, which is kind of
Speaker 1: still the same thing for the Cowboys a bit, because
Speaker 1: they've only seen they all have one game of tape
Speaker 1: to see how they're going to use him when they
Speaker 1: have both those guys there. One thing that's I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Nick, I knew like there was something in
Speaker 1: my head that I was forgetting, and that's that the
Speaker 1: Jets scored a touchdown on a Cole Beasley pick six.
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley dropped the ball and C. J. Mosley returned
Speaker 1: it sixteen yards for a touchdown in that game. So
Speaker 1: the Jets offense scored eight points. Bell Bell had a touchdown. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so oh oh oh wow. They also got a safety
Speaker 1: in that game. So they scored eight points. Yeah, the offense.
Speaker 1: So so the issue still is the offense is not
Speaker 1: their offensive no matter what, and then you can't turn
Speaker 1: the ball over to him. Is that the Bills have
Speaker 1: not The Bills have played better defense than the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: That's fair. Like, I don't know if the Jets are
Speaker 1: going to struggle as mightily. I kind of think they will,
Speaker 1: Like I don't, I just I think this is still
Speaker 1: a talented defense. I look across the board, like, you know,
Speaker 1: we can quibble all we want to about whether DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence is getting enough sacks, but like the Cowboys should
Speaker 1: win those matchups. This is the bad offensive line. The
Speaker 1: one I mean, the one thing that should give you
Speaker 1: pause is like, can they tackle Levy on Bell? Because
Speaker 1: they didn't tackle. Well last week, they've shown they're not
Speaker 1: all the way up to snuff there. Layton vander Esch's
Speaker 1: in at practice. Like I can see a world where
Speaker 1: Levon Bell has a disconcertingly good day, where you're like,
Speaker 1: the Jets are these guys are terrible, and Levon Bell's
Speaker 1: carried the ball twenty times for one hundred and something yards,
Speaker 1: kind of like what happened against the Giants. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, absolutely, I mean like, okay, these guys
Speaker 1: are trash and then on like the third play of
Speaker 1: the game, Bell, you know, yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 1: I just don't think it's enough to overcome the talent
Speaker 1: deficit over the course of sixty minutes. And I'm not
Speaker 1: you know, this game might be frustrating for a while.
Speaker 1: The Doll game was um, but I just I can't
Speaker 1: imagine the Jets scoring more than there's some twenty points
Speaker 1: more going forum for Leveon Bell when he was with Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: I mean, he had he had a veteran quarterback who
Speaker 1: likes to throw it deep, and he's smart with the
Speaker 1: ball for the most part, tough, he's got he had
Speaker 1: the best receiver in football maybe at the time. On
Speaker 1: the outside with some other weapons as well, and an
Speaker 1: offensive line that's got to be better than this. And
Speaker 1: so he was just a I wouldn't say just a
Speaker 1: piece in the in the thing, because I mean he
Speaker 1: was so great, but he you know, he had other
Speaker 1: guys you had the key on when when you're the
Speaker 1: only guy. It's funny. Because Levion Bell is one of
Speaker 1: the three best running backs in football. I love Jamison
Speaker 1: Crowder as a complimentary piece, like I mean, if he's
Speaker 1: like your slot receiver or your third receiver, like I
Speaker 1: think that's pretty good. I loved what he did in Washington.
Speaker 1: He I don't know if he should be your best receiver.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a good idea. And definitely none
Speaker 1: of this is going to work if your offensive line
Speaker 1: can't give your quarterback anytime, like I mean, and I
Speaker 1: like Sam Darnold too, like I have no reason to
Speaker 1: believe that he won't eventually be a good quarterback. But
Speaker 1: the offensive line isn't doing anybody in any favors. And
Speaker 1: I don't think there are enough good options around him
Speaker 1: to fix that. And that's looking at this box score
Speaker 1: from Rink one. That's another thing is um Quincy and Numa,
Speaker 1: who pretty good receiver that gets forgotten about because he's
Speaker 1: stuck on the Jets. He's out, he's not playing like
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he's on IR So it's another guy
Speaker 1: they don't have. There's just not a ton of jaw
Speaker 1: dropping talent. There is this a week when you think
Speaker 1: this defensive line Cowboys defensive line kind of gets going
Speaker 1: because I don't think I think from so far this year,
Speaker 1: they haven't had that dominating performance where they really just veiled.
Speaker 1: I mean, you could say the same that they really dominate,
Speaker 1: dominate the quest I mean, and I mean from the
Speaker 1: standpoint of the pass rush, from the standpoint of stopping run.
Speaker 1: Like they were just dominant. The front four was dominant
Speaker 1: in how they played. And I don't know if I've
Speaker 1: seen that this year. I mean, yeah, they played really
Speaker 1: well against the Saints. Don't get me as a lot
Speaker 1: of pressures. I mean, yeah, I think, but it was
Speaker 1: against a backup quarterback. Even though he's you know, he's
Speaker 1: playing well. Yeah, he's playing well. He's probably not the
Speaker 1: thirty second best quarterback in the league. He's probably better
Speaker 1: than that. He's probably better than Sam Darnold right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: especially you know since he hasn't played since September eighth.
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought that they played very well in
Speaker 1: that game on defense, and they had to. It wasn't
Speaker 1: good enough, but they did play well in that game.
Speaker 1: But but as far as just dominating, I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is that type of team. I don't know
Speaker 1: if they're that they're gonna be that good because to dominate,
Speaker 1: you gotta get turnovers, and they really don't do that
Speaker 1: to that point. I mean, the Jets will probably, you know,
Speaker 1: very similarly try to scheme this to keep that from happening,
Speaker 1: whether that's again screens, short passes, running the ball, even
Speaker 1: when it's not a great idea, maybe they can mitigate
Speaker 1: that some way. But yeah, I mean, the defensive line
Speaker 1: should play really well in this game, and I hear
Speaker 1: what Nick saying. I think I think they'll be fine.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if they
Speaker 1: don't dominate the way you would expect them to, because
Speaker 1: they haven't really done that in any game this season.
Speaker 1: I mean the Saints game, I don't know if you
Speaker 1: can say dominate. They lost, and maybe they played well,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it wasn't enough. Yeah, all right, we're gonna
Speaker 1: take our final break. When we come back, we'll get
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Speaker 1: tell you what. Let's get back into some questions. We've
Speaker 1: got some questions from yesterday that some fans sent us
Speaker 1: on Twitter yesterday it was rough Man. You really put
Speaker 1: us on the spot. Well, some of these questions are
Speaker 1: actually some interesting questions. They are a lot when I
Speaker 1: talk about big pictures, it's a really big picture, and
Speaker 1: a lot of them just require a little bit of thought.
Speaker 1: This one included. We got this from from Edo Merrick.
Speaker 1: I think is the pronunciation. Sorry if I butchered that,
Speaker 1: but he says, last year, the Cowboys made a huge
Speaker 1: trade that turned around the outlook of this team. If
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were to make a trade this year, what
Speaker 1: position would you focus on? You know what I thought
Speaker 1: about the other day, um was and I don't even
Speaker 1: know what he's doing, so I can't say, like, oh,
Speaker 1: they should have done this. But the Packers cut Mike
Speaker 1: Daniels back during training camp and the Lions scooped him
Speaker 1: up immediately, I would do. I mean, that sounds nice
Speaker 1: to have like a really experienced, good defensive tackle in
Speaker 1: the middle of this line, or Gerald McCoy. Going back
Speaker 1: to the offseason. Offseason, I think most people agreed that
Speaker 1: for the right price, that would have been fun. No,
Speaker 1: I think that when you're talking about a trade, what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys did last year was figured out what their
Speaker 1: needs are probably going to be next year, and looking
Speaker 1: at the draft and going not a lot of great
Speaker 1: receivers that might be coming out. We have a chance
Speaker 1: that we'll probably have to go first round. Let's do it.
Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, if they're going to
Speaker 1: forecast that way, there's twenty seven people in the scouting
Speaker 1: department here, they're probably doing that, going all right, this
Speaker 1: is what's going to kind of project next year. And
Speaker 1: you know, so if a safety comes available and they think, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, we're not probably not going to resign heath
Speaker 1: or or maybe try to upgrade there finally, you know.
Speaker 1: And I say that finally because they've been trying for
Speaker 1: a while, they just haven't. So maybe, you know, if
Speaker 1: it's safety popped up, I could see that happening. I
Speaker 1: mean somebody that you might have to draft next year.
Speaker 1: Maybe tight end, Yeah, tight End could be one, right,
Speaker 1: even in light of all like that would be tricky
Speaker 1: kind of you know, doing it now, they would do
Speaker 1: the Cooper trade over again one hundred times out of
Speaker 1: one hundred and and good for them they should. But
Speaker 1: they still hated not having that pick though, So a
Speaker 1: trade of that magnitude two years in a row would
Speaker 1: really really surprise me, especially because even with their struggles,
Speaker 1: I don't see a position that is so glaringly obviously
Speaker 1: in need of being addressed, you know, like we can't
Speaker 1: win games because we don't have this. Like, am I
Speaker 1: missing something? No, I mean so so, And I mean
Speaker 1: it would be nice to have another defensive tackle, a
Speaker 1: good one. I looked it up. Mike Daniels has played
Speaker 1: in three games for Detroit and has two tackles. So
Speaker 1: I mean it's not you know, stats get hidden when
Speaker 1: you play that position, for sure, but not like he's
Speaker 1: lighting the league on fire. I think safety could come
Speaker 1: in and make him better. I think so too, if
Speaker 1: you got the right one. I mean, that's why we
Speaker 1: threw out the name of your guy a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 1: That's a one, And I said it then, and I'll
Speaker 1: say I would do that. I would have done the
Speaker 1: deal for Menca Fitzpatrick. Yeah. That, and but that's that
Speaker 1: one's over with again for the fifth time. Like there's
Speaker 1: no actual evidence that suggests Jamal Adams. Let's be clear.
Speaker 1: Let's be clear, though, I think the point of this
Speaker 1: question was just really really big picture from the standpoint
Speaker 1: of if you wanted to go out and be aggressive
Speaker 1: about getting a trade for whomever. Doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: a particular player. What position would be that target position
Speaker 1: that you say, let me go find one of the
Speaker 1: betters as a kicker, ever been traded? That's because I
Speaker 1: don't even know. I mean, if you've got a good one,
Speaker 1: are you getting rid of him? Like a kick starting kicker? No,
Speaker 1: yes you have, because the Ravens did it during camp.
Speaker 1: If there's their backup kick, well yeah, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: the starting kicker in season, it's immediately got. If you're
Speaker 1: ready to get rid of him, that means he's probably
Speaker 1: not doing very well. I can't if you're not. If
Speaker 1: he's doing well, you're not getting rid of him. But
Speaker 1: the Ravens trade justin Tucker, they for a two. What
Speaker 1: would you have to give up to make the Ravens
Speaker 1: want to consider it? You know, like, well, having this
Speaker 1: guy is really nice, but you're offering us something probably
Speaker 1: for a team like that that, as the season goes on,
Speaker 1: may not be able to score a ton. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: i'm them, you would have to give me a one
Speaker 1: for me to get rid of mine. I mean, three
Speaker 1: years ago, if someone said you're gonna trade. Dan Bailey
Speaker 1: been like no, and like, what about for a high
Speaker 1: second round pick? You'd be like, think about it, maybe,
Speaker 1: but you know you're you're shooting yourself in the foot.
Speaker 1: I would need the one because you know, when it's
Speaker 1: tied up in New York later this year and you
Speaker 1: miss the kick, you better. I mean they're helping you now,
Speaker 1: it's helping you in the future. And if you're a
Speaker 1: team that you think you have a shot this year,
Speaker 1: that's not the movie you want to I would I mean,
Speaker 1: if Baltimore wanted to send me Justin Tucker for like
Speaker 1: a three, you could talk me into that, but I
Speaker 1: don't think that's realistic. He wouldn't do that if I'm both.
Speaker 1: If I'm Baltimore, I wouldn't do him unless it was
Speaker 1: a one stop being. If you've heard this before, but
Speaker 1: d tackle and safety or the two positions we think
Speaker 1: they need to upgrade. Yeah, this was last year around
Speaker 1: this time every year ago Rod Marinelli got here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is what it is, um, but I don't think
Speaker 1: it's as dire as the receiver situation was last year.
Speaker 1: I agree. Are they gonna resign? Byron Jones? See the
Speaker 1: interesting part about Minca Fitzpatrick was. He also wanted to
Speaker 1: play corner and not so much safety. He wanted to
Speaker 1: play slot corner, which you know you have to play
Speaker 1: more than that when you're like, what tenth pick in
Speaker 1: the draft, eleventh pick? But you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: the whole situation. I just know that when you make
Speaker 1: a move like that, you can you have to kind
Speaker 1: of think ahead and go, well, what are we gonna
Speaker 1: do with Byron Jones? What are we gonna do in
Speaker 1: the off season on somebo these guys? Would you be
Speaker 1: willing to make Byron Jones a top five page cornerback
Speaker 1: in the league? Not really? What's the like, what's the
Speaker 1: salary parameter on that? And I don't know the numbers? Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Top ten? Yeah, okay, you give him top ten if
Speaker 1: he's you know, if he's signing right now before Jalen
Speaker 1: Ramsey and he doesn't crack the top five, which means
Speaker 1: he'll just continue to be a bargain. Yeah, i'd probably
Speaker 1: his agent is gonna have to be very you know,
Speaker 1: like up on all of those websites that I don't
Speaker 1: I don't even know them all over the cap or
Speaker 1: all that. Not so much and the ones that I'll
Speaker 1: tell you that Byron doesn't allow more than like a
Speaker 1: half yard of separation. Yeah, because he can't just go
Speaker 1: with with interceptions and pass breakups and you can't just
Speaker 1: go to NFL dot com and get the interception total.
Speaker 1: Which is fine because I mean, you know, it's a
Speaker 1: good thing. Is his last year, the other teams saw that,
Speaker 1: and they're seeing it this year. He's he covers. He no,
Speaker 1: he is a good corner and there's something to be
Speaker 1: said for that, and he is deserving of a contract.
Speaker 1: But you know, we talk about it in terms of
Speaker 1: like they don't get takeaways, but like, have the Cowboys
Speaker 1: been on a short field on offense yet this season,
Speaker 1: Like where for whatever reason they like flip the field
Speaker 1: unexpectedly and they're just like, oh, we're on the we're
Speaker 1: on their thirty three. Didn't happened once like an interception
Speaker 1: that would seem like there was one one drive that
Speaker 1: Cheeto pick. They happened the ball around there around their
Speaker 1: opponent's thirty or so. I want to say, my memory
Speaker 1: might suck, but I'll have to go back and look,
Speaker 1: they dropped two picks against Washington. Demarcus's Demarcus's uh turnover
Speaker 1: on downs fumble recovery against the Giants happened down near
Speaker 1: their red zone. The Dolphins fumble recovery happened down near
Speaker 1: there in zone. Cheeto's pick I believe happened like just
Speaker 1: on the other side of midfield. So the Cowboys were
Speaker 1: in their territory, like Neil Jones fumbled on you know,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys territory was That might have been the one.
Speaker 1: I just kind of drive they were driving a little.
Speaker 1: They haven't had that point, like geta takeaway. I know
Speaker 1: there's more two playing cornerback than that, but like get
Speaker 1: the ball, let the ball from the ball and down
Speaker 1: by the what twenty yard line? Last week? Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: cock would have been huge. Yeah, all right, let's take
Speaker 1: a phone call from Drew. Drew. What you got Hi,
Speaker 1: guys for a long time listener, Thanks for having me
Speaker 1: on the show. Thank you, thank you. Yeah, we all
Speaker 1: know the Cowboys run defense has been not as good
Speaker 1: as it was last year, and in my opinion, a
Speaker 1: big part of that has to do with the Marcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence not playing like himself. So and your guys opinion,
Speaker 1: what do you guys think the Marcus has to do do
Speaker 1: to get back to the form he was playing at
Speaker 1: last year. Okay, I don't agree with the premise. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's playing worse than he was playing last year.
Speaker 1: I think he's getting more attention. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I necessarily think he's playing worse. What do you guys
Speaker 1: agree think. I think, you know the run defense part.
Speaker 1: I think we are underestimating the value of Antoine Woods,
Speaker 1: I really do. I think he's a fun, jolly guy whatever.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know he came from the Titans, and you know,
Speaker 1: I think he's a good player, and I think they're
Speaker 1: missing him big time in the middle because he is
Speaker 1: hard to move and I think that that's a big
Speaker 1: part of the run defense. As for DeMarcus, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean he does get a little bit more attention, and
Speaker 1: he's banged up a little bit too. Have you seen
Speaker 1: his problems in the run game, because I heard this
Speaker 1: call said that's not been what I heard. Most people
Speaker 1: have a problem with most people quibbling about the fact
Speaker 1: that he's not getting more sacks. I don't necessarily, I've
Speaker 1: never I haven't necessarily seen him be a part of
Speaker 1: the problem. The breakdowns on the in the run game
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Well, their problem last year was what they
Speaker 1: just got killed up the middle by teams that wants
Speaker 1: to do that to them. And that was when DeMarcus,
Speaker 1: I assume, according on I mean in the Collars opinion,
Speaker 1: DeMarcus was playing like himself then And actually, I mean
Speaker 1: he had the labor and then, so maybe he wasn't,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't. It wasn't that that was killing them then.
Speaker 1: It was right up the middle. And I think it's
Speaker 1: exactly the same. I think they're defensive tackles. They're shorthanded.
Speaker 1: For one, they're not as talented at that spot as
Speaker 1: they are at others. And then their linebackers haven't been
Speaker 1: playing up to the level. Those guys that are playing
Speaker 1: like they played last year, the four spots in the
Speaker 1: middle of the field, the two linebackers and the two
Speaker 1: defensive tackles, Yeah, I don't think are playing up to
Speaker 1: the same snuff that they were last year. I don't
Speaker 1: think it has that much to do with DeMarcus. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a call from junior in Illinois. Junior, what up?
Speaker 1: How are you guys doing good? I'm from Utah, by
Speaker 1: the way, Sorry you're okay? Um? I just have a
Speaker 1: couple things to add to the defense them. I know
Speaker 1: that we talk about having the standard, and I just
Speaker 1: I don't I see that with the way we played
Speaker 1: against the Saints. Why is it that we can't consistently
Speaker 1: play that way of football and our offense play consistently.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't understand. We have a good team.
Speaker 1: I just want you guys opinion of why can't we
Speaker 1: play what is the problem of why can't we play
Speaker 1: so consistently? And all? Thank you? All right, thanks kay.
Speaker 1: I think the biggest difference is that, um, the players
Speaker 1: that you're playing against are not consistent at all. I mean,
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater was not a starting quarterback really in the league,
Speaker 1: and he was a backup, and then you know he's
Speaker 1: not going to just make these magical plays and and
Speaker 1: get the ball out like Aaron Rodgers, who in many
Speaker 1: people believe is one of the top three or four
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to ever play. I mean, I just don't think
Speaker 1: you can compare the same the same way that they're
Speaker 1: not playing the same teams, and they had a much
Speaker 1: better game plan for the Packers had a much better
Speaker 1: game plan than the Saints. And I keep saying that
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to reconcile. I know how much
Speaker 1: better Aaron Rodgers is than everybody. I know that makes
Speaker 1: it a pain to game plan for. But like that's
Speaker 1: you know, I don't expect you to stop the funky
Speaker 1: shovel pass or the thing where you break out of
Speaker 1: the pocket and find the backup tight end just on
Speaker 1: a rope. Like Aaron Rodgers is going to do that
Speaker 1: four or five times a game and you just have
Speaker 1: to accept it. That doesn't bother me. But Aaron Jones
Speaker 1: was just killing them on pretty routine stuff over and
Speaker 1: over again. I think I read they were credited with
Speaker 1: as many as twelve tackles depending on twelve miss tackles
Speaker 1: depending on who you want to believe. And I know
Speaker 1: the respect that you pay to the quarterback has a
Speaker 1: role to play in that. Still don't think it's good enough,
Speaker 1: And I don't have a great answer. Wasn't good enough?
Speaker 1: I mean they're not that great. I mean, this isn't
Speaker 1: a great defense. They're not They're not playing that way.
Speaker 1: They worse than they were last year, I think, so
Speaker 1: right now, yeah, they are. They're not getting enough sacks
Speaker 1: and the linebackers are not flying around making all these plays.
Speaker 1: They're just not I think maybe people are figuring out
Speaker 1: we got to get the guards on them. That's why
Speaker 1: I think Antoine Woods is so important. When you look
Speaker 1: at the great deep linebackers in the history of football,
Speaker 1: most of them had at least a Pro Bowl. It's
Speaker 1: not Hall of Fame tackle in there. I mean those
Speaker 1: Ravens guys that they were tough in there with Adams
Speaker 1: and Sara Busa. I'm not saying ray Lewis wasn't great
Speaker 1: on his own or Mike Singletary great on his own,
Speaker 1: but those guys have You have to have some guys
Speaker 1: up front to allow you to go make plays. If
Speaker 1: the guard gets to you, you're still gonna get smashed.
Speaker 1: That's why Jalen and Layton are getting knocked off the ball,
Speaker 1: because those guards are taking it to the second level. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they just I think that's part of it. I think
Speaker 1: their instincts don't look as good to me this. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know what Week five last year was when they
Speaker 1: lost to Houston and they lost that game, but kind
Speaker 1: of like the Saints, they you know, they killed him
Speaker 1: in the red zone. Jalen was flying around, you know,
Speaker 1: he made that crazy play on John Watson. We've seen
Speaker 1: that a couple of times, but a couple of times
Speaker 1: in five games from guys that you're expecting to be
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl caliber. That's not what you signed up for
Speaker 1: when the season started. And I mean it's early teams
Speaker 1: and units grow and blossom. Like the Cowboy. They were
Speaker 1: good for basically all of last year, but they kicked
Speaker 1: it into another gear as the season went along. So
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to say they can't get there, but
Speaker 1: they're not there right now. Yeah. The part that's kind
Speaker 1: of baffling for me is that there were so many
Speaker 1: guys on the defense during training camp that we were
Speaker 1: looking at me only, man, this guy's playing really, really well,
Speaker 1: and so much of that has not necessarily trans you
Speaker 1: know though, and to the season. You know, people kind
Speaker 1: you know when you say stuff like that, people come
Speaker 1: at you when it proves to be wrong. Again, you
Speaker 1: can only evaluate as well as you can evaluate. But
Speaker 1: what are you really seeing in training camp? Like Malie Collins,
Speaker 1: you see him rushed the passer. You're not seeing real
Speaker 1: runde defense because you can't tackle the running back. You're
Speaker 1: thudding people up, And so I don't have as good
Speaker 1: of an idea of how he's going to play in
Speaker 1: run defense as he does against the past. I think
Speaker 1: through five weeks he has looked about as good as
Speaker 1: I expected. As a pass rusher. I think he's been
Speaker 1: good in that regard. Hasn't been great against the run.
Speaker 1: None of them really have. And but I'm even talking
Speaker 1: about guys like a Woozier who I thought had a
Speaker 1: wonderful training camp and that hasn't shown up yet in
Speaker 1: the in the regular seas not enough, I should say,
Speaker 1: not consistently enough in the regular season. So it's guys
Speaker 1: like that, It's Woods who I thought had a phenomenal
Speaker 1: training camp, and I don't think that's necessarily consistently showing
Speaker 1: up here in the regular season. So it's it's baffling.
Speaker 1: And I understand your point. You only talk about what
Speaker 1: you see, but it is baffling to me that so
Speaker 1: many guys look so good in training camp and now
Speaker 1: it's just not translating to the regular season. It's a
Speaker 1: little bit different when it's offenses that you're not familiar with,
Speaker 1: scheming to do things that they know you're not good at,
Speaker 1: and yeah, you're I mean, it seems like it happens
Speaker 1: every year, and like somebody you know Byron Jones looked
Speaker 1: all Pro at safety in twenty seventeen in training camp
Speaker 1: and then obviously coming pass. Sorry, appreciate you guys. Joined
Speaker 1: us back tomorrow eleven forty five till then for Nick
Speaker 1: even Dave Helm and I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been
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