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Speaker 1: Say good Morning to Peacock, our TV partner and also
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Speaker 1: Gronkowski get together occasionally and after practice they love to
Speaker 1: sit down and toss around some topics, and Gronk asked
Speaker 1: Tom about how long he's going to play? Can Tom
Speaker 1: Brady play until fifty years old? Wow? Seems to be
Speaker 1: a really hot question lately. Can Tom Brady played a
Speaker 1: fifty you're forty four? At six more years? I think?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't find it so difficult. Com Plus,
Speaker 1: in the Florida it's kind of a retiree state. So
Speaker 1: I feel like I can play and then just go
Speaker 1: into retirement. I think I can. Yes, I think Tom
Speaker 1: plays this year, next year, and that's it. Now. I
Speaker 1: love that Gronk did the math and he did it correctly,
Speaker 1: so I thought that was really impressive. Hail. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you played a fifty or forty four, it's six more years,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Gronk. I think Tom plays this year and
Speaker 1: he plays next year. I mean if he wants to
Speaker 1: play longer. Because of the rules protecting quarterbacks, he doesn't
Speaker 1: get hit. Um, he likes Bruce Arians still has you know,
Speaker 1: Gronk there with him. It's a good team. Yeah, why not.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you can't, there's no reason not to.
Speaker 1: Guys don't say. I mean, Larry Fitzgerald chose to not
Speaker 1: play any longer, but he could have and maybe he
Speaker 1: does come back and play. I don't know. But it's
Speaker 1: rare when a player goes, you know, I think I'm
Speaker 1: going to retire. It's usually there's circumstances that dictate that
Speaker 1: you need to retire. Somebody's not going to sign you,
Speaker 1: you have injuries, you're not able to come back. Tom
Speaker 1: Brady has every reason to want to continue to play.
Speaker 1: I just think that he does this year, and he
Speaker 1: does next year. Now I don't know what he does
Speaker 1: after that. That's what I'm really curious about. You know,
Speaker 1: he's going to be in business, and he's in a
Speaker 1: variety of things, but you know, he's more of a mogul.
Speaker 1: You know, does he do stuff with healthcare? Wellness? The
Speaker 1: products TB twelve because he's a walking endorsement. When you think, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, do those things work? Yes, Look at Tom
Speaker 1: can hold up his Super Bowl ring and you've got
Speaker 1: most of the roster doing TB twelve in Tampa. And
Speaker 1: is this something that other teams will do once Tom retires?
Speaker 1: You probably don't want to do it. Say you're doing
Speaker 1: the TB twelve method while Tom is still playing, but
Speaker 1: maybe when he's done. Maybe it's something that college teams do,
Speaker 1: NFL teams do. But yeah, I don't know what. I
Speaker 1: can't see him being an analyst. Yeah. Paul Brady did
Speaker 1: an interview with the USA today in June and he
Speaker 1: was asked about playing to fifty and he said, fifty question, mark,
Speaker 1: that's a long time. Even for me, that's a long time.
Speaker 1: I've always said forty five was the age I wanted
Speaker 1: to reach it, and that was my goal. This year,
Speaker 1: I'll be forty four, next year forty five. I've got
Speaker 1: a two year contract. That was more of a real
Speaker 1: answer to a real question. Yeah, I think he plays
Speaker 1: this year and he plays next year and that'll be it.
Speaker 1: But it's not like I'm going to make the mistake
Speaker 1: that some have made and say, oh Tom slipping. He has.
Speaker 1: He hasn't shown that that he's slipping. Is he the
Speaker 1: same quarterback that he once was? Now he's a different quarterback.
Speaker 1: But he he's figured it out. He knows how to play,
Speaker 1: he knows how to beat you. Yeah, if he has
Speaker 1: a good offensive line, then he has the time to
Speaker 1: be able to beat you. You got a very good defense,
Speaker 1: a defense that is portunistic, and you got a coach
Speaker 1: who understands you and vice versa. And it feels like
Speaker 1: he's having fun. I think that's the key because a
Speaker 1: lot of times, I mean, I left ESPN and I
Speaker 1: should have left three years earlier because I wasn't having fun.
Speaker 1: And it's it's on me. It's not like a boohoo moment,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't having fun, and I thought, why am
Speaker 1: I going to continue to do this when I'm not
Speaker 1: having fun? Somebody younger should be in this job and
Speaker 1: hosting Sports Center. And that's part of the reason why
Speaker 1: I left. You know, I wanted to be at home
Speaker 1: with my family, but you know Tom is Tom spends
Speaker 1: a lot of time with his family. Now, keep in mind,
Speaker 1: Giselle said to him a while ago, and you know that, hey,
Speaker 1: I'd like it. She was ready for him to retire
Speaker 1: and you know. Also remember this. She's the one that
Speaker 1: brought up in an interview on CBS's Morning show about
Speaker 1: Tom with concussions. I don't think Tom has ever been
Speaker 1: diagnosed as having a concussion, but I think that was
Speaker 1: five years ago that Giselle was on that morning show
Speaker 1: talking about Tom and the concussions, and it felt like
Speaker 1: she was steering him towards retirement. And I think that
Speaker 1: Tom all of a sudden realized, Okay, I'm not having fun.
Speaker 1: She sees I'm not having fun. Now, his wife probably says,
Speaker 1: you do this as long as you can. The kids
Speaker 1: get to come out. He's got his oldest son who's
Speaker 1: a ball boy there. The kids have got to see
Speaker 1: their dad perform at a high level. And a lot
Speaker 1: of times what happens with athletes is their kids are
Speaker 1: too young to have seen them perform at a high level. Hell,
Speaker 1: Tom's kids could be out of college by the time
Speaker 1: he decides to retire. Thank Dad, you're still playing. Yes
Speaker 1: I am kids, Dad, You're sixty two, as I'm going
Speaker 1: to continue to play. I got fifteen Super Bowl rings?
Speaker 1: Is that was sixty two? Sounds like yeah, yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: I guess you know, I could have said, just use
Speaker 1: my voice. HBO and NFL Films announced last night at
Speaker 1: halftime of the game that they would be presenting the
Speaker 1: show during the regular season. In mid season, they'll start
Speaker 1: following the Colts. Indy has some interesting storylines. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they have interesting people, they have interesting storylines.
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz trying to return to form, Quinton Nelson great
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. The curious part is the decision to expand
Speaker 1: the brand while ratings seem to be declining on the
Speaker 1: preseason show itself, and you had the Cowboys this year.
Speaker 1: But we'll see if HBO and NFL Films can make
Speaker 1: it worth tuning in for Hard Knox. Isn't as fresh
Speaker 1: and kind of revelatory as it once was. It's still entertaining,
Speaker 1: but the quality will almost definitely be high. Even if
Speaker 1: a boring team is pre ended. There's usually a couple
Speaker 1: of characters to focus on more football viewing options is
Speaker 1: always a good thing. It feels like, yes, McLevin. It's
Speaker 1: just there's so much of this kind of footage out
Speaker 1: there now. It's just hard. I don't know how Hard
Speaker 1: Knocks finds its place. Yeah, they wouldn't have presented this
Speaker 1: at halftime last night. If they weren't going to expand it,
Speaker 1: it's not like they would go And the future of
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks is, we're canceling it. We'll be back after this,
Speaker 1: like it just wasn't going to happen. Yes, Ton, But
Speaker 1: reality TV are these shows that work are silacious. There's
Speaker 1: confrontations and things that are awkward and stuff. How much
Speaker 1: of that are the cults going to want to have
Speaker 1: out there, especially for during games that count, as opposed
Speaker 1: to before the season start. Yeah, but they script the confrontations.
Speaker 1: That's what you have to understand, you know. When it
Speaker 1: comes to all of these shows, they will say, look,
Speaker 1: you got to do something, You've got to be angry
Speaker 1: at that person, like the Real Housewives. They script all
Speaker 1: of that stuff. So it's not reality. Do you realize that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But in all County. But in a way that's even
Speaker 1: worse than the what the Colts may be caught on
Speaker 1: film doing it. I don't think there's real stuff. Well
Speaker 1: you have final saying it. I can't imagine the Colts go, yeah,
Speaker 1: come on in film. Whenever you want a film, I'm
Speaker 1: going to guess that your owner, your head coach can
Speaker 1: step in and go, look that exchange. We don't want
Speaker 1: it in the program. Now. HBO and NFL Films may go, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you do this is this is what we want. I
Speaker 1: can't imagine that, frank right, I mean, these coaches are
Speaker 1: control freaks. If you can control it, you will. They're
Speaker 1: not going to let you show an exchange that is
Speaker 1: headline grabbing. Um, you know you sort of live your
Speaker 1: there's a voyeuristic feel to these shows. Man. You get
Speaker 1: a little bit more of that with NFL Films and HBO,
Speaker 1: but you're not. I mean, you don't get that much.
Speaker 1: It's basically, you invest in a guy that you really like,
Speaker 1: you like his story, and the question is going to
Speaker 1: is he gonna get cut? And they bring him in
Speaker 1: and then and you get to watch that process. But
Speaker 1: other than that, you know, it's it's not like somebody is,
Speaker 1: you know, injecting themselves with HGH or they're taking amphetamines. Yes,
Speaker 1: it would be yes, And you know you could try
Speaker 1: to encourage your players, Hey, you're gonna do HGH, could
Speaker 1: you at least do it on camera? Here? And three
Speaker 1: two one inject not gonna happen, though I don't know
Speaker 1: the colds Okay, Yeah, I don't know if there's I
Speaker 1: think maybe Quentin Nelson's a character and uh, I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a future Hall of Famer. Yes, it
Speaker 1: seem like there's a lot of build up for that announcement.
Speaker 1: Well you weren't you a little disiplayer that I know
Speaker 1: what's coming. You know what's happening everyone cold Hard Knocks.
Speaker 1: During the season, you're gonna see what's going on with
Speaker 1: the Cold and yeah that's the news. Yeah. Yeah, But
Speaker 1: I'm not anti Colts. I'm just todd Is. I'm just
Speaker 1: anti generic or vanilla. What is it that we're going
Speaker 1: to see? And look, I don't have to watch it,
Speaker 1: nobody's forcing me to. I'm just talking about speaking for
Speaker 1: the people. You know. We want to see something, feel something,
Speaker 1: react to something, and I don't know if you will
Speaker 1: with the Colts. Yeah, I think we talked about this before.
Speaker 1: But if you're a producer for Hard Knocks with the Colts,
Speaker 1: if you could somehow get a camera with Andrew Luck,
Speaker 1: then you'd have something you can do an episode They
Speaker 1: say episode three has an interview with Andrew Luck. Everyone's
Speaker 1: tuning into that because no one's done it yet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: even if it's him just playing with his daughter, like
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that, or he's watching the Colts on
Speaker 1: TV while reading a book. I gotta go read a book.
Speaker 1: I gotta go take an out. Yes, kid, Polly just
Speaker 1: voice over something off camera. There's a plan B and
Speaker 1: then no one needs to know who it was if
Speaker 1: it's him or no, Maybe Andrew Luck could be the
Speaker 1: voiceover guy. Ah, this week, I'll be at choir practice.
Speaker 1: But the cults against the Michigan who do they have?
Speaker 1: Who's the voice dun Denton? Who's the voice of have Shriver?
Speaker 1: Yes he's so good. Yes, he's great. I mean he's good.
Speaker 1: When we met him in person, his voice on Hard
Speaker 1: Knocks didn't match his voice and not at all, and
Speaker 1: to the point where I'm like, is this real because
Speaker 1: he doesn't sound anything card Knocks. When we had him on,
Speaker 1: he said to me privately, he goes, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know anything about the show, but the guys I
Speaker 1: work with said I have to be on this show.
Speaker 1: He's not a big sports guy, but you know he was.
Speaker 1: He was really interesting because of Ray Donovan. He was
Speaker 1: showing us how to you know you you kind of
Speaker 1: fake punches slip punches that that you know, how it's
Speaker 1: all scripted and how you do that. I mean I
Speaker 1: found him really interesting. Yes, yes, I'm sure he got
Speaker 1: paid a lot of money, but I was a little
Speaker 1: worried about where his career is going. See him doing
Speaker 1: some dramatic mattress commercial, So I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: a great sign as to that there's some big blockbuster
Speaker 1: of shows and movies ahead for him. I do sleep number,
Speaker 1: you do do sleep number, you do say do do no,
Speaker 1: but you do a lot of other things. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen him in anything, and all of a sudden he
Speaker 1: popped up in some questionable commercial. You're back pedaling, Yes, McLeman.
Speaker 1: Leah Schreiberd has a ton of Shakespeare, by the way,
Speaker 1: so him do McBeth, No big deal, Central Park. Mcbeth's
Speaker 1: overrated the play or the guy. I thought it's Lady Macbeth.
Speaker 1: The play is called I think it's called McBeth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Lady mcbeth's a star. Yeah, she's so Talkedbeth about
Speaker 1: a guy or about a woman. What's really about the guy? Well,
Speaker 1: this is a long conversation. We're coming up on a break.
Speaker 1: It's really about all of us. Dan, Yeah, uh, Sarah
Speaker 1: in Georgia joints us Oh, Sarah, Hey, good morning Dan
Speaker 1: and Dan. Good morning Cappy. Happy to be on your call.
Speaker 1: It's a follow up call. Yesterday, my husband Rob spoke
Speaker 1: to you and tried to snag an invite to them
Speaker 1: meet Friday. Oh yes, but yeah, that didn't work out.
Speaker 1: But he forgot to tell you that yesterday was his birthday,
Speaker 1: so I wanted to have you wish him a happy birthday.
Speaker 1: And he's getting some Dan Patrick items for his Birthday's
Speaker 1: getting a let tat book T shirt. How cool is that? Sarah,
Speaker 1: Stay on hold. Well, well we'll get you some gear.
Speaker 1: We'll have the back room guys send it out. And
Speaker 1: happy birthday to your husband. Happy. I think they were
Speaker 1: driving to Maine. He wanted to stop in for meet Friday.
Speaker 1: I said, nah. I think he said, we don't really
Speaker 1: do that. Well we don't. I was trying to be
Speaker 1: nice to him. Not really, we're not exactly open for business. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just best that you keep going to Maine. Company policy. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't. More phone calls coming up, and
Speaker 1: we'll talk to Ken Burns. He does documentaries and his
Speaker 1: latest one is on Mohammad Ali. Also the meat Friday
Speaker 1: we'll have that will take it off the grill. Coming
Speaker 1: up here a little bit. It seems like when people
Speaker 1: call him for birthday shout out to their birthday becomes
Speaker 1: worse than it was, and alwants always somehow You'll say, like,
Speaker 1: why didn't you take her out for here? Well? No,
Speaker 1: when somebody calls in and then they say, I'd like
Speaker 1: to wish my wife a happy birthday, and I'll go, well,
Speaker 1: why didn't you just go in the next room and
Speaker 1: wish her happy birthday four feet away? Yeah, this is
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Speaker 1: shining Light, my night and shining Armor, my rock. It's
Speaker 1: always my rock. Hey Dan, uh Hey, it's me. We're
Speaker 1: driving up from Georgia just to come see. Can we
Speaker 1: stop by? No, I'm sorry, we don't do that. Hey,
Speaker 1: I got my wife with they were driving up. We
Speaker 1: drove all the way from Georgia, Dan, hope, but we
Speaker 1: can stop by meet Friday. Howdy. We're not exactly open
Speaker 1: for business, Yeah, we don't. We don't do that company policy.
Speaker 1: From the other side of the fence. I just created
Speaker 1: the policy. It's like nine hundred miles into this trip. Hey,
Speaker 1: you don't want I'll call him along the way. He'll
Speaker 1: he'll he'll have to let us stop by. We don't
Speaker 1: do that. Birthday Yeah, uh more phone calls coming up.
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Speaker 1: This week, I guess it's me. Yeah, Paul, where's any
Speaker 1: fallout at home from the revelations during her interview? No,
Speaker 1: any breaking new, No, no, nobody says a bad thing
Speaker 1: about my wife. She's she's awesome, she's great. She she
Speaker 1: just she means well, she's she's the opposite of me.
Speaker 1: She's talking, she's tough, like, yeah, you know, there could
Speaker 1: be like a ceiling falling down. She's like, I got it.
Speaker 1: They need balance in every relationships. Yes, yes we do. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm the yang to the end. Yes, yes, I thought
Speaker 1: the BRGS took a couple of shots to you. Actually,
Speaker 1: that's okay, I mean, that's that's why it's the back
Speaker 1: Room Guys podcast where they talk about what goes on
Speaker 1: on the show. Yeah, they called you restless. They said
Speaker 1: you were like a shark. You always have to keep moving.
Speaker 1: I do. I can't sit and watch anything because my
Speaker 1: wife will go Yeah, let's sit and watch a movie,
Speaker 1: and I'll go, okay, I'll start and it'll be like
Speaker 1: eight minutes in. I go okay, I gotta get it,
Speaker 1: and I move around a little bit. Uh. Todd is
Speaker 1: getting roughed up because he said something about Lieb Shriver. Um,
Speaker 1: stay in your limerick, Lane, Fritzie. Lieb Shriver's career is
Speaker 1: just fine. Sorry, Virgil, Yeah, very upset with me? Yeah
Speaker 1: on a Friday? Yeah. Uh. Reagan Arizona, Hey, Greg, how
Speaker 1: are you great? Greg? Before I get started with my limerick,
Speaker 1: I think you're missing out on a revenue stream for
Speaker 1: those people that want wanting to come up from Georgia
Speaker 1: and to the place. All right, but no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I can't charge them, could I could? I mean I could.
Speaker 1: But you can shoot. You can teach him how to
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Speaker 1: some money to make, all right, What do you have
Speaker 1: for mec Greig? My Friday limerick that Bill Belichick is
Speaker 1: overrated as the greatest coach of all time? Apologies to Seeton.
Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Greg and Arizona his limerick
Speaker 1: about Bill Belichick being overrated in Cleveland, Bill Belichick and
Speaker 1: Nick Sagan were barely afloat model had enough sad. You
Speaker 1: need to bowl in New England. He is a hero,
Speaker 1: but without he is a zero. Don't believe me. Look
Speaker 1: at his record without the goat all right, thank you, Greg.
Speaker 1: That goes with the whole witty but not like hysterica.
Speaker 1: I got it, I got it, I got it. I
Speaker 1: don't know where it was witty, but you are mister Limerick,
Speaker 1: having won a contest after stealing somebody's Limerick. I did
Speaker 1: they put in the elementary school newsletter that once was
Speaker 1: a man from Peru dreamed he was kissing his shoe.
Speaker 1: He awoke in the night in the terrible fright, found
Speaker 1: out it was perfectly It was perfectly true that it
Speaker 1: was plagier is I did so you cheat in school?
Speaker 1: I did, eventually, player, But I did eventually tell the
Speaker 1: teacher because my mom was like, you got to tell
Speaker 1: the teacher that you copied that word for word from
Speaker 1: a book. Did you rescind the award? No? I was
Speaker 1: there in the newsletter and I'm not going to give
Speaker 1: back the little certificate and already had my name infecial
Speaker 1: print on her. Yes. See how much time had passed
Speaker 1: between the printing of the school newspaper and you're telling
Speaker 1: the teacher. I'm going to say probably several days. It
Speaker 1: was either it was either the end of that week
Speaker 1: or the next week. It was probably approximately a weekend.
Speaker 1: The guilt was just too much. And I'm like, I
Speaker 1: copied that out of a book. I didn't make that
Speaker 1: up myself. Ken Burns is a great documentary filmmaker. I
Speaker 1: don't know how I'm gonna make it this segue, but
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I know you did. But he did Vietnam War,
Speaker 1: he did the history of baseball, he did the Civil War.
Speaker 1: And he has a new documentary that premiers at September
Speaker 1: nineteenth through the twenty second on PBS, and it's a
Speaker 1: four part film by ken Burns, his oldest daughter Sarah,
Speaker 1: and her husband David McMahon and h ken Burns kind
Speaker 1: enough to join us on the program. When did Muhammad
Speaker 1: Ali become a hero? I think he was a hero
Speaker 1: almost from the beginning. Um that that kind of pan
Speaker 1: world here. Heroism happens at the towards the end and
Speaker 1: as we let go of the memories of some of
Speaker 1: the divisive aspects. But he's at the beginning, He's saying
Speaker 1: I'm pretty as a girl, I'm black, I'm beautiful. He
Speaker 1: is providing many people in this country with phrases and
Speaker 1: purchase for ideas that he didn't have. We made a
Speaker 1: film on Jackie Robinson. He redefined black manhood, black masculinity.
Speaker 1: Muhammad Alai came along and redefined it in a different way.
Speaker 1: Athletes weren't supposed to speak that way. They weren't supposed
Speaker 1: to brag, and certainly black athletes weren't supposed to do that.
Speaker 1: And he did it anyway and just brought him into
Speaker 1: so many people's hearts. If he turned off some other people,
Speaker 1: and then he joins a separatist religious sect, which turns
Speaker 1: off another group of people, and then strike three, he
Speaker 1: refuses to induction into the United States Army, and so
Speaker 1: we think of him as divisive. He's also quite provocative
Speaker 1: about how he treats his opponents Joe Frasier, for example,
Speaker 1: Todd Boyd the Scott says in our film, you know,
Speaker 1: he uses the language that a white racist would use
Speaker 1: about a black man to describe his opponent too black men,
Speaker 1: and it's inexcusable. And yet emerging out of it is
Speaker 1: a person always with a sort of a joadevivra, a
Speaker 1: kind of great sense of humor, a sense of natural
Speaker 1: promoting in in a very American sense, and a kind
Speaker 1: of beauty. I mean, he's the greatest athlete of the
Speaker 1: twentieth century, maybe of all time. He's won the championship
Speaker 1: three times, even though he lost three and a half
Speaker 1: years at the height of his power because of his
Speaker 1: religious beliefs. This is a black man saying I won't
Speaker 1: fight in the Vietnam War for religious reasons. An American
Speaker 1: can only hear black man doesn't want to go. He's
Speaker 1: giving us the middle finger. This is a political gesture.
Speaker 1: So even though the prosecutors are suggesting a more lenient sentence,
Speaker 1: the judge sends him too the maximum five years, and
Speaker 1: when he's exonerated, he begins to come back. He begins
Speaker 1: a climb that begins with some wins, but most significantly
Speaker 1: in the Fight of the Century and seventy one against
Speaker 1: Joe Frasier, a loss which he takes very well. He's
Speaker 1: behind on points, he goes out in the last round.
Speaker 1: He's knocked down, he gets back up again. He's very
Speaker 1: soft spoken and speaks about the larger sense of being
Speaker 1: a role model even in loss, and from then on
Speaker 1: it's just Robert Lipside in our film says Joe Frasier
Speaker 1: won the fight, but Muhammad Ali won America. And I
Speaker 1: think from that moment on it just goes exponentially so
Speaker 1: that when he dies not too long ago, as you know,
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, he dies the most beloved person on the planet,
Speaker 1: which has got to tell you something. I couldn't help
Speaker 1: but notice this Ken when I'm watching this, that it's
Speaker 1: almost like he was he was able to listen to
Speaker 1: what people say about you after you die. Because once
Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali, like he was awake for his funeral because
Speaker 1: he was, people were they were comfortable talking about Ali
Speaker 1: as if he was past because he couldn't speak. And
Speaker 1: it just dawned on me that what that must have
Speaker 1: been like for Ali to listen. I mean, he probably
Speaker 1: loved it because you know, still talking. Yeah, they were
Speaker 1: saying all these nice things. I was also curious about
Speaker 1: his ring Bravado, and it brought about images of maybe
Speaker 1: wrestling like wrestlers were over the top and gregarious, and
Speaker 1: I wondered, because we didn't have that. Boxers weren't like that,
Speaker 1: Athletes weren't like that, like, where did that come from? Well,
Speaker 1: you know. David Remnick, the writer and biographer early biographer
Speaker 1: of Cassius Clay. Muhammad Ali also talked about one of
Speaker 1: the great inspirational moments. He's in Las Vegas for a fight,
Speaker 1: but he goes and he sees gorgeous George who was
Speaker 1: the villain and wrestling, who permed up his hair and
Speaker 1: was preening and whatever and wearing this outlandish stuff and
Speaker 1: and kind of on androgynous at times. And he understood
Speaker 1: that it didn't matter. People paid to see him and
Speaker 1: paid to hate him, and what he said, boo his
Speaker 1: throat peanuts, but whatever you do, pay to get in.
Speaker 1: And I think he understood a fundamental aspect of American
Speaker 1: hype of Pete Barnumism is that it didn't really matter
Speaker 1: and that he could still be provocative. May I just
Speaker 1: admit as I should have at the start. This is
Speaker 1: a film directed by my daughter Sarah Burns and David McMahon,
Speaker 1: her husband. We've been collaborating together and a lot of
Speaker 1: things as well as me. But it's also to acknowledge
Speaker 1: there are lots of documentaries on Muhammad Ali, and there
Speaker 1: are several really good documentaries on Muhammad Ali really really good,
Speaker 1: and we don't mean to suggest that they are not.
Speaker 1: We wanted to do something comprehensive from boyhood, birth and
Speaker 1: boyhood and segregated Jim Crow Louisville to death by Parkinson's
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, and not just follow the fights and
Speaker 1: not just pay lip service to the nation of un
Speaker 1: but understand him as being a human being on a
Speaker 1: very legitimate and genuine spiritual quest. And also the personal
Speaker 1: stuff in the family and the biography and the wives
Speaker 1: and the children, and so this is this is as
Speaker 1: I think as comprehensive as you can get in terms
Speaker 1: of the arc of the life of one of the
Speaker 1: most extraordinary Americans who's ever lived. It's a four part
Speaker 1: film by Ken and his daughter and her husband and
Speaker 1: a premier September nineteenth through the twenty second on on PBS.
Speaker 1: How do you find the sweet spot for a documentary?
Speaker 1: You know, would you would presume that this is an
Speaker 1: additive process, you know, like you're building a house. It's subtractive, Dan,
Speaker 1: you know, we collect, you know, this is eight hours long.
Speaker 1: We've got four or five hundred hours of material, right,
Speaker 1: and then you're distilling it, to use a Louisville, Kentucky term,
Speaker 1: you're distilling it down to a kind of essence. And
Speaker 1: so our cutting room floor is not filled with bad stuff.
Speaker 1: It fills with really really good stuff that you look
Speaker 1: at and go, burns, you've lost your mind. Why isn't
Speaker 1: that in there? And you go, well, it was there
Speaker 1: for six months, but it seemed to destabilize that. So
Speaker 1: our process is always being open. You know. It's not
Speaker 1: a set research period followed by a writing period that
Speaker 1: produces a script that informs the shooting and editing. Boom done.
Speaker 1: We never stop researching, and we found stuff no one
Speaker 1: has ever put forward before because we spent PBS. We
Speaker 1: spent seven years. No suit is saying I need this
Speaker 1: by the summer. How often do people stomp you on
Speaker 1: the street and say I got a great idea for
Speaker 1: a documentary? Every day? What's the strangest? Well, what one
Speaker 1: person wanted to be They said, here, I'm giving you.
Speaker 1: They mailed this in. I'm giving you the four volumes
Speaker 1: of my grandfather's memoir of his Civil War years. Although
Speaker 1: I'd done the Civil War, turns out he never left Maine.
Speaker 1: But but you know, self published this memoir. Okay, so
Speaker 1: I finally, after about ten years, I did it up.
Speaker 1: The number one thing is railroads, the number two thing
Speaker 1: is labor, the next thing is education, and then they're
Speaker 1: just you know, you got to do this, and they're
Speaker 1: all right, And I'm working on seven films right now
Speaker 1: because I am sixty eight years old, and I know
Speaker 1: if I were given a thousand years to live, which
Speaker 1: I will not, I would not run out of topics
Speaker 1: in American history. And so I want to do I've
Speaker 1: got four different producing teams, Sarenda or one of them,
Speaker 1: and we're just working on as many as we can
Speaker 1: in different stages of undress. And because I'm greedy for
Speaker 1: that experience of finding the sweet spot. I mean, I
Speaker 1: want to put my head on the pillow at the
Speaker 1: end of the day and say, God, I made at
Speaker 1: least one of them. Better give me the sports documentary
Speaker 1: that hasn't been done but should be. That's a really
Speaker 1: good question I tried. In baseball. I did an update
Speaker 1: the tenth inning. I promise people that if the Cubs
Speaker 1: won the World Series from eleventh inning and thought I
Speaker 1: was so safe, George Will said, well, they're having a
Speaker 1: bad century, and it turned out that's all it was,
Speaker 1: was a bad century in a decade. So I've got
Speaker 1: to do that at some point. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: nice new stuff about it, but I got to just
Speaker 1: find a bandwidth to do that. I love baseball. It's
Speaker 1: the greatest sport ever invented. I love football a lot,
Speaker 1: and I'd like to see something done. I guess in
Speaker 1: football that isn't just you know, the dramas of the
Speaker 1: reality TV nature of the of the behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is right now, but nothing
Speaker 1: compares to baseball. And it's funny. I'm not a boxing fan.
Speaker 1: I made two boxing films. They total, you know, twelve
Speaker 1: hours of time on Jack Johnson four and on this
Speaker 1: one eight. But it's only because these two men were
Speaker 1: so transcendent. I mean, I a lot of the sports
Speaker 1: writers who I've done lots of interviews with, and we've
Speaker 1: got three of the very best writer lipside, Dave Kindred
Speaker 1: and and Jerry Eisenberg in the film, who were cubs
Speaker 1: growing up with Muhammad Ali and love him and care
Speaker 1: about him and remember each bad punch. But you know,
Speaker 1: I would I ask each one, and no one's answered.
Speaker 1: I said, who's the heavyweight champion right now. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: After Muhammad Ali. You got a little dribble of Mike
Speaker 1: Tyson and then you know what, it does not matter
Speaker 1: until somebody else like him comes along. And hate to
Speaker 1: give away the plot, no one like Muhammad Ali is
Speaker 1: ever coming along again. Do you need coffee or a nap?
Speaker 1: I don't drink coffee because there's no problem getting me
Speaker 1: out of bed. What I need is, you know, the
Speaker 1: conk on the head at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: because you know it just just to shut the thing up.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Ken, well done as always, Thank you great
Speaker 1: to be with you. That's Ken Burns Muhammad Ali for
Speaker 1: part film with Ken, his oldest daughter and her husband,
Speaker 1: premiers Sunday, September nineteenth, through the twenty second on PBS.
Speaker 1: I've mentioned before on the show that I've been I
Speaker 1: was around Muhammad Ali a couple of times, and once
Speaker 1: was at the SP's and another time I was at
Speaker 1: the hospital when he first checked in when he was
Speaker 1: diagnosed with parkins. I was in New York and then
Speaker 1: in Arizona. They do they did a fight night, did
Speaker 1: a wonderful job with celebrities and they were honoring Muhammad
Speaker 1: Ali and I hosted that night, and I have this
Speaker 1: picture where I'm giving him this ring and he's standing there,
Speaker 1: and it's it's one of my favorite pictures of all
Speaker 1: the things I've ever done, because I'm holding this ring
Speaker 1: and he's waiting for it, and you know, he couldn't speak.
Speaker 1: But for somebody who wasn't able to speak, you know,
Speaker 1: the latter part of his life, he said an awful
Speaker 1: lot in body language, and everybody talked about how he
Speaker 1: was such a practical joker. But when he first burst
Speaker 1: on the scene, and I'm probably twelve years of age,
Speaker 1: and I just I remember asking my dad about athletes
Speaker 1: didn't do that, Like they didn't they weren't raggadocious, like
Speaker 1: they didn't come out and say those things. And then
Speaker 1: you know, my dad, being a marine, I said, and
Speaker 1: he's not going into the military. And my dad didn't
Speaker 1: believe in the Vietnam War. And in fact, my oldest
Speaker 1: brother we thought was going to get drafted and have
Speaker 1: to go to Vietnam. And my dad didn't want my
Speaker 1: oldest brother to go to war because he knew wasn't
Speaker 1: a war we'd win. And I just remember he talked
Speaker 1: about Muhammad Ali, and he understood what Muhammad Ali was saying.
Speaker 1: I didn't at the time, And man was it. He
Speaker 1: was polarizing that you either loved Joe Frey like white
Speaker 1: people loved Joe Frazier, whereas I think Muhammad Ali scared
Speaker 1: a lot of people. But man, as far as charisma
Speaker 1: to do what he did, how he did it, everybody
Speaker 1: else is an impostor because he did it. He'd say
Speaker 1: when he was going to knock you out, he invented this,
Speaker 1: but it came from gorgeous George the wrestler. That's where
Speaker 1: it started. He saw him as this entertainer performer, but
Speaker 1: that's wrestling. This was boxing. So if it's Ken Burns,
Speaker 1: you know it'll be great. The archival footage is something
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that I'd never seen before.
Speaker 1: But it starts September nineteenth through the twenty second on
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Speaker 1: my name is trending, but what is being said under
Speaker 1: my name is the lieutenant governor at Texas and do
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Speaker 1: And if you could pass on to those who may
Speaker 1: think that those are my comments, I thank you, because
Speaker 1: it feels like every six months he's not even the governor,
Speaker 1: he's the lieutenant governor, and he has some things that
Speaker 1: don't align with what I think. So I'm trending for
Speaker 1: all the wrong reasons. Will Fuller will not practice today
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins. According to Joe Shadd won't play Sunday
Speaker 1: against the Bills due to a personal issue. Head coach
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Speaker 1: worst Division AFC South. But that's going to turn around
Speaker 1: this weekend, Dan, you think so well? I think there
Speaker 1: are a couple potential upsets. Oh do you have against
Speaker 1: the grain? Potential upsets? Fire up the music m M
Speaker 1: seatons fired up again, and Polly came up with a
Speaker 1: with a side of visual effect upset alert. Yeah that's
Speaker 1: what we got so far. Okay, Um, a lot of
Speaker 1: people are actually picking this one. The Cults host the Rams.
Speaker 1: The Rams are three and a half point favorites. It
Speaker 1: feels like a Cults bounce back, doesn't it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put that. Are you asking your three? No? I have
Speaker 1: three upset alerts, but I need your approval, desk. Okay.
Speaker 1: The Eagles are three point dogs at home against a
Speaker 1: night Nick Sirian, he's onto something and I like that
Speaker 1: one too. The West Coast team coming east and playing
Speaker 1: on one oclong playing game. There's actually a couple more.
Speaker 1: I'm curious where you think it's a better one. The
Speaker 1: Panthers hosts the Saints. The Saints are three and a
Speaker 1: half point favorites. Doesn't that kind of feel like the
Speaker 1: Panthers trap game? Question mark? Okay, but this is what
Speaker 1: I find really interesting. Talk AFC South, Tennessee goes to Seattle.
Speaker 1: There's six and a half point dogs. Seattle's won twelve
Speaker 1: straight home openers, but Tennessee matches up pretty well with them. Seattle.
Speaker 1: I was reading the preview, Seattle has no secondary and
Speaker 1: Tennessee's got Julio Joe's at aj Brown. Possible they right
Speaker 1: the ship. That's in my questionable upset category. There's always
Speaker 1: one or two games where you go, how is this happening?
Speaker 1: And we had that with the Eagles last week in
Speaker 1: Arizona last week, where you go, how's that happening? Green
Speaker 1: Bay not playing well? Was a surprise that they lost
Speaker 1: is not a surprise. There's gonna be a couple of
Speaker 1: them this week where you go, are you kidding? Now?
Speaker 1: Does it Bears Bengals? It's a two point spread, Bears
Speaker 1: are favorites. It's in Chicago. Is that a big upset?
Speaker 1: If Cincinnati wins at that doesn't even really qualified as it. No,
Speaker 1: it does not. I like the AFC South to bounce back,
Speaker 1: even though I've been ripping them, even though you don't
Speaker 1: like the AC so I will watch it, but I
Speaker 1: assume Titans and Cults baby those by way, dude. You know,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna actually wager on knees, you might want
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Speaker 1: This day in sports history, PAULI. Nineteen eighty three, the
Speaker 1: great Johnny Bench retired from the Reds three. You shed
Speaker 1: a tier that day, Dan, Yes? Or no? Probably not?
Speaker 1: Maybe choked up? Probably not. Nineteen twenty, the American Professional
Speaker 1: Football Association with form in Kent, Ohio, it became the
Speaker 1: National Football League. Imagine if they kept the name the
Speaker 1: APF A on like the different shows, they'd be like,
Speaker 1: you know, you can't just do that in the American
Speaker 1: Professional Ball Association that you can't run the ball like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you can't say NFL, you have to say National
Speaker 1: Football League. By the way, Jim Thorpe was the first
Speaker 1: president of that league, the first president, I guess of
Speaker 1: the NFL. Anything else that m Minnesota Vikings debuted as
Speaker 1: a new team in the National Football League nineteen sixty one.
Speaker 1: Dan Marino's number thirteen jersey retired by the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: I have a Dan Marino autograph jersey here just above
Speaker 1: my desk, next to the Barry Sanders and Brett Farve
Speaker 1: autograph Jersey Yes time and Dan marinos sixtieth birthday was Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Happy birthday to dinner, all right, Big day for Dan Marino,
Speaker 1: Big week for Dan Marino, Ryan and Honolulu will try
Speaker 1: to squeeze him in. Hi, Ryan. My DP show calendar
Speaker 1: says tomorrow's day in sports history is National Honor qual
Speaker 1: Calm Day. So make sure we all do that. Okay.
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