WEBVTT - How Mexican Wrestling Works 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:07.560 It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff You Should Know 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:16.959 from house stock Works dot Com. Hey, welcome to the podcast. 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:20.360 I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and uh 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:25.680 that makes the Stuff you Should Know the l A edition. Yeah, 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:30.520 called me a Choco. Is that your name? Hell, Chaco, 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:32.800 I don't know what does that mean? The chocolate? I 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:35.760 don't know. It probably means something bad, Chaco. We might 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:38.879 just look that up. It might mean nothing at all. 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:43.680 I just said instead of Chucko, I said Chaco. I like, well, 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:51.360 it's the kind of um like crunchy sandals. Chaco. There's 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:56.200 a canyon all right, Yeah, you're you're the canyon. Yeah. 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:59.960 From that the Anasaza used to inhabit. That's my luchador name, okay, 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:03.640 and you pronounce it correctly. It's not Luke, It's luch 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:07.480 Do people say Lukador? I did in my head until 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:14.400 I looked up the lucha Lucha libreva boom. Yes, yeah, 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:19.119 the sexiest of all wrestling matches. I just went over 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:24.520 how to video. All right, what's your intro? Well, this 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:29.959 is pretty much it this long, meandering, terrible thing. Ah. 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:34.880 While we're talking about Chuck Mexican Wrestling also known as 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:39.720 Lucha Libre, file this under fun. Yeah, this is pretty cool. Um, 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:42.200 we're going to go ahead right now and promise a 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:48.160 larger pro wrestling UM podcast. I think I think we 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:51.080 should do it because there's a documentary out now, UM 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:54.040 that I want to see called Memphis Heat, and it's 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:58.160 about Memphis wrestling Jerry Lawler came from and Coffin was 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:02.680 involved in, like like what basically gave birth to w 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:08.200 WF what I consider the heyday. Sure, and Luca Libre 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.920 is very reminiscent to me of the older days of 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:16.480 American wrestling, which I'm not into anymore. It doesn't good kid, 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:20.280 I was, Oh, yeah, man, he saw Jim tugging um 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:25.440 Hulk Andre the Giant w W Y there's a cartoon 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.959 run there. Didn't they have a cartoon? I'm pretty sure 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:32.320 they did. If they haven't, then their way overdue. Yeah. 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:34.959 Have you ever heard Jason Segels Andre the Giant? But 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:41.160 it's amazing. He does something with his throat and it's uh. 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:44.000 He did it in that one movie with Paul Rudd 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:46.440 that was actually pretty good. And then he did it 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:49.920 on Saturday Night Live recently in a skit called Andre 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:52.920 the Giant orders ice cream and he goes into an 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:57.040 ice cream shop. It just yeah, it's really I will 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:01.799 definitely check it out. But we're talking about Mexican wrestling today. 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:04.360 We're talking about Mexican wrestling, um. And to talk about 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:08.120 Mexican wrestling, unfortunately, UM, you have to go back to 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:13.440 the beginning of wrestling, which originated in America. Yeah, that's 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.080 kind of wrestling. Sure, yeah, yeah, we're not talking like 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.600 Greco Roman or anything like that. But professional wrestling started 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.560 in the late nineteenth century in America. UM, and it 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.440 had a little bit of a boom. It was very serious, 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:30.919 it was very legitimate, and then people got bored with it. YEP. 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:34.240 So in the nineteen twenties, these guys, these three professional 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:38.600 wrestlers called the gold Dust Trio. Yeah, they because everything 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.480 they touched her into gold. And they were like expert promoters. 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:43.840 They were like, you know what, I think we should 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.720 stop taking ourselves to seriously, let's just start making things up. 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.640 And everybody said what and they're like yeah, yeah, we're 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:54.280 like we do this in carnivals. Rights Entertainment and everybody said, well, yeah, 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.760 this is a carnival act. They said, well, we know 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:00.680 about KFABE and cafebe is basically like keeping up the 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:05.200 suspension of disbelief. It's made up stuff carried out as 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:09.440 if it were real. That's the whole premise behind professional wrestling, 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.200 which I'm sorry to break in eleven year old heart. 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:16.360 Right now, professional wrestling is fake. The athleticism isn't fake. 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:22.359 But if somebody like is you know, really the the 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:25.000 guy outside of the ring is not really sleeping with 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.840 the other guy's wife and that's not why they're fighting, 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:33.760 right then, right? Okay, so, um, the storylines are manufactured 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:38.400 for entertainment purposes. But they're all amazing athletes and they 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:42.719 all do really get hurt and inflict pain many times. Yeah, 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:48.200 I mean it's real blood. Um. Okay, well in a 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:53.440 lot of cases. In some cases. Uh so this isies 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.520 when pro wrestling, as we understand it, with the Cafe 0:04:56.240 --> 0:05:02.200 Abe started, within ten years we had luch libre Mexican wrestling. Yeah, 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:07.920 thanks to a guy named Don Salvador Lutos Gonzales. That's right, 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:12.400 he is the father of the Lucha libre and he 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:16.000 started the first Mexican Wrestling league called the Impresi, Makana, 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:21.200 the Lucha Libre and thank you, and it originally came 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:24.320 from Spain from what I understand too, and they called 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:28.040 it catches, catch can and then just catch. But then 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:31.839 during the Spanish Civil War, I think people, uh, the 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:35.200 Spanish went back to Spain and it sort of just 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:39.160 the wrestlers migrated over to Mexico. Is that it worked. Yes, 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:42.719 the Spanish Civil War shut everything down. Let's shut the 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:46.240 league's downy Um. What was that movie where that It 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:49.240 was about the little boy and it's set during the 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:53.800 Spanish Civil War in the orphanage. Uh that was what's 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:58.600 his face? The Gilmo del Toro. What was the name 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:00.719 of that movie. It was good, It was very creepy. 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:05.040 So see that movie, look it up. So yeah, so um, 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.360 Don Gonzalez said, okay, well, let's just take it back 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:11.040 to Mexico. And that's where Mexican wrestling came from. That's 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:14.960 why it's seated in Mexico. Um. The earliest Mexican wrestlers 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:16.880 used to go back and forth between Mexico and Spain 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:20.040 until the Spanish Civil War. And they said Spain is 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:22.039 a little crazy, right, now we're going to stick to Mexico. 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:25.760 And not only that, we've got a steady supply of 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.599 professional wrestlers from America. They're gonna make up some of 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:34.400 the earliest Lucca doors. Yeah. He was inspired by Texas wrestling, right, 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:36.920 which that was pretty awesome in the nineteen thirties. Yes, 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:40.080 well I think it was, if not based in Texas, 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:42.480 there were carnivals that were being held that came through 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:46.640 Texas to saw Um and so he gave birth to 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:50.360 what was it called the Impressive Mexicana de Lucha Libre. Yeah, 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:54.599 the E M L L which is now yes, and 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:58.919 this is like the the w W E of Mexican wrestling. 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:05.040 It's like the big one Concerjo de Luca Libre. Why 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:07.520 do you crack up every day you do? It's so internest. 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:12.120 Well I'll try to, you know, be authentica. UM so 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:15.480 chuck wish. Since since you are so into the Spanish 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:21.600 um pronunciation, can you translate lucha libre for the listeners? Yes, Uh, 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:25.040 free fighting or free wrestling is what it's called, or 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:29.960 translated as and M. One of the reasons why is 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:33.640 because you know, sort of Lucy goosey. It wasn't like 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:38.360 it's entertainment and not sport. So you want to talk 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:43.240 about the entertainment, let's talk about lucha libre as a whole, 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:49.040 like on a very broad scale. Okay, the luchador is 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:52.760 the name of the wrestler. Lucha libre is the wrestling 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:58.040 and they one one of the biggest things that distinguishes 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:02.240 them from their American counter parts is the mask. The 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:05.960 mask is huge, and while not all of them wear masks, 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:11.320 most of them start out wearing masks. Very important to 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:15.440 the culture. It is of their wrestling. Um. And it's 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.920 a really really big deal to not wear the mask. Like, 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:23.840 you can't just go up and unmasked a Mexican wrestler. No, no, no, 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:29.520 they'll kill you on the spot. Um. This whole kind 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:33.440 of persona of the luchador goes outside of the ring too, 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:36.920 And so you may be in your local grocery store 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:40.640 and if a luchador lives nearby, he will probably be 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:44.240 grocery shopping wearing his mask. Yeah. They carry that identity. 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:46.720 Uh A lot of times they will pass it down 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:50.480 to their their sons and carry on the family tradition 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:53.520 of of the luchador. Very important to the culture. It's 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:56.520 not just some you know, redneck sport like it is 0:08:56.559 --> 0:09:00.840 here right now. Um, not true. I'm sorry. Did you 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.680 like how quickly I agreed? We're gonna get in trouble 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:07.160 for that one. We are. Um. So, Luchadors are technical 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:10.680 traditionally divided along two lines, the good guys and the 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.640 bad guys, or in American pro wrestling, the bad guys 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:18.560 are called heels. Down there, they're called rudos, rude boys, 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:23.280 or um just basically villains. And then the good guys, 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:28.480 the heroes, are called technicos and um, yeah, you've got. 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:33.200 The rudos are often um like that. I guess the 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:38.439 spine of lucha libre is that it's very populist. So 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:42.000 like a technico will be like based on a superhero, 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:46.600 a saint, an Aztec warrior, somebody who is all about 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:50.600 fighting for the common man. Yes, the farmers, the poor people. 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.120 We are the ones who will stick up for you, 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:58.040 right exactly. And then the rudos they're like they often 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:03.720 have the character of corrupt cop or official, a drug dealer, 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:07.079 a gangster. Yeah, which I imagine, like, especially these days, 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:11.680 if you are a rudeo and you're like portraying a 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.880 drug dealer, you're probably on thin ice and that might 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:18.440 not be the best choice these days. Um. And so 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:23.400 that's this battle between you know, the the little person 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:27.160 and then the larger authority that's trying to oppress them, 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:29.679 and then the little person of the person that is 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:32.679 fights on behalf of the little person tends to win. 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:37.520 That's right. Good good conquers evil exactly. Yea, unless you're 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:39.559 a good villain, because that can be played up, you know, 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:41.480 over the years as well. Sure, I think one of 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:43.400 these guys that can't remember made his career as one 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:46.600 of like the great villains, that was Guerrero, I think. Okay, 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:52.640 I believe, yes, we mentioned the masks how important they are. 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:55.400 The masters play such a huge part that they have 0:10:55.480 --> 0:11:00.600 certain matches called uh luca pistas matches with wagers. Did 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:04.440 you see this? They are very special match matches where 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:08.520 they will wager generally one of three things, either their mask, 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.800 their hair, or their career, and it can be in 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.240 any combination. It can be I bet my mask versus 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.200 your hair, my hair versus your hair, my career versus 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:19.719 your mask. I just I bet my hair. But this 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.560 about it. And at the end of this match, obviously 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:27.319 whoever loses either is unmasked, which means they're either done 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:30.520 or they adopt a new persona and leave that behind. 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.400 I have heard that that's not the case. I heard 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:38.280 that if you lose your mask, you can't wrestle masked 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:42.800 any longer. You can wrestle, but you wrestle shamefully, as 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:47.960 Jonathan Strickling explained it to me, shamefully bare faced. Okay, well, 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:49.640 I've seen you can adopt a new and so I 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:51.679 bet you someone out there nose for sure. Yes, we'll 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:56.719 find out, um. Or if you're probably nearing retirement, you 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.040 would you would bet your career. I doubt if you 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.600 would do that. It's like a twenty year old UM, 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:04.200 because it would make much sense. And you will literally 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:07.320 have to retire. At the end of the match. You 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:11.120 will reveal your name, your hometown, and how long you've 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:15.920 been wrestling traditionally after you've been unmasked or retired by defeat. 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:19.959 And uh that is the Lucas day a quistas, and 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:23.000 they don't do it very often. It's pretty heated match obviously. Yeah, 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:25.280 I would imagine this. There's something at Steak. It's probably 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:31.280 very um, very well watched too. It's also characterized more 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.960 like the lighter wrestlers are more popular, whereas in the 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:40.200 United States the more popular guy. I mean, they're all huge, huge, 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:43.360 right rif um. But yeah, Luca Doors tend to be 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:47.360 smaller and quicker and more agile than American wrestlers. There's 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:52.440 a little more high flying acrobatics that's associated with lucha libre, 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:57.000 and it's like very fast paced, like one move after 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:01.000 the other. That's right. Um. And also we I wanted 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:07.720 to mention rudous, like the characters are sometimes Americans and 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.679 just to get the crowd rialed up, like the American 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:16.040 Rudeau will, um, we'll be just as total racist and 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:20.480 like classist, right and um. And apparently the crowd goes 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:24.000 crazy for that. I'm sure against that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:28.240 that's funny. So you mentioned the main league now is 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:31.720 the CMLL. There's also a rival league. And I don't 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:34.079 keep up with American Pro wrestling anymore. They're they're still 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:38.000 is it two leagues? I know there's like w We 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:41.280 have a friend who moved to w W. Yeah, that's right. 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:43.880 I don't know what the rival is anymore, though w 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.120 W I think it is. I think it is I'm 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:51.120 pretty sure. Well, they had their International Wrestling Revolution group 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:55.840 and uh oh, I'm sorry. There that that that's that's 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:59.240 the the smaller independent leagues that are also scattered about 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.400 the country. But the main rival league is the Estencia 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:08.800 a Sesoria the Administration or the A. So they have 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.520 two big leagues and then some smaller independent like those 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:13.800 are the cool ones. I saw some videos and it 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:15.920 looks like the old school American Day's when they're in 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.960 front of like four thousand people in a gym, like 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:23.840 just flying around. They still do that in UM like 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.960 in Memphis, but it's not like four thousand people, it's 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:31.400 like forty yeah, at the Pyramid. And then Strickland also 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:34.840 told me about um No like West Memphis, Arkansas, like 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:39.760 in a like an basically covered alley. Gotcha, um there's 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:44.040 a play. There's this group called Chikara out of Philadelphia 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:48.600 and they've basically they do this absurdist Mexican wrestling. Strickland 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:51.360 told me about this um where like there's this guy 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:55.040 named ice Cream Jr. And his persona is like a 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.840 clown with like a little clown hat sacking out the 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:00.240 side of his head. His face is painted and his 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:04.080 secret weapon is a bag of sock filled with ice 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:07.720 cream sprinkles that like he'll throw it like his opponent 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:12.520 and it just burns him like acid. He'll he'll, you know. 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:15.960 There's this one great shot of it of him throwing 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.720 it on his opponent, the guy just writhing in pain, 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.000 and ice Cream Junior like put some more on the 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.360 mat and he goes to like drop the guy on it, 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:25.000 but the guy gets to drop on him and throws 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:27.640 ice Cream Junior down. He starts writhing like how my back. 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.160 It's really great. You have to see it. I'll send 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.800 it right now. Okay, Yeah, I find that remarkable. Yeah, 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.000 we should post that to our Facebook page, say we're 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:38.560 gonna do that. But it's um. It's it's the same thing. 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:42.280 It's just like in this fluorescent light gym with like 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:47.200 fifty or a hundred people and it's called kara. Yeah, 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:50.320 but that kind of combines Mexican wrestling with Japanese style 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:52.680 Mexican wrestling. Yeah, it's a big over there, right. It 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:55.440 is UM And there's been a couple of wrestlers that 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:58.000 have kind of taken it to the next level, Ultimo 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:02.360 Dragon and Tiger Mask. Tiger Mask. It's awesome. You know 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.600 what I think I have. I mean it's a tiger mask, 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:08.400 right yeah. Um, and these guys are like the I 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:12.800 guess Japanese stars of Mexican wrestling in Japan, so I 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:16.000 love it. You mentioned Lucha va Boom earlier. That is 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.280 a variation of Lucha Libra that's pretty popular right now 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:25.360 because it combines wrestling with burlesque, striped tease and stand 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:29.440 up comedy and not just stand up comedy, like um, 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:34.280 like girls spinning three hula hoops and one piece stuff 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:39.000 and like, um yeah, uh, just anything you can think of. Um, 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:41.320 that's just totally out there. And I think it's based 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:43.560 in Los Angeles. They should do that in the middle 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:47.360 of a roller derby ring. It's very I'm surprised that 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:49.200 they haven't. And if they haven't, and they listen to 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:52.000 podcast that they start doing and served tons of beer. 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.920 They they suggest to best watch it that you drink 0:16:55.920 --> 0:17:00.640 tequila shots. Seriously. I was watching this how to watch 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:04.080 um Lucha va Boom, and they were like, this is 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:06.760 the rudos, this is what you do for him boo, 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:08.840 and then this is the technic post and you cheer 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.440 for him, and then you you want to drink tequila shots, 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:13.040 but not so much that you throw up and get 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:16.120 up on the stage because that'll ruin it. Um. It's 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:19.399 pretty cool. But so Lucha va Boom is going to 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:23.480 be in Calgary, Edmonton. There is the tie that binds 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.639 this one with chem trails in case you ever come 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:30.919 across the questions all related um on January seven eight 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:35.240 at the Calgary High Performance Rodeo their headlining. If I 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.160 live in Calgary, I would go to that they should 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.399 bring this to Atlanta. Well, normally they have it in 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:42.639 l A at the Mayan Theater. Yeah, and Atlanta has 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:46.639 a you know, a large uh Latino population, so and 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:50.400 dudes like us, Yeah, that mix well with that crowd. Yes, 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.240 like like to do tequila shots, but not so much 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:57.160 that we throw up because that ruins it. Um. Let's 0:17:57.160 --> 0:18:01.440 talk about the wrestling, the rastling itself. Okay, uh, they 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:05.480 have many more weight classes than our American uh count 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:09.840 their American counterparts because it was originally based on boxing classes, 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:12.840 which is great because, like you said, the little light 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:16.640 guys can fly around and jump and do these awesome 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:19.800 aerial moves that you don't see as much anymore in 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:23.040 the US. UM. And one of those weights. I was like, 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:24.720 you know, I'm going to take this opportunity to look 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.560 up what the heck welter weight means. So it looked 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:31.160 up welter and welter itself means like wallo. It has 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:34.560 nothing to do with anything else. But if you look 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:38.720 up the entomology of welter weight, they think that it's 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:42.520 based on uh, the English word welt, which means to 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:46.480 beat severely. So I was like, okay, that's what welter weight. 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:51.280 It's the weight class where the people beat severely one another. Yeah, 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:53.720 pretty cool. Hundred seventy pounds by the way for the 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:56.280 welter weight. Yeah, you would think the heavy weights would 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:59.720 be welter weight then, yeah, because they inflicked more bruises. 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:03.800 I guess not. I guess not so, um, Chuck. There's 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:06.560 different kinds of matches you can have. You have like 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:11.520 single matches, boring. Yeah, those are not the most popular ones. Um, 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:14.400 but we need to go over the rules. They're there 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:17.200 for a purpose, so we have to tell them. Um, 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:20.000 there's four ways to win a single match. That's to 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.719 pin for three seconds, knock somebody out of the ring 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:26.560 for twenty seconds, to make your opponents submit, which you 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:30.560 don't tap in Mexican wrestling, you waver you say refereo 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:33.280 like I'm about to die here, I want to quit. 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:39.480 Or you can be disqualified. The other person can be disqualified. Yeah, 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:41.840 there's a few ways that can happen. If you take 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:46.480 off someone's mask, that is a disqualification unless the storyline 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:50.520 calls for it. Um. No weapons, so like you're not 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:54.440 gonna see any chair hitting going on. Okay, that's definitely different. 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:59.760 Uh No, groin shots. No. And you can't attack the 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:04.359 ref free Yeah, why would which makes sense, although you 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:06.320 know they do that some in American wrestling. Yeah, and 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:08.679 there's that one classic clip that was at the beginning 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:11.680 of Malcolm in the middle of that the referee getting 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:13.800 in front of a punch during that boxing manage and 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:17.840 just getting kote. Classic. Yeah. I'm also pile driver. You 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:21.400 you can't pile drive somebody, But like you said, like unmasking, 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:24.880 they'll sometimes do it anyway, even though you're gonna get disqualified. 0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:29.600 But they customarily the person who's pile drived. Pile driven 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:33.200 um is carried out on the stretcher to just make 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:35.119 sure all the kids know, like, don't do this at home. 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:37.959 It's very bad, which is pretty awesome. Yeah. Uh, they 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:41.000 do that in the States, like don't try this at 0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:44.480 home unless you're really tough, Like they inject steroids in 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:48.000 the middle of the ring in the States. So the 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:51.439 referee can also stop the the uh the brawl for 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:57.040 excessio de rhodesas, which is excessive punishment or violence, which 0:20:57.040 --> 0:21:01.440 is funny because it's saying like if you, uh excessively 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:04.159 beat your opponent, we're gonna go ahead and give you 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:09.000 the match. Oh you win? Yeah, Oh that's awesome. I 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:11.720 know it's like a well, it's like the referee stop 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:14.040 in a boxing match, I guess, or like a baseball game. 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:17.600 What does that rule? I don't know. There's some rule 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:19.440 where it's like the team's beating the other team by 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:23.000 like twelve points. Yeah, mercy rule. Yeah, if you're up 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:26.240 by like eleven after a certain ending, they'll cough it. 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:28.600 But it makes sense, I mean like humiliating that. It's 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:30.000 not like you're going to give the win to the 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:32.760 team that lost. Yeah, of course. Yeah, it's the same thing. 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:39.120 Although these days you never know kids this country these days, Uh, 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:42.280 like you said, the tag team matches are really where 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:46.400 it's at in Mexican wrestling, uh, and the most popular 0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:49.040 of the tag team or the three on three the 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:52.840 trios matches. Um. The goal there, if you're gonna win, 0:21:52.920 --> 0:21:55.639 is to either pin the captain or to pin both 0:21:55.840 --> 0:22:00.440 of the other two guys, right correct, Yeah, right though, 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:05.879 and uh there's two referees usually in those. And there 0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:09.480 are also four and four five on five and you 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:11.919 know it's it's a lot of action going on in 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:15.080 the four on four those called the Atomic Coast matches, 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:18.040 which is pretty cool. Yeah, like that, um, and then 0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:20.560 the five on five the whole like the only way 0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:23.040 to win is to pin the team captain apparently. Yeah. 0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:25.720 And another difference between that and American wrestling. When you 0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:27.840 have a tag team in American wrestling is you have 0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:31.359 to literally tag each other, whereas in Mexican wrestling and 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:34.399 lutal libre, if you're out of the ring, which either 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:37.520 thrown out or you can crawl out, then your other 0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:40.480 partner can get right on in there, which really speeds 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:43.440 things along and keeps it exciting. Yeah, as they say. 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:46.359 And if you want to know if you moves or 0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:48.399 if you'd like to hear the names and descriptions of 0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:52.280 a few moves. We get you covered there. Basically, if 0:22:52.280 --> 0:22:57.760 you understand what the plancha is, you understand Mexican wrestling. Okay, Basically, 0:22:57.760 --> 0:23:00.679 the plancha is where your opponent is flat on his 0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:04.040 back on the in the ring um and you're up 0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:05.679 on the ropes and you jump on him with your 0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:09.080 full body weight. Yeah. Then there's variations to the plantcha. 0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:13.120 There's the tornillo, which is a plancha in which the 0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:16.239 wrestler who's jumping off of the ropes twists in mid 0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:20.720 air for visual effect. Sure, there's the cent on, which 0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:22.879 is a planta in which the diving wrestler lands on 0:23:22.920 --> 0:23:26.200 his back on top of the other wrestler nice um. 0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:28.040 And then that's pretty much it. I mean there's a 0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:30.520 couple of others. You want to take this, Well, if 0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:32.199 you're gonna head butt someone, they're gonna call that a 0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:35.040 tope um. And these are just a few of the moves. 0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:37.600 I mean, there are tons and tons of moves, and 0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:41.960 they're done in various combinations according to your personal flare. 0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:44.960 And they're all plant a rooted, are they No? Not 0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:47.240 all of them. There's plenty of plant of rooted moves. 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:50.480 That's awesome. Cool leg twist where the guy would be 0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:52.600 on his back and get a dude like in a 0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:55.280 scissor hold with his legs and then do like this 0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:58.080 little break dance spin move to flip the guy over. 0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:03.120 There's there's a lot like the hurrican rana. What's up? Well, 0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:06.479 the rna is the position where so the wrestler holds 0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:11.200 the opponent's shoulders down with his knees and then hooks 0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:15.320 his legs with his arms, right yeah, and if you 0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:19.000 start that out with um a flying head scissor, you're 0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:24.560 doing the hurricane rana awesome as as popularized by Hurricane 0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:29.960 ra Miras Oh that was his name. Makes sense? Yeah? Uh? 0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:33.840