1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: with Recent Choice Media. 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 2: Welcome home you guys. 4 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: So for this mini pod, we actually talk about a 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: question you guys ask all the time, and that is 6 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: why do you guys call yourselves? Native Land Pod? We 7 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: actually get into that on our very first show, So 8 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: take a listen and we talk about why we started 9 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: this podcast in the first place. So I hope you 10 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: enjoyed this episode, and don't forget we have a New 11 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: Year's Eve episode dropping this Thursday, so be sure to 12 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: tune into that. We'll see you in twenty twenty five. 13 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 3: Hey, able to Chris Flow this video submission for y'all. 14 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: Question for y'all, I'll keep it short. Where did you 15 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: get the name Native Land Podcast? 16 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 4: What does it mean to be native to you? We 17 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 4: could have chosen from any number of names, numbers, themes 18 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 4: out there. Tell me in your own opinion why native 19 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 4: Land as the as a theme and the topic and 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 4: the show. 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: Well, I thank y'all know I don't like to do 22 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 3: anything shallow, so for me, this has a really deep meaning. 23 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 3: When I thought of Native Land, I thought about James 24 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 3: Weldon Johnson and the Black National anthem. And the fact 25 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 3: that I will never stand for another national anthem, but 26 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: in that black national anthem, and the last stands in 27 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: the third verse, it says true to our God, true 28 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: to our native land. When I think about you all 29 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: as my friends, my brother, my sister. 30 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: Truth tellers, I deeply respect. 31 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: True to our native land means we can pay homage 32 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: to the ancestors who were kidnapped from our native land, 33 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 3: and we're brought here to build something that we still 34 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: have yet to truly benefit from, and we still stand 35 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: on Native land paying homage to the indigenous folks who 36 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: built this place, who welcome people in, who didn't necessarily 37 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: treat them with kindness. That's an understatement, but that's what 38 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 3: I think of. There's a double entendre there, and to me, 39 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: it makes me think of that James Baldwin moment when 40 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: he talks about what we're all patriotism is. Because we 41 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: are patriots, we have every right to question every single 42 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: aspect of our native land. 43 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: It's interesting Angela says that because when she first told 44 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: me the title to get my opinion about it, I 45 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: took a different perspective in that we are creating a 46 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: native land because no matter how they make us feel. 47 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: This is our home, and I know my entire career 48 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: I have felt homeless, like the news media has always 49 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: made me feel grossly unwelcome or displaced, you know, in 50 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: a space that if I were ever speaking a truth 51 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: or speaking to the rising majority of this country, it 52 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 1: was taken as controversial or as something subpar. And even 53 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: what we consider biased or unbiased is all based on 54 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: what's rooted in white and male. And so this podcast 55 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: is a native land for people to come. You have 56 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: a home here, no matter what you look like, no 57 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: matter where you come from. Here we create space for 58 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: you and everybody's welcome. 59 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 4: Love that. You know, all of us have had our 60 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 4: work experience on major platforms, you know, names that will 61 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 4: be recognized around around the globe, and even in those spaces, 62 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 4: while we were invited to offer our opinions and perspectives 63 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 4: and analysis, always felt in many ways curated. Even still, 64 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 4: it was curated by the wrap it up, It was 65 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 4: curated by the fifteen seconds. It was curated by you know, 66 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 4: you're the progressive on the panel, and so bring that perspective, 67 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 4: even if the topic may have been more nuanced than 68 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 4: one of a political ideology a perspective, and so you 69 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 4: know the title, the theme, the titling of the show. 70 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 4: Native Land, to me is less about a physical edifice 71 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: and more like translating these airwaves, translating the way in 72 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 4: which we're communicating to our audience and then back to 73 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 4: us as a space that doesn't have to be validated, 74 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 4: that doesn't need anybody sign off that it is ours. 75 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 4: It's our quest, you know, our desire to move toward 76 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 4: the more perfect how we define it. I'm excited by 77 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 4: the the idea of native Land by one yes, paying 78 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 4: homage if we were to think about it in the 79 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 4: physical to uh, to the lands that we set on, 80 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 4: that were rob that we're taken, that were brutally stolen, 81 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 4: but also a reclamation of this space as ours, not 82 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 4: belonging to anyone else, not being curated by anyone else 83 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 4: other than ourselves, true to our beliefs, our ideals, and 84 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 4: frankly welcoming to people who are just like us out there, 85 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 4: you know, scavenging through, just trying to make it, have opinions, 86 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 4: not experts at everything, but offering up what they believe 87 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 4: and guess what if it's it's their lived experience and 88 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 4: their truth it deserves some platform for airing, and I 89 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 4: look forward to us being able to do that on 90 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 4: this platform. 91 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:12,799 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, welcome home. What you said made me think 92 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: about the current existing landscape of news media, and I'm 93 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: curious to hear from my co host here in your opinion, Andrew, 94 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: who is the mainstream media made for? 95 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 4: Uh? Well, I mean, if we if we were to 96 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 4: just assess, you know, the mainstream media by its approach 97 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 4: to most things, complicated issues to the simple, I think 98 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 4: it's theater and large part, I think it plays a 99 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 4: lot of times to consumerism. I think the bottom line 100 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 4: matters there more than anyone ever says. And and by 101 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 4: and large, I think it plays to fright a majority. 102 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 4: It causes a lot of angst. I mean, when I'm 103 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 4: at family, it's funny. We were all together for Thanksgiving 104 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 4: my family, and almost to a person, people are like, 105 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 4: I don't even want to turn on the news anymore. 106 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 4: I know there's nothing good there. And I just found 107 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 4: it interesting having been part of that community before, of 108 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 4: communicating to people over airwaves, it just struck me that 109 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 4: to a person, people found their peace and their solace, 110 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 4: their joy, and their happiness away from hearing from mainstream news. 111 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 4: So what kind of news could you be if you 112 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 4: repel otherwise decent, caring, you know, thoughtful people, and that 113 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 4: their escape defying peace in their lives or joy in 114 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 4: their lives is to not pay attention to the news. 115 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 4: That's a sad state of affairs when we think about it. 116 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 4: But if that's the experience of every person to a person, 117 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 4: you gotta believe that it's not accidental that the news 118 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 4: is being communicated to us in that way. 119 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: And they're definitely not accidental. I can say that I'm 120 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: one of them, Like I cannot watch. 121 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: The news regularly. Cable news programming is just too much. 122 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 3: I got some of my friends shout out the joy. 123 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 4: You know, who will watch the point We still watch. 124 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 3: But I am I can't watch a lot of it. 125 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 3: It is repulsive. It is frustrating when I think about 126 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: many of the segments that we were on, you know, 127 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 3: like we're set up for Mortal Kombat and it's exhausting, 128 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: and so then you're supposed to go home and be 129 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: your partner's piece and be and it's just really hard. 130 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: So what I think about who the news is made for. 131 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: I think about, you know, folks who have a hard 132 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: time developing their own opinion and are easily taken advantage of, 133 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 3: easily manipulated. It's almost like the same folks who watch 134 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 3: QVC commercial, right, you know what I mean, Like they 135 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 3: can package it in any way and sell it to you, 136 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 3: you know, tell you, tell you it's raining, and they're 137 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: pissing on you, like it really is. It's just too 138 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: much and it's exhausting to watch. Like I get the 139 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: same feeling watching the news tip that I did when 140 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 3: I used to like consume love and hip hop or basketball, 141 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 3: wives and no shade to some of all my friends. 142 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: But I watched one day, I did like a marathon chaw. 143 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 4: I got it. 144 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: I said, well, I feel dirty. Wow, it's the same 145 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: way I feel watching any cable news. 146 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: Doesn't matter for it's progressive, midstream or or a conservative, 147 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 3: it really doesn't matter. 148 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 4: It's the wind up machine. 149 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, mat, I think you feel that way because 150 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: it is a new, a different version of reality TV. 151 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: Except it is not our reality. So I think the news. 152 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: I'll just go one step further and say the news 153 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: is made for the comfort of white people. That is 154 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: who is centered, that is the audience they want to 155 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: curate your average cable news viewers between sixty two and 156 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: sixty five, and white and male. And so when programmers 157 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: look at what the content for that day, that is 158 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: who they're talking to, which is baffling to me because 159 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: you are speaking to a shrinking demographic and completely ignoring 160 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: a growing demographic. We are the rising majority of this country, 161 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: and yet when we show up on air to speak 162 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: an honest truth in ways how we communicate, it is 163 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: not accepted. It's considered controversial until the white boy says 164 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: it's okay to do so. If we speak in our vernacular, 165 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: when we use the way that we talk, it is 166 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: not okay until the white boy does it, and then 167 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: it's fun. We can't quote quote rap lyrics, but they can't. 168 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: We can't talk. 169 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: About what happens in our life. I'm talking to the truth. 170 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: We say we go to be the truth. On this podcast, 171 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: I'm speaking truth. We cannot talk about make references. You know, 172 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: if I say something that is something that we all understand, right, 173 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: a colloquial reference that is specific to our community, it's 174 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: not okay, And I would always have to say, well. 175 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: If you don't get it, it ain't for you, right. 176 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: The same way, I don't always get your country music 177 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: reference or your role and tide reference. That ain't for me. 178 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: I should get to talk to the rise and majority 179 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: of this country and make them feel seen. And so 180 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: obviously I have a personal testimony sure that I for 181 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: sure know it doesn't matter what the cable news executive 182 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: looks like. The position they are there to uphold is 183 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: that is the comfort of life. 184 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's the matrix, right, just insert whomever. Yes, 185 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 4: but the system is programmed to operate a particular way 186 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 4: and produce a particular result. And this is why I 187 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 4: think we have to be really careful when we start 188 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 4: lifting up and edifying sort of these individuals as first 189 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 4: and the like. And I get the symbolic reference, and 190 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 4: it does make me symbolically, you know, proud to have 191 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 4: someone exhibited that my daughter or my son or I 192 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 4: myself might be able to see. But then we have 193 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 4: to go layers deep to understand, like, Okay, are you 194 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 4: a disruptor? In what way are you changing this thing 195 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 4: so that we're we're not character. 196 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: The problem is systemic, for sure, and that is a difference, 197 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: right fitting a black face that is going to carry 198 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: the voices of white folks doesn't do anything for the community. 199 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 4: Or continue to marginalize, you know, communities that have previously 200 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 4: been violated, have been put in boxes, have been reduced 201 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 4: to nothingness. If if your existence here is only to 202 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 4: perpetuate that, not to disrupt it, not to break it 203 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 4: so it can forever be broken, but to rather, you know, 204 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 4: continue to expand the bottom line and make you know, 205 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 4: those nice cus you know, because she suits happy, then 206 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 4: you're not a service. You're useless, You're not a service. 207 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 3: But you know where we are going to be a 208 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 3: services right here. And that's one of the reasons why 209 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: why I'm excited about this podcast. I want to know 210 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: tip from you first, why are you excited about this podcast? 211 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: I'm excited about this podcast because I get to do 212 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: this with my friends who I've known a long time. 213 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: People think we met in media. We did not known 214 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: each other long before we were doing it in front 215 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: of a camera exactly. So it's really nice to show 216 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: up here and one be in a space where we 217 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: feel welcomed. Two, I'm excited about this because our words 218 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: and our truth will not be policed. I was exhausted 219 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: with having my words policed or having the fight even 220 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: to talk, you know, to talk about issues that were 221 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: significant to so to millions of people across this country, 222 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: and having to defend and define my humanity every week. 223 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: It's so relaxing to show up in a place where 224 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: I don't have to do either of those things. We 225 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: can skip past all that and just get to conversations 226 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: of substance, but also to keep it abuck, conversations of 227 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: some foolishness too. You know, we have a good time 228 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: with each other. So yeah, I'm most excited about that. 229 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 4: And all of that could exist, like in one place. 230 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 4: I hate this idea that if the world out there 231 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 4: is serious, that the only thing you can bring back 232 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 4: to the world is serious. 233 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: Right, we'll find joy. 234 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 4: And it's not a reduction to the fact that there 235 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 4: are real, serious, consequential things going on. But my goodness, 236 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 4: we come from generations of folks who had to find 237 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 4: joy in the smallest of places because the world wasn't 238 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 4: offering it to them. There. Every day was torture us, 239 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 4: it was labor, it was work. There were no days off. 240 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 4: Even your faith was curated to you, right, it was 241 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 4: brought to you by sponsored by massa in them, right, 242 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 4: And so folks had define moments where you could appreciate 243 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 4: being alive and around the people you know, who you love, 244 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 4: the fact that you are whole folks, You're not just 245 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 4: an employee of somebody. If I'm bringing it to current day, 246 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 4: were nobody's employee, were nobody's employer, or exclusively, we're mothers, 247 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 4: we're fathers, we're brothers, siblings, where niece's nephews, so on 248 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 4: and so forth, and that's okay. And in each of 249 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 4: those places we bring a different side, a different side 250 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 4: of ourselves are allowed to live and breathe. And I'm 251 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 4: hopeful that I'm excited that we don't have to check 252 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 4: any part of who we are at the door, uh 253 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 4: before we walk in and take these mics, that we 254 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 4: can show up fully, that I don't have to apologize 255 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 4: for any part of myself and in and in and 256 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 4: in life, if we really are in pursuit of, you know, 257 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 4: true liberation, that's exactly how it ought to go. We 258 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 4: shouldn't have to look over our shoulder and apologize and 259 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 4: make excuse for lament or feel the weight of imposter 260 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 4: syndrome when you're when you're home. And so we're creating 261 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 4: a different kind of home and hopefully moving people closer 262 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 4: toward this, you know, this way of thinking, rather than 263 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 4: this very myopic way in which the world right now 264 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 4: requires us to exist. 265 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 3: I'm excited because you all agreed to do this. I'm 266 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 3: excited because I know from walking with y'all down the 267 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 3: street how much your voices mean to our peace people 268 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 3: and to a lot of folks who don't look like 269 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 3: us but just felt resonance with you because of your authenticity. 270 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: So I'm very grateful. 271 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 3: I think my excitement is to couple with gratitude because 272 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 3: I know that there is a space for this in 273 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 3: the hearts and minds of so many, including my own, 274 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 3: and I look forward to ever refreshing, authentic political conversation 275 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 3: where we can chop it up legitimately, not because we're 276 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: trying to go viral, but because we really are trying 277 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 3: to solve some of the toughest problems. And y'all have 278 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: always been that way, So thank you for being problem 279 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 3: solvers and being willing to do it on the record 280 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: on air as a native land. 281 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: Native Land Pod is a production of iHeart Radio in 282 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: partnership with Reason Choice Media. For more podcasts from my 283 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: Heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever 284 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: you listen to your favorite shows.