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Speaker 1: R and B Money.

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Speaker 2: Thanks take Valentiny.

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Speaker 3: We are big authority on ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jay Valentine and this is the R and B

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Speaker 1: Money Podcast, And today I got the homie. I'll be listen.

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Speaker 1: He'll tell you later on. I'll just be pulling up

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Speaker 1: on him. He trying to do his little walks in

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Speaker 1: the park, which probably can and I'd be like, he'd

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Speaker 1: be dunking and everything. But you know, and listen, he

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Speaker 1: is a comedian, he's an actor. Man a nigga on Tooby.

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Speaker 1: I finally met somebody that's actually on Toby, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna call it right now. I think he the next

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Speaker 1: in line to own the biggest gospel, secular, all cool

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Speaker 1: stuff major motion Picture studio.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get to it.

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Speaker 1: He'd be selling out shows, actually, the first person I

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Speaker 1: ever met who sells out a church cave on stage.

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Speaker 1: Just see today, y'all. Bang bang bang, let's let's let's

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Speaker 1: let's start there. Nigga, how you sell out a church?

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Speaker 1: Just that a thing? It is a thing. It is

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Speaker 1: a thing. You know, you know the business. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that business.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know the music business. You know you

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Speaker 4: you know It's interesting because I started in churches. Just

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Speaker 4: like the first time I ever did stand up it

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Speaker 4: was a talent show at my church. It was like

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Speaker 4: a PYPU thing. It was like young people's thing PYPU.

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Speaker 1: It was like all I know is listen please Starmy

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Speaker 1: Money podcast.

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Speaker 3: I know the pretty young things.

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Speaker 1: That what the Costal Youth Pentecostal Youth People's Union or

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Speaker 1: something like.

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Speaker 3: You don't even know either.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you used that for but it

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Speaker 4: was like the team, so you know, most people singing,

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Speaker 4: you know, playing instrument. And my brother was like, you

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Speaker 4: should do stand up keV, and I was like I should.

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Speaker 4: He was like this girl who goes our church, don't

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Speaker 4: think you're funny, And that put like a battery in

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Speaker 4: my back. Turned out he was lying. I talked to

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Speaker 4: the girl like four years ago. She was like, I

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Speaker 4: wouldnt even know if you're funny. I would never say right.

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Speaker 4: But I did that, you know, when I was sixteen,

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Speaker 4: and I got bit by the bug, you know immediately.

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Speaker 4: But that's not why did churches. When I started. When

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Speaker 4: I went on tour in twenty by my actually I

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Speaker 4: mean back up, I was doing the tour with other

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Speaker 4: Christian comedians, three or four other people, Carlton Banks, Anna Douglas,

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Speaker 4: Christie show. And the promoter was booking us in churches.

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Speaker 4: And I had a life changing moment because I up

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Speaker 4: until then I had been booking churches by myself or

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Speaker 4: with my brother and aunt. We would do comedy shows

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Speaker 4: in churches. They bring us in, pay us some little

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Speaker 4: money or give us an offering and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: What is the church in little money thing?

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Speaker 4: Brother Jame, I promise you Brobbing paid in so much fruit,

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Speaker 4: so many baskets of fruit, bananas, so.

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Speaker 1: They really take this fruits and lay serious.

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Speaker 3: Jay, we appreciate you brother.

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Speaker 4: The biggest cell of fane, bad bag of easter basket

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Speaker 4: type stuff.

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Speaker 3: You know, I would flip that off, you know what.

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Speaker 1: Pissed? I done poured my heart and soul out. And

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Speaker 1: then sometimes they're raising often for us.

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Speaker 4: We split me Jay and Aunt was split three ways,

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Speaker 4: could be like eighty four bucks. And we done drove

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Speaker 4: from Dallas to a church in Oklahoma or Tulsa to

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Speaker 4: split three eighty four bucks three ways. Like that's what

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Speaker 4: our wives were like.

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Speaker 1: Hey, brothers, Melissa is married to you.

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Speaker 4: She married to me. Oh we Jay, I done gave

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Speaker 4: her a good amount of times to bail.

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Speaker 1: By the gress of God, she's still here. She's right here.

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Speaker 1: I done gave her some times. Jane, I'll give you

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Speaker 1: one real quick.

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Speaker 4: I used to work at the bank, right, me and

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Speaker 4: my brother and my boy aunt was like, we gonna

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Speaker 4: make it to Carris Johnson, who was a big and playwork.

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Speaker 4: Carris Johnson was hope, but he was definitely figure this out.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you why I was dumb and poor and broke,

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Speaker 4: because we had it in our mind we was gonna

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Speaker 4: meet ja Carrius Johnson. Okay, he was hosting like he

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Speaker 4: was opening the play in Miami, and he had like

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Speaker 4: a dinner fundraising dinner. They were celebrating him. It wasn't

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Speaker 4: even his dinner, they were some people were celebrating him.

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Speaker 4: Five hundred dollars plate. Right, We like, we got to

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Speaker 4: go and shake your Carriage Johnson's hand. He gonna change

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Speaker 4: our life. We buy three plane tickets from Washington, pay

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Speaker 4: the five hundred each, rent a Volkswagen Beagle, Volkswagen Beetle

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Speaker 4: the little.

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Speaker 1: Green Lime Green Joint in Miami.

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Speaker 3: Lost.

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Speaker 4: We go to a corner store trying to find the

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Speaker 4: place the police are like, you were going to get killed.

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Speaker 4: You need to know where you're going quickly. I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: show you where you're going because you're not in the

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Speaker 4: right part of Miami to get lost. We had a

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Speaker 4: corner store asking for directions.

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Speaker 3: They like, y'all was in the porking bean project.

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Speaker 4: Bruh in a lime green beetle, and the police are like.

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Speaker 1: I want to rob you. You You guys stick out

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Speaker 1: in full church clothes. If I saw you on a

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Speaker 1: lime green budle, I would think to myself, it's not

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Speaker 1: worth it. We look so no, but I'm saying ye anything,

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Speaker 1: Oh for sure. Three niggas in a beatle for practice.

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Speaker 1: I'm just wasting the Yeah. So anyway we find our

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Speaker 4: Mind you, we put credit we put the plane ticket,

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Speaker 4: the hotel, the rental card, the five hundred dollars plate

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Speaker 4: on the credit card that we take out. We get

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Speaker 4: in there, We're like, we got to meet Jacaris Johnson Jay.

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Speaker 4: We go to the thing. They do a little play.

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Speaker 4: It's amazing. It's over. Jakis Johnson walks by, shakes our

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Speaker 4: hand and keeps walking. We didn't have no plan passing.

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Speaker 1: No't know they're supposed to change our life. He just

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Speaker 1: shakes our hand very nice. He's like nice to beat y'all, brother,

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Speaker 1: I'm gone. We were like Nigga. We didn't have no

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Speaker 1: plan behind shaking his hand. We don't have no way

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Speaker 4: So we did things like that and ran up a

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Speaker 4: fifteen thousand dollars credit card bill buying at that time,

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Speaker 4: to take debit cards you got to buy a phone

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Speaker 4: terminal and plug your merch line into a phone jack.

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Speaker 4: So we spent five hundred dollars on that. We sold

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Speaker 4: probably twenty eight dollars worth of shirts in three We

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Speaker 1: The terminal because people ain't gonna be carrying cash all

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Speaker 4: Fifteen thousand dollars, Yeah, it makes it makes sense, But

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Speaker 4: the nigga we don't selling enough. It don't make that

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Speaker 4: much sense. We carry that credit card bounce for like

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Speaker 4: seven years. We used to meet in the parking lot

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Speaker 4: of a Bank America once a month to all turn

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Speaker 4: in our eighty bucks to pay the minimum on this

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Speaker 4: credit card. For seven years, we didn't pay that off

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Speaker 4: until Tracy Edmonds gave us fifty thousand dollars to move

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Speaker 4: to La. The first thing we did is pay that

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Speaker 4: credit card off. Our wives were like, finally we carried

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Speaker 4: that for seven years, ran that up and like maybe

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Speaker 4: six months if even that.

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Speaker 3: What did y'all sell to Tracy A kidney? No, I mean.

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Speaker 1: You just you jumped to me. So it was fifty She.

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Speaker 4: Gave us fifty grand to make ten playmaker's YouTube videos

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Speaker 4: at the time, which changed our life. Eternally grateful to

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Speaker 4: Tracy Edmonds because that amount of money we shot in

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Speaker 4: editing and directed everything. I edited the videos and paid

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Speaker 4: our debt and paid our debt and moved down to La.

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Speaker 1: All off to fifty fifty gone. By the way we

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Speaker 1: wore the summers out.

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Speaker 4: You can't spay fifty three a's with three different families

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Speaker 4: and no jobs among the city.

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Speaker 1: Miss Melissa stayed. She still stayed. Yeah, she stayed when

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Speaker 1: a lot of people would have laughed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this sounds like R and.

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Speaker 1: B brother if she would have left. Every time I

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Speaker 1: tell the story, people be like, you was married so.

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Speaker 3: Many women with broke singers. She was with me broke

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Speaker 3: for a long time.

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Speaker 1: It's something about walking in the studio and this broke

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Speaker 1: singer walks in with a really pretty girl, and you like,

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Speaker 1: she she just she don't know that was her.

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Speaker 3: Melissa knew though, but she knew she.

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Speaker 4: Hadn't know something.

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Speaker 1: She knew something. You had to know something. These girls

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Speaker 1: be knowing. No, I think they like, yeah, maybe that

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Speaker 1: sounds good. Listen, bro, I've been a music bit.

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Speaker 3: It's a long time.

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Speaker 1: I've seen it, and I've seen that same girl come

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Speaker 1: to the studio with maybe three or four other You know,

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Speaker 1: do we not talking about that? We take it out.

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Speaker 4: We're getting out the time, you know. But yeah, So

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Speaker 4: so I started in church meet Jane at used to

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Speaker 4: perform in churches. When I started popping a little bit,

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Speaker 4: churches used to bring me out. So I had all

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Speaker 4: these relationships, so it was time to go on tour.

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Speaker 4: I didn't have no manager, no agent. So at that

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Speaker 4: time and really still today, without a booking agent or

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Speaker 4: It's impossible, like they purposely don't want people just calling

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Speaker 4: and trying to look. So it seemed impossible for me.

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Speaker 4: So I used to I use this website called unique

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Speaker 4: venues dot com.

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Speaker 1: Come on, give them the game. Yeah, unique Venues.

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Speaker 4: Dot com and I used to put out on social media. Yo,

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Speaker 4: it's Kevin on stage. I want to go on tour.

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Speaker 4: If you're a church that seats over three hundred people,

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Speaker 4: here's my email. I want to come bring a show

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Speaker 4: to your to your church. And because people knew me,

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Speaker 4: they'd be like, yeah, And churches are not like they're

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Speaker 4: not in the location business in the way that like

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Speaker 4: Live Nation is not. Now some are getting in now. Okay,

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Speaker 4: some are getting in, but most of them are like,

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Speaker 4: as long as it's clean, people can come. It's reasonably priced,

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Speaker 4: we'll we'll rent it to you or do a ticket

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Speaker 4: split with you. And that's what we did. You know,

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Speaker 4: I booked the tour myself. Matter of fact, the tour

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Speaker 4: I did last year, I booked myself.

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Speaker 1: So how do you turn people away from the church? Well,

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Speaker 1: on the church and store it's always supposed to.

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Speaker 4: Be open, not tonight until Sunday morning.

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Speaker 1: Y'all could come tonight.

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Speaker 4: I need that thirty that fifty up out you. I

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Speaker 4: need that event Bright QR. Cold Brother tomorrow when they

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Speaker 4: come preach.

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Speaker 3: Of course, the Lord, the Lord Friday night kept on stage.

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Speaker 1: Here turning people away from the Lawyer's House fifty dollars.

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Speaker 1: You can come in for the fifty discount for your members.

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Speaker 1: I'll give y'all special event. You know, a little QR cold,

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Speaker 1: a little bitley, y'all members. If we got security at

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Speaker 1: the dome too, and in touches, they got the blicky

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Speaker 1: on this side of their hip, I'll kill you. You're

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Speaker 1: trying to get in here, man now Sunday morning, Jesus Rose,

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Speaker 1: Jesus Row. All right, we're gonna breaking together because I'm

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Speaker 1: trying not to get struck down. I'm trying not to

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Speaker 1: get struck down by this brother. If I stick to

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Speaker 1: just sitting next to him, let's start to begetting all right.

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Speaker 1: El passo, Yeah, Chicago, Seattle, Nigga. I don't know where

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Speaker 1: you're from.

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Speaker 3: Where are you from?

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Speaker 1: Bro?

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Speaker 5: So?

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Speaker 4: Part of the reason it's so confusing because I'm a

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Speaker 1: Okay. Perfect.

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Speaker 4: So you got three four duty stations that you lived

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Speaker 4: what do you mean?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 4: I was born in a past on nineteen eighty three.

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Speaker 4: I lived there from eighty three to ninety three. Okay,

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Speaker 4: first ten years, so you don't really got no hood.

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Speaker 1: I'm just out here. I moved to Virginia, North Carolina

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Andrews. Air Force say alex good, Yeah, Alexandra, Virginia, Texas, yeah, Andrew.

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Speaker 4: Then I moved to Washington. That's where I met Melissa.

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Speaker 4: Started dating her in eleventh grade and never broke up

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, this is awesome.

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Speaker 3: You know you my girl.

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Speaker 1: She was like, what are you not your girl? I

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Speaker 3: It was cool? C bro, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So let me tell you how to get clarity. Shout

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Speaker 4: We used to hoop together. I used to share clothes.

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Speaker 4: We's in different grades.

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Speaker 1: Let me get the chap shirt. All right, you weren't

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Speaker 3: Like, that's my dog.

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Speaker 4: So me and her and him walking home because they

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Speaker 1: So Tony's like, come on, list man, why don't you

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Speaker 1: be with cav Man. You know what I'm saying, y'all

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Speaker 1: be together? Man?

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Speaker 4: You know he like you kild you not Jay. She

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Speaker 1: Are you happy?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 4: Throws my hand down and I'm like, so you're telling

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Speaker 4: two thousand, we have never broken up. It's now Jude

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Speaker 4: or no, it's what March twenty twenty six, twenty six years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got together on a fine Tony, A fine finey.

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Speaker 4: Are you okay? Yes, Gina, I will marry you. It

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Speaker 3: Would shut up.

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Speaker 1: I took it. Jay, it's a clear yes. I can

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Speaker 4: But I feel like I can now and yeah, and

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Speaker 4: we get married, we get the good financial aid.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I got my own apartment. Now, I'm like, girl, we

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Speaker 2: Yes, you can.

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Speaker 4: You can qualify for the married people's housing. Nobody even

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Speaker 4: be in there. We get the good stuff, we can

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Speaker 4: the school. University of Washington in Seattle. We both got

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Speaker 4: That was two thousand and four, and we were together

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Speaker 4: Pastor fous Man.

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Speaker 3: That's real, that's real.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people don't even know what the whole Chicago thing was,

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Speaker 4: But Ai now says I'm from Waukegan.

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Speaker 4: But Chicago people really rock with me because I really

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Speaker 1: So I'm about to just mess up all your Chicago

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Speaker 3: Love R and B music, and I want to get

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Speaker 3: to what what is it with you and R and

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Speaker 1: Bro? Come on, I just want to know.

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Speaker 3: Come on, just came on stage, all this comedy, all this.

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Speaker 3: You know I was married. I don't only know my wife.

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Speaker 3: It's school, It's cool.

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Speaker 1: Kis Sweat Day. Come on, man, I can't have you

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Speaker 1: on this show without bringing up Keith Sweat. That you

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Speaker 1: started a frenzy about Keith Sweat, A debate, A debate

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Speaker 1: I don't listen. Five hits, Yes, so let me explain. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say a name. Courtney B is the

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Speaker 1: Tony Baker at Nick Cannoner on Nick Kens. We're playing

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Speaker 4: Yes, we chopping it up, and we get to talk

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Speaker 4: like billboard hits or just hits in the hood, right.

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Speaker 3: And Courtney B.

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Speaker 4: Courtney B says, Courtney B says, Keith Sweat ain't got five.

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Speaker 3: Hits talking about you know, your husband and snitch.

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Speaker 1: No, no, absolutely, I'm not from the streets, your honor,

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Speaker 1: it was Courtney. She's right there, I don't. I'm not

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Speaker 1: I am a tax pay American. They were robbing, sir,

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Speaker 4: Courtney B is the person who was like, Keithweat ain't

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Speaker 4: And to make it fair to her, I didn't say

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, no, I'm gonna say that almost cause

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Speaker 4: Keith sweating like that, like what which what?

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Speaker 1: Keif didn't like? So I go on Line'm sorry, Courtney,

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Speaker 1: I love I grew up on Keith.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I was.

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Speaker 4: I was like, girl, I'm blowing up your spot because

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm trying to prove my point. I'm like, suious

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Speaker 1: and closer to the world. So y'all know it's her,

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Speaker 1: It ain't me, you know, what I'm saying, so it

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Speaker 1: gotta putting the trick bag, like seriously to the point

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Speaker 1: I'm on the phone with Keith.

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Speaker 3: I told him, don't hurt you.

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Speaker 1: What I told him, what do you mean keep against

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Speaker 1: hi man? I said, he good church dude, man, But

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Speaker 1: I do know what he jogged.

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Speaker 3: Told him?

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Speaker 1: Start him out, Keith.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling the crazy thing is I was defending him.

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Speaker 3: She was crazy.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, fun Keith Swain, I ain't

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Speaker 1: got no five hits, nigga? What my first album got

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Speaker 1: molting five keep I know, which is literally what everybody saying.

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Speaker 4: I know everybody in the comments was like Nigga his

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Speaker 4: with a cane.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You a little nigga who said the sweater and got fired. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: take his knees out.

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Speaker 3: The funny part is Alta.

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Speaker 1: Do you do you remember when I saw you at

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Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, you the nigga niggas, we ain't got

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Speaker 1: What you're doing though is really cool, right because you're

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Speaker 3: They just don't have no malice behind them, man.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, yes, maybe he doesn't agree right, not

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Speaker 1: I felt like you were being malicious or like, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's just trying to talk crazy about.

441
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,479
Speaker 4: I try to do comedy that and the black community

442
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 4: is really good about this. Will allow a love tap

443
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,160
Speaker 4: if we feel like you being fair, right. I don't

444
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,360
Speaker 4: ever want to feel like if I run into somebody,

445
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,920
Speaker 4: it's gonna be beef for real. Like you talk about

446
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,360
Speaker 4: BT Awards, you know, when Kevin Hart hosting or Monique's

447
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 4: hosting or Jamie's hosting, they taking jabs at people, and

448
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 4: you know it's a like joke, a love tap from

449
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 4: love and in the black community. We know the comedians

450
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 4: can get away with, but it's got to feel like

451
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 4: you love us though, and you with us. Yeah, and

452
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,479
Speaker 4: you can get a joke off for too. It's all

453
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,119
Speaker 4: ha ha haa. But don't talk crazy, right, And that's

454
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 4: why my thing. I would never just be like straight

455
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 4: up disrespectful to black people. Now, and it's white people

456
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 4: trying to encroach, it might be a little more disrespect.

457
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,679
Speaker 3: I don't know how I feel about the Jermaine Jackson

458
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 3: thing now.

459
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

460
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you would have a little far, you would a

461
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,400
Speaker 3: little far that you would a little far, but tj though.

462
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Speaker 4: But I feel like I got to get through the

463
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 4: jermane like he's not hearing us.

464
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 3: Jermaine is Jermaine, Okay, Jermaine is royalty. But Jamaine tried

465
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 3: a lot. Listen, I said that Jermaine is royalty. Listen.

466
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: We got in entertainment. We got two royal families in

467
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: the entertainment industry, the Jackson's and the Wayans. Yes, yes,

468
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 1: it's some other ones that's close, but those two, for sure,

469
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking about as families.

470
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 3: For sure, they are royal families.

471
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 4: But think about this, Okay, to that point I'm coming up.

472
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 4: In Comic View Depth Comedy Jam Time, Michael Jackson was

473
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,679
Speaker 4: thirty five forty percent of the jokes. Okay, coming up,

474
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 4: we know we love. Some of my favorite jokes were

475
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 4: about Michael Jackson.

476
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 1: Jermaine ain't about to play with you like okay, okay,

477
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 1: because if he jump out, it wasn't in Rose Races.

478
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 7: He being.

479
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes I do take the risk. That's the thing about

480
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: a comedian. Sometimes you got.

481
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 4: I told my wife this, it's about being loyal to

482
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 4: the joke. If Jermaine don't rock with me, I understand

483
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 4: if your Maine like no nigga cares trash, I feel that, Jama,

484
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 4: I feel you Jermaine. And I got to take that

485
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 4: risk because I got to say what's out my heart?

486
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 3: Was it a little more personal because you can't. You

487
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 3: can't whip you.

488
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,919
Speaker 4: Up one thousand, you know, thousand percent unpacked this one thousand.

489
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 3: He lied on the side. That's truth here, there's truth here.

490
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: And I seen Jermaine one time at the Woodland here

491
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: in Woodland Hills, and I said, I ain't say nothing.

492
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 3: You just didn't like that. He called it an afro,

493
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 3: but he lying, that's my thing.

494
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 1: J Jack.

495
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 3: I'm lying now, Oh you gave him a nickname Jack.

496
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: You don't know Jamaine like that. Bro can give me too,

497
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: cause I don't know Jay Jack. But he has just

498
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 1: been like you know what I'm saying, I got my

499
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 1: it is what it is. We understand because like when

500
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: you see people with Beijing, it's like, brother, we all

501
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: know you're lying. You're lying, so you gotta just not

502
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 1: say nothing. But you're talking about I'm rapping it.

503
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 2: Come on, that's not true.

504
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: That's Michael big brother, that brother Jet big brother. That's

505
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: all brothers. That's it's Jackue little brother. It's Jaque little brother.

506
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, Jay, you ain't got to lie, crag,

507
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: you ain't got to lie. I just don't want nobody

508
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: to do nothing to you.

509
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 7: Man.

510
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 4: You know also, I'm a big dude. I feel like

511
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 4: Jermain gonna have to send somebody.

512
00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 3: You could whoop your man. It's just crazy. This is

513
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 3: crazy that listen you honest now you whooped in Jermaine.

514
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: Jermaine. All I'm saying is I imagine he gonna have

515
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: to send somebody. He's not doing his own even imagine

516
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: you think Jermain run up on me. Straight up. I

517
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: think your Maine is from Gary, Indiana. He said, actual,

518
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: they're for real, Garry. No, that's in the hood.

519
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,959
Speaker 3: That's Chicago Land area. It's different. Yeah, they say Michael's

520
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,479
Speaker 3: out here fighting niggas for real. I want to relax, bro,

521
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 3: you know me to edit that part, Jermaine.

522
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, brother, I was wrong. I was out of place.

523
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: You do have an aro. Everything here is real. Brother.

524
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: If you see me in the streets and sein it, brother,

525
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: you ain't got to do nothing. He saw you, Jay,

526
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: I don't want no problems.

527
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 3: I don't want no.

528
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: Small dark them out. He mean, he ain't from here,

529
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: He ain't even from a cour stall him out the last,

530
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: but not least another R and B nigga. I seen

531
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Speaker 1: you take a shot at woo me you me. I'm

532
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: watching the interview, said okay, so they asked him about

533
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: R and B. You know, his wife answered a lot

534
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: of questions for him, which you know, I respect. That's

535
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: how you stayed married for forty five thousand years. But

536
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: then they ain't even ask him this, and he just

537
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: threw it in there. He was like, hey, get you

538
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: no records like I beat it beat He beat it

539
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: up I'm like sneaking talking about my son is talking

540
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: about h Jay. He talk about ladies. This your son

541
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: prime me to the Miami to the bank, and then

542
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 1: he gave him some extras like yeah, Meigga, you know

543
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: it just ain't no for play.

544
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 5: Damn.

545
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 3: That's how you felt about me.

546
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 1: Dog, I got no crying Jae. I need to. They

547
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: don't have the liner notes and stuff anymore. When I

548
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: was coming up, y'all, no, no, no, no, you used

549
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 1: to be able to open.

550
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 3: It and say who wrote this?

551
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: I would have known Jay, but you know music, and

552
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: don't say I don't got titles.

553
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 3: I don't have title. I didn't know you wrote that

554
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 3: old joke.

555
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: I just wrote saying it too.

556
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 3: That's you, that's.

557
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: Low kij.

558
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 4: I've been telling that joke since I was in Tacoma

559
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 4: when that song was like at its apex.

560
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: That joke used to kill because and I had two

561
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: summers with that joke like that song and Tacoma was

562
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: on the radio probably two years of my comedy career.

563
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 1: I said, Nigga, no matter how bad I'm doing, brother,

564
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm digging myself out of any hole that was used

565
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: to be my backwork.

566
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 3: As technically it was a rap song.

567
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: First, we took it and made it an R and

568
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: B record, me Chris Brown and Pleasure Pete Wow. And

569
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: so it came from a rap mindset. Okay, you know

570
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, you know how much I'm

571
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: let you ride start them out on geezigs about you.

572
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 3: I'm telling you.

573
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: Ain't gonna work on you.

574
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 3: I can't say you can't pulling me on me?

575
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: He's going on here, man, So do you have any

576
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: any other beast with R B singers? Bro?

577
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 3: And I just let's just get it out while we're here.

578
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 4: Low key, my I ain't gonna say no names, is

579
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 4: you know?

580
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to clue you wing, but.

581
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 4: I say too I make too many videos. Okay, That's

582
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 4: really what it boils down to. All jokes aside. My

583
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 4: wife was like, hey man, you gotta watch what you say.

584
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 4: She said today, like when you were starting, you never

585
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 4: ran into these pridles, right, but now you're saying stuff.

586
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 4: You you've seen another BT Awards, they recognizing you. You

587
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,719
Speaker 4: at the na A, you they seeing you, And as

588
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 4: you notice, like less and less of my making videos

589
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 4: like that. It's more like, man, I saw its on

590
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 4: the internet. I ain't scared.

591
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 3: I'm still a real nigga.

592
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 1: You feel me, I'm still a real nigga from Tacoma

593
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: Cut two five three on me Dad homies?

594
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 3: Can I say that.

595
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if these things are allowed. I just

596
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: like rap music when the Dead Guy, I ain't going.

597
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: I heard gn X, I've heard some lingo. But she

598
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: was just like, yo, keV really though for real? Right? Right?

599
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: But then like, you know, covering the pop culture podcast,

600
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: it's all you like, you have to you how to

601
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: cover that? What going on?

602
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 4: So I asked Big Boy this. Actually I was honest,

603
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 4: sat with Big Boy and I was like, Yo, how

604
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 4: do you deal with this? Because you running these people?

605
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 4: You know, these people they got to come through you

606
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 4: from press and what he said with some good advice,

607
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 4: he was like, I don't say anything with malice. They

608
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 4: know it's my job. I got to cover it, and

609
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 4: I try not to say nothing in a disrespectful way, right,

610
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 4: And sometimes he was sometimes I let my co host,

611
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 4: who ain't got as much loser as I do, say

612
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 4: some stuff because I'm gonna be the one that's actually

613
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 4: in the rooms with these people.

614
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: You know, big Boy Street nigga too, right, everybody, I'm sorry,

615
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Big he is big Boy street nigga. It

616
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: seems so it's a lot of kind and funny. But

617
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: but if you go there, yeah really yeah, yeah, yeah,

618
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: you know what. That's you know what now he did

619
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: turned me into a snitch. I'm sorry because that's not

620
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: even how I get that. No, I'm just trying to

621
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: tell him to be boy all the time. He's a

622
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: pull a rum aside, like you do, big Boy do

623
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: whatever he will. He'd be in the streets like yeah,

624
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: in the back seat somebody else driving. I can't see

625
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: a window. It gets more and more gangster as you

626
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: started to think about it. Gangsters don't drive down car.

627
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 3: They do press that damn.

628
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: But he when he done, he do this.

629
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: You know, I'm really an old nigga. So I remember

630
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 3: niggas have to do this in the back seat like this,

631
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 3: and then they gotta go back when they pull up.

632
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 3: Frank Craik, I ain't seen that in a minute.

633
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: Oh man, all right, all right, so we go, we go,

634
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: we go get it. We're gonna get away from that.

635
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: But I think we didn't squash all the R and

636
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: B B that.

637
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: You have Thank you, ro I got a hood pass,

638
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 3: I got a Ja Valentin Path.

639
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: No you don't. I'm telling you to be careful. So

640
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: what what pushed you into the space of writing books?

641
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 4: Money?

642
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: There's no money in books, at least they tell you.

643
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm about to I'm about to say it

644
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: to you. How people say it, right, they say, mean

645
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: you talk business, so we know this. I'm saying what

646
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: the people be saying. Oh, I ain't no money in bugs.

647
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: They keep you a little advance. And then I heard

648
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: this too, right, Yeah, So that's why I really, honestly

649
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: bro you my friend. I knew it was gonna be

650
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: hilarious coming, but I also wanted you to come here

651
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: and give blessing.

652
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, no, really get to this bad It's not

653
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 4: all money. That's that's not true. The marriage we hard

654
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 4: book with me and Melissa wrote New York Times bestseller

655
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 4: by the Way, Congratulations, thank you, and that book was for.

656
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: People.

657
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 4: We wrote the book that we've wanted people to have, right.

658
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 4: We felt like, you know, we grown up church and

659
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 4: we trying to do the right thing. We asking for

660
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 4: advice and we getting a lot of just pray, just pray,

661
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 4: give it to God, and it's like, you know what

662
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I feel you love God. That's not very

663
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 4: practical advice. We beef in, we pray. We still beef

664
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 4: in that type of stuff, like I'm not saying my

665
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 4: prayers are not answered, but she's mad at me. I

666
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 4: ain't getting no you know what I'm saying blessings?

667
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 3: So does are you hungry work? After?

668
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 6: No?

669
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: It don't work.

670
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 3: That little stuff was gone.

671
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 4: We was like, you know, my wife used to teach

672
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 4: marriage and Richmond at our church teach sun at school.

673
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 4: Like we wrote the book that we wanted people to

674
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 4: have okay, and I kind of did the same thing

675
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 4: with successful failure, Like I'm I'm not a harbor of information.

676
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 4: I don't feel like, oh because I got it, you

677
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 4: got to go through what I went through. Like I

678
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 4: want you to have every tool available to you that's

679
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 4: available to me. So that's really why I wrote the books,

680
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 4: like you can if you want to have a good marriage,

681
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 4: you can everything we knew up until that point. We

682
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 4: put it in that book so you can give that

683
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 4: as a gift to a newlywed couple going through And

684
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 4: a lot of people stop us in the street, like, yo,

685
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 4: your book really helped me.

686
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 3: Blah.

687
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 4: We're actually developing that book into a TV show right

688
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 4: now to be able to keep doing those lessons and

689
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 4: stuff like that and successful failure the same thing. Like

690
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 4: I did a masterclass where I wanted people to have

691
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 4: the game. I wrote a book so you could see,

692
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,959
Speaker 4: like one, everything I've done, you can do right right.

693
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 4: I really truly feel like that. The usual part of

694
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 4: the equation isn't talent. I'm not the most talented comedian

695
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 4: by a lot. I can name ten women, ten men

696
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 4: funnier than me on any given night stage screen.

697
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 3: Whatever.

698
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 4: What I am is smart, good at marketing, good at business,

699
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 4: and I have a good work ethic. Those are actually

700
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 4: the things that qualify you or disqualify you. The talent

701
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 4: is evenly distributed, you know. Music wise, you've probably seen

702
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 4: a thousand singers who can sing well. You can write,

703
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 4: but you don't have a lot of people who want

704
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 4: to sit in here and do ten backing tracks, do

705
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 4: another ten backing tracks, get it till it's right, rewrite

706
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 4: the hook, work the hook. You see a lot of

707
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 4: people are like Nigga, I an't really trying to do

708
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 4: all that. But the people who are like no, I'll

709
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 4: stay in here till it gets right. Are the people

710
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 4: who usually succeed and then go out and do the

711
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 4: marketing behind it, and then go out and do the marketing.

712
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 4: That's the other thing about content. When I was coming up,

713
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 4: it was like comedian wise, you could come to LA,

714
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 4: have a great set and agents in the crowd. They

715
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 4: put you on Comic view Death, Comedy Jam tonight's show,

716
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 4: have a great set on that. You're sold out and

717
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 4: you're naturally torn. Those comedians that are still working today

718
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 4: who had one or two great comic view sets, def

719
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 4: comedy jam sets, you know, PDD, Bad Boys, Comedy, Martin Lawrence,

720
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 4: First Man, whatever, their sets are still working today. That

721
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 4: is not the world for us today. You gotta make

722
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 4: these niggas laugh every single day.

723
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: So listening you, you've done that for me. Bro Like

724
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: I go to your page and I find something and

725
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, this shit funny. Yeah you know what I mean.

726
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: I still want to get to where the money at.

727
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: Of course, yes, I feel like you gave Kippy. Here's

728
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: the thing he was with these damn books. I'm gonna

729
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: tell you. I'm gonna tell you now.

730
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 4: The truth is, I got a pretty sizable advance from

731
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 4: the rip from the rip for for Marriage b hard

732
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 4: for each book. Okay, I got a pretty sizable advance

733
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 4: because based on my track record, right, they looking at everything,

734
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 4: They looking at the theme that separates me. And why

735
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 4: I get stuff that all of people don't get it

736
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 4: is because I have hard ticket sales. When you look

737
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 4: at my thing and you see he sold out, And

738
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 4: that's why I put this stuff out. Three hundred seats

739
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 4: back when I was doing three hundred became five hundred,

740
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 4: became a thousand, became three thousand, keep going, you know,

741
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 4: three thousand in Brooklyn, three thousand in London.

742
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you see that.

743
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 3: Okay, they know you're over there, Bro.

744
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: You over there, Bro, I'm in it. I'm in the fields.

745
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 3: F'm selling the food.

746
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: Fum.

747
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 4: It's a matting steer.

748
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: You in Ironto? Now, are you still? I'm just saying

749
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: things I heard on Top Boy. Okay, I'm just saying

750
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: heard on Top You just sound like a drake in

751
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: loud that redelt mind you.

752
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 3: I'm just saying stuff I heard on Top Boy.

753
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 4: All right, But like I'm when we first do them,

754
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 4: first two tours, when my wife was on there, right,

755
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 4: we was and then we would do the Love Hour first, right,

756
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 4: we were selling two to one tickets. You come see

757
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 4: me and Melissa at six o'clock. We'd go from six

758
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 4: to seven thirty. Okay, take a thirty minute break, then

759
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 4: me Tony Baker into here from eight to nine thirty.

760
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 4: We'll give you both for fifty bucks.

761
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: Right.

762
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 4: And people was like, bet so, we're selling from Seattle

763
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 4: to LA and everywhere between, from LA all across to

764
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 4: Atlanta down to Jacksonville. Full night of entertainment, Full night

765
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 4: of entertainment, fifty for fifty bucks. Two shows, and I'm

766
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 4: doing the whole show with Melissa. Take thirty minutes off

767
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 4: to here, does fifteen, Tony does twenty five, and then

768
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 4: I do another forty five fifty and then we would

769
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 4: go and do a meet and greet for two or

770
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 4: three hundred people taking pictures after that. And mind you Jay,

771
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 4: At this time that first year, I was working at

772
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 4: All Deaf Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, take a red eye

773
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 4: Thursday night to the Friday City show, work remotely on

774
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 4: Friday and really being slack, giving notes on stuff, all

775
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 4: that type of stuff. It will show Friday, wake up

776
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 4: Saturday morning, drive to our next city, do a show

777
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 4: Saturday there, Sunday morning, drive through another city. Driver fly

778
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 4: do the show Sunday morning there, Monday morning, fly back

779
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 4: to La Melissa would go home. I would go from

780
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 4: lax to all deaf Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. I did

781
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 4: that for ten months straight. I worked every single day

782
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 4: for ten months straight because I needed that actual job

783
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 4: and make sure my family's taking care of health insurance.

784
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 4: And if I can't pay these comedians with these ticket sales,

785
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to go into my pocket and to

786
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 4: my savings. I didn't know I was gonna be able

787
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 4: to pay the comedians until the third month of the tour.

788
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 4: I had enough ticket sales. I'm like, okay, bet if

789
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 4: I don't sell enough to sick.

790
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: I had no investors any, no investors, no agent, no manager,

791
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: no capital.

792
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 4: I saved all my church show money. And this other

793
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 4: influencer did this thing where he sold I forgot what

794
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 4: he titled it, but basically, I opened all my ticket

795
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 4: sales and I said, before I even had a venue,

796
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 4: I said, if you know you want to come to

797
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 4: see Kevil on stage in Orlando, I'm gonna sell you

798
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 4: a ticket for fifteen dollars while I try to find

799
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 4: a venue. Okay, okay, and once I get this venue,

800
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 4: your fifteen dollars get you in. If you find out

801
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 4: this venue is too far from you, I'll refund you.

802
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: So you kind of like became in a sense like

803
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: the home shopping network. No, as you're breaking down the

804
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: business bros. You just because I think what happens with

805
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: entertainment is that it turns into this passion project for

806
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: most people. It's just what I love other than what

807
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: I actually do, and this is my livelihood. So I

808
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: need to do it when and wherever I can.

809
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know what I mean.

810
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: Like, you got really talented people that are like, oh,

811
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm not performing there or I'm not doing this right like,

812
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: which is is their prerogative. Those same people should not

813
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: complain when a cave on stage. Yes is continuing to

814
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: grow to bigger venues, yes, and sell out more and

815
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: more churches performing.

816
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: In the first two years.

817
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 4: Anybody who would take us with a microphone, I learned

818
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 4: you can't do that. But the first time we would

819
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 4: perform in South Carolina at a hotel ballroom and found that, oh,

820
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 4: they give us a good deal at a hotel. But

821
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 4: they don't have good performance equipment because they're usually just

822
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 4: hosting wedding receptions, like you don't have to have. So

823
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 4: that's another thing about churches. Actually have pristine back line

824
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 4: a church's actions. Big churches they got a board that

825
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 4: you could do a live recording for professional front of people.

826
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 4: They go on tours with everybody. Literally literally you go

827
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 4: to Noel Jones church. That band is Mary J. Blige's band,

828
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 4: Jay Z's drummer, Beyonce's keys. These niggas are rotating the

829
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 4: greatest niggas on earth. And when they're back home there

830
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 4: at his Grace Jones brother, I know he was my

831
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan. Yeah, that's Noel. He's spending the mic right.

832
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 4: So we will perform inming Cincinnati one time, Jay, we

833
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 4: were into the high school. We get there at three

834
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 4: o'clock to set up. They forgot they rented it to us.

835
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 4: There's nobody there and I'm like, yo, I have a contract.

836
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: Tonight.

837
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 4: I'm like, what you mean, ain't nobody there? And they're like, oh, yeah,

838
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 4: we do. Oh we forgot we even do that. Well,

839
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 4: I mean the gym is we've got we even do that. Yes,

840
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 4: they're like, oh, the janitor's here. Luckily he can unlock

841
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 4: lock it for you. He unlocks the gym. The sound

842
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 4: thing is the doors locked. We have to climb through

843
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 4: the seats into the sound boot, turn the lights on,

844
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 4: and run the sound ourselves. Our green room was in

845
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 4: the band room of the high school. They got timpanees

846
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 4: and all that stuff. We sitting in high school chairs backstage,

847
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 4: ordering uvereats. My brother lost the keys to the van

848
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 4: that same night. So that's when I found out. You

849
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 4: lose rental car keys, like five hundred dollars.

850
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I happed on a plane with rental car

851
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 3: keys one time.

852
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: Oh snap, I said, yeah, yes, whatever it costs is

853
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: what it costs. Literally, I'm not flying two shows that night.

854
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: Had to wait another hour and a half for the

855
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: tow truck to come. We're pissed him and this nigga

856
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: to this day. He died, never admitted the truth. He

857
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 1: died with that lie. You know you lost them keys, Jay,

858
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 1: I know you in heaven smiling down. It's time to

859
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: admit you know you lost them keys.

860
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 3: You're snitching on people in there.

861
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: I will tell the truth your honor. He died with

862
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: that secret. She got them keys and he lost them.

863
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: So so yeah, I was. I was.

864
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 4: I was literally there was nothing, there was no where

865
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 4: I wouldn't perform.

866
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 7: No.

867
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 4: I literally performed restaurants, high schools, bars, churches, anybody who

868
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 4: would take me. By the grace of God, my audience

869
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 4: was coming to see me, and we delivered shows. A

870
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 4: lot of times. These people hadn't even seen me live.

871
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 4: They just going off my videos. It's so funny, like

872
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 4: I started as a stand up and to come a

873
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 4: proud of doing the Internet and those were my first

874
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 4: fans who saw me live on stage. That's stual where

875
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 4: the name Kevin on stage came from. Okay, I'm glad

876
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 4: you said that because I was just yeah, I used

877
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 4: to be Kevin Fredericks. I remember on Facebook you couldn't

878
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 4: have a fake name right at first, and then I

879
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 4: got on to I was at Kevin Frederick's. But what

880
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 4: was happening is old nine Twitter eight. People were getting

881
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 4: fired for their tweets. People were tweeting real reckless and

882
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 4: I was like, I can't get fired for these tweets,

883
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 4: so I need to come up with a different name

884
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 4: so they don't know who I really am.

885
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: So I'm there, like what I'm keV. I'd be on stage.

886
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: I'll just call myself Kevin on stage say he came

887
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: with you literally, and I wish I would have just

888
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: kept because I got fired from that job anyway, just

889
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: for not being a good employee.

890
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 3: He was a rabbit.

891
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: You're like, well, yeah, I'm Jason and I'll be shooting people.

892
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 3: So I'm Jay Shooter.

893
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: That's me. Literally, I me two minutes. I just was like,

894
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: I cannot get fired. What can I do?

895
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 4: What can I do at work? I changed my Twitter

896
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 4: handle on my work computer.

897
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 3: So I got I had a question Jeff Shooter and

898
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 3: kept on stage. I got RB in comedy tonight.

899
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: I'll beat it, beat it up and gonna do that,

900
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: and then Kevin go do some jokes about I'll beat

901
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: it beating. Because so when you came up with your

902
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: two minute name, somehow your wife became adjacent to your

903
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: two minute name too.

904
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 4: I picked that name for her. I said, now we're

905
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 4: branding it because she didn't even have Facebook. I created

906
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 4: her face. That was very pimpish, right, It's almost like

907
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 4: a matching suit. Oh yeah, we them, old head, we

908
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 4: gonna beat them.

909
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 1: People who dressed in a red suit, bright red faking

910
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: Fregkie Beverly at the cookout in twenty years for sure.

911
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 3: Because I'm like, okay, so missus.

912
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: For sure?

913
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: All right?

914
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 4: I alright her Facebook page and all my friends facebook

915
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 4: page because I was the only one on there.

916
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 3: I nobody talked to was the wife friend of Kemo's dad.

917
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 3: There's some niggas out here that that's their age, bro,

918
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 3: Like what is going on?

919
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 4: I created her Instagram and I was like, listen, Fred

920
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 4: litz Fred and Fred man Na miss kem on stage

921
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 4: and that's it it.

922
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: So does Tyler Perry want to fight you? Everything feels

923
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: like Tyler Perry Studio.

924
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 3: Nick Perry the blueprint for me.

925
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 1: Listen.

926
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: He believe he should be the blueprint in business.

927
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:14,919
Speaker 1: For sure.

928
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 4: We wanted to be him, okay, our greatest goal in time.

929
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 4: So I used to go by me Jay and I

930
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 4: used to be called the playmakers because we made plays

931
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 4: and that was gonna be our thing. I actually got

932
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 4: on the internet.

933
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 3: You got a name yourself of what.

934
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 4: You doker.

935
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 1: Ain't too much thought to it, y'all. Playmakers one because

936
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: playmakers was actually taken because of athletes.

937
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 3: Like niggas already got the playmakers.

938
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: So we the playmakers won on YouTube. And there's another

939
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 1: one that we'd been the playmakers. Nobody suit us do you' sayings?

940
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: Let it go?

941
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 4: He was the original playmaker, but we actually started making

942
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 4: videos because we were in the play business. And I

943
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 4: never forget this pla you know what you know me

944
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 4: because supposed to yeah, Perry with a big three and

945
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 4: we were like, I mean we man. We lost this

946
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 4: investor forty thousand dollars one time trying to sell plays

947
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 4: we had. There was a place called the show Whear

948
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 4: Center in Washington. It was a brand new kind of

949
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 4: mid size arena, sat six thousand people. Up until that point,

950
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 4: we just didn't high schools or churches. And at this

951
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 4: point the investors like, no show Where Center. I feel like, yeah,

952
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 4: it's they. They've hosted concerts there.

953
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: We keep you calling, like, yeah, we.

954
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 3: Saw music so Child there.

955
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: One time.

956
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 4: Remember our pastor got mad at me for I put

957
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 4: on Facebook man music so Child had a great concert tonight.

958
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 4: He was like, brother, you can't be leading the people

959
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 4: of God.

960
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: To be the music. And I was like, music so called.

961
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: You don't even sing about people.

962
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 3: He's talking about us.

963
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: You can't you can you do?

964
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: And that's so what's called lord?

965
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: Originally?

966
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wasn't trying to hear it, okay, but they

967
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 4: sat like six thousand. J investor paid forty thousand for

968
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 4: us to put our play up. When I tell you

969
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 4: six thousand, we sold eighty eight tickets, maybe ninety. We

970
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 4: did not sell one hundred tickets selling.

971
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 3: Our friends didn't even come.

972
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,959
Speaker 1: Our friends did all of our friends did? We ain't

973
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: have six thousand friends. We had about fifty sixty. It

974
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: was only friends in family. So we are performing to

975
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: ninety people in a place that seats six thousand. So

976
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: what do you tell your investor when that happened? When

977
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: he shows up and he sees eighty eight peoplew.

978
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 3: What is that? Cop?

979
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: Because because people don't understand business, bro and I try

980
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: to give an insider's view to people who want to

981
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: do these things. Yeah, right, and they need to know yeah,

982
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: because you didn't know no, and you didn't know if

983
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: they was probably going to show up with back in

984
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: the backstage thousand Like what is what is going through

985
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: your mind?

986
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 3: Is You're like, man, we're about to hit eighty eight.

987
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 4: So in my mind, I'm like, first, you got to

988
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 4: be a little delusional. So my mind I'm repeating stories.

989
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 4: I heard Tyler Perry's first thing, he didn't sell no tickets.

990
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 4: And then it was raining. There was a line around there.

991
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 4: I'm looking around, like maybe there's maybe in Seattle, maybe

992
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 4: there's traffic. At first, I'm like, maybe there's traffic, y'allah.

993
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 4: So at first I don't believe it. I'm like all

994
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 4: people just running, ladies. You hit them with the yeah,

995
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 4: walk up, the walk up, crazy walk up. Probably honestly,

996
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 4: probably was two or three hundred people that stuff. Like

997
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 4: in the Jakie Promoter playbook, it's a walk up, y'all.

998
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: It's the greatest thing for the Jankie promoter to be

999
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: able to say, because you know, so, yeah, we we

1000
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: about twenty percent so but once walk up come, we're

1001
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: gonna probably be at eighty. Nigga, No you not, you're not.

1002
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: You're not, you're not.

1003
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 4: And the thing is, we did everything we knew how

1004
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 4: to do. But at that time, it was like flyers

1005
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 4: at the barber shop on your you know, we go

1006
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 4: to every church concert in the Tacoma Seattle area paper,

1007
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 4: every you know, a car perform, here's our play. But

1008
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 4: people hadn't been used to paying. That's when I first

1009
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 4: started to learn, well people will do for free when

1010
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 4: we did free shows.

1011
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: We was cracking. It's popping high school auditorium full, but

1012
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: we got the high school for free high schools.

1013
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 4: Oh, if it's free, we can you know, it's community service.

1014
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 4: So we seen seven hundred eight hundred. So we're telling

1015
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 4: the investors we gonna we gonna flip this. We on

1016
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 4: the radio, stuff like that. That's when we learned early on.

1017
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 4: This would really helped what I try to tell you

1018
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 4: on social media.

1019
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't cost anything to like your video, doesn't cost

1020
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: anything to comment on your video, to share your video.

1021
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 4: It costs that person nothing. It costs a lot to

1022
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 4: go into my phone and enter my credit card. I

1023
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 4: really gotta want to support you for doing that. And

1024
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 4: if if you have not convinced anybody to do that

1025
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 4: for a shirt, a ticket, sewing into your movie a kickstarter,

1026
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,919
Speaker 4: I wouldn't even say you have fans in that way

1027
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 4: because if it doesn't cost me anything, there's a way

1028
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 4: to monetize you. But if you're not buying hard tickets,

1029
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 4: you don't really have a true fan. I can be

1030
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 4: aware of your right, I can be aware of you

1031
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 4: from a TikTok song from this. But if I'm not

1032
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 4: actively buying something from you, I don't think that's a

1033
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 4: true fan that you can build a business on. I

1034
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 4: don't mean to tell people that you don't have fans

1035
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 4: every It's like Beyonce. She has a great flywheel. She

1036
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 4: does a lot of stuff for free. Right the music

1037
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 4: is free now, Beachella is free. You can see her

1038
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 4: on Netflix for free. So she's trying to convert you

1039
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 4: into a fan that will buy music, buy a vinyl

1040
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 4: by a hoodie, buy a ticket to a concert. These

1041
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 4: are the fans where actually can build a business off you.

1042
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 4: If I'm a super fan, I might be buying Ivy Park,

1043
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 4: I might be buying your jeans. I mean buying your whiskey.

1044
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 4: These are all starting from Netflix. So she gives everybody

1045
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 4: this and then she needs you to come deeper and deeper.

1046
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 4: Now down here you got. I'm going to Cowboy Carter.

1047
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 4: I'm buying Cowboy Carter clothes. I'm sitting on the floor.

1048
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 4: I'm getting a VIP, I'm getting the special drink. That's Beyonce.

1049
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 4: Most business people, you can actually build the majority of

1050
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 4: business people on those small amount of people. But you

1051
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 4: got to start them all up here and then follow

1052
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 4: them down, down, down, down into your super fans. But

1053
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 4: most people on social media are there. They're just here,

1054
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 4: and they never get you to convert anything. And it's

1055
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 4: like even moving from Instagram to click my link in

1056
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 4: my buyout and go wherever else. I'm telling take, that's

1057
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 4: even hard. And the industry found that's out years ago.

1058
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 4: They were trying to put YouTubers. They were trying to

1059
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 4: sell more Broadway tickets, so they're putting YouTubers in Broadway shows,

1060
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 4: and they found out just because I watch you on

1061
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 4: YouTube does not mean I'm going to buy a three

1062
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 4: hundred dollars ticket to see you on a Broadway show.

1063
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 4: What doesn't mean I live in New York like that.

1064
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 4: Three hundred tickets is not three hundred dollar tickets, not

1065
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 4: really three hundred. I got a fly, a hotel, drive, parking, dinner, whatever, babysitter.

1066
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 4: So a three hundred dollar ticket actually cost you seven

1067
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 4: eight hundred dollars. So if you're not doing that, then

1068
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 4: you're not gonna make actual money. So I started off

1069
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 4: selling tickets. But that's why I post two or three

1070
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 4: videos a day. I want you to associate funniness with me.

1071
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 4: That's why my face is always in the videos. I

1072
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 4: don't care how funny the thing is. I got something yourself,

1073
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 4: No I do, but I want you to remember my

1074
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 4: name is keV.

1075
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: I love me. I'm an handsome nigga. Even with the

1076
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: man boobs and the t and the stomach, I'm still

1077
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: out here.

1078
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 3: You feel me.

1079
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 4: Everybody ain't got the skurl in the slide back. Everybody ain't.

1080
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: Huge.

1081
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 3: No, you know, no, you got real because it ain't.

1082
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 3: It ain't me cause you you took another shot as

1083
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 3: you're met, took another shotw.

1084
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 4: But no, That's why I put my face in every

1085
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 4: video because I want psychologically, I want to connect you. Man,

1086
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 4: that video was funny, and when you go to my page,

1087
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have something to say, right, So I want

1088
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 4: to convince you, Okay, come see me on a on

1089
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 4: a show. And then I really got toned. Well, you see,

1090
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 4: being that first time. If I'm not killing you're one

1091
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 4: and done. You're not giving me a second chance. So

1092
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 4: I had to make sure my stand up delivered. And

1093
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 4: then if you really have a good time, you're like, oh,

1094
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 4: I'm gonna buy a shirt on the way out and

1095
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 4: next time he comes in town, I might come. They're

1096
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 4: fully invested at that point, fully invested at that point.

1097
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 4: But I had to deliver every single step of the way.

1098
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 4: And also it's just like a music artist, like if

1099
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 4: you want to sell tickets again as a musician, your

1100
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 4: album got to be good again again. And that stands

1101
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 4: even for Beyonce, like everybody, Yeah, Beyonce, she has delivered

1102
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 4: over and over for since I was fifteen, fourteen years old,

1103
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 4: she has delivered good album, good tour, good performance, new album, good,

1104
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 4: good performance. But even if she's not a lot of

1105
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 4: reinvention and a lot of reinvention, and she's like the

1106
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 4: pinnacle to me of what an artist can be. But

1107
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 4: it's so interesting musicians, the audience doesn't want to hear

1108
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 4: your new stuff. Comedians, they don't want to hear.

1109
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:53,479
Speaker 3: Your old stuff old stuff.

1110
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 4: So we both got to be reinventing. Yeah, I mean,

1111
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 4: if you're come.

1112
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 3: In, you have to continue to find pockets.

1113
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And that's why I was going to ask you,

1114
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: like you say, you do you know a couple two

1115
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: to three you know, posts videos a day, Like how

1116
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: do you really decide is it? Do you guys have

1117
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: like a family brainstorm if I make a video seriously,

1118
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: like before you even post something like is there all

1119
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: right at this point?

1120
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 3: Are you just kind of in mode of like, Okay,

1121
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 3: I think this is funny.

1122
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 4: I think what I do is if it catches my

1123
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 4: eye and I think it's funny, interesting, and if I

1124
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 4: can say three things about it, three jokes, three whatever

1125
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 4: connected to nostalgia and something else. If I have three

1126
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 4: things to say, even if if one is just adding

1127
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 4: like I saw, let me see what I posted today

1128
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 4: and I'll tell you what's my thought process on how

1129
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 4: I go through it. I'm scrolling Twitter and Instagram and

1130
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 4: Facebook and threads just like everybody else. But I'm not

1131
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 4: scrolling to just scroll and be entertained. I'm scrolling to

1132
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 4: see what I can do about it. So yesterday, as

1133
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 4: we record this, Miles Cayton, somebody threaded Miles Cayten, black people,

1134
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 4: Miles Canton.

1135
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: Right.

1136
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 4: I knew his name was Miles Cayten, but I was

1137
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 4: on my podcast the day before and I saw a

1138
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 4: lot of people arguing me down that it was Miles Canton.

1139
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 4: So I'm like, okay, this is the first thing. Is

1140
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 4: this is interesting? I thought about this when I actually

1141
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 4: had this thought because I've been seeing it on social media,

1142
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 4: but it didn't click to make a video. So I'm like, oh,

1143
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 4: somebody else did that. That actually reminded me that I

1144
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 4: already had this thought and somebody else made that thread. Okay, boom,

1145
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 4: that's one.

1146
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: Two.

1147
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 4: Here's what's funny about that. Black people always add letters

1148
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 4: to stuff, right, We definitely to everything. That is when

1149
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 4: I said the video family family, dollars save and below

1150
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 4: Nordstrom's costcos all that. So that's two black people love

1151
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 4: adding a letter that's not there. And the third one

1152
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 4: is people do that with me. They call keV on.

1153
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 4: It's not my name, it's Kevin Kevin on the stage,

1154
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 4: so it even happens to me. That's three things that Actually,

1155
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 4: somebody said that his family was part of Canton Spirituals

1156
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 4: and I was like, that's not.

1157
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 1: True, and then they started just then. And the funny

1158
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 1: thing about that I found that on social media almost

1159
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 1: made this video. The Canton Spirituals are named after a

1160
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: city in Mississippi.

1161
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 3: Their actual last name is Watkins.

1162
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: The Canton Spiritual's last name is Watkins, but he their grandson,

1163
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: but he's their grandfather of black people and He's from

1164
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 1: a whole different Godic Royalty family, the figure Off family,

1165
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: Timoy figure Off, hes Kywalker Nation, figure Out Cooper, a

1166
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: whole nother family. So that's it.

1167
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, that's three things. Yeah, gonna make that

1168
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 4: video right before I went to bed. That video did

1169
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 4: very well, and I make it post it. The whole

1170
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 4: process takes less than ten minutes. I try not to

1171
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 4: do anything that takes me more than ten minutes because

1172
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 4: I have too many other things to do.

1173
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: Your freestyle rabber basically, you know right now, I don't

1174
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: you want I'm Wayne's jay Z. I'm jay Z. You

1175
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: too chained, I'm out here.

1176
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 4: But I try to throw up three videos a day,

1177
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 4: and I don't really put too much thought into any

1178
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,720
Speaker 4: of them because I know I'm gonna make three tomorrow.

1179
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 4: Right today, I had met Jay, I had meetings, I

1180
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 4: was I was doing budgets. I'm editing budgets myself. I

1181
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 4: have calls on the way here.

1182
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: I know I had to do this.

1183
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 4: I had a lunch meeting about something. I still found

1184
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 4: out how to do them three and sometimes I cheat,

1185
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 4: Like I made so many videos. I know the album

1186
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 4: is not gonna remember everything I did Freddi Gibbs to it.

1187
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 4: He said, top Dog that top Dog Nigga always on

1188
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 4: the radio, top Dog law And I'm like, I made

1189
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 4: a video about that last year.

1190
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: Let it search my name. My daughter knows all of

1191
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: the top he's the greatest ever. She's like, Daddy's got

1192
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: another one. He's the greatest. And then the time I

1193
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: should like asking it.

1194
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 3: To real, I got a two million, and then I

1195
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 3: can't walk.

1196
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,919
Speaker 4: So now for tomorrow's video, first thing in the morning,

1197
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 4: I'm like, let me just post this thing I made

1198
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 4: is if I usually think if it's over a year ago,

1199
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 4: either people forgot about it, the algorithm didn't show it

1200
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 4: to you, or if it's funny enough, then it'll be

1201
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 4: funny enough again. So now tomorrow doing a remix to Ignition,

1202
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 4: saying got that from Tony Baker. He said, when you

1203
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 4: watch Martin, it ain't a new episode. Every time they

1204
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 4: got do episodes and reruns. Some people didn't see you

1205
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 4: the first time. Some people who saw it like it again.

1206
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 4: Algerithon doesn't even remember.

1207
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 3: Shout out to Tony Baker.

1208
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 4: Tony Baker, I take a lot from everybody.

1209
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 3: That that guy is great, and I think y'all together. Yeah,

1210
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 3: it's really cool.

1211
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 4: That is my nigga.

1212
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 3: He's literally cool.

1213
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 4: Bro, He's one of the comedians that's funnier than me.

1214
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that to put myself down. I'm like

1215
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 4: in the league, it's like watching Bron like Nigga. I'm

1216
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 4: out here, but that nigga's out here. Like That's how

1217
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 4: I feel about Tony. But we also work well together.

1218
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 4: And I'm okay being the way to your bron. If

1219
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 4: we win a championship, I'll be the bosh to your

1220
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 4: bron and your way, I'll be the bird man to

1221
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 4: your boss. As long as we get a wing, I

1222
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 4: want to win. I'm not intimate, and that's why I'm

1223
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 4: grateful to come from the play industry, because in the

1224
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 4: play industry, you need everybody to do well.

1225
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 3: You need the actors to do well.

1226
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 4: Singers, the band, the stage hands, wardrobe, stage manager, the

1227
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 4: lighting tech. Everybody has to do good. So you want

1228
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 4: to cast people who are good everywhere because the audience

1229
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 4: only remembers that they had a good time. So I

1230
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 4: don't have to be the reason you laughed. I'm a

1231
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 4: part of the show you enjoyed. And that's how I

1232
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 4: do my business. That's why I have no problem casting

1233
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 4: people who are at the best, and I'll let you

1234
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 4: shine because I found another could be and told me this.

1235
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 4: He said, people don't associate the funny person of a

1236
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 4: funny joke. They associate everybody they saw when something funny happened.

1237
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: No, for sure, So for sure, Martin, Tisha Campbell, everybody

1238
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: to she and Arnold Cole, Tommy Sean brother Man, all

1239
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: of y'all are funny because I like the show. Yeah,

1240
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: Martin used to kill but Pam used to be funny too,

1241
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: So did Gina, so did Cold, so did Tommy, so

1242
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: the brother Man did Tracy.

1243
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 4: Tracy Morgan. I forgot their character, Ustle man man, They

1244
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 4: all funny.

1245
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: Faith Chief.

1246
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 3: I got these.

1247
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:50,919
Speaker 1: To this day, Me and Tank call each other chief

1248
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: from that. From that and he ain't even what he

1249
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: ain't even ten to fifteen, twenty episodes maybe maybe, but

1250
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: you still remember how funny he was.

1251
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 4: So that's that's my ideology. Associate myself with greatness, put

1252
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 4: people in positions to win and be around them in

1253
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 4: their orbit, and the audience will love you.

1254
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: What made you decide to continue to just reinvest in

1255
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: my self and in your business instead?

1256
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 3: Of being like, you know what, I'm gonna go cut

1257
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 3: this deal.

1258
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take off some of this overhead and maybe

1259
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: I won't have as much ownership in what I'm doing.

1260
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I've never been asked that before.

1261
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: I think I always did it.

1262
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 4: My first investment was I worked a regular job and

1263
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 4: in order to do plays, me and my brother and

1264
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 4: aunt used to have to chip in our own money

1265
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 4: from work. And I knew I couldn't. The players wasn't

1266
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 4: making no money, so it wasn't to invest, wasn't to

1267
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 4: invest whatever we made. Oh, BOYD lost that folk that

1268
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 4: he lost that and then the next person lost twenty man.

1269
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 4: So we all nigga sixty thousand dollars to this day,

1270
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 4: to this day, never got it back. Oh I didn't

1271
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 4: finish that part of the story.

1272
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: The jog with you.

1273
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 3: Now, will you change your name?

1274
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: My name?

1275
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 3: That first?

1276
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 4: So what happened with that that investor? We were like

1277
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 4: Tyler Perry, a promoter for Tyler Perry. We flew him

1278
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 4: out because we're like, this is gonna be our moment, right,

1279
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 4: this is this is when we had the twenty thousand

1280
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 4: dollars investor and we're like, I don't remember who connected

1281
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 4: them with us, but like he was like the guy,

1282
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 4: if you impress him, you can make it.

1283
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 3: You can go on a tour.

1284
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 4: We flew him out, put him up the finest double

1285
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 4: tree that we could find.

1286
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: And he took it.

1287
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 4: Is the job, just that's the one to give a

1288
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 4: good gies. That's the one to give you the cookies.

1289
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 4: Right in Seattle Center, you near the mall. It looked nice,

1290
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 4: nice area, solid hotel. I like Seattles, Yeah, good place.

1291
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 4: He comes to the show. I mean, Jay, it's the

1292
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 4: best play we've ever done. My wife to this day

1293
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 4: was like, this is the best play y'all ever done.

1294
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 4: We absolutely crushed it. We go out to dinner with

1295
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 4: him and he's like, you, guys, are I've been with Todd,

1296
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 4: I've been with your Carris, I've been with David Talbert.

1297
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 4: Y'all already, y'all are ready to go to the next level.

1298
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 4: What we gotta do is go to Oakland.

1299
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: Right.

1300
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 4: He's like, Oakland is where you break black plays. If

1301
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 4: Oakland rocks with you, I can take you on a

1302
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 4: thirty city tour. Okay, but you gotta be proven by Oakland.

1303
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 4: I learned this when I did my first show in Oakland.

1304
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 4: If they don't rock with you, they're not going. And

1305
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 4: I bombed another story another day, he's like, I'm ready

1306
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 4: to take y'all to Oakland. We need to put this

1307
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 4: play up. We need to do a week in Oakland.

1308
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 4: If y'all can sell five thousand tickets a night for

1309
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 4: three nights, I guarantee you I can take fifteen fifteen thousand,

1310
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 4: mind you, if we have only sold three hundred. If

1311
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 4: you can sell, you can do fifteen thousand. And he's like, you, guys,

1312
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 4: gotta get somebody who used to be a star. That's

1313
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 4: how you sold gospel plays. If you were to star

1314
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 4: in the nineties and you ain't working at the moment,

1315
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 4: or you're in the movies, but I know your name

1316
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 4: because he's like, you got to at that time. It's

1317
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 4: got to be on the radio, it's got to be

1318
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 4: on TV commercials. Y'all names are not big enough, so

1319
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 4: you need to get for example, these aren't the people,

1320
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 4: he said, but for example, you need to get more Chestnut,

1321
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 4: Difficult Fox, you know, Jada Pinken Smith, somebody that black

1322
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 4: people will be like, oh, I know them from this,

1323
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,919
Speaker 4: so they can say from said it off her from

1324
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 4: this him, and we're like, okay, Ben, we ain't gotta

1325
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 4: be the stars. We can we can do that. And

1326
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 4: we also watch plays. We outside of Tyler, everybody did this.

1327
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 4: Tyler was the only one who was like he is

1328
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 4: the star person. Yeah, and he's like, all right, So

1329
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 4: all y'all need is three hundred thousand dollars cash.

1330
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: We were like, nigga, you could have said that at

1331
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: the beginning.

1332
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 4: We didn't't even have to go nowhere else at that time,

1333
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 4: not kidding you, Jay, we probably did not have three

1334
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 4: thousand dollars combined in our saving and he wanted three.

1335
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 4: I could have sold my house and I still would

1336
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 4: have three thousand dollars because we was upside down.

1337
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: I actually have less because our house was upside down

1338
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: at the time. Actually owe the baked forty thousand dollars

1339
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: if I sold my house. So we don't want to

1340
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: do that. Need to hold on to that.

1341
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 3: Housing marker was upside down.

1342
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: This is eight.

1343
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 4: Housing marker was upside down. We had a mortgage like

1344
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 4: one eighty seven and at that time the house was

1345
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 4: worth one thirty seven.

1346
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: Ready, you don't buy anything for one eighty seven, Okay,

1347
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: that should tell you you what. Eighty seven five was

1348
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: our first house. Eighty seven sounds like that. It was

1349
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: gonna kill y'all. I was gonna kill y'all. Man, how

1350
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: about you over the house. I'll give you one ninety Okay,

1351
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: actually pay more, just so we we get away from

1352
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: this one in seven things you didn't know. I didn't know.

1353
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 4: You're not from the streets. I'm not from the streets.

1354
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 4: I'm I'm from a military basis. It is safe out there,

1355
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 4: we are saying. So at that time, I was about

1356
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 4: to quit. I was like, we done lost this due

1357
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 4: forty thousand dollars, the next do nineteen thousand dollars. We

1358
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 4: can't make money doing this. We can't go to Oakland

1359
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 4: and put a player for three hundred thousand dollars. There's

1360
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 4: not enough black people in Seattle, Tacoma or Portland. Oakland

1361
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 4: is impossible. You gotta rent trucks and drive down there.

1362
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 4: We gotta, you know, so mind you this time when

1363
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 4: we lost the money, I want to be clear, we

1364
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 4: paid every the investor lost, but every actor had to come.

1365
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 3: They got paid, and I remember, I'll never.

1366
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 4: Forget this day. We paid an actor like one thousand dollars.

1367
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 4: My mortgage was around one thousand dollars and she came

1368
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 4: by the house to pick up her check and I

1369
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 4: had the cashers check for her. And it was so

1370
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 4: hard to let that check go.

1371
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 3: Like I held it for a minute, Jake.

1372
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: Because I'm this She was like, nigga my bread, because I'm.

1373
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 4: Handing you my mortgage mortgage and we made nothing, like

1374
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 4: we didn't pay ourselves. We didn't make a dime, but

1375
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 4: everybody got paid.

1376
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:31,439
Speaker 1: That was part.

1377
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 3: This is the real information.

1378
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 4: Yes, bro, nobody everybody wants to be a boss. But

1379
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 4: boss got to write a check. Don't mean they got

1380
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 4: a check. Boss gotta go lock up the soundstage when

1381
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 4: somebody came like this is what a boss does. They

1382
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 4: take the risk and sometimes you lose. Most times, most.

1383
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: Times you even right now, Jay Valentina, and keep it

1384
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: with you. I'm doing my Grief Sucks for Jay Valentine.

1385
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: You got a good name that hey, you didn't put

1386
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: ass on it, jaymen Valentine's and no James Valentine, Jay

1387
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: Valley time.

1388
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 4: But I'm doing my Grief Sucks tour workshop. I'm only

1389
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 4: selling you know, one hundred dollars, one hundred seats you know,

1390
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 4: for ten dollars, I'm still paying my tour manager his

1391
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 4: full rate, my photographer his full rate. I'm literally losing

1392
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 4: money to make sure this show is good. He's doing

1393
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 4: a promo run. I'm doing promo run because I don't

1394
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 4: want to go into selling a thousand seats and the

1395
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 4: show is not good yet, so I got to work

1396
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 4: it out low key. But that don't mean my people

1397
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 4: expect to be paid less.

1398
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 1: So that's me.

1399
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 4: I'm still investing into myself. But at that time, when

1400
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 4: we lost that play, I was about to quit. I

1401
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 4: literally prayed to God. I said, God, just if I'm

1402
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 4: not going to make it, just take the desire away,

1403
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 4: take the desire to be good, be a comedian, be

1404
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 4: a play, just take the desire way. I will work

1405
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 4: my job at Boeing, i will coach my son's basketball team,

1406
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 4: and I'm not even I won't even be upset.

1407
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: Like we know we'll have We had a good time.

1408
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 1: You know, we'll have cook outside my house. You know,

1409
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: we had some homegirls. My sister in law was on

1410
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: Section eight. We had plenty of states sponsored barbecues at

1411
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,919
Speaker 1: my house. The finest selections the state of Washington. Again,

1412
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: my brother used to work at the State of Washington.

1413
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: He used to finagle the system for food stamps. Stop

1414
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: he's niching on there's there's there's no statute limitations on

1415
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 1: the dead man.

1416
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 3: This nigga was feeding the hood.

1417
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: He would sell you a thousand dollars worth of food

1418
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: stamps cash and you can sell it back to him.

1419
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: I can't wait for Booth like a video about you, Boots. Yeah,

1420
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 1: about you being a rat is gonna be on your

1421
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: asss man, But we were living a good life. I'm like, God,

1422
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: just just be there. Yeah, just just let me be regular.

1423
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: Just if you're not gonna do it, then just I

1424
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 1: don't want to dream about it. I don't want to

1425
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: think about it. I want to daydream about it.

1426
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 4: Y'all doing that Boeing, I was a scheduler. My wife

1427
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 4: was in procurement, so she's buying parts and stuff on

1428
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 4: the military plane. I essentially was a glorified data entry specialist.

1429
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 4: Buying a plane at Boeing is low key, not that

1430
01:06:58,200 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 4: much different from buying a toilet camera.

1431
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 3: You say, okay, I want this, you know.

1432
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 4: Seven thirty seven is the program I worked on that's

1433
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 4: basically the size of a Southwest plane seven thirty seven,

1434
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 4: nine hundred extended range. That's a Southwest plane that can

1435
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 4: go from LA to New York. Most of them only

1436
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 4: go two or three hours. The big ones can go,

1437
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 4: you know, the whole distance of the United States.

1438
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 3: So are you g fire classified?

1439
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: No?

1440
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 4: She was though she actually had security clearance because she worked.

1441
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 3: On I'm gonna ask your wife after, Yeah, aliens are real.

1442
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 4: She worked on a naval basically a naval seven thirty

1443
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 4: seven that it was a Southwest plane with missiles.

1444
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 1: On it, right Like, she literally asked her, then, I'm

1445
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: gonna ask you after because I'm gonna tell the truth

1446
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: because you're a snick. I am your honor. My point

1447
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 1: fingers strong him. Let me wink and make sure it

1448
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: was him, you're honor.

1449
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 3: How long did it take to make a profit for you?

1450
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 2: Who?

1451
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 3: A profit?

1452
01:07:54,560 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: Wow? See? We started, man, what's the first profit that

1453
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 1: we made? Was it?

1454
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 4: LA? So twenty thirteen is probably when we made any

1455
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 4: money that we could actually put into our pocket. We

1456
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 4: started plays doing anything like that probably in two thousand

1457
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 4: and two, So I probably didn't make a dime for

1458
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 4: eleven years. For eleven years, just pure and yeah, from

1459
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 4: pure investment and taking my money from Boeing and the

1460
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 4: bank paying for plays, using my first YouTube money to

1461
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 4: upgrade my camera equipment or laptop or whatever. It took

1462
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 4: a long time. And like I said, when we first

1463
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 4: made that fifty thousand from Tracy Edmonds, fifteen went to

1464
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 4: the credit card. We split the other three. Then we

1465
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 4: had to pay people to act and edit and buy.

1466
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 4: We had bought computers to be able to edit and

1467
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 4: know deliver. So I don't think we even really I

1468
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 4: mean technically to profit. But it was probably like in

1469
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 4: the bank, made money, maybe one thousand dollars.

1470
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: Wow. If that so, what's the sign for you as

1471
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: you ask God, either take it away from me or

1472
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: give me something that shows me It.

1473
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 4: Was incremental progress. When I prayed that prayer, I was

1474
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 4: ready to quit. And then I saw video that changed.

1475
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 4: There was in twenty twelve YouTube videos that were going

1476
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 4: viral or it was stuff black stuff girl say, and

1477
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 4: it became you know, first of some white girl say,

1478
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 4: then it stuff black girls who looked like white girl say,

1479
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 4: Francesca Lee did that.

1480
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 3: This sounds like looking up porn.

1481
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:35,640
Speaker 4: This is you know, And I remember Billy Sarels was

1482
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 4: a comedian high seen perform at Nate Jackson's comedy club.

1483
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 3: He did stuff. Black Girl say He's.

1484
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 4: Hilarious, and that video did like nine million views, and

1485
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 4: at that time that was like a platinum and seeing

1486
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 4: somebody I knew make it was different than people I

1487
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 4: didn't know. So I told my brother and aunt, I said,

1488
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 4: nobody's done stuff. Black Church girl say, that's our lane,

1489
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 4: and nobody's done stuff. Black parents say, we actually try

1490
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 4: to get our wives to be in the Black Girl

1491
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 4: saying otherwise, like, absolutely not. I'm not an actor. What

1492
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,560
Speaker 4: are you talking about? So we put on wigs just

1493
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 4: like Tyler. We did for a little bit. Jay, I

1494
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 4: retired them.

1495
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,640
Speaker 3: I know, I know you were addressed too.

1496
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 4: I don't want to address. I just did with regular

1497
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 4: clothes on.

1498
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 3: You know, it's the internet. I know they'll find you.

1499
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: Ritual, right, That's why I took Yeah, nigga, Hollywood, how

1500
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: Hollywood get to me?

1501
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 2: I live?

1502
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 3: I'm doing this for free.

1503
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 1: The third eye on the side, third eye activates the

1504
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: light beams. You got to overstand, brother, that's what the

1505
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: man wants you to Dotand but at that time it

1506
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: wasn't even negative. It was Tyler was doing it.

1507
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 4: Martin, Like I grew up watching Martin Flip Wilson, all

1508
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 4: these people, big mama's house, all this stuff. That's how

1509
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 4: you were funny. But we really only did it because

1510
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:52,799
Speaker 4: our wife said.

1511
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 3: No, it's literally it, so we did there again.

1512
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: That wasn't.

1513
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 4: So those two videos Jay both went viral, both over

1514
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 4: a million views because it's humiliation.

1515
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:17,640
Speaker 1: And I actually don't even think we got paid off

1516
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: those because we didn't even may never get paid brother.

1517
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 3: That's it a humiliation for free, for free brother.

1518
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, at that point, those videos going million views,

1519
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 4: people start trying to book us, and that was enough.

1520
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, now I almost immediately started my

1521
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 4: own personal page because I was immediately like, I don't

1522
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 4: want to just do church stuff. I know I've been

1523
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 4: in church my whole life. We're gonna run out of

1524
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 4: material very quickly there. But to answer your question, I

1525
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 4: was just like, you know, Kep on stage. First, it

1526
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 4: was I want to get to one hundred views because

1527
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 4: mind you, on my playmaker's page, we're getting a one

1528
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 4: hundred a million, seven hundred thousand, six hundred thousand all.

1529
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 4: And then my son's also in the game. He did

1530
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 4: he's going viral as the five year old comedian. He's

1531
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:01,640
Speaker 4: doing a million views with you.

1532
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 3: Joe Jackson too? Are you jealous as your man?

1533
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 1: I see all this, all this stuff is man, that's funny,

1534
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 1: Janet Connect, that's funny.

1535
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 3: Connect.

1536
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 4: So my playmakers is killing, My son's killing. He gets

1537
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,839
Speaker 4: to deal with Austin's TV. He books a little Rascals

1538
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 4: movie Kevi on stage page. I cannot crack one hundred

1539
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 4: views for probably a year or two. Then I was like, okay,

1540
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,560
Speaker 4: I'm up to between one hundred and five hundred, and

1541
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, I'm gonna get to a thousand one day.

1542
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 4: Two years a thousand, I'm like, wow, pushing, pushing. I

1543
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 4: probably didn't get to I just hit a million followers

1544
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:47,560
Speaker 4: like last year. I thought that was impossible, but I

1545
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 4: was just like, incremental growth, incremental growth, I'm gonna get it.

1546
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get to a hundred thousand.

1547
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: And see it.

1548
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 4: I can see it. And I'm working a regular job.

1549
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 4: So I think that's another thing that was key for me.

1550
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 4: I worked a regular job job so I could build this.

1551
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 4: I wasn't trying to make this my job, because that

1552
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 4: was it was gonna take too long. Nowadays you can

1553
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 4: actually make money faster, But at that time, you could

1554
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 4: only get paid on YouTube. You can only post videos

1555
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 4: on YouTube. No such thing as a brand deal for

1556
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 4: the common person. You got to get so much to

1557
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 4: even be a YouTube partner and get some cash. Like

1558
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,560
Speaker 4: I was really hustling for the game. And then the

1559
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 4: crazy thing is I get a job at All Death

1560
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 4: And this is twenty thirteen and I'm the head of

1561
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 4: talent and content over there, and I'm seeing people really

1562
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 4: get bread. I remember, I'm paying influencers from the company's money.

1563
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 4: We would control these big accounts. Like you want to

1564
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 4: promote a movie, you give us, say seven hundred thousand

1565
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 4: dollars to split a month's black influencers. Yeah, this is

1566
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 4: the time when Vinyl was popular. I'm handing this white

1567
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,759
Speaker 4: girl a check for seventy five thousand dollars to promote

1568
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 4: this movie. She makes this six point five second vine

1569
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 4: in one take in our office five seventy five, and

1570
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 4: they're like, hey, can I submit my invoice right now?

1571
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 4: Approved approved that she made more more in literally six

1572
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 4: seconds than I made that year and was out. So

1573
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 4: it's just like handing that check to see it. I

1574
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 4: got to see these people come in and get this

1575
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 4: straight cash, and this is no hate, this is for

1576
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 4: me inspiration. I'm like, Okay, that's more than I'm making

1577
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 4: a year. I have this talent, but at that time,

1578
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 4: I'm not competing with the people that work are working

1579
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 4: with the company. I know enough to not get in

1580
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 4: the way of company business because I got fired before

1581
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 4: for doing that. So I'm just watching and seeing how

1582
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 4: these people build their businesses, how they take this money,

1583
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 4: how they make this money. We're paying them one hundreds

1584
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 4: thousand dollars to do a show. They work for a week,

1585
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 4: one hundred thousand dollars gone, they don't even have to

1586
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 4: promote it. And I'm like, oh, I'm gonna stay until

1587
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 4: i can be that person. You know what I'm saying.

1588
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 4: So up close, I saw it happen for other people,

1589
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 4: which meant it can happen for me. It's possible. It's

1590
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 4: possible because you can't outwork me. That's really the thing.

1591
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:01,560
Speaker 4: You might be funnier than me, you probably will not

1592
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 4: outwork me. You you won't post as much as I post.

1593
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 4: I have infinite ideas. I'll work with other people if

1594
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:13,520
Speaker 4: they and together will have infinite ideas. And I'm just relentless.

1595
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 4: That's really my greatest skill. I'm really relentless.

1596
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 3: And you have to be in this day and age,

1597
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:25,759
Speaker 3: right like there is no one hit record. You gotta

1598
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 3: have ten.

1599
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:29,560
Speaker 4: Low key j That's what teaching. That's what posting a

1600
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 4: video every day has really taught me. No matter how

1601
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 4: good that video is, if you post every day, what

1602
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 4: I did yesterday doesn't matter. And if I have a

1603
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 4: bad day, three videos today. I did nothing today, I

1604
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 4: posted really hit. Well tomorrow I got two or three

1605
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 4: more shots.

1606
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: Some gonna hit.

1607
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 4: And then I get to the point where I ain't

1608
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 4: had a hit in five days. I'm I'm out. I

1609
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 4: ain't funny no more. My day's a numbered.

1610
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 1: Is that how you look at Oh my god, you'd

1611
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 1: be stressed. I'd be like my families, kids is going

1612
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 1: to the streets. Cripts are on the way, crips are

1613
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: on the way. That can recruit myself. Your daddy ain't

1614
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: nothing no more. Come over here, young blood, do this

1615
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 1: little robbery for me. I got five hundred cribs. Don't

1616
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 1: say you know what, It's fine, dang you right, that's

1617
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 1: my homies.

1618
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 4: But I get in my head immediate right, right, and

1619
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 4: it's been like that for years. Like, I feel like

1620
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 4: that rat race is not healthy, but you know, neither

1621
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 4: is my obsession. I'm just going hard.

1622
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm one of those people that don't.

1623
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 1: I don't.

1624
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 3: I don't subscribe to the the rat race ain't healthy. Really,

1625
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:38,560
Speaker 3: I'm in it. I it, we get in to it.

1626
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 3: I love that what we're doing.

1627
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 1: Wait, nigga, you chilling for really?

1628
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 3: I love that you know, one thing shifts and were

1629
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 3: back in the projects.

1630
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: I know that that's literally how I feel like. I

1631
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: think for me also too right. I you know, I

1632
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 1: come from a very interesting that ground and you know

1633
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 1: I'm still so close to it. Still take jail calls

1634
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 1: to this day. Oh dang, oh yeah yeah. When my

1635
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 1: phone went off earlier, we had to stop. I probably

1636
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: it might have been press five.

1637
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 3: If you accept this call. This is real life for me.

1638
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 5: Wow.

1639
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 1: I understand and have a respect for the space that

1640
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:26,640
Speaker 1: I'm in and a respect for what it takes to

1641
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 1: stay in this space and the work that I have

1642
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 1: to continue to put in. Yes, I have a lot

1643
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 1: of conversations with counterparts that are like, man, why would

1644
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: you want to stay in California? Because it forces me

1645
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 1: to go home.

1646
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 4: Did we not say this? Jay? My wife said you

1647
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 4: want to move? I kid you not I have said

1648
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 4: this thing. Bro, I come and I see what other

1649
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 4: people have. And I know if I moved to say,

1650
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 4: you know, we ain't got got another place, place costant,

1651
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 4: a place where cost living is lower.

1652
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 1: No to suspect anybody, because I know I wouldspect for sure.

1653
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 1: I was about to be like Idaho and I'm not

1654
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: going to Wyoming. Stop, ain'tgas there like that? Probably two

1655
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 1: or three nigga we out here.

1656
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:30,959
Speaker 3: It's right to the big w big du on horseback

1657
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 3: and get out of there.

1658
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 1: All right?

1659
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 4: So these places, But if I moved to a place

1660
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 4: where the cost living is more reasonable, I know I

1661
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 4: would be like, I'm.

1662
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 1: Good, right, I'm good. But and I've watched people do

1663
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:45,640
Speaker 1: They've been very successful in California go to some of.

1664
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 3: These places and be like, where are they now? Yeah?

1665
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 1: And they still cool, they still pay their rent, are

1666
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 1: they mortgage? But are they truly competing?

1667
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 5: No?

1668
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 3: Some are and some aren't.

1669
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 1: Right, And it took from me to randomly end up

1670
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: at a very successful person's house. You know, they might

1671
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 1: not want their name, sure, gramulator, who I was like

1672
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 1: this is incredible. Yeah, and I know what this house

1673
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: costs for sure in California, this house is thirty five

1674
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 1: thousand square feet. Jesus in California, it's thirty million forty right,

1675
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 1: or you made it and no, no, no, you know

1676
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I'm like, well, you made it.

1677
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: But that's how I be.

1678
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1679
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 4: I shoot at some of these houses sometimes, you you know,

1680
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 4: we do like a Spectrum commercial. They rent that house

1681
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 4: and I look it up and it's in Sino, for example,

1682
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 4: twenty five million dollars. And I'm like, man, I don't

1683
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 4: even know how to get to that that's possible. But somebody,

1684
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 4: somebody rents this out once a month and pays their

1685
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 4: mortgage for that month, because I know what these what

1686
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 4: the business.

1687
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 1: Of it is.

1688
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they got family pictures in the room, like

1689
01:19:58,880 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 3: this ain't no set house.

1690
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, they go, this is my child's room meaningless A

1691
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 4: shot a commercial earlier this year, and I'm like, these

1692
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 4: are these are children's toys.

1693
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 3: This kid lives here for me.

1694
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 1: Man. It just pushes it just pushes me to you know,

1695
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 1: to continue this, to strive for it and just have

1696
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:20,640
Speaker 1: the energy, because that's the other thing I'm one of

1697
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 1: those people too, like I'm and I don't know if

1698
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 1: you're like this, I'm never retiring, never ever, like I'll

1699
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 1: go do some other ship. Never.

1700
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 3: I'm not retiring. I'm never Just what's Jay doing?

1701
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 2: Oh?

1702
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 3: You know Jay over in the room, which just you know,

1703
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 3: pinnic coolatta every day?

1704
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 5: Not me?

1705
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 4: That would not the way people ask me, like how

1706
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 4: do you do this every day? And I say, how

1707
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 4: does a fish swim every day? I am a fish swimming.

1708
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 4: This is what I was born to do. And I

1709
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 4: spent them years in that in that cubicle, about to

1710
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 4: be depressed because I could only at that time, I

1711
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:58,560
Speaker 4: could only do it on my ten minute break, my

1712
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 4: lunch break before work, after work. Now I can do

1713
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:04,720
Speaker 4: it anytime. When we moved here, we rented our house out.

1714
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 4: And the part of the reason we made it is

1715
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 4: because we had nowhere else to go. I signed that

1716
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 4: nigg We signed that nigga to at least for a year.

1717
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 4: I can't go back to Washington. I'm not going to

1718
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 4: North Carolina live with my parents.

1719
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 3: But North Carolina is in this too.

1720
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, my parents, five or six other we all of them.

1721
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 1: Carolina, North Carolina.

1722
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 4: My parents we gotta may I go too. I have

1723
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 4: nowhere else to go. And that back against the wall

1724
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 4: was like really like and that mindset is still here.

1725
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 4: I still be like, man, just like you said if

1726
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 4: I if I fall off, I'm going to be back

1727
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 4: at Boweling. You know, I'm gonna be back in that

1728
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 4: cubicle going is.

1729
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,599
Speaker 1: It's actually a really good company. It's not like now

1730
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 1: for me back as such as no, no no, But

1731
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 1: I can't.

1732
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 4: For me, I can't think of like if I got

1733
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 4: to ask for time off, I will disintegrate, hm because

1734
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 4: I remember at my bank job, my manager, I had

1735
01:21:56,920 --> 01:22:00,560
Speaker 4: a show with Miami paid one and I didn't have

1736
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 4: no more time off, So I just went and I

1737
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 4: called off from.

1738
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 3: The airport in Miami. Of course she did.

1739
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,919
Speaker 4: And when I'm calling off, I didn't even go outside.

1740
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 4: She here's the gate announcement. I'm like, yeah, I'm sorry,

1741
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 4: that's your call. I'm faxing, Yeah, Joane, I can't. I'm

1742
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 4: not now boarding flight forty six to Las Vegas. She said,

1743
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:28,759
Speaker 4: are you at the airport?

1744
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 2: No TV?

1745
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 4: She called me, She said, Kevin, I know, I know

1746
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 4: what you're doing.

1747
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1748
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 4: If you would have just asked, I would have let

1749
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 4: you go. Now I'm riding you up, and I'm like,

1750
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:43,640
Speaker 4: she'll call off on Saturday. She should have called off

1751
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 4: from the hotel.

1752
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 1: But the Lord, yes, you're not supposed to be there.

1753
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 1: I can't, but I can't. You told me no, I

1754
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 1: ain't had no more time off.

1755
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 3: I got a gig.

1756
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 4: I'm getting eighty five dollars in Miami.

1757
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 1: Baby, speaking speaking of the Lord, I got to get

1758
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:02,719
Speaker 1: it secular, our gospel for music for you as an adult,

1759
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 1: now that you can pick it, because I'm sure you.

1760
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 3: Were growing up you couldn't pick.

1761
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 4: I couldn't pick. I gotta I listened to all the time.

1762
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 4: I probably listened to more secular music now than gospel.

1763
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:15,640
Speaker 1: I become.

1764
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 3: That old head who feels like man Mecca the nineties

1765
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 3: early two that was the best gospel music ever.

1766
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: It could be.

1767
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 4: So I listened to a lot like that about gospel,

1768
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 4: about gospel.

1769
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 1: Okay.

1770
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 4: I feel like a couple of things happened, mainly for me.

1771
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 4: Gospel radio was a big part of my life, and

1772
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 4: slowly gospel radio stations stopped being on terrestrial radio. When

1773
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 4: I was in North Carolina, it was twenty four hour

1774
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 4: gospel station. They eventually stopped and to come to Washington.

1775
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 4: We didn't really have full gospel. We had like Spirit,

1776
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 4: which was like CCM music, and we had gospel on Sundays.

1777
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 4: They didn't even have that. And then at that time

1778
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 4: I was going to church every single Sunday. CCM, that's

1779
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 4: white people, that's white people. Okay, Yeah, sometimes black people

1780
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,600
Speaker 4: take the white people songs and make them black and

1781
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 4: then they be good. But the white people get through

1782
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,640
Speaker 4: publishing and stuff, so they'd be like, go on, take

1783
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 4: that money, because I'm get confront of the white people

1784
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 4: and the black people. But for the most part, I'm

1785
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 4: still listening to mostly secular music, and if it's gospel,

1786
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 4: I listen to all kirks new stuff. I listened to

1787
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 4: Johnathan Reynold's new stuff. There's still people, yeah, I listen to,

1788
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 4: but I'm more likely listen to old John Pikey, old

1789
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,599
Speaker 4: Haze Kywalker, old Mary Mary Ti tri Bid. I listen

1790
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 4: to his new stuff, but I'm kind of stuck in

1791
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 4: my ways the same way. I still listen mostly nineties

1792
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 4: R and B, but there is more new R and

1793
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 4: B artists that I'm listening to.

1794
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 3: So okay, So moving into R and B now that

1795
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 3: you've grown radio versions are not.

1796
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:41,480
Speaker 1: Clean. The dirties.

1797
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 4: Mostly dirty for me. Now, don't cuss, Melissa, don't cuss. Listen,

1798
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,680
Speaker 4: really don't cuss. I don't cuss.

1799
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:53,559
Speaker 3: You cuss a little bit.

1800
01:24:54,760 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 4: I don't cuss by text amongst close friends, but not publicly.

1801
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,639
Speaker 4: But listen, really don't cush. She don't even play.

1802
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: So y'all don't cuz. But y'all listening to the dirty verse.

1803
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely you're listening to the dirty verse. Okay, some of them.

1804
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 4: Songs you just grew up on the clean didn't even

1805
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 4: know there were dirty versions of songs. But for the

1806
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 4: most part, I'm listening to the dirty now, almost exclusively.

1807
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 4: I don't really download clean albums some more because the

1808
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 4: thing that I was thinking, I used to feel so

1809
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:25,879
Speaker 4: bad about listening to the dirty version of the albums.

1810
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:28,760
Speaker 4: But R rated movies Game of Thrones, I didn't feel

1811
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 4: no way about that. Huh, didn't even cross my mind.

1812
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 4: But music, I was like, now I'm choosing this Game

1813
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 4: of throwns.

1814
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: They made it the way.

1815
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 3: There's no clean version of that.

1816
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,719
Speaker 1: Okay, in your house. You could watch r raty movies

1817
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: in my house, absolutely not, Okay. I'm talking about like

1818
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:45,679
Speaker 1: when I went to homies stuff like that in my home.

1819
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:52,680
Speaker 1: No secular music, zero none ever, why though it was

1820
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 1: the devil? It was the devil to my family. That's

1821
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 1: the whole needed Baker joke about me.

1822
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 4: People don't understand, like we were churchy for My dad

1823
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 4: got mad at me because I asked one time, okayn,

1824
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,640
Speaker 4: I listen to jazz. Jazz don't have no words. He

1825
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 4: said them notes might be about the devil. I said,

1826
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 4: all right, man, he dead serious. It's a wild notes

1827
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 4: bycause the niggas is yeah.

1828
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 1: Good, but yeah.

1829
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 4: My dad, even Will Smith, just the two of us,

1830
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 4: he was like, that ain't gospel. I'm like he was

1831
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 4: talking about his sons. They were like, no, I remember

1832
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 4: I had the TLC Red Light Special. I had that album.

1833
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 4: I think it was crazy, sexy cool. My homie let

1834
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:33,799
Speaker 4: me listen to it. I had my own walkman walking

1835
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:35,600
Speaker 4: with my dad. He's like, what do you listen to?

1836
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 4: I was like, oh no, none of my friends. Just

1837
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 4: gave it to me.

1838
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 1: He took it from me.

1839
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 4: Red Light Special took this tape out, threw it on

1840
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:46,719
Speaker 4: the ground, smashed it. Yes, and I love that album.

1841
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 3: And he was like absolutely he knew what they was

1842
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 3: talking about I knew too.

1843
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 1: You know, I loved that video when they was in

1844
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:57,560
Speaker 1: the Floyd clothes, I said, oh my god, yeah, I

1845
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 1: like this slighty slide. I went the slight slide. But no,

1846
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 1: when I got grown, I bought the sad ship it was.

1847
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 1: I had them for about three months. Like they're too slidy.

1848
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 1: We had it for a while too. They had some

1849
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 1: gold satin sheets. Bro, they always came off the bed.

1850
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 3: Bro, it's terrible. It's terrible.

1851
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 4: There's yeah, it seems because for your wife's hair, But no,

1852
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 4: it's not. It's not practical at all, but mostly mostly

1853
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 4: dirty R and B. Now I don't buy the clean

1854
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 4: out albums some more, but it's too crazy. I'll be like,

1855
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 4: who Jesus? But rarely I beat it, beat it up.

1856
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 4: That was for me at that time in my life.

1857
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 3: It's fair, Bro. Yeah, we're friends now, we're friends now, Man,

1858
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 3: I get it.

1859
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 2: I get it.

1860
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 3: Okay.

1861
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 1: We talked about you modeling a lot of things you

1862
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 1: do with like Tyler Perry and how he built his businesses.

1863
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:00,640
Speaker 1: Do you look at the music industry at all with

1864
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 1: how we've done business from an independent standpoint? Oh? Absolutely,

1865
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 1: I have to implement that.

1866
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 4: One thousand percent. I followed Chance the rapper free music.

1867
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 4: I'll make the money on merch on the road, you

1868
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 4: got to give away something to get people to consider

1869
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 4: buying something. So he gives away music or beyond or whatever.

1870
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 4: In the streaming era, I mean back in the day

1871
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 4: you actually used to sell music, but now I got

1872
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:24,879
Speaker 4: to give it away.

1873
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 1: Selling it or they said they were selling, like.

1874
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 3: Sliding the candy bar number the bar code. Oh we's

1875
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 3: on the album.

1876
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 4: But yeah, you think about I mean, musicians, really, they

1877
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 4: gotta work, You gotta I'm on the road, just like

1878
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 4: musicians say, if you're only gonna make money for you're

1879
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 4: on the road. To this day, still touring is the

1880
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:51,560
Speaker 4: the greatest pure profit part of my business. Lowess, overhead,

1881
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:58,679
Speaker 4: best return. Television is very expensive. Making movies is very expensive,

1882
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 4: not great margin. You have to pay a lot of people.

1883
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 3: So what do you what do you do when you

1884
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 3: make your projects?

1885
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 1: Like you make a churchy right, and you you hire actors,

1886
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,759
Speaker 1: production and all these things, Like what are the options

1887
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 1: for you as a businessman after you have this ip,

1888
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 1: you have this body of work, Like in your mind,

1889
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:26,599
Speaker 1: what's the first thing you're you're thinking, Okay, where am

1890
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 1: I taking this?

1891
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 4: So the first Churchie was I'm making this to be

1892
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 4: on my app. Okay, that was gonna be to distribute

1893
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 4: your model. Hopefully I'll have enough subscribers to stay along

1894
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 4: that I can. Kevin Stage Studio ars in Peace. It's

1895
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:42,760
Speaker 4: one of the big app store in the sky now.

1896
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 4: It died in twenty twenty three, twenty four. It was

1897
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 4: a good run, but I found that I had the

1898
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 4: same problem Netflix, HBO, Disney plus you got the same

1899
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 4: problem they got everybody.

1900
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1901
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 4: We all struggling with y'all the big boys Netflix. I

1902
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 4: understand burn rate y'all. You know, but most people ain't

1903
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 4: paying every month.

1904
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 1: They're not.

1905
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:07,440
Speaker 3: They share passwords.

1906
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:09,600
Speaker 4: But the big difference between Netflix and me is they

1907
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 4: got endless capital to burn.

1908
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 3: He was getting mad when.

1909
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:18,760
Speaker 1: I would run into people and they would be joking, Sorry, keV,

1910
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 1: I've seen Churchy.

1911
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 4: But then you know I'm sharing on my mom's playing.

1912
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 4: I'd be like, yeah, nigga, all right, that killing me, brother,

1913
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 4: it's six one nigga paid for it. That's five dollars.

1914
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 4: Once the niggas like, I'm I can't. I had to

1915
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 4: do it, have enough fights on your app? Oh bro,

1916
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 4: all right, you gotta have a lot of fights in

1917
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:39,640
Speaker 4: your And that's the thing Jay, We would me and

1918
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:42,720
Speaker 4: Melissa couldn't do it. She produced a show called Love

1919
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 4: on Stage Jay and until this day that we had

1920
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 4: some footage that would break the Internet. And Melissa was like,

1921
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:51,599
Speaker 4: that's not the type of show I'm trying to make

1922
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:55,680
Speaker 4: and I'm baby girl. They signed the release and she's like,

1923
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 4: I'm not. I'm really trying to find love. That's why

1924
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 4: I realized we not in that game, and that's why

1925
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 4: we couldn't make money. But also for me, as it's

1926
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 4: a moral thing, like for me, I gotta be able

1927
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 4: to stand by what I believe in and what I make.

1928
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 4: And this goes back to even before I made money.

1929
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 4: I mean when I worked at Bank of America man

1930
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 4: low Key during the housing crisis. Prior of the housing crisis,

1931
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 4: niggas were at Bank of America scamming the crap out

1932
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 4: of people like low Key, you can make a lot

1933
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:24,560
Speaker 4: of money. Already wrote about this in my book, so

1934
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:27,680
Speaker 4: it's nothing new. And I was like, already snitch one,

1935
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 4: already snitch one, this one. I'm on paperwork, brother, your honor.

1936
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:35,760
Speaker 4: But I'm like, yo, I live in this neighborhood.

1937
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 1: I can't.

1938
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 4: I can't trick you into a loan because you might

1939
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 4: see me at the pull affair and hit me in

1940
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:44,560
Speaker 4: the head with a brick and be justified. Right, So

1941
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 4: I would actually rather make less money but be able

1942
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 4: to sleep at night. That's why I don't cheat nobody like.

1943
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 4: I'd rather tell you straight up, Jay Valentine, I want

1944
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 4: you to be in my production. I can pay three

1945
01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty dollars to you, right, and that's all

1946
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:00,599
Speaker 4: I got, and let you make the decision then say, okay, man,

1947
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 4: maybe maybe I cut you in. And I know I'm lying.

1948
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 4: I just can't live like that. I'll let you decide

1949
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 4: if the three fifty is worth your time the time

1950
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:09,680
Speaker 4: or not, and that's up to you, right. And if

1951
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 4: I have more eventually, I want to be able to

1952
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 4: have more. But like I told you, bro, like low

1953
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 4: key production is super expensive, like camera, and these prices

1954
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:17,880
Speaker 4: are just going up right now.

1955
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 1: Hard drives went from one hundred and fifty dollars y'all know,

1956
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 1: to like bro, it's it's a thing in our industry.

1957
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 1: Hard drives are like two grand one thousand dollars. It's like,

1958
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:30,599
Speaker 1: and you gotta buy two per day per shot.

1959
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:32,440
Speaker 3: This is a huge.

1960
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 1: Increase over night. It's like AI or something. I don't know.

1961
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 4: There's a whole bunch of talk about hard drives. We

1962
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:38,920
Speaker 4: were on set last week and my head of TV

1963
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,639
Speaker 4: and film didn't know, and he's like, yeah, hey man,

1964
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 4: are you brother? They saying the heart drives are a

1965
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:46,280
Speaker 4: thousand dollars. It was two hundred when we did the

1966
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 4: Ball Brothers. I'm like, yeah, brother, there's something going on.

1967
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 4: There's like not a space, something to do with a

1968
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 4: I remember the exactly we say, bro, And you can't

1969
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 4: race it like this, you gotta back it up three

1970
01:32:57,479 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 4: times there. It's like, I'm about to shoot this show

1971
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 4: on the airport right now. The Iran war affects gas

1972
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 4: prices in Atlanta flight. My last time I was buying

1973
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 4: people five hundred dollars. Now it's twelve hundred dollars. I

1974
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 4: didn't get any more money to produce this. And you

1975
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 4: buy you flying six niggas out hotels. That was one eighties,

1976
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 4: now three hundred.

1977
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 3: It's like bruh.

1978
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 4: So that though, and there's nothing you can do there

1979
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 4: except maybe cast less people. So touring is just this

1980
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 4: grief tour me by myself, tour manager, videographer. Usually I

1981
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:32,439
Speaker 4: carry seven eight people.

1982
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 1: But you can't. I can't hot.

1983
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:38,760
Speaker 4: When you work with Live Nation, they prices Live Nation

1984
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:43,680
Speaker 4: ag out back. These fees are the fees regard. There's

1985
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 4: no negotiation with these companies. This is the fee at

1986
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:48,679
Speaker 4: a church. You can actually work with them. I actually

1987
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 4: can charge much less at a church and make much

1988
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 4: more because there's no fees for the for the venues, parking,

1989
01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:59,599
Speaker 4: all that stuff. Live Nation. That's you got to pay

1990
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:04,680
Speaker 4: Live to sell your merch thirty percent or you can

1991
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 4: go no joke. You can stand outside is what they

1992
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 4: tell you. You don't want to pay stand outside. You

1993
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 4: can sell it for free on the street. It's raining

1994
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:17,680
Speaker 4: thirty percent. Are y'all gonna help sell it? Absolutely not?

1995
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 1: You are you crazy? You can have a corner and

1996
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:24,560
Speaker 1: if you need a table, you gotta buy that. You

1997
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 1: gotta rent the table from now you're selling your match.

1998
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 1: The mob would be easier. At least they were fans

1999
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 1: of the yards Life mentioned. Ain't no fan. I don't

2000
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 1: care what you talk about. I'm taking that bread nigga.

2001
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 1: And I remember at the beginning, I'm like, okay, so

2002
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 1: what's the negotiation. Man was like, there is none. Yeah,

2003
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:50,639
Speaker 1: these are the deal. So that's why I just try

2004
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:51,840
Speaker 1: not to play the game at all.

2005
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:54,680
Speaker 4: That's why I'm grateful to be able to be able

2006
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 4: to go into a church or a comedy club like

2007
01:34:57,320 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 4: low Key. If you can't sell a thousand tickets, you're

2008
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 4: better off being in a comedy club. That's why you

2009
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:05,559
Speaker 4: see big time comedians and comedy clubs. The margins are

2010
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:06,080
Speaker 4: way better.

2011
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:07,679
Speaker 1: But for me, I can't.

2012
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 4: I don't have the time in order I want to

2013
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:12,800
Speaker 4: perform five times. I'm just I just have other stuff

2014
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 4: to do. I can't spend the whole year doing it

2015
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,560
Speaker 4: because I'm doing other stuff. So I actually got to

2016
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,559
Speaker 4: take less money in order to do the other things

2017
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:21,719
Speaker 4: that I want to do. But luckily for me, touring

2018
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:24,560
Speaker 4: isn't the only thing. If I was only touring and

2019
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 4: doing podcasts, I would be in comedy clubs. It's just

2020
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 4: better margins for me to spend five nights in any

2021
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 4: city in America. Lower costs, lower flight, lower hotel, less

2022
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 4: strain on your body. You actually have the morning to

2023
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:39,080
Speaker 4: sleep and rest as you get on the road. Every

2024
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:39,759
Speaker 4: every morning.

2025
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 3: No, you're doing residencies with comedy clubs basically.

2026
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 1: Basically. Yeah. I had a conversation with Jill Scott about that,

2027
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 1: where she was just like, you know, my next tour,

2028
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm pretty much doing residencies.

2029
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:55,479
Speaker 3: And I didn't notice that flyer three nights in DC.

2030
01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:57,640
Speaker 1: But everybody can't do that now, no, no, you know

2031
01:35:57,640 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like and now at the you know

2032
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 1: the tickets that she said, she's earned it in your

2033
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 1: thousands of tickets four nights in a row, and you know,

2034
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:06,800
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't have that much people in one city, right,

2035
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 1: they gotta pay three hundred thousand literally, And that's why

2036
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:11,680
Speaker 1: you got to go to Oakland to go to That's

2037
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:12,919
Speaker 1: why a Vegas residency.

2038
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:15,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you could stay there, yeah, Jay, that'd be

2039
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 4: the pinnacle for me. No travel costs, stay there, boy.

2040
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:21,560
Speaker 4: I remember I used to Sean Stocker used to be

2041
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 4: I used to be flying Vegas on Thursday and see him.

2042
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:25,679
Speaker 1: Going, oh yeah, when they were doing their residents, they would.

2043
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 4: Go Thursday morning, do three nights, come back Monday morning,

2044
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 4: little forty five minute flight from from LA People saw

2045
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 4: that as a negative. I'm like, nag, this is the

2046
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 4: dream I would love to be me and Tony could

2047
01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 4: get a Vegas residency.

2048
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:39,040
Speaker 1: Nigga, So we're there.

2049
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 3: What is your ultimate goal for keV on stage?

2050
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:55,800
Speaker 1: Enterprise? World domination? Come on, man, world domination. You want

2051
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:56,639
Speaker 1: to make a movie, Nigga.

2052
01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 3: All right, Pinky and the Brain, you got to come through.

2053
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 3: What you mean you got a little dream? You mean

2054
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:02,599
Speaker 3: you got a little dream.

2055
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 1: I's the one rolling in the window there. You want

2056
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 1: to be live Nation, My true true everything you hate

2057
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 1: on you actually want to do. You want to be

2058
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 1: your main Jackson.

2059
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:19,960
Speaker 4: My true, true, honest dream would be able would be

2060
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 4: to be able to elevate other black creators who don't

2061
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:27,799
Speaker 4: have it and aren't even in LA. Like my specific

2062
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:31,560
Speaker 4: dream is somebody in Mississippi who is a creative. I

2063
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:33,719
Speaker 4: want to do what people did for me. Like Tracy

2064
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:37,439
Speaker 4: Edmonds believed in us enough that we could move our

2065
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 4: family from Washington to LA because she said, I believe

2066
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:42,400
Speaker 4: in you. You want to make Timovid, I'm gonna give

2067
01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 4: you fifty thousand dollars. And then when we got here,

2068
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 4: she put us up on Game Jay. She used to

2069
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:49,000
Speaker 4: invite me and my wife, my brother and his wife

2070
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:52,960
Speaker 4: to her house, beautiful house, let us the kids swim

2071
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:56,040
Speaker 4: in the pool. She would teach us about the game.

2072
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 3: You offer me a record deal? One did she really? Yeah?

2073
01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 1: I believe that.

2074
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 3: It was just with the situation.

2075
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:09,639
Speaker 4: No, no, I feel you, but nah, like she believed

2076
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 4: in us and she changed our life. And then she

2077
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:12,720
Speaker 4: kept going on.

2078
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:15,720
Speaker 3: With her life and I am a great business woman.

2079
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 1: There.

2080
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 4: Nice taught us everything. Damon Deacon was her business partner.

2081
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:23,719
Speaker 4: He taught us everything. We could ask any question about

2082
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 4: movie making business. He told us everything. They were not

2083
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:29,599
Speaker 4: hoarders of information. And also they taught us when all

2084
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 4: Right TV went under, they were like, God, bless y'all,

2085
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 4: I'm on to my next project, which was a valuable

2086
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:37,280
Speaker 4: lesson for me. Like people can be nice to you,

2087
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:39,759
Speaker 4: treat you well, but if the business ain't the business,

2088
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:43,400
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna take my personal money and make you rich.

2089
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 1: The business we did good business, We were fair, We

2090
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 1: treated you well. She kept us as long as she could.

2091
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 1: When it went under, she went on about her business

2092
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 1: on her own stuff, no harm, no foul.

2093
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 4: But that would be my ultimate dream to be able

2094
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:57,680
Speaker 4: to say, Okay, you got a script, kevil On State

2095
01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 4: Studios is going to produce your script we're going to

2096
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:03,879
Speaker 4: pay you fare. We're gonna produce real opportunities, real opportunity

2097
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:06,320
Speaker 4: because all my life people have done that. I got

2098
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:09,439
Speaker 4: the job at Boeing because a black woman was this

2099
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 4: is part of LinkedIn. She was looking to hire black

2100
01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 4: people at Boing. On my resume at that time, I

2101
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:18,800
Speaker 4: had the last thing was youth pastor and she was like,

2102
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:22,000
Speaker 4: this is probably a black person because I was a

2103
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:24,519
Speaker 4: youth pastor at the time. After getting fired from the bank,

2104
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 4: she gave me a job. I mean I did a

2105
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:28,800
Speaker 4: good interview. Don't don't get me wrong. I can interview

2106
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:30,360
Speaker 4: well every time you give me that job. Nigga, you

2107
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:33,880
Speaker 4: got another nigga now interview Nigga keV is great employee. Nigga,

2108
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 4: don't have to fire me too late. But she changed

2109
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:41,800
Speaker 4: my life. That job allowed me to put my kids

2110
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:44,479
Speaker 4: in private school for a little while in Washington, Melissa

2111
01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:47,640
Speaker 4: got her job. Like black people all have always, at

2112
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:50,040
Speaker 4: every stage looked out for me when they didn't benefit

2113
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:52,920
Speaker 4: at all, but just because they did, and that's what

2114
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:55,240
Speaker 4: I try to do the most. There's nothing that makes

2115
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:57,439
Speaker 4: me happier. I did it at all death, I did

2116
01:39:57,439 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 4: it with keep your distance, nothing makes me happier than

2117
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 4: too elevate people and and introduce them to the world.

2118
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 4: Done with comedians actors like, that's what I feel like.

2119
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:10,680
Speaker 4: I get the most passion. So if I'm old when

2120
01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 4: we retire what we was talking about, I'm not just

2121
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 4: sitting on my butt. I'm like, oh yeah, let' let's

2122
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:17,360
Speaker 4: pick this script up, Let's make this, let's do a

2123
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:20,720
Speaker 4: comedy show, let's produce this person's special. Let's try to

2124
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 4: lend our name to the next crew of creators.

2125
01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 1: So flood his d MS.

2126
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 4: Guys, Well, you can't get in there. No no, If

2127
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 4: I don't follow you, I don't see it. I'm so sorry.

2128
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:34,240
Speaker 4: It's hard to get in contact with me. By design,

2129
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 4: I can't help everybody the.

2130
01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:38,280
Speaker 3: Game keeper that gotta game.

2131
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:43,680
Speaker 4: I want a non gatekeeper, keep creating because I got

2132
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:44,599
Speaker 4: my eye on the pulse.

2133
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 1: I'll d m U. That's usually what happens. I'll find you.

2134
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:50,519
Speaker 1: You got to keep you d m me brother talking,

2135
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find you.

2136
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:57,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Holly, you got all of it.

2137
01:40:58,040 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 1: You still got a card.

2138
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 3: That Taklan and all the cars is caval stage.

2139
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:11,320
Speaker 1: Ain't no numbering, bro, you got a part in the

2140
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 1: black Light at a certain place, the reveal themselves to

2141
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:18,080
Speaker 1: that we'll find you. But I always have new talent

2142
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:20,479
Speaker 1: in every show you've seen, you going to see somebody

2143
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 1: you haven't seen as much as I possibly can. Now,

2144
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 1: that's dope, even though it cost me a lot. Like

2145
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 1: I remember when I was doing Keep It Distance, I

2146
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:27,920
Speaker 1: was like, every single show I have to have a

2147
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:28,640
Speaker 1: black woman on.

2148
01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 4: I've got to find out how to do it. So

2149
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:33,000
Speaker 4: at first I was doing only LA but I ran

2150
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 4: through my list of context real quick and then I realized, Okay,

2151
01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:36,519
Speaker 4: in order to really do this, I got to fly

2152
01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:42,040
Speaker 4: people in from Atlanta, New York, Mississippi, you know, Chicago,

2153
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 4: Detroit because it was important to me to make sure

2154
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 4: that I'm giving back to black women because in my

2155
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:48,840
Speaker 4: black women have given to me. So I got to

2156
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:50,720
Speaker 4: come out of my pocket to do that. But I

2157
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:52,760
Speaker 4: never feel bad about it, And I don't feel bad

2158
01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:55,680
Speaker 4: if you blow past me like we was rocking for

2159
01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 4: a moment, I'm not the owner of your talent. We

2160
01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 4: just get to work together for a time. If you

2161
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 4: blow past me, you blow past me. Trevor Wilas was

2162
01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:06,200
Speaker 4: my Internet all death White dude. He blew past me

2163
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:10,800
Speaker 4: three four times. He's selling six thousand seats specials.

2164
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 3: You still can get some ticket stuff if you want

2165
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:14,080
Speaker 3: to go listen.

2166
01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 1: That's all I can. I can make a phone call.

2167
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 3: I can make a phone.

2168
01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:18,080
Speaker 1: Take my call.

2169
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:22,559
Speaker 3: Let's take my call. That's all I ask. But yeah,

2170
01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 3: that's that.

2171
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:25,160
Speaker 4: That's my actual dream is to be able to use

2172
01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:26,360
Speaker 4: my name to help other people.

2173
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, so let's let's get into some

2174
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:32,000
Speaker 1: R and B. All right, what we got over there

2175
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 1: for him? Rube, we got we got something that uh

2176
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 1: you know that brother by the send to us my

2177
01:42:39,479 --> 01:42:51,080
Speaker 1: wife and we never came you top five man, let me.

2178
01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 5: Know if this is church you finished, R and al

2179
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:01,799
Speaker 5: come niggas saying niggas.

2180
01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:05,400
Speaker 2: We got to know the foutu you go.

2181
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:13,679
Speaker 1: They're wrong. This show what they want to know. Yes,

2182
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:36,320
Speaker 1: this is great, This is fantastic. That's fantastic. Appreciate you take.

2183
01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 3: So as a good brother.

2184
01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:44,880
Speaker 1: Tank was asking, we want to know your top five

2185
01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 1: R and B singers an R and B song. Okay,

2186
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna start with the singers, number singers, Top five

2187
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:57,760
Speaker 1: singers Anita Baker. Okay, that's my og. Grew up on

2188
01:43:57,880 --> 01:44:02,160
Speaker 1: her music. You know, every Saturday you cleaning the house? Yeah,

2189
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:02,720
Speaker 1: what's your mom?

2190
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 4: Put on Baker Rapture. Y'all could listen to that. We

2191
01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:09,680
Speaker 4: could listen to that, right, Anita Bakery. I just had

2192
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:11,880
Speaker 4: to make sure number one, that's the one thing we

2193
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 4: could listen to. It's my honorable mention though, because everything

2194
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 4: I told you was a lie. I could didn't find

2195
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:17,120
Speaker 4: out about Needa Baker until like.

2196
01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:17,800
Speaker 1: Four years ago.

2197
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 4: Literally, my wife threw me under the bus because Spice

2198
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 4: Adams used to make these videos. Right, my wife is

2199
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:28,720
Speaker 4: playing to Needa Baker literally clean up the house on

2200
01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:30,519
Speaker 4: a Saturday, and she plays that song and I'm like,

2201
01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:33,400
Speaker 4: oh man, that's the Spice Adam sound She was like,

2202
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:35,040
Speaker 4: the what turned the music off?

2203
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:35,880
Speaker 5: The what?

2204
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:39,840
Speaker 1: I was like, the Spice Adam sound effect? That's where?

2205
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:40,719
Speaker 1: What is that from?

2206
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:42,559
Speaker 3: Why did I let you come on here?

2207
01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:47,799
Speaker 1: You know what? She was like, You don't know, Anita Baker, ain't.

2208
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:54,160
Speaker 3: Gonna blame me. Blame me this nigga said the Spice

2209
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:54,880
Speaker 3: Adams song.

2210
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 5: You know what?

2211
01:44:55,680 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 3: Okay, Anita Baker Rapture were not even saying this song yet.

2212
01:45:00,479 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 1: You need a Baker, need a Baker. But she actually

2213
01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:05,559
Speaker 1: loves me by the way she is a huge fan

2214
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:07,880
Speaker 1: of mine. We went to her concert to get the

2215
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:10,880
Speaker 1: stage and she was like, young brother keV stand up

2216
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:12,760
Speaker 1: makes Tony Baker mad to this day.

2217
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:15,639
Speaker 4: She called me out. She sold out probably four thousand

2218
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:18,599
Speaker 4: seeds something like that, MGM National Harbor for sold out.

2219
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:21,519
Speaker 4: She's like, you're doing your own independent thing. I appreciate

2220
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 4: you brought us backstage. Got a picture. Tony Baker never

2221
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:26,280
Speaker 4: met her and they got the same last name. So

2222
01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:27,679
Speaker 4: that's my old GS Honorable mention.

2223
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 3: Top five got a lot of like underlying hate in

2224
01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:35,200
Speaker 3: your heart, bro, and pettiness and grudges.

2225
01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:39,040
Speaker 4: I want to stick the knife in.

2226
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:42,519
Speaker 1: Turn it, that's your full it out, Put it in dirt,

2227
01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:47,479
Speaker 1: he's your friend, infection, turn it again, take it out.

2228
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 1: I'm not warm it up.

2229
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:52,080
Speaker 4: I'm not stick it in dirt and fire. I'm not

2230
01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:56,000
Speaker 4: rolling bro. Stevie Wonder, Steve Wonder, Stevie Wonder. Top five

2231
01:45:56,240 --> 01:46:00,280
Speaker 4: R and B Singers Music, Soul Child. I've heard you

2232
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:02,080
Speaker 4: say I love music.

2233
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:04,120
Speaker 3: Social is King R and B in your opinion, right.

2234
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:04,479
Speaker 1: Yes he is.

2235
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:07,840
Speaker 4: Because I don't lie, Jay Valentine, I don't say the

2236
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:08,519
Speaker 4: popular thing.

2237
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:09,920
Speaker 3: I'm uncomfortable with what you saying.

2238
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:12,240
Speaker 1: My whole day. Valentine, I tell you I'm gonna dive

2239
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:14,000
Speaker 1: on you in a minute, but you gotta relax. Just

2240
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:17,639
Speaker 1: Scarby jay I cav.

2241
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:24,720
Speaker 4: I consume so much of music's music from high school on.

2242
01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:28,160
Speaker 4: We had somebody singing his song at our wedding. That's

2243
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:29,639
Speaker 4: just I love his music.

2244
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 1: Right.

2245
01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:33,200
Speaker 3: When y'all do, when y'all renew, y'all vows, y'all gonna

2246
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:33,639
Speaker 3: give music.

2247
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 1: We just did.

2248
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 4: Did we get We didn't get music. We did, we

2249
01:46:37,120 --> 01:46:40,600
Speaker 4: did a her song and and a different song, but

2250
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:42,800
Speaker 4: we didn't get him because we didn't have the breath.

2251
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 4: We didn't want to spend the breath. I didn't reached out.

2252
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the camera, man. I love you music.

2253
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:52,839
Speaker 4: I just want to sing. Just listen on my radio

2254
01:46:53,960 --> 01:47:00,360
Speaker 4: fire albums so Ceebee music, A Baker, Anita Baker Mention,

2255
01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:05,320
Speaker 4: Jasmine Sullivan. I always say this, and this might sound crazy,

2256
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:09,160
Speaker 4: so grateful she didn't sign that gospel album. Her talents

2257
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:11,640
Speaker 4: are better used for R and B music. Okay, I

2258
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 4: think it was so Hotels is one of my favorite

2259
01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:18,679
Speaker 4: albums of all time. It is such a visual storytelling album.

2260
01:47:18,840 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 1: Yes, I love it amazing. It could be amazing work.

2261
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:22,880
Speaker 3: It could be a.

2262
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:24,920
Speaker 1: Movie.

2263
01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:28,120
Speaker 4: It's almost like the Vagina Monologues play where you have

2264
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 4: all these women's different stories.

2265
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:32,200
Speaker 3: Hotels is just beautiful.

2266
01:47:32,439 --> 01:47:34,880
Speaker 1: So you sue his ass if he does a play

2267
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 1: that's similar, because I see where he going with this.

2268
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:45,080
Speaker 4: Usher is in my top five. We kind of grew

2269
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:46,960
Speaker 4: up on his music. Me and Lsten talk about that

2270
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:49,519
Speaker 4: all the time. We grew up on his music, and

2271
01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:53,360
Speaker 4: he's been great from album to album. Confessions is one

2272
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:55,719
Speaker 4: of the greatest albums of all time. He just couldn't

2273
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 4: miss at that time, great performer. Me and Melissa saw

2274
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 4: him maybe three four times was the time we were

2275
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:05,719
Speaker 4: going uter concerts in Vegas, So in essence, he was amazing. Beyonce,

2276
01:48:06,040 --> 01:48:08,840
Speaker 4: you're gonna keep come on, where are you at?

2277
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 1: Now?

2278
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:12,120
Speaker 4: That's the Needa Baker's honorable minch Oh yeah you did.

2279
01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:14,679
Speaker 1: I want to get that out, okay, because I start

2280
01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:17,000
Speaker 1: with your honorable man, my honorable mention, because I don't

2281
01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:20,160
Speaker 1: want to forget the greates. Okay, she made her honorable

2282
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 1: mention because she's so honorable, and she brought you backstage,

2283
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:24,519
Speaker 1: and she brought me backstage.

2284
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:26,519
Speaker 3: You ungrateful to speak is.

2285
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:29,880
Speaker 1: When I'm when I'm finding out this, this whole thing

2286
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:33,160
Speaker 1: is that for then, man, you can't count either.

2287
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:37,600
Speaker 3: I hope your wife do your books. She does, she

2288
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:40,080
Speaker 3: does four, you passed five.

2289
01:48:42,760 --> 01:48:47,679
Speaker 1: Now he doesn't. But okay, that's fine. She's on stage.

2290
01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:51,000
Speaker 1: Baker actually made six, need Baker, she's in She's that's it.

2291
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:57,839
Speaker 1: That's my top five top six. But Beyonce music, Jazon Sullivan,

2292
01:48:57,960 --> 01:49:01,479
Speaker 1: need a Baker, Oh, Stevie, that is six. One of

2293
01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:03,920
Speaker 1: them can be honest. My grandmama Chinese. So my math

2294
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:07,640
Speaker 1: is really good. It's just to let you know this.

2295
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:10,200
Speaker 1: You can make any of those men. But those are

2296
01:49:10,240 --> 01:49:13,120
Speaker 1: my five plus one, five plus one, five plus one. Okay,

2297
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:19,599
Speaker 1: Top five R and B songs okay, SBV Week okay, okay,

2298
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:20,439
Speaker 1: just perfect song.

2299
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:25,400
Speaker 3: I agree, I agree, great Bridge incomplete Cisco.

2300
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:31,000
Speaker 4: I love this song. It's just the perfect song to me.

2301
01:49:31,200 --> 01:49:33,600
Speaker 3: You know who wrote that song? Did you write it?

2302
01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 1: No? I did?

2303
01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:35,280
Speaker 5: Oh.

2304
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:39,840
Speaker 3: I was about to say, who wrote that? Babyface? Mintel Jordan?

2305
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:43,360
Speaker 3: Did he really Motel?

2306
01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:47,080
Speaker 1: He gonna write a Jordan's song? Myntael Jordan is cold.

2307
01:49:47,720 --> 01:49:55,280
Speaker 1: I did not know that Mintel Jordan. Wow, yeah, yeah, wow, I.

2308
01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:57,519
Speaker 3: Want to say he wrote How did you get here too,

2309
01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:03,560
Speaker 3: Devil Corox. Yeah, that's my no way dead serious MATEO Jordan's.

2310
01:50:05,120 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 4: I love Jordan. He's a pastor now, yes, yeah, Manto Jordan.

2311
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:13,439
Speaker 4: Nobody's supposed to be here. Me and Melissa argued about this.

2312
01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:15,720
Speaker 4: Is there a bridge in this song? She said there

2313
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:18,439
Speaker 4: was no bridge. We argue about it on a road

2314
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 4: trip for an hour. She posted about it and I

2315
01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:23,280
Speaker 4: forget who wrote the song with Somebody was like, there's

2316
01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 4: no bridge. I was in the session. We decided it's

2317
01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:29,040
Speaker 4: not a bridge, and she was like, told y'all, so, yeah,

2318
01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:30,920
Speaker 4: nobody's supposed to be here now. The last two are

2319
01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:34,240
Speaker 4: special to me. These are R and B church songs,

2320
01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:37,080
Speaker 4: and these are songs that felt like R and B

2321
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:38,400
Speaker 4: to kids who couldn't listen to.

2322
01:50:38,439 --> 01:50:38,680
Speaker 1: R and B.

2323
01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:42,720
Speaker 4: One is one minute by Mary Mary. It's on their

2324
01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:46,439
Speaker 4: first album Thankful. If you listen to it. Warren Campbell

2325
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:49,080
Speaker 4: or Cam's R and B producer, I know, I know

2326
01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:51,720
Speaker 4: a pastor and a pastor he my pastor. We go

2327
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:54,360
Speaker 4: to that church that is as close to R and B.

2328
01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:57,160
Speaker 4: And you literally could make that about a man, not Jesus,

2329
01:50:57,240 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 4: and it's basically the same song. And the other one

2330
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:01,960
Speaker 4: is need to Know by Dawkins and Dawkins. When I

2331
01:51:02,120 --> 01:51:03,360
Speaker 4: was in eleventh grade.

2332
01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:08,240
Speaker 1: I guys, we skating rink. Youth group was we couldn't grind,

2333
01:51:08,520 --> 01:51:11,880
Speaker 1: but if we could grind, we would have grinded to

2334
01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:12,599
Speaker 1: that song.

2335
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:17,519
Speaker 4: Eric and Anson. Oh my god, Eric Dawkins is my nigga.

2336
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:20,720
Speaker 4: Answer still live in Washington down here, he'd be in

2337
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:23,040
Speaker 4: the studio. He's still over the lawd I run into Eric,

2338
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:27,760
Speaker 4: you know. But for church kids, boy, we were trying

2339
01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:29,600
Speaker 4: to go to the lock in. Girl, wait till they

2340
01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:32,599
Speaker 4: go to sleep. And I ain't praying for you. I'm

2341
01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:33,679
Speaker 4: trying to feel something.

2342
01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 3: I'm so glad that your wife said, yes, he's your wife.

2343
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:41,000
Speaker 1: Could have went.

2344
01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:44,639
Speaker 3: Not even just totally different way. He could have went

2345
01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:45,320
Speaker 3: bad for you.

2346
01:51:47,439 --> 01:51:52,880
Speaker 6: She changed the trajectory by life to the Lord. But

2347
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:57,559
Speaker 6: this amazing black woman my life saying fine, tone, Tony,

2348
01:51:58,439 --> 01:51:59,599
Speaker 6: are you happy now?

2349
01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:04,400
Speaker 1: Threw my hand down. I was like, yes, this is great, bro,

2350
01:52:04,600 --> 01:52:07,080
Speaker 1: for sure, this is great. Okay, my friend. So our

2351
01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:12,200
Speaker 1: next section we have a section of where Tank says

2352
01:52:12,920 --> 01:52:15,920
Speaker 1: he wants you to build a voltrun Yes, and we're

2353
01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:18,679
Speaker 1: old enough, you old enough, you know what I'm saying,

2354
01:52:19,439 --> 01:52:21,680
Speaker 1: you know you on the form like you wanna do

2355
01:52:21,720 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 1: the whole thing where you give us. Uh, who's gonna

2356
01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:31,120
Speaker 1: be a singer? Who's gonna who's gonna give you the performance? Ye?

2357
01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:33,880
Speaker 3: Who's gonna put on the fly ship?

2358
01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:37,840
Speaker 1: Ye? Our fly stuff? I'm sorry, it's okay, fly stuff?

2359
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:40,519
Speaker 1: And who got the passion? All right?

2360
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:45,760
Speaker 4: This is my answer? Okay, okay, y'all feel how y'all feel?

2361
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:51,759
Speaker 4: The singer he's an artist known as B Slade, Be Slave,

2362
01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:52,439
Speaker 4: be Slade.

2363
01:52:52,479 --> 01:52:52,759
Speaker 3: Okay.

2364
01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:55,920
Speaker 4: He used to make gospel under the name of Toname. Yes,

2365
01:52:56,040 --> 01:53:00,240
Speaker 4: he now goes by B Slade. The greatest voice I

2366
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:05,479
Speaker 4: have amazing in my own ears. Yes, I have not

2367
01:53:05,640 --> 01:53:08,680
Speaker 4: heard a voice better than his. I just saw Matt

2368
01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:12,240
Speaker 4: Corey Henry's show. Incredible, incredible, incredible.

2369
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:14,240
Speaker 1: Can do changed his name? Yeah?

2370
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:15,920
Speaker 4: He changed his name to be Slaye a little while ago.

2371
01:53:16,680 --> 01:53:22,879
Speaker 4: That's my personal be Slave, my bad brother. Yeah, be Slave, incredible, incredible,

2372
01:53:22,920 --> 01:53:27,720
Speaker 4: that's my that's my voice. Who's giving me the performance?

2373
01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:30,280
Speaker 4: Who's got the performance style? Performance style?

2374
01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:32,600
Speaker 1: Wait? What do I have?

2375
01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:37,240
Speaker 4: That performance style? The drip, close, passion and the passion. Okay,

2376
01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:41,160
Speaker 4: performance style, I'm going Duran banar.

2377
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:48,120
Speaker 1: A man durand can perform his ass. So I have

2378
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:50,599
Speaker 1: had a black time.

2379
01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:51,560
Speaker 3: You have a great me.

2380
01:53:51,680 --> 01:53:57,559
Speaker 4: Melissa saw him DJing. He didn't even talk DJ Lion Barber.

2381
01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:01,880
Speaker 4: Me and Melissa went out there. This nigga killed, He's

2382
01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:05,760
Speaker 4: saying at our wedding Revournwle he put on a show

2383
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:06,760
Speaker 4: for an hour and a half.

2384
01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 3: Bruh.

2385
01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:11,200
Speaker 4: It was the greatest time ever. Jade was sitting with her.

2386
01:54:11,320 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 4: She's also brilliant. She congratulations brother, Grammy Award winning the

2387
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:21,120
Speaker 4: ram Banar. I love him his live performance. He can

2388
01:54:21,240 --> 01:54:23,519
Speaker 4: do no wrong in my eyes. He's funny even when

2389
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:27,320
Speaker 4: he's not singing. He gets the audience involved. Give me

2390
01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:30,040
Speaker 4: the ram Barnard. You're gonna have a great time style.

2391
01:54:30,240 --> 01:54:31,439
Speaker 4: I'm going Michael Jackson.

2392
01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:36,440
Speaker 1: Okay, silhouette white sox for Dora.

2393
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 3: You canna put it on.

2394
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:38,760
Speaker 4: He gonna spin.

2395
01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:44,520
Speaker 3: He he has multi post signature items.

2396
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:48,880
Speaker 4: Yes, my wife literally said that glove how you make

2397
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:49,960
Speaker 4: white socks a thing?

2398
01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 3: We was all wearing white socks at.

2399
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:55,320
Speaker 1: The Glitter too, and glitter and Penny loafers and Penny

2400
01:54:55,320 --> 01:54:58,000
Speaker 1: loafers and the hat and a thriller jacket and the

2401
01:54:58,160 --> 01:55:01,160
Speaker 1: jacket with the pushdown for dor. Look cool on Mike,

2402
01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:03,840
Speaker 1: don't look cool on me. But when he pushes it down,

2403
01:55:04,480 --> 01:55:05,400
Speaker 1: smooth criminal music.

2404
01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:08,440
Speaker 3: That was a picture of you were like the yeah,

2405
01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:12,040
Speaker 3: like flowing like you had did a spin move. I

2406
01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:12,480
Speaker 3: saw that.

2407
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:13,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was tripping Jay.

2408
01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:14,680
Speaker 3: You had a mic moment.

2409
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:16,680
Speaker 1: I had a mic moment and at the time I

2410
01:55:16,680 --> 01:55:17,720
Speaker 1: thought it was going back.

2411
01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 3: To the Jackson. Then my niggas, bro. He could have

2412
01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:28,080
Speaker 3: wanted to be at Jackson. Jackson, Bro, that's.

2413
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:32,000
Speaker 1: Really what it is. That's really what it is, Jamaine.

2414
01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:39,720
Speaker 3: He wanted to be you and passion passionate.

2415
01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:40,160
Speaker 1: Okay.

2416
01:55:40,200 --> 01:55:43,560
Speaker 4: I tossed between these because there's passion performance and there's

2417
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:45,560
Speaker 4: passion for the art. Okay, I'm going to take the

2418
01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:47,160
Speaker 4: whole package of passion. I'm going to give it to

2419
01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:52,440
Speaker 4: Beyonce because why not. We've seen her live every tour

2420
01:55:52,520 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 4: since probably twenty sixteen, Me and Melissa have one. She's

2421
01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:59,520
Speaker 4: leveled up every single time. The last time no openers

2422
01:56:00,240 --> 01:56:02,000
Speaker 4: two and a half hours.

2423
01:56:02,160 --> 01:56:05,160
Speaker 1: I could have bought a condo. The money y'all spending.

2424
01:56:05,360 --> 01:56:08,480
Speaker 1: It's so funny because we is Beyonce tickets. When we

2425
01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:11,240
Speaker 1: first used to go, we were so churchy and so scared.

2426
01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:13,920
Speaker 4: We wouldn't tell nobody because we knew back home they'd

2427
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:16,080
Speaker 4: be like, we knew they loved the devil. They went

2428
01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:17,840
Speaker 4: to that on the Run tour. They on the run

2429
01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:18,360
Speaker 4: from God.

2430
01:56:18,760 --> 01:56:19,360
Speaker 1: I knew it.

2431
01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:22,480
Speaker 4: They on the run from g Like that's how we

2432
01:56:22,600 --> 01:56:25,600
Speaker 4: would not post about him. Melissa posted a picture of

2433
01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:28,040
Speaker 4: the stairs of the Rose Bawl and somebody was like,

2434
01:56:28,280 --> 01:56:30,160
Speaker 4: they had Beyonce's concert. How do you know what the stare?

2435
01:56:30,200 --> 01:56:32,200
Speaker 4: How you know how you know that money was there too?

2436
01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:34,840
Speaker 4: Because they was there too. But now we just be

2437
01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:36,920
Speaker 4: out with it. For her birthday, we saw Beyonce three

2438
01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:39,720
Speaker 4: times last year. We saw her in la we went

2439
01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:42,520
Speaker 4: to Atlanta and saw her for a brand deal, and

2440
01:56:42,600 --> 01:56:45,360
Speaker 4: then we saw her the next night to celebrate my

2441
01:56:45,440 --> 01:56:46,160
Speaker 4: wife's birthday.

2442
01:56:46,200 --> 01:56:46,839
Speaker 3: That's incredible.

2443
01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:48,640
Speaker 4: And they listened to Beyonce while they were begetting to

2444
01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:50,440
Speaker 4: make up done in the car on the way to

2445
01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:52,520
Speaker 4: the show. Two and a half hours of Beyonce on

2446
01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:55,120
Speaker 4: the right back. What you think they put on Beyonce?

2447
01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:58,640
Speaker 4: Seven hours straight up Beyonce music. I wish you would

2448
01:56:58,680 --> 01:57:01,840
Speaker 4: complain every album? When is it the music we just

2449
01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 4: heard all the way?

2450
01:57:03,320 --> 01:57:03,480
Speaker 1: By?

2451
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:06,560
Speaker 3: Cowboy called her and I don't care, but her attention

2452
01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:07,040
Speaker 3: to detail.

2453
01:57:07,040 --> 01:57:09,880
Speaker 4: You watch the documentary is like she really is meticulous

2454
01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:12,520
Speaker 4: about the art form and as play as a comedian,

2455
01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:16,560
Speaker 4: the production value, the work, the musicians, her level of detail.

2456
01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:21,000
Speaker 4: The Coachella performance that was her motown twenty five to me,

2457
01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:23,160
Speaker 4: that was such a moment. Start off on Joy the

2458
01:57:23,240 --> 01:57:27,800
Speaker 4: Drummer with My Homegirl Netflix, most recently the super Bowl,

2459
01:57:28,240 --> 01:57:33,760
Speaker 4: Like she's really the pinnacle of creats. I get inspired

2460
01:57:33,880 --> 01:57:36,760
Speaker 4: watching her. I'm be like, I gotta level my game

2461
01:57:36,880 --> 01:57:39,760
Speaker 4: up because she's at the top of her game every time,

2462
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:41,560
Speaker 4: and I don't see many artists who level up their

2463
01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:44,600
Speaker 4: music and their live performances even as she ages every

2464
01:57:44,640 --> 01:57:47,160
Speaker 4: time every time. If she's not dancing as hard because

2465
01:57:47,160 --> 01:57:48,840
Speaker 4: she's you know, I think she hurt her foot on

2466
01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:51,400
Speaker 4: her knee, but she makes up for it in production value,

2467
01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:54,800
Speaker 4: in what her dancer's doing, stage design direction.

2468
01:57:55,360 --> 01:57:58,400
Speaker 1: I kind of want to know, like does the horse

2469
01:57:59,120 --> 01:58:04,320
Speaker 1: fold down? It's a one hundred foot of horse on stage? No,

2470
01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:08,280
Speaker 1: what is I would love to go back and Steady

2471
01:58:08,440 --> 01:58:09,080
Speaker 1: tell me how.

2472
01:58:09,320 --> 01:58:13,520
Speaker 3: Who knows how y'all transport the horse? The horse?

2473
01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:15,320
Speaker 1: I won't try. I'll be trying to ask I'll be

2474
01:58:15,400 --> 01:58:17,240
Speaker 1: thinking about stuff like that for sure, Like I know

2475
01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:18,080
Speaker 1: how the car got there.

2476
01:58:18,200 --> 01:58:21,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I get the car that they almost messed

2477
01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:23,760
Speaker 3: up with. Yes, I mean the car broke with the

2478
01:58:23,800 --> 01:58:24,240
Speaker 3: horse broke.

2479
01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 1: The car broke the car. They almost flip me out. Yeah, man,

2480
01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:34,200
Speaker 1: she maintained and maintains hey, hey, hey, hey up there.

2481
01:58:34,440 --> 01:58:37,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, she is the best to me. And then I

2482
01:58:37,480 --> 01:58:38,760
Speaker 3: got I'm gonna throw your curveball.

2483
01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:42,919
Speaker 1: Okay, for a love and laughter tour, who's the comedian

2484
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:44,840
Speaker 1: that opens up or not even just opens up, just

2485
01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:47,720
Speaker 1: just host this this this tour for this artist that

2486
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:48,480
Speaker 1: you just created.

2487
01:58:48,960 --> 01:58:51,880
Speaker 3: If you could pick the comedian that goes on the

2488
01:58:51,960 --> 01:58:53,360
Speaker 3: road with that artist.

2489
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:59,200
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, one comedian that's good, Jay, and I'm on

2490
01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:02,320
Speaker 4: the spot. Let me think, do they gotta sell tickets

2491
01:59:02,360 --> 01:59:03,160
Speaker 4: or they just gotta deliver?

2492
01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:06,680
Speaker 1: Just somebody that just nah, Because with that artist, the

2493
01:59:06,760 --> 01:59:10,800
Speaker 1: tickets is gonna sell. You gotta beyond performance. And now

2494
01:59:10,880 --> 01:59:14,520
Speaker 1: the thing about Michael Jackson closed the Ram Bernard Yeah

2495
01:59:14,720 --> 01:59:17,120
Speaker 1: on the ground and ship like the Grambason.

2496
01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:20,640
Speaker 4: Tom, I'm gonna throw you a curveball because with that group,

2497
01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:22,880
Speaker 4: you got to get people who are not there for comedy.

2498
01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:26,320
Speaker 4: That's the hardest comedy to perform, Okay, so you gotta

2499
01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:28,600
Speaker 4: be strong on the mic. I would pick Nate Jackson.

2500
01:59:29,400 --> 01:59:32,480
Speaker 4: Nate Jackson's great at crowd work. Nate Jackson can sing,

2501
01:59:33,120 --> 01:59:35,760
Speaker 4: so that could get you in. And Nate jackson material

2502
01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:39,040
Speaker 4: is also very strong and he's never I've never seen

2503
01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:42,560
Speaker 4: him take an l he could handle that audience. And

2504
01:59:42,680 --> 01:59:44,440
Speaker 4: what because when people are there for music and you're

2505
01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:46,640
Speaker 4: trying to be funny, Nick's not trying to hear it. Yeah,

2506
01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:48,240
Speaker 4: So I need you to be able to cut through

2507
01:59:48,880 --> 01:59:51,200
Speaker 4: and get their attention. So if you were, if I

2508
01:59:51,320 --> 01:59:54,080
Speaker 4: was a booker, I would book Nate Jackson or just Niche.

2509
01:59:54,280 --> 01:59:57,360
Speaker 1: I love the information you're given because there's gonna be

2510
01:59:57,360 --> 01:59:59,200
Speaker 1: a comedian out there that think they can go and

2511
01:59:59,320 --> 02:00:02,080
Speaker 1: do all one of those type of shows and find

2512
02:00:02,120 --> 02:00:02,800
Speaker 1: out the hard way.

2513
02:00:03,200 --> 02:00:06,240
Speaker 4: So many comedians take als because they're not here for that.

2514
02:00:07,120 --> 02:00:09,560
Speaker 4: I'm not, And that's a hard way to perform comedy.

2515
02:00:10,080 --> 02:00:12,000
Speaker 4: People standing up, you need to be sitting down to

2516
02:00:12,080 --> 02:00:12,840
Speaker 4: a George stand up.

2517
02:00:13,040 --> 02:00:13,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2518
02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:17,120
Speaker 3: One of the best that I've seen do R and

2519
02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:20,280
Speaker 3: B night type show, Bill Bellamy.

2520
02:00:21,120 --> 02:00:24,000
Speaker 1: He's he does amazing. They do a Chicago show in

2521
02:00:24,040 --> 02:00:27,920
Speaker 1: that space. Yeah, I like sweetest state. He just didn't

2522
02:00:28,080 --> 02:00:32,240
Speaker 1: seeing him host R and B events. Yeah, and he

2523
02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:45,840
Speaker 1: kills it every time, every time, Absolutely right. We got

2524
02:00:45,920 --> 02:00:46,520
Speaker 1: something else for you.

2525
02:00:46,680 --> 02:00:50,840
Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna go. We're gonna get churchy. Okay, you

2526
02:00:50,880 --> 02:00:52,920
Speaker 3: can get churchy. Man, what we got.

2527
02:00:54,440 --> 02:01:02,240
Speaker 1: You heard it saying hey for church?

2528
02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:19,400
Speaker 2: What you did, I'll say, I said, I gotta.

2529
02:01:19,200 --> 02:01:22,160
Speaker 1: Get you right back here, one, four, five for one.

2530
02:01:22,640 --> 02:01:26,320
Speaker 7: Come on, come on to one, come on crying, come on,

2531
02:01:26,640 --> 02:01:30,240
Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell this hold on my back down next day,

2532
02:01:30,360 --> 02:01:34,200
Speaker 7: I got excited, jail, my bad you a little bit

2533
02:01:34,240 --> 02:01:36,520
Speaker 7: of church and you just gonna come right in my lane.

2534
02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:41,680
Speaker 1: Now I'm looking out fasting. So we got a special

2535
02:01:41,840 --> 02:01:45,920
Speaker 1: part of the show, my favorite part of the show.

2536
02:01:46,880 --> 02:01:50,240
Speaker 3: Will you tell us a story? Funny er fucked up?

2537
02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:55,160
Speaker 3: Are funny and fucked up, which a lot of this

2538
02:01:55,160 --> 02:01:56,480
Speaker 3: ship should be doing. Be funny.

2539
02:01:58,600 --> 02:02:01,960
Speaker 1: But the only rule to the game is keV on

2540
02:02:02,280 --> 02:02:07,760
Speaker 1: stage can't say no names or use his name. I'm

2541
02:02:07,760 --> 02:02:09,320
Speaker 1: gonna switch it up on you can come on, switch

2542
02:02:09,320 --> 02:02:11,360
Speaker 1: it up. I had a story, but I'm gonna tell

2543
02:02:11,400 --> 02:02:13,040
Speaker 1: a story I ain't never told you. Come on, you

2544
02:02:13,160 --> 02:02:15,760
Speaker 1: know what I think you lying, but cool, I don't

2545
02:02:15,760 --> 02:02:17,320
Speaker 1: know it's true. My wife just looked at me and

2546
02:02:17,440 --> 02:02:20,800
Speaker 1: did this. I ain't say no names. Liz said her

2547
02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:24,880
Speaker 1: name or just her name. It ain't bought her clearly

2548
02:02:24,920 --> 02:02:28,879
Speaker 1: because you mayn't change her name to miss Cave on stage.

2549
02:02:30,960 --> 02:02:31,280
Speaker 1: All right.

2550
02:02:32,320 --> 02:02:35,000
Speaker 4: This is when the playmakers used to go out and

2551
02:02:35,080 --> 02:02:36,240
Speaker 4: do a three man show.

2552
02:02:36,560 --> 02:02:36,800
Speaker 1: Okay.

2553
02:02:37,200 --> 02:02:41,320
Speaker 4: At this time, we were invited to a conference to

2554
02:02:41,480 --> 02:02:45,920
Speaker 4: perform at this church conference. And I don't know if

2555
02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:48,640
Speaker 4: you know, but church conferences are very lucrative for the

2556
02:02:48,800 --> 02:02:52,200
Speaker 4: thrower and often the performers. And this is at a time.

2557
02:02:52,760 --> 02:02:55,880
Speaker 4: Oh no, they it can be you can be bred

2558
02:02:56,000 --> 02:03:01,520
Speaker 4: it up this time and we all needed this bread

2559
02:03:02,120 --> 02:03:05,000
Speaker 4: in the worst way, right And it was a it

2560
02:03:05,120 --> 02:03:05,800
Speaker 4: was a five.

2561
02:03:05,720 --> 02:03:10,520
Speaker 1: Figure offer, okay offer, I like, I like what you

2562
02:03:10,560 --> 02:03:14,960
Speaker 1: said is and shake contract because you you people of God.

2563
02:03:15,840 --> 02:03:17,720
Speaker 1: I feel like this is enough, friend, end. Let me

2564
02:03:17,760 --> 02:03:18,080
Speaker 1: tell you what.

2565
02:03:18,920 --> 02:03:19,600
Speaker 4: This ain't enough.

2566
02:03:21,160 --> 02:03:21,760
Speaker 3: No deposit.

2567
02:03:22,600 --> 02:03:24,320
Speaker 4: We're gonna give it to you after because we got

2568
02:03:24,400 --> 02:03:27,880
Speaker 4: to you know, we at this time we believe y'all, man,

2569
02:03:27,920 --> 02:03:29,760
Speaker 4: you people of the Lord gonna pay you us the

2570
02:03:29,840 --> 02:03:30,680
Speaker 4: door you're gonna give.

2571
02:03:30,640 --> 02:03:31,520
Speaker 3: Us at the walk up.

2572
02:03:33,400 --> 02:03:34,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna sell the walk up.

2573
02:03:36,000 --> 02:03:40,680
Speaker 4: Set it up, y'all, Fly y'allselves down, put y'allselves up.

2574
02:03:40,920 --> 02:03:43,520
Speaker 3: Y'all wasn't even flewed out. We wasn't flewed out. And

2575
02:03:43,640 --> 02:03:45,120
Speaker 3: at this time we went somewhere.

2576
02:03:45,560 --> 02:03:48,480
Speaker 4: However many layovers it takes to get there for the

2577
02:03:48,600 --> 02:03:53,160
Speaker 4: cheapest jay, we used to go from Seattle, Memphis, Detroit,

2578
02:03:53,240 --> 02:03:54,160
Speaker 4: wherever your hubs at.

2579
02:03:54,240 --> 02:03:57,440
Speaker 1: Back up, We'll stop five times to get to LA,

2580
02:03:57,600 --> 02:04:00,600
Speaker 1: to get to LA, to get to Houston, then to

2581
02:04:00,720 --> 02:04:03,520
Speaker 1: get to Dallas. Yeah, we didn't know Hubb to Hub.

2582
02:04:03,720 --> 02:04:06,160
Speaker 1: We don't fly enough to know where Delta goes. Okay,

2583
02:04:06,440 --> 02:04:12,120
Speaker 1: we going Expedia sort by lowest. Yeah, we checking trail

2584
02:04:13,560 --> 02:04:15,000
Speaker 1: seventeen hours to get there.

2585
02:04:15,040 --> 02:04:18,480
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll leave the day before we gonna get there.

2586
02:04:18,560 --> 02:04:19,040
Speaker 3: Don't worry.

2587
02:04:19,400 --> 02:04:21,360
Speaker 4: We're not buying the hotel the night before. We're gonna

2588
02:04:21,400 --> 02:04:23,240
Speaker 4: sit there until we can get in the room. Yeah,

2589
02:04:24,200 --> 02:04:29,040
Speaker 4: so we accept this. We get to the city. This

2590
02:04:29,240 --> 02:04:32,680
Speaker 4: is actually sold out. Oh, three nights.

2591
02:04:33,240 --> 02:04:34,240
Speaker 3: Three nights are sellout.

2592
02:04:34,280 --> 02:04:36,240
Speaker 4: Three nights to sell out. We go every night. We're

2593
02:04:36,240 --> 02:04:37,560
Speaker 4: not supposed to be there, but I paid.

2594
02:04:37,600 --> 02:04:38,600
Speaker 3: Wait, but y'all didn't get paid.

2595
02:04:38,600 --> 02:04:40,680
Speaker 4: After the first night, we didn't get We only performed once.

2596
02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:43,360
Speaker 4: Okay about last night closing? Now, all right, so I

2597
02:04:43,520 --> 02:04:47,640
Speaker 4: know y'all got Friday's money. Y'all got Saturday's money. We

2598
02:04:47,800 --> 02:04:48,840
Speaker 4: performed Sunday.

2599
02:04:48,520 --> 02:04:51,880
Speaker 1: Closers on Sunday and we close it and we kill

2600
02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:55,480
Speaker 1: okay kill, go backstage to collect.

2601
02:04:55,960 --> 02:04:57,800
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, we're gonna get y'all in just a second.

2602
02:04:57,800 --> 02:05:01,200
Speaker 1: All right, get something ney okay, yeah, yeah, school hummus,

2603
02:05:01,400 --> 02:05:05,160
Speaker 1: dip dimed pineapples, don't mind if I do? Can I

2604
02:05:05,200 --> 02:05:09,680
Speaker 1: have a Fiji tank? Two? Okay? All right, been about

2605
02:05:09,720 --> 02:05:13,440
Speaker 1: thirty minutes, people starting to leave. Hey, well y'all still

2606
02:05:13,440 --> 02:05:13,960
Speaker 1: do we cut you?

2607
02:05:14,040 --> 02:05:14,640
Speaker 3: We got your brother?

2608
02:05:14,720 --> 02:05:15,400
Speaker 4: Were just counting.

2609
02:05:15,840 --> 02:05:19,160
Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna get y'all, okay, because we you know,

2610
02:05:19,240 --> 02:05:20,760
Speaker 1: we got to get back to that. Yeah, I have

2611
02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:22,520
Speaker 1: some more hummits. Oh yeah, I don't really you know

2612
02:05:22,560 --> 02:05:24,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I ain't really hungry like I was.

2613
02:05:25,200 --> 02:05:27,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to kind of get you know. My hands

2614
02:05:27,280 --> 02:05:30,520
Speaker 1: are actually starting to sweat now. Right hour goes by

2615
02:05:31,080 --> 02:05:34,280
Speaker 1: green room empty, They're like, oh yeah they got you outside. Okay, cool,

2616
02:05:34,360 --> 02:05:43,240
Speaker 1: y'all go outside. The person okay that booked us? Who

2617
02:05:43,400 --> 02:05:47,360
Speaker 1: is the headliner of the event. Oh they got your bread.

2618
02:05:47,480 --> 02:05:54,160
Speaker 1: Oh cool, we go another artist, Yes, book, y'all? Okay direct, Okay,

2619
02:05:54,320 --> 02:05:58,080
Speaker 1: so I know you got my bread because you are

2620
02:05:58,160 --> 02:06:00,560
Speaker 1: the person a person time.

2621
02:06:03,000 --> 02:06:05,880
Speaker 4: Person is in a range rover. I had never seen

2622
02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:07,320
Speaker 4: a range rover with my own eyes.

2623
02:06:08,600 --> 02:06:11,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man. They didn't take care of you, no,

2624
02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:15,040
Speaker 1: they said, They said, Hummus can come talk to you.

2625
02:06:15,920 --> 02:06:20,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, we ain't really settled everything yet.

2626
02:06:20,280 --> 02:06:24,720
Speaker 4: We're gonna get with you. Rolls the window up on

2627
02:06:25,000 --> 02:06:29,560
Speaker 4: us as they are talking. Yeah, we just gonna go ahead.

2628
02:06:30,120 --> 02:06:38,600
Speaker 4: Everything's gonna be set. We're gonna get with you. Gate opens.

2629
02:06:39,240 --> 02:06:43,600
Speaker 4: They lead to this day. I've never seen that bread.

2630
02:06:44,480 --> 02:06:49,120
Speaker 4: Have run into said person okay many times over. I

2631
02:06:49,280 --> 02:06:52,839
Speaker 4: don't know if they remember who I am or what happened,

2632
02:06:53,720 --> 02:06:57,040
Speaker 4: but we were promised five figures. We left with Hummus

2633
02:06:58,240 --> 02:07:01,760
Speaker 4: and Fiji bottles of water and came back to our wives.

2634
02:07:02,320 --> 02:07:03,000
Speaker 4: Where's the bread?

2635
02:07:03,800 --> 02:07:04,160
Speaker 1: You see?

2636
02:07:05,600 --> 02:07:10,080
Speaker 3: It was a walk up down. They didn't get it.

2637
02:07:10,360 --> 02:07:13,160
Speaker 4: The last time I ever did a show with anybody

2638
02:07:13,280 --> 02:07:16,360
Speaker 4: without a contract. And from that moment on, we don't

2639
02:07:16,360 --> 02:07:19,040
Speaker 4: even get on the plane until you. We don't even

2640
02:07:19,120 --> 02:07:23,200
Speaker 4: consider it real until you deposit positive flight holds. I

2641
02:07:23,320 --> 02:07:26,120
Speaker 4: never thought a person in that industry could play you.

2642
02:07:26,480 --> 02:07:29,240
Speaker 4: Did you ever have the conversation again, never had the

2643
02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:32,520
Speaker 4: conversation again. You just charged to the game, charged to

2644
02:07:32,600 --> 02:07:32,920
Speaker 4: the game.

2645
02:07:33,600 --> 02:07:34,000
Speaker 1: Low key.

2646
02:07:34,160 --> 02:07:36,960
Speaker 4: At that conference, though, we were so broke. I was

2647
02:07:37,040 --> 02:07:39,680
Speaker 4: on the altar crying like God, I need a way.

2648
02:07:39,920 --> 02:07:42,000
Speaker 4: And I still left with a peace about it. And

2649
02:07:42,080 --> 02:07:44,480
Speaker 4: when we got back to La, kid you not, things

2650
02:07:44,520 --> 02:07:48,480
Speaker 4: started working out for our career, and that's.

2651
02:07:48,000 --> 02:07:50,440
Speaker 1: Silver lining, silver lining. You know, all I have is

2652
02:07:50,600 --> 02:07:52,200
Speaker 1: violence in my head right.

2653
02:07:52,120 --> 02:07:55,160
Speaker 3: Now, I kid you not Jay.

2654
02:07:55,240 --> 02:08:01,160
Speaker 4: When we got back deals, things, click booking, gigs, and

2655
02:08:01,240 --> 02:08:02,920
Speaker 4: that's why I feel like, that's why I wrote the

2656
02:08:02,960 --> 02:08:05,480
Speaker 4: Successful Failure book because I learned that lesson. Now it

2657
02:08:05,600 --> 02:08:11,120
Speaker 4: don't matter who signs me, promises me, it's not real

2658
02:08:11,240 --> 02:08:13,080
Speaker 4: until it's on signature and the money it's in my

2659
02:08:13,120 --> 02:08:16,360
Speaker 4: account because now I was supposed to be my kids

2660
02:08:16,440 --> 02:08:19,920
Speaker 4: with that, right like you, I need that at that time.

2661
02:08:20,200 --> 02:08:23,840
Speaker 4: If you promise me twenty five dollars, twenty four is spent, right,

2662
02:08:24,320 --> 02:08:27,360
Speaker 4: this is going to a bill of Capri sons whatever.

2663
02:08:27,160 --> 02:08:28,200
Speaker 1: I need all that.

2664
02:08:28,560 --> 02:08:32,640
Speaker 4: Brother, I got kids, My brother got kids, ain't got kids.

2665
02:08:33,600 --> 02:08:36,640
Speaker 4: So yeah, at that point. It had never happened to

2666
02:08:36,720 --> 02:08:38,760
Speaker 4: me before, and it never happened since.

2667
02:08:39,880 --> 02:08:42,120
Speaker 3: I want to say it's funny. It's not fun though.

2668
02:08:42,320 --> 02:08:46,600
Speaker 1: It was completely fucked up because I feel like you

2669
02:08:46,760 --> 02:08:51,440
Speaker 1: use God somewhere there, bro, business ain't they use God.

2670
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:53,680
Speaker 4: I feel like you use God as a cover because

2671
02:08:53,680 --> 02:08:55,960
Speaker 4: I would never think you would do that. And I

2672
02:08:56,080 --> 02:08:56,800
Speaker 4: know you made out.

2673
02:08:57,000 --> 02:08:57,520
Speaker 3: It's one thing.

2674
02:08:57,600 --> 02:09:00,640
Speaker 4: If it's light in there every night, I'm damn okay,

2675
02:09:01,440 --> 02:09:04,920
Speaker 4: it's backed standing room only three nights in a row.

2676
02:09:05,160 --> 02:09:05,760
Speaker 3: Y'all got it?

2677
02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:09,879
Speaker 1: We helped. That's nasty. Yeah, it was cold, brother.

2678
02:09:10,600 --> 02:09:16,000
Speaker 3: You would think gospel church bruh. People are people? Do

2679
02:09:16,120 --> 02:09:18,520
Speaker 3: you remember what if it was like a four point

2680
02:09:18,680 --> 02:09:20,600
Speaker 3: oh rand Rover or four point si.

2681
02:09:20,680 --> 02:09:22,080
Speaker 4: I don't even know the doing that, jay Z.

2682
02:09:23,200 --> 02:09:26,280
Speaker 1: Jay Z said that I got my feelings were hurt,

2683
02:09:26,320 --> 02:09:29,240
Speaker 1: and you didn't even have I didn't know either, and

2684
02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:30,080
Speaker 1: I was curious.

2685
02:09:33,160 --> 02:09:36,000
Speaker 3: I didn't know either, Jay why I can't be curious?

2686
02:09:36,640 --> 02:09:38,520
Speaker 4: But now I learned a tough lesson that day.

2687
02:09:38,720 --> 02:09:41,040
Speaker 1: But you, like you said, you learned a lesson. You

2688
02:09:41,120 --> 02:09:44,120
Speaker 1: were able to apply that. Yeah, and you didn't go

2689
02:09:44,160 --> 02:09:47,240
Speaker 1: to prison. I didn't go to prison because.

2690
02:09:46,960 --> 02:09:51,120
Speaker 3: That's a three on one for sure. For sure y'all

2691
02:09:51,160 --> 02:09:52,320
Speaker 3: could have chased the truck.

2692
02:09:52,160 --> 02:09:54,920
Speaker 4: Now absolutely, I never had a window rolled up in

2693
02:09:55,000 --> 02:10:00,320
Speaker 4: my face mid conversation like, that's wildly disrespectful, very big red,

2694
02:10:00,640 --> 02:10:03,240
Speaker 4: big red office are from.

2695
02:10:03,200 --> 02:10:05,920
Speaker 1: Nine to eleanois.

2696
02:10:07,320 --> 02:10:10,360
Speaker 3: They had that fake apple? What it is?

2697
02:10:10,440 --> 02:10:10,880
Speaker 1: A shame?

2698
02:10:10,960 --> 02:10:13,800
Speaker 3: What happened to Jimmy man? Not anything?

2699
02:10:14,240 --> 02:10:18,720
Speaker 1: You come and talk to me, No, bro, that that's up.

2700
02:10:18,840 --> 02:10:21,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's cool, but that is that is the business.

2701
02:10:21,600 --> 02:10:24,000
Speaker 3: If you're not on your business.

2702
02:10:24,240 --> 02:10:27,920
Speaker 4: Absolutely, you know, let we let people take advantage.

2703
02:10:27,840 --> 02:10:29,840
Speaker 1: Of us, and then you go to put yourself in

2704
02:10:30,560 --> 02:10:33,760
Speaker 1: a compromising position because with that situation, you could have

2705
02:10:33,880 --> 02:10:38,480
Speaker 1: only chosen to either take it there right, I take

2706
02:10:38,520 --> 02:10:39,040
Speaker 1: it on the chain.

2707
02:10:39,720 --> 02:10:40,560
Speaker 3: And we took it on the chain.

2708
02:10:40,600 --> 02:10:42,680
Speaker 4: We lost money because mind you, we like I said,

2709
02:10:42,720 --> 02:10:45,560
Speaker 4: we flew ourselves, put ourselves up rental car, food.

2710
02:10:45,840 --> 02:10:48,080
Speaker 3: And then y'all had to take six more layovers and.

2711
02:10:49,560 --> 02:10:52,120
Speaker 4: Man, and then come back and explain to our wives

2712
02:10:52,160 --> 02:10:55,560
Speaker 4: that we left for nothing. We are now negative when

2713
02:10:55,600 --> 02:10:57,840
Speaker 4: we need it all. So you like you look at

2714
02:10:57,880 --> 02:10:59,840
Speaker 4: her in the face, you're like, man, come on, bro,

2715
02:11:00,640 --> 02:11:02,080
Speaker 4: how many mistakes you'all gonna make?

2716
02:11:02,880 --> 02:11:04,200
Speaker 1: Like you you dumb, but we were.

2717
02:11:04,440 --> 02:11:07,160
Speaker 4: I was so hungry. I let people take advantage of

2718
02:11:07,240 --> 02:11:10,400
Speaker 4: my hunger. You can never be so hung because that's

2719
02:11:10,400 --> 02:11:14,160
Speaker 4: when people beat you. When you're so people can smell desperation.

2720
02:11:15,760 --> 02:11:18,760
Speaker 4: If you your only real leverage, and the negotiation is no.

2721
02:11:20,160 --> 02:11:22,560
Speaker 4: If you're not willing to walk away, the other person

2722
02:11:22,680 --> 02:11:27,080
Speaker 4: has you beat because if you won't walk away, you'll

2723
02:11:27,120 --> 02:11:29,560
Speaker 4: eventually give more than they get within what you want

2724
02:11:29,600 --> 02:11:31,840
Speaker 4: to give. And I didn't learn that early on my

2725
02:11:32,000 --> 02:11:36,720
Speaker 4: first contract jam I signed no red line. I used

2726
02:11:36,760 --> 02:11:38,960
Speaker 4: to think, if you if I say no red line,

2727
02:11:40,120 --> 02:11:42,480
Speaker 4: And now I know that first deal is like nigga.

2728
02:11:42,200 --> 02:11:46,480
Speaker 3: If you take this, it's just everything is for me.

2729
02:11:47,080 --> 02:11:49,240
Speaker 1: How I used to scroll down to schedule a how

2730
02:11:49,320 --> 02:11:52,880
Speaker 1: much money Kevin Frederick's.

2731
02:11:56,720 --> 02:11:58,600
Speaker 3: At the time, the bread is right?

2732
02:11:58,680 --> 02:12:04,120
Speaker 1: You signed the safety deal? What man? But you know?

2733
02:12:04,360 --> 02:12:06,240
Speaker 1: But listen, that same.

2734
02:12:07,480 --> 02:12:12,480
Speaker 3: Hunger has it led you to for stream fed? You

2735
02:12:12,560 --> 02:12:16,000
Speaker 3: know what I mean? And so many people try to

2736
02:12:16,080 --> 02:12:16,960
Speaker 3: get in front of.

2737
02:12:19,000 --> 02:12:22,120
Speaker 1: The business too soon, especially in this new day and

2738
02:12:22,200 --> 02:12:27,040
Speaker 1: age of knowing too much but still not really knowing

2739
02:12:27,200 --> 02:12:31,520
Speaker 1: how it goes, and when to have discernment of when

2740
02:12:31,560 --> 02:12:34,120
Speaker 1: you should say you know what actually, I mean, I

2741
02:12:34,240 --> 02:12:38,800
Speaker 1: am going to take less in this situation because this

2742
02:12:39,040 --> 02:12:42,040
Speaker 1: opportunity will lead, or believing that it will.

2743
02:12:41,920 --> 02:12:48,040
Speaker 4: Lead, and sometimes that you just that's not bad or wrong. No,

2744
02:12:48,400 --> 02:12:51,800
Speaker 4: sometimes you don't have the cachet to demand what you're

2745
02:12:51,840 --> 02:12:54,280
Speaker 4: actually worth, but you get your foot in the door

2746
02:12:54,400 --> 02:12:56,560
Speaker 4: and you flip that. And I think of it as

2747
02:12:56,560 --> 02:12:58,280
Speaker 4: like a rookie deal. I know, I come in the league,

2748
02:12:58,320 --> 02:13:01,560
Speaker 4: the NFL, NBA the first it's capped out. But if

2749
02:13:01,600 --> 02:13:04,880
Speaker 4: I ball out my second contract, y'all got to pay me.

2750
02:13:05,120 --> 02:13:07,520
Speaker 4: Or in my first contract, I got this from the NFL.

2751
02:13:07,840 --> 02:13:09,680
Speaker 4: I can do brand deals, I can do commercials, I

2752
02:13:09,760 --> 02:13:13,000
Speaker 4: can do whatever the case is. Bonus is an incentive.

2753
02:13:13,040 --> 02:13:15,200
Speaker 4: Bonus is an incentive how much I'm gonna work, right,

2754
02:13:15,440 --> 02:13:19,880
Speaker 4: But when you have leverage, you got exerted because when

2755
02:13:19,880 --> 02:13:22,480
Speaker 4: they have it, they're gonna exert it on you, on you,

2756
02:13:22,680 --> 02:13:24,760
Speaker 4: and and some of the best things I learned from

2757
02:13:24,880 --> 02:13:28,200
Speaker 4: that moment the first deals when I first started getting

2758
02:13:28,200 --> 02:13:30,760
Speaker 4: into selling TV shows, Jay them office were so bogused,

2759
02:13:30,880 --> 02:13:35,640
Speaker 4: I'm sure, and I literally had to say no, not

2760
02:13:35,800 --> 02:13:38,880
Speaker 4: having a TV show sold, absolutely not. I'd rather not

2761
02:13:39,040 --> 02:13:41,440
Speaker 4: sell it than sell it for that and going about

2762
02:13:41,480 --> 02:13:44,280
Speaker 4: my life. This is not a negotiation tactic. Yeah no,

2763
02:13:45,320 --> 02:13:47,960
Speaker 4: we don't hear back for weeks months. Sometimes you really

2764
02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:49,880
Speaker 4: got to make them feel like, oh dang, he really

2765
02:13:49,960 --> 02:13:50,800
Speaker 4: means and I.

2766
02:13:50,840 --> 02:13:52,840
Speaker 1: Mean because you got him. You gotta really mean it.

2767
02:13:53,240 --> 02:13:53,760
Speaker 3: You got to.

2768
02:13:53,880 --> 02:13:56,800
Speaker 4: It can't be a bluff they knowing you bluffing. And

2769
02:13:56,880 --> 02:13:58,600
Speaker 4: that's why I need them two three videos a day

2770
02:13:58,600 --> 02:14:01,120
Speaker 4: because that's actually what I can control. You're not gonna

2771
02:14:01,120 --> 02:14:03,200
Speaker 4: play me. I'm so hungry that I gotta take it.

2772
02:14:03,920 --> 02:14:07,480
Speaker 4: No kep on stage two blow Mississippi three nights only.

2773
02:14:08,080 --> 02:14:10,720
Speaker 4: I'll do that before I now, before I sign a

2774
02:14:10,760 --> 02:14:15,240
Speaker 4: bad deal. I'll do that stuff. But I can't get

2775
02:14:15,280 --> 02:14:18,080
Speaker 4: played no more. And I'm not you know, I'm I'm

2776
02:14:18,160 --> 02:14:18,760
Speaker 4: smarter now.

2777
02:14:19,040 --> 02:14:20,840
Speaker 3: Bro, your story is inspiring.

2778
02:14:20,920 --> 02:14:23,080
Speaker 1: Bro, thank you. I really wanted to say that. Like

2779
02:14:23,160 --> 02:14:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, we see each other all the time. I'm

2780
02:14:26,200 --> 02:14:29,200
Speaker 1: always trolling your messing with you man, since you since

2781
02:14:29,240 --> 02:14:29,640
Speaker 1: y'all walked in.

2782
02:14:29,760 --> 02:14:30,920
Speaker 3: Your wife was like the troll.

2783
02:14:32,840 --> 02:14:36,480
Speaker 1: But honestly, I only troll people I got real love

2784
02:14:36,560 --> 02:14:39,400
Speaker 1: for and really sure you know what I mean saying

2785
02:14:39,680 --> 02:14:40,960
Speaker 1: to me, I'm like that at the time for you,

2786
02:14:42,880 --> 02:14:45,720
Speaker 1: damn fool you know what I'm saying, but like, no,

2787
02:14:46,520 --> 02:14:47,640
Speaker 1: that's how I show my love.

2788
02:14:47,720 --> 02:14:49,160
Speaker 3: I come I come from one of them type of

2789
02:14:49,200 --> 02:14:54,040
Speaker 3: family as nigga. That's saying I come from so bro.

2790
02:14:54,160 --> 02:14:57,120
Speaker 1: But I really wanted to tell you that what you've

2791
02:14:57,160 --> 02:14:59,280
Speaker 1: been doing, what you what you've been building, what your

2792
02:14:59,440 --> 02:15:03,120
Speaker 1: family is been building. You know what you guys give

2793
02:15:03,200 --> 02:15:07,200
Speaker 1: to the world, How you project what you show? You

2794
02:15:07,240 --> 02:15:09,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean pretty much being married since the

2795
02:15:09,680 --> 02:15:11,480
Speaker 1: eleventh grade. Serious, you know what I mean?

2796
02:15:11,600 --> 02:15:14,320
Speaker 4: Like all of those I want to say this, people

2797
02:15:14,480 --> 02:15:16,280
Speaker 4: often try to use that as a negative to me,

2798
02:15:16,720 --> 02:15:20,240
Speaker 4: especially men like you. Ain't get no cucie when I

2799
02:15:20,320 --> 02:15:24,080
Speaker 4: tell you, Jay, there's a certain I am more successful

2800
02:15:24,160 --> 02:15:28,600
Speaker 4: and creative because I am devoted because I'm not wasting energy.

2801
02:15:28,920 --> 02:15:35,240
Speaker 4: Chasing women is energy. Lying is energy. Dming all energy.

2802
02:15:36,400 --> 02:15:38,200
Speaker 4: And that's not why I do it, But I realize

2803
02:15:38,240 --> 02:15:41,200
Speaker 4: it's I run on efficiency. I check in with my

2804
02:15:41,280 --> 02:15:43,840
Speaker 4: wife that it takes the same energy to be happily married.

2805
02:15:44,160 --> 02:15:46,960
Speaker 4: And in exchange, I get love, I get safety, I

2806
02:15:47,000 --> 02:15:47,880
Speaker 4: get sound business.

2807
02:15:47,920 --> 02:15:52,040
Speaker 1: If I just today, Jay, what's what happened today? Jay?

2808
02:15:53,240 --> 02:15:56,640
Speaker 4: We negotiating this deal with this TV company and some's

2809
02:15:56,720 --> 02:15:59,960
Speaker 4: not right and I'm not. I'm great a lot of business.

2810
02:16:00,040 --> 02:16:04,640
Speaker 4: I'm not perfect on everything. My wife is like, they're

2811
02:16:04,720 --> 02:16:07,800
Speaker 4: gonna pass and they want to do something else because

2812
02:16:07,960 --> 02:16:11,000
Speaker 4: XYZ is just not making sense. This is yesterday, okay, right,

2813
02:16:11,160 --> 02:16:13,680
Speaker 4: She's like this, this and that guarantee you keV when

2814
02:16:13,720 --> 02:16:15,920
Speaker 4: you finally talked to him, this was gonna happen, kid,

2815
02:16:16,000 --> 02:16:17,960
Speaker 4: You not, Jay, I had lunch before I came here.

2816
02:16:18,600 --> 02:16:20,520
Speaker 4: The person's like, all right, so it's going to be

2817
02:16:20,560 --> 02:16:22,800
Speaker 4: a pass. But here's what they want to do. And

2818
02:16:22,880 --> 02:16:26,240
Speaker 4: in my head, I'm like, Nigga, this is my wife.

2819
02:16:27,440 --> 02:16:30,560
Speaker 3: This is her all the time, girl, And the DM

2820
02:16:30,600 --> 02:16:33,000
Speaker 3: couldn't have told you that, Nigga. You don't know nothing

2821
02:16:33,080 --> 02:16:37,400
Speaker 3: girl in the DM. Fat but I need help negotiating

2822
02:16:37,480 --> 02:16:38,080
Speaker 3: business deal.

2823
02:16:38,280 --> 02:16:41,680
Speaker 1: Tennis ain't gonna save me one hundred thousand dollars, Fat

2824
02:16:41,760 --> 02:16:45,960
Speaker 1: cuchie boom? Why is this deal not closing? I don't

2825
02:16:45,959 --> 02:16:48,240
Speaker 1: know what fat couchie is, Jay, but I don't care.

2826
02:16:48,320 --> 02:16:50,120
Speaker 1: Maybe the lips are fat, maybe they're not even I

2827
02:16:50,200 --> 02:16:53,800
Speaker 1: don't know. But what I'm telling you is my wife

2828
02:16:54,160 --> 02:16:57,960
Speaker 1: helps me close deals. I'm not giving that up for

2829
02:16:58,120 --> 02:17:02,240
Speaker 1: fat but fat but fat but boom? How do I

2830
02:17:02,360 --> 02:17:06,840
Speaker 1: make this show more efficiently. My wife knows can we

2831
02:17:06,959 --> 02:17:11,520
Speaker 1: make t shirts say fat but fat but boo bro

2832
02:17:11,760 --> 02:17:15,640
Speaker 1: y'all not y'all missing the thing. If you pour into

2833
02:17:15,720 --> 02:17:18,120
Speaker 1: that woman, she gonna help you negotiate the deal. This

2834
02:17:18,240 --> 02:17:19,240
Speaker 1: is my secret weapon.

2835
02:17:20,040 --> 02:17:24,720
Speaker 4: She knows not so secret Jay, and she knows me like,

2836
02:17:24,959 --> 02:17:28,080
Speaker 4: I'm all games and fun, but I low key can

2837
02:17:28,160 --> 02:17:32,279
Speaker 4: be very vindictive and X Y and Z I know key.

2838
02:17:32,280 --> 02:17:37,760
Speaker 1: J I'm I'm kind but not nice, Like, don't let

2839
02:17:37,800 --> 02:17:39,400
Speaker 1: the jumps for you when it comes to that bread.

2840
02:17:40,280 --> 02:17:43,000
Speaker 4: You got to become a hardened businessman to be successful.

2841
02:17:43,920 --> 02:17:46,240
Speaker 4: She knows when to say, I'm not keV. You need

2842
02:17:46,320 --> 02:17:49,200
Speaker 4: to tap into that part. It's f them, She don't cuss,

2843
02:17:49,240 --> 02:17:52,480
Speaker 4: it's f them. Or you actually got to give on this.

2844
02:17:53,440 --> 02:17:55,480
Speaker 4: You actually gotta give more than you think you got

2845
02:17:55,600 --> 02:17:57,520
Speaker 4: to give because it's gonna protect you down the line.

2846
02:17:57,600 --> 02:17:57,760
Speaker 1: Here.

2847
02:17:58,680 --> 02:18:01,400
Speaker 4: When I want to be too too hard to cut throat,

2848
02:18:01,480 --> 02:18:03,800
Speaker 4: She's like, you actually don't need to do that. Every

2849
02:18:03,879 --> 02:18:07,640
Speaker 4: time she's ever done that, it has always been proven right,

2850
02:18:08,160 --> 02:18:12,600
Speaker 4: usually within a week or two. She's that foresight superpower.

2851
02:18:12,680 --> 02:18:13,840
Speaker 4: This is just something happened. I don't want to go

2852
02:18:13,879 --> 02:18:15,320
Speaker 4: too much of detail. I won't say no name, won't

2853
02:18:15,360 --> 02:18:18,840
Speaker 4: say no names. But she was like, here's what I

2854
02:18:18,879 --> 02:18:20,960
Speaker 4: think you should do, because you don't know when that

2855
02:18:21,000 --> 02:18:22,120
Speaker 4: decision is gonna come to bite you.

2856
02:18:22,600 --> 02:18:24,600
Speaker 1: And I didn't want to do it. In my head.

2857
02:18:24,600 --> 02:18:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, unless I think you're wrong, Yeah, right, I

2858
02:18:27,600 --> 02:18:30,440
Speaker 1: think I should. And she's like, I'm telling you it's

2859
02:18:30,520 --> 02:18:32,520
Speaker 1: gonna be bad. Don't do it.

2860
02:18:32,720 --> 02:18:36,240
Speaker 4: So I'm like, bad, I won't do it. Just yesterday,

2861
02:18:36,680 --> 02:18:40,200
Speaker 4: what would have unraveled to me just started happening. And

2862
02:18:40,360 --> 02:18:41,800
Speaker 4: she's she's come around the corner.

2863
02:18:43,280 --> 02:18:43,840
Speaker 1: What I told you?

2864
02:18:43,959 --> 02:18:44,560
Speaker 3: What I tell you.

2865
02:18:45,320 --> 02:18:47,000
Speaker 1: Right when we're about to announce other stuff, she's like,

2866
02:18:47,120 --> 02:18:48,040
Speaker 1: you can't risk this.

2867
02:18:49,200 --> 02:18:50,240
Speaker 4: I know how you feel.

2868
02:18:50,760 --> 02:18:53,120
Speaker 1: You got to eat this one. You gotta take it

2869
02:18:53,200 --> 02:18:56,400
Speaker 1: on the chin. I promise you it's the right choice.

2870
02:18:57,600 --> 02:18:57,880
Speaker 3: Broh.

2871
02:18:58,360 --> 02:19:01,840
Speaker 4: That's been happening forever. And I didn't always listen. That's dope,

2872
02:19:02,000 --> 02:19:03,959
Speaker 4: But now I listen. Now I gotta remind her, cause

2873
02:19:03,959 --> 02:19:05,960
Speaker 4: she like, you never listen to me. Now when I listen,

2874
02:19:06,040 --> 02:19:08,000
Speaker 4: I text her put this in the keV listen box,

2875
02:19:08,360 --> 02:19:10,119
Speaker 4: because you always want to say you don't never listen

2876
02:19:10,200 --> 02:19:11,800
Speaker 4: to me. But when I when I don't listen. You

2877
02:19:11,800 --> 02:19:15,480
Speaker 4: remember every time, but when I do listen, you don't remember. Yeah,

2878
02:19:15,680 --> 02:19:18,360
Speaker 4: I want to make sure I shout out cousin Tony

2879
02:19:19,000 --> 02:19:19,640
Speaker 4: to my nigga.

2880
02:19:19,680 --> 02:19:19,760
Speaker 2: Man.

2881
02:19:20,040 --> 02:19:23,080
Speaker 3: If it wasn't for cousin, I don't know where you

2882
02:19:23,080 --> 02:19:23,360
Speaker 3: would be.

2883
02:19:23,560 --> 02:19:27,720
Speaker 4: I don't know, shrung out on crack seven babies, Mom,

2884
02:19:28,800 --> 02:19:29,440
Speaker 4: And I got a.

2885
02:19:29,440 --> 02:19:30,200
Speaker 1: Song for your men.

2886
02:19:30,400 --> 02:19:31,400
Speaker 3: I weed it, I'll eat it.

2887
02:19:31,520 --> 02:19:35,160
Speaker 1: Damn, we're damn damn. We'll take this something and we'll

2888
02:19:35,240 --> 02:19:35,480
Speaker 1: take you.

2889
02:19:35,760 --> 02:19:37,800
Speaker 3: But no, that's why, that's just no.

2890
02:19:37,840 --> 02:19:39,560
Speaker 1: No, I'm just telling you what I mean. I got

2891
02:19:39,680 --> 02:19:40,360
Speaker 1: a demo for you.

2892
02:19:40,440 --> 02:19:42,040
Speaker 3: I gotta take already handing you a tape.

2893
02:19:42,600 --> 02:19:44,680
Speaker 1: You got a way to play this on your phone.

2894
02:19:44,720 --> 02:19:46,560
Speaker 3: We're gonna whoop through after the camera let's go up.

2895
02:19:51,360 --> 02:19:54,320
Speaker 3: But I appreciate you thanking this is This has been amazing.

2896
02:19:54,400 --> 02:19:57,320
Speaker 1: I feel like you've given so much great information for

2897
02:19:57,680 --> 02:19:59,680
Speaker 1: you know, for the content creators out there, for the

2898
02:20:00,040 --> 02:20:02,760
Speaker 1: future business people that want to be in this game

2899
02:20:03,000 --> 02:20:06,160
Speaker 1: to have a different understanding and to and to be

2900
02:20:06,280 --> 02:20:10,039
Speaker 1: able to understand that you can do it without.

2901
02:20:11,840 --> 02:20:12,680
Speaker 3: Fucking people over.

2902
02:20:13,640 --> 02:20:15,600
Speaker 1: That's the only way I can do what I mean. No,

2903
02:20:15,760 --> 02:20:18,080
Speaker 1: but I mean it shouldn't just be you, right, It

2904
02:20:18,240 --> 02:20:20,480
Speaker 1: really shouldn't right. It shouldn't just be I feel like

2905
02:20:20,600 --> 02:20:24,120
Speaker 1: you're leading by example. Yes, your team is leading by example.

2906
02:20:24,320 --> 02:20:26,760
Speaker 1: I've never heard anything but good things about y'all and

2907
02:20:27,040 --> 02:20:30,320
Speaker 1: how y'all do business, and we've never even done business.

2908
02:20:30,360 --> 02:20:32,800
Speaker 4: And I've like, can I give you a quick story?

2909
02:20:33,680 --> 02:20:34,240
Speaker 3: More quick story?

2910
02:20:34,280 --> 02:20:36,200
Speaker 4: I know weed over time, I know I'm hungry to liss,

2911
02:20:36,720 --> 02:20:38,520
Speaker 4: I gotta say, it's just one more that my wife

2912
02:20:38,600 --> 02:20:42,120
Speaker 4: saved me. Okay, we produce a show Jay Valentine and

2913
02:20:42,760 --> 02:20:45,320
Speaker 4: I made a mistake. Trusted somebody with the budget. They

2914
02:20:45,320 --> 02:20:48,320
Speaker 4: didn't deliver. We had gave the money to pay these

2915
02:20:48,640 --> 02:20:53,080
Speaker 4: actors and background actors. We thought they got paid. We're

2916
02:20:53,080 --> 02:20:55,480
Speaker 4: closing out production. We start getting emails. You know, we

2917
02:20:55,520 --> 02:20:57,320
Speaker 4: didn't get paid. We didn't get paid. We didn't get paid.

2918
02:20:57,320 --> 02:20:58,600
Speaker 4: We didn't get paid. We didn't get paid.

2919
02:20:59,400 --> 02:21:05,400
Speaker 3: We're like, how we here's all, here's wire the money

2920
02:21:05,480 --> 02:21:05,920
Speaker 3: is there for you?

2921
02:21:06,720 --> 02:21:08,280
Speaker 4: Short story short, because I know this is long. If

2922
02:21:08,280 --> 02:21:11,400
Speaker 4: you're still here, you're still here now you see how

2923
02:21:11,440 --> 02:21:12,240
Speaker 4: long the podcast is.

2924
02:21:12,440 --> 02:21:13,280
Speaker 1: You've made the choice.

2925
02:21:15,320 --> 02:21:17,960
Speaker 4: So in my head, we talked to we talked to

2926
02:21:18,040 --> 02:21:21,520
Speaker 4: the reps and They're like, legally, you guys don't have

2927
02:21:21,720 --> 02:21:25,800
Speaker 4: to pay these people because you did your part. It

2928
02:21:25,959 --> 02:21:30,160
Speaker 4: sucks for them, but legally you've done what you're supposed

2929
02:21:30,160 --> 02:21:32,560
Speaker 4: to do. Me and Milists are sitting there, we're like

2930
02:21:33,440 --> 02:21:35,680
Speaker 4: at the same time, we're both like, we gotta pay

2931
02:21:35,760 --> 02:21:39,760
Speaker 4: these people. She and my wife was like, when they

2932
02:21:39,879 --> 02:21:43,200
Speaker 4: don't get paid, it ain't gonna be the producer. This

2933
02:21:43,400 --> 02:21:46,560
Speaker 4: person sad, it's gonna be keV on stage. Did not

2934
02:21:46,720 --> 02:21:49,680
Speaker 4: pay me and no one will care what really happened.

2935
02:21:50,080 --> 02:21:51,600
Speaker 4: So we had to reach back into our pocket for

2936
02:21:51,640 --> 02:21:54,600
Speaker 4: a second time and pay these people out. And they

2937
02:21:54,720 --> 02:21:57,280
Speaker 4: might not ever know that, but to us, it's like

2938
02:21:57,560 --> 02:21:59,240
Speaker 4: you trusted. I don't want to be the nigga rolled

2939
02:21:59,280 --> 02:22:00,879
Speaker 4: enough the window on you, and I don't care if

2940
02:22:00,879 --> 02:22:03,480
Speaker 4: it's fifty dollars, twenty five dollars, one hundred dollars. It's

2941
02:22:03,520 --> 02:22:05,480
Speaker 4: not about that, because I remember when I needed twenty

2942
02:22:05,520 --> 02:22:07,560
Speaker 4: five dollars and I'm telling you, nigga, I need it.

2943
02:22:08,240 --> 02:22:11,080
Speaker 4: It's accounted for, so I don't get I don't get

2944
02:22:11,120 --> 02:22:12,960
Speaker 4: to the point where I'm like, oh, nigga's the only

2945
02:22:13,280 --> 02:22:15,080
Speaker 4: nigga it's expensive out here.

2946
02:22:15,200 --> 02:22:16,039
Speaker 3: Promise this promise.

2947
02:22:16,240 --> 02:22:18,240
Speaker 4: I promise you trusted me with your thing, and you

2948
02:22:18,320 --> 02:22:20,680
Speaker 4: did your job, you did your part.

2949
02:22:21,480 --> 02:22:22,160
Speaker 3: I gotta do it.

2950
02:22:22,480 --> 02:22:24,640
Speaker 4: And that's my wife being like and we both were

2951
02:22:24,720 --> 02:22:27,520
Speaker 4: on that one. But it's like that person.

2952
02:22:27,560 --> 02:22:27,880
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2953
02:22:28,000 --> 02:22:30,680
Speaker 4: That person could become Denzel. It could be them, and

2954
02:22:30,720 --> 02:22:32,680
Speaker 4: that story's either gonna be kept took care of me

2955
02:22:33,200 --> 02:22:35,320
Speaker 4: or kept screw me over. And I don't ever want

2956
02:22:35,400 --> 02:22:37,879
Speaker 4: to be kept screwed me over. And that's that's how

2957
02:22:37,959 --> 02:22:40,280
Speaker 4: we operate our business. And I think I can sleep

2958
02:22:40,320 --> 02:22:41,880
Speaker 4: at night every night because I know I'm not screwing

2959
02:22:41,879 --> 02:22:44,080
Speaker 4: you over. You're saying're screwing me over. You are lying

2960
02:22:44,600 --> 02:22:47,560
Speaker 4: because I say it everything up front. I deliver on

2961
02:22:47,600 --> 02:22:49,880
Speaker 4: my promise, even if I don't get paid. If you

2962
02:22:49,959 --> 02:22:52,360
Speaker 4: trust me with your money, you getting paid. That's why

2963
02:22:52,400 --> 02:22:52,960
Speaker 4: you blessed.

2964
02:22:53,240 --> 02:22:55,240
Speaker 1: It's wauy. I'm blessed. And because I got one couchie,

2965
02:22:56,920 --> 02:22:59,080
Speaker 1: you know what, that's that's gonna that's that's you can

2966
02:22:59,120 --> 02:23:04,640
Speaker 1: add it some stuff out, you know what. I probably

2967
02:23:05,040 --> 02:23:06,240
Speaker 1: if it makes it, it makes it.

2968
02:23:06,400 --> 02:23:07,800
Speaker 3: My name is Jay Valentine.

2969
02:23:09,040 --> 02:23:12,920
Speaker 1: I just cave on stage and this is the RB

2970
02:23:13,080 --> 02:23:20,880
Speaker 1: Money Podcast. What if I got myself into. This is

2971
02:23:21,000 --> 02:23:22,200
Speaker 1: everything I hoped you would be