WEBVTT - Ep. 257: The Burrito Buck 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:13.320 This is me eater podcast coming at you shirtless, severely, 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:18.319 bug bitten and in my case, underwear listening podcast. You 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:22.600 can't predict anything presented by on X. Hunt creators are 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:26.160 the most comprehensive digital mapping system for hunters. Download the 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:29.440 Hunt app from the iTunes or Google play store, nor 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:37.200 where you stand with on X they are right off 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:41.400 the right up top, right off the bat the you 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:43.960 know on the couple on an episode ago or to 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:50.400 or know an episode ago. Um, we launched the what's 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:54.720 that called seth Brandon Butler's Cabin burned down by Poacher 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:57.160 go fund me. That's the hell of a name. The 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:59.800 go fund me site is called Brandon Butler's Cabin burned 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:03.560 Down by Poacher, And we gave everybody heads up about 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:05.440 this go funding that was put together for our friend 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:11.319 Brandon Butler, who whose cabin was burnt down. Uh in 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:17.600 mysterious temporal proximity. I like that sentence and mysterious temporal 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:22.399 proximity to him having reported a local poacher who he 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:26.959 I witnessed trying to jack light deer night before Deer 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:31.520 season opened. So Butler's buddy puts up this go funding 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:38.520 site and UM, you are you kind generous folks out 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:42.080 there have been kicking in heavy duty and the things 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:46.360 up to nineteen thousand, seven hundred and sixty eight dollars 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:51.560 four three donors. Now, Butler pointed out that he had 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.840 his place insured, but you know, he had all his 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.080 heirlooms and stuff there, and he also had a lot 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.160 of stuff that he uses to like host people and 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:03.080 do river trip us. And uh is that good dude 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:05.640 that tries to do good stuff with his place. There's 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:07.600 been like a major development and this deal, so we 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:09.440 wanted to have him come back, not just to talk 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:11.600 about the money. And he didn't set this thing up. 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:14.160 His body set it up. Did I clarify that? Yeah, 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:17.000 his buddy set it up. But he's gonna share this 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:20.080 kind of interesting development around this case of his place 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:24.560 getting pretty much smoked down to the ground. Brandon, but 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:27.640 the real quick man, glad you could uh join up 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:29.680 with this real quick here. Well, we'll probably have to 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:32.720 check in with you multiple times as this whole uh 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:36.919 deal plays out with your place getting burnt down, But uh, 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:38.880 give us as much as you can give us right 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:42.040 now about like the latest. Yeah, it was hard not 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.880 to tell you guys everything I knew last time, and 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:48.600 all your listeners and the readers of Patrick Durkin's article, 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:53.120 the outpouring of care and support has been overwhelming. So 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.120 first of all, thank you guys so much for the 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:59.720 opportunity to share the story. I also want to clear 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:01.239 up real quick. You know, in the article that I 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:04.560 did with Patrick, I had a number of people reach 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:07.800 out and say it sounds like he classified the whole 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:12.360 area as guilty, and of course that wasn't my intentions. 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.400 I mean, you guys have been down there. Anybody that's 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.960 followed my work knows how much I poured into try 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:22.680 and support that area. And I have lifelong friends that 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.400 I've made down there, and I love that area and 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:29.080 they're absolute salt of the earth people. What I was 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:33.120 talking about was a very local subculture. So when I 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:35.880 was talking about the culture, I was talking specifically to 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:39.120 my little neck of the wood, so to everybody in 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:42.600 southeast Missouri, Shannon County, Missouri. You know, I'm trying to 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.640 stand up against the people that have, you know, held 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:49.000 everybody down, held all the good people back. So it 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:52.400 wasn't a blanket statement. So with that out of the way, 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:57.480 I had game cameras up multiple game cameras, and I 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:00.680 even set kind of a dummy camera out where I 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:03.680 knew people would see it. The chip was missing from 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:07.120 that camera, but the arsonist did not did not find 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:10.840 the two cameras I had pointing at the front and 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:12.480 the back of the house. And they pulled the chip 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:15.320 from the dummy camera. They did, and they thought they 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.440 had They thought they had gotten away with it by 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.520 pulling the chip from my trap camera, and they did 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:23.200 not find the two cameras that I had in the woods. 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:26.159 So I've got the suspect on camera walking to the 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.800 house carrying a rifle and a bottle of accelerant. And 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:32.240 then I've got him walking away from the house carrying 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:34.839 just the rifle, and you can see fire coming out 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:37.000 of the back window. So he had broke out the 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:41.720 back window and and lit it from there. Um, he's 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:45.760 in jail now. He he showed up to his probation meeting. 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:51.600 This guy was in prison for for meth and firearms previously. 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:55.360 He's he's got about four pages of arrest records on 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:58.000 what we have here in Missouri called case net, where 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:02.000 you can look up what somebody's done in their lifetime, 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.560 and it's gonna be front page news and that local 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:09.560 newspaper this week coming out. Um, and it all is 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:13.960 tied to the poaching situation. Now, this guy's got multiple 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:18.680 poaching violations that he's been um arrested for in the 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.400 past on his case net. But he wasn't in the 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:26.279 truck that night. It was actually three women, and man, 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.680 I went all in cis on trying to figure out 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:33.279 who these people were and got to the shooter, who 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:36.240 was a girl and I'm not gonna use their names, 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:40.560 but it was a girl from St. Louis and then 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:47.760 coreries father's girlfriend. So that was the tie. Essentially, he 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.440 was going to be the hero for I guess these 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:54.840 women that came down the road at eight thirty at 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:58.280 night and and poached. But there's you know two of 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:02.880 the are all three now have have confessed and and 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:06.800 gave a swarm statement, and all three got tickets for 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:13.880 artificial light after dark or after hours and firearms from 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:15.640 a v are hunting from a vehicle. So they all 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:19.080 three got three tickets. And um, that's the whole, the 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:22.560 whole poaching story. Um, this guy's he's on a no 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:26.520 bond warrant right now in in jail, and if everything 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:31.520 goes well, he'll he's facing four different felonies and hopefully 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:35.120 he'll be uh reunited with his old chums in the 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:38.560 state pen here real soon. When you torch the dude's place, 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:43.039 what is that called? Well, I'm a arson Arson. I'm 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:47.080 really pushing and hoping that this becomes a federal case. Um. 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:50.360 I literally just met with the Lieutenant Governor of Missouri, 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:54.200 Mike Kehoe, two hours ago in the Capitol to talk 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:58.040 about the situation and what I've learned from law enforcement 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:01.359 down there. It's just a real hard place to be 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:05.240 a law enforcement officer. There's so much public land, it's 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.840 so remote and rural. There's there's no cell service across 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:12.640 most of the county. But I'm I'm trying to make 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:16.040 a case to the Department of Conservation and the Conservation 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:20.360 Commission that law enforcement doesn't need to be divided out equally. 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:23.200 So right now, in most cases of Missouri, we have 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:27.920 to uh conservation agents per county. I kind of liken 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:31.080 it to we have more law enforcement in urban areas 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:33.520 than we do in rural areas. When it comes to 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:37.720 city and state police. We need more law enforcement as 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:41.920 far as conservation and conservation agents in these rural areas 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:45.080 than we need and say St. Louis or Kansas City. 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:47.640 So hopefully there's going to be a change made that 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:51.960 will readdress the resources being applied to where they're most needed, 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:56.000 which is in some of these Southeast Missouri counties. And 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.680 then I've gotten a commitment from the Lieutenant governor to 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:04.160 explore a potential task force, joint task force with multiple 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.920 law enforcement agencies. And my next step is to talk 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:11.040 to an old senator friend of mine who is now 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:14.320 on the parole board to ensure that this guy's parole 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:18.560 is uh IS is revoked and he goes back to 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:21.080 prison on that as well. And then I'm I'm working 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.960 some channels to a couple of U. S congressman that 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:26.960 I know well who covered those counties, and we're just 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:30.080 making sure that this person goes away for a long 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:33.520 time because I have I've been reached out to in 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.160 the last twenty four hours by three other families that 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:38.680 have had their house burned down within five miles of 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:41.320 mine in the last year, and none of them had 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:45.200 cameras and and there's been no arrests. There's been no 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:50.480 arrests made, so it would only be speculation, but it 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:54.920 sounds pretty coincidental. Did those folks feel like, uh, those 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:58.720 incidences were some sort of retaliation or or or have 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.160 Did they have any idea? Do you have a cause? 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:05.520 One guy had to run in with a known associate 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:10.400 during muzzloader season last year, and then his cabin was 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.720 torched and it was his grandfather's cabin. It was handbuilt. 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:16.600 He didn't have any insurance on it. He lost so 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:19.640 many of his grandfather's possessions as well. Guy's name was 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:23.880 Dwayne uh Man. I've met so many strangers in the 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:28.720 last like forty eight hours that have you know, stories 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:32.360 about the same sort of things happening in other states 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.840 and across different parts of Missouri, you know. And I 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:39.040 told the Lieutenant governor, it's it is painful to tell 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.760 this story about a place that I came to love 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:45.439 so intimately. And you guys saw that when you were there, 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:47.640 you know, I was. I had you there because I 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:51.360 wanted to show you and your fan base like how 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:55.400 great this area is. And it's it's underserved in notoriety. 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.520 The natural resources, in the wildlife and the fish. It's 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:01.600 it's such a great area and there are good people there, 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:04.720 but everyone down there lives under the same cloud of 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.880 fear that if you if you stand up for what's right, 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:11.120 we're gonna burn your house down. And in my case, 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.280 I stood up for what's right and they burned my 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:17.040 house down. So there, you know, it's there's some reality 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:20.439 to it. And and it's a shame that this is 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.680 gonna cause other people to not go down there, and 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.959 it's gonna hurt the economy down there, and it's all 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:29.120 because of a few bad apples. Well, man, I appreciate 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:32.520 you coming on to catch us up on it, and when, uh, 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:36.520 when a couple more things shake out, um, I like 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:38.680 to have you back on again to to to fill 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:40.680 us in. And then we kind of were earlier. We 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.120 touched on what was going on on the go funding site, 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:46.560 which is great to see. So Brandon Butler, thanks a lot. Man. 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:51.120 Um as this you know, as whatever part three, you 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:52.640 let us know when you think it's time to come 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:55.480 back and and fill us in now where ship stands now, 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.400 then then now you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:01.840 thanks again for your guys support. It's been overwhelming, So 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:06.640 thank you. Yeah, man, take care. Uh Okay, we got 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:09.960 a couple uh we're still reeling from the pandemic here. 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:14.040 I'm now you've had it, right, Seth, Me and Seth 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:17.840 have had it. We're survivors, Yanni and call you guys 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.840 have not as far as you know, I haven't had it. No, No, 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:27.319 have any of you guys had it? Our remote guests? Nope, nope, nope. 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:30.040 Can you guys introduce yourselves? Do go ahead first, because 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:36.040 you're on the left of my screen. Yeah, why not 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:40.040 say what you do all that kind of stuff? Okay, Yeah, 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:43.480 my name is Duke Waste Unique Customer Service wrap over 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:47.960 here at First Light. Yeah. Answer phone calls eight hours 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:51.280 a day, five days a week. So I got a 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:55.000 big old meal here this year. That was nice. Yeah, 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.040 if we had a time, I'd like to I'd like 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:00.880 to add. I was talking to Josh Prestine moreing about this. 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:05.320 They're like, it is quite amazing that you can call 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:08.760 first Light. It's just regular old Joe Hunter. You got 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:13.920 some questions about gear and a dude, the Hunts. I 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:16.000 don't even you never gave me an actual number, Duke, 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:17.480 but I'm gonna go ahead and throw it out, like 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:20.720 two hundred days a year for mule Deer, maybe two fifty. 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.720 That's include scouting, looking and all that. Am I right? Am? 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:25.880 I approximately right now? But you still have a job, right. 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:29.000 What the hell's your guys vacation policy? Man? Well, that's 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:32.280 just the thing, man, Like your guys end of this business. 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:36.120 Get better vacation than these aren't full days. Like just 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:37.760 like as in skiing, if you go out and take 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:39.600 a couple of runs, accounts as a day of scheme. 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:43.120 So when he makes a quick jaunt, you know, three 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:45.000 miles into the woods in the morning, just look at 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.000 a deer for fifteen minutes and it makes it back 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:50.120 to work by eight. That counts kill. Let me let 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:51.520 me ask you. I got a couple of things we 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:54.400 gotta do. Dude, I don't want to go into too 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:56.320 great a detail. You got a nice deer this year, 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.360 really talked about where or anything. Had you ever seen 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.679 that deer before you got it? Yeah, quite a few times. 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:07.920 I actually missed that thing twice, so uh the year before. 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:12.360 Oh I see, I knew it quite well. Now real quick, 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:14.160 I want to finish my thought. The point of it 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:18.360 being that you can just like you're gonna get customer 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:21.960 service from a dude that is just like an absolute 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:28.120 back country, mule deer, professional expert, whatever you want to 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:32.160 call it. You're not just like getting just some rando 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:34.920 that just learned the First Light line recently, and it 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:38.240 is gonna recommend you know that you use the middle 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:41.319 of the road base layer because you know it should 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.400 work for all things. Like Duke's gonna really dive in 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.240 and just give you a top level service from a 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:49.320 lot of experience, give you the straight dope from a 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:51.600 real person. Yeah, I just I don't know. I can't 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:53.760 get over it. I mean, how many other companies can 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.280 say that they have someone with that kind of experience 0:13:56.320 --> 0:14:00.600 and success doing customer service for him? Do did you 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.800 know this? Uh? Never mind. I was gonna quiz you 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:06.400 on something that's in the news, but that's not fair. Okay, 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:09.920 Phil changed my screen around Chase Chase. Now it's not 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:11.960 left right anymore. Now it's like you guys are like, 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.400 I don't know what you call that? Just different, Chase, 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:18.400 Go ahead, what do you do, Chase Millman? I run 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:23.520 operations for First Light Meet or fhf UM. And I 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:27.040 think it's worth noting that from Duke's introduction that Cal 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:30.680 thought his name was Buck for half the trip, let's 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:32.800 get that out on the open, which if you know 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.840 the Monkey Ranch Gang like it's it's a great little crossover, 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.120 I feel. Yeah. I'll point out these guys are on 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.240 and joining us remotely, they're all down and catch them 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:43.240 where First Light is based because they're just coming back 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:50.920 from So seth, Yanni cal Duke, you just met Chase, 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.520 who you're meeting Matt who you haven't met yet or 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:59.080 all just returning from the the Sonora accused your trip 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.440 that I was unable to oh because I had been Uh, 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:08.680 I was afflicted. So what else you gotta say for yourself, Chase? 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.880 Not a whole lot. That's about. That's about all there 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:13.880 is to say about me on the on the work side, 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:18.720 got uh you got like a wife girlfriend. I did 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:22.040 not have a wife girlfriend. We'll hook you up, man, 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:25.680 I do have a girlfriend. Oh, I haven't hooked me 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:27.520 up in a long time. Man, I'm kind of itching 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:31.200 to hook somebody up. Okay. And then Matt, my name 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:35.840 is Matt de Roger's. I'm the line manager for De 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:40.160 Roger's something Matt d I answered all of them now, 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:44.560 but I managed Western Big Game product line at First Sight. 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:48.160 All right, Okay, we gotta take care of a couple 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:49.600 of things. What I wanted to share with you guys, 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.240 Yanni and Seth, do you know that you know on 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:56.400 the past episode when we had Luke Combs and dan 0:15:56.520 --> 0:16:00.840 Isabel on ye yes, and they were just releasing that 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.440 tune that they played for us. I think we even 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:09.360 had them playing that tune on Instagram or something. We 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:14.720 definitely recorded better together. Yeah, Kylie just told me it 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:18.760 just hit number one. So I sent Luke and dan 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:25.240 attacks yesterday like saying how uh, congratulating him and saying 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:30.600 how I had such proximity to that to them their 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:33.640 process of writing the song that I felt a little 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:39.120 bit like I had written it. And dan Isbel wrote 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.720 back and said, that's in keeping with you being a 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.840 hunting TV host and that you always take credit for 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:53.280 ship you did not do h hurt, which hurt man. 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:54.960 It's all he's hitting a little close to home of 0:16:55.040 --> 0:17:00.320 that ship. Man. Yeah, he's pretty sharp that I think he. 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:03.040 I think he might. I think maybe all of our 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:07.760 talk about everybody likes to ask, you know, if it's 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:14.040 so much harder um hunting with a crew, and I 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.399 would point out that we scare more, but we spot 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:17.800 a hell of a lot more. You know, it's a 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:23.280 lot more eyeballs looking around. Um, so, cal do you 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:24.800 know what's up with that? I wanted to tell people 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:28.320 about this Oklahoma deal. Yeah, I mean it's like kind 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:32.480 of like but this is a real politician. There is 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:38.040 a real life politician, like elected to office who I 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:41.960 can only imagine is acting on behalf of a very 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:47.399 very niche part of his constituency. And he's introduced a 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:53.360 bill to get the Oklahoma Fish and Wildlife to institute 0:17:54.600 --> 0:18:01.040 a legal bigfoot hunting season. Yeah. Now if he's been 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:04.320 pressured by a constituent, we hear from this constituent. Because 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:08.880 people don't realize Oklahoma is a real sleeper bigfoot locale. 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:11.679 Oh I did not know that. I don't know that. 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:18.359 Everybody's always thinking it's like Oregon, Washington, Michigan, Peninsula, Pacific Northwest, 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:20.720 you know, and I'm naming like wildly different places. But 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:23.000 but no, but they all have something in common common. 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:28.600 It's kind of like that northern thick some wet, wet dank, yeah, 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:33.680 bigfoot country. So I'm sure the serious big foot hunters 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:39.600 are like many hunters thinking when it a specified season 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:44.280 opens up it's not to protect the resource. It's going 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:48.600 to exploit the resource even more because new regulations off 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.760 and draw a lot of new eyeballs. Right, So I'm 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:55.400 sure the resident big foot hunters in Oklahoma are really 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:58.200 shaking their heads that the spotlights being put on that. Yeah, 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:01.080 it's like a spot burn, Yeah, Oklahoma spot burn on 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:04.919 bigfoot hunting. The dude the Oklahoma that wrote us a 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:07.520 lot of nasty letters. Do you remember when we had 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:13.720 remember Laura was it Crats Crantz. She did this whole 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:16.320 podcast on like bigfoot people, and we had her on 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:20.160 to talk about bigfoot people and it got this Oklahoma 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:23.280 dude super fired up, and it wrote us a bunch 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:26.600 of letters. And he's a bigfoot person and they hunt 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:32.000 bigfoot's and he wrote in letters about them shooting guns 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:34.080 at things they heard off in the woods and whatnot 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:38.480 at night. But they haven't gotten one yet, and he 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:41.600 wants to be able to kill it so he can 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:45.840 be like for that your pipe and smoking. He wants 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:48.600 a dead one. But I think, hey, they want to 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:53.280 not get in trouble when they get one or have 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:56.400 anybody take it from him. Yeah, I'm hoping that if 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:59.520 there is a season. Then there will also be a 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:02.960 lice or a tag that's part of the bill that's 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:06.760 uh covered in section one. In fact, does it have 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:10.239 a price, I believe the price would be set by 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:16.040 Oklahoma Wildlife Conservation Commission, but it does say a season 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:22.199 and license. I'm hoping it could just be like a 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.760 boon to the department, as in some extra revenue. But 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:27.920 I also don't want it to promote more of what 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:30.680 you just described, shooting that stuff, running off through the 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:37.040 woods at night, shooting, shooting it sounds in the night. Well, yeah, 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:39.320 because what it was he like the minute I saw 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:41.439 I had two legs and was standing up right, I 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:44.840 started shooting two years ago. Was the state of Michigan. 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:50.760 Somebody hit somebody that he was Oh that was Montana. Yeah. 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:54.120 The guy put a big foot suit on, jumped out 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:56.480 on the road to spook someone and got hit and killed. 0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:01.120 Hopefully would have thought he had like a real Harry 0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:04.360 in the Henderson's moment. Man, keep imagine like that poor guy. 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:05.920 We should find that person, get him on the show. 0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:10.119 Hopefully the season is closed during Halloween mm hmmm and 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:17.840 any other hunting season. Yeah, it's the world coming to um. 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:20.919 I want it out real quick. What's this feller's name again? Murtz? 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:25.560 Oh yeah, I have his letter right here, right now. 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:31.000 It is John Murtz, John or you found it? What? Okay? 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:35.200 My wife's sending a picture of the letter. Now. Why 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:40.200 do you think that the spearing decoy that John Murtz 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:43.600 made for you is somehow superior to my spearing decoy 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:50.280 that he made for me? Well, in my very minimal 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:58.200 dark house spearing uh experience, I've had great luck with 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:03.160 red and white in mine because of the Latvian colors. 0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:06.600 Matvian flag colors came red and white, and it's just like, 0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:09.199 you know, like you were a catch fish on like 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:13.680 the red devil spoon. Yeah, Like it's that color combinations 0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:18.600 of There's a very popular surf casting rattle plug surface 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:22.120 thing that's classically red and white. That's right, red head, 0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:24.199 white body. You can't think of the name of it. 0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:27.480 But I think that mine is this color. To see, 0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:30.920 they were all customized. Cal He sent cal one that 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:34.800 has a mustache. It's a cute little bust. It's like 0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:38.200 a sand Juan worm mustache glued on to the front. 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:40.320 I think mine. I didn't. I never made up if 0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:41.879 it ain't shark truce. It ain't no use. But I 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:44.040 think maybe I was like quoting it and he heard 0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:48.119 me say that. Even though it's not my saying, I 0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:52.359 believe it's you know, I buy it, but I didn't 0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:57.800 come up with it. But I'm gonna I'm gonna use 0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:01.040 this thing this weekend. And I just head Travis Barton, 0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:08.320 the fancy fireman welder uh who normally welds like stuff 0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:11.800 for nice houses, handrail and stuff. But I keep telling 0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:14.920 him that's bad for his soul and he needs to 0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:18.800 do like weird hunting and fishing welding projects to keep 0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:22.320 him like in touch with his true self. How does 0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:24.359 he feel about that? He believes me that it's true 0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:28.640 because he just made us to Pike spears chase over 0:23:28.720 --> 0:23:30.640 at first, like he's going all the way to come 0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:35.080 chodka to fish for steelhead and ensure that he can 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:38.840 go all the way across the world and have a 0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:41.919 successful trip. I'm gonna paint him up some sharp truce 0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:47.359 beads to guarantee some fishing successful. That's nice when I 0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:52.920 call those bees are aren't making the trip? Cal? Oh well, 0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:54.800 Cal made you a special beat and you're not. And 0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:57.000 you're not gonna bring it with you. What's the deal, Chase. 0:23:57.920 --> 0:23:59.920 You need a little you need a little background here. 0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:05.560 There's like he's going to catch these steelhead right that 0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:09.760 only live there. It's like this, it's like this steelhead 0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:11.960 trip of all steel head trips to go over to 0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:18.760 far East um Russia and fish to come Chodka. And 0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:22.840 he is going to stick to like some purist type 0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:27.720 techniques and would rather only catch twenty with purist techniques 0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:32.120 than a hundred by fishing of plastic bead And it's 0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:36.639 a research trip where every fish is uh you know, 0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:45.080