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Speaker 2: get blown out by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers thirty to seven.

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Speaker 2: Here MetLife Stadium, John Schmelt, Johnathan Casias, the Voice of

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Speaker 2: the Giants, Bob Papa with you from MetLife Stadium, and

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Speaker 2: jac will start with you. It's hard to really pick

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Speaker 2: out anything that you can feel good about aft out

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Speaker 2: of this game. It was really just a dominating performance

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Speaker 2: by the Buccaneers from start to finish. The outgame the

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Speaker 2: forty five. And I think we'd all be careful not

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Speaker 2: to take too much out of a second half where

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Speaker 2: the Bucks were playing very soft defenses for much of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Giants were getting buried from the beginning of

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Speaker 3: the game. You know, Tampa Bay right away had the

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Speaker 3: long drive which took up over half the first quarter,

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Speaker 3: scored a touchdown. Giants get the ball. You know, they

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Speaker 3: had a sack with an unblock player, which if de

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Speaker 3: Vida avoided, Evan Neil gets beat by Canty and you

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Speaker 3: know he makes a sack. You know, the Giants been

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Speaker 3: digging themselves in holes, especially at home. You know, but

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Speaker 3: today I saw a different team.

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Speaker 4: Today.

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Speaker 3: I saw an uninspired group that lack effort a lot

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Speaker 3: throughout the whole entirety of the game, offensively and defensively.

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Speaker 3: And that's why you look at the score, and you know,

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Speaker 3: then you know the Giants are down thirty seven and

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Speaker 3: the beginning of the fourth quarter and there was no

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Speaker 3: reconciliation for that. It was just a bad start and

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Speaker 3: then the lack of effort and looked like an uninspired

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, the big talk before the game,

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Speaker 2: Bob was about the quarterback changing all that. But the

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Speaker 2: quarterback aside and the offense didn't play well. Obviously looked

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Speaker 2: the same anyway. It looked the same anyway, but the defense.

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Speaker 2: Five of the bucks first six drives they score points.

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Speaker 1: They punted just once.

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Speaker 2: They had drives of seventy yards, eighty two yards, eighty

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Speaker 2: six yards, and ninety five yards. The defense did not

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Speaker 2: come and deliver coming off of a bye week this week.

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Speaker 5: No, not at all.

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Speaker 6: And you know, just their lack of being into the game,

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Speaker 6: alertness tackling you. You're down seven to nothing, okay, and

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Speaker 6: you go for it on fourth down and you don't

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Speaker 6: get it. You know, Wandell gets up in. You don't

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Speaker 6: get the fourth down. So now they start with the

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Speaker 6: short field. They march down the field and now you

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Speaker 6: have them in a gold to goal situation and you

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Speaker 6: everybody in the Giants is just standing around.

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Speaker 5: It almost hit a Giant player.

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Speaker 4: In the foot.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Brian Burns and Baker Mayfield comes diving in to

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Speaker 5: Hey, down seven nothing, be alert, be aware, be into

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Speaker 5: the game. Hey you recover that.

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Speaker 6: It's a momentum switch, right, it's a moment it's now

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Speaker 6: it's just seven to nothing.

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Speaker 5: They wind up kicking the field goal. You're hold in

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Speaker 6: You get the ball in plus territory in the second quarter,

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Speaker 6: and listen John Michael Smith's got embarrassed on that play.

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Speaker 6: He just got completely run over. Knocks, you had a

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Speaker 6: Tracy fumbles the football away. It's neighbors with a drop

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Speaker 6: like you just can't keep doing these things, man, But

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Speaker 6: it's been happening all season long, and that's why you're

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Speaker 6: unfortunately two and nine at this point in time.

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Speaker 2: in Warmer we returned, Giants Fall to the Bucks thirty

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Speaker 2: Back here on Giants extra Point, Giants fall to the

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Speaker 2: Johsh Bel, Jonathan you see, is Bob Papa with you

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Speaker 2: on Giants extra point? The Giants fall to the Buccaneers

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Speaker 2: thirty to seven. Here at MetLife Stadium, We're keeping an

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Speaker 2: eye on the rest of the games around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Cavante Chirpin just had a kickoff return for a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: After initially misfielding the kickoff, runs it all the way

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Speaker 2: back for a touchdown. Dallas now leads the Commanders twenty

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Speaker 2: seven to seventeen with two forty nine to go in

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Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving in just three days time.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean they looked abysmal on Monday night against

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Speaker 6: Houston and now they're going on the road in a

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Speaker 6: rivalry game. When you think of the Giants, when you

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Speaker 6: think of the Cowboys, and you think of Washington, you

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Speaker 6: and these crazy games. So yeah, it's an entertaining game.

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Speaker 6: But I don't really know where to pick up the

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Speaker 6: This is this is hard to believe that this is

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Speaker 6: the effort that the team gave coming off.

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Speaker 2: Of buy and you figured that coming off everything that

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Speaker 2: later in the week, there did to be there seemed

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Speaker 1: There was good energy in the locker room.

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Speaker 2: There might have been a little bit of annoyance about

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Speaker 1: The level of execution was just very, very poor.

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Speaker 6: I mean, there was a lot of talk about positive

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Speaker 5: And then what happened.

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Speaker 3: They came on the field of who Yeah, I think

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Speaker 3: But I never I've never seen the effort as slow

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Speaker 5: The other thing, too, is man. I mean it's you

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Speaker 6: It's like they're just waiting for the Giants to be

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Speaker 6: can clearly see they're free to all right, they're going

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Speaker 6: the spy or the shadow is not going to spire shadow.

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Speaker 6: How many quarterbacks this year now have killed the Giants

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Speaker 6: with a run when they're in man. Bryce Young did

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Speaker 6: number two, and Baker Mayfield today. You could just see

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Speaker 6: be looking. I'm taking off eleven games into the season.

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Speaker 6: You can see it up here in the box as

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Speaker 5: That's exactly what they're gonna do. And you keep getting

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Speaker 2: And then two other continuing issues. Another red zone turnover,

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Speaker 5: The n't count that because to me, you ran a

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Speaker 1: That's fair.

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Speaker 5: Here you're running a play and you're just handing the

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go down to coaching Dable. He's addressing

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Speaker 2: the media after the game.

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Speaker 9: Then, Okay, tough game, gift Tampa credit. They did everything

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it wasn't good. Damn wasn't good. You know, for

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Speaker 9: a good week of practice, you know, did a lot

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Speaker 4: Why do you think that didn't happen.

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Speaker 9: Well, they played well and we didn't play well. So

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Speaker 9: you know, get down twenty three to nothing, you know,

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Speaker 9: just just not good enough, and that all starts with me.

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Speaker 4: How much you can either, if at.

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Speaker 11: All, everything that happened this week with Daniel in.

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Speaker 9: The whole situation, No, no excuse on that. Just didn't

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Speaker 9: No, we're moved on here. You know, we just we

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Speaker 14: This starts with me in the context of doing it

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Speaker 9: Yeah, no, we weren't good, Pat, So no excuses. You know,

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Speaker 9: it wasn't a good day.

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Speaker 11: What did you tell the team after a performance like that?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, just that you know, I think there's a lot

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Speaker 9: of prideful people, but what we put out there wasn't

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Speaker 9: but but didn't do a good enough job. And again

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Speaker 9: had you know, had a good week and we started

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Speaker 9: out slow, got down twenty three nothing, you know, things

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Speaker 9: but but ultimately not not good enough. Yeah, no, good

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Speaker 9: you know, again there's no excuses. It was it wasn't

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Speaker 4: Over twenty five years with this team.

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Speaker 11: Why has it been a week over week issue.

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Speaker 9: I think they played well and he played He played

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Speaker 16: Frian, do you start when you talk about having a

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Speaker 4: You've thought up before the game.

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Speaker 11: What are so many things?

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Speaker 9: See the defense, Yeah, that we we got to do

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we're just missing them. You know we've missed. We

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Speaker 11: Neighbors targeted the first at why was he not involved?

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Speaker 9: But you know it didn't have very many plays Dan,

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Speaker 17: How do you defense the team that the big you

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Speaker 15: You moved on from him, But there were a number

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Speaker 11: Namely Dexter, and then to have this performance, I mean,

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Speaker 4: Are you worried? Yeah?

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Speaker 18: How much do you think this was a pot like

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Speaker 9: Yeah again, George, I just say we're we're Look Daniel's

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Speaker 11: Maybe you're starter next week.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we'll see if he's If he's healthy and ready

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Speaker 9: Any concern that this could still ball, just trying to

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Speaker 9: each week, certainly not you know the performance that we

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Speaker 4: Job, Davis.

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Speaker 19: You've talked about execution all along. Are you concerned with

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Speaker 9: The week, but no, I mean we got to do.

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Speaker 18: You mentioned miss tackles though a bunch of times the

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Speaker 11: What do you what do you say to that?

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Speaker 20: You know we had some.

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Speaker 9: I had some so many tackles.

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Speaker 11: If you don't think it's effort, what what's the other.

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Speaker 9: Technique? Give credit to the other guys eyes making us

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Speaker 10: Enough all the time, always on the last rove.

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Speaker 9: Just try to finish the game, you know, give give

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Speaker 21: Tommy did take quite a few big hits. He actually,

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Speaker 11: Pricy Pracy came back into the kitchen.

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Speaker 9: With the Yeah, you know, he turned he turned the

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Speaker 9: Yeah, something we got to, you know, continue to stress

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Speaker 14: Do you have concern about your job security after a

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Speaker 11: You're safe and can coach out this season?

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Speaker 4: About the results?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I just you know, I I feel for the

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Speaker 11: See, it's your last four How much do you even

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Speaker 18: I mean, how much does that even go through your

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the only thing that goes is how we're gonna

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Speaker 4: Okay? All right?

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Speaker 2: Was the coaches press conference brought to you by Hacking

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Speaker 2: and analysis and a whole lot more on Giants Extra Point,

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Speaker 2: Giants Fall to the Bucks thirty seven.

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Speaker 1: Here at Live.

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Speaker 2: Back here on Giants Extra Point Giants Fall to the

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Speaker 2: ten Day Buccaneers thirty to seven.

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Speaker 1: John Schmelt Jonathan can see.

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Speaker 2: Is Bob Papa with you from the home radio booth

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Speaker 2: here at MetLife Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Gentlemen, we just heard from Brian Dab with the podium. Bob.

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Speaker 1: Your reaction from what the coach had to say?

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Speaker 5: Uh, I mean, what's he gonna say?

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Speaker 6: First of all, he hasn't looked at the tape, which

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Speaker 6: He's gonna give you some broad based, generic answers and

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Speaker 6: they got to play better, you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what else to say, man Like guys

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Speaker 2: And by the way, he didn't soft pedal this, like

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I don't know what to say at

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Speaker 5: I don't know what they I don't know what they

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Speaker 6: But you know, over the last five games, the Giants

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Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty six not much better?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's hard to win the NFL when

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Speaker 6: The yardage is about the same, The quarterbacks rushing numbers

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Speaker 5: Pretty hard to win that way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it looked the same today. Today, looked the same

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Speaker 5: Can we talk about just some fun stuff right now?

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Speaker 1: Yees?

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Speaker 6: So the Chicago Bears recover an onside kick against Minnesota

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was thirty seconds, thirty seconds to go and

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable, and that the commander. I thought they might

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Speaker 2: They gonna kick the extra point here, send it the

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Speaker 2: overtime and we'll see if they do again. The Giants

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Speaker 1: This is the extra point you hooked. That's Austin. That's

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Speaker 5: He just hooked it left.

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Speaker 2: And he missed the field goal earlier in this game too,

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Speaker 2: But what a while finish with Dallas at the commanders, I.

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Speaker 1: We're an NFL broadcast. I think they'll give us a break.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, they Oh it wasn't even close that like.

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Speaker 6: If you're old enough to remember the Indianapolis coach when

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Speaker 5: Oh my good, cowboys are gonna win.

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Speaker 1: You know what that looked like?

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Speaker 2: Look after I like slice three straight t shots and

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Speaker 2: you just yank it to the left.

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Speaker 1: That's what that looked like.

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Speaker 5: Let's go back to the Giants here.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, but look JC they obviously Brian David talked

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Speaker 2: about the tackling. When you see the tackling, what do

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Speaker 2: you see as a linebackers your job to tackle? What's

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Speaker 2: going on with this? How many short passes in the

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Speaker 2: flat did they have?

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Speaker 1: Today?

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Speaker 2: Runs where one or two guys but usually just one

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Speaker 2: one on one as a chance of the tackle, and

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Speaker 2: they're failing to complete those tackles.

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Speaker 3: And I say this almost every pregame, how difficult it

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Speaker 3: is to bring somebod these backs down, somebody's wide receivers down.

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Speaker 3: They're extremely talented. But it's your job as a defender

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Speaker 3: to tackle, you know, it's your job as an offensive

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Speaker 3: player to block, right. The basics of football is blocking

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Speaker 3: and tackling, right. You know, the Giants haven't been a

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Speaker 3: good tackling team at all this year, and you can

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Speaker 3: look at the rush yards that they give up per game.

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Speaker 3: But for me, it's the collective effort that I haven't seen.

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen guys violently ripping off of Blox to

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Speaker 3: get to the tackle. Because those zone plays that that

468
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Speaker 3: most NFL teams run, no zone plays can't hit anywhere.

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Speaker 3: They can go front side, they can go backside, and

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Speaker 3: they're looking for the weak link. But how do you

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Speaker 3: do that? You destroy blocks in front of you. The

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Speaker 3: Giants are just sitting on blocks, whether it's front side,

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Speaker 3: whether it's backside, and they're almost relying on one person

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Speaker 3: to make a tackle. And it's almost impossible to do

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Speaker 3: that as a defense. I think that's why you see collectively,

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Speaker 3: week in and week out, the Giants are giving up

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Speaker 3: rush yards after rush yards, after big rush plays, after

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Speaker 3: little rush plays. Just consistently happens all year.

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Speaker 5: Jonathan will ask you about this.

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Speaker 1: Well, now, Dallas just to recover the onsite cake return

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Speaker 1: for touchdowns.

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Speaker 5: Pretty good, right now.

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Speaker 6: I have to ask you about this though, Jonathan. This

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Speaker 6: has been going on all year, right, so you keep saying,

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Speaker 6: how do you fix it? It's been going on since

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Speaker 6: week one and it's been a thread the whole season.

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Speaker 6: So does that mean that what you're teaching ain't working?

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is the first game that we saw

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Speaker 6: where it looked like the Giants kind of let go

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Speaker 6: of the rope, so to speak, early too early. But

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Speaker 6: with that said, is it what is it?

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Speaker 20: Is?

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Speaker 6: It's part schematic where you're not feeling like you're in

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Speaker 6: the right position. I'm asking, I'm asking for a friend,

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Speaker 6: because it's been going on for since week number one?

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Speaker 6: Is it go back to training camp and what they

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Speaker 6: did as far as preparation for the season and whatever

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Speaker 6: they did.

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Speaker 5: Never do that again because it ain't working.

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Speaker 6: But it's a consistent theme, and you always hear you

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Speaker 6: know every week Daveson, we got to tackle better.

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Speaker 5: We gotta tackle better, we gotta tackle better. We got

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Speaker 5: to clean up the tackling.

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Speaker 6: But it's not changing. So my question to you is

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Speaker 6: it's got to be more than just effort, or does it?

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Speaker 6: Because all I know is Bobbiocaraka last year was a

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Speaker 6: tackling machine. Bobbio Caraka last year had one hundred and

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Speaker 6: fifty tackles and played every single snap of the year.

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Speaker 6: Dexter Lart Michael McFadden had ninety eight tackles last year.

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Speaker 6: I mean Pinnock had eighty five tackles last year. Like,

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Speaker 6: they tackled, and they tackled, and they tackled some more.

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Speaker 5: So what is it.

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Speaker 6: I know there's a new defensive coordinator, it's a new scheme,

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Speaker 6: but it's more than just saying we got to clean

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Speaker 6: it up because we're eleven games in and nothing's gotten

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Speaker 6: cleaned up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So from my experience, you know, my first year here

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Speaker 3: in New York is twenty fifteen. Steve Spagnola was the

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Speaker 3: defensive coordinator and we were not good defensively.

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Speaker 5: It was one of the worst statistically, the worst season ever.

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Speaker 1: With a crazy effort, right ever.

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Speaker 3: But the second year had a couple of pieces come in,

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Speaker 3: you know, Snacks, Harrison, Olivia, Vernet, Genoras, Jenkins, some people

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Speaker 3: came in. We drastically got better, like drastically. And I

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Speaker 3: don't know if it was just the addition of new

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Speaker 3: players people like myself playing at the right position, you know.

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Speaker 3: But for me, it's it's a combination of all of

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Speaker 3: the things that you were asking earlier. I think is

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Speaker 3: the new defensive coordinator. I think the way that they're

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Speaker 3: practicing now I'm talking about collectively as the NFL. I

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Speaker 3: think that has the factor in on why you're seeing,

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Speaker 3: you know, the tackling not being as efficient as it

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Speaker 3: once was even last year, you know. And then look

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Speaker 3: the energy today. I just didn't see the energy from

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Speaker 3: the beginning of the game.

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Speaker 5: And then there's a couple other factors.

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Speaker 6: Ashawn Robinson, a veteran pros pro, was not on the

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Speaker 6: team this year, and we saw what he did against

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Speaker 6: the Giants, and he's having a really good year for Carolina.

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Speaker 6: The younger guys that have been asked to step up

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Speaker 6: to assume his role have not played to the level

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Speaker 6: that he played at. And then you take out Xavier McKinney,

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Speaker 6: who was a fantastic safety. So you start taking out

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Speaker 6: some of these guys out of the mix, and then

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Speaker 6: you change the scheme, and I mean, I'm just at

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Speaker 6: a loss because nothing, nothing's getting fixed.

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Speaker 5: It's just the same everything.

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Speaker 1: And there are two other things that have been a

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Speaker 1: common theme throughout the year.

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Speaker 5: Guys.

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Speaker 2: One, the Giants have not won the turnover battle on

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Speaker 2: any in any game.

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Speaker 1: Well, they actually.

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Speaker 2: Forced four fumbles today only recovered one of them, so

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Speaker 2: there were once again even one to one.

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Speaker 1: Have not won the turnover battle again. But the other problem.

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Speaker 3: Turnover on downs. I count those as turnovers too, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but it doesn't count a couple.

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying. I get Giants also got stopped on downs, right, Well,

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Speaker 5: that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: But when the Giants turn the ball over on turnover

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Speaker 3: on downs could be front down, they turn it over

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Speaker 3: at their thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the Bucks also had a couple turnovers on downs

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Speaker 2: as well, so it doesn't count the official I got you,

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Speaker 2: I got you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The other thing that's been consistent is the big point ratio. Right,

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Speaker 2: So in this game, the Ten Bay Buccaneers had a

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Speaker 2: fifty six yard run by Beck, Bucky Irving, a thirty

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Speaker 2: two yard a catch and run by Bucky Irving, a

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Speaker 2: thirty yard catch by Caydtten, a thirty yard deep catch

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Speaker 2: by Jarrett, and a twenty six yard catch by Mike Evans.

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Speaker 1: So six plays of twenty five yards or more.

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Speaker 2: The Giants had a twenty three yard play which was

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Speaker 2: their longest, and only one other play of more than

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Speaker 2: twenty yards a twenty one yard past the Elak neighbors.

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Speaker 1: So once again, the big play.

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Speaker 2: Differential a huge factor here in terms of your inability

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Speaker 2: to score points.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like every home game, every home game, we've had

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Speaker 3: that big plays against the defense, not plays on offense.

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Speaker 3: I think one of the games the Giants had, what

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Speaker 3: the the longest play with fourteen yards was the the

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Speaker 3: Philly game.

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Speaker 12: The longest play with.

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Speaker 6: Fourteen they had to They had back to back weeks

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Speaker 6: with the longest play from Scrimmer.

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Speaker 3: It was fourteen fifteen yards, and then you know, giving

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Speaker 3: up multiple plays over thirty eight yards. I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: been kind of the recipe for the Giants to lose,

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Speaker 3: definitely at home. That's the Giants recipe. They don't tackle

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Speaker 3: well at all, defense consistently give up big plays in

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Speaker 3: the run game and the passing game. Some teams don't

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Speaker 3: even have to pass the ball with efficiency with the

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Speaker 3: Giants because they can just run the ball at will,

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Speaker 3: you know. And I think that's what you saw today.

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Speaker 3: And Baker Mayfield in this Tampa Bay offense is a

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Speaker 3: pass happy offense. But they got very comfortable running the

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Speaker 3: football today, you know. I think that's because they didn't fear.

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Speaker 3: There wasn't no fear. There wasn't no threat from the

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Speaker 3: Giants defense that was gonna look like they'll be able

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Speaker 3: to slow them down. They were gonna go for it

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Speaker 3: on fourth down whenever they wanted to, and they had

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Speaker 3: no fear of them, you know, stopping getting.

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Speaker 12: Stopped at all.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna tak a quick time out. We'll

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Speaker 2: come back. We'll have more sound from the locker room,

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Speaker 2: more analysis. Carl Banks will join us, will take your

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Speaker 2: calls as well. That and a whole lot more coming

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Speaker 2: your way on Giants Extra Point. The Giants fall to

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Speaker 2: the Buccaneers thirty to seven.

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Speaker 7: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the WFAN Giants

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Speaker 7: Radio Network.

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Speaker 13: This is Tommy DeVito and you're listening to the radio

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Speaker 13: home of Big Blue the Fan, WFAN and Wfan FM,

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Speaker 13: New York Practice Field and just it has to click.

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Speaker 20: That's it.

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Speaker 4: What do you think the key is to get to

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Speaker 4: get to click?

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Speaker 20: Just finishing details.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, Tommy will all the emotions of the week, you

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Speaker 19: get out there and for them to jump out the.

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Speaker 4: Way they did against you guys.

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Speaker 19: I mean you come in at halftime, what what's the mood?

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Speaker 19: I mean, how do you get a read for this

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Speaker 19: team and where you guys are at right now?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, at that point it was, you know, as we

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Speaker 13: treated as zero zero ball game. You don't have to

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Speaker 13: try to get it all back at once. You can't

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Speaker 13: get it all back and once, not in one drive,

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Speaker 13: but to go down and put together a drive and

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Speaker 13: to go down the field and give the offense back

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Speaker 13: our confidence. And I think that you know, obviously we

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Speaker 13: did a good job of going down the field. We

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Speaker 13: just have to finish it to really solidify that and

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Speaker 13: put us back in the game. But at halftime, everybody

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Speaker 13: who's up motivated, ready to go. It's not that's never

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Speaker 13: a question. There's no hanging heads. There's nobody allows that

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Speaker 13: to happen, and nobody does that. So we just got

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Speaker 13: to keep that going, but ultimately we got to come

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Speaker 13: out faster in the first half.

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Speaker 23: Tommy, do you sense a lack of confidence and well,

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Speaker 23: do you sense it lack of confidence at a little

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Speaker 23: in this offense?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 13: No, I think it starts with the leader. I think

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Speaker 13: it starts with Davis. He's a very confident guy, and

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Speaker 13: then obviously trickles down and I think like as a

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Speaker 13: quarterback group, the receivers are confident. I think everybody's confident.

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Speaker 13: I think we're just when it comes together, you know,

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Speaker 13: just breathe into each other, just when things do go wrong,

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Speaker 13: or something does go wrong, so there was a miss

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Speaker 13: block or you know, balls in the ground, is just

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Speaker 13: bringing that whole group together to that one guy to

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Speaker 13: just bring that confidence back into him knowing he's gonna

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Speaker 13: be good for the next play.

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Speaker 20: We got his back.

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Speaker 15: Tommy, what was your reaction to the bigger me deal

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Speaker 15: to you're a touchdown celebration?

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Speaker 13: Honestly, I really didn't know until someone just mentioned locker room.

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Speaker 13: I mean they were having a good game, they celebrated,

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Speaker 13: is what it is. Kind of happened last year. I

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Speaker 13: mean it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 24: I guess, Tommy, you know, most of the quarter get

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Speaker 24: quarterbacks get most of the blame and most of the

668
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Speaker 24: too much of the credit, too much of the blame.

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Speaker 24: Do you kind of sit there and say, they wanted

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Speaker 24: me to give him a spark, but it was kind

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Speaker 24: of hard today to do that.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean I pride myself on that. I mean,

673
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Speaker 13: you know, you always want to be that sparked. The

674
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Speaker 13: quarterback is a sparking any offense, not just right now

675
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Speaker 13: what it is obviously with the way things have been going,

676
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Speaker 13: but across the NFL, like everything flows through the through

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Speaker 13: the quarterback. So yeah, I do I take that, you

678
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 13: know heavy, being able to get more points going, to

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Speaker 13: get things going in the first half, you know, I

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Speaker 13: take that hardly. I'm gonna go, obviously, watch film, see

681
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Speaker 13: what I could have done better on my part, whether

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Speaker 13: that's on the field, whether it's off energizing the guys,

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Speaker 13: keeping the guys going, like anything in any way, shape

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Speaker 13: or form. Gonna analyze obviously, Like you said, you know,

685
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Speaker 13: quarterbacks good when it's.

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Speaker 20: Good, it's great. When it's bad, it's bad.

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Speaker 13: So being able to just to even keel through it all,

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Speaker 13: understand what my job is and make it better for

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Speaker 13: next week.

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Speaker 19: I think you've said in the past that maybe the

691
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Speaker 19: no more quality you have is confidence that you whenever

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Speaker 19: you step out there.

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Speaker 10: Did did you see.

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Speaker 19: Something like this kind of transpiring overall as the team today?

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Speaker 19: It seemed that things never got going until the game

696
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Speaker 19: was really out of reach.

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Speaker 4: On the scoreboard.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it was tough, I mean, but that's just the

699
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Speaker 13: testaments that guys, especially the guys up front, everybody around

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Speaker 13: us like did at certain points scoreboard it was zero

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Speaker 13: zero word is going out playing and trying I put

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Speaker 13: our best football forward. Obviously, like I said before, we

703
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Speaker 13: got going way too late. But it's there. It's there.

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Speaker 13: We're able to go up and down the field. Just

705
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Speaker 13: those little things that just those little things just that

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Speaker 13: bite you and just kill a drive and just don't

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Speaker 13: allow you just to go down there and especially put

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Speaker 13: points up on the board.

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Speaker 20: It just needs to get nipped in the butt. And

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Speaker 20: it will. It will. I know it's been a while,

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Speaker 20: but it's it'll happen.

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Speaker 19: You've played a lot of football in your lifetime. I mean,

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Speaker 19: you've been on teams. I'm sure that see it. Think

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Speaker 19: it's gonna come, doesn't come. Why are you confident that

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Speaker 19: at two and nine for this team that it could

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Speaker 19: still come.

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Speaker 20: Because I'll see the way we practice.

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Speaker 13: I mean a lot of the older guys talk about decks,

719
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Speaker 13: talks spout at the time, Burns talk spy all the time,

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Speaker 13: like we're the hardest practicing team that they've seen they've

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Speaker 13: been around. I mean personally, I think that as well.

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Speaker 13: You think the way we practice. If you go out

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Speaker 13: and watch us, like we do not practice like we're

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Speaker 13: two or nine river our record is like we're going

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Speaker 13: out there like we are undefeated and like every day

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Speaker 13: it's like a game. It just has to translate from

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Speaker 13: practice to the field. That's that's the big things just

728
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 13: needs to that. But no confidence is not an issue

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Speaker 13: on the offense, defense, or special teams out of the ball.

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Speaker 20: I think the locker room is tight, Kit.

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Speaker 13: I think that everybody has a lot of juice going

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Speaker 13: into the week, especially with how things have been going

733
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Speaker 13: on the field. You know, there's no fingers being pointed.

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Speaker 13: Everyone's kind of honing in on it. But maybe we

735
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Speaker 13: just need to hone it a little harder. So gotta

736
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Speaker 13: figure it off this week.

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Speaker 25: Take it too.

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Speaker 4: Did you get the wind knocked out of you on that? Yeah?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, just the wind knocked out of me a fun.

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Speaker 19: Does it help it at all that it's a short week,

741
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 19: not much time to think about this one when you

742
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Speaker 19: have Dallas coming up? Or do you almost wish you

743
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Speaker 19: had more time to kind of figure out the little

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Speaker 19: details that you talked.

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Speaker 20: About, right, just good and bad to it.

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Speaker 13: I mean, you're gonna flush it, obviously you have to

747
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Speaker 13: go into next week, but you still have to be

748
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Speaker 13: able to go back and watch it and see what

749
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 13: went right and what went wrong and why. But that

750
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Speaker 13: needs to be a quick fix nipping the button and

751
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Speaker 13: then we're on to Dallas right now. So I think

752
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Speaker 13: there's a fifty to fifty with it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Tony, Thank you guys, if you do with the todium.

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Speaker 2: Today's Player A Press conferences are brought to you by MetLife,

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Speaker 2: the official insurance company of the New York Football Giants,

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Speaker 2: John Schmelch, Bob Papa, Jonathan Casias Giants Extra point Giants

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Speaker 2: fall to the Ten Bay Buccaneers thirty to seven. And guys,

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00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: you know you could see from Tommy there that he

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Speaker 2: obviously wanted to bring that spark, but he knew, especially

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Speaker 2: in the first half, that you got to give a

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Speaker 2: little bit more offensively. I think they had under twenty

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Speaker 2: net passing yards in the first half of this game,

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Speaker 2: and just not gonna get it done, especially against an

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Speaker 2: explosive offense like the Bucks. Bob that's been one of

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Speaker 2: the best offenses in football the whole year.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and when you can't stop him defensively and you're

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Speaker 6: letting them just march down the field, you know, it

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Speaker 6: takes a lot out. You know, Carl had a really

769
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Speaker 6: good point too, right, I mean, you're watching the game here,

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Speaker 6: where's the giant pass rush?

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Speaker 5: There was no pass.

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Speaker 1: Rush today today. There wasn't.

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Speaker 6: But Baker also because of his awareness and his ability

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Speaker 6: to move inside the pocket just enough, he buys a

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Speaker 6: little bit of extra time.

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Speaker 5: He's decisive in what he does.

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Speaker 6: But you know, at one point, the box had completed

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Speaker 6: four straight third downs and all four of them were

779
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Speaker 6: between two and four yards. You never got him in

780
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Speaker 6: third and nine. You never got Now, eventually you got

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Speaker 6: him in third and nine. They beat you on that

782
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Speaker 6: too with Baker runs. But for the most part, like

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Speaker 6: he was easy for him. They were staying on schedule.

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Speaker 6: They were like, okay, we got a third and two.

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Speaker 6: If we don't get it we'll go for a num

786
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Speaker 6: fourth and two anyway. Yeah, listen, they had thirty nine

787
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Speaker 6: plays in the first half to the Giants eighteen. It's

788
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Speaker 6: hard to develop any kind of momentum offensively when you're

789
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Speaker 6: on the bench most of the first.

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Speaker 2: And there were multiple questions about why they didn't get

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Speaker 2: the league neighbors more involved in the first half, and

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Speaker 2: I thought Brian Dables' response is actually correct, to five

793
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Speaker 2: passes in the first half. It's not like to throw

794
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: at everybody else a bunch of times here.

795
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Speaker 6: Well, he also got sacked three times in the first half,

796
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Speaker 6: So you dropped back eight times and three times he

797
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Speaker 6: got sacked, including the first possession where they ran a

798
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Speaker 6: stunt and Cancey came up the middle.

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Speaker 5: And absolutely obliterated them.

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Speaker 6: So it's hard to get the ball to the leak

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Speaker 6: neighbors when you only drop back eight times and you

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Speaker 6: got sacked on three of them.

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Speaker 2: On all right, Bob, final thoughts here before you and

804
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: the rest of the Giants jump on a plane on

805
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: Wednesday and head to Dallas for the four point thirty

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00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 2: in the afternoon. You know Big Fox game on Thanksgiving

807
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 2: Giants and Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know the.

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Speaker 6: Cowboys were horrible against the run when they came in here,

810
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Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden on that Thursday night,

811
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Speaker 6: they stopped the Giants run game dead cold. Maybe on

812
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 6: a short week with actually no practices and walk throughs,

813
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 6: the Giants will be able to figure out how to

814
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Speaker 6: get their run defense better.

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Speaker 5: Don't I don't know. I mean, I'm you know what.

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Speaker 6: My final thought is, I want to wish every one

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Speaker 6: of our loyal listeners a very happy Thanksgiving because most

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Speaker 6: of our listeners some will be in the car sitting

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Speaker 6: in traffic trying to get to some relative's house. But

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00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 6: if you're not there by four thirty, you're turning around

821
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 6: and probably going home. Like happened once when we were

822
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Speaker 6: kids trying to get out to Farmingdale, Long Island, do Mont,

823
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Speaker 6: New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: Did not well.

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Speaker 6: Nah, after almost two and a half hours, we hadn't

826
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Speaker 6: even crossed the throgs Neck break, so we just kind

827
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Speaker 6: of went back.

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Speaker 1: So what happened to you guys? Did have any dinner

829
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Speaker 1: or anything with you?

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Speaker 5: No food?

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Speaker 6: I think we wound up getting to my aunt Knuckles

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Speaker 6: around seven o'clock at night. We waited, We waited in

833
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Speaker 6: the bronx at my grandmother's apartment for the traffic to subside. Finally, anyway,

834
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Speaker 6: don't leave at like ten thirty or eleven am on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 6: Long story short, though, pile A lot of our listeners

836
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Speaker 6: won't be listening.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna be watching on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 6: So I want to thank everybody that hangs in there

839
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Speaker 6: with us, that listens to the pregame show and listens

840
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 6: to the postgame show and listens to every Dtino guarantee

841
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 6: that you could possibly get that usually doesn't pan out.

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Speaker 6: I want to wish everybody happy that it's giving.

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Speaker 1: He did not have any guarantees today.

844
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Speaker 6: I know he's giving up on guarantees because when he

845
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 6: comes at your heart with some stat that's very affirmative,

846
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Speaker 6: usually goes the other way.

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Speaker 1: Well, Bob, have a safe fight.

848
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: Enjoyed Nick and Sam's Wednesday night in Dallas and they

849
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Speaker 2: have have a pleasant.

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Speaker 6: But seriously thanks, you know, because you guys are the

851
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 6: ones that make us go right. It's true, Uh, you're

852
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 6: the ones that listen and then you send us nasty tweets.

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00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 6: And it's hard to talk half you off the ledge

854
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 6: because half the time you're right and the other's half

855
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 6: the time you're wrong.

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Speaker 1: Bob will talk to you Thursday.

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Speaker 5: I'll see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'll see how about the rest of our listeners,

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00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: won't I'll see you tomorrow.

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00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 5: I can watch Coach Tables show on NBC four New York.

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00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 6: And you said for the Giants and Cowboys, that is true,

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00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 6: Eli Manning show.

863
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 5: MSG Network.

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Speaker 1: All right, quick give out.

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Speaker 2: Tie Bat will come back with more of the locker room.

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00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: Come on, you gotta highlights more. I'm laughing top. Thank

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00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: you everybody for supporting all of our stuff. And let's

874
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: have a little laugh here.

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00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: Make me laugh.

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00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 6: No way, it's not life or death here, it's you're

877
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 6: root for your team. You hope it gets better. People

878
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 6: still show up. It's the New York Giants. It's one

879
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 6: hundred seasons and you're root for your team. And let's

880
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 6: just hope things turn at some point.

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Speaker 2: Quick time out, Bob, we'll talk to you later in

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00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 2: the week, and we'll be right back with more right

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Speaker 2: here on a Giants extra point.

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Speaker 1: Giants again fall to the Bucks thirty to seven.

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Speaker 26: This is Devin Singletary and you're listening to the radio

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Speaker 26: home of Big Blue the Fan, Wfan and Wfan FL

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00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 26: New York.

890
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 5: First and goal at.

891
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 27: The one Tovido in a shotgun set. Singletary to is

892
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 27: right hand off, single chariot, enter the end zone, untouched, touchdown.

893
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 5: Giants with eleven.

894
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 27: Twenty eight to go. Oh here in the game, they're

895
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 27: on the board. It's now the Bucks thirty and the

896
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 27: Giants six.

897
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 2: That was today's scoring drive of the game, brought to

898
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: you by Citizens. For every scoring drive this season, Citizens

899
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 2: will donate seven hundred and fifty dollars to the Giants

900
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 2: Foundation to support their work tackling important community issues, improving

901
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: overall health and empowering our youth. That was the Giants

902
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: only scoring drive at the game, Hence it's our scoring

903
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: drive at the game. It was the culmination of a

904
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: thirteen play sixty eight yard drive, Devin Singletary running it

905
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 2: in from one yard out again. Giants loan touchdown John

906
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: Smelt Jonathan Casias with you on Giants extra point. Giants

907
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 2: fall to the Ten Bay Buccaneers thirty to seven.

908
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: JC.

909
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: We've heard from a bunch of guys downstairs, and look, well,

910
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 2: we've heard from Coach Dable and Tommy DeVito downstairs, and

911
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: both of them, I think, have been pretty clear that

912
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: what happened today was a team ye failure.

913
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: It's not just one guy. Nothing went well today.

914
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: You know, we talked before the post game, We're trying

915
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 2: to think of one or two guys we could highlight

916
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: that really played well today, and we had trouble coming

917
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: up with a couple of them. To be honest with you,

918
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 2: I'm sure when we look back at the tape tomorrow

919
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: we'll find a couple. But watching it live, it's it's

920
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: hard to see that. So I'm not quite sure where

921
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: to go here until we start hearing from more guys downstairs.

922
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean losing thirty to seven. I mean that

923
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 3: score was thirty zero before the fourth quarter. You know,

924
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 3: that's a collective effort. It's a collective effort to lose

925
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 3: like that. Every game that you win is a collective effort.

926
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 3: You know, and it takes a lot of people, but

927
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 3: also taking a lot of people in a lot of

928
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 3: different situations to lose thirty seven at home, being down

929
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 3: thirty to zero, you know, at the end of three quarters,

930
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 3: where you know, Tempa Bate could just take their foot

931
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 3: off the pedal and just kind of close through the

932
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 3: rest of the game because you have zero chance of

933
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 3: coming back in the last fifteen minutes of the game.

934
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 3: It's a collective effort, you know, poor tackling, not great

935
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 3: execution on offense, secution on defense. You know, for me,

936
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 3: the energy consistently throughout the whole game just wasn't there,

937
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 3: you know, And I spoke about that early because the

938
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 3: first thing that I look at is let me see

939
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: the energy of the guys, you know, let's see the

940
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: energy of the guys. And they just didn't look and

941
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 3: they they all keep using the word spark, and I

942
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 3: just didn't see spark. I saw the whatever word is

943
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 3: the antithesis of that.

944
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: I saw that.

945
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,959
Speaker 3: I didn't see that the spark that we all thought

946
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 3: was gonna happen, and it was kind of like you

947
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 3: felt it in the air, but it just never never

948
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: showed itself. Today, defensively they look poor offensively. It looked

949
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 3: like they look basically their entire year, just not efficient,

950
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 3: not taking advantage, not executing situationally, not good. And that's

951
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: what you see. You see thirty or seven. But that's

952
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 3: how the game was. It was a butt whoopen from

953
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: the first quarter all the way through.

954
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: Giants Football is brought to you by your local Ford Stores.

955
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957
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Speaker 2: One of the Giants leaders dexter Lawrences in the locker

958
00:40:59,239 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: room after the game.

959
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: Here's what do you have to say?

960
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 26: You miss a lot of tablets, didn't contain baker will

961
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 26: and scrambles.

962
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 4: If we didn't cover well.

963
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 28: Yeah, and sought to me, are you more disappointed with

964
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 28: the effort than you are with the execution in general

965
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 28: with this team.

966
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 4: I don't think we lack effort.

967
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 26: I think we just not doing well tackling and covering.

968
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 4: No defense.

969
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 26: That's why do you think you guys played sold because

970
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 26: we didn't tackle and cover well.

971
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 10: Uh?

972
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 13: I guess was there anything you saw like leading up

973
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 13: to this that kind of gave you warning sides that

974
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 13: that thing?

975
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: Probably?

976
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 10: I guess how was how was the weak?

977
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 4: Did you see things like that?

978
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 20: Uh?

979
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 4: I thought we practiced well.

980
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 26: That was my message that half time. We practiced too

981
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 26: hard and we practiced too good to go out there

982
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 26: and play like that. I just continue.

983
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 28: How would you describe your level of frustration right now?

984
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 29: Uh?

985
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 4: Probably a team. You think it can get better?

986
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 28: And if it, if it does get better, how does

987
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 28: it get better?

988
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 4: I mean I think it's always can get better. It's

989
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 4: a process. It's right now. It's a long process that

990
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 4: you know. I'm here for it.

991
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 26: I gonna keep leading, doing all I can on the

992
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 26: field to lead, and you know, talking to the guys.

993
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 26: I need to talk to the defense, Uh, guys on

994
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 26: the offense whoever.

995
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 4: So yeah, do you think everyone is.

996
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 11: Bodying what the program is right now?

997
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 4: I think so?

998
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: Uh.

999
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 26: I mean, like I said, I don't see lack of effort.

1000
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 26: I don't see lack of like, I don't see selfishness.

1001
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 26: Just gotta execute better, man, you gotta tackle better.

1002
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 4: We got cover better.

1003
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 26: We had to be mentally locked in on whatever being

1004
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 26: called out there. You know, it's it's just keeps popping

1005
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 26: up from Uh, one player after another player out the

1006
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 26: another player.

1007
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 16: Ye yet so sometimes just happened to the league in

1008
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 16: that gay season.

1009
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 4: There's still a lot of games left. You kind of won.

1010
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 26: I think, like I said, I think our effort is good.

1011
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 26: I think our mindset is we want to win.

1012
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 4: We just got to execute better.

1013
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 28: When a young guy like Malik says that he is

1014
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 28: hired of losing and he's only been here for one year,

1015
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 28: what is your message to him?

1016
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 4: I'm with you, re tired of losing. You know this season,

1017
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 4: we have a good team and the season is now

1018
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 4: turning out the way it should be. Frustrating and and

1019
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 4: I'll get his frustration.

1020
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 26: H I have it too, But you just gotta go

1021
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 26: go out and lead, keep going, keep giving my all.

1022
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 4: That's what I'm gonna do.

1023
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 26: I'm gonna do my best to bring guys along as

1024
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 26: best as I can.

1025
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 10: And that's where we're in.

1026
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 12: That moment after the touchdown, you went to the sideline.

1027
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 9: You're standing there with your hands over your helmet, kind

1028
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 9: of rocking back and forth.

1029
00:43:58,880 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 12: What what are you doing in that one?

1030
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 4: Frustrated? Keep him a cool?

1031
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 30: Yeah?

1032
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 4: Did you see?

1033
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 16: Obviously sort of Baker Mayfield did the Tommy Deviato.

1034
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 4: You know, if you're scoring a touchdown. I didn't see.

1035
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 4: You didn't see that.

1036
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 15: What do you think of the fact that he did that,

1037
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 15: talling into the crowd in the stadium like that, I

1038
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 15: didn't see next song.

1039
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 25: Yeah, if this could happen any week, but when it

1040
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 25: happens in the same week that the Giants kept the

1041
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 25: starting quarterback to I think that had any effect on

1042
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 25: locker room any the way guys reacting.

1043
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 4: I don't think so.

1044
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 26: Uh a, that's that's just a coincidence, unt, I don't.

1045
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 26: I don't think they had a an effect on the team.

1046
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 4: They just played well.

1047
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 26: Tim body played well or they had few, didn't have

1048
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 26: many mistakes and we had a lot.

1049
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 16: Are you soft as about its as damning up on

1050
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 16: the diping as you can play on a team kind

1051
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 16: of defense.

1052
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 11: I means, is that fixable.

1053
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 4: Just a few days or ye season?

1054
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 26: Like I said, cause my s I'm sayings office, we

1055
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 26: didn't execute our our uh calls.

1056
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 4: Well we uh we played with a lot of effort

1057
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 4: at all.

1058
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 26: That so oft as not executing a well an it's

1059
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 26: off to me like it's soft to not execute what now?

1060
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: Why?

1061
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 29: Why?

1062
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 26: So if you know you guys have a little practice,

1063
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 26: cause you look for the guys told together in the

1064
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 26: practice as well.

1065
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 28: So then then like, why does that happen when you

1066
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 28: have a soft execution?

1067
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 4: I don't know, I can't do it up.

1068
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 16: Do you feel that the an action between the coaching

1069
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 16: staff and the players is is still strong?

1070
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 4: You know, sometimes it's a disconnect and that means.

1071
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 10: To bigger play.

1072
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 4: Cause my knowledge, I think so, all right, I mean

1073
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 4: I don't know. We can have more accountability all around.

1074
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 4: But cause my knowledge, I don't see any disconnect.

1075
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 11: Do you feel like you're being put in the best

1076
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 11: position to have a.

1077
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 4: Successful I think so?

1078
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 26: He instantly, Uh, you just like I said, was you

1079
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 26: gotta be mentally locked in on our job and you

1080
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 26: on that one play in that one moment.

1081
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 4: Do you in those moments and that execute.

1082
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 10: Is it drain?

1083
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 4: Take three more?

1084
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 9: Is it draining for the defense when the offense can't

1085
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 9: put points on the board, especially early when they're shout

1086
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 9: out in multiple first.

1087
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 4: Halfs they put thirty on us. So however many parents

1088
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 4: that they put.

1089
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 26: On us, So we didn't do our job to sh

1090
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 26: great short fields create turn Okay, right, it's it's it's

1091
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 26: gonna be hard. You know, you had a new quarterback

1092
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 26: in so they were gonna do whatever they did, blitz

1093
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 26: on every play, So we gotta take it as a defense.

1094
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 4: You gotta understand that, and you gotta play harder for

1095
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 4: the guys across the ball.

1096
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 12: How next you do?

1097
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 16: You do you think you've played yourself since you were picking.

1098
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 26: They try to ice me out a lot of the game. Uh,

1099
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 26: I had two fans on me the whole game until

1100
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 26: the end of the game. Pretty much. That's what I

1101
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 26: gotta expect. I gotta play through it whatever it is,

1102
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 26: to try my best to defeat those and hope and

1103
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 26: you know, depend on the guys around made to make plays.

1104
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 31: Do you think it's worth having a player's only media

1105
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 31: at this point to just have everybody air out their

1106
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 31: thoughts and see the campus off some of these issues.

1107
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 26: I think we talked to the team a lot as leaders.

1108
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, thanks ex thank.

1109
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: You, sir Lawrence postgame for all your office, industrial and

1110
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Speaker 2: Clancy Moving dot com. And jac I heard Dexter there

1113
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 2: parrots something that you've said a lot of times this year.

1114
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 2: We've talked about the poor offense and after the games

1115
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 2: Giants haven't scored enough points. And you always say, well,

1116
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 2: you know, John, the defense can score points. The defense

1117
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 2: can set the offense up. And we talked about this,

1118
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: only one takeaway again in this game. The Giants have

1119
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: not started to drive inside the other team's twenty yard

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00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: line the whole year. No defensive touchdowns this year. And

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00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 2: I think Dexter was correct to say, look, new quarterback

1122
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito, it was the defens's job to take some

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Speaker 2: of that on our shoulders, to provide some support today.

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Speaker 1: And they fail to do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And I correct you because remember I talked

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00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 3: about takeaways turnovers. They didn't take the ball away. Tamp

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00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 3: Bay gave them the ball, So that's a turnover for

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Speaker 3: their offense, not a takeaway, you know.

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00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 2: There is they did force a couple they did, and

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Speaker 2: also the turnover on downs as well late in the game.

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Speaker 3: But like for me as a defender, that's what you

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00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 3: look at. Are we taking the ball away?

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00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

1134
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: Like is it us doing it?

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00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 20: You know?

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00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 3: And that's what the Giants haven't done. They haven't taken

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00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 3: the ball away from the offense. But I'm gonna use

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00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 3: some you know, from Dexter's words, he said the defense

1139
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 3: is soft. He said they're soft because of lack of execution.

1140
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 3: And then he says, probably being more accountable would help

1141
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 3: with that, you know. And and those are I think

1142
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 3: all true things, you know, And and he's frustrated. And

1143
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 3: I've been where he's at, you know, I've been at

1144
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 3: that point where I'm trying to figure out the words

1145
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 3: to put forth of what I'm seeing, what I'm actually

1146
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 3: going through, what I'm a part of, you know. And

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00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 3: Dexter's trying to figure that out because he's trying to

1148
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,439
Speaker 3: make sense of what's going on because nothing really makes

1149
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 3: sense to the guys offensively or defensively. They're sitting back, like,

1150
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 3: I know, I'm practicing hard. I know I'm out there

1151
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 3: playing hard. How are we getting blown out? Why can't

1152
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 3: we win at home? There's a lot of questions that

1153
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 3: I don't think nobody truly has an answer to, you know,

1154
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 3: And I think everybody's scratching their heads. And that's why

1155
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 3: you kind of get these almost you know, back and

1156
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 3: forth answers because they don't really understand what's happening, you know.

1157
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 3: But there is something off about this squad. I don't

1158
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 3: know what it is, but this this you know today

1159
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 3: and every game at home it's kind of had the

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00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 3: same type of recipe where everybody's kind of scratching their

1161
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 3: heads at the end because it's such a lopsided game

1162
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 3: where you look and you're like, Okay, my effort was there.

1163
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 3: I've been putting into work, but for some reason we're

1164
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 3: getting blown out at home. We can't score touchdowns, we

1165
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 3: can't stop guys, we can't stop to run. What is

1166
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 3: it actually happening? And the Giants have to figure out

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00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 3: a way to answer that question. And they're saying they

1168
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 3: had good practices, but you got to have that trend

1169
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 3: has laid over to the games because practicing hard is

1170
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 3: it is good? If it's translating over. If it's not,

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Speaker 3: then what are we doing here?

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00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: Quick time out. We'll come back.

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00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: We will take a look at some of the stats

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00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 2: and continue along with more sound from the locker room

1175
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Speaker 2: on Giants Extra Point. The Giants fall to the Ten

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Speaker 2: Bay Buccaneers thirty to seven. There now two to nine

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Speaker 2: on the year.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 7: You are listening to Giants extra Point on the Wfan

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Speaker 7: Giants Radio Network.

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Speaker 13: This is Tommy DeVito and you're listening to the radio

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Speaker 13: home of Big Blue the Fan, w f AN and

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Speaker 13: w f A n FM, New York.

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Speaker 4: Thirty four eighteen.

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Speaker 27: Dorino out of the gun, takes snap back on the

1186
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Speaker 27: Pressure's gonna run.

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Speaker 5: He's got plenty of greens to the ten, to the five,

1188
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Speaker 5: head around the head and drop the whole one.

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Speaker 32: Whoopsten seventeen yard run for three too one or there

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Speaker 32: might be a face mask for that, not technically a

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00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 32: face mask, but eight granded by the bottom of the helmet,

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00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 32: which is technically a penalty that's considered a face masking penalty.

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00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 2: No call was made, but the following play, Devin Singletary

1194
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 2: ran in from the yard out, so that Tommy Divino

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Speaker 2: orun was today's play. The game brought to you by

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Speaker 2: Truck of the Giants. Tonight's stats will get to that

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Speaker 2: in a second, but first let's give our stations a

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Speaker 2: chance to identify themselves on the WFN Giants Radio Network WFA.

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Speaker 5: York and.

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Speaker 2: Back here on Giants Extra point. Giants fall to the

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Speaker 2: Ten Bay Buccaneers three to seven. They are now two

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Speaker 2: and nine Tonight. Statistics are brought to you by the

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Speaker 2: Archdiocese of New York. Learn more at Inner City NYC

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Speaker 2: dot org. Well, the stats about as ugly as the

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00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: score here, folks. Giants get out gained four hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty yards to two hundred and forty five today they

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00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: end up finishing five and eleven on third down and

1211
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,439
Speaker 2: Bucks were six and eleven, But that is not representative

1212
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 2: of what this game really was. Bucks win the time

1213
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 2: of possession battle thirty four minutes to twenty six minutes.

1214
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 2: In this game earlier, I already went through the big plays.

1215
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 2: The Bucks had six plays of twenty five or more yards.

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00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: The Giants only two plays of twenty and more, none

1217
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 2: of which were more than twenty five, So the Bucks

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00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 2: said six plays longer than the Giants' longest play individually.

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00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 2: For the Giants, Tommy DeVito finished twenty one to thirty

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00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 2: one for one hundred and eighty nine yards eleven yards short.

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00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 2: Guys of my over under in the pregame show with

1222
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 2: our contest eleven yard short just miss that. Tommy Tyrone

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00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: Tracy nine rushes forty two yards, Tommy DeVito ran at

1224
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: seven times for thirty two yards. Devin Singletary two rushes

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00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 2: three yards for the Giants. The Laieighbors led the way

1226
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 2: six catches sixty four yards, Wando Robinson five catches forty

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00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 2: seven yards, Tyrone Tracy four catches twenty eight yards, Theo

1228
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 2: Johnson three for thirty nine. Two catches a piece for

1229
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: Eric Gray and Devin Singletary.

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Speaker 1: The Bucks.

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00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield as solid at as efficient as you can

1232
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 2: be twenty four thirty two hundred and ninety four yards.

1233
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 2: He did not throw for a touchdown. All four Bucks

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00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 2: touchdowns came on the ground, one for Mayfield himself. He

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Speaker 2: had four carries for twenty nine yards. Bucky Irving twelve

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00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 2: for eighty seven in a touchdown, Rashad White twelve for

1237
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: thirty seven in a touchdown, and Sean Tucker had four

1238
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 2: carries three yards and a touchdown. Baker Mayfield spread the

1239
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 2: wealth in the passing game. Eleven different Tampa Bay Buccaneers

1240
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: with at least one catch in this game. I'll go

1241
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 2: through the guys that had more than one. Bucky Irvings

1242
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 2: six catches sixty four yards, five catches sixty eight yards

1243
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 2: for Mike Evans and five catches and sixteen yards for

1244
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 2: Sterling Shepard. That's the Bucks on offense. Defensively for these

1245
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: two teams in this game. The Giants pass rush, which

1246
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 2: again they were only one sack, I believe behind the

1247
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: Broncos saying into this game for most sacks in the league.

1248
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 2: The Broncos then had their buy well the Giants again,

1249
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 2: their pass rush not really making any noise in this game.

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00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: No sacks, just two quarterback hits. The Bucks had four sacks.

1251
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: Antoine Winfield had one, Nelson had won as Anthony Nelson,

1252
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 2: Klaijah Kansi with one, and Vita Veay with one when

1253
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: he ran through John Michael Schmidtz for that sack.

1254
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Speaker 1: Those are our stats, folks.

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00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 2: Again, the Giants fall to the ten day Buccaneers thirty

1256
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 2: to seven. If you're listening to this game across our

1257
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 2: radio network, we bid you farewell. But if you're on

1258
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 2: our local flagship Wfan, stay with us. It's time to

1259
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 2: say goodbye to our affiliates across the country on our network.

1260
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 2: Our next broadcast will be Thursday afternoon Thanksgiving when the

1261
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 2: Giants travel to Dallas to take on the Cowboys. Kickloff

1262
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: at four thirty. Pregame show at three point thirty.

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00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: Make sure you're with us to.

1264
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 2: Check it out, and if you want Giants content during

1265
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 2: the week, we'll be with you with Big Kickoff Live

1266
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 2: at twelve thirty Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. Make sure you

1267
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: check that out across our radio network. Thanks for being

1268
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 2: with us, everybody. We'll see you on Thursday afternoon. Happy

1269
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving on the WFAN Giants radio network. But we are

1270
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 2: not done right here on WFN in New York, Johnathan

1271
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 2: Casias and Paul de Tina will rejoin me. We'll take

1272
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Speaker 2: your calls at eight and eight, eight oh eight, one zero,

1273
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 2: one to nine.

1274
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: We'll break it all down.

1275
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 2: We got a lot more sound from the locker room

1276
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 2: as we continue here on Giants Extra Point, we'll be

1277
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Speaker 2: right back.

1278
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 5: Don't bring peta Bay and it's a full back again.

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00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 5: Tucker the tailby and off. Tucker runs left, stood.

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Speaker 27: Up FuMB of the football, it's loose on the ground

1281
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 27: and Mayfield recovers it.

1282
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 5: Baker recovered it was just laying there.

1283
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: Nobody noticed that the ball was.

1284
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 27: There, and almost said burns in the foot and Mayfield

1285
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 27: came out of nowhere and going on it.

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Speaker 2: And I chose that as our tony point of the

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00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 2: game because I feel like that was the opportunity for

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00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 2: the Giants to really turn this thing around and get

1289
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 2: a turnover. If Brian Burns bends down and picks out,

1290
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Speaker 2: if you might be a run at ninety nine yards

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Speaker 2: for a touchdown, he.

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Speaker 1: Might, So I thought that was a good play to choose.

1293
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 2: They would end up kicking a field goal and then

1294
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 2: that was all she pretty much wrote there. So that

1295
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: was my turning point of the game. You listen to

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00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,959
Speaker 2: Boomer and g on our flagship station WFN tomorrow morning

1297
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 2: in the nine to an hour But the Giants Turning

1298
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 2: Point Contest. The first crack caller to name the game's

1299
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 2: turning point will win two tickets to an upcoming Giants

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00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 2: home game. Johns SHLK, Jonathan Casias, Paul Natino with us

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Speaker 2: as well. Giants fall to the Bucks thirty to seven.

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Speaker 25: John, the second that play happened, I turned to Casia

1303
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 25: sitting next to me in the press box, and Jonathan,

1304
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 25: you back me up on this. I said, this is

1305
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 25: the way the season is gone. And the Giants situation.

1306
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 25: Gray gets the ball stripped at the goal line, loses it.

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00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 25: Seattle runs it back all the way the other side

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Speaker 25: for a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Well, what happens to Baker that ball drops? Giants don't

1310
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: pick it up, Buccaneers get to.

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00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 25: Hold the ball, and nothing good happens to the Giants.

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Speaker 1: It's this is typical.

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Speaker 25: Those two plays are a exactly typical of how this

1314
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:02,720
Speaker 25: season is gone.

1315
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 2: I want to go to Brian Burns in the locker room.

1316
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 2: Already heard from Dexter Lawrence. Another defensive leader is Brian

1317
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 2: Burns usually has some good things to stay down there,

1318
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 2: or at least maybe not good, but pointing things to

1319
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 2: say that are worth listening to. So let's listen to

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00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 2: Brian Burns after the Giants thirty to seven defeet What

1321
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 2: did you think.

1322
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 12: Of your guys performance?

1323
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 10: Term? Explain it tackling supposed to players me, little.

1324
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 14: Tackling has been kind of an issue all year. Why

1325
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 14: do you guys are not going to fix that up?

1326
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 14: Why if you're not gonna fix the tackling is year?

1327
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 4: I give it to you.

1328
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 10: Some have been putting emphasis on and just saying can't

1329
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 10: seem to get right now.

1330
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 9: Cole I said, there are a couple of guys assessments

1331
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 9: when you guys played soft?

1332
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 10: Said it again, a couple of guys assessment when.

1333
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 11: You guys played soft. What do you think when you

1334
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 11: hear that?

1335
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 33: I don't know about soft. I ain't watched the film yet,

1336
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 33: but I know tackling was an issue.

1337
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 11: Do you look at it as an effort looking at

1338
00:57:58,840 --> 00:57:59,439
Speaker 11: something else?

1339
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 10: You know, its technique, not wrapping up the the all

1340
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 10: the simple things at tackling.

1341
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 4: Do you think the coaching staffs the mess are just

1342
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 4: getting through.

1343
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 10: I would like to think that, but what what for

1344
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 10: the reason? I said?

1345
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 33: I would like to think that, cause you know, everybody

1346
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 33: has the right answers, but it's not showing up where.

1347
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 4: It needs to show up.

1348
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 15: Do you think this team still believes in this coaching

1349
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 15: stuff for sure?

1350
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 23: Do you think there's a lot of trust your teams

1351
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 23: or on the field.

1352
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 4: N't know.

1353
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 33: I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say it's a lack

1354
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 33: of trust. And I don't think the effort is terrible.

1355
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 33: I think it's just really just coming down and tackling.

1356
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 33: And I don't know what what we need to do

1357
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 33: to to fix it. But the coach has been preaching

1358
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 33: that for a while. It's not on the coaches, on

1359
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 33: the players too. They can't make a tackle for us

1360
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 33: out there, so it's really on us, and today was

1361
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 33: just terrible.

1362
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 16: If the effort is what you said, it's it's okay,

1363
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 16: you know, it's fine. It can it be just the

1364
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 16: fact that you don't have good enough players that can

1365
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 16: make tackles and do the things. Okay, you know, I'm

1366
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 16: just trying to figure out what if it's not talent,

1367
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 16: then it's not effort and it's just we don't make

1368
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 16: me to This has been going on for a lot

1369
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 16: of games.

1370
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 29: Yeah, so you use the technique angles, situation, situations, you know,

1371
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 29: maybe a lot of different things on uh, on different

1372
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 29: plays that that can result to mistackles, But at the

1373
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 29: end of the day, you gotta make tackles.

1374
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 16: It could it be something about poyees in the moment,

1375
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 16: about going for the proper hands of.

1376
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 33: The individual thing. It could they come down to different people.

1377
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 33: Different people have different issues with their tackling. Then they

1378
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 33: have to figure that out.

1379
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 14: Do you think Daniels shut down and released and kind

1380
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 14: of everything to happen this week?

1381
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 10: Do you think that was a tough thing?

1382
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 11: Maybe for the team to handle mentally.

1383
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 10: In a game week. No, No, I don't think they

1384
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 10: got to do with us tackling?

1385
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 22: Uh?

1386
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 10: Was it you know? Was it a bummer? Was it awkward?

1387
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1388
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 33: You know cause Dang was a leader, He was a

1389
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 33: great guy, great captain, great teammate, And it was a bummer.

1390
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 10: But at the end of the day, they ain't can

1391
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 10: do with us tackling.

1392
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 18: What do you make at him coming up your ride

1393
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 18: way being down thirty to nothing at home?

1394
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 4: It's ass?

1395
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 11: How do you did you sorry?

1396
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 4: Did you foll off by that?

1397
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 9: Did you make that nothing?

1398
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 11: To guys?

1399
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 29: Like?

1400
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 11: Did you say something after I spoke with mom? You

1401
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 11: wanna expand on it anymore?

1402
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 22: Not?

1403
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 4: Really?

1404
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 10: Was that half time or post post game?

1405
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 4: How do you guys?

1406
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 13: Uh?

1407
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 20: How many guys spoke a lot of.

1408
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 4: Room after.

1409
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 10: GVR was about to speak and then I started to

1410
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 10: talk and that was pretty much.

1411
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 4: How unusual was that for you?

1412
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 11: You usually, you said before, You're kind.

1413
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 9: Of not the rod ride you know, yelling scream teler game.

1414
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 10: I'm I'm not usually into the whole you know, motivational

1415
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 10: and the rock y'all, Like you just said, a rod

1416
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 10: rode and all that. But if it's something that's been

1417
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 10: on my mind, on my heart.

1418
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 12: I said, how feed up are you?

1419
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 10: The dominance just wanna win?

1420
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 11: Man?

1421
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 33: No, like I said, I I told the team and

1422
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 33: say it's not I'm not excluding myself from anybody. I

1423
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 33: say as a whole everybody was bad today and nobody

1424
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 33: got anything done what we needed to get done, and

1425
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 33: we got a short weekend.

1426
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 10: We need to get back to what we were doing.

1427
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 14: So insies are across the board like that, you Sally

1428
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 14: still believe in the coaching and the out type. People

1429
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 14: think that's a reflection of coaching. I think if the

1430
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 14: whole team basically isn't ready to put not.

1431
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 33: No offense to anybody from the outside, but they can't

1432
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 33: really speak on what we got going on in in house,

1433
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 33: what makes.

1434
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 34: You think that this is fixable or do you do

1435
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 34: you think that this is fixable at two and nine.

1436
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 28: With six games up, fixing what well, not just the tackling,

1437
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 28: but also the the result across the board.

1438
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 4: I know you can't speak for the offense, but you know,

1439
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 4: just the result across the board, not losing games thirty

1440
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 4: to seven.

1441
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1442
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 33: Yeah, at the end of the day, man, I feel

1443
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 33: like it's coming down to pride and and just want

1444
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 33: to I feel like this is a process thing that

1445
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 33: we're in. We have a lot of young guys that

1446
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 33: need to grow, and they're getting a lot of playing time.

1447
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 10: In their first year. So I expect them to you know, progress.

1448
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 33: Throughout the rest of these games so they can be

1449
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 33: you know, because they're gonna be key players for us

1450
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 33: next year. And I do believe in everybody on the team,

1451
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 33: but especially in the defensive room. I do believe they

1452
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 33: have talent and and everything like that. It's just you know,

1453
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 33: just growing pains right now.

1454
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 10: That we got to get through.

1455
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: That's what a leader sounds like.

1456
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 2: Folks, when you have a veteran player like that talk

1457
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 2: after the game, JC as a guy who's been in

1458
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 2: the locker room, Just give me your reaction to what

1459
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 2: Brian Birds had to say. The fact that he did

1460
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 2: talk to the team after the game, which is something

1461
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 2: he's generally not known to do.

1462
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: That's not the type of guy that he is. Just

1463
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: give me a breakdown.

1464
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 3: Well, it sounds like he's a man for accountability. You know,

1465
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 3: he doesn't want to put anything on the offense or

1466
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 3: what happened this week with the you know, whole transition

1467
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 3: of quarterback. He put everything on the defense. You know,

1468
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 3: the defense gave up thirty points in three quarters, you know,

1469
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 3: and Giants, no matter what they were doing offensively, that

1470
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 3: doesn't give you a chance your team a chance to win.

1471
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 3: You know, even if the Giants were averaging twenty eight

1472
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 3: twenty seven points a game, that's still you know, more

1473
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,919
Speaker 3: points than their averaging, which they're not doing that, they're

1474
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 3: actually half of that. But he's taking accountability for not

1475
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 3: just himself, but for the defense as a whole, you know.

1476
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 2: And look, I wasn't there points on six drives, by

1477
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 2: the way, just to be more specific, Wow, six drives

1478
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 2: thirty points.

1479
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 3: And you know, he's he's taking full accountability. And like

1480
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 3: I said, it's you don't really know exactly what's happening,

1481
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 3: because it's like how do we get here? Like I

1482
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 3: know that I'm putting forth to effort as a player

1483
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 3: throughout the week and I'm doing everything I can, and

1484
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 3: then I get out here and we look up, you know,

1485
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 3: after an hour and a half of playing football, we're

1486
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 3: down thirty points, you know, and they're trying to figure

1487
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 3: it out, you know, and I think, you know, with

1488
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 3: guys like that on a defense are good. But look

1489
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 3: at offense, right, they lost their leader and Daniel Jones

1490
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 3: they got rid of him, and then Andrew Thomas has

1491
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 3: been out. Those are the two offensive captains. So where's

1492
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 3: the leadership? Where's that coming from on the offense?

1493
01:03:58,360 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 22: You know?

1494
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 3: And for me, I know, I've been part of two

1495
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 3: Super Bowl teams. We had great leaders on both sides

1496
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 3: of the ball, and I think offensively, I think they

1497
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 3: lack that. You know, Andrew Thomas being down, Daniel Jones

1498
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 3: being shipped out of town. You know, where's the where's

1499
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 3: the leadership actually coming from on offense? Because every week

1500
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 3: we hear Dexter Lawrence and Burns talking about how they

1501
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 3: talk to the team. And you know, we're always so

1502
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 3: high up on Burns, But what about offensively? Who's the

1503
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 3: guys that's you know, holding everybody accountable. The coaches can

1504
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 3: only do so much. They can't play, they can't play,

1505
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 3: they can't tackle, they can't go out there and black people,

1506
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

1507
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: Do you agree with what he said when he was

1508
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: asked about the tackling that if the coaches are teaching

1509
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 1: us to correct fundamentals, this is not a coaching thing.

1510
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 5: This is a player thing, I believe.

1511
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 3: So, I mean, like I said, coaches can't go out

1512
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 3: there and play. They can't make any tackle for you,

1513
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 3: you know. But look the way they're practicing now, you know,

1514
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 3: is different than the way we practice. You know, we

1515
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 3: practice wore pads a lot more. We were actually ones

1516
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 3: on ones a lot more. That means good on good

1517
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,919
Speaker 3: first string offense against first ring defense, no scout team,

1518
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 3: no cards, right, no cards, just your your offense against

1519
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 3: you know, my first thing defense. And we thud, meaning

1520
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 3: like we hit the running backs, We thud the tight ends.

1521
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 3: You know, we're going up and we're getting off of lineman.

1522
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 3: I don't know how much they're doing that nowadays in

1523
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 3: the NFL. I don't even know if they can do that.

1524
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 3: You know, nowadays in the NFL.

1525
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: There are literally only a there is a limited number

1526
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: of practices during the season in which.

1527
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 3: You and no one tackles during the season.

1528
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 12: I'm not talking about that.

1529
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 3: I'm talking about maybe that step fast speed on speed,

1530
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 3: which is good against good ones on ones, twos on.

1531
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 2: Two you're probably only get a thud though in your

1532
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 2: full pads on you're not gonna thud if you have

1533
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 2: shows on right, No, I mean, but.

1534
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 3: You you do, you play, you play at a certain

1535
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 3: speed going against a scout team. I'm sorry, you're just

1536
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 3: not gonna be at one hundred percent. You know, you

1537
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 3: got guys that aren't playing in the NFL servicing you

1538
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 3: as a scout team. Right the way you get better

1539
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 3: at practice when you go ones on ones, when you

1540
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 3: go against guys that are playing in the NFL at

1541
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 3: full speed, and of course you're not tackling them, but

1542
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 3: at least getting to the point of contact with that

1543
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 3: full speed engagement. And I don't know how much they're

1544
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 3: doing how much they're doing that in practice. I don't

1545
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 3: know if they're even eligible to do that at practice.

1546
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 3: But you know something's not transpiring over because they keep

1547
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 3: saying they're practicing well and it's going well. But something's

1548
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 3: not transferring over because what we've seen here every single

1549
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 3: game I met life, we've seen poor tackling here.

1550
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 2: And Paul, the bigger problem now this week, it's a

1551
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 2: short week. This is all walk through a week like

1552
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 2: you can't. You can't do anything any of that this

1553
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 2: week on the Thursday didn't come it up.

1554
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: No, you can't.

1555
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 25: And I think what what I'm pleased about the reason

1556
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 25: that you aired that, John, and you're gonna air Dexter

1557
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 25: Lawrence in just a bit.

1558
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: We already did, We already already did.

1559
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 25: Ok Folks, if you didn't pick it up, those two

1560
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 25: guys are beyond angry. They're furious, Yes they are. They

1561
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 25: are furious. You could see it in their eyes, You

1562
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 25: could see it in their body language. I know you

1563
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 25: don't have a visual on the radio, but it was there,

1564
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 25: more angry, more disgusted, more fire than I have ever

1565
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 25: seen in this giant's locker room, and at least in

1566
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 25: recent years.

1567
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: And that's about the defensive performance from those two.

1568
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's want to make sure that we're being

1569
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 2: clear about what they're angry about.

1570
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 25: I don't want people strap a leading no no, no

1571
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 25: no about about what they put on the field. And

1572
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 25: by the way, for anybody out there, and there were

1573
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 25: fans out there who keep saying, well, you don't lose out,

1574
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 25: get the higher draft pick, okay, I would love for

1575
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 25: you to go nose to those with these guys and

1576
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 25: tell them that it's better to lose out, because if

1577
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 25: you were in their faces and you could see and

1578
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 25: hear what they were saying, then you would never dream

1579
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 25: of saying lose out.

1580
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 1: I want to never say that.

1581
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 2: I want to revisit Jac's question about the offensive leadership

1582
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 2: in the next segment. But we have one more guy

1583
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 2: on defense in the locker. U. I want to get

1584
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 2: to Keevon Thibodau talked to the media after the game.

1585
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 2: It's his first game back from that worst injury. Let's

1586
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 2: listen to him downstairs.

1587
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 12: NFL had winning games are hard and you know, we

1588
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 12: just gotta keep getting better.

1589
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 28: Belief just said to us that he's just tired of losing.

1590
01:07:58,800 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 4: Man.

1591
01:07:59,000 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 12: I tied to this.

1592
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 34: Keep mind no uh real poison, just copestic and obviously

1593
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 34: all you can do is your job and this point

1594
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 34: in you know, just tryna continue to focus on what

1595
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 34: us as outside line and backing group in one of

1596
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 34: the defense.

1597
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 12: You know we could get better at.

1598
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 28: To contribute to the team defensively as a group. Do

1599
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 28: you just need to make a to do a better

1600
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 28: job of acting.

1601
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 34: Yeah, and that and that just starts with the individual.

1602
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 34: I think, you know, we gotta get back to the

1603
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 34: simple things. You know, Football's about making tackles and getting

1604
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 34: a a f uh offensive down the ground.

1605
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:27,600
Speaker 12: So we gotta do a lot better at that.

1606
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 30: People have to be an out for about a month

1607
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 30: or so with the West, how do you feel physically?

1608
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 4: You real to do what you wanna do.

1609
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 34: Definitely was gas, but you know you you gotta keep

1610
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 34: uh playing. You know Z's went out early, so I

1611
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 34: had to you know, do more than you expect them.

1612
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 34: But that's the nature of the beast. So just me

1613
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 34: trying to continue to get back in, you know.

1614
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 10: Show up.

1615
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 28: Were they just really good today or did you guys

1616
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 28: struggle in areas?

1617
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 9: Uh?

1618
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 34: A little bit of both, man. I I I think

1619
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 34: you can't take any team for granted. Every team is

1620
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 34: good in the NFL. I just think you know, you

1621
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 34: gotta make the players when they come to you.

1622
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:00,440
Speaker 28: Dave said, just not good enough today as a club.

1623
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 10: Do you agree with that?

1624
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 25: Uh?

1625
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 34: Yeah, you know we had opportunities. We didn't take advantage

1626
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,839
Speaker 34: of him, and you know we didn't make away for ourselves.

1627
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 4: So tips, what are some of the main issues to

1628
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 4: see and stopping it?

1629
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,719
Speaker 12: I think just fundamentals we gotta tackle. We got a rally.

1630
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 12: When we do get there, it looks great. When we

1631
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 12: don't looks horrendous. So just being Sharper. I think we

1632
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 12: just got to continue, you know, getting better at our

1633
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:23,480
Speaker 12: individual fundamentals.

1634
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 4: How deceptibly slippery.

1635
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:26,719
Speaker 10: Take a few nights.

1636
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 34: Uh smart quarterback, very elusive, you know, and very heads up,

1637
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 34: gud get at finding you know, his dumb down receiver target.

1638
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 12: So you know they got the best of us.

1639
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 2: That's Kevon Thibodeau. After the game, guys, good to see

1640
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 2: him back on the field. But the pass rush Paul

1641
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 2: not existed in this game. They weren't getting close to Bakers,

1642
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 2: not like he was just getting the ball out. Jac

1643
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 2: made the point of ordering the post game, they're blitzing.

1644
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 2: He's still sitting back there, reading the field, getting it out.

1645
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 2: Bob made this point. A bunch of times on third

1646
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 2: downs he scrambled. He's running for first downs left and right.

1647
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 2: Uh second a game. They didn't have a great game

1648
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 2: against the Panthers in Munich either or the pass rush

1649
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 2: has got a little bit quiet the last couple of

1650
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 2: times out.

1651
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 25: We need to give credit to Mayfield's a s capability

1652
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 25: because he was very good.

1653
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: Not a lot of pressure though.

1654
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 25: No, there were times, Look, Jonathan's next to me in

1655
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 25: the box right, and there are times he's like Oh,

1656
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 25: they blitzed.

1657
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: Look at the time he's got and five and six

1658
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 1: guys are coming. And by the time they get to

1659
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 1: Mayfield four and.

1660
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 25: A half five seconds down the road, he's already looked

1661
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,480
Speaker 25: at his first spot, two three receivers.

1662
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 1: Then he decides to move out and then he makes

1663
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: a play.

1664
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 25: No, I don't think there's any question John, in the

1665
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 25: last two weeks the pass rush in my opinion, and

1666
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 25: I know that their pressure number wasn't that bad against Carolina.

1667
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 25: I just don't think the pass rush was nearly as

1668
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 25: dangerous as it needed to be.

1669
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1670
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And you talked about scapability, and that's just pocket

1671
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 3: mobility what we've seen from Baker Mayfield and a couple

1672
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 3: of times we were talking throughout the game like there

1673
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 3: were people around him. But he did a great job

1674
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 3: in navigating that, you know, the space inside the pocket,

1675
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 3: getting to where the giants aren't and then getting the

1676
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 3: bought on a field, if you've got to cover for

1677
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 3: four or five seconds, that's almost impossible to do that

1678
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:10,839
Speaker 3: against these propersity.

1679
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 25: Now, JC I said this after the Carolina game, and

1680
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 25: we've heard of guys on the on the front seven

1681
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 25: talk about how the defense has to be unified in

1682
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 25: the pass rush.

1683
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: You have to come in a wave.

1684
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 25: What I've seen is that the last couple of weeks,

1685
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 25: the pass rush has been jagged like a key where

1686
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 25: you've had one guy here, but one guy back here,

1687
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 25: one guy here, and that allows these little pockets levels

1688
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 25: where exactly where they're not all on the same level

1689
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 25: of pass rush, and it allows pockets where if the

1690
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 25: quarterback has that escapability where he can find that little

1691
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 25: spot to move his feet, that's how he buys the

1692
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 25: extra time. And the Giants have not had that that

1693
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:53,919
Speaker 25: even press your eyes pass rush, it's been too jagged

1694
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:54,839
Speaker 25: in my opinion.

1695
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, a one zero, one nine. We'll take

1696
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 2: a quick break. We'll come back to get to yours.

1697
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 2: More sound from the locker room, that and more. The

1698
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,439
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Speaker 2: come back, take your calls more audio from the locker room.

1705
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: That more.

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01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:30,360
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Speaker 4: This is Tyrone Tracy Jr.

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01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 23: And you're listening to the radio home of Big Blue

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01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 23: the Fan, WFAN and w f AN FM, New.

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Speaker 2: York Backyard Giants Extra Point. Giants fall to the Bucks

1712
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 2: thirty to seven. The aforementioned Tyrone Tracy in the locker

1713
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 2: room after they gave me that big fumble inside the

1714
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 2: ten yard line.

1715
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 1: Let's hear from him.

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01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 19: The results changed the narrative over these next six games

1717
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 19: of where you are right now.

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01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 23: I mean, we've got a lot of talented, talented young

1719
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 23: guys now, you know, as you can see, I'll wee

1720
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 23: all contribute on the full off field. So I feel

1721
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 23: like we you know, we we we have a team

1722
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,799
Speaker 23: to where you know, potentially, you know, we can impact

1723
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 23: the game. You know, so anyway we can't impact the game,

1724
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 23: we need we need to make sure that we're doing

1725
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 23: it in in.

1726
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 12: The right way.

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01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:13,600
Speaker 30: So, Tront, if I may ask on the fumble, was

1728
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 30: you trying to do too much? You trying to give

1729
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 30: s extra third effort kind of things.

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01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 12: That would happen. Yeah, So I mean, I had the

1731
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 12: ball in the wrong hand.

1732
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 10: That's the main part.

1733
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 12: You know, I had the ball in right hand, should

1734
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 12: have had it in my left hand.

1735
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 23: But yeah, you know, I'm always trying to fight for

1736
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,679
Speaker 23: the x YR. But I gotta understand, you know, when

1737
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 23: enough is enough, and that right there just kinda kind

1738
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 23: of hurted us.

1739
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 12: Hurt us, you know at the end of the day.

1740
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 23: So whether that situation ever comes up again, I gotta understand,

1741
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 23: you know, when it called the ball is off and

1742
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 23: just you know, go down. But again, I feel like

1743
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 23: if I had a ball on my left hand, you

1744
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:45,600
Speaker 23: know that that w you know, wouldn't happen, you.

1745
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 12: Know how power ability, it wouldn't happen.

1746
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 30: I've seen some coaches when a young player has a

1747
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 30: turn over like that, they abandon him, frivel in a while.

1748
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 30: Ryan David doesn't do that to you. He gives you

1749
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 30: the ball back again. In fact, that even saw him

1750
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 30: talk to you on the sidelines.

1751
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:57,600
Speaker 12: How much does that mean to you?

1752
01:13:57,760 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 10: It means a lot, you know, s I mean and

1753
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 10: day they have a good relationship.

1754
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 4: Sup.

1755
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 23: He knows I play hard, he knows like I do

1756
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 23: things the right way to best my ability, and you

1757
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,560
Speaker 23: know that fumble really doesn't define me. And you know

1758
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 23: he has trusted me, and I trust myself as well.

1759
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 23: So when I got there on the football field, I

1760
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 23: do my best to put the team, uh in a

1761
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 23: in a good position.

1762
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 30: Tybone Blane Table said, you guys are really good, big

1763
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,679
Speaker 30: good pride in something time about execution.

1764
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 5: Wis why is.

1765
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 4: That not translating over to Sunday after thos or in

1766
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 4: this case, this Sunday. Yeah, I thought it was.

1767
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 23: Yeah, we we have to execute better, you know, that's

1768
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 23: really all it is.

1769
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 10: You know, we have to execute better.

1770
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 23: You know, and during the week, you know, it's kind

1771
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 23: of a controlled environment out here on Sundays was not controlled,

1772
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 23: so you know we have to you know, kind of

1773
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 23: flow with the punches.

1774
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 10: But at the end of the day, we have to

1775
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 10: do our job.

1776
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 5: You know, Uh, each and every person on the football field.

1777
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 23: Dave's call the place, so we have to go out

1778
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 23: there and you know, execute you know everything he call

1779
01:14:58,960 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 23: what he calls.

1780
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 2: That's Tyrone Tracy. Let's go to Cliff in hand. He

1781
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 2: wanted to talk about Tyrone Tracy. Cliff what's going on?

1782
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 35: Yeah, thanks, guys. Yeah, you know, at the bottom line,

1783
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 35: it's a young team, and he's he's the he's the

1784
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 35: person I'm thinking of first, because you know, he put

1785
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 35: out either a tweet or a comment a couple of

1786
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 35: weeks ago, you know, after one of his big games

1787
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 35: and hey, it's only you know, and I've only been

1788
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 35: a running back for a year, remember that. And and

1789
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 35: that's the point. You know, most running backs in the

1790
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 35: NFL have been running backs their whole life. And I

1791
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 35: don't think he's had that much experience, you know, with

1792
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 35: the situations where he's lost it, you.

1793
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 1: Know, like some of those things, Cliff, where you're not

1794
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 1: putting in the right hand.

1795
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,640
Speaker 2: I think that you actually could I think chalk that

1796
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 2: up to natural experience.

1797
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 1: Correct, I agree with that, And that's fair.

1798
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 35: Yeah, and it was it was changing hands the last time,

1799
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 35: so yep.

1800
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 24: Yeah.

1801
01:15:55,960 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 35: And going into the game, you know that that first drive.

1802
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 35: You know, we talked about other teams during the broadcast

1803
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 35: that they mentioned other teams coming in to us for

1804
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 35: their get right game. Well, you know, this reminded me

1805
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 35: of the Bengals game. You know, the Bengals were supposed

1806
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 35: to have had all kinds of problems coming in to

1807
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 35: see us, and the same thing we said about Tampa

1808
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 35: on defense. And what we don't get before the game comes,

1809
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 35: and what the coaches can't prepare for is what those

1810
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:32,679
Speaker 35: other teams have done since their last game to fix

1811
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 35: their stuff. And we found out after the Bengals game

1812
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 35: that they had fixed a lot of stuff and then

1813
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 35: still not doing that great, but still they did a

1814
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 35: lot better against us. And the same thing happened today,

1815
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 35: you know. And the other thing that I.

1816
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 2: Noticed was he, by the way, real quick, just said

1817
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 2: not to in drupt your cliff. Cowboys have not won

1818
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 2: a game in hobyet this year.

1819
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 22: Right, who's next?

1820
01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 35: We'll see, I'll be here.

1821
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 4: But but.

1822
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 35: No, they this this team won the Super Bowl not

1823
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 35: that long ago. And at least three guys that I

1824
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 35: remember were out there today, and all three of them

1825
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 35: made big plays. Evans, Vita Veay, and Devonte David. They

1826
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 35: all made big plays. So they still got those guys.

1827
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 35: And Baker is who he is, and and uh, you

1828
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 35: know that that was This is a this is a

1829
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 35: playoff team from last year that has a clear path

1830
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 35: to getting back in the playoffs this year. And it's

1831
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 35: they're just so much more advanced than us. But the

1832
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 35: whole young team thing is I wonder if the tackling thing,

1833
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 35: the technique really means angle. I mean, Bryan Burns also

1834
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 35: mentioned wrapping up, but you know, these guys that got

1835
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,680
Speaker 35: drafted the big defensive players for us, they've also been

1836
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 35: tackling their whole life, you know, And I think it's

1837
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 35: just very different. You guys have taught us when they

1838
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 35: get to the NFL and and you know, the game

1839
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 35: is faster. It's only the best guys from all of

1840
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 35: the experience that they've had before that they're going up

1841
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:07,600
Speaker 35: against everybody on the field that like that play that

1842
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 35: Moossau may missed. I'm sure he knows how to tackle,

1843
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 35: but isn't it maybe angle more than wrapping up and

1844
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 35: that that would be maybe the technique that they're talking about.

1845
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 35: But nobody's given up. And I think it did make

1846
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 35: a difference the whole Daniel thing of because they got

1847
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 35: that out of Brian Burns. I forget exactly the way

1848
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 35: he said it, but you know, he said, he's a captain,

1849
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 35: he's a leader, and you know, it's a bummer. He

1850
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 35: said it was a bummer, That's what he said.

1851
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 2: And Cliff absolutely right. Look and in some ways it

1852
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 2: is bommer. When we appreciate the call, but we're going

1853
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 2: to talk about this with a couple of the callers

1854
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 2: they we have on the line. I mean, guys, look,

1855
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 2: we we knew going in here all the problems with

1856
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 2: the team this year. We're not the quarterback. I mean,

1857
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:56,679
Speaker 2: we went through the whole self scout this week, whether

1858
01:18:56,720 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 2: we did takeaways, the run defense, red zone execution through it.

1859
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 1: It wasn't just a quarterback issue. The drops. It wasn't

1860
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 1: just a quarterback issue. Thissue.

1861
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 2: Now, people yelled us for saying that earlier in the year.

1862
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 2: Now I feel like people on the other side of

1863
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 2: the yells of saying it again.

1864
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 3: For another reason, Paul, let me let me speak about

1865
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 3: what Cliff said about the defense too. Yes, he talked

1866
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 3: about the angles, but it's all of those things that

1867
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 3: Cliff was mentioning, right. And we talk about these young

1868
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 3: players coming into the league, and they always talk about

1869
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 3: the speed of the game, how it's so much faster.

1870
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 3: It's not about the players being fast, It's about how

1871
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 3: fast the plays are being ran, how fast the running

1872
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 3: backs are getting to the line of scrimmage, how fast

1873
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 3: those linemen are getting up to you, how fast they're

1874
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 3: executing the plays. If you're thinking on defense, you're lost.

1875
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 3: You lost already. You have to read and react. You

1876
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 3: don't think on defense. You think and you process information

1877
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 3: before the play. Then after the play you read and react.

1878
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 3: There's no time to think. And if these young guys

1879
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 3: are out there trying to process information after the ball

1880
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 3: is snapped, they're gonna be late. And I think that's

1881
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 3: what you're kind of seeing. Got a lot of young guys,

1882
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:00,040
Speaker 3: especially in the secondary, playing for the Giants, and a

1883
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 3: little bit late because I think they're trying to process

1884
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 3: information instead of reader reactor.

1885
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 25: When people talk about winning attitude to me, Jonathan, and

1886
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 25: I think you can speak to this because you've been

1887
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 25: on winning and losing teams. That's about how you deal

1888
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 25: with the emotions during the game. How you focus play

1889
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 25: to play to play, how you make sure you cross

1890
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 25: all your t's and you dot all your eyes, and

1891
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 25: you pay attention to all the little details. Those kinds

1892
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 25: of things add up to making winning plays. That's how

1893
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 25: you become a winner, so to speak. Okay, so think

1894
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 25: about this for a second. This Giant's roster right now

1895
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 25: has two guys with a Super Bowl ring. Okay, only

1896
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:47,640
Speaker 25: two Stinny and Notcho Newness Roaches, two guys who have

1897
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 25: actually worn a Super Bowl ring. I think that's something

1898
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 25: that needs to be considered. I think when I said

1899
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 25: on the pregame show, only seventeen of the fifty three

1900
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 25: active players we're on the playoff team of twenty twenty two,

1901
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 25: you've got a whole bunch.

1902
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 1: Of guys the last two years on this team who

1903
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 1: have not known winning.

1904
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 25: And I hate to say it, but it's a chicken

1905
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 25: in the EDG kind of thing until you get there,

1906
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 25: until you taste it.

1907
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's very hard to hear people speak about it

1908
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 1: and experience it. Until you do it yourself, you can't

1909
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 1: get it right.

1910
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I fully agree with that. And they don't know

1911
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 3: what a winning standard is, you know, And I think

1912
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 3: that's kind of what it is. Like Dave Ball has

1913
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:35,879
Speaker 3: experienced winning, you know, he's part of Patriot's, part of Alabama,

1914
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 3: like when they win that championship, Like he's been around it,

1915
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 3: so he understands it, right, Joe Shane with Buffalo, he

1916
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,679
Speaker 3: understands what winning is. A lot of these players don't

1917
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 3: understand what it means and what it looks like to

1918
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 3: win in the NFL. Some of these guys won in college. Okay, cool,

1919
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 3: and the NFL is a whole different story.

1920
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 2: I mean, even Brian Birds in Carolina did not do

1921
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 2: a whole lot of correct, right, correct. I want to

1922
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 2: get back to the calls eight eight eight eight one

1923
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 2: zero one nine. Let's go to Frank inside of it.

1924
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 2: He'll join us next on Giants extra point.

1925
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 22: Hey Frank, Hi, guys, Yeah, I'm a loyal Giants fan,

1926
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 22: and go get back to Frank talking to the numb

1927
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 22: In my sixties, you know, I used to listen to

1928
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:15,640
Speaker 22: poll O'Neil on the Yankee say when you put that

1929
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 22: little pinstripe jersey on at the end of the why

1930
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 22: it makes you do special things? And I don't hear

1931
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 22: any of that. I'm sorry to say. I'm sorry to

1932
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 22: speak this way because I love the Giants, but I

1933
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 22: was listening even to the Rugies game yesterday and in

1934
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 22: the post game, and they didn't win, but the head

1935
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 22: coach would say things like, you know, they left it

1936
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 22: all out in the field. I wish I could have

1937
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:37,640
Speaker 22: gave him a win. To the Senior's Day. It was

1938
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 22: their last home game that they'll ever have, and but

1939
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 22: they pull for each other. They the guys on the line,

1940
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 22: look look to the guy that left the right of them,

1941
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 22: and see how they're breaking it butt and it makes

1942
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 22: them do things they might might not feel like doing today.

1943
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 22: And I don't hear anything like that coming out of

1944
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 22: the head coach or any of the players pulling for

1945
01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 22: each other, loving each other. I I listened to the

1946
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 22: games in the radio. I hear a bunch of individuals,

1947
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 22: individual talents. I don't hear a team. I don't hear

1948
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 22: a team. I don't hear what straight hand and tuck

1949
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 22: and and and and Jacobs used to say it was

1950
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 22: all about team, team Eli, I don't hear that. And

1951
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 22: I'll tell you maybe maybe the head coach has to

1952
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 22: take a different approach. I know Tom Kompland had to.

1953
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 22: He had to stop screaming and yelling because the players

1954
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,560
Speaker 22: stopped listening. Maybe he's got to stop slamming the cliffboard

1955
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 22: on the sideline. Maybe he has to take a different approach.

1956
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 22: But you know, I don't see any stability that the

1957
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:43,759
Speaker 22: team is also you know, defensive coordinated gun McKinney gone, Sterley,

1958
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 22: Sheppard gone, Barkley gone, Jones gone.

1959
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 24: Uh.

1960
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 22: I don't see any stability anymore. And and Bob Poppa

1961
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 22: brought up a good point before too. What happened? Why

1962
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 22: isn't Pinnock, you know, picking off balls and running down

1963
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 22: the sideline. Why aren't getting those hits? Why aren't we

1964
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 22: getting those takeaways recovery fumbles?

1965
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 36: What happened?

1966
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:07,719
Speaker 22: They did it last year? I don't know if Frank

1967
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 22: I hear.

1968
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 2: You, man, I got you. I appreciate the call, and

1969
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 2: I is it just hard to talk that way when

1970
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 2: your record is what it is in the last tew years.

1971
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 2: It's been a lot of losing. I'm trying to put

1972
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 2: myself in the player's spot here to try it up.

1973
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 2: I think Frank I understand what he's saying. I get

1974
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 2: his point. I want to look to the player to

1975
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 2: see if you can give me some you know, insight

1976
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 2: into what the locker room's like.

1977
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 3: I mean, it gets repetitive. It's like you're saying the

1978
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 3: same thing week in and week out, you know, the

1979
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 3: act similar questions every week. And that's some of the

1980
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 3: you know, the beat writers are asking, like you said

1981
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,600
Speaker 3: that answer last week, you said that answer before? Is

1982
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 3: it just that? Is it more than that?

1983
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 20: You know?

1984
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 3: But like I said before, I've been in situations like this,

1985
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 3: and you're just trying to figure out, Am I doing

1986
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 3: everything that I can to help this team out? Am

1987
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 3: I practicing as hard I practice? Did I make the

1988
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,600
Speaker 3: place today? Was I execute correctly? That I have the

1989
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 3: right energy today? You start you have to look inward

1990
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 3: and question yourself. You have to, and I think most

1991
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,640
Speaker 3: of the guys are doing that, especially when you hear

1992
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 3: from the defensive guys. They're t and they're pointing at themselves.

1993
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 3: They're trying to take accountability for But this is almost inexplainable.

1994
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 20: You know.

1995
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 3: I feel like the team, the Giants team, especially in

1996
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 3: beginning the season, that they were a lot better than that.

1997
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 3: I thought they were a lot better than you know,

1998
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 3: losing twenty nine to six against the Vikings to open

1999
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 3: up the season, and then you looked at today and

2000
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 3: it's like, I don't want to say they've regressed, but

2001
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 3: they don't look any better, that's for sure. You know,

2002
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:26,719
Speaker 3: still missing tackles, still allowing big plays not execute on offense.

2003
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of questions, but there's not too

2004
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 3: many answers. And I think everybody just trying to search

2005
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 3: for that answer right now, and look they got a

2006
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 3: short turnaround. They're going into Dallas, and Dallas has not

2007
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 3: played well, so they got to figure out a way

2008
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 3: to answer some questions when they go down to Dallas.

2009
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 2: Talk about leadership on the offensive side of the ball.

2010
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:45,719
Speaker 2: One of the veterans on this team is Darius Slayton.

2011
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 2: Darius Slayton spoke to the media after the game, was

2012
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 2: listening on his and what he had to.

2013
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 4: Say that we can if people start doing their job.

2014
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 10: But I mean it's like anything bro out there. You

2015
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,560
Speaker 10: don't do what you're supposed to do, you get me

2016
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 10: and me collectively, you and.

2017
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 31: Division Jarry's how much of it was a matter of

2018
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 31: you guys not doing your jobs versus them playing just

2019
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 31: playing better.

2020
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 10: Yeah, they're a good football team.

2021
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 17: It certainly doesn't mean that they're not a good football team.

2022
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:11,600
Speaker 12: But at the same time, like.

2023
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 17: This is the National Football League, We're We're not this

2024
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:16,599
Speaker 17: isn't you know, Tom Dick and James down the street.

2025
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 12: We all drafted.

2026
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:19,600
Speaker 17: We were all the best Division on football players. So

2027
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 17: it's not like they got divisioning one players. We got

2028
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 17: Division five players. We got capable players that don't play

2029
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 17: like they're capable, period, And that's why we lose.

2030
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 12: That's why we go out there and get beat. Are

2031
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 12: you talking about player?

2032
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 4: It's not doing their jobs.

2033
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:32,719
Speaker 10: It's like collective or selective.

2034
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 12: It's everybody.

2035
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 17: And when you get beat like this, it's no one person,

2036
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,560
Speaker 17: two people, it's everybody. It's all twenty two people that

2037
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 17: play on offense and defense, special tenders.

2038
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 25: It's everybody right there else can hear it?

2039
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 37: House sicker years, very six long years in me though,

2040
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 37: And I do my best at the end of the day,

2041
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 37: like I turn out to be selfish.

2042
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:56,640
Speaker 4: I try to be a good teammate, but.

2043
01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:00,080
Speaker 10: Like the hat something point and it's it's exhausted, and

2044
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 10: you just want to compete.

2045
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 17: All my life, I just wanted to be playing football

2046
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 17: and competing with That's hasn't changed.

2047
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 12: I don't know about all that. I just think that,

2048
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:15,639
Speaker 12: you know, like I said, we just gotta do better.

2049
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 10: Is it?

2050
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 4: Is it hard?

2051
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 1: When you I mean, they have to say a couple

2052
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 1: guy clearly.

2053
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 12: Did he give you guys as did margin foot all weeks?

2054
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 37: How did you accept that as Yeah, like I said,

2055
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 37: you they didn't play to day, so he had nothing

2056
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:34,760
Speaker 37: to do with what we just put down there on

2057
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 37: the field.

2058
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 17: You know, at the end of the day, Like whatever

2059
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 17: happens off the field or any media or anything.

2060
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 12: Has nothing to do with what we do between those

2061
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 12: white mounts.

2062
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,679
Speaker 10: So we have to be better there.

2063
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 3: More so than anything.

2064
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 10: This is what I'm still do.

2065
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,559
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean as our coach and ride behind him

2066
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:54,639
Speaker 17: this weekend, try to get him.

2067
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 31: Any doubt there's Do you think the problem is mental

2068
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:00,599
Speaker 31: mistakes or is it physical combination?

2069
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 1: What do you think it is?

2070
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 12: It's a combination for sure.

2071
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 17: Right now we're obviously not doing anything things well physically,

2072
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 17: but some of our mistakes are definitely just mental as well.

2073
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 31: Do you think that they're compounding on people? In other words,

2074
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 31: you know, somebody gets beaten, it's like, oh god, it's

2075
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 31: gonna happen again. Where versus forgetting about it?

2076
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 17: Uh, that's kind of an individual basis, but I mean,

2077
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 17: I think it's it's the overall concept of like, you

2078
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:24,759
Speaker 17: can't everybody can't have a my bad, you know, because

2079
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 17: if you have one, he has when he has one,

2080
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 17: Now there's sixty my bads in a game, you know,

2081
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 17: so got to do your best to try to not

2082
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 17: contribute to.

2083
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:34,600
Speaker 15: That is sort of hard to think, Like, you know,

2084
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:36,599
Speaker 15: where do you guys go from here. Considering like obviously

2085
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 15: the bye week was an important time. Do you get

2086
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 15: guys to reset and even a lot of time off,

2087
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 15: you guys couldn't come out and form. Well, Now you

2088
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 15: have a short week on Thanksgiving. I mean, is it

2089
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 15: does make things I don't know. I don't mean to

2090
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 15: be harsh, but does it make things feel kind of hopeless.

2091
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 37: In a sense?

2092
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2093
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 17: I mean the only good thing about a short week

2094
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 17: is that you don't have a lot of time to

2095
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 17: dwell in this so reality is really tomorrow. You have

2096
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 17: to get onto Dallas and flush it. So in some ways,

2097
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:00,640
Speaker 17: it's kind of better that it is a short week because.

2098
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 12: We don't have as much time to sit around any

2099
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 12: you know, be depressed.

2100
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 2: That's Darius Slayton talked about how too many guys have

2101
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 2: my bads. Tommy did Youdo talked about too many guys

2102
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:13,639
Speaker 2: having mistakes on individual plays and little things that short

2103
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 2: circuit plays.

2104
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 1: And he is Paul, one of the veterans on the

2105
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball.

2106
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 25: And that's really the point that I wanted to make John,

2107
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 25: because if you talk to anyone who knows the guys

2108
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 25: in this locker room, and you said, Okay, give me

2109
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 25: some of the guys who are pros pros. Slayton is

2110
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 25: one of those guys at the top of the list.

2111
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 25: Dexter Lawrence is one of the guys at the.

2112
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 1: Top of the list.

2113
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:35,680
Speaker 2: Now it's fairness, though you're right about being a pro.

2114
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 2: Slane has his number of my bads this year too,

2115
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 2: at Drops. He has a platform. Oh I think I've

2116
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 2: got him for seven, to be honest, which is not

2117
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 2: a great number. But in terms of mentality, leadership, absolutely work, ethic, desire, effort,

2118
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:52,640
Speaker 2: pros pro I'm not talking production necessarily totally get it.

2119
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 5: And and you've just.

2120
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 25: Heard now on this program, and I would put Jimmy

2121
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 25: and Luminor in that ruguy Put absolutely wrote in that group.

2122
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas run group too.

2123
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:01,960
Speaker 5: Okay.

2124
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:07,679
Speaker 25: I mean, these guys are exemplary pros pros. And you're

2125
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 25: hearing from all those guys who are furious as heck

2126
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 25: right now about what's going on. And I think, actually,

2127
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 25: if there's any silver lining, that's a good sign, because

2128
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 25: you want those guys to be angry, because if those

2129
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 25: guys aren't angry and they're apathetic about it, you've got

2130
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 25: a big problem. But those guys, the guys you're looking

2131
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 25: up to, the guys. You want the other players in

2132
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:32,759
Speaker 25: the locker room to say, hey, we need to follow

2133
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 25: their lead. Those guys are putting it out there. They're saying,

2134
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 25: come on, follow the pipe piper.

2135
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:43,439
Speaker 1: We are stinking aft off. Right, let's go.

2136
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 25: That's That's about the only good thing I can say

2137
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 25: about the folks who are going to attack this locker room.

2138
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 25: Don't think that the giant locker room is splintered. Don't

2139
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 25: think that it is broken, because those guys are doing

2140
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 25: exactly what they should do. They feel as they should feel,

2141
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 25: and they're making sure their teammates understand and know about it.

2142
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 2: All right, let's go back to the calls here eight

2143
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 2: and eight eight oh eight, one zero one nine.

2144
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 1: Let's go to Joe in Westchester. He's up next.

2145
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 36: Hey Joe, Hey, guys, you.

2146
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:18,680
Speaker 38: Know I was watching the obviously the TV broadcast, and

2147
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 38: you know they mentioned Daniel Jones a couple of times,

2148
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:23,880
Speaker 38: two times. But as you mentioned earlier, you know, it's

2149
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 38: not all about the quarterback. The question that was begging

2150
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 38: to be asked on TV was what do you think

2151
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 38: Daniel Jones is thinking right now watching this game?

2152
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 12: Oh?

2153
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:34,720
Speaker 22: What do you think?

2154
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 2: Well, honestly, I'm sorry I'm interrupting all that, Paul answer too,

2155
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 2: but I think I bet you Daniel watch this game

2156
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 2: and he's devastated that a bunch of his friends and

2157
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 2: teammates had a poor game.

2158
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I could not agree with.

2159
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 25: You more because he knows what it's like to go

2160
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 25: through that, and now he had to sit home and

2161
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 25: watch it.

2162
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:54,840
Speaker 1: Thank you. You know what, it might have been even

2163
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 1: worse for him to have to sit in front of

2164
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 1: a TV and see that and not be able to

2165
01:31:59,360 --> 01:31:59,759
Speaker 1: do anything.

2166
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 2: He likes Tommy DeVito, he doesn't want to see him

2167
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 2: get his no question and absolutely no this this this

2168
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 2: was hard for everybody.

2169
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones a warrior, you know, no matter what anybody

2170
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:12,640
Speaker 3: else thinks of him. And I talked about this pre

2171
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 3: game too. You can't take away his toughness. It's very

2172
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 3: difficult to win games in NFL. It's very difficult to

2173
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 3: play quarterback for a New York football team. Well, he's

2174
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 3: done it for six years and got his criticism throughout

2175
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:24,759
Speaker 3: the way, and he took.

2176
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:25,120
Speaker 12: It on a chin.

2177
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 2: That's the frustrating thing about Daniel Jones, right, He checked

2178
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 2: every box like such a a dude, toughness, leadership, teammates.

2179
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 1: You see it here.

2180
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:35,439
Speaker 2: His teammates talk about him just between the lines when

2181
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 2: the balls in his hands. He wasn't good enough level

2182
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:40,760
Speaker 2: and that's why the change had to be made when

2183
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 2: it was you know, we went through that three game

2184
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 2: stretcher in the year where it looked like he might

2185
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 2: have been turning a corner.

2186
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:45,759
Speaker 1: You had the game against Seattle.

2187
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:47,600
Speaker 2: You would those three you know, three games in a

2188
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 2: row where he had two touchdown passes and no interceptions

2189
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 2: and you're like, all right, well maybe something to turn

2190
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Speaker 2: around here. And it fell off again after that, so

2191
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 2: they had to make the change. And but you knew

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01:32:57,439 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 2: and again we talked about this when we did our

2193
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 2: little self scout thor the bye leak. Right, this team

2194
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 2: had so many issues that was just beyond the quarterback

2195
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 2: not being consistent.

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Speaker 25: I will tell you one thing that I know he

2197
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 25: probably felt as he was watching this when late in

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01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 25: the fourth quarter Tommy DeVito got rocked and had to

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Speaker 25: come out of the game. Right, I'm gonna tell you

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01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 25: right now, Daniel's probably screaming at the TV. Get up,

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01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 25: Get up, Get up. I hope he gets back in there,

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01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 25: and when de Vito came back in the game for

2203
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 25: the last drive, I was I thought that was significant

2204
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 25: because Tommy DeVito is Jersey tough and he's not gonna

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01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:31,600
Speaker 25: let those people knock him out of the game no

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01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 25: matter how bad the score was.

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01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 1: He was kind of like, you know, Jake Lamona, you

2208
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:37,760
Speaker 1: didn't get me down, y, you didn't get me down.

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Speaker 1: He went back out there for the fifteenth round.

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Speaker 20: All right.

2211
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 2: I wanna go to Wilson in Roxbury, but he wants

2212
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 2: to talk about DJ two before we say goodbye DJ.

2213
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 1: What's Wilson? What's going on?

2214
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 36: Hey, Johnny, it's up.

2215
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 12: What's up?

2216
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 4: Wilson? How you doing?

2217
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:53,840
Speaker 34: Rather listen, I'm.

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01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:57,160
Speaker 36: Gonna tell you something to real quick. Pully. If Marry men,

2219
01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 36: I don't excuse this you have for this team, this coach,

2220
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:05,880
Speaker 36: this general manager, they wouldn't be any divorces, man. I mean,

2221
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:09,000
Speaker 36: if you asked me to tell people that this team

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01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 36: plays hard for this head coach and that they in

2223
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:14,759
Speaker 36: the locker room, it is not divided. You are lying

2224
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 36: to every Giants fans.

2225
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 1: Wilson, Wilson, Wilson, The locker room is not divided. It's not.

2226
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 25: Have you not listened to the actual audio that was

2227
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 25: played for you. That stuff was not Ai, the stuff

2228
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:30,600
Speaker 25: with Jack and.

2229
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 36: A microphone police this team, this team had two weeks

2230
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:38,360
Speaker 36: to prepare what what what happens now? There's not enough

2231
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:40,719
Speaker 36: mirrors and New Jersey for them to look at Desesson

2232
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:44,600
Speaker 36: the mirror there. This is not enough film in Hollywood

2233
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:47,720
Speaker 36: for Brian Daviell to look at the film. And and

2234
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 36: and if you tell me that this guy is a

2235
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:53,520
Speaker 36: good head coach, you're actually insulted every Giants fans intelligence.

2236
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:55,680
Speaker 36: And I'm sorry, I'm upset because this.

2237
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:56,839
Speaker 22: Is crazy already.

2238
01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 36: It's not Daniel Jones, right, I mean, last time I checked,

2239
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 36: you didn't play today right.

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Speaker 2: Now, Wilson. Look, Wilson, appreciate the call. You've very right

2241
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 2: to be upset. The product has not been good. We

2242
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 2: totally get where you're coming from on that. But every

2243
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 2: player in the locker room was asked during their interviews

2244
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 2: today whether or not the locker room is broken up,

2245
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:18,640
Speaker 2: whether or not the effort is poor, And to a man,

2246
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 2: they've all said no. And usually to be honest with you,

2247
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:23,280
Speaker 2: when you get to this point in the year and

2248
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,720
Speaker 2: you have veteran leaders on the team and the effort's poor,

2249
01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 2: one of those veteran leaders will come out and say

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01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 2: publicly the effort.

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01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:30,560
Speaker 1: Is poor, or at least hit you with some I

2252
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 1: don't know career, yes, yeah, or leave it up the chance.

2253
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 2: But everyone has been pretty sure to say like no,

2254
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 2: like we're still practicing hard.

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01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 1: Now does that matter in the end?

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01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,599
Speaker 2: And you know it's all about results, right, But these

2257
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:45,440
Speaker 2: guys are the leaders of the defense, are being asked outright.

2258
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 1: Are you guys still working hard? And the practicing hard?

2259
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 1: Is the attitude good?

2260
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:48,000
Speaker 25: Are you?

2261
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 1: Are you playing hard for the coaching?

2262
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:51,680
Speaker 2: Everyone is saying yes, so I have to take their

2263
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 2: word for it, even though the performance in the execution,

2264
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:56,759
Speaker 2: especially in this game, has been very and a number.

2265
01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:59,439
Speaker 25: Of players quickly came to the coach's defense by saying,

2266
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 25: we're the one out there, not the coaches. I don't

2267
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 25: know how many of the guys actually made it to

2268
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 25: the audio of a prost game show dexter Dave Brian

2269
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:09,320
Speaker 25: Burns did for several guys. Several guys went out of

2270
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:11,720
Speaker 25: their way to say, Hey, we're the ones out there.

2271
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 25: The coaches aren't out there playing. They didn't miss the

2272
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 25: tackles all.

2273
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 1: Right, let's take a time out. We'll come back. We're

2274
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 1: wrap things.

2275
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:18,919
Speaker 2: I'll look ahead to Thursday night's game or Thursday afternoons

2276
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,720
Speaker 2: game on Thanksgiving against the Cowboys. On Giants Extra Point,

2277
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 2: Giants fall to the Bucks thirty to seven.

2278
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:23,840
Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 7: You are listening to Giants Extra Point on the Wfan

2280
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 7: Giants Radio network.

2281
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 9: This is Brian Dabill, head football coach in New York Giants,

2282
01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:34,639
Speaker 9: and you're listening to radio home of Big Blue, the Fan,

2283
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 9: WFAN and WFANFM, New York.

2284
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:40,600
Speaker 2: Back here on Giants Extra Point, Giants lose to the

2285
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 2: Bucks thirty to seven. They fall to two and nine.

2286
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 2: Let's go to Harvey and Dix Hills. He's our final

2287
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:46,720
Speaker 2: caller today on Giants Extra Point.

2288
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 22: I Harve, Hi, how are you all?

2289
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 21: I learned from you? So I got two points if

2290
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:55,720
Speaker 21: you wouldn't mind? What what do you mean by port

2291
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 21: tackling when I obviously a different level. We were taught

2292
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:04,280
Speaker 21: to low and to read and react, and in the

2293
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:08,120
Speaker 21: pros at least seems my impression that they're more interested

2294
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 21: in takeaways as they are in tackling, and they seem

2295
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:13,559
Speaker 21: to be involved in a lot of solo tackles when

2296
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:16,000
Speaker 21: there should be maybe two or three people or gang

2297
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 21: what we used to call gang tackling.

2298
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 2: And Harvey, I will let Jonathan you see his answered

2299
01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 2: that question for a standby and we'll get to your

2300
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:22,559
Speaker 2: second question.

2301
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 1: Jac answer to.

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01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:25,799
Speaker 3: Thank you, Yeah, Harvey, I say this every week, especially

2303
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 3: before the game. You have to gang tackle guys population

2304
01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:29,040
Speaker 3: to the football.

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01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:30,040
Speaker 21: That I agree with.

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01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:32,000
Speaker 3: It helps you secure the tackle, but then it also

2307
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:35,479
Speaker 3: creates opportunities for takeaways as well. And giants have a

2308
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:36,840
Speaker 3: good job at neither one of those.

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01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 1: All right, what's your second question?

2310
01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 35: Harfin the other way?

2311
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 21: But you know Daniel Jones, we know was released, and

2312
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 21: I don't want to go through all the things, the

2313
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 21: negative things, you know, POI accuracy, missing receivers, can't throw,

2314
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:50,760
Speaker 21: doesn't throw downfield, et cetera, et cetera. But I was

2315
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 21: a little surprised that the veto was chosen over Drew

2316
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 21: Locke in terms of the order of quarterbacks. What's your

2317
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:01,320
Speaker 21: impression of that? What are the what's your impression of

2318
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:04,439
Speaker 21: all three of those quarterbacks? Do they did the veto

2319
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 21: and Drew lock off for more than Jones did?

2320
01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:11,040
Speaker 25: Well, you have to understand that, right, now, with only

2321
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:14,120
Speaker 25: a one year contract for Locke, he's likely not to

2322
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 25: come back at the end of the season. Jones is

2323
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:19,719
Speaker 25: already gone. DeVito at least as a restricted free agent,

2324
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 25: you've got the right to put out a tender offer

2325
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:26,719
Speaker 25: for right a first refusal for him, which means, realistically speaking,

2326
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 25: he may be the only quarterback that you'll have on

2327
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:31,759
Speaker 25: your roster going into free agency.

2328
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:32,960
Speaker 1: And that's the future part of it.

2329
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:34,680
Speaker 2: The present part of it is that they did win

2330
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:36,679
Speaker 2: games of him last year, and he has more experience

2331
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:38,839
Speaker 2: than the offensive lock correct, and even.

2332
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:41,760
Speaker 25: Locke set himself. Look, I had a cameo during the preseason.

2333
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 1: I got hurt.

2334
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 25: He's he's been working this system for two years. I

2335
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,360
Speaker 25: had very little game tape to show anybody.

2336
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 2: Now, if this continues, they don't score points, we might

2337
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:52,720
Speaker 2: see you lock. Because it's over. We thought we've got

2338
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 2: not impossible. We also got it for one play today

2339
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 2: because Tommy got banged up and he almos said, they

2340
01:38:57,080 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 2: get taken out of the game.

2341
01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 1: And this is a short week too, so just to

2342
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:01,960
Speaker 1: keep in mind there, all.

2343
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 2: Right, guys, a couple of days left here, three days

2344
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:07,400
Speaker 2: now until the Giants travel to Dallas to play the

2345
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 2: Cowboys on thanks Giving. The Cowboys have been a very

2346
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 2: poor team this year. They're not a very good football team.

2347
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:13,160
Speaker 2: They did figure out a way to beat the Commanders

2348
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 2: today by some miracle in Washington.

2349
01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 1: Everyone's very surprised.

2350
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:18,800
Speaker 2: By that, especially with the wild way that game ended

2351
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 2: with Onzie kick returns, kickoff returns, eighty yard passes with

2352
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 2: less than a minute to go, just a wild finish.

2353
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 1: Paul, give me your thoughts here.

2354
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 2: How did the Giants get this fixed in three a's

2355
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 2: against a team frankly that as bad as the Giants

2356
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 2: had been playing this shore, I thought the Giants have

2357
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 2: been playing better than Dallas up until this week. Now

2358
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:38,960
Speaker 2: that's flopped, obviously, But your thoughts on the matchup against

2359
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:40,519
Speaker 2: the Cowboys on Thanksgiving, Yeah, I.

2360
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:41,719
Speaker 1: Agree with your comment.

2361
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:44,800
Speaker 25: I thought the Giants had in general played better than

2362
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:46,599
Speaker 25: Dallas until this weekend's games.

2363
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 1: Look, I go back to what I just saw today, right.

2364
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:53,559
Speaker 25: I saw the Giants first four possessions as they were

2365
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:56,720
Speaker 25: down twenty three to nothing by the time they got

2366
01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 25: the ball at the very end of the first half

2367
01:39:58,479 --> 01:39:59,360
Speaker 25: to do a kneel down.

2368
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 1: I saw that, and I said, are you kidding me?

2369
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:04,640
Speaker 24: That?

2370
01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 1: To me that slow start like they.

2371
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 25: Were literally crawling in the mud and getting sucked in

2372
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:14,840
Speaker 25: by quicksand that that's no way to start a game.

2373
01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 1: You do that against Dallas, you're gonna get whacked in

2374
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 1: Dallas too. Well. Not the way the Cowboys offens.

2375
01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:22,840
Speaker 5: Well at home.

2376
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:25,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can't play that way against another NFL team.

2377
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 1: That's just not acceptable.

2378
01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:31,519
Speaker 25: So my thinking is this, My thinking is this, on

2379
01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:34,720
Speaker 25: that first drive, make sure you get some points on

2380
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:35,759
Speaker 25: the first drive.

2381
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:38,559
Speaker 1: Get that monkey off your back right away. You should

2382
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:38,880
Speaker 1: be able to.

2383
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:40,560
Speaker 2: Run the ball against the Cowboys defense that has not

2384
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:42,760
Speaker 2: stopped to run. I'm tired of saying that they should

2385
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:43,719
Speaker 2: be able to because.

2386
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:45,840
Speaker 3: That was here a couple of months ago, when when

2387
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 3: Dallas came here, it was the worst defensive Russian team

2388
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:48,880
Speaker 3: in the league.

2389
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 2: How about today, the Bucks of one of the worst

2390
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:52,400
Speaker 2: passing defensive teams in the league. Didn't work out today

2391
01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:52,800
Speaker 2: at all either.

2392
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 25: So you're right, yeah, but you know not we always

2393
01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 25: laugh good start, good start, Well, you know what, boy,

2394
01:40:58,240 --> 01:40:59,000
Speaker 25: does this team.

2395
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:01,479
Speaker 2: Desperately need a good necessity for this team jac your

2396
01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 2: thoughts on the game on Thursday.

2397
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 5: That's it.

2398
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 3: I mean, the Giants got to put this one to bed.

2399
01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a rough one and you can

2400
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:09,720
Speaker 3: hear by every single guy that was interviewed. Do you

2401
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:12,639
Speaker 3: hear the frustration in everybody's voice. They take that home.

2402
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:14,080
Speaker 3: Hopefully they can get rid of it and come back

2403
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:16,600
Speaker 3: to work tomorrow, because it's a quick turnaround. When you

2404
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:19,320
Speaker 3: got those Thursdays, I never like those Thursday games just

2405
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:21,599
Speaker 3: because of it. But the Giants now played the second

2406
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:25,760
Speaker 3: Thursday game of the year. Quick turnaround this week thanksgiving

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Speaker 3: a lot of distractions. Hopefully the Giants can figure out

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Speaker 3: a way to kind of you know, be you know,

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Speaker 3: have their blinders on and focus on Dallas because Dallas

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Speaker 3: is not good at home. But that doesn't mean they

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Speaker 3: can't be better than the Giants and win against the Giants.

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Speaker 3: If the Giants don't come correct to play Dallas this.

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Speaker 2: a push on. We'll see you guys and talk to

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Speaker 2: you on Thursday. For continuing coverage of the Giants during

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Speaker 2: the week, check out the Giants Podcast, Networking go to

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Speaker 2: Giants dot com, Slash podcast, and the Giants Mobile app.

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Speaker 2: Our rapid reaction with I Believe It's Medel and Burking

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Speaker 2: the money tuber today should already be up there, so

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Speaker 2: go check that out. We'll have our usual game review

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Speaker 2: on the Huddle podcast on Wednesday. Willosopa Giants hang out

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Speaker 2: this week? Go check that out. And of course Big

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Speaker 2: Blue Kickoff Live is every weekday afternoon at twelve thirty

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Speaker 2: on Giants dot Com. Our myriad of folks will be

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Speaker 2: with you talking Giants football and taking your calls every day. Everyone,

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Speaker 2: have a happy Thanksgiving. Thank you for being with us today,

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Speaker 2: and we'll be with you again on Thursday as we

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Speaker 2: celebrate Thanksgiving and Giants football together right here on the fan.

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Speaker 2: Pregame show is at two thirty for Paul Patino, Jonathan Casias,

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Speaker 2: Howard Cross on the Sideline, Bob Popa, Carl Banks, and

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Speaker 2: our retire crew. Fantastic job today, everybody. We'll see you

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Speaker 2: on Thursday. Giants fall to the bucks three to seven.

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Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving. We'll see importance