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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Tuesday, September nineteenth, twenty seventeen, Seasons thirteen,
Speaker 1: episode of forty one. Welcome to another edition of The Break.
Speaker 1: We're locking SBbc Mortgage Studios talking Cowboys football. If you guys,
Speaker 1: We've got a full show, lots to talk about here
Speaker 1: to kind of recap on what's gone on in Week
Speaker 1: two of the NFL season. We'll take tuesdays to kind
Speaker 1: of get a bigger picture look and figure out what's
Speaker 1: happening across the NFC East and talk about some bigger
Speaker 1: things with regards to the Cowboys. Every Tuesday here on
Speaker 1: the Break. Haws everybody this morning. Every good. Everyone's doing good? Good?
Speaker 1: What I don't know, I'm speaking for everyone. That's fine.
Speaker 1: I haven't talked to anyone yet, but I feel like
Speaker 1: they're all doing good. Well. Was this the first time
Speaker 1: you've talked all morning. No, no, no, no, I've been
Speaker 1: doing some talking, a little parenting. It's a little bit.
Speaker 1: All right, let's jump in, let's talk some some Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I think the first thing I wanted to do is
Speaker 1: just kind of give everybody a kind of a recap
Speaker 1: of what's going on across the NFCS and get an
Speaker 1: opinion or two from you guys. Right now, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are are deadlocked as of two weeks. It really doesn't
Speaker 1: make a big difference, but there are three teams sitting
Speaker 1: in first place, tied at one and one, Cowboys, Eagles, Washington.
Speaker 1: Cowboys obviously lose this week, Philly loses as well, and
Speaker 1: then Washington gets to win against the Rams. The Giants
Speaker 1: are sitting at the end of the division at owen
Speaker 1: two after they lose on Monday Night Football last night.
Speaker 1: Oh the question I have for you guys, and I
Speaker 1: think memory serves correct. I think when we talked about
Speaker 1: this before, it may have been on on the air,
Speaker 1: may have been off the air. It seems like I
Speaker 1: thought we all were in agreement that the Giants were
Speaker 1: the team that you that you felt like was closest
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys. From the standpoint of either they win
Speaker 1: a division Cowboys win the division. If that's the case,
Speaker 1: do you still feel that way? And if not, who
Speaker 1: do you think is the team after two weeks that
Speaker 1: you would tab as the team that's closest to the
Speaker 1: Cowboys as far as winning the division. Dave, We'll start
Speaker 1: with you. It's way too soon into the season for
Speaker 1: this conversation to hold any merit. And I know oh
Speaker 1: and two is a big hole to dig out of,
Speaker 1: but I'm I mean, I'm not writing the Giants off
Speaker 1: as like this horrible team yet. And I watched that game.
Speaker 1: I know how bad they looked. I don't care. Eric
Speaker 1: Flowers is not a very good left tackle. But the
Speaker 1: whole NFL looks like crap right now, to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, that's my main impression through two weeks, except
Speaker 1: for maybe the Kansas City Chiefs. Awkins looked pretty good,
Speaker 1: the Falcons, the Steelers, and hey, the Detroit Lions look
Speaker 1: pretty solid. But it looks like nobody had a preseason
Speaker 1: like you just see a lot of bad, disjointed football.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the Giants look like crap. I still think
Speaker 1: the combination of the experience that they have on offense
Speaker 1: and that defense did. The Lions won that game despite
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford throwing for one hundred and twenty yards, the
Speaker 1: highest player, highest paid player in the NFL, a damn
Speaker 1: good quarterback in my opinion. I know Nick doesn't like
Speaker 1: him that much, but he threw for one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty yards on the road and still managed to beat them.
Speaker 1: That's how bad their offense was. But that's also how
Speaker 1: good their defense is. And I mean their defense looked
Speaker 1: pretty damn good against the Cowboys last week too, So
Speaker 1: I'm not ruling them out as some crappy team. It
Speaker 1: is a long season, I don't I don't get the
Speaker 1: feeling a lot of teams are really going to find
Speaker 1: out who they are and hit their stride until how
Speaker 1: you know, Halloween or so. So that said, from what
Speaker 1: I've seen of the Eagles and the Redskins, they both
Speaker 1: look like they have their strong suits. I haven't seen
Speaker 1: a ton. I know offensive line is maybe a problem
Speaker 1: for those guys, but the Eagles have an awesome defense.
Speaker 1: I know they gave Kansas City a decent game on
Speaker 1: the road and Arrowhead, So you still think the Giants
Speaker 1: are the team that was a lot I'm just asking
Speaker 1: you still think the Giants are the team. What do
Speaker 1: you think about the Falcons. I haven't seen a lot
Speaker 1: of the Falcons, but they box right. They only play
Speaker 1: one game? Um team boys, Yo, Mississippi State. Damn they
Speaker 1: look good. Well you had to throw that when kind
Speaker 1: of a low blow, I think, so I didn't mean that.
Speaker 1: We don't really do that to each other. That's kind
Speaker 1: of low. Oh I do that to everybody. So I mean,
Speaker 1: are you doing if anybody if I deserve it all
Speaker 1: back when ls who loses? Because I'm a jerk when
Speaker 1: I when they're winning. I try to leave people alone
Speaker 1: about their college team. But whatever, I digress. Team to beat,
Speaker 1: the team to beats probably the Cowboys in terms of
Speaker 1: like who looks the most well rounded out of right?
Speaker 1: And the question is outside of the Cowboys, who's that team? Right?
Speaker 1: It's I don't don't know. I'm all I know is
Speaker 1: the Giants have had a crappy star but I'm not
Speaker 1: ready to write them off yet. Nick Philly, We'll just say, Philly,
Speaker 1: I don't know they I mean, I just look at it.
Speaker 1: They haven't lost at home. Everyone else is lost at home,
Speaker 1: and so Philly hasn't lost at home. The Cowboys haven't
Speaker 1: lost at home. I mean, that's how early it is,
Speaker 1: so you just kind of start saying things like that.
Speaker 1: The Kansas City seems to be good. They played them
Speaker 1: fairly well up there, lost and then they've handled the Redskins.
Speaker 1: But I don't think their offensive line doesn't look that great.
Speaker 1: Neither does the Redskins needs the Giants. Neither does the Cowboys. Actually,
Speaker 1: from week one week two, I mean offensive line, so
Speaker 1: like everybody's offensive lines got issues. But I think if
Speaker 1: you have to make a call, it'say Eagles. That's a
Speaker 1: pretty big statement. You think the Cowboys have offensive line problems. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they look like crap against Denver. I mean bad, bad, bad,
Speaker 1: bad offensive And maybe maybe it's just me, but I
Speaker 1: think that was one game. I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have offensive line problems. I think they had
Speaker 1: off line problems in that game. There is a difference.
Speaker 1: We've only played understand that, but there is a difference
Speaker 1: between saying you have offensive line problems and you had
Speaker 1: offensive line problems in a game. Well, you know what,
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett tells everyone to recommit, don't worry about last year.
Speaker 1: Start from scratch, started zero and at zero, we've played
Speaker 1: two games. One of them they could not get more
Speaker 1: than one yard. You know, average per carry for for
Speaker 1: Zeke the best in the league and the second. In
Speaker 1: the Giants game, they didn't have a great success but
Speaker 1: I mean they did fairly well in that game against
Speaker 1: the Giants, against what we think is a good defense.
Speaker 1: But they've only played two games. Yeah, I think the
Speaker 1: offensive line played well in Week one. You don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they played well, and then they've played horrible.
Speaker 1: So what are they That's all. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think Derek is trying to say he's willing to
Speaker 1: give them the benefit of the doubt from last year,
Speaker 1: just from well based on again, if you look at
Speaker 1: body of work, I think that's a good way to
Speaker 1: put it. You look at body of work. Let's just
Speaker 1: go back to last year, last year. If you start
Speaker 1: at the beginning of last year earlier, all the way
Speaker 1: through these first two games of this season, two of
Speaker 1: the things have way more They have way more successes
Speaker 1: than they have failures. And I'm not one that believes
Speaker 1: that one game or two games in a body of
Speaker 1: eighteen games says that you're bad. Two of your five
Speaker 1: starters don't have a body of work. Okay, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying so you can't lump Chadz and Lyle into that.
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about as a whole. And you got
Speaker 1: three of those guys that have a ton of body
Speaker 1: of work, and they didn't play well this game either. No,
Speaker 1: I guess the point I'm making still is I think
Speaker 1: there is a distinction between you have offensive line problems
Speaker 1: in general, or you had offensive line problems in one game.
Speaker 1: I think we all agree they played horribly this last game,
Speaker 1: and we should say they played horribly this last game,
Speaker 1: But I don't think that generally means that they have
Speaker 1: offensive line problems. I agree with you, But going back
Speaker 1: to the point I made yesterday, it was like the
Speaker 1: totality of how bad they were should alarm you. I
Speaker 1: mean it should be concerning at least. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it'll play them again. Yes, it would alarm. But I
Speaker 1: think the main concern with the offensive line has been
Speaker 1: whether Collins would do good at that position and task
Speaker 1: Green and I think they managed well. Yeah, No, Lyle.
Speaker 1: Actually I thought it was pretty good against what's considered
Speaker 1: the best pass rusher in the league. I'm not and
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not overly worried that it's going to be.
Speaker 1: I don't think they have offensive line problems. To go
Speaker 1: back to your point, but again, it's not like they
Speaker 1: ran for seventy yards and three point two yards per carry.
Speaker 1: Like they got owned. They got destroyed. They got owned, absolutely,
Speaker 1: And so that should at least be concerning that fifty
Speaker 1: percent of your sample size for this season was real,
Speaker 1: real bad. Yeah. So, and if we start to see
Speaker 1: that becoming a trend, then I think you got you've
Speaker 1: got some issues. But right now, I'm not ready to
Speaker 1: say that's a trend yet. I'm not willing to say
Speaker 1: that that is a an overall problem for them right now.
Speaker 1: I agree, build the best thing they do. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, to struggle is to one
Speaker 1: is one thing, and to do what they did on
Speaker 1: Sunday is another thing. So I got, I got, so Okay,
Speaker 1: aside from the Giants defense, Broncos D defense, what's the
Speaker 1: other defense that you guys would be concerned that this
Speaker 1: team will be facing. Maybe we we actually yesterday we
Speaker 1: kind of talked about that a little bit, and we
Speaker 1: didn't throw in the team that they're gonna play next week.
Speaker 1: But they have similar components to what we talked about before.
Speaker 1: They don't have them in mass like the like the
Speaker 1: Broncos do. But they've got a dominant cornerback that they
Speaker 1: could presumably put on Dez. They've got a dominant pass
Speaker 1: rusher and KLi Campbell, who I think he had four
Speaker 1: sacks in Week one. Now he's not, he's not you know,
Speaker 1: he's not a Jaguar. I'm sorry, jas, I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: thinking something he was with him last year. Yeah, who's
Speaker 1: their pass rusher? Don't they have a pass rusher? They have?
Speaker 1: They got the kid. They got the kid from um
Speaker 1: it was he was a top three pick though, right
Speaker 1: he was just never turned out to be worth the
Speaker 1: top three. They traded for the kid from New England,
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones. And I want to say, something's up with him.
Speaker 1: I don't. We're not supposed to preview the Cardinals, right,
Speaker 1: We're not. We're not. But I guess I asked that
Speaker 1: question while I was going to a question of So,
Speaker 1: with that being said, who are those defense? It is
Speaker 1: what Arizona qualifies one of those defenses? I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: but they do have at least some components that suggest
Speaker 1: they can give the Cowboys some problems. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have some defensive guys, and you know that
Speaker 1: they've got two playmakers in the secondary in you know,
Speaker 1: Peterson and then the honey Badger who made a game
Speaker 1: winning play last week for them, I believe interception. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I gotta be careful for those two guys. And
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not as familiar with them upfront, but
Speaker 1: I'm sure that they'll be good. And you know, Monday
Speaker 1: night football and playing it, you know up there where
Speaker 1: are out there, crazy things happen. To your point, am,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that there I've been saying
Speaker 1: this over and over and over again. I don't know
Speaker 1: that there are many defenses that can mimic what the
Speaker 1: Broncos were able to do. But there are some good
Speaker 1: defenses left on the schedule Seattle, Kansas City. I don't
Speaker 1: know about their whole defense, but the Rams have Aaron Donald.
Speaker 1: So if your offensive line is a problem, that's that'll
Speaker 1: be an issue for you. So there'll be some challenge.
Speaker 1: There'll be a couple, but I don't think I don't
Speaker 1: think that By and large. You have a lot of
Speaker 1: teams in the NFL, let alone teams on the Cowboys
Speaker 1: schedule that have the defensive the defensive players at the
Speaker 1: positions that can give Cowboys problems. Yeah, Denver, I think
Speaker 1: is a unique beast, and their defense has been good
Speaker 1: to last several years, one of the best in league.
Speaker 1: Throw Denver in there with like the there's like four
Speaker 1: teams in the league that have looked pretty good through
Speaker 1: two weeks, and then the other twenty eight are kind
Speaker 1: of a mixed bag of crap. Three of them in
Speaker 1: the same division. Yes, Oakland, in Kansas City and Denver,
Speaker 1: and we gotta play all three. That's Hey. I don't
Speaker 1: buy into the strength of schedule thing like like, oh,
Speaker 1: we got a tough SCT like the difference, but it's minuscule.
Speaker 1: But AFC West as a hell of a draw. That's
Speaker 1: and I think we've already seen the worst. It can't
Speaker 1: get anywhere. Honestly, I think Kansas City is better. I
Speaker 1: think Kansas City is better than Denver. I don't know
Speaker 1: what you guys think. Yeah, but you're gonna be at home.
Speaker 1: I mean it won't be how about as bad as
Speaker 1: that nuggal go about the black hole at Christmas time,
Speaker 1: guy that was a candidate for NFL MVP and a
Speaker 1: guy who was the NFL Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you start comparing the two, though, you
Speaker 1: compare those two teams, I don't think Oakland's I don't
Speaker 1: David Irving will be back. I don't think I don't
Speaker 1: think Oakland's defense is better than Kansas City's defense, and
Speaker 1: I think Kansas City's offense will be as explosive as Oakland.
Speaker 1: Thanks changed throughout the year, you know, freas and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, especially by the time you get to something,
Speaker 1: it will be two both teams will be very different. Man.
Speaker 1: But did you have an opinion on who you think
Speaker 1: is the team next to the Cowboys that's battling for
Speaker 1: the most battling for the MC's. Well, again, like they've said,
Speaker 1: it's just I mean, for me, it's too early to
Speaker 1: kind of determine that. Again, looking at the Cowboys, I
Speaker 1: thought the Cowboys were gonna come in And I know
Speaker 1: we're talking about other teams inside the Cowboys, but just
Speaker 1: to talk in that regard, the Cowboys, I thought were
Speaker 1: gonna come in this year very strong, and after Week one,
Speaker 1: I thought okay, seeing them manage the New York Giants,
Speaker 1: although they had a lot of things that they needed
Speaker 1: to improve, you know, actually make it being touched on,
Speaker 1: getting you know, points on that scoreboard. But man, after
Speaker 1: week two, everything just kind of changed. You know. The
Speaker 1: best team that I thought was in this division is
Speaker 1: now almost to the bottom of my list right now,
Speaker 1: especially with how their defense is. It's just, I don't know,
Speaker 1: my thoughts have kind of changed all over the place
Speaker 1: with this whole Cowboys don't. I don't know what to
Speaker 1: tell you. Honestly, you sound so disappointed. I am, because
Speaker 1: I thought they were going to win eleven in a row. Again. No,
Speaker 1: definitely not. But I think I think the Cowboys everyone
Speaker 1: came in hoping that the Cowboys were gonna have a
Speaker 1: very good season, right you would say that although it's
Speaker 1: a brand new season. But thinking of the guys that
Speaker 1: got during the draft, all these rookies. We saw how
Speaker 1: the rookies did during training camp. A lot of them
Speaker 1: were out, couldn't get any you know, practice time. Then
Speaker 1: we move in here we see injuries happening again. Orlando's
Speaker 1: Kendrick to me, not the greatest, but he still gets
Speaker 1: the job done. Now we have Nolan Carroll who's out.
Speaker 1: Not the worst than Orlando, but now he's out too.
Speaker 1: So it's very concerning, especially when you see how they perform,
Speaker 1: and again looking at them against the Giants, Oh, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: there's some hope here. You know, they did good Orlando
Speaker 1: was out, they still didn't miss a beat. They were
Speaker 1: able to manage. But then now we see this and
Speaker 1: again going against the Broncos' is totally different. But I
Speaker 1: don't know what they're gonna do. I don't know how
Speaker 1: they're going to resolve this issue, but they need to
Speaker 1: figure it out, and I know how there are some
Speaker 1: guys that are working out. But yeah, you know that.
Speaker 1: And maybe I'm just maybe I'm just the eternal optimists.
Speaker 1: Sunshine pumper. It's not a sunshine pumper. It's it's how
Speaker 1: I live life. But I'm just not I don't think
Speaker 1: this is a huge deal. Yeah, they got the butts whoop,
Speaker 1: it happened. If you go back right now and you
Speaker 1: look at week look at Week two last year, I
Speaker 1: guarantee you the teams that everybody was saying, we're great
Speaker 1: and we're on the up, and they were. They were
Speaker 1: the teams that were gonna be in the mix. I
Speaker 1: bet there are several of those that didn't. They fell off.
Speaker 1: I want to say Minnesota was five and oh at
Speaker 1: some point last year, I don't remember, but and there
Speaker 1: were probably some teams that had lost a game in
Speaker 1: those first two weeks that everybody's kind of like, man,
Speaker 1: what's going on with them? And they ended up being
Speaker 1: in the mix when the whole thing was done. All
Speaker 1: I'm saying is it's week two in the NFL. There
Speaker 1: are gonna be some weeks that you look at where
Speaker 1: you like, man, they just really laid an egg that week.
Speaker 1: It doesn't necessarily mean that they're not the same team
Speaker 1: you thought they were, whether they were good or whether
Speaker 1: they were bad. There are examples of it all throughout
Speaker 1: the league, every single Now it is true, but did
Speaker 1: you analyze each player in each position? Unalyze position? Sorry,
Speaker 1: and you look at the players that you have, do
Speaker 1: they have the right guys to stop all these people?
Speaker 1: I'm talking on the defense side. I'm not worried about
Speaker 1: the offense. I think Dak Prescott last week, everyone we know,
Speaker 1: everyone played bad. The ability that they have, they have
Speaker 1: so many tools. You know, whether it's a running game,
Speaker 1: the passing game. They have so many things that they
Speaker 1: could do, and the Broncos were just able to eliminate
Speaker 1: all aspects for them. But it's a combination. Once the
Speaker 1: offensive line does their job. They helped Dak obviously, and
Speaker 1: so they helped Seek. I'm not worried about the offense,
Speaker 1: but defense, Derek, you should be worried. Honestly, I don't
Speaker 1: know that the defense is worse than it was last years.
Speaker 1: A matter of fact, I think from the past rush standpoint,
Speaker 1: it may be better. What we've seen from DeMarcus Lawn
Speaker 1: so far suggest it may be better. We all believe
Speaker 1: Molle Collins is going to be a player, it may
Speaker 1: be better. We believe Pie is a better player than
Speaker 1: what they had last year. May be better. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: secondary is an issue right now. We'll see what happens
Speaker 1: with Carol. I've never been a fan since he's gotten here.
Speaker 1: I've made it clear I'm not a fan of what
Speaker 1: he brings to the table, and I do think they
Speaker 1: made a mistake by not bringing back one of those
Speaker 1: veteran guys. But we'll see how that plays all out. Um.
Speaker 1: I will say again, I think though, when you look
Speaker 1: at the defense. I don't know that it's worse than
Speaker 1: what you had last year. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Baron Jones and Jeff Heath I had my hopes for them,
Speaker 1: and this I mean right now, I haven't seen them
Speaker 1: play up to their potential. I haven't seen much from them.
Speaker 1: And when you talk about veteran gay guys in the secondary,
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not doing much really if you analyze
Speaker 1: them aside from those guys what nick Oh, I mean,
Speaker 1: they're not You're right, and the safeties aren't doing anything. Um,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen. We haven't seen guys that we were
Speaker 1: kind of hoping for. We haven't really seen a lot
Speaker 1: out of uh, you know, I guess unless you're gonna
Speaker 1: say to Marcus Lawrence and he looks like he's ready to,
Speaker 1: you know, turn the corner and he already has I
Speaker 1: mean two sacks and in two games each, So what
Speaker 1: if that's yeah, I understand what that too into a sport.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I don't know. I was trying to
Speaker 1: say elementary school. I think that's four times as many
Speaker 1: as he had last year. He had one right one,
Speaker 1: So he's a third of the way to his career
Speaker 1: total three games. I mean, you're right, Derek about last year,
Speaker 1: this team went thirteen and three. In twenty fourteen they
Speaker 1: went twelve and four. Both of those teams were one
Speaker 1: and one, so that's what they are right now. It
Speaker 1: could go either way. But you know in twenty fifteen
Speaker 1: there were two and oh and they went four and twelve.
Speaker 1: So it's early. It's early. I think I'm a little
Speaker 1: bit too early than what you know. Amber's ready for.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's got the panic button like down, No,
Speaker 1: she's like laying on it. Yeah. No, I think they'll
Speaker 1: come back. I just think if they don't do something
Speaker 1: with this defense right now, you know, there needs to
Speaker 1: be some improvement. If not, it's not going anywhere. I
Speaker 1: think we all agree with Secondary is gonna have to
Speaker 1: play better, and I don't know how they're gonna get
Speaker 1: him there. They got to get these guys coached up
Speaker 1: quickly because they're young, they're they're just learning this NFL
Speaker 1: game and they missed a lot of training camps, so
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to do something. I don't think they
Speaker 1: have a lot of other options because it's not like
Speaker 1: you're just gonna grab somebodies from the street. I think
Speaker 1: that the secondary was worse than the front seven yesterday
Speaker 1: or Sunday. Does that mean I don't think they were
Speaker 1: stopping anybody in the running game. Yeah, I kind of
Speaker 1: think that was the issue. You put that on the
Speaker 1: linebackers though, more than the front flour just everybody, all
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, I don't know why. I don't know why. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was about say, I don't know why were splitting
Speaker 1: hairs and picking between units, like your best player, Dan
Speaker 1: Bailey as well. Yeah, as Nick said, like Dan Bailey's
Speaker 1: probably the only guy that got on the bus, you know, Like,
Speaker 1: and he was too. We got on that bus and
Speaker 1: he was just like, that's the best y'all got. I
Speaker 1: can't believe he was acting like that. All right, let's
Speaker 1: take our first break. When we come back, I want
Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about Ezekiel Elliott. Coach Garrett
Speaker 1: had a little say about him yesterday and some of
Speaker 1: the things that are swirling around about him and how
Speaker 1: he played on Sunday. We'll do it when we come
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Speaker 1: second to second segment of the break lacking SWBC Mortgage
Speaker 1: studios at the Star. I want to talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about Ezekiel Elliott this last game. After the game
Speaker 1: was over, we started hearing different people around the media
Speaker 1: being very critical of his not necessarily his performance overall.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are saying talking about
Speaker 1: the offensive line from the standpoint the performance, but particularly
Speaker 1: about a couple of plays where he didn't show the
Speaker 1: kind of effort that you would expect from an NFL player.
Speaker 1: I guess this is the best way to say it.
Speaker 1: D I think Ken has that audio force. Ken, can
Speaker 1: you play an audio of what coach Garrett had to
Speaker 1: say yesterday about Ezekiel Eli Well, he had the two
Speaker 1: plays that were not good plays, the two interceptions. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the things that we preached to
Speaker 1: our team on both sides of the ball, when there's
Speaker 1: a turnover, everybody's involved for an offensive player to become
Speaker 1: a defensive player on a fumble or an interception. And
Speaker 1: you know, Zeke is one of the most natural competitors
Speaker 1: I've ever been around. He loves to play, he loves
Speaker 1: to practice. I think we've seen that through his first
Speaker 1: year playing. And those two players were not indicative of
Speaker 1: the kind of competitor that he was, and we have
Speaker 1: to get that addressed. So my question for you guys
Speaker 1: is is this a big deal? You think this is
Speaker 1: a big deal? Is this much to do about nothing?
Speaker 1: I want to I want to share a personal anecdote
Speaker 1: that shed some light on this. It comes from the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter of this game. I was standing with you
Speaker 1: on the sideline. We were about eight feet away from
Speaker 1: a keept league when he picked six Dak, and Dak
Speaker 1: was doing his thing, and good for him, great effort
Speaker 1: and all that. He's chasing the play down trying to
Speaker 1: do that, and Derek's standing right next to me going,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Get away? From there. Don't you
Speaker 1: don't need to make this tackle. This is talking about
Speaker 1: that Dak He's get out of there. Stop And I
Speaker 1: agreed with you. I was like, it's like, I know,
Speaker 1: like that's what you want your quarterback to do, but
Speaker 1: let's not get hurt on the last meetingless play of
Speaker 1: this game. And that kind of I mean, that kind
Speaker 1: of sums it up for me. But is it different,
Speaker 1: because I know for me it is different for you.
Speaker 1: Is it different for the quarterback versus all the other players?
Speaker 1: I know that sounds bad, but the quarterback trying to
Speaker 1: replace the quarterback is a lot harder than every other player.
Speaker 1: And I just think I think of my quarterback differently.
Speaker 1: If you're down there trying to make that tackle and
Speaker 1: there guys blocking, just get out of the way. The
Speaker 1: game was tied. If the game was tied, it's a
Speaker 1: different story. Well then it's a different story then, because
Speaker 1: every player that you're talking about a play in the
Speaker 1: middle of the field Zeke, like middle midway through the game.
Speaker 1: I mean, you only said that because the game was
Speaker 1: over and you don't need him get hurt with fifty
Speaker 1: seconds to go. But the Zeke play, and that's different
Speaker 1: you need to go make a play. If you're gonna
Speaker 1: do all this stuff like let's eat, let's eat, then
Speaker 1: go eat, eat all the time, be hungry every time.
Speaker 1: I think it is an issue because because he showed
Speaker 1: his disinterest when he doesn't want when things aren't going well.
Speaker 1: So the line wasn't there, the blocking wasn't there. But
Speaker 1: there's more you could do. You don't just stop. The
Speaker 1: play's over and you put your hands on your hips
Speaker 1: and then you go to the sideline and you don't
Speaker 1: talk to anyone. To me, it was a too cool
Speaker 1: for school attitude that I mean. I don't think it
Speaker 1: will be a huge issue, because I think it'll be
Speaker 1: addressed in a lot more stern tone than that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it'll be addressed. I hear you. I do,
Speaker 1: and I'm not. I don't want to completely absolve him
Speaker 1: and say, hey, that's fine, but I don't think this
Speaker 1: should be a storyline that lasts longer than about today.
Speaker 1: I agree, and I perfect agree. It'll get taken care of,
Speaker 1: I think. And I'm about to make excuses for them
Speaker 1: and say they're not excuses. But I was thinking about
Speaker 1: it last night. I was talking about it with somebody,
Speaker 1: you go back. I mean, we've it's well documented that
Speaker 1: this guy has been a beast at every step of
Speaker 1: the way. I don't know the stats, but you remember
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, his last year at Ohio State, he
Speaker 1: made national news for yet like basically calling out his
Speaker 1: coaches for not giving him the ball they lost to
Speaker 1: Michigan State. I guarantee you he had better stats in
Speaker 1: that game than he did on Sunday, and that was
Speaker 1: probably the low light of his career to this point. Well,
Speaker 1: he said in the press conversence, and when we're talking
Speaker 1: him in the locker room afterwards, he said, and somebody asked,
Speaker 1: have you ever had a game worse in this and
Speaker 1: he was like, no, this worst game out. So you're
Speaker 1: literally witnessing the worst moment of his career. He's he's immature,
Speaker 1: and we know that. We've that's been the storyline surrounding
Speaker 1: the Cowboys since he was drafted basically, but even more
Speaker 1: so in the last eight weeks for obvious reasons. He's
Speaker 1: an immature guy. You hope that he's working on it,
Speaker 1: but it's fair to call him that based on everything
Speaker 1: that we know. So no, I don't think it's it's
Speaker 1: the right play, but in a seventeen twenty five point
Speaker 1: game in the third quarter, he's obviously very frustrated about
Speaker 1: the way it's going. I don't, yeah, But going back
Speaker 1: to Dak's play at the end, obviously we all knew
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna get there on time, he wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: make that tackle, but he still tried. And although it
Speaker 1: was a complete meaningless run for him to even go
Speaker 1: and try to do that, and he is the quarterback,
Speaker 1: he needs to be careful even then, it's still I
Speaker 1: mean to me, that meant a lot for him to
Speaker 1: even go and try to do that. I think these
Speaker 1: players see everything, as you know, in the moment, this
Speaker 1: is the game, this is the time. You don't you're
Speaker 1: not really thinking, You're just trying to act on you know,
Speaker 1: make whatever play you need to make. And he did that.
Speaker 1: He well, he tried to. But it shows a lot
Speaker 1: for He's a football player, and football players in the
Speaker 1: mentality of the moment, says, the ball's going the other way,
Speaker 1: I need to make a tackle. Right in all, I'm
Speaker 1: a quarterback and to get back. In all aspects of everything,
Speaker 1: Dak is what the Cowboys want Zeeke to be, but
Speaker 1: to this point, he's not. They're different people. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's something to work on and it'll be a teaching point.
Speaker 1: I'm yeah. I mean Garrett said as much. He's going
Speaker 1: to talk to Zeke about this. I would be fairly
Speaker 1: surprised if we saw him do it again, at least
Speaker 1: anytime soon. This is not an excuse for Zeke. But
Speaker 1: but I will say this. You know, to every other
Speaker 1: player on the team, this is their second game, this
Speaker 1: is their second game, this is their second fight. Zeke's
Speaker 1: been fighting for a while. He he has I mean this,
Speaker 1: this is this. To say that this isn't weighing on
Speaker 1: him would be ridiculous. This whole yeah, and it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, everyone else is here and he's in Sherman, Texas,
Speaker 1: He's in a suit and tie, and this whole thing
Speaker 1: has been weighing on him and and I it's affected
Speaker 1: his demeanor. There's no doubt about it. And I'm not again,
Speaker 1: I'm not dissolving of this. I mean that should be
Speaker 1: your sanctuary to go out there and play. Everything's you know,
Speaker 1: off the table, just go play football. And you know
Speaker 1: the frustration is mounting. But I'll say this though he's
Speaker 1: got to be tired physically, tired for us mentally and yeah,
Speaker 1: mentally for sure, but that affects you physically, and I think,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that that is probably weighing on him.
Speaker 1: He's got to be able to correct that. So I
Speaker 1: don't agree that. I mean, I don't think this is
Speaker 1: going to be a big deal, but I think it
Speaker 1: it was. It could be something that needs to be
Speaker 1: nipped into. But if he's as much of a competitor
Speaker 1: as Jason Garrett said, then he needs to show that more.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what Garrett was saying. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think anyone's concerned moving forward. Yeah, that's I guess.
Speaker 1: I agree, But I just don't think it's like this
Speaker 1: huge deal. It doesn't need to be a first take
Speaker 1: segment for many more days. It was. It's funny because Garrett,
Speaker 1: for everything that he answered about about Zeke, he said
Speaker 1: everything the other way about Dak. Yeah, and that's interesting. Actually,
Speaker 1: let's hear that audio of what Garrett had to say
Speaker 1: about Dak Prescott in this last game. Well, if you
Speaker 1: get a chance to go back and watch the tape
Speaker 1: at number four numberfore as a special player was not
Speaker 1: an easy game for him. I got knocked around a
Speaker 1: little bit, got banged up early, and talk about a
Speaker 1: guy who battles, talk about a guy who fights, talk
Speaker 1: about a guy who leads the team under adversity, under duress.
Speaker 1: It was special. And you know, I reflect back on
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks I've been around, and oftentimes the games
Speaker 1: that I remember most are the ones that the situations
Speaker 1: were the most challenging. And you see how they respond,
Speaker 1: how they respond to a turnover, how they respond to
Speaker 1: guys hitting him in the face over and over and
Speaker 1: over again. You've heard me say this before. My old
Speaker 1: man says, you know, you can hit him in the
Speaker 1: face with a shovel and he keeps coming back. And
Speaker 1: that's what Dak Prescott again demonstrated yesterday. So I have
Speaker 1: no real concern about him responding the right way. Certainly,
Speaker 1: Zeke had a couple of those plays that we talked
Speaker 1: about already. We have to address those with him. But again,
Speaker 1: he's a natural competitor, he loves to play, he plays
Speaker 1: the game the right way. We'll get him right going forward.
Speaker 1: All right, that's Coach Garrett talking about Dak Prescott, and actually, Nick,
Speaker 1: you made a simil a similar argument yesterday talking about
Speaker 1: how how impressed you were with Dak and not necessarily
Speaker 1: results of his play, right, but just how he went
Speaker 1: about it yet in a game that was full of
Speaker 1: adversity and things not going his way. You know, I
Speaker 1: always take that line Bill Parcells used to say about it.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't really know about a player until
Speaker 1: they get beat thirty five to seven, and everyone's kind
Speaker 1: of looking sideways at the quarterback and is you know, wait,
Speaker 1: every play he's getting up looking out of the ear
Speaker 1: hole because he's just been hit every time, and we'll
Speaker 1: find out then how how he comes back. And so
Speaker 1: I thought that that was kind of indicative of that
Speaker 1: just just showed it reminded me of a Brett Farve
Speaker 1: type of thing of like you're a football player playing quarterback.
Speaker 1: There's a difference between a quarterback and then football players
Speaker 1: that play it. I think Walter Payton was the best
Speaker 1: football player to ever play running back. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he's the best running back, but I think he was
Speaker 1: the best football player to ever play running back. And
Speaker 1: I think Dak is playing it like that, you know,
Speaker 1: never give up that that that type of stuff. And
Speaker 1: then actually after the press conference when Garrett kind of
Speaker 1: talks to us a little bit, and most of it's
Speaker 1: off the record, but one story he shared was Troy
Speaker 1: Aikman and his favorite Aikman moment. It's the same favorite
Speaker 1: moment for him at Smith the ninety four championship game
Speaker 1: against the Niners when they lost and they had a
Speaker 1: chance for a three peat. But it was that game.
Speaker 1: But he said, agmam was just standing in there taking
Speaker 1: shot after shot after shot, and that's what he was
Speaker 1: talking about. Dak just standing in the pocket, hit a
Speaker 1: couple of throws like that we talked about, you know,
Speaker 1: we're just standing right there and knowing that he's gonna
Speaker 1: get hit. So he showed some toughness in that game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of things about that you like,
Speaker 1: not only the things he did during the game, think
Speaker 1: after the game. You liked the way that he approached
Speaker 1: handling the media from the standpoint of yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: have the greatest game, and I gotta be better. I
Speaker 1: gotta do more for my team. Now, I think the
Speaker 1: most important thing is what does he do in response
Speaker 1: to that in the next game, Because you can let
Speaker 1: those kinds of games snowball to where you get beat
Speaker 1: twice off of a really bad game, and so can
Speaker 1: he somehow play better, and not only that, but bring
Speaker 1: his teammates along with him to play better, to get
Speaker 1: out of that funk, to get themselves back on the
Speaker 1: right track going into or out of Week three and
Speaker 1: into week four in the rest of the season. I
Speaker 1: hope it was hot in the press conference room. He
Speaker 1: was sweaty, because he was sweating more than he ever has.
Speaker 1: And I wonder if you know it, it it was one
Speaker 1: of those situations where you're just kind of feeling the
Speaker 1: pressure a little bit. I didn't notice it to be
Speaker 1: too hot, but maybe it was. I wasn't in there.
Speaker 1: Maybe the altitude, maybe no. But he handled it like
Speaker 1: like he played the worst game of his life and
Speaker 1: he was the one that messed it up. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's what a quarterback it's really supposed to do, which
Speaker 1: was a common thing thing in that locker room. I
Speaker 1: know you guys were in there, and I think, almost
Speaker 1: to a man that I heard talk, they all said, Hey,
Speaker 1: I didn't play my best game. I didn't play up
Speaker 1: to standards. We didn't play up to standards. I think
Speaker 1: everybody kind of had that same thought that same mentality.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it couldn't be a humbling experience.
Speaker 1: Even Garrett yesterday I thought was a lot were forthcoming
Speaker 1: and offered better explanations than typical, you know, like he's
Speaker 1: big on coach speak and not giving away too much,
Speaker 1: and he was still himself, but he I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: he was very forthcoming about the Zeke stuff. He was
Speaker 1: very forthcoming about praising Dak and talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: the way that Denver defense played them and how that's
Speaker 1: difficult to deal with when you do it the right way.
Speaker 1: And I just I thought it was more than we
Speaker 1: typically get from him, and I was wondering if maybe
Speaker 1: that was because after a performance like that, you kind
Speaker 1: of don't have a choice but to swallow your pride
Speaker 1: and go with the flow. Basically, you know what they
Speaker 1: say the whole time in training camp that you know,
Speaker 1: we start at the bottom, you don't build off of
Speaker 1: last year. You're starting, And I think it's easy to
Speaker 1: say that. It's harder for players to really believe that
Speaker 1: until you get hit in the mouth like this and
Speaker 1: then you realize, oh, this is different now, and hopefully,
Speaker 1: hopefully for Cowboys and Cowboys fans, this is the kind
Speaker 1: of game that kind of waked him up to the
Speaker 1: reality of every single week, this is a new opponent,
Speaker 1: and that new opponent can really just destroy you if
Speaker 1: you don't play your best game, and especially when you're
Speaker 1: playing really good team. So maybe maybe it has that
Speaker 1: kind of effect. That is the toughest place to play
Speaker 1: in the NFL, absolutely, because what is it nineteen and
Speaker 1: one in the last twenty games. I want to say, well,
Speaker 1: they that host to last year, but I mean it's no,
Speaker 1: it's not a lot. They don't. They don't lose often,
Speaker 1: they don't lose often. I mean there's a lot of factors.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's loud. Well, first of all, the
Speaker 1: team is good, really good. It's it's a loud stadium.
Speaker 1: They and you look around. They do not give their
Speaker 1: tickets away. It's orange. I mean, Dick Haboys hadn't played
Speaker 1: their nine year eight years. Usually when that happens, you start. No,
Speaker 1: we didn't even talk about the fact that the press
Speaker 1: box shook on every second and third down from the
Speaker 1: moment the game was about to start. I told I
Speaker 1: remember telling Nick, I was like, this is gonna get
Speaker 1: on my nerves. Like the whole thing is just shaking.
Speaker 1: Everybody's beating like you can just you hear the audible
Speaker 1: sound of people stopping their feet and beating on stuff.
Speaker 1: And that starts when the game begins. It stops at halftime.
Speaker 1: It did stop during the rain delay that luckily, and
Speaker 1: then it starts. The game starts back up. You usually
Speaker 1: see a crowd like a crowd is usually thinner after
Speaker 1: a raindelay, not that. They were just waiting right under
Speaker 1: the under overhang and they ran right back out and
Speaker 1: their seats are all blue and even that, even then,
Speaker 1: all you can see was orange. Yeah, I didn't think
Speaker 1: about that. Yes, you know. So at some point Garrett's
Speaker 1: going to have to address this situation of I mean,
Speaker 1: he said it two years ago, we like to take
Speaker 1: the ball and start the second half, because he had
Speaker 1: this whole theory about how fans don't come back into
Speaker 1: their seat at halftime and it's not as loud, but
Speaker 1: before the game they're all jacked up and all that.
Speaker 1: So I don't understand why he continues to take the
Speaker 1: football and when he when he wins the toss, that
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense to me. The Broncos start out,
Speaker 1: you kick it off to the twenty five yard line.
Speaker 1: You can't hear you go three and out and you punt, Like,
Speaker 1: why why don't you play defense first? I think I
Speaker 1: kind of understand his philosophy. I'd love last game, and
Speaker 1: I think I think it's more about, you know, with him,
Speaker 1: everything is a t shirt of mentality or whatever. I
Speaker 1: think what he's trying to say to his team is,
Speaker 1: we take the ball all the time. Our offense is
Speaker 1: that good. We're not going to be afraid because we're
Speaker 1: on the road against a good defense to take the ball.
Speaker 1: Give us the ball. I think it was a mentality thing.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's about strategy for him. I think
Speaker 1: it's more about we do this all the time because
Speaker 1: we believe that we're going to get out to a
Speaker 1: fast start. And getting out to a fast start means
Speaker 1: putting our all and put it on your defense. I
Speaker 1: think I think that is strategy though, because where we
Speaker 1: talk about this team plays best with a lead. You
Speaker 1: want to run the ball, you want to control the clock,
Speaker 1: you want to be in front so that their offense
Speaker 1: has to throw the ball, and that if you do
Speaker 1: it right, that starts with points on the first possession. Obviously,
Speaker 1: it's a big gamble, and usually I do get points
Speaker 1: on the first which I and you know, it's funny
Speaker 1: because we just mentioned that it worked very well for
Speaker 1: them last year year, right, that doesn't mean it will
Speaker 1: work well for them this year. So it'll be interesting
Speaker 1: to see how that plays because I think they got points.
Speaker 1: They did this all last year and they got points
Speaker 1: six out of the seven first games. Well now they're
Speaker 1: one and one, so I wonder if that affects their
Speaker 1: thought process going forward. What we know about Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: is he is a He is really a creature of habit.
Speaker 1: I have a hard time thinking he's going to change
Speaker 1: it up. That seems to be what he's done. Since
Speaker 1: he's got it, I would hesitate to just call it
Speaker 1: like a Jason Garrett thing. Though, Amber and I had
Speaker 1: a conversation with mister Prescott on Oh Yeah Friday. He
Speaker 1: loves it. He's like, yeah, we're good. We're good at
Speaker 1: the start of the game. That's why we take the ball.
Speaker 1: That's a matter of fact part of the game. Whenever
Speaker 1: Derek decides we'll play this audio, hopefully sometime this week.
Speaker 1: Let's because people were very passionate about this subject through
Speaker 1: you know, people on Twitter. So you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: motivating me to go ahead and go ask the man
Speaker 1: himself and hopefully you guys will get to listen to
Speaker 1: that audio. For people that don't know we're talking about
Speaker 1: last week, it was a very interesting conversation. I think
Speaker 1: it happened on Thursday, was that right, Wendsay or Thursday,
Speaker 1: one of the two. Anyway, there's a conversation that happened
Speaker 1: on the air, and Amber was making the argument that
Speaker 1: Dak specifically has that is starting and I want to
Speaker 1: make sure I get this right. That is that he
Speaker 1: doesn't he has a better He's better in the second
Speaker 1: half than he is in the first half. Um and
Speaker 1: Nick and Dave argued that point on the other side
Speaker 1: that they think it's pretty consistent. He's pretty much the
Speaker 1: same guy first half, second half. I think you've already
Speaker 1: butchered it. Yeah, sorry, it's it's that's not how it started.
Speaker 1: It started, let's say. Anyway, the point was, the point
Speaker 1: was you asked Dak about it to get Dak's word
Speaker 1: on it, and we did get audio from that. We're
Speaker 1: gonna play that sometime later this week, probably we might
Speaker 1: do it tomorrow. We'll play that later this week, just
Speaker 1: so people can hear and then hopefully put this whole
Speaker 1: thing to bed, because I'm oh, we don't, we don't
Speaker 1: need to this cast it again. I just went ahead.
Speaker 1: You can listen to the audio. And she just wants
Speaker 1: to know that the quarterback series right. She wants to
Speaker 1: say I was right. Okay, So we're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 1: take our final break. We're gonna come back. I do
Speaker 1: need to talk about something a little more administrative. We
Speaker 1: need to talk about dem Entre Morris. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: back on this team. I would assume as of today
Speaker 1: he's gonna finish the suspension. Question is who's going Cowboys
Speaker 1: are gonna have to make some kind of transaction in
Speaker 1: order to make room for him. I'll ask that question
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Speaker 1: It's the final segment of The Great Black from the
Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage Studios. Let's talk a little bit about Demontrey Moore.
Speaker 1: He's been on suspension for the first two games of
Speaker 1: the season. He should be I guess activated today. A
Speaker 1: Cowboys will have to make a move. I think is
Speaker 1: it true that they have a twenty four hour period
Speaker 1: in order to make that move or do they have
Speaker 1: to immediately cut somebody whenever he is well. He's been
Speaker 1: back in the building, right back on the team today.
Speaker 1: They have until three today, three today to make the move.
Speaker 1: So they will have to make a transaction of some
Speaker 1: sort um, either cutting a player or maybe moving a
Speaker 1: player to IR in order to get him onto the
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster. So I'll ask you guys the question,
Speaker 1: who do you think is going to be the odd
Speaker 1: man out? About three o'clock today. I don't get the
Speaker 1: impression that Nolan Carroll's concussion is like an ir type
Speaker 1: of deal. I could be wrong. So if there's an
Speaker 1: injury thing, that's totally different. But if you're just if
Speaker 1: you have to release a healthy player, I think I
Speaker 1: would go with jay Ron Elliott. And that's just me speculating.
Speaker 1: I don't know anything, but I'm just trying to put
Speaker 1: the pieces together. I don't think how did they get
Speaker 1: him trade? They claimf waivers, but they claimed Brian Price
Speaker 1: off waivers. They traded for jail And isn't it the
Speaker 1: same thing? Like their compensation is tied to how much
Speaker 1: he's exact, they're not using him at all. He did
Speaker 1: not participate in the Giants game at all. He was
Speaker 1: inactive on Sunday, So clearly he was inactive on Sunday
Speaker 1: despite you know, you're already sort of thin at linebacker
Speaker 1: as it is with Anthony Hitchins injured, so clearly they
Speaker 1: feel like they can get through a game without him.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say Demontre Moore can play linebacker,
Speaker 1: but he does do some stand up stuff as a
Speaker 1: pass rusher, especially in that nickel and dime sub packages.
Speaker 1: And j Elliott is a kind of an outside linebacker
Speaker 1: pass rusher, right, So it's kind of that similar. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So if you're not using him and you get your
Speaker 1: draft pick back, if you cut him and they sort
Speaker 1: of fill a similar role, I think it makes sense.
Speaker 1: And you know he wasn't active, but Tapper would probably
Speaker 1: be inactive anyways, You're just gonna make Tapper in active.
Speaker 1: You don't want to cut Tapper, but obviously what you
Speaker 1: want to and Demontre Moore should be in um I
Speaker 1: would you know what, I would think that way, But
Speaker 1: would you make Tapper inactive or Taco because there's no
Speaker 1: way they make Taco inactive. Huh. I mean it looks bad, Yes,
Speaker 1: it looks bad. That's about this. The optics that Charles
Speaker 1: Tapper is one of two players on this team with
Speaker 1: a sack, right, Yeah, So I'm just saying, and I've
Speaker 1: been critical of Charles Tapper, but he has played well
Speaker 1: enough that I don't know that I'm sitting him down.
Speaker 1: And I am the president of the Taco Charloton Fan
Speaker 1: Club going back to draft time. But if you gotta
Speaker 1: sit him, you gotta sit him. I mean, he's not
Speaker 1: starting anyway, so he's already he's already not meeting people's
Speaker 1: the hype of the expectations or whatever. So if you
Speaker 1: gotta sit him for Demontre Moore, I mean whatever. I think, though,
Speaker 1: when you when you're talking about what they're asking these
Speaker 1: guys to do, I think, Taco, Um, I've only really
Speaker 1: seen Tapper on third downs or at least pass rushing
Speaker 1: situa us and I know that they asked Oacho to
Speaker 1: do a little bit more than that, so I wouldn't imagine.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm you're right. I think it would be between
Speaker 1: those two though. Yeah, with Monty can slide tackle in
Speaker 1: to play defensive tackles right right, it can, but they haven't.
Speaker 1: They really haven't. Don't like and he can play left
Speaker 1: end too, but he's really only played right and I
Speaker 1: take issue with that. But he's the first round pick,
Speaker 1: so they want him to play the sexy position. I
Speaker 1: guess I don't know. Yeah, you guys agreed, Jay Jay,
Speaker 1: but that seems logical. I mean I could see a
Speaker 1: cornerback though getting in the mix here really like who well,
Speaker 1: I mean it would have to be. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you've got a good maybe cheeto on ir you mentioned
Speaker 1: that yesterday. You really think that's an option? If it's
Speaker 1: the same is it the same hamstring? It's the same hamstring.
Speaker 1: Although Stephen Jones said yesterday they he went through an MRI,
Speaker 1: they didn't see anything super troubling. It's it sounds like
Speaker 1: they hope he can practice this week. So I don't
Speaker 1: get an I all right, And it's the same thing
Speaker 1: as what you were saying too about um, I'm drown
Speaker 1: a blank on the tight end. Rico gathers. The reason
Speaker 1: why you would do the I R for only the
Speaker 1: set the eight weeks is because you need he needs
Speaker 1: to practice. I think with a rookie like Tito, he
Speaker 1: needs to practice as well. So you wouldn't want him
Speaker 1: on R four and extended periods. Andy, you'd be done
Speaker 1: with your if you're gonna bring him back, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna do another guy, I are you're gonna bring him back,
Speaker 1: then you'd don't be out of guys. Don't have too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't have too. Yeah, they don't have to bring
Speaker 1: Rico back. But what were you gonna say now, I was.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say to that point, I think
Speaker 1: that would be a good move if they weren't last
Speaker 1: week in the position, you know, yeah, if they weren't
Speaker 1: having all these troubles with I mean, to have him
Speaker 1: out for like eight weeks, I don't think it would
Speaker 1: be good. And the reason why is it gives you
Speaker 1: a spot. It opens a spot to get another guy.
Speaker 1: That's kind of why. Yeah, but the guy, the guy
Speaker 1: you're gonna bring in doesn't have a job, so he's
Speaker 1: not any good either. The same reason when they could
Speaker 1: release Ben abin Wickery too. But I don't think that's
Speaker 1: a good idea with what they're dealing with in the
Speaker 1: secondary right now. Yeah, I'd be interested to see if
Speaker 1: they would make that. Has anybody asked him, you guys
Speaker 1: may know it. Has anybody asked the coaches why they
Speaker 1: made the decision to have him in active last week
Speaker 1: knowing they only had four active. I mean he said
Speaker 1: it after the game. He said, because of Noah Brown.
Speaker 1: Because they wanted they didn't know about Terrence and they
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that they had the receivers there.
Speaker 1: I mean, again, it doesn't make sense to me, But
Speaker 1: I mean five and five would seem right, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: at four and six, yes, and they got bit. I
Speaker 1: mean maybe they're winning to this week thinking feeling pretty
Speaker 1: confident after the Giants game with yeah, guys they had
Speaker 1: playing out there. But see the way I look at
Speaker 1: it is with Scandrick being hurt, wouldn't you want to
Speaker 1: kind of hey, what do we know about? What do
Speaker 1: we know about Cheeto? Lease, Let's let this guy maybe
Speaker 1: play if he gets down to it. And then of
Speaker 1: course Nolan Carroll goes out and has a bad game
Speaker 1: before Yeah, yeah, I mean he unfortunately, I mean he
Speaker 1: played better than the last three quarters than he did
Speaker 1: the first time. Like Carol well Um saying, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: agree with either of these, but I mean, as long
Speaker 1: as we're covering our bases, Rod Smith and and Noah
Speaker 1: Brown are guys that I mean, when you look at
Speaker 1: what role they feel, it's small enough that if you
Speaker 1: absolutely had to have a spot. And Demontreamore plays special
Speaker 1: teams too, so h those are guys they could release.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect it. I would be kind of surprised
Speaker 1: and I would disagree with it if that's what they did.
Speaker 1: But I disagreed with Darius Jackson last year. You know,
Speaker 1: I mean, if they got a good handle on the
Speaker 1: zeke thing, you could always cut one of the running backs,
Speaker 1: one of the veteran running backs. Yeah, cut McFadden. I
Speaker 1: don't think they'd have a handle on it though. No.
Speaker 1: So all right, let's let's get some phone calls. You
Speaker 1: guys call us at two one, four eight seven two
Speaker 1: twenty one h two. You can also hit us on
Speaker 1: Twitter at Cowboys Break will start with a call from
Speaker 1: Rob in Vegas. Rob, What up? Hey, everybody? How are you?
Speaker 1: I mean, if you would tell me that after two
Speaker 1: weeks we'd have a division win against the team we
Speaker 1: couldn't beat last year and a road loss against Denver
Speaker 1: and be like, Okay, I take that. But there's three
Speaker 1: guys that I'm a little concerned about. One is Byron Jones.
Speaker 1: I'm starting to think he was just a combined superstar
Speaker 1: because I don't I just don't see it. I hear
Speaker 1: it in practice and I hear it in training camps.
Speaker 1: He just doesn't make enough plays at the safety position.
Speaker 1: Another guy is crossed. How many years have we talked that? Now?
Speaker 1: This guy, you know, he's healthy he's that was just
Speaker 1: a mistake paying him and another guy that I'm concerned
Speaker 1: about a Scott Linahan, because I'm wondering if he's in
Speaker 1: his mind he's saying I'm going to prove that Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott's the guy and he's not gonna have a sophomore slump.
Speaker 1: And I started to see it in the playoff game
Speaker 1: against Green Bay. Zeke Elliott is ab player on offense
Speaker 1: and that's your best option. And I didn't think they
Speaker 1: leaned on him enough in that game. Even the Giant game,
Speaker 1: he first been goal from the three. You didn't even
Speaker 1: give him one touch, and I'm sorry, Zeke should have
Speaker 1: been frustrated eight touches. I know he wasn't getting anything,
Speaker 1: but he's the only guy on your offense that could
Speaker 1: score from anywhere on the field. You still have to
Speaker 1: run the ball, especially when you know your defense is
Speaker 1: not playing good. You got to eat up some clock
Speaker 1: and hope to get the game going. I'm a little
Speaker 1: concerned about him. I don't see him using Dez. You
Speaker 1: got to stop acting like Dez runs a four three
Speaker 1: forty and running him down the sideline. You guys know
Speaker 1: Dez's best players are always short pros where he makes
Speaker 1: a guy miss and he runs after the catch, more
Speaker 1: bubble screens put him in the flot stop treating you
Speaker 1: know these jump balls, these fifty fifty balls, And that's
Speaker 1: what you guys were talking about. You look at Deck's
Speaker 1: percentage to all the other wide receivers, it's high and again,
Speaker 1: and when he throws the Dez it's low, and all
Speaker 1: the interceptions. What throws to Dez? So lenihan um, I
Speaker 1: need him to change his philosophy a little bit. And
Speaker 1: and the other two guys, I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: we're going to be looking for a safety come next year.
Speaker 1: All right, thanks for the call. What do you guys
Speaker 1: think about Byron Jones? You know, I don't have like
Speaker 1: much of a problem with anything that guy just said.
Speaker 1: I mean, you could quibble over like the semantics of it,
Speaker 1: but like the overall theme of that call pretty much
Speaker 1: agree with. I'm not that far out on Byron yet,
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I don't think anybody was good
Speaker 1: in that game. They got their butts kick. But he
Speaker 1: made a nice play in pass coverage. I did see.
Speaker 1: Did y'all see that thing going around Twitter? It's like
Speaker 1: a it's a replay where it's a pulling play and
Speaker 1: CJ it was CJ Anderson's touchdown. Do you see Byron
Speaker 1: on where it looked like he had a clear path
Speaker 1: to the ball carrier and kind of chose to pick
Speaker 1: up a block instead. I mean, I hate to, you know,
Speaker 1: I hate to sign that without knowing for sure, but
Speaker 1: that's certainly what it looked like on tape. So not
Speaker 1: a great day by anybody in the defense. I think
Speaker 1: everybody knows that. But was it I can't point to
Speaker 1: him being terrible, I guess, is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: It was just a collective letdown across all fronts. So
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to single him out as like the
Speaker 1: reason why the defense sucks. Let me make a bigger
Speaker 1: question out of that, though, Do you think that has
Speaker 1: he lived up to what you expected as a first
Speaker 1: round pick when the Cowboys made that pick. These years
Speaker 1: that have passed, has he lived up to what you
Speaker 1: expected of him to this point? You know what's funny
Speaker 1: is when he was a rookie and they were they
Speaker 1: didn't have a spot for him in the starting lineup,
Speaker 1: and he was like the handyman who handled the tight
Speaker 1: end and played dime. I thought he was better than
Speaker 1: I expected him to be as a rookie. In the
Speaker 1: time since when they've tried to plug him into a
Speaker 1: full time role, he hasn't been as good grading on
Speaker 1: the curve right, which which But that happens. I mean
Speaker 1: that's what you do. Your expectations do go up. I mean, rookie,
Speaker 1: you have rookie expectations, just like the same with Dak.
Speaker 1: I mean Dak's expectations last year as a rookie. Now
Speaker 1: he's a superstar, so he's gonna get he's gonna get
Speaker 1: evaluated differently. I mean as far as Byron Jones, I
Speaker 1: he hasn't He's not there yet and I'm not even
Speaker 1: sure what his best position is, but I guess it's
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought it was safety. I was saying
Speaker 1: safety from his rookie year, But I don't know. There's
Speaker 1: issues that I think that are there that I'd rather
Speaker 1: not say. So I don't know. I don't know about him.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he'll get better though, like everyone else,
Speaker 1: that jury's out and Crawford, it's just hard to knock
Speaker 1: a guy that's playing so many different positions. It's playing
Speaker 1: hard he's playing. He's been playing hurt for two years.
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't think he's special though. Ye,
Speaker 1: well that's and he's getting paid to be. This is
Speaker 1: It's a conversation we've had a million times. Like I,
Speaker 1: I love him as a locker room presence. He's gonna
Speaker 1: play through any injury. He's gonna he'll play anywhere. He's
Speaker 1: a great team guy. The only reason he ever comes
Speaker 1: up is because of the contract he's playing under wad Car.
Speaker 1: At this point, you don't have a choice but to say, yeah,
Speaker 1: they probably shouldn't have given him that deal, but that's
Speaker 1: where they are, that's what they're dealing with. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: I'm not I have a hard time dogging on him
Speaker 1: for the effort that he puts in and what I
Speaker 1: know about him as a high character guy. But it's
Speaker 1: a fair criticism that he's not living up to that contract.
Speaker 1: You know, when you draft a guy, you draft these
Speaker 1: guys that aren't first rounders, and you know, whether it
Speaker 1: be third, fourth, whatever it is, and you draft them
Speaker 1: to develop them, and then when you do develop them,
Speaker 1: it sounds good. But this is not the seventy five
Speaker 1: Cowboys anymore, where you can just develop these guys until
Speaker 1: they get good. You have to make decisions on them,
Speaker 1: and sometimes you have to make decisions before you really
Speaker 1: know what they are. And I go back to ten
Speaker 1: years ago when they had to make those decisions, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, Miles Austin had played four years, but he
Speaker 1: had a couple of big games, and now they got
Speaker 1: to make it a call on him, and so they
Speaker 1: said they got to pay him. That's what the market was.
Speaker 1: Doug Free, Tony Romo, same thing. Doug Free worked out,
Speaker 1: Tony Romo definitely worked out. But sometimes you have to
Speaker 1: make a call. So they had to make a call
Speaker 1: on Crawford. He'd played a few years, he'd gotten hurt
Speaker 1: or he toward his achilles. So he's about to be
Speaker 1: a free agent after the end of the year. So
Speaker 1: what do you do. This is kind of the market value,
Speaker 1: and you just you kind of say, well, let's go
Speaker 1: for it. And honestly, it doesn't work. The saving grace
Speaker 1: is that a few years later, like it's not a
Speaker 1: good contract, but it's not terrible either, Like he's not
Speaker 1: even one of the like super highest paid tackles in
Speaker 1: the league anymore. After I mean Sue and Atkins and McCoy,
Speaker 1: like those deals are substantially bigger than his. So it's
Speaker 1: not it's not a good deal by any stretch of
Speaker 1: the imagination, but it's not like it's it's not like
Speaker 1: that Romo deal that just hangs over your salary cap.
Speaker 1: So I to think people forget that you have to
Speaker 1: make decisions on guys before you really know what they are,
Speaker 1: and you just you just a hope and that they
Speaker 1: turned out to what you think, and sometimes it doesn't
Speaker 1: work out. That last point. I think about Levian Bell
Speaker 1: all the time and the way the Steelers seemingly when
Speaker 1: he's when he's healthy and not and when he's playing
Speaker 1: and kind of in the you know, the the swing
Speaker 1: of things, they do everything with him. He plays like
Speaker 1: straight up receiver. I know Zeke lines up out there,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't ever get the ball like they never
Speaker 1: they the screen pass, even as well as it worked
Speaker 1: in that Pittsburgh game, it's like something they refuse to
Speaker 1: ever run with him. I know he had I think
Speaker 1: he's I think he's already got nine or ten receptions
Speaker 1: on the year, but they don't. It doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: they're that interested in putting him in space like swing
Speaker 1: passes and things like that. I just I agree with
Speaker 1: the caller, like he's he's the best player, He's the
Speaker 1: best skill player on your team and one of the
Speaker 1: best skill players in the league. But the space, I mean,
Speaker 1: I thought he was lined out in the and as
Speaker 1: a receiver more than I've ever seen him, he was
Speaker 1: out there. They never get from the ball. And here's
Speaker 1: my problem with it, Like it doesn't seem like they
Speaker 1: do much creatively with him when it comes to the
Speaker 1: passing game, Like they'll throw the ball to him on
Speaker 1: a little flare route. Have you seen him run any
Speaker 1: other routes? Like, That's not the only route you can
Speaker 1: run with a running back, you know. There there are
Speaker 1: lots of things that you can do with a running back,
Speaker 1: and I think Levon Bell is a good example different
Speaker 1: kind of routes. Use that that Texas you know route
Speaker 1: when you kind of go out and then you flip
Speaker 1: come back into the middle of the field where typically
Speaker 1: you're gonna be lined up with a you're gonna be
Speaker 1: manned up with a linebacker. I think that is a
Speaker 1: great route for him, especially if you got went and
Speaker 1: clear in the middle out There are things that they
Speaker 1: could do creatively with him in the passing game, they
Speaker 1: just don't seem to do. Where's the wheel route that
Speaker 1: he killed linebackers on throughout training camp? Where's that? I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, and I know even eleven on eleven is
Speaker 1: different than one on one, but I just he's way
Speaker 1: too dynamic of a player for at what he went
Speaker 1: into the locker room with like four touches or five
Speaker 1: times like and I thought the same thing in the
Speaker 1: Green Bay game, like back in the play, he's he's
Speaker 1: the thing that makes this whole thing run. And I
Speaker 1: just think their scope of how to use him seems limited.
Speaker 1: I still go back to what I remember Gary Brown
Speaker 1: told me this after draft day when they drafted Ezequelely.
Speaker 1: He see it when we were going through and we
Speaker 1: were we were working him out and working him out,
Speaker 1: and we were thinking about how he compared to other
Speaker 1: running backs. We actually were comparing him to wide receivers
Speaker 1: as far as how good his pass catching game is.
Speaker 1: He's that good of a dynamic player. It's not just
Speaker 1: what he does when he's running the ball, it's also
Speaker 1: what he does in the past the game, and they
Speaker 1: have yet to realize that. I don't think this coaching
Speaker 1: staff they do some things really well. I think it's
Speaker 1: they're good, they're fine. They're not that creative. And you know,
Speaker 1: in terms of like looking around the league, I've said
Speaker 1: that about the defense before, Like they they're like everybody
Speaker 1: has a square hole and we have square pegs that
Speaker 1: go everywhere. Like you don't see those hybrid type of
Speaker 1: honey Badger players. You don't see that type of mismatching
Speaker 1: and all that type of stuff. I just I think
Speaker 1: they're very traditional. This is an old school coaching staff,
Speaker 1: and some of that stuff seems like it gets away
Speaker 1: from him. All right, guys, appreciate you joining us. Back
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