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Welcome 24 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: to the Favorites the podcast from the Volume Podcast Network. 25 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: I am Chad Moment, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. 26 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: I am joined as I am for every episode by 27 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: my co host, my companion, my compadre, my BFF, professional 28 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: better from the Fighting City of Philadelphia, SAI man Hunt Dar. 29 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: Another show closer to the kickoff the NFL season Chat. 30 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: Every day we knocked knock one out, I can think 31 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: to myself, another step closer. It's getting so much closer, 32 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: as as former co host of the podcast used to say, 33 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: Bob Scucci of the of Boyd Gaming used to say, 34 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: I need this for my lungs. I need the season 35 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: to start for my lungs. And in fact, like it's 36 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: still like September eight is kickoff in September eleven is 37 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: the first Sunday. I can't believe it's still like ten 38 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: days in August. We gotta go through. It's not even 39 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: as close as I would like it to be. 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You can watch it 50 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: on our YouTube, you can watch it on Twitter. But 51 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: we are here today, Simon to talk about the s 52 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: C West, and as we did earlier this week, Uh, 53 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna have uh Colin Cowherd come on. We're gonna 54 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: talk about the f C West with him. What I 55 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: love about this is, uh, he's got huge opinions on 56 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: this conference because we've got the Chargers in his backyard, 57 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: the Raiders a team he has strong opinions on, the 58 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: Broncos a quarterback he has strong opinions on, and the 59 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: Chiefs with Patrick Mahomes, who I know how he feels 60 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: about wide receivers right now and their importance in the 61 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: NFL and the loss of Tyree Hill and what that 62 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: is going to mean. Uh, And I feel like every 63 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: opinion he has is going to be different than yours 64 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: and probably aligned with mine. Here's what's interesting about this division. 65 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: Chiefs plus one sixty Raiders plus six fifty there is 66 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: that is the shortest delta between favorite and long shot 67 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: in any division in the NFL. Reflective of the quality 68 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks in this division. I'm gonna be interested 69 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: to hear what Colin rate these four quarterbacks for just 70 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: this season. Right you know exactly who these four guys 71 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: are with their offenses. How would he order it? Because 72 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,559 Speaker 1: right now I think I'm gonna shock people with my order. 73 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: And again this is just for this season, simply based 74 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: off the teams and what I know about them. At 75 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: one I got my home. Still I great him out 76 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: with the best offensive line of football or number two 77 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: right by the Eagles, And I don't really care about 78 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,119 Speaker 1: the losing enough Tyreek Hill. I still think it's again 79 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a big deal at certain points, but 80 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: he still has Kelsey still has a lot of weapons 81 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: on the outside, and they brought in Juju which I 82 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: think is a big deal. So to me, now much 83 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: has changed there. My second quarterbacks is gonna shock people. 84 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: It's actually Derek car Chet. I have Derek Carr graded 85 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: above Herbert and Russell Wilson this upcoming season. And it's 86 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: for a maltitude of reasons other than the fact that 87 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: I just love what they have in Vegas round that 88 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: awesome scheme and Josh McDaniels, I think is going to 89 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: bring the best out of their car. So to me, 90 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: it's a no brainer where other people are really tugging 91 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: with it. But I look at Herbert again and why 92 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: my third rated, uh not Russell Wilson. I have Herbert 93 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: is my third rated. Herbert is inconsistent. I've watched all 94 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: his snaps this off season, every single throw he made 95 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: last season, I watched whatever it was, I think it 96 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: was six twenty two past attempts he had. I watched 97 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: every single one. He's got the talent, there's no doubt. 98 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: I mean he is smart, really really smart, football wise, 99 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: incredibly and consistent, and with a with a coach inconsistent 100 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: as well, and Staley not know what the hell he's 101 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: doing with analytics. Like again, the guys all over the place. 102 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: He like try to use math as a de turn 103 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: where he's not. He's going off book, he's not listening 104 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,679 Speaker 1: to the people. I just can't have him above Derek 105 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: Carr right now, a guy who didn't make the playoffs 106 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: last year, who did win a bunch of games with 107 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: a second coach, and all the drama going on with Vegas, 108 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: and in fourth I got Russell Wilson, a guy that 109 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: I know collinshi on him, I know Chad high on him. 110 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: I have not seen any indicator that offensive line is 111 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: improved in anyway. He's been getting lit up all preseason 112 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: and these joint practices that he's been doing with these 113 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: other teams. That's not good in this division. That all 114 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: these teams have stacked D lines. Every single team this 115 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: division has a good D line. So the Russell Wilson 116 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: questions is the man is gonna be thirty four years 117 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: old come November. He's undersized, he has one notorious ring 118 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: to his name, which I joke about is because of 119 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: a defense. I just I think there's too much put 120 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: on Russell Wilson that he's gonna be the Stafford, the 121 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: Tom Brady coming in first year and win the Super Bowl. 122 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: The difference was those those other teams they had offensive lines. 123 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson does not have that. He's only going from 124 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: a harball offensive line in Seattle with better weapons on 125 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: the outside to an unproven team in Denver with a 126 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: weak offensive line. So yeah, my one, two, three, four 127 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: goes Mahomes, Car Herbert and Russell Wills and just for 128 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: this season, right, it's not purely career, just for this season. 129 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: I think that's fascinating. What I love is I want 130 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: to talk about Herbert for a second, because hey, you 131 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: say you watched all six and twenty two past attempts. 132 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: Do you do that in a day? Like? Do you 133 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: watch you? Do you watch the whole game? Like? How 134 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: do you do that? No? Way, too boring to do 135 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: it like that, But I said, I spread it out 136 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: over two month period because I'm all in, Like I 137 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: coming to this year. I wanted to be all in 138 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: on the Chargers. I wanted to be no, this is 139 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: the team, right, the coach is going to correct all 140 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: of his mistakes from last year. Herbert Will and I 141 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: am going to be all in on this team coming 142 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: to the season because again, on paper, they're incredible, like defensively, 143 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: all offensively. The Chargers are so good and we all 144 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: believe in Herbert, right, but I mean we can't lie 145 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: the kids hasn't made the playoff yet, right, this is 146 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: heading into his third season. We can talk about all 147 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: the pressure that's on Hurts and to her he's got 148 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: the most pressure in my opinion, on him, just because 149 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: he's kind of gotta prove it. And luckily for him, 150 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: he's a quiet guy out there in l a and 151 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: no one's really paying attention to him. But I mean, 152 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: come on, man, like we're all hyping you up NonStop, 153 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: and it's like I need to seek consistency, Like we 154 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: all know he has the arm town. So yeah, for 155 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: me watching his film, I can't believe how good this 156 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: kid is and I can't believe he fell in that draft. 157 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: And it's like, you know what, I've taken him over 158 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, probably not, but over to h Yeah, Like 159 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: just looking at his body type and his style of play, 160 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: it is interesting that he felt just in the simple 161 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: fact that he's just shy, quiet guy who has kind 162 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: of had his long hair, and you know, people really 163 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: didn't know understand him in Oregon, where it's like just 164 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: watching his body type and his throwing style, it's incredible 165 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: as talent. So for me just upcoming season, I have 166 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: the most question marks in this division I have about Herbert, 167 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: but just on talent and the skill level the Chargers team. 168 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: That's the reason I put him above Russell Wilson. What's 169 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: interesting is, you know, it's funny you say on paper 170 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: and I and you think about this team being so talented. 171 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: The Chargers have spent a generation being the most talented 172 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: team and never having the coach that can get him 173 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: over the top. So another they've got Brandon Staley, And 174 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: I can't remember. This is what I thought about when 175 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: you said that. I thought about Brandon Staley, and I 176 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: thought about, is he sitting in an office somewhere saying 177 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: if we funck this up, it's on us, right, Like 178 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: I remember years ago when we first started action gambling 179 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: was starting to get more popular, and we'd be in 180 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: the office and having our like business challenges or personnel 181 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: challenges or whatever it is, and you sort of you're 182 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: in the bunker and you're only seeing what's hard, and 183 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: then you go out in the world. And I was 184 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: talking to a buddy of mine who works in media 185 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: and he sees what we're doing and like we were 186 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: growing and getting good attention and we're in the right 187 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: space and have good backers and all this kind of stuff. 188 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: He's like, you guys are in the perfect spot. I 189 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: remember I went from lunch to him feeling great, watching 190 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: into the conference room, set down, We're about to have 191 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: a hard conversation. I'm like, guys, if we funk this up, 192 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: it's on us, Like we have every advantage to make 193 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: this work right now. And that's what I wonder if 194 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: Brandon Staley is saying that in coaches meetings or is 195 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: he so arrogant, like because of the way he's called plays. 196 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: I don't know the guy from Adam. He might not 197 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: be that arrogant. And when I've seen him speak, he's 198 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: been wonderfully thoughtful. Um, but is his philosophy is he so? 199 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: Is he so committed to his philosophy that he can't 200 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: get out of the way of the talent? That's what 201 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: I believe. He got humbled. He says he got humbled, 202 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: so I'm hoping he did. Like, again, I agree with 203 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: a lot of the math he was doing. Right. If 204 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: if you're playing against my homes and you're up four 205 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: and you're on your own thirty five and you've got 206 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: two yards to make a fourth down. I get it, 207 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: go for it you if the math is telling you not. 208 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: If the math doesn't get that, you have my homes 209 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: across the field. But if there's two seconds left in 210 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: the in the first half and you're on your opponents 211 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: five yard line, that's not a field game win, right. 212 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: If you don't get to touchdown, that's not a field 213 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: game win. You take the three there. Even the analytics 214 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: will tell you to take the three there every time. 215 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: And that's my biggest issue with the guys, Like he 216 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: claims he knows analytics and that's what he's based and 217 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: stuff off where that's not true. It's like you can't 218 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: lie and hide down the math and we all have 219 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: the math and data right in front of us. So 220 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: that's my big interesting thing with this team. It's like, 221 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: can he take that step because how many times have 222 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: we've seen a chat we you just talked about, We've 223 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 1: seen LT and my and my again people Sweetness Chad 224 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: thinks Sweetness is the greatest running back. Ladanian Thomas, in 225 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: my opinion, was the greatest running back ever Philip Rivers 226 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: and him together with Antonio Gates could not get over 227 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: the hump with Marty Schottenheimer. They just could not do 228 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: it for some reason. And that's what we talked about 229 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: the time. You need not just the players, the coaching. 230 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, too many question marks for me to make 231 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: them another two number two team in this division where 232 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: I know exactly what I'm getting from the Vegas and 233 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 1: if only my only mindset with Vegas is they're going 234 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: to improve, right, they had so much BSCO and on 235 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: last season. Everything I've seen from them this preseason, McDaniel's 236 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: new offensive scheme he's put in, I love it. I 237 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: love it so much. I mean Adams is literally icing 238 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: on the cake with him, Waller, I mean Hunter Renfro. 239 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: I just can't get over how talented Vegas offense is 240 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: the biggest weakness in Vegas Obviously horrible secondary, I mean 241 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: just say, absolutely terrible on paper. Secondary. So going to 242 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: be exciting team this season for sure, where they're just 243 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: gonna be in shootout. So I again this list. I'm 244 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: excited to hear what Colin thinks. It's it's it's tough 245 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: to do these four quarterbacks against each other, but when 246 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: you really base it off what they have on their teams, 247 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: and just for this season, it's it's exciting because again 248 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about this. At the end of the year, 249 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: I might look like a complete idiot taking Derek car 250 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: over Russell Wilson justin Herbert, But in August, I'm feeling 251 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: pretty good. Well, look, you may not like. Look the 252 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: the huge advantage that car has now is they signed 253 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: Davante Adams. They've got you talk about weapons in Renfro 254 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: and Waller at tight end, They've got incredible weapons. Uh, 255 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: they've got a new coach. Is he going to be 256 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: the coach that can take advantage? Is he gonna be 257 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: better if Josh McDaniel is going to be better than 258 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: he was in Denver? We'll see to the playoffs. I 259 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: mean that really happened. People forget that actually happened. You 260 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: know what, Let's ask Colin. Let's bring Colin in and 261 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: let's see what he has to say, because this is 262 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: a division where he's gonna have a lot of opinions 263 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: about the quarterbacks. 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Joining us again Grand 294 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: puba volume podcast network media mogul. We had talked about 295 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: the NFC West. Now we are talking about the best 296 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: division in football, the a f C West. Colin, before 297 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: you came on, sign that I want you to list 298 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: your ranking of the quarterbacks in this division, and I 299 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: want Colin's reaction. So this is on the basis of 300 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: this is just for this year and about the team 301 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: around them, not a quarterback first quarterback, just for these 302 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: individual quarterbacks and the teams are on. So for this division, 303 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: I still look at as it's Mahomes, right. I don't 304 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: really worry too much about losing tyret Kill when he 305 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: has when the number one graded out was the number 306 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: one offensive line of football, where he still has Kelsey 307 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: and we know they've added other offensive weapons to them. Now, 308 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: this is where it gets a little crazy in my list. 309 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: Derek Carr for me is the number two quarterback in 310 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: this division, and the many many reasons is not just 311 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: my faith in Josh McDaniel stepping in and up being 312 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: upgrade to this offense. We know what it is with 313 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: Derek Carr, right, He's got Waller, he's got Hunter Renfro 314 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: and then they brought in Davante Adams, who was his 315 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: best friend in college's number one go to guy. It's 316 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: all set up for him this season, and I still 317 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: have too many question marks who my number three quarterback 318 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: is justin Herbert can look incredible for two quarters and 319 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: then he'll just have to take a quarter off or 320 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: he just won't look right and he won't make the 321 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: smart plays. And that's again that's an age thing where 322 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: I think he's a quarterback with Again people talk about 323 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: two on Jalen Hurts. I put Herbert right there as 324 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: a quarterback with the most pressure on his back. Two 325 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: years in the league, no playoff appearances, all this hype. 326 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: Last year, Chad just read it off fourteen to one 327 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: for the Chargers to win the Super Bowl. Insanity. And 328 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: then my last My number four guy in this division 329 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: is Russell Wilson again, thirty four year old quarterback under 330 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: size five eleven. That's being nice with a bad offensive line. 331 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: The Broncos this preseason have blocked nobody. They've blocked no 332 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: one in there there. They've done litted camp with other 333 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: teams and they're not blocking people. And Russell Wilson's having 334 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: to take just these these plays where he's breaking outside 335 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: the pocket, which is great, which is where we like Russ, 336 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: but that was years ago. Again, Russ is thirty four. Now, 337 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,719 Speaker 1: he can't be taking big hits. We've seen it two 338 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: years in a row where he's taking little hits and 339 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: has not been right right. That hand injury took him 340 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: out all last season. So for me, number one Mahomes, 341 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: number two Derek Carr, number three Herbert and number four 342 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. And then again this is just for this season. 343 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: I like all four, so I know this is a 344 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: cop out, but I view them as four unique players. 345 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: Mahomes is the most gifted, but is the least consistent mechanically. 346 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: Herbert's the best mechanically, but can be and he could 347 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: be the logo of the NFL. The way he throws, 348 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: you get the exact same sewing motion, big strong arm, 349 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: but he can be at times a bit mechanical. Uh So, 350 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: in a way, Herbert and Mahomes are very different. One 351 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: is mechanically a challenge, but just all sorts of crazy angles. 352 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: Herbert is the same motion for every throw, but he 353 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: can be a little stiff. I think Russell's the best 354 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: playmaker of the baseball player in him the ability to 355 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: be elusive, keep a pocket alive, and yet never get hit. 356 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: All these years he's had one finger injury. He's never 357 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: been hurt in college. And I think Derek is smaller, 358 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: less of an arm less elusive, but has shown an 359 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: ability to um and it could be as religious conviction 360 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: to not hear a ton of noise and chaos. He 361 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: kind of plays through stuff. He tunes a lot of 362 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: bullshit out and we saw this last year the team 363 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: falling apart. He is so focused on what matters to 364 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: him that he's very unique. He's not as he's not 365 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: as strong as Herbert. He's not as gifted. He doesn't 366 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: make plays, but he hit his I think Derek Carr's 367 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: great ability is to um overcome. He's an overcomer um. 368 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: So I look at all four of him as having 369 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: kind of a special quality. I think it's the best 370 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: quarterback division of my life. I don't know there's ever 371 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: been four quarterbacks this good. They're all totally unique, card 372 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: and have a huge arm. Russell's a little small, Justin's 373 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: a little mechanical. Sometimes mahomes a little loose. But they're 374 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: all gifts. So and I don't have a problem ranking, 375 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: you know, wherever the rankings are. I just think they're 376 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: very unique. I think they all they really what they 377 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: really do is what the NFL has become at quarterback. 378 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: You could take all four of them and say this 379 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: is the NFL. It used to be white six four 380 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: pocket passers. We got short guy, we got big, mechanical guy, 381 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: we got side arm guy. It's all flavors. It really 382 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: is the NFL. You can win four different ways with 383 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: four different quarterbacks, and you couldn't in the seventies. Everybody 384 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: was kind of the same. That's going to take away 385 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: of that division. So this Division right now, difference in 386 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: the odds to win the division from the Chiefs to 387 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: the Raiders. Chiefs Chargers, Broncos Raiders is the shortest of 388 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: any division. Obviously because of the quality of the quarterbacks. 389 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: You have talked on your radio show countless times. This 390 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: is a wide receiver league. You need to invest in 391 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: the wide receivers. We talked about it with Green Bay. 392 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: They haven't invested in the wide receivers. The Chiefs got 393 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: rid of Tree Hill. They're the odds on favorite to 394 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: win the a f C West. You and I have 395 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: talked about how we both love Russell Wilson. Simon just 396 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: listed Russell Wilson fourth. The Broncos are third in odds 397 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: to win the division. Who do you think? When is 398 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: this division? Right now? I have Denver winning it because 399 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: here here's my takeaway, here's what I worry about Kansas City. 400 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: So not only did the Broncos go and get Randy Gregory, 401 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: they also got DJ Jones from San Francisco, So I 402 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: think they have the most talented defensive front. My argument 403 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: is what quarterback will be the most comfortable. So the 404 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: old line for the Raiders is bad. Outside of Colton Miller, 405 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: it's been shaky, so I have them for I love 406 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: Rashaan Slater, but they got a right tackle problem with 407 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: the Chargers in a division with a lot of good 408 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: pass rusher their third I think Creed Humphrey has become 409 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: the best or second best center in the sport. I 410 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: do worry without Tyreek Hill their ability to play from 411 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: behind at the same level. They've lost their lightning strike. 412 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: They'll be productive. I like Denver's old line. I think 413 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: they have really strong running games, so they'll mostly play 414 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: on the mostly thrown play action. I think their backs 415 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: are great. So my thing is, I think Denver's actually 416 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: going to run more than people think. I think people 417 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be let Russ Cook. They lost Tim Patrick. 418 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be I think they're gonna be 419 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: a lot about a lot of a running team that 420 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: throws mostly on play action, and that's where Russell's really effective. 421 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 1: Russell is not terribly effective on third and nine. Russell 422 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: is really effective on second five. He's really effective because 423 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: he gets that crease, that opening on play action. Because 424 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: he's short, there's openings on the offensive line. So I 425 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: have I have Denver winning it. The one thing I'll 426 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: say about Kansas City, is that because Mahomes is so gifted, 427 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: we've got to acknowledge this. He has had the last 428 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: two years six games stretches where he's mechanically in the 429 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: weeds now and he brings him back. I mean, and 430 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: you'll say, yea, we got to get it right. You know, 431 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: if you go back and look at mahomes is pre 432 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: draft scouting resume, I mean they literally call it. They're like, 433 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,239 Speaker 1: he's great. You got to coach this guy. Like he 434 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: gets mechanically into the weeds. Last year he had a 435 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: six game stretch. He was just off. He's so mesmerizing. 436 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: You know, Well, you go to a fireworks show and 437 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: the fireworks shows amazing. Then you drive home, go to 438 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: the park the next day with the firework shows at 439 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: it's a freaking mess. It's uninhabitable for two days. Because 440 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: Mahomes is so great, you don't see all this stuff 441 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: behind it. Because his moments are so great. He it 442 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: can be bad, like he has bad like Cincinnati he 443 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: had a bad second half. He has bad half. But 444 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: if the fireworks show is so glamorous, nobody wants to 445 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: look at all the stuff on the ground. Is I 446 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: think Mahomes is less consistent, then we all want to 447 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: admit I think Herbert's actually I think we look at 448 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: Herbert and we think it's kind of inconsistent. But I 449 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: could argue Derek Carr I get the same guy virtually 450 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: every Sunday. I mean I kind of feel like I 451 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: always get the same Derek Cary leaves the NFL and 452 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of comebacks since he entered the league. 453 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: I kind of feel like he's had six coaches nine years. 454 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: I get the same Derek Carver a year. But my Homes, 455 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: he's he's a handful. I think there are times that 456 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: Andy Reid is pulling his hair out with it, and 457 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: I love him, but we forget these bad halfs and 458 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: bad months back to back years. I've seen this a lot. 459 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: This is great because Simon almost had me turned around 460 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: before you came on, because he's so pro Niners. Uh, 461 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: I mean so pro Raiders. Uh. Like I said, Chiefs, Chargers, 462 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: Broncos Raiders are. The current UM is the current order 463 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: for the a f C West. It's A plus one 464 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: sixty plus two fifty for the Chargers, plus two sixty 465 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: for the Broncos, plus six fifty for the Raiders. Here's 466 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: what's interesting for the Super Bowl. Three of the top 467 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: seven teams to win the Super Bowl right now in 468 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: terms of future odds are from the a f C West, 469 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: the Broncos, the Chargers, and the Chiefs. The Russell Wilson argument, 470 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: to me goes back to something Jordan Palmer said on 471 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: this podcast on The Favorite Podcast about three or four 472 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: weeks ago. He's not a buyer of Russell Wilson and 473 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: sort of the inspirational moments or what he does off 474 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: the field. He's a buyer in the consistency he exhibits 475 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: on the field. Players want to know what they're gonna 476 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: get the last two minutes. You want to know what 477 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: your quarterback is gonna be doing. You want to know 478 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: he's going to deliver it where he says he's going 479 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: to deliver it. You want to be able to make 480 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: your play because you know he's going to make his play. 481 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: I think that's what you get from Russell Wilson more 482 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: than anything. That's why I like the Broncos to win 483 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: this division simon more than the Raiders, more than the Chiefs, 484 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,479 Speaker 1: more than the Chargers. I love Russell Wilson. I love him. 485 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: I bet you do. You're the bet in public, Chad. 486 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: That's how that's how they get you. Again. Everyone's sucked in. 487 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: Everyone's been all over this for months, and I'm just 488 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: I gotta be the realist and if I'm just looking 489 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: at straight value, that's why I like the Raiders. There's 490 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: zero reason why the Raiders should not be plus three 491 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: win this division. The difference between them the Chargers Denver, 492 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: it's minuscule. If anything, it should favor Vegas because of 493 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: what we just talked about, everything they just went through 494 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: last year, they still somehow made it in by people 495 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: forget this. They be the Chargers at home right on 496 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: the last game of the year. So to me, it's 497 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: just that's how the public is. They just like the new, 498 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: shiny new toys and the new exciting things, and I 499 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: gotta be that boring guy where it's like, Okay, I 500 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: know Mahomes is the best quarterback or the second best 501 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: quarterback of football if you think it's Josh Allen. I 502 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: know Andy Reid is one of the best offensive minds 503 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: and all football. I'm getting them both in a year 504 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: where people are down on them. So to me, I'll 505 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: just wait and hope that Mahomes is another slow start 506 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: and I'll just get great value on betting the Chiefs 507 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: later in the season. But it's kind of what happened 508 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: last year. I just think too many people are looking 509 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: at what happened with Mahomes last year. I think that 510 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: was more of they were due for a bad year. 511 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: Not every team is like the Patriots and Tom Brady 512 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: and you win the division and you come the number 513 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: one seed. Every year. It's a normal football There's ups 514 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: and downs. It's just how it is with these regular teams. 515 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: And a down year last year the Chiefs, they were 516 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: still the best team, right Like we were all shocked 517 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: when the Bengals came back and beat them in that 518 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: second half. So to me, just looking at from that standpoint, 519 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: I agree with Collin's assessment that the Denver thing is 520 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: that's the exciting thing, right Russell Wilson, the upgrade from 521 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: him and Drew from Drew Lock, it's day and night. 522 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: You can't even compare it. So that's where I'm I 523 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: think Collin's right, where it's like, if this kid can 524 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: come in and if they can go four and oh 525 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: three and one to start the year, Denver, they're off 526 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: and running. Everything I've said is pointless about Russell Wilson 527 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: because he does have that moxie, like, yeah, he's lame 528 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: as hell and his audio clips, but dude, on the field, 529 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: you cannot deny his swagger. We've all seen it with 530 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: his swagger and the guys they follow it, and Denver 531 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: has been dying for that. So I do agree with 532 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: Colin on that sense that Denver is the upside of 533 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: this division. Well, the one thing I worry about now, 534 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: Russell has been a great September quarterback the last three years. 535 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: In the first three weeks he's got twenty nine touchdowns 536 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: in one pick. But here's what I worry about. Kyler 537 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: Murray and Russell play a very similar style. Even when 538 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: the pockets cleaned, they move a lot of times. Russell 539 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: feels better in September than December, and Kyler feels better 540 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: in September the December. And my question is that style 541 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: just wears on your legs. I mean, this is why 542 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: Westbrook Russell Westbrook falls apart in the playoffs. His style 543 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: is so hyper athletic that by the end of the playoffs, 544 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,719 Speaker 1: I mean second round of the playoffs, it feels like 545 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: Westbrook is shot. You know, Steph Curry's game is jumpers, 546 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: and I mean he's playing half the court. And so 547 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: I think Russell and Kyler are so hyper athletic that 548 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: I do wonder like the is Russell hitting a wall 549 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: athletically where he's like his style it does not last. 550 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: It's not Tom Brady. Brady is five years old. He doesn't. 551 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: It's it's you know, as long as he gets to ply, 552 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: you know, the yoga that he's his core is strong. 553 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: I mean essentially, I mean if you if you look 554 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: at how seasons work, it gets colder, you're less limber. 555 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: Kayler and Russell Wilson I worry about like Russell's moving 556 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: out of his prime and Kyler is already in it. 557 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: Whereas I think you can play. I think Justin Herbert 558 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: could literally play for twenty three years. You know, he 559 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: moves when he has to, so there not. That's the 560 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: one knock on Russo Wilson. It's like he's put on weight. 561 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: He's not quite as quick, and I'm like, I don't 562 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: know if you can play that style. I don't think 563 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: your primes thirteen years in that style. I think it's 564 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: like eight. And some people think I've heard people say 565 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: he's moved out of his prime by October or November. 566 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: You may be right, that's very possible. I don't. I 567 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: that's that style, that hyper athletic style basketball football. I 568 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: just think it has limitations. I think you age very quick. 569 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: I mean Westbrook got thirty two. It's over, Cam three over. 570 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: You know you start looking at I mean Peyton Manning 571 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: had four neck surgeries. Had he not fallen apart, Peyton 572 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: could have played Blue's forty three years old. All right, 573 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: everyone give me. I think we've made it pretty clear. 574 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: I just want to confirm, Colin. Give me your pick 575 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: to win the a f C West again, Chiefs Chargers, 576 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: Broncos Raiders, your pick to win Denver wins Kansas City 577 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: wild Card playoff. Charger special teams kill them finished third, 578 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: Raiders defense, they can't overcome it their fourth Wow. Okay, 579 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: you like the Broncos. Uh Like I said the Broncos 580 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: about plus two sixty to win the division, Simon, I'll 581 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: go Chiefs, Chargers, Raiders then Denver. Wow. I just got 582 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: to believe the Chargers finally get over the hump and 583 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: make the playoffs this year. I just could you see 584 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:14,719 Speaker 1: their special teams against Dallas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But I 585 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: was saying the chat on paper, it's incredible offensively, defensively, 586 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, the Chargers have zero excuse this year. 587 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: That's what to me. Sta Staley is on the hot 588 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: sea already. It's like, Okay, you can be your wild 589 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: man going up for a fourth down in your own twenty, 590 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: but no playoffs this year. If I was them, you 591 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: have to move on. Yep, they have to go. The 592 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: last time you were on the show in the spring, 593 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: we assessed where you are in the growth of the 594 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: Volume and your media media mogul them. You were adamant, 595 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: don't chase money, find good management. Chase good management, not money, 596 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: because there's a sea of money out there, there's not 597 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: a lot of great management. We're going into our second 598 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: football season. How are you feeling right now? Well, the Volume, 599 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: added Richard Sherman. We have two major announcements in the 600 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: next three weeks. I think we're going to have an 601 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: incredible football season. We have now assembled our entire management team. 602 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: They're awesome. Uh And it's the most fun I've ever 603 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: had building something. It's the most fun I've ever had. 604 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: Like I like broadcasting, and I haven't doing it forever, 605 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: but I like new stuff. And the volume is because 606 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: it's sort of like, remember when you were in high 607 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: school and I was a team guy. I played in 608 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: the baseball team in literally we didn't have high school baseball. 609 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: Played in the football team and a basketball team, and 610 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: the wrestlers always had this thing where, hey, I don't 611 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: need to depend on other people, and that was always 612 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: their thing, like you're on a team. And I was 613 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: always like, yeah, okay, I like teams. To be honest 614 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: with you, I like teams, and I really noticed it 615 00:32:54,560 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: with a volume. Building teams is fun. It is really fun. 616 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: It's like all the things that guys like compartmentaling building. 617 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: I mean, we all built fort or played with legos 618 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: as kids, Like you're building a team. There's just something 619 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: great about it. I love our team. We've got major 620 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 1: announcements coming. I don't know, it's fun. The only thing 621 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: I'd add is awesome. I'm a big Steve Spurrier guy. 622 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: And Steve Spurrier was a state champion, picture won the 623 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: Iceman Trophy, It won national titles, and someone said, so decorated, 624 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: but to keep coaching, and he said, winning individual things 625 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: is nice. Winning individual accoldes is great. I like winning 626 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: team championships because when a team wins a championship, everybody 627 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: gets to hug. It's nice. Well, it's like you're playing 628 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: GM You're you know that. That's like I talked to 629 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: people at Action about this who are on the management 630 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,479 Speaker 1: side and moving up, Like that's all this is is. 631 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: It's like moneyball, right, and you're constantly asking you need this, 632 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: you need this. You've got to replace forty five home runs? 633 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: How are you going to do it? You're gonna do 634 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: it with this number of people. You know, you see 635 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: what the market is doing. You try to anticipate where 636 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: the market is going. How are you going to beat 637 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 1: this competitor. It's super fun. It's a The satisfaction comes 638 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: in a much longer term, right broadcasting, You sit down, 639 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: you've got a good bit, you build a good tree, 640 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: you've got the good branches. You know you've had a 641 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: good show. This You don't know if it's working for 642 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,240 Speaker 1: eighteen months, two years. What's the reaction you bring in Draymond? Oh, Draymond, 643 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: that was a good idea that worked out. Well, what 644 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: are the other archetypes we can bring in? Like Draymond 645 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: that's that's harder to be satisfied immediately with. Yeah, it is. 646 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: You're you're acquiring, drafting, developing. It's fun. There's a lot 647 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: of talent out there, you just gotta find it. There's 648 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: a lot of talent there really is. And a lot 649 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: of times, you know, a big network can hire people 650 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: because they have certain things they have to fill. They 651 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: have to find a sideline reporter or played by a 652 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: guy or an analyst. I'm just looking for talent. I'll 653 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: figure out where to put you. You're funny, you're smart, 654 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: you make me think you're curious. Hi are you? I'll 655 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: figure out where to put you. That's the fun part 656 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: is we have so much flexibility as you know what 657 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: the Action network. You know, like if you find some 658 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: of the talent that you just got to figure out 659 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: how to make them work. You know, the networks, you 660 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: know they have board members and you know they have 661 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: to worry about Wall Street and I just have to 662 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: worry about fun and talent people. That's a great freedom. 663 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 1: It's fun. That's when it's fun to be an insurgent. 664 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: We're insurgents, Colin, Yeah, disruptors, Yeah, disruptors. Colin Cowherd, boss 665 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: of the Volume Podcast Network, which means he's the boss 666 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: of the favorites. Thanks for coming on the podcast, brother 667 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: seeing this has been the favorite podcast from the Volume 668 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: Podcast Network. And and don't forget, we are unleashing a 669 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: torrent of podcast brilliance the Action Network podcast. Go check 670 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: it out, Go deeper, Go bigger, go longer on all 671 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: your favorite NFL betting insights Action Network podcasts. Go check 672 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: it out for Simon Hunter, for Matt Mitchell. Thank you 673 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 1: to Colin calherd Our Volume Grand Puba. 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