1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:00,560 Speaker 1: Warning. 2 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 2: Today's episode contains spoilers for season two episode one of 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: House of the Dragon and the book Fire and Blood. 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: One thing I love about this season young lords. The 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: young lords are in are in effect, get those oldies 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: out of here again. 7 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 3: Get them off lords out, Get them older. 8 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 2: They can't ride horses, they can't leave their casolate or 9 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 2: get the. 10 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 3: Get them nice. 11 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: This is like hoti little young lords out of that. 12 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 3: It's House of the Dragon rivedale edition. Let's get those baby. 13 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: Why why are we hiding something hot in the north, 14 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: Craign Stark, You gotta come south more often, my guy. Hello, 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: my name is Jason, and I'm Rosey Night, and welcome 16 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: back to x Revision of the podcast where we dive 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture. 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 2: Coming to you from my Art podcast, where we're bringing 19 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: you two episodes a week every Tuesday and Thursday. 20 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 3: In today's episode, in the airlock, what else would we 21 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 3: be talking about? Dragon? Season two episode one, and what 22 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 3: an episode that was? What a premiere? This show is 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: still just devastating us on every watch and omnibus, Jason 24 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 3: is going to break down all the Easter eggs In 25 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 3: the new opening credits which are beautiful. And in the 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 3: back man, we're gonna be doing a scorecard for Team 27 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 3: Black versus Team Green. Who's winning? 28 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: Quick pieces of House of the Dragon news. First of all, 29 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: as we all expected, House of the Dragon Season three 30 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: has been greenlit. The show is renewed and will continue. 31 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: And you would expect with the marketing layout and everything 32 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: we've seen and how important this show is to Max 33 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: slash HBO slash Order Discovery that that would be the case, 34 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: and that is the case. Also, the prequel series, based 35 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: on the Duncan Egg novella's A Night of the Seven 36 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: Kingdoms is set to arrive in late twenty twenty five, 37 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: so that is happening. 38 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not long now, all. 39 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: Right, folks, coming up, we're stepping out of the air 40 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: lock and talking about season two of House of the Dragon, 41 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 2: which premiered this Sunday. House of the Dragon Season two 42 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: Episode one. First of all, off rip, we get a 43 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: new intro animation, wonderful tapestry of events from Targari in history, 44 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: which I'll dive into deeper in the omnibus section. But 45 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 2: first of all, what do we see? We see, We 46 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: see the history of old Valaria. We see necromancers. 47 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: We see the Doom of Valeria, in which the region. 48 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 2: Was completely destroyed and as it remains to this day. 49 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 2: We see the migration of the Tigerians to the west. 50 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 2: We see Eggon's conquests of west of Us. We see 51 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 2: his birding of Heron Hall. We see Torren, the King 52 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: who knelt. We see Maygor, the cruel dying on the throne. 53 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 2: We see the Great Council of one oh one, which 54 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: began our series the first episode of season one of 55 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: House the Dragon, and then we see the Black versus 56 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 2: Green schism, and then we're into the show. We open 57 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: in the North Rosie, and what a wonderful place to 58 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: return to. 59 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 3: I know, what a surprise. I mean, did you expect 60 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 3: to see them go to the wall this alley? 61 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: I was surprised by it. Yeah, and I loved it. 62 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: It was real emotional feeling to watch that raven flying 63 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: over the hills to Winterfell and then beyond to Castle 64 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: Black in the Wall. 65 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: It was amazing. How did you feel watching that? 66 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? I thought it was a pretty brave swing to 67 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: just staw in it space that is so well known 68 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: for get to Game of Thrones fans. It's exciting I 69 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: also think it's the reason I think it's brave is 70 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: because realistically we're not gonna necessarily be spending more time there, 71 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: so I think to be like boom, here's the Wall 72 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 3: and to introduce Crag and Stark, and I think it's 73 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: really cool. I was. I was very impacted by it, 74 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: especially post you know, that great new credit sequence where 75 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: you get the theme that we know so well, you know, 76 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: and then it kind of takes you back to those 77 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: heydays of Game of Thrones. 78 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 2: So we're up here because Jusa's young Jase is you know, 79 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: out here making his pitch to the young Lord of 80 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: Winterfel Lord Craign's Stark, the Warden of the North. They're 81 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 2: at Castle Black. Stark is talking about his family history 82 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 2: and we learned that it's late summer. Winter is really 83 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: and truly coming, which is approaching. And that being the case, 84 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: one of the ways that the North prepares for winter 85 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: is they need to kind of like lay off any 86 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 2: extraneous mouths. So they will send one out of ten 87 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: members of the Stark household will go to Castle Black 88 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: to kind of you know, lower costs, lower the bleed 89 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:22,559 Speaker 2: on resources older warriors. Third, second and perhaps even third 90 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: and fourth sons, extra children. They will look for fights 91 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: elsewhere in the kingdom. They will look to leave so 92 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: they won't be a burden on their families. And this 93 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: is part of the deal that Jase strikes. 94 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: With Craig and Stark. 95 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: Craign Stark says, hey, I'll send you a couple thousand 96 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 2: of my old graveyards warriors or seasoned warriors. They're not 97 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: going to want to be up here during the winter time, 98 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: so they will go south with you. 99 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: And they will they will really fight. 100 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 2: Interesting note, I want to I want to ask you 101 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 2: about this, Roseanne. I want to raise this for our 102 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: book reading audience. So in this really interesting conversation, they're 103 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 2: talking about Torren Stark, who was king during Agon's invasion. 104 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: Invasion. 105 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: He was He's known as the King who Knelt because 106 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 2: rather than continue the fight, he surrendered to Eggon and 107 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 2: effectively ended the invasion the war for west Ros and 108 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: Eggon was victorious. And they also talk about the visit 109 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 2: of old King Jaharis and Queen Alison. Alison was particularly 110 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: beloved by Northerners because she increased the size of the 111 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: gift to the area of land, the strip of land 112 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: south of the Wall that the Black Brothers used to 113 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: support themselves. So Jay says to Craig and he's as 114 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 2: they're riding up in the ovators, like, oh, I like 115 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: to think about, you know, right here, our ancestors. They 116 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 2: were just talking about Tornstar, And He's saying, you know, 117 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: I like to think about, you know, in this very 118 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: place like our ancestors had, you know, they met. And 119 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: then Craigan's like, well, I'm glad that you're not threatening 120 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 2: me with your dragons this time. So I was confused 121 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 2: because really, when j Harris and Alison came, according to 122 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: the histories, well according to everything we know about, that 123 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: was not like a aggressive visit. It was like an embassy. 124 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: It was like a royal tour essentially, and no one 125 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: was threatening anybody with dragons. 126 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: And that was not that long. It was several decades back. 127 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: But the meeting between Eggon and Torren Stark when Torren 128 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: Nelt happened way way south of the Wall, did not 129 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: happen there. So I was like a little I bumped 130 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: a little bit on what they were talking about there. 131 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: And I'd love some input from our book reading listeners. 132 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 3: I would say, book readers definitely kind of jump in 133 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 3: there because there's been a lot of theorizing about like 134 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: why torren nelt, you know, like was it because he'd 135 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: heard of the Field of Fire? Was it because he 136 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 3: was scared of the dragons? Was it? You know? When 137 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: House Dragon came out, people were like, was it because 138 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 3: of the prophecy? But as me and you have talked about, 139 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 3: I don't think they just don't think. 140 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: I think they kept that very tight. Yeah, I came 141 00:07:59,040 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: out it was very tight. 142 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: This is definitely really interesting because this becomes one of 143 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: the issues with adapting something people know so well is 144 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 3: you can't really have a throwaway line yeah, because we're 145 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: always gonna dig into it. I'm interested to see if 146 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: they build on this specific note anymore. And I'm also 147 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: interested that they introduced the Jason Craigan relationship, Like, now. 148 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: Young hot lords, you. 149 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: Enjoying things. I mean, I think they already have it, 150 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: Like people are already shipping it. 151 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 2: Listen, They're gonna get along famously. 152 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: Those two. 153 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: We go to Dragonstone, where Renice, the Queen who Never was, 154 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: is taking a break after patrolling the Narrow Sea on 155 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: her own. She's doing that in order to hold the 156 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: blockade of King's Landing, which Corliss's navy is holding in place. 157 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: Damon meanwhile, is like, get back on your dragon. We're 158 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: getting at it. We're going to King's Landing. We're gonna 159 00:08:59,240 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: me and you. 160 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna take on Va right now. We're gonna do 161 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: it right now, dude. 162 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: And Rainie's is like, just shut the fuck up. 163 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: Like I need, I need, male needs lunch. 164 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 3: Also, she doesn't want to like go and kill a king, 165 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: you know, like it's just not a good idea to 166 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 3: kill the other royal family. Rainie's already made a choice 167 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 3: to not burn the Green to the ground. Do I 168 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 3: agree with that choice? Probably not, honestly. Now she I 169 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 3: might be on Damon's side there, it would have been 170 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: a good idea. And I appreciate her mindset, her more 171 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 3: peaceful treaties focused mindset. She knows the war is gonna happen, 172 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 3: but she doesn't have to be a serial killer within 173 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: the war yet, which Damon he would just love to. 174 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 3: I also love how much here Renie is like so 175 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 3: empowered by the fact there is a female queen even 176 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 3: though they're not on side, that she just doesn't give 177 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: a ship what Damon says like, this scene is so 178 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 3: good because he really thinks he can kind of force 179 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: her into this thing, and she just doesn't pay him 180 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 3: any mind. 181 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 2: So Damon is uh, you know, grabbing the steering roll 182 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: right now because Reniera, who has just lost her son 183 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: Luke in the attack that we saw at the end 184 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: of season one in which aimoned one eye and Vagar 185 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: chop down on Luke and little Arax that happened mere 186 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 2: days ago, and she is looking for Luke's body in 187 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: order to confirm that this actually happened. Yeah, unfortunately it's 188 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 2: leaving a leadership vacuum over at Team Black. 189 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: Yes, not the best choice, Like RINERA, I love you. 190 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: This is very sad. You should be able to mourn. 191 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 2: No, we need to be here. I think we need 192 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 2: to be here right now anyway. So Damon is like, hey, 193 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: I'm ordering you to go with me to King's landing, 194 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: and Rainey's is like, well, you're not King, so so sorry. 195 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: On Drift, Mark Corlis is inspecting his flagship. 196 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 3: He looks like he's doing great, by the way, for 197 00:10:58,800 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 3: someone that we thought was dead. 198 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: He was really on death's door for much of season one. 199 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: He speaks to Alan, a sailor who we learn as 200 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 2: the man who dragged him from the water saved Corliss's life, 201 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: and it seems like there's a connection there that goes 202 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,479 Speaker 2: beyond just like a leader and one of his soldiers. 203 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: Alan gives Corlis a dagger that was delivered there for him, 204 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: and Corlis had intended it to give to his former 205 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 2: heir Luke, who is now deceased. On kings Landing, Arak 206 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 2: Era Rik Carlile, one of the arak Eric twins. 207 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:35,599 Speaker 1: And by the way, here's. 208 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: How I do this if you want to if you're 209 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 2: always mixing them up. Eric a for Allison Green. 210 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: Oh, so I do. 211 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 3: That's really good. 212 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: I like that. 213 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: So Eric Carlisle of the King's Guard is manning the 214 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 2: air defense, and we see like the Red Keep and 215 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: kings Landing is on high alert. 216 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: They're just big. 217 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 2: They got big crossbow aimed skyward and they're waiting if 218 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 2: any dragon is sighted above, they're ready to go. King 219 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: Egon is looking for his son, Prince Jiharis. Wants to 220 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 2: bring him to a small council meeting so he can 221 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 2: learn to be king. Queen Helena says, well, what if 222 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: he doesn't want to be king? And Eggon is like, 223 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: don't worry about it, He's gonna be Meanwhile, Queen Helena, 224 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: in one of those interesting kind of throwaway comments that 225 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 2: she is fond of making that always seem to hit 226 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: home somehow, tells Eggon and the assembled headmaidens there that 227 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 2: she's worried about quote the rats. 228 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:35,599 Speaker 3: Yes, and everybody thinks she's saying just complete wild nonsense 229 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 3: as usual. But I will also say I think these 230 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 3: two things together where she says, well, if he does 231 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 3: not want to be king and the rats, you're really 232 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 3: looking at Helena as someone who has nailed it again, 233 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 3: nailed it again, and has very specific views on how 234 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 3: a kingdom should be run and the cost of a kingdom, 235 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 3: how much it costs a king to be king, which 236 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 3: will come to fruition later. 237 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: Look back at season one, she predicted that Aimond would 238 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: claim Vagars said he would gain a dragon but lose 239 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: an eye. She predicted that Renie would burst out from 240 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: the floor of the dragon pit on top of Melee's 241 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: the beast beneath the boards. 242 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: And more and more and more. 243 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 2: Book readers will know that there's really no mention of 244 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: Helena's prophetic powers in the books. Which raises the possibility 245 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: that no one ever notices that she keeps on safe. 246 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 247 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 3: I like the idea that historically this woman who was 248 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 3: like could have been an incredibly powerful piece of the 249 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 3: Kingdoms and the Greens like war game, is just so 250 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 3: ignored that she never even ended up being noticed in 251 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 3: history for it. You know, I think that's really smart. 252 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the hottest brunch spot in King's landing is the 253 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: Queen's legs. 254 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, we go to the King's chambers, do it for you? 255 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 3: Look, I never I know, I don't want to hand 256 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 3: it to Kristen Cole, but in this case, at least 257 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 3: Jamaican Allison happy. 258 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: Well he's not. Yeah, that's right. 259 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: The dowards of Queen als in High Tower is getting 260 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: topped by none other than Lord Commander of the King's Guard, 261 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: Christian Cole, and they both decide. 262 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: We can never ever do this again. 263 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: That's it, the last time we do this, and of 264 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: course we get it definitely. 265 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 266 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: Eggon presides over a small council meeting with young Prince 267 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: of Jaharis in tow Otto is delivering some bad news. 268 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: The Valain in the north appear to have gone over 269 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: to the Blacks, not to worry though, because the storm 270 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: lands appear solidly green, because Aimond is soon to wed 271 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: Flora's Brathian Old Town's army will soon be on the march, 272 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: the river lands are firmly within the crown sites. All 273 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: those kind of still up for grabs, what with old 274 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: Lord Paramount Grover Tully kind of being a question mark 275 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: at this particular time. Will that the Black Blockade is 276 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: certainly taking a toll on the King's landing economy, and 277 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: that we need a master of ships right now because uh, 278 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: naval warfare is a thing that the Crown is going 279 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: to have to deal with. Aimon enters he's been invited 280 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: by his brother Eggon, even though he wasn't invited, and 281 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: he immediately just starts pitching ideas like we go to 282 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: the river lands, we take Haron Hall, we secure the 283 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: crown lands, and Eggon loves it. He Eggon is like 284 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: me and my bro we rise the dragons out. 285 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: Let's just fucking gla shit. 286 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: Love it. It's awesome. Everybody's like, King, you can't go 287 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: to war. We're fighting for you. If you die, it's over. 288 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: You are you fool? And it's very I think we 289 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 3: get a great insight here. You know, we've heard so 290 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 3: much about the dance and the dragons and Tiger Tagari 291 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: and madness and stuff. But I think something that I 292 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: really like about the way that they're bringing Eggon and 293 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 3: aim And into this. Obviously Aimon psycho like the child. 294 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 3: I do feel like it wasn't on purpose, but Eggon 295 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 3: is like he is still a kid, Like he wants 296 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 3: to have Prince Jaharah's there. He wants to humiliate people 297 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: with Prince Jaharah's. He wants to have Prince Harris ride 298 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 3: on people's backs. He's not taking this seriously. He doesn't 299 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 3: take the war seriously. 300 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: Tayland Lanister is a fucking exactly. 301 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Yeah, I'm like, let the kids be riding 302 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 3: him as a horse. But also you get a really 303 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: great insight here into you thought that you were going 304 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 3: to be able to control these kids, but it's just 305 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 3: not the case because you did make him king. 306 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: It's funny because Egguns a piece of shit. I don't 307 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: like him, but I found his the the warmth with 308 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: which he deals with his kids. You know, I guess 309 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: he kind of he basically ignores Princess Jahara, but like 310 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: he's very warm with j. 311 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 3: Harrison's Prince Jah Harrison. I found that interesting. 312 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: I found that to be very very winning. Otto and Allison, 313 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: of course, agree that the brothers plan is way to 314 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: aggressive diplomacy is working. Auto says, I'm saying I've got 315 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: letters out and it's working. And yes, Aim and killing Luke, 316 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: who's a fucking mistake. 317 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: We can admit that here the. 318 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 3: Privacy and don't need him to do anything else. 319 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: He's yeah, but but like, let's not compound those mistakes 320 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: by sending Vigor out to war. Let's keep Vigor near 321 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: the capitol to dissuade Raniera's dragons. Laris has a word 322 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: with Allison, and it's clear from the way that he 323 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 2: speaks to her and says he was trying to reach 324 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 2: her previously but couldn't get a hold of her. 325 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: That he knows about the queen. 326 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 3: And call, and he's upset because he used to be 327 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 3: the one who is getting to look at those feet. 328 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 3: That's done. 329 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: Those days are gone. 330 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 3: Those days are ova because now Kristen calls in the room, 331 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 3: he and he assures the Queen that foreign spies have 332 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 3: been cleansed. 333 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: From the Red Keep and all of her royal staff 334 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 2: has been replaced with people that he has personally vetted 335 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: aka their spies for Laris exactly. 336 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 3: Also, I just want to say this, it was only 337 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 3: on like the second off that I'd watch where I 338 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 3: was like, oh, this is a bad time to have 339 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 3: told Allison that you've replaced everyone on her stuff. I'm 340 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 3: just saying you didn't think through. I know Laris is 341 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 3: gonna he's gonna make his play. He wants to be 342 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 3: that guy with the power, and he thinks this is 343 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 3: how to do it. But it was bad timing, my friend, 344 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 3: it was bad timing. 345 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 2: Raniera finally locates Luke's cloak somewhere off the coast, wrapped 346 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 2: in Araxi's wing. 347 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 3: I thought this was very sweet. 348 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 2: Actually yeah, it's very, very, very very tough to watch 349 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 2: egg on. We get to watch him a ruling for 350 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: the first time. He's hearing petitions from. 351 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 3: The small folk, and he's trying to help him. 352 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 2: I think he's he's gotta He clearly wants to be 353 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: liked by the small folk. 354 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: He's like canceling taxes and stuff. 355 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 2: Otto is like, listen, we can't cancel taxes because we're 356 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 2: at war. 357 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 3: And we need to And he's like, look, we need to. 358 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 3: We need to steal this man's sheep so we can 359 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 3: give it to somebody else, Like, you know. 360 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: We need it. 361 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: Listen, the dragons don't run on gas, they on sheet, 362 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: so we need it. Pew the Hammer, who is a 363 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 2: blacksmith in the realm, comes up and he's like, listen, 364 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: iron prices are going up. Can the realm pay up 365 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: front rather than at the back end upon delivery, because 366 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: like we got to buy, we were having to invest. 367 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: More to get the iron now. 368 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: And I think, in one of Eggon's best moments ever, 369 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: he basically agrees, Okay, we're going to pay up front now. 370 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: And when Auto goes to say, no, don't do that, 371 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: he says, well, we need he He kind of talks 372 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: over him and says, you know, the small folk are 373 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 2: integral to our wartime victory. And Auto is like, oh, yeah, 374 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 2: you're right, and he turns around. 375 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 3: Laris Egon, why' is he winning so many He's winning 376 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 3: so many points from me right now? He's awful, but 377 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 3: he's just he's doing the right thing. 378 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: He is. 379 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: Laris then pulls the king aside and not really suddenly 380 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: at all, attempts to drive a wedge between the king 381 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: and Auto High Tower, who I'm sure Lari's views as 382 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 2: a rival years because. 383 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 3: He's trying to be handed the king. 384 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 2: Otto and Allison catch up. The Queen wants more support 385 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 2: from Otto and try to reign in the King and 386 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 2: Amon's worst instincts, a goal they both share along with 387 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: winning the war. And I think this is one of 388 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 2: again Alison's best moments in the series, where Otto basically goes. 389 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: You know what, you're right, You're right, you're right. I'll 390 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: stop doing that. 391 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 3: Because she is lunch. People underestimate her because she's just 392 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 3: like laysing around the palace getting eaten out by Kristen 393 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: Cole when her you know, her son just killed her 394 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 3: ex bestes like child. But I will say Allison has 395 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 3: learned to play the game, and we get to see 396 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 3: that here in such a Again, the show's just killing it, 397 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 3: expanding on Alison's character and building her up from this 398 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 3: kind of bit two dimensional villain into an actually complex character. 399 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 3: And I love that we're starting to see Otto maybe 400 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 3: realize that he doesn't have. 401 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 2: He needs her, I don't needs her, and I think 402 00:20:55,480 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 2: Otto realizes, like, yeah, I've lost control of this a 403 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 2: little bit. We didn't want full out war to break out, 404 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 2: and here is Luke, Rania's child getting murdered by us. 405 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: That's terrible. How do we come back from this? 406 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 2: I need all the allies I can get, That includes 407 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 2: my daughter Alison. During blockade activities, Eric Sir Eric and 408 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 2: the Valerian Navy discover Missari, who's trying desperately to flee 409 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: back east. They bring her to Damon on Dragonstone. She 410 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 2: reveals she has no allegiance to the Greens, but you 411 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: know it was working for them because it was a 412 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 2: business decision. And Damon throws her in the dungeons for treason, 413 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 2: and Damon is just generally like, not in a great mood. 414 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 2: Near returns, speaking of not a great Moodner returns to 415 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: Dragonstone with Luke's remains. Damon immediately is like, hey, did 416 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: you find what you need to find? She's like yes, 417 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 2: and he's like, okay, let's hit the riverlands. I will 418 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 2: go to Harron Hall establish our toll. Let's fucking go wartime, baby, 419 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 2: like it's happening, we're here. Renie is like, the blockade 420 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: is going great, what do you want to do? The 421 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: Queen utters The only line of dialogue in the entire unbelievable, 422 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 2: which is that she wants Aiman Targarian a prince for 423 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 2: a prince. 424 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: Now, let me just stop and say again, I believe 425 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: he is in the right. I love her. 426 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 2: Similar to my critique that I know it's hard, but 427 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: if you're the queen, you kind of can't disappear for 428 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 2: multiple days. 429 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: You gotta give a more detailed explanation. Yeah, exactly. 430 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 2: You can't just give an open ended name like with 431 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: no other directions and then walk away. 432 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 3: Especially because her words have massive impact. You can't just 433 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 3: say something like that without explaining it. It is going 434 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 3: to end up becoming a problem. We have had this 435 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 3: happen before, where you make a statement and somebody can 436 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 3: take it the way they want. Guess how you didn't 437 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 3: end up on the throne. It was because your dad 438 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 3: said something that was taken out of context, because nobody 439 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 3: had the context around it. And that is why Aggon 440 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 3: is now on the throne. You gotta I have to say, 441 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 3: Emma Dossi is so freaking good. 442 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: Like this, the heartbreak you feel, the emotion. 443 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, Emma Dossie is so good. That performance is incredible. 444 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: Damon takes that instruction and he runs with it without 445 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 2: checking with a queen or anybody. He goes to Masaria 446 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 2: and strikes a deal and it says, okay, let's here's 447 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 2: what we're gonna do. I will not execute you. I 448 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: will allow you to go wherever you want to s 449 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 2: us whatever. In return for intelligence, I need help getting 450 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 2: into King's landing and finding someone who can get into 451 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: the Red Keep and kill Amon Targariant. Jase returns with 452 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 2: news from his embassies to the North and the Veil, 453 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: and both of those regions have come to their side. 454 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 2: The Veil will want to Dragon to patrol the area. 455 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 2: We can work that out later. But of course both 456 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: he and his mother are devastated, shattered. I love this 457 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 2: scene at the news of Luke's death and they embrace 458 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 2: and it's it's very, very sad. 459 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: You get to see them as a family and a 460 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 3: mother and a son not involved in the Game of 461 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 3: Thrones at all. They don't in that moment. They're just broken, 462 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 3: And yeah, I thought that was really amazing. And my 463 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 3: favorite scene in the Hole show is actually coming up 464 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 3: next because it adds to my Allison bias. 465 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: So after this, the Luke's funeral takes place on Dragonstone 466 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 2: with Jace holding Raina, they cremate Luke's remains. Meanwhile, in 467 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 2: King's landing, Allison is lighting candles for all of the fallen, 468 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 2: and she lights a candle for Luke, which I think 469 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: is very well of Alison. 470 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 3: I just look. I know it's never gonna happen. I know, 471 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 3: even the smallest changes, as we are going to talk 472 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 3: about soon when we come to the end of this episode, 473 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 3: make people mad. They upset people, But I do they 474 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 3: have done such a good job adapting this book, which 475 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 3: is so depressing and nothing good is gonna come of it, 476 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 3: but I still end up when I watch scenes like that, 477 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 3: there is still a potential that feels like there could 478 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 3: be a hopeful ending, or that we would get Rinier 479 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 3: and Allison coming together and getting rid of all these 480 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 3: men who use them. It's not gonna happen, but that's 481 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 3: how good the writing is on this show, and how 482 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 3: good these subtle moments that Olivia Cook kind of presents 483 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 3: Alison as this more holistic human. Nobody's there to see 484 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 3: that She's not doing that for show. That's something that 485 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 3: matters to her, and I just thought that was such 486 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 3: a powerful moment. 487 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: So Damon seeks a sure using Missari's info, and he 488 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: locates a certain captain of the City Watch who hates 489 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 2: the high towers. Pays this guy a lot of money 490 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 2: to locate a rat catcher, who are paired together the 491 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 2: city Watch captain and the rat catcher to go into 492 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 2: the Red Keep through the famous Tunnels of Magor in 493 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 2: order to find and locate and kill Aimon Targarian. What 494 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 2: if we can't find him, they ask, and Damon has 495 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 2: no answer on screen, but we would imagine that he 496 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 2: says something like just to kill anybody you find, or 497 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: especially if it's a prince Laya. 498 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 3: We learn that. I think his exact words that we 499 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,479 Speaker 3: don't hear are like, no gold without a head, so 500 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 3: you'll get If there's a head, you get gold. If 501 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 3: there's not a head, you don't get gold. 502 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Aimond and Chris Cole are scheming. They're hanging out 503 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: in Amon's room scheming. They have an aggressive planet of attack. 504 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: This plan exists only in their heads, but they like, 505 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 2: we hit these little po dunk castles Rosby and Stokeworth 506 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 2: in the crown Lands, and we hit hair and Hall. 507 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: And we take the river Le. We win the war. 508 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 2: And they realize with frustration that no one wants them 509 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 2: to get involved, and Aimond is also pretty annoyed that 510 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 2: everybody's blaming him for starting it, which he did even 511 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 2: don't fuck up, Yes, I'm sorry you start started the 512 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 2: war again. 513 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 3: I'm really loving these moments of showing how young and 514 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 3: childish these people are who are supposed to be in 515 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 3: charge of the kingdom. It's literally like they're sitting in 516 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 3: there doing like armchair sports commentary, like oh, you could 517 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 3: do this and then you know, have him do a 518 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 3: layup and and yeah, and it would be really great. 519 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 3: It's like, you guys don't know what you're talking about. 520 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 3: You literally have no idea. Kristen Cole, don't even get 521 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 3: me started on you. You're still just out here chatting 522 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 3: mad shit on Reniera. You're just still bitter. 523 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: By the way. 524 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: Amond also thinks that Alison, his mother, is soft and reneera, 525 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 2: which I think is an ominous thing for him to 526 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 2: think and could be close real uh problems for Alison. 527 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: He says of his mother, her grace speaks with two tongues, 528 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: and Kristen call is like, no, no, she's only talking 529 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 2: with one tongue, Like. 530 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 3: How are they gonna so do they do? They do that? Okay, 531 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 3: so let me ask you this. Do the kids know? 532 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 3: Do the boys know that he is fucking the mom? Definitely? No? 533 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: What is the only people? Claris? That's it? Nobody else feel. 534 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 3: Like they would have. It's like funny because he's trying 535 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 3: to take on some like cool uncle roll like your 536 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 3: stepdad role, because I'm sure in his head he's like, 537 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 3: oh he's stepped up. Yeah, you know. He's like, let's 538 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,479 Speaker 3: get this war over with them. We could just go 539 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 3: sell some oranges and Dawn you can be my orange 540 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 3: selling children. No. 541 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: Otto comes to Amon's room, sees the boys hanging out 542 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: and is like, Chris Cole, go back to work. 543 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: You're fucking on the class. 544 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 3: He's like, what's wrong with you? Do you know what 545 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 3: the gold cloak is for? Like, do some fucking protecting? Yeah? 546 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: Are you clocked out? No, go to fucking work. Yeah. 547 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: And guess how he reads that situation. He does not 548 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 3: think he's meant to be during kids. 549 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: Well, he does go to work, but he. 550 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 2: Uh, Auto tells aimand stop planning ship stop, that we 551 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 2: need vgor at the capitol and that's it. 552 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: Okay. 553 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: Uh. Meanwhile, the city watchman blood and the rat catcher, 554 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: who we will call Cheese, even though that name is 555 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: never mentioned in the show, but that's the name in 556 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 2: the books. Blood and Cheese sneak into the castle and 557 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: after a little convincing, Cheese gets them to the upper 558 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: floors where the noble nobles live, where the royal family lives. 559 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: They have a whole different like a rat catcher Cadre 560 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 2: up there, but he would of which he's he's more 561 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,719 Speaker 2: of a general castle rat catcher. 562 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 3: So they're out there can just like walk around if 563 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 3: you got a rat catching trap. I listen, I didn't 564 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 3: think that's through. 565 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 2: Well, listen, may Goor's tunnels are just a secure you 566 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: risk as we have seen. You know, look no further 567 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 2: than Tirian killing Taiwan on the shitter spoiler for a 568 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 2: Game of Thrones using the using the tunnels, It's like the. 569 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 3: Tone is like giving Suwa yes, it's really just Sue's. 570 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 2: So then Cheese manages to locate Queen Helena, who is 571 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 2: in her room with the sleeping prince and Princess Jaehara. 572 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: Jeharis and Jahara can't tell them part they're twins, but 573 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 2: they eventually do, uh get Helena to tell them which 574 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: one is Prince Jeharis and we don't see anything happen 575 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 2: on screen, but the audio team really earns their grizzly 576 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 2: payday because the sound of this scene is horrible and 577 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: very detailed. Queen Helena flees with Jihara, flees into Alison's 578 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 2: room where she is in flagrante delicto with Christian Cole 579 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 2: riding that hobbyhole or she is riding them, and the 580 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 2: news is breaking, she says, as Christen Cole is covering 581 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 2: himself and Alison is like, Helena, doesn't she said she 582 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: doesn't care. She says, they killed the boy and we end. 583 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 2: What a shocking episode. 584 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: What a I didn't think they'd get to bloody. 585 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 3: I don't think they were blood and she's this early. 586 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 3: But it's a very interesting I think this is a 587 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 3: very interesting version of Blood and Cheese. I personally really 588 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 3: liked it. I've been dreading this sequence because it is 589 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 3: very gruesome. In the book, it's very much about torturing women. 590 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 3: They hogtie Queen Allison, they kill a chambermaid, they threaten 591 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 3: to rape baby Jahara. So for me, this is actually 592 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 3: a great example of how House the Dragon is learning 593 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 3: from the mistakes of Game of Thrones past, because there 594 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 3: is a different version of this where we would see 595 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 3: Alison hogtiede, we'd see a dead baby, we'd hear them 596 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 3: do those threats. Instead, I feel like they leaned into 597 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 3: the spense and they made it about Helena's choice, which 598 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 3: is obviously a key part of the books. Jason, let 599 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 3: me ask you a question. She doesn't she hasn't given 600 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 3: birth the baby Meyler yet right in the show, No no, 601 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 3: So that's what I thought. So it may not even 602 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 3: happen exactly. So in the book, there's three kids and 603 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 3: something that I know a lot of our discord users 604 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 3: and some viewers were annoyed about or like felt didn't 605 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 3: hit as much is in the book. She chooses Maela 606 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 3: because he's the youngest and she thinks he won't remember. 607 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 3: And then they killed Jaharis anyway, and Mayla has to 608 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 3: grow up knowing that the mum chose Mayla to die. 609 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 3: But I think here they still do a great job 610 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 3: with Helena's choice because she has the option to lie 611 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 3: about which kid is which, and she chooses Jaharah and 612 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 3: I think she doesn't want Jaharahs to become king. She's 613 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 3: seen what it has done to her family, and I 614 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 3: think in that moment she makes a choice because people 615 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 3: will just leave her in Jaharah alone. They're women nobody. 616 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 2: You raise a good point, which I think is that 617 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 2: there are two of changes, right from Fire and Blood. 618 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: There are changes that happen in between the pages. Right, 619 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 2: so Fire and Blood is written as a fictional history 620 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 2: from the perspective of several unreliable historians that we're living 621 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 2: in the world, some writing, most writing years after, but 622 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: a few with some contemporaneous accounts, And so there are 623 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 2: changes that happen that none of those unreliable historians quite 624 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 2: get right. 625 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: And we can think. 626 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: Of this as quote unquote the truth like Alison and 627 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 2: Christen Cole, that's really not in the books, so we 628 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 2: could assume, I guess if you're a book later, Hey, 629 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: I guess they maybe they got away with this. But 630 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: that's like a fun thing that doesn't really change the books, 631 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 2: but can happen and work within the books. And then 632 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 2: there are things that are pure changes, like like what 633 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 2: we're talking about here, where it's not you know, the 634 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 2: actual makeup of the king's families is different than it 635 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 2: was previously. And I think that one of the things 636 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 2: you're noting and we're noticing here is that it's very 637 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 2: possible that Fire and Listen, this is a story about 638 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 2: how this realm is biased against women, and the historians 639 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 2: that chronicle this realm are part of that. And I 640 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 2: think when you read Fire and Blood and watch the show, 641 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: one of the things I come away with is the 642 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 2: feeling that like, women get a real bad rap and 643 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 2: don't either get noticed in the histories or you know, 644 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 2: particularly rania Is will be like depicted as this, like raging, 645 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 2: like murderous shrew conniving, all this kind of stuff. And 646 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 2: so it's no surprise that the behavior of our queens, 647 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 2: our princesses is significantly different in the show and much 648 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 2: more flesh out, because they're the things they're doing are 649 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 2: either ignored by history or are framed in the worst 650 00:34:58,640 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 2: possible life exactly. 651 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 3: And I think for me, I actually wrote an article 652 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 3: about this on for IgM, which you can read. I 653 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 3: felt like this was one of the changes that makes 654 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 3: the show differentiate itself from Game of Thrones. I don't 655 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,439 Speaker 3: need to see a kid's head get calf, I don't 656 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 3: need to see Alison get humiliated again when this is 657 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 3: actually a much crueler fate for Allison than losing one 658 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 3: of her bed chamber maids, which, by the way, has 659 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 3: got to be like the most dangerous job in kingslanding. 660 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 3: Oh my god, to be a chambermaid, you're always getting killed. 661 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 3: So I didn't need to see that. I didn't need 662 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 3: to see Alison being humiliated and having to watch this 663 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 3: because really, now Allison has to live with the fact 664 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 3: that if Kristin Cole had been doing his fucking job 665 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 3: and not doing a job fucking her, that her grandson 666 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 3: and the heir could have lived. So I think this 667 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 3: is actually a very cool, interesting take. Also been very 668 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,720 Speaker 3: interested to see how people who haven't read the books 669 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 3: found it really shocking and horrific, and people who have 670 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 3: read it, I don't think it's bad enough, which I 671 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 3: think that's a really interesting that I caught me. 672 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: I agree. 673 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 2: Can't wait to talk more about this show. We will 674 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 2: of course be covering House of Dragon on a week 675 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 2: to week basis, so stay tuned. Welcome to another edition 676 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 2: of the Omnibus, where lore, analysis and understanding come together 677 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 2: today to talk about that wonderful new intro new animated 678 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 2: intro for season two of House of the dragon. The 679 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 2: tapestry depicted there in the intro gives us a targarian 680 00:36:53,239 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 2: centric history of the family and its origins in Old Volley, 681 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 2: which was a region of Esauce the Eastern Continent that 682 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 2: was filled with volcanoes and was the home to the 683 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 2: dragon lords, the Valerian dragon lords that then went out 684 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 2: to dominate the Eastern Continent. So the tapestry starts with 685 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 2: a panel that appears to show I believe it to 686 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 2: be necromancers who are taming the dragons. Now exactly how 687 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 2: the Valerians tamed dragons and discover them is unclear. All 688 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,720 Speaker 2: of that was going swimmingly until the Doom of Valaria 689 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 2: that is depicted in a panel showing lightning coming from 690 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 2: the volcanoes and coming down from clouds and dragons of 691 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,439 Speaker 2: flame falling out of the sky. The earth cracked open 692 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 2: the Doom of Valeria. It is described as essentially a 693 00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 2: chain of explosions emanating from the volcanoes that consumed the 694 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 2: entire region, all of the nation of Valeria. Why this happened, 695 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 2: perhaps the necromancers were dabbling with magic that they could 696 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 2: not control. Whatever the case may be, everybody and everything 697 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:23,240 Speaker 2: in Valeria was wiped out and the region was cast 698 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 2: into a toxic darkness that continues to this day. We 699 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 2: saw in Game of Thrones Tyrian travel to the kind 700 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 2: of edges of old Valeria where Stonemen people with various 701 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 2: illnesses reside, and it's a cursed area. Nobody goes there anymore. 702 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 2: The Targarians, however, escaped, and we see in another panel 703 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 2: the migration of the Targarians. They migrated because, as we 704 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 2: have seen in this both seasons of House of the Dragon, 705 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 2: the Targerians are touched by the gift of prophecy. Helena 706 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,760 Speaker 2: has uttered many prophetic statements, although no one has noticed 707 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 2: as of yet. And it was a ancestor of this family, 708 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 2: Danis the Dreamer who had a dream that something terrible 709 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 2: would befall Valeria, would be destroyed and everyone there would die. 710 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 2: And so she convinced her family that they needed to 711 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 2: move west, and they packed up all their dragons, all 712 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 2: their servants, all their belongings. They moved west and they 713 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 2: settled on Dragonstone, which was at that time the westernmost 714 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 2: outpost of the Valarian Empire, and they alone, of. 715 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: The Dragon Lord, survived. 716 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 2: Then we see Egon's conquest a panel depicting Egon's conquests, 717 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 2: of course, is a famous event. Eggon the conqueror set 718 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 2: out with his two sisters, and they conquered the entire 719 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 2: kingdom of Westros, the entire continent, excuse me of Westros, 720 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 2: because of the power mainly of their three dragons, one 721 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 2: of which is still alive today. 722 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: By the way Vagar. 723 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 2: Now we see a battle of famous event part of 724 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 2: this conquest, the burning of Heron Hall. Hair in the 725 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 2: Black was an iron born king raider who had you know, 726 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 2: the ironborn are continuously raiding into the riverlands and the 727 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 2: coast in general, and the riverlands is often a very 728 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 2: fractious area, and hair in the Black was able to 729 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 2: put down roots there. He carved out a kingdom of 730 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 2: his own right there in the riverlands, and he enslaved 731 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 2: a lot of people in the popular in the region 732 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 2: to build his castle called Herron Hall, which you know, 733 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 2: we know of today as a ruin, but back then 734 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 2: it was you know, under construction for many decades, but 735 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 2: it was the biggest castle in the entire continent, and 736 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 2: all of Westros, like you know, dozens and dozens of 737 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,399 Speaker 2: hearths and many many halls and YadA, YadA YadA, and 738 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,760 Speaker 2: Hair in the Black sat in his fortress when Eggon 739 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 2: sent his messengers out saying, you know, ben the near 740 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 2: and become part of the United westros to dry and 741 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,760 Speaker 2: he was like, my huge, humongous, brand new castle. 742 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: Will protect me. 743 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 2: And of course it didn't, because you know, Egon came 744 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 2: down on it with fire and melted the castle around 745 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 2: Hair and the Black and his sons, and that is 746 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 2: depicted there in one of the panels. Then we see 747 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 2: another famous event from Egon's conquest, which is the surrender 748 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 2: of Torren Stark, the king in the North. This is 749 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:48,800 Speaker 2: the event that basically ended the war, basically ended Egon's 750 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 2: conquests and gave him control of the region. Then we 751 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 2: see this panel that shows a target Aia and we 752 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 2: can tell because of this the pale hair, the silvery hair, 753 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 2: Targarian king dead and bloody. 754 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: On the throne. 755 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 2: This is the end of Magor, the Cruel. Magor the Cruel, 756 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 2: the third Targarian king after Eggon and then Anus second 757 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 2: Targeer and king anus Ae Nys Targarian then came Megor 758 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:26,240 Speaker 2: magor usurped the throne. He was a despot. He ruled 759 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 2: by fear. He was very aggravated because he had issues 760 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 2: siring children and this really infuriated him. All his kids 761 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 2: were coming out deformed, and MegaR was like, I'm gonna 762 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 2: take multiple wives because I need to make a successor. 763 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: None of that happened. 764 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 2: Everybody hated him, and at the end of this tyranny, 765 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 2: Magor was discovered one day on the throne with the 766 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 2: blades of the throne impaled through his body. 767 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: How did this happen? Why did this come to be? 768 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: It's very mysterious. We don't know. 769 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 2: Of course, you can't avoid the metaphor itself, which is 770 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 2: very strong that the realm as an entity, you know, 771 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 2: rejected Magor and his evil depravity. So that's a really 772 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 2: cool moment to picted here in this tapestry. Then we 773 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 2: see something that we've seen already, that we saw early 774 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 2: in season one, the first thing we saw in season 775 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,320 Speaker 2: one of House of the Dragon. It's the Great Council 776 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 2: of one oh one, which occurred late in the old 777 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 2: King Jaharis the Conciliator's reign. He, like many a targarian 778 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 2: before and after him, had trouble, you know, finding a 779 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,800 Speaker 2: viable successor, and so towards the end of his reign, 780 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 2: he gathered all the lords and ladies together at Heron Hall, 781 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 2: which is the only place big enough to hold everyone, 782 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,760 Speaker 2: and they all voted on who would be the next 783 00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 2: ruler of Wests, and of course it's Visas Targarian one. 784 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,360 Speaker 1: Then we've got this wonderful. 785 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,760 Speaker 2: Image of the split, the black green split, that brings 786 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 2: us into the show proper. You see all the Green 787 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 2: side of the family sitting on one side of a table, 788 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 2: and then there's another table across, like a kind of divide, 789 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 2: and that's all the Black side of the family, the 790 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 2: Vernia side versus the high Tower side, auto High Tower 791 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 2: and Allison and her children. 792 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 1: And that brings us up to date. 793 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 2: Now what's really cool is this tapestry is clearly inspired by. 794 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: A real. 795 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 2: Thing, an actual tapestry that exists. This is the Bayou Chapestry, 796 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 2: nearly seventy meters long two hundred and thirty feet long, 797 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 2: and this tapestry depicts the events surrounding the Battle of 798 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 2: Hastings in ten sixty six, which was the battle in 799 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,320 Speaker 2: which William, Duke of Normandy, which is a region of France, 800 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,360 Speaker 2: conquered England and became King of England. It is, you know, 801 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 2: a very very early work of political propaganda. We don't 802 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 2: quite know who commissioned it and why, although there are 803 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 2: some strong theories, one of them being that it was 804 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 2: commissioned by Bishop Odo of Bayu, the half brother of 805 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 2: William the Conqueror, in order to tell his story. And 806 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 2: it is really really cool. Check it out, because there's 807 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 2: the Bayou Museum has a has all the panels of 808 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 2: the tapestry digitized and you can go in and you 809 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 2: can look at the tapestry meter by meter and it 810 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,720 Speaker 2: is super super cool. And that's it. 811 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 1: Let's go to the back matter. 812 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 2: We like to end the show with various kinds of 813 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 2: fast moving segments, and for this back matter, let's do 814 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 2: a scoreboard. Let's you know the so much of the 815 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 2: marketing around How's the Dragon has been about Team Black, 816 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,800 Speaker 2: Team Green, who's winning, but he think's winning? After this episode, Rosie. 817 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:11,240 Speaker 3: Okay, so quality of life wise, Alison is winning. Al winning. 818 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,919 Speaker 3: She is not worried about the war. She's got time 819 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,720 Speaker 3: to go and light a candle. She is not yet grieving. 820 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 3: She's getting pleasured by Kristen Cole, who I guess now 821 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,240 Speaker 3: is happy to be a lover. Oh okay, after all that, okay, 822 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 3: so and and I think that she is definitely living 823 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 3: the best life. Her family is intact, she's winning over 824 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 3: Otto like. She definitely is coming up top of the 825 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 3: odds for this episode. Uh Rania, I think you're right. 826 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,399 Speaker 3: They need to get some kind of coach in there 827 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 3: help her out. It's not Damon he is. Actually I 828 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,919 Speaker 3: would say Team Black is on the outs right now 829 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 3: because of Damon's stupid choice, because the can you imagine 830 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 3: the fallout that there is going to be. Because also 831 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 3: you can argue, you can argue that Aimond was a 832 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 3: kid who made a mistake and he couldn't control Vaga. 833 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 3: You cannot argue that the assassins went in there by 834 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 3: mistake and killed Harris. 835 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that. Listen again, I love my Blacks, 836 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 1: I love Raniera. You want more from the team that 837 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:08,479 Speaker 1: you're rooting for. 838 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 2: I very, very sadly have to say that Team Green 839 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 2: they have the better infrastructure. They have people in place 840 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 2: like Auto, like Amon Sadly, like Kristen Cole Sadly, who 841 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 2: are like Laris, who are good at their roles and 842 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 2: are doing it. Eggon is trying to do this that 843 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,720 Speaker 2: and the other bad thing. And there are multiple people 844 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 2: there who are like, no, don't do that, No, don't 845 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 2: do that. Here's a better way to do it. 846 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 1: Here's over. 847 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,760 Speaker 2: You go to the Black Small Council and it's headless. 848 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,280 Speaker 2: Raniera is gone. Damon is out there ordering people around. 849 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 2: Only Rayne, who's like, you're not king, you can't tell 850 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,240 Speaker 2: me what to do, is able to like resist him. 851 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 2: And he's out here running plays for himself and. 852 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 3: Actually giving Renee they should be giving Renee more power. 853 00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 3: Is working and what is the supply? 854 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 2: The fallout for this will remain to be seen. But 855 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,919 Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think Damon has I think 856 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 2: Damon has hurt Rania. And at the end of the day, 857 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:17,400 Speaker 2: the buck stops with Raniera. 858 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 3: Damon. 859 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 2: One thing we know about him is his key. He's 860 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 2: chaotic and unpredictable. Rania leaving town and and giving one word, 861 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 2: one name as a direction and then piecing out open 862 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 2: the door for Damon to affect this war in a 863 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 2: terrible way. And I just want Raniera and Team Black 864 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,240 Speaker 2: to get it together. And sadly it's Team. 865 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 1: Green on the scoreboard right now. 866 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 3: They are on the scoreboard right now. 867 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 1: In Thursday's episode of Extra Envision will highlights. 868 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 2: Some of this summer's most anticipated TV shows that don't 869 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 2: feature dragons or Triedie and of course we're diving into 870 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 2: the Acolyte episode four. 871 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: That's all for us, Thanks for listening. 872 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 2: X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Concepcion and Rosie 873 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:11,240 Speaker 2: Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Our executive 874 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 2: producers are Joelle Smith and Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising producer 875 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 2: is a Boo Zafar. Our producers are Carmen Laurent and 876 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 2: Mia Taylor. Our theme song is by Brian Basquez. 877 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 3: Special thanks to Soul Rubin and Chris Laude, Kenny Goodman 878 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:34,240 Speaker 3: and Heidi Our disco moderata