Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another episode of The Mark Moss Show,
Speaker 1: where we talk about the decentralized revolution, talking about the
Speaker 1: way the world is changing right before our very eyes,
Speaker 1: and we look at it through lens of politics, finance,
Speaker 1: and technology, of course. And you know, I like to
Speaker 1: bring to you some education to help you think and
Speaker 1: see things differently, some of the latest breaking news headlines,
Speaker 1: and try to bring to you some interesting people so
Speaker 1: you don't have to listen to me talk all the time.
Speaker 1: And that's what I have in store today. I have
Speaker 1: a guest on with me today. Her name is Emily Wilson.
Speaker 1: You might know her as Emily Saves USA. Wow, that's
Speaker 1: a that's a big handle, and I think she's doing
Speaker 1: her best to save the USA, So let's talk about that. Emily,
Speaker 1: thanks for joining me today, all right, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: You know, I was kind of telling you before we
Speaker 1: start recording. You know, I've been watching your account for
Speaker 1: a while. I was kind of brought to my attention,
Speaker 1: and I just love the way that you're just kind
Speaker 1: of I would say, I would say you're railing against
Speaker 1: or for common sense, which just doesn't seem to be
Speaker 1: so common anymore. And it seems like as the world
Speaker 1: has been changing rapidly, they're basically just kind of sucking
Speaker 1: the truth right out right and telling us there is
Speaker 1: no such thing as truth and two plus two is
Speaker 1: five and all these things, and you're kind of standing
Speaker 1: up in the face of that and just calling out
Speaker 1: bs on all of that. Why why are you doing that?
Speaker 1: So I've definitely am growing, so I continue to shift
Speaker 1: a lot of my beliefs. I went from super far
Speaker 1: left to super far right to now I'm just like
Speaker 1: all I care about the truth, and I feel like
Speaker 1: for me right now, basically I'm just trying to be
Speaker 1: the voice of reason on behalf of everyone who doesn't
Speaker 1: want to be like canceled and lose their jobs and
Speaker 1: careers and families and friends like I have for saying
Speaker 1: these things. But bottom line is, it's what everyone's thinking
Speaker 1: and what people believe, but for some reason, saying it
Speaker 1: out loud now you're like completely demonized. So I'm trying
Speaker 1: to switch into more of just speaking about the truth
Speaker 1: and also trying to bridge the gap between men and women,
Speaker 1: which weirdly now it's like the most toxic I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: But everything I'm saying is usually very factual, based in logic, reasoning,
Speaker 1: common sense, and the way we've behaved as a society
Speaker 1: for hundreds and thousands of years, which is the joke.
Speaker 1: It's like, am I really, you know, crazy? Or am
Speaker 1: I just a normal person from one hundred years ago?
Speaker 1: You're a normal person from like ten years ago. Maybe yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe not one hundred years ago. So that's that's interesting.
Speaker 1: So you went from the far left to the far right,
Speaker 1: so you got red pilled or radicalized somewhere in that.
Speaker 1: What was that that caused you to go from one
Speaker 1: to the other? Is it? Is it because everything shifted
Speaker 1: so far you just ended up on that side or
Speaker 1: did you? Were you exposed to something? There was this
Speaker 1: like a wakening moment that caught your eye. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean obviously this is like, you know, over a period
Speaker 1: of like being extremely red pilled over like two years.
Speaker 1: But basically what happened really was losing my job because
Speaker 1: of COVID. I was pretty far left most of my life.
Speaker 1: I mean I literally used to be one of those
Speaker 1: people that was like Trump is a racist and hates women.
Speaker 1: Even though I had no I can truly say as
Speaker 1: a liberal. The one thing is I was extremely uneducated.
Speaker 1: I never went to school, and I just didn't know
Speaker 1: what I was saying. I was just talking points that
Speaker 1: I was watching the TV. And then I lost my
Speaker 1: job due to COVID and so did you know, most
Speaker 1: of my family, basically my entire family. And then having
Speaker 1: like no job and nothing but time, I just decided
Speaker 1: for the first time in my life to educate myself
Speaker 1: and I started listening to people speak, which like back
Speaker 1: in the day it was like Cannas Ellen's bench Bureau,
Speaker 1: Matt Walsh still love Matt Walsh, and I just was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I really like what these people have to say.
Speaker 1: In bottom line, they're the only ones speaking out against
Speaker 1: the lockdowns, which has definitely taken my life away and
Speaker 1: living in Los Angeles especially I live in downtown. Like
Speaker 1: you know, during the riots and everything, I was in
Speaker 1: the heat of everything, and I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: this is crazy. So it pushed me far right then
Speaker 1: you go, both sides are nuts, and you go, so
Speaker 1: let's just go back to middle, which is where I
Speaker 1: am now. Yeah, yeahs interesting. You know that that's kind
Speaker 1: of the way that I see this. I talk about
Speaker 1: this decentralized revolution in the way like I talk about
Speaker 1: this pendulum that swings where basically the world swings towards
Speaker 1: more sensualization, which is you know obviously the WEF and
Speaker 1: the UN and the IMF and all of that, But
Speaker 1: then it gets too crazy and then it starts pushing
Speaker 1: people back the opposite way. And that's kind of where
Speaker 1: we're at, and that's kind of what your story is.
Speaker 1: And they're almost doing their own marketing for them. Like
Speaker 1: the more they get crazy, the more they push, the
Speaker 1: more people are pushing back. You said something that you
Speaker 1: want to talk about the truth now, the world that
Speaker 1: coming for him just had a big meeting in Davos
Speaker 1: a week ago or two weeks ago now, and like
Speaker 1: the main topic was disinformation. How do we save people
Speaker 1: from disinformation? So how do you know that you're speaking
Speaker 1: the truth and not just disinformation? Yeah, I mean, like
Speaker 1: I said, my truth usually just comes from a very
Speaker 1: common understanding. I'm also I think level had enough to
Speaker 1: believe that we really only Okay, I speak all my
Speaker 1: life experiences and what I see and the education I have.
Speaker 1: When I speak about things, it's usually an experience that
Speaker 1: happened to me here else. I don't really understand why
Speaker 1: people speak unless they've kind of gone through things. It
Speaker 1: just gives you a better understanding. But for me, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: the truth can you come from? Education? In general? Everything
Speaker 1: is biased. There really is no such thing as truth.
Speaker 1: It's just whatever we can come up with. But basically,
Speaker 1: at this point, if I see anything on social media
Speaker 1: or anything on TV or anything that's easily accessible, I
Speaker 1: assume it's a lie. Just default to that. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: then I do my own education and my own research,
Speaker 1: and I come to what I think is the truth.
Speaker 1: And then I you know, I preach that, but I
Speaker 1: do try as hard as I can, and I spend
Speaker 1: a pretty insane amount of time every day just researching
Speaker 1: the things that I'm talking about and finding the best
Speaker 1: information I can. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I'm an idiot and I don't really know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about either. So but that's actually a good angle
Speaker 1: to come from, right. It's that humility standpoint, right, which
Speaker 1: is like, hey, I don't know, let me go investigate this,
Speaker 1: let me learn, let me keep it open mind, as
Speaker 1: opposed to having this closed mind where your mind's already
Speaker 1: made up. So I think that's a good point. What
Speaker 1: do you think about this whole war on disinformation then, right,
Speaker 1: really it's about censorship. Yeah, you know, from my standpoint,
Speaker 1: it's like they know that their ideas can't stand on
Speaker 1: their own, they can't stand up to open, intellectual, honest debate,
Speaker 1: and so the only chance they have is to shut
Speaker 1: the other side down. You came from the left and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden started hearing viewpoints on the right
Speaker 1: and go, wait a minute, that sounds more logical, That
Speaker 1: sounds more common sense than what I've been believing. And
Speaker 1: so when you listen to the two ideas, the two viewpoints,
Speaker 1: it really really brought around your viewpoint on that. So
Speaker 1: do you think that's part of the reason why they're
Speaker 1: trying to use this term disinformation, just to shut that down,
Speaker 1: knowing that their ideas can't stand up on their own. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course. The one thing you'll see when you see interviews,
Speaker 1: especially with the left, is they're truly an uneducated group
Speaker 1: of people. The crazy thing about being a conservative or
Speaker 1: Republican is you are held to an insane standard. When
Speaker 1: I go into anything and I have arguments, I mean
Speaker 1: I have to be ready with every fact, every source,
Speaker 1: every link, Whereas if you're on the left, you can
Speaker 1: just say whatever you want and you don't ever need
Speaker 1: to back it with any information. The reason they can't
Speaker 1: have You'll notice you will never see someone on the
Speaker 1: left agree to go on someone on the rights podcast
Speaker 1: because bottom line, they don't know what they're talking about.
Speaker 1: Their information is false, and we actually have to put
Speaker 1: in the work. And so the thing is they're going
Speaker 1: to shut down everything they can because when people realize
Speaker 1: the truth, they I mean people have realized enough truth
Speaker 1: right now they should be rioting in the streets because
Speaker 1: it's awful. We were lied to about a lot of things.
Speaker 1: And the thing is, the only way you can make
Speaker 1: you can truly manipulate the population is by shutting down
Speaker 1: one side. And that's the thing. When I started listening
Speaker 1: to these people, I was like, no, I kind of
Speaker 1: like what they have to say, and I want to
Speaker 1: hear a lot of what they have to say. And
Speaker 1: all my favorite people are by far the most controversial
Speaker 1: people on the planet. But as soon as you shut
Speaker 1: down a conversation, I assume you are uneducated, uninform and
Speaker 1: you know deep down morally that you are wrong, or
Speaker 1: else you would have no problem. I speak to people
Speaker 1: across every spectrum I don't judge based on that. It
Speaker 1: certainly it goes from a you know, an intellectual debate
Speaker 1: to more of a emotionally charged debate. And once they
Speaker 1: take it to that emotionally charged side, I mean, there's
Speaker 1: just there's there's no discussion there. It's like it's it's
Speaker 1: all about emotions. It's already their mind's already made up,
Speaker 1: and so you can't have that honest, open discussion on that.
Speaker 1: It's certainly a thing you talked about if people really
Speaker 1: knew they'd be riding in the streets. We hear about
Speaker 1: this time, you know, all the time, like the silent majority,
Speaker 1: of the silent majority, the silent majority. Why are they
Speaker 1: so silent? You know you talked about people are afraid
Speaker 1: to speak your mind, and so you're doing that for them.
Speaker 1: It's interesting where, you know, just a few generations ago
Speaker 1: World War Two, we had you know, teenage boys storming
Speaker 1: the beaches of Normandy getting killed left and right, and
Speaker 1: yet they kept running forward. And today people are afraid
Speaker 1: to even say something because somebody may think something bad.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. If you're just tuning in, you're listening to
Speaker 1: the Mark Moss show, I'm talking with Emily Saves USA
Speaker 1: Emily Wilson. We're talking about her journey from the left
Speaker 1: to the right and what she's doing to save the USA.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk at about a lot more of that,
Speaker 1: some ideas that she has that I want to get into,
Speaker 1: and a whole lot more. You don't want to miss it,
Speaker 1: don't go away. I'm gonna be right back after a break.
Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. If you just tune in, you're
Speaker 1: listening to the Mark Moss Show. We're sitting down with
Speaker 1: guest Emily Wilson. Her social media handle is Emily saves
Speaker 1: us A check her out. It's got some pretty interesting
Speaker 1: comment and she is definitely not one to hold back
Speaker 1: what her viewpoints are. And I love it. I think
Speaker 1: the world is really recognizing that. You Know, one thing
Speaker 1: that I'm seeing is that in a world where people
Speaker 1: are afraid to speak, I would say their truth, you know,
Speaker 1: how they truthfully feel, things have gotten very plain, very vanilla.
Speaker 1: And the few people that are willing to stand up
Speaker 1: and say that, it's almost like they've just taken a
Speaker 1: vacuum and just sucked truth out. And for the few
Speaker 1: people that are willing to stand up, the Jordan Peterson's
Speaker 1: the Joe Rogans, you know, even like an Andrew Tate.
Speaker 1: Whether you like what they're saying or not, you recognize
Speaker 1: they're saying what they believe to be true, and people
Speaker 1: respect that, and it's very polarizing. It pulls a lot
Speaker 1: of people in, but it also pushes an equal amount
Speaker 1: of people away, and I think the world you can
Speaker 1: just see how much the world needs that today, as
Speaker 1: people like that are just constantly just rising to top.
Speaker 1: So good on you for that now, Emily, what caught
Speaker 1: my attention was something that you had said, You're living
Speaker 1: in LA. I live in Orange County, the next county down,
Speaker 1: and it is like a completely different world. I try
Speaker 1: not to get to La as very often. I try
Speaker 1: to stay away from there. When I was younger, I
Speaker 1: used to go to LA all the time and LA
Speaker 1: was a great, great time. But who after the whole
Speaker 1: COVID pandemic it changed anyway. So you're living there, it's
Speaker 1: kind of a crazy down. It's like a different world
Speaker 1: away from where I live. It's probably from people that
Speaker 1: I know still in LA. It's it's probably very difficult
Speaker 1: for somebody like you, with your political leanings and to
Speaker 1: get along there and you were talking about the problems
Speaker 1: that you even have, like going to get coffee, and
Speaker 1: some ideas that you had of maybe ways to affect change.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about some of that. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I'm a very rare breed. I live in
Speaker 1: like I live and hang out in the most liberal
Speaker 1: parts of Los Angeles I have for a very long
Speaker 1: time now. I think I've been in downtown like six
Speaker 1: years now. And when I started, I was a conservative
Speaker 1: commentator on Newsmax for a while, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I've been wearing like Republican conservative MAGA gear for literally
Speaker 1: two plus years now, Like I was literally known for
Speaker 1: hiking with like MAGA hats on every day. And it's
Speaker 1: kind of crazy because I'm just I've been talking about
Speaker 1: what I want to do for years, and I'm just
Speaker 1: like the way you're treated. I mean I've been I
Speaker 1: was banned from like ninety percent of stores in Silver
Speaker 1: Lake for not wearing a mask, not complying, and you know,
Speaker 1: as soon as you're wearing something MAGA, they literally will
Speaker 1: deny you service, which is so funny because you know
Speaker 1: they're the party of loving and tolerance and finally a
Speaker 1: right I was like, I've been talking for years about
Speaker 1: this because I spend a lot of time in Beverly Hills,
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, I have a
Speaker 1: lot of respect for kits and Kitson has been incredible
Speaker 1: with like supporting police, exposing crime and corruption and all
Speaker 1: these things, and I think people support him because of that.
Speaker 1: And now I'm at the point where I'm like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I want the first proud conservative republican open minded, liberty,
Speaker 1: libertary and whatever it is coffee shop in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: So that is what I basically want to start working on.
Speaker 1: A place you can go. You don't you're not wearing
Speaker 1: a mask, you don't need to, you know, have nine
Speaker 1: boosters to get in. You can simply come in and
Speaker 1: you can say whatever you want. I would like to,
Speaker 1: you know, raise funds for you know, protecting children's schools,
Speaker 1: helping elderly, supporting our police. And so that is going
Speaker 1: to be something that eventually I'm going to start working on.
Speaker 1: I love that, And like I said, that's what caught
Speaker 1: my eye because it's something that I've been pound on
Speaker 1: the table on as well, which is that unfortunately are
Speaker 1: vote at the polls doesn't mean that much anymore. It's
Speaker 1: and we won't get into all of that, but I
Speaker 1: think most people realize that we're not going to vote
Speaker 1: our way out of this. Yeah, and I believe that
Speaker 1: our most important vote is with our money. We should
Speaker 1: vote with our money. The problem is that we don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of entrepreneurs that have stepped up to
Speaker 1: allow us to vote with our money. So we're stuck
Speaker 1: with just our you know, we're stuck with Starbucks or whatever,
Speaker 1: or we're stuck with Disney, or we're stuck with whatever.
Speaker 1: But then you do have you're starting to see it,
Speaker 1: just starting to see it. Where you have the Ben
Speaker 1: Shapiro's now a daily wire, they're trying to kind of
Speaker 1: counter some of that information. Right. My best example is
Speaker 1: what Ben Shapiro did with that He was sponsored by
Speaker 1: Harry's Razors and they started Jeremy's Razors, right, and the
Speaker 1: motto is like, stopped giving your money to WoT corporations
Speaker 1: that hate you, and they just made a new razor.
Speaker 1: And it's like, we just need entrepreneurs that will step
Speaker 1: up give people an option to vote with their money.
Speaker 1: So like a coffee shop for example, And then what
Speaker 1: happens is then if that were to pull enough business
Speaker 1: away from Starbucks or whatever other coffee shop there, maybe
Speaker 1: the other ones would take notice and they'd go, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, dang, I think there's a need for this,
Speaker 1: Like maybe we should start to pivot over as well. Right,
Speaker 1: But I think you and I both know the demand
Speaker 1: is there. But if we could just get a couple
Speaker 1: of entrepreneurs to step up fill that need, then I
Speaker 1: think you could drag the rest of the market over.
Speaker 1: So I love the idea. Anybody that's interested in investing
Speaker 1: in a coffee shop in La hit up Emily on
Speaker 1: social media Emily Saves USA. But I think it's a
Speaker 1: great idea, And what I'm trying to encourage is entrepreneurs
Speaker 1: or want to be entrepreneurs to step up and fill
Speaker 1: that void across a whole range of products. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, a coffee shop is just one thing. My
Speaker 1: thing is like so, I mean, I'm really picky and
Speaker 1: bougie with my coffee and my match and all that
Speaker 1: in very ill life. So it's like all the all
Speaker 1: the places I go to have treated me so horrible
Speaker 1: for so long, and I'm like, i'd why do I
Speaker 1: want to give my money to people that hate me.
Speaker 1: These people literally I'm everything they despise, and I'm spending
Speaker 1: god knows how much money there and I'm i can. Also,
Speaker 1: I want a place for a community. There's a reason,
Speaker 1: like I want to open the coffee shop in Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1: Obviously people are a lot wealthier. I think they're generally
Speaker 1: more conservative, and I think it's more family based, so
Speaker 1: therefore they kind of have those values, kind of like
Speaker 1: Newport Beach in Orange County, which is I'm from Newport
Speaker 1: Beach and I grew up in Seal Beach, So it's like,
Speaker 1: for me, the most important thing is to start there.
Speaker 1: But I want it to be a community. I want
Speaker 1: chairs outside where people can sit, they can be comfortable,
Speaker 1: they're safe, and they can say whatever they want. Because
Speaker 1: when I'm in coffee shops, I'm waiting to get kicked
Speaker 1: out because of the way I speak and my opinions,
Speaker 1: and it's not comfortable. And yeah, I'm why are we
Speaker 1: giving companies and people that hate us money? It makes
Speaker 1: no sense. Yeah, we're given them the money and then
Speaker 1: they're using that money that we gave them against us,
Speaker 1: right against what we want. And so we have to
Speaker 1: stop that. That's one of the things I've been talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously with the World Recoming Forum and Cloud
Speaker 1: Schwab and what he's pounding the table on is called
Speaker 1: this public private partnership, and he says that we should
Speaker 1: get rid of democracy and we should have this public
Speaker 1: private partnership where basically the corporations and the government's work
Speaker 1: together and they control everything. And the part that he's
Speaker 1: missing is that the corporations don't control us. We control
Speaker 1: the corporations because we're the shareholders of the corporations and
Speaker 1: the person run the corporation as a fiditiary duty to
Speaker 1: grow that business, and they need customers in order to
Speaker 1: grow the business, and so we're the customers, we're the shareholders,
Speaker 1: and so we have the power. The problem is that
Speaker 1: we just again we don't have the entrepreneurs stepping up
Speaker 1: to give people those options. But I love that idea,
Speaker 1: especially to your point about the community side of things,
Speaker 1: especially living in a place like La. I mean, the
Speaker 1: coffee shop is supposed to be that sort of community
Speaker 1: hub and you're supposed to have conversation, but in La
Speaker 1: it's really hard, like who can you talk to your
Speaker 1: point you can't and well that could have that kind
Speaker 1: of a good draw I like that idea. If you're
Speaker 1: just tune in, you're listening to the markmas Show. We're
Speaker 1: talking about the decentralized Revolution, talking about the way the
Speaker 1: world is changing. We're going from a very very very
Speaker 1: centralized world to a decentralized world. I'm joined in studio
Speaker 1: with Emily Wilson. You can find her on Twitter and
Speaker 1: Instagram at Emily Saves USA, and she's trying to save
Speaker 1: the USA by bringing common sense and people speak in
Speaker 1: their mind back to the mainstream, which is something that
Speaker 1: we definitely need have. We got a couple more stories
Speaker 1: that I want to talk about with Emily. When we
Speaker 1: come back, we have to take a quick break. We'll
Speaker 1: talk more about the way this world is changing, the
Speaker 1: way freedom is under attack, and the ways that we
Speaker 1: can push back and try to secure freedom for future generations.
Speaker 1: So we got all that and more to cover when
Speaker 1: we come back in a minute. Don't go away, We
Speaker 1: are back, all right, Welcome back. If you just tune in,
Speaker 1: you're listening to the Mark Moss Show. We talk about
Speaker 1: the decentralized revolution. As we look at through the lens
Speaker 1: of politics, finance, and technology to see the way it's
Speaker 1: changing the world. And I'm joined in studio today with
Speaker 1: Emily Wilson of Emily Saves USA. You can find her
Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram. And warning, just warning, she's gonna
Speaker 1: say some things that might offend you because she's going
Speaker 1: to speak her mine and that's a good thing. We
Speaker 1: should all be speaking our mind, you know. I believe
Speaker 1: that the truth is found through open and honest discussion.
Speaker 1: If someone's an idiot or someone's super hateful, they should
Speaker 1: say that stuff and they should be exposed and we
Speaker 1: should know that. You know, Emily, you're a little bit younger,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure you've seen how fast things are shifting.
Speaker 1: You know. For me, I'm old enough to have remembered
Speaker 1: a world when we still lived under a Cold War,
Speaker 1: we still had the Berlin Wall up in Germany, and
Speaker 1: it was shocking to me. A couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: I've been my main YouTube channel, I've had it out
Speaker 1: for over four years, and it was shocking to me
Speaker 1: when all of a sudden, I was making a video
Speaker 1: and I found myself censoring myself. I was like, whoa wait,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, what am I doing here? Not because
Speaker 1: I'm afraid to speak my truth. It's because I don't
Speaker 1: want to get my channel shut down. It's a little
Speaker 1: bit different, but it was shocking to me that it happened.
Speaker 1: But you know, I saw a couple of reports out
Speaker 1: this week that I thought were pretty interesting. I kind
Speaker 1: of want to bring to your attention. One of them
Speaker 1: is that the US plummets in the annual freedom ranking,
Speaker 1: and so the US, the Land of the Free, actually
Speaker 1: ranks twenty third in the world in free countries. What
Speaker 1: do you think about that? I mean, one I think
Speaker 1: freedom is it's a delusion. It's not necessarily something tangible.
Speaker 1: In my eyes. Here's the I feel like I live
Speaker 1: a mostly free life. I'm myself, I say what I want.
Speaker 1: I don't let people censor me. I live a truly
Speaker 1: free life in general. If you want to go into
Speaker 1: a deeper and you want to talk statistics, yes, we
Speaker 1: are not a free country. And I would say since
Speaker 1: Trump has been out of office, we have declined in
Speaker 1: freedom the fastest. I've never seen a country fall this fast.
Speaker 1: It's really heartbreaking to see the current administration, who I
Speaker 1: believe are just made up of pure socialists at this point,
Speaker 1: are definitely taking away our freedom. So it does not
Speaker 1: surprise me that we surprises me. We're even that high
Speaker 1: up at this point when you say it's an a loop,
Speaker 1: it's not tangible. I guess maybe I would ask you,
Speaker 1: like what your definition of freedom is, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: I would say, for me, the definition of freedom is
Speaker 1: freedom of constraints, So either people or circumstances that hold
Speaker 1: me back from being able to choose or direct my
Speaker 1: life as I see fit. So I guess freedom of constraints.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you don't think that's tangible or
Speaker 1: do you have a different viewpoint of what freedom necessarily?
Speaker 1: I guess it just depends, like if we're talking like
Speaker 1: things we can see or it's a feeling. I don't know.
Speaker 1: For me, it's like I feel like I live a mostly, yeah,
Speaker 1: completely free life, but at the same time, it's obviously
Speaker 1: not completely free because if we had true one hundred
Speaker 1: percent freedom, I could go online and say whatever I
Speaker 1: want to say and not be taken off every single account.
Speaker 1: So it's like for me, it's like, yeah, I have
Speaker 1: like what sixty percent freedom compared to a lot of
Speaker 1: places where people have basically none. A lot of people
Speaker 1: ask me, like, Mark, why are you still living in
Speaker 1: Kami FORGNYA. Right, we set up a ranch in Texas,
Speaker 1: so we have cows and goats in Texas. Now we
Speaker 1: have a house in Mexico and like, you know, we're
Speaker 1: getting ready to make some moves here. But like, why
Speaker 1: would you still live in comedy Fournia? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: the reality is none of it affects my life, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Newsome is Newsom is a dictator. Yeah, when people ask
Speaker 1: why I still live here, genuinely, it is one of
Speaker 1: the dumbest questions you could ever ask. Oh, yeah, I
Speaker 1: hate living around. Oh I don't know the best food,
Speaker 1: the most beautiful beaches, the best people. It's like, dude,
Speaker 1: there's a reason why we pay so much money to
Speaker 1: live here. There's a reason why all the billionaires in
Speaker 1: the world have a house in Los Angeles. It's not
Speaker 1: because it sucks, because it's pretty great when you look
Speaker 1: over the other things which will change. Yeah, And so
Speaker 1: to your point, I mean, it is sort of like
Speaker 1: a spectrum. And to your point, it kind of affects
Speaker 1: us all differently. So as restrictive as Gavin Newsom is
Speaker 1: and all the laws, he continues to put in place,
Speaker 1: and as bad as it looks on paper, like the
Speaker 1: day to day, like our lives aren't really affected by it, right, Oh,
Speaker 1: I like what was the most effective? Like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: had to like stay home and like certain places. Maybe
Speaker 1: it like it's all gone now. I mean you can
Speaker 1: relatively go back to a normal life now. If you're
Speaker 1: choosing to still do those things, that's on you. But
Speaker 1: I went out during the whole pandemic. I traveled, I partied,
Speaker 1: I did I went out to eat in restaurants. I
Speaker 1: drove all the way to Orange County to support every
Speaker 1: single establishment that stayed open. So guess what I chose
Speaker 1: as an adult, Like we all had a choice to
Speaker 1: not stop living my life and weigh out the consequences.
Speaker 1: So for people here that didn't do that, that's not
Speaker 1: my problem. Yeah, I think you know, so I think
Speaker 1: there's there's like that personal side, like that personal freedom side,
Speaker 1: but then there's like other areas, so for example, like
Speaker 1: economic freedom. So try to start that coffee shop and
Speaker 1: then see see how your economic freedom works. Right, Like
Speaker 1: can you get the permits? Oh you're a conservative? Oh
Speaker 1: you said these things online, Maybe we don't give you
Speaker 1: your permit to open up here. Right, Oh, maybe we
Speaker 1: don't give you your merchant account so you can accept
Speaker 1: credit cards anymore. Right, you pay a high rate, So
Speaker 1: then you start to really see where that kind of
Speaker 1: economic freedom comes in. You know, Dan Bongino, he had
Speaker 1: he set up a new company for credit card processors
Speaker 1: just because so many people, so many conservative people, aren't
Speaker 1: even able to accept credit cards anymore. Yeah. And the
Speaker 1: crazy thing too, is like I I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: ignorant all these things. I know. I just got accepted
Speaker 1: into a seat in my local city council, and I
Speaker 1: will work my way up all the way I can't
Speaker 1: like as far as I can. And you know I've
Speaker 1: already been told just get ready. They will do every
Speaker 1: single thing in their power. They will take every single
Speaker 1: thing you say, use everything against you, and they'll never stop,
Speaker 1: which is great because I never will either. So let's go.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, I've never really taken like trying
Speaker 1: to run for politics seriously, but I've thought about it before.
Speaker 1: And you know, in my younger days, I might have
Speaker 1: done some things that might not be ideal for a politician, right,
Speaker 1: And I always thought, like, man, I probably have too many,
Speaker 1: you know, skeletons in my closet or whatever. If people
Speaker 1: dug this up on me, you know, they'd smear me.
Speaker 1: I would never be able to run for politic. But
Speaker 1: then you look at the people getting elected today and
Speaker 1: the stuff they have going forward. I'm like, oh, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, Like I'm a saint compared to these guys
Speaker 1: we've elected, like criminals. These are like the worst people.
Speaker 1: They have like the worst track records. Every new person
Speaker 1: on the left and right, might I add I see
Speaker 1: that gets elected. I go, oh good, her and her
Speaker 1: husband like like beat strangers every weekend. I'm glad she
Speaker 1: has an opinion on what's happening in the country. I'm
Speaker 1: like Jesus, I know it. Tons of normal, great people,
Speaker 1: but they don't want to go into politics. They don't
Speaker 1: want their lives room, which I understand. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to win. I'm trying to have a voice and help
Speaker 1: other people and their lives and their businesses and protect
Speaker 1: people because I'm not going anywhere. I'm not leaving Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: I'm not leaving California. And if no one speaks out,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to watch my city crumble around me
Speaker 1: and bottom line. They can only silence me for so
Speaker 1: long when I have, you know, following them, people that
Speaker 1: support me, and it's I'm only running to expose all
Speaker 1: the corruption that they're doing. It's not from my personal gang.
Speaker 1: I would never want that job, So you don't really
Speaker 1: want it. You're not hoping that you win. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: take that. I mean, that's nothing. It's probably awful. It's
Speaker 1: probably the worst job ever. Well, what happens if you win? Oh,
Speaker 1: I guess if I win, then I have to take
Speaker 1: that responsibility. And if I can help people and help
Speaker 1: the city and make some progress, then I would do that.
Speaker 1: You'd said earlier that the extreme left and then maybe
Speaker 1: the extreme right. They're both extreme, and so you're kind
Speaker 1: of back in the more in the middle. Do you
Speaker 1: look at maybe both sides of extreme being almost equally
Speaker 1: as bad. I mean, they're both sides wanting to tell
Speaker 1: us what to do and be dictators and controls, just
Speaker 1: in different ways. Yeah, this is a really this is
Speaker 1: an interesting subject to me because, as you said, me
Speaker 1: and my father talked about all the time, the world
Speaker 1: swings on a pendulum, and what we're seeing right now
Speaker 1: is the left has gone so mad and I hope
Speaker 1: it gets worse. I hope it gets a lot worse,
Speaker 1: because then it's gonna swing so far the other way.
Speaker 1: By nature, it's going to overcorrect itself, which is which
Speaker 1: is what nature does. And so right now, the thing is,
Speaker 1: I've seen the far left and the far right are
Speaker 1: the same. To me, they're both nuts. They don't make
Speaker 1: any sense, but they need each other to find a
Speaker 1: balance in the middle. I think that any normal person
Speaker 1: would agree with that. I don't really see myself in
Speaker 1: either of them. But the one thing I will say,
Speaker 1: I'm not a super religious person, but I do love
Speaker 1: listening to Dennis Prager once in a while. Me and
Speaker 1: my father have a lot of respect for that man.
Speaker 1: And I can say, with how many things I truly see,
Speaker 1: I believe when you get older, you have money, you
Speaker 1: have a business, you have a family of things to
Speaker 1: love you, you naturally become conservative. I will say at
Speaker 1: this point in time, and my opinions change every day.
Speaker 1: To be on the left is extremely demonic. It's I
Speaker 1: can't it's too much. It's really sick. It's genuinely filled
Speaker 1: with extremely mentally ill people and the things they stand
Speaker 1: for and the things I've seen voted on like like
Speaker 1: not giving healthcare to a baby that was like a
Speaker 1: mishap on an abortion, things like that. It's and very godless.
Speaker 1: It's to me, yea super demonic, can't get behind it.
Speaker 1: We gotta take a break here. If you're just tuning in,
Speaker 1: you're listening to the Mark Moss Show, I'm sitting down
Speaker 1: with Emily Wilson with Emily Saves USA talking about saving
Speaker 1: the USA. Of course we're back with more in a minute.
Speaker 1: Don't go away, we'll be right back. All right, Welcome back.
Speaker 1: If you're just tune in, you're listening to the Mark
Speaker 1: Moss Show. We talk about the decentralized revolution, the way
Speaker 1: the world is changing, and we're looking at through lens
Speaker 1: of politics, finance, and technology. Today we are sitting down
Speaker 1: with Emily Wilson of Emily Saves USA, talking about saving
Speaker 1: the USA by standing up, speaking your truth and trying
Speaker 1: to wake people up. And so Emily back to kind
Speaker 1: of what we were just talking about. You know, one
Speaker 1: thing that I wrestle with is that I'm for more
Speaker 1: freedom and less government. And I don't know what political
Speaker 1: party that that I fit into, and I don't really
Speaker 1: like all these labels, right, So it's like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm kind of Republican, but I don't really
Speaker 1: like most of the Republicans, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm really libertarian, Like can I just be left alone
Speaker 1: kind of a thing. I kind of like the way
Speaker 1: the Constitution set up the United States, Maybe we can
Speaker 1: go back to that. But I was looking at something
Speaker 1: like ron Da Santis. Now I like ron Da Santis,
Speaker 1: and sometimes I see him do stuff that goes man.
Speaker 1: I should almost moved to Florida so I could support
Speaker 1: Ronda Santis, right, But then he was doing some like
Speaker 1: press thing out this last week and he was saying
Speaker 1: how he's going to crack down on the Chinese Communist Party,
Speaker 1: the CCP, and he wants to make it so they
Speaker 1: can no longer buy land in Florida and things like that,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, like that's pretty good, Like we
Speaker 1: probably shouldn't have the CCPB buying farmland and strategic land
Speaker 1: around military bases. That sounds like pretty good, right, except
Speaker 1: for wait a minute, Like I believe that private property
Speaker 1: rights are the most important thing, and so like he's
Speaker 1: now telling me that I can't sell my own private property.
Speaker 1: I don't like that, right, So then I start looking
Speaker 1: at these things and I'm like, so, just because I
Speaker 1: happened to like that, he wants to crack down CCP,
Speaker 1: I like it, but he's actually taking away my freedom
Speaker 1: and my private property rights. And so that's kind of
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Like, even if I happened to
Speaker 1: maybe like it, it's still an authoritarian trying to create
Speaker 1: laws to take away my freedom right either way. And
Speaker 1: just because I happen to like it now doesn't mean
Speaker 1: somebody else I don't like won't take advantage that law later, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you're kind of, like I said, at this point,
Speaker 1: with every politician, everyone in charge, you are literally just
Speaker 1: choosing between the lesser evil. Because these people can only
Speaker 1: do so much. They have so many people around them
Speaker 1: that control them telling them what to do. That's what
Speaker 1: it is. You're just picking between what lesser evil you
Speaker 1: want to choose. First of all, I am all for
Speaker 1: banning China out of everything possible and especially not buying land.
Speaker 1: I'm super for that, but then again, yeah, how is
Speaker 1: that going to affect certain people and certain and our rights,
Speaker 1: Because like you said, I'm just very like stay out
Speaker 1: of my life, stay out of my business, and let's
Speaker 1: respect you know, the way the country was founded, because
Speaker 1: I think it worked pretty good for a very long
Speaker 1: time and still continues to work. But like I said,
Speaker 1: all these things are going to have positives and they're
Speaker 1: gonna have negatives. You just have to choose. My thing
Speaker 1: is like what's best for the country to protect us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw this other headline that came out this week
Speaker 1: said more people now cite that the government is the
Speaker 1: top us problem ahead of inflation. This poll went out
Speaker 1: and it moved the government being the problem from fifteen
Speaker 1: percent of the population to twenty one percent the top
Speaker 1: ranking problem. Which is interesting because it seems like a
Speaker 1: lot of times when you're talking to and again I
Speaker 1: hate the labels, but for what it is, this is
Speaker 1: a gallop poll. By the way, this is a this
Speaker 1: is a big respected poll. But I hate to use labels.
Speaker 1: But when you're looking at you talk to the left
Speaker 1: of the right or whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 1: the two different sides, and it's like it's almost like
Speaker 1: we could both agree that there's a problem, and even
Speaker 1: we could probably agree on the problem, but it's the
Speaker 1: solution to the problem. That we disagree on right where
Speaker 1: it's like, I think to this poll that it's government's
Speaker 1: involvement that's causing the problem, whereas this other side seems
Speaker 1: to think that more government is the answer. Like, we
Speaker 1: know this government's bad, but if we could just get
Speaker 1: more government it would fix it, or if we just
Speaker 1: get a better government that would be the answer. Is
Speaker 1: that insane? Yeah, well it is insane. The only people
Speaker 1: that are ever agreeing with more government are the less because,
Speaker 1: like I said, it's people who are like socialists. They
Speaker 1: want to literally turn their brain off. They want everything
Speaker 1: to be free, everything to be taken care of. And
Speaker 1: first of all, they've never been to a socialist country.
Speaker 1: It doesn't work. It's awful. That's why they're all dying
Speaker 1: quite literally to get into our country. Yeah. Like, first
Speaker 1: of all, I think what we're seeing right now is
Speaker 1: for the first time in America, people picked up a
Speaker 1: book on history. I don't know if they're reading orwell
Speaker 1: or what's going on, but I think that's what they're seeing.
Speaker 1: Oh shocker. The government's never been on our side and
Speaker 1: they never will. Yeah. I saw this week. The House
Speaker 1: passed a resolution on Wednesday announcing the horrors of socialism
Speaker 1: in a three twenty eight to eighty six vote. I
Speaker 1: don't really know what that means. I think it's a
Speaker 1: little bit of virtue signaling kind of a thing. But
Speaker 1: at least they're kind of like they're standing up. They
Speaker 1: passed a resolution which basically says it was a measure
Speaker 1: led by a Rep. Maria Elvira Salazar House Majority leader
Speaker 1: Steve Scalia from Louisiana, and basically it just said it
Speaker 1: just it denounced this. It was a resolution specifically denouncing
Speaker 1: past and present leaders ranging from Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin,
Speaker 1: and Nicholas Madaro from Venezuela. And it basically just kind
Speaker 1: of outlined how all the people died in the revolution
Speaker 1: in Russia, what happened through the USSR, through China, etc.
Speaker 1: And so kind of put a stamp on that. And
Speaker 1: so it's kind of to me is like it's the
Speaker 1: pendulum swinging back, as we kind of talked about her,
Speaker 1: like the turning of the corner, where like we've been
Speaker 1: on this massive path towards socialism or communism or whatever
Speaker 1: you want to call it, basically the same thing, and
Speaker 1: now we're starting to see all that pushback, and so
Speaker 1: to see this like House Resolution come out specifically and
Speaker 1: denounced that one, I think it's a sign of the
Speaker 1: times that we're starting to pivot back. It's also a
Speaker 1: little bit rich when we're sort of a socialist nation,
Speaker 1: you know. I I wrote a book I released the
Speaker 1: last August, multiple multiple best sellers. I'm gonna show it here.
Speaker 1: It's called the Uncommunist Manifesto. So I took the Communist Manifesto,
Speaker 1: rewrote it, and in the original Communist Manifesto, Carl Marx
Speaker 1: laid out ten points of communism. So in order to
Speaker 1: have communism, we have made these ten things. And if
Speaker 1: you take those ten things and then say does the
Speaker 1: United States have any of these ten things? As a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, yeah, we have seven of them. And
Speaker 1: so then it's like, well, then is a lot of
Speaker 1: people say, well, capitalism is the problem here. It's capitalism
Speaker 1: that's that's ruining everything. And it's like, well, are we
Speaker 1: capitalist or are we communist? Because we have seven of
Speaker 1: the ten points, like we're seventy percent of the way there. Yeah. Well, also,
Speaker 1: it all depends on who's benefiting from these things. It's
Speaker 1: you know, there's a certain demographic that goes to each
Speaker 1: of them, like of course, yeah, Like when you're an
Speaker 1: entrepreneur and you're independent, you're gonna love capitalism. When also
Speaker 1: when you're like lazy, you don't want to work, you
Speaker 1: just want to be told what to do, and all
Speaker 1: these things you don't want to ever no offense amount
Speaker 1: to anything. Then I think you're just going to lean
Speaker 1: towards socialism. But this country is definitely going in one
Speaker 1: specific direction. I think it's good to have a balance
Speaker 1: of everything though I don't want people starving. I want
Speaker 1: people to be able to afford to have a living
Speaker 1: and take care of themselves, and it should be things
Speaker 1: should be fair. Of two minutes left. One more question.
Speaker 1: I'd like to ask you because you're young, you're kind
Speaker 1: of leading this new batch of people your age, this
Speaker 1: new demographic, and as you kind of just said, it's
Speaker 1: easy for people who have lived under socialism to now
Speaker 1: see this and go no, no, we don't want this.
Speaker 1: For myself, as I was a kid growing up, we
Speaker 1: still had this Cold War, so I was taught that
Speaker 1: communism was really bad. I was taught that, but they're
Speaker 1: not being taught that today. So if you've come from
Speaker 1: that or you were taught that it's easy to see that,
Speaker 1: but your age demographic hasn't seen that, and your age
Speaker 1: demographic has mostly been taught that is the better path forward,
Speaker 1: it's humane and all these things. So what do you
Speaker 1: think is the is the key to like getting to
Speaker 1: people in your demographic to get them to wake up
Speaker 1: to this. I mean, I'm not gonna lie, Like, the
Speaker 1: only reason I woke up was because I chose to
Speaker 1: educate myself. Granted, I have an older father who's great,
Speaker 1: who has you know, been there for me along the
Speaker 1: way and helped me, and obviously learning from his experience
Speaker 1: is completely different. And also fighting to be in this
Speaker 1: country is going to give you a much different perspective.
Speaker 1: At this point in time, the only thing I could
Speaker 1: really like recommend to younger people, ironically, is to not
Speaker 1: go to school. School at this point, it's just you're indoctrination.
Speaker 1: They are not only teaching us to hate ourselves, they're
Speaker 1: teaching history completely incorrectly. And I'm not really sure what's
Speaker 1: going on or what the solution is, But the only
Speaker 1: thing I could say at this point is like, literally,
Speaker 1: schools are turning these kids into They're insane. These kids
Speaker 1: are nuts. They are the most uneducated group of people.
Speaker 1: You go, I mean you. They interview kids who are
Speaker 1: like getting degrees in history. They can't even name a date.
Speaker 1: They have no idea what's going on. They're like everything's racist.
Speaker 1: They don't understand, they have a no grasp on reality.
Speaker 1: It's terrifying to watch as someone who did not have
Speaker 1: a chance to do that. I think college is teaching
Speaker 1: you to memorize and recite things as opposed to thinking
Speaker 1: for yourself. So follow what she's saying and go think
Speaker 1: for yourself. Go do your own research. As we like
Speaker 1: to say. If you're just tuning in, you're listening to
Speaker 1: the Mark Mos Show, you've been listening to me talk
Speaker 1: with Emily Wilson of Emily Saves USA. Follower on Twitter
Speaker 1: and Instagram. If you want to get woken up, and
Speaker 1: that's what I got. Thanks for listening.