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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're always scrambling for a

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Speaker 1: last minute touchdown.

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Speaker 2: That could be Josh Allen, It could be Gino Smith,

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Speaker 2: it could be anyone. It could be me here in.

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Speaker 1: The Chris Westling podcast studio for your week eleven recap,

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Speaker 1: alongside Patrick Claybond Nick Shook, joining us from Cleveland where

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Speaker 1: the undefeated Cavaliers roam. And I thought this was a

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Speaker 1: fantastic Sunday of games. We had some headliners, but maybe

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Speaker 1: that's just because my agendas were fulfilled, because you seemed

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Speaker 1: more salty Patrick when I came into the into the

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Speaker 1: studio today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all things Greg vibes up and even I I

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Speaker 3: met one.

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Speaker 2: Ravens losses saw ruined your hoday.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't just that Greg, I picked a game that

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Speaker 3: I did not want to happen. I picked the things

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Speaker 3: I did not want to happen, and I lose both

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Speaker 3: ends of that. We'll talk about that coming up.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm looking forward to that. And and Nick, yes,

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Speaker 1: you're your NBA team is doing great. NFL team not

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Speaker 1: so much. But you can just kind of turn off

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Speaker 1: those emotions and now just enjoy the spectacle because you

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Speaker 1: actually were the one that was a signed to Ravens

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Speaker 1: Steelers early rare case orry where Patrick.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't get that big time game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a game that I wish was played

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Speaker 4: in primetime just because of the matchup, but be judging

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Speaker 4: by the final score and the result and how ugly

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Speaker 4: it was at times, I think it was deserving the

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Speaker 4: one PM slot.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So put a pin in that one. It's part

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Speaker 1: of the big block that we're starting the show with.

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Speaker 1: We always start with the best games, and there's no

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Speaker 1: other game to start with than Josh Allen versus Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: Bills and Chiefs in Orchard Park.

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Speaker 5: All Right, here we go, game on the line here

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Speaker 5: with the Bills up two and two, twenty seven left.

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Speaker 5: It's a fourth and two. For some late motion fakes

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Speaker 5: to throw Allen gonna step up in the pocket. Now

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Speaker 5: he's gonna take it and run and he's got the

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Speaker 5: first down the more.

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Speaker 2: Ten five and bustles his way into.

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Speaker 1: The end zone for an unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Twenty six star touchdown run. Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: We're not kidding you, Chris Brown of WGR one of

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Speaker 1: the moments of the season, no doubt, Josh Allen comes

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Speaker 1: back to pass.

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Speaker 2: They got a mess concept.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't planning to run, but he decides to run

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Speaker 1: and he's bouncing off defenders into the end zone. The

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Speaker 1: Bills get the victory, thirty to twenty one over the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: This is a rivalry that always delivers, and on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: the Bills delivered the Chiefs the first their first loss

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Speaker 1: of the entire season. Bill's got a chance here to

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Speaker 1: be the one seed in the AFC. They are flying

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Speaker 1: right now at nine and two, and the Chiefs they

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Speaker 1: were bound to lose eventually.

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Speaker 2: I guess you never know. They are at nine and one.

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Speaker 1: And yes, I think that play told us so much

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Speaker 1: about this rivalry, about where these two teams are at

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. Because Sean McDermott has evolved in

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Speaker 1: the past. Fourth down to twenty seven to go, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if Sean McDermott is going for it in

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Speaker 1: that situation, and it's one thing we've talked about on

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Speaker 1: this show from the very beginning of the season. They've

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Speaker 1: been extremely aggressive on fourth down. And one of the

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Speaker 1: theory they could have taken points. Meanwhile, they don't really

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Speaker 1: But he knows you need touchdowns patrick to beat the champs,

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Speaker 1: and he let his best player decide the game, and

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen decided.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fourth and two in a high leverage situation, and

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Speaker 3: as you mentioned, the Bills run mesh.

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Speaker 3: They let their generationally talented quarterback at a high leverage play

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Speaker 3: about another team that did not necessarily do that in

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Speaker 3: a high leverage situation. The off line not not salty

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Speaker 3: it's been forty four games. Greg has scored thirty points

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Speaker 3: in the regular season against the Kansas City Chiefs. That

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Speaker 3: I didn't know if the skill position players with the Bills,

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Speaker 3: with all the injuries, we're going to be able to

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Speaker 3: make this a game. They played spectacularly after catch.

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Speaker 1: They were awesome. Keon Coleman does not play in this game.

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Speaker 1: Dalton Kinkaid does not play in this game. And sometimes

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Speaker 1: it is just about your players showing up and playing

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Speaker 1: He gets a huge touchdown in the fourth quarter, and yes,

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Speaker 1: this Bills team ultimately beat a Chief squad. Nick that

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Speaker 1: I didn't think got a ton of pressure on Josh

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Speaker 1: a close game. But if you really break down the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, I thought the Bills won the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. Their defense

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Speaker 1: I think than maybe previous Bills teams.

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Speaker 4: It's weird because this rivalry has kind of evolved, much

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Speaker 4: like Sean McDermott has evolved. In previous years. We would

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Speaker 4: tons of points on the board. We saw that in

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Speaker 4: have changed. The Chiefs offensive line is a huge concern

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Speaker 4: for me, but which is part of why the Bills

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Speaker 4: and the Bill still almost melted down in the fourth

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Speaker 1: Run, right, because the defense has made plays in this game.

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Speaker 1: Mit Patrick Mahomes starts the game with an interception where

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Speaker 1: a really quick pressure. Josh Allen throws an interception on

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Speaker 1: Tamari Connor. There were segments in this game in the

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Speaker 1: middle where the Bills punted a couple times in a row.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs punted a couple times in a row in

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Speaker 1: and that's the chief style, and that's what the Bills

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Speaker 1: in this style. James Cook did not have a great game.

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Speaker 1: They did not run the ball well, but they did

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Speaker 1: like you're just thinking. It was almost like Mahomes needed

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Speaker 1: that next drive that he had that was like the

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Speaker 1: Like he's making next level type throws. He's on the run.

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Speaker 1: They move fast for once and they get that touchdown

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Speaker 1: huge play by Khalis Shakir on a third and nine.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's passing or rushing. Josh Allen is right there

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Speaker 1: with Lamar as the best quarterback in the league, and

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Speaker 3: Today and also the Bills offensive line. They lose Dion

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Speaker 3: Dawkins for a couple of plays they're late. We'll have

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Speaker 3: to check and see long term if that's a particular issue,

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Speaker 3: but you mentioned that third and nine, just Khalil security.

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Speaker 3: He takes a huge shot on that play from Cook,

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Speaker 3: been the best Exavier Worthy game that they've had in

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Speaker 3: It's just the defense that they can normally count on

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Speaker 1: And Chemo, Yeah, it's a good call on Worthy. They

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Speaker 1: always has that one play, the Xavier Worthy like mental

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Speaker 2: But they still scored enough.

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Speaker 1: I mean they get they get a couple of touchdowns

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Speaker 1: Just looking at the next Gen stats, nick thirty seven

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Speaker 1: percent pressure rate by the Bills despite barely blitzing, which

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Speaker 1: is that. I think that's been the key to them.

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Speaker 1: So as Oliver, it was Rousseau, it was Miller, it

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Speaker 1: was Epiness, it was everyone. Meanwhile, for once Spagnolo didn't

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Speaker 1: dial it up enough. They were blitzing plenty, but they

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Speaker 1: weren't really getting to Alan. There were segments of this

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Speaker 1: and I give Spagnolo credit for that. So I think

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Speaker 1: it was just a good game between two really good teams.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the game, like the winning

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Speaker 5: Alan in the shotgun secure in motion, right to left.

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Speaker 5: Here's the snap blitz coming. Alan has to throw it

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the twenty twenty four season, Curtis Samuel. I

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Speaker 1: was waiting for you. I've always believed in you. You

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Speaker 1: this isn't a devastating loss for the Chiefs. You bound

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Speaker 8: Here.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to Josh Allen trying to keep it in perspective,

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Speaker 1: because yes, this has been a rivalry. The Bills have

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Speaker 9: Means we have to nine wins. I know it's from perception.

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Speaker 9: Outside perception, it's a really big game and what it

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Speaker 9: week eleven, you know, we're nine and two. Last time

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Speaker 9: I checked, nine wins probably doesn't get you in the playoffs.

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Speaker 9: So you know, going into the spy week, get to

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Speaker 2: Know, yeah, he has been through this before.

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Speaker 1: He knows how long this season is, how difficult it

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Speaker 1: good start going from one great AFC rivalry to another.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 10: Lamar Jackson in the shotgun, three receivers bunched tightly to

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Speaker 11: In complete and the Steelers defense has come.

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Speaker 2: Up with a stop. I don't know what Lamar was

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Speaker 6: It seemed like blindly down the line of screws.

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Speaker 12: I know, we had somebody leaking through in the backs

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Speaker 1: That was Rob Kingg and Craig Wolfy of WDVE in Pittsburgh. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that two point conversion was the difference in an eighteen

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Speaker 1: icing the game a handful of plays later, after some

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Speaker 1: that didn't end up being the difference in this game.

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Speaker 1: But man, Patrick, you could pick a lot of differences

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Speaker 2: Where do you want to start? How about that play?

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Speaker 3: Well again, when we talked about this, and I'm glad

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Speaker 3: you know, Shook, I can't wait to hear your thoughts

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Speaker 3: play where it seems like the Baltimore Ravens both sides

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Speaker 6: Three plays appear to be run.

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Speaker 3: They come out, Mike Tomlin gets the Greg Popovich time

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Speaker 3: the Ravens are gonna run. Yeah, so Munkin has to

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Speaker 3: it's an absolute galaxy brain panic on the biggest play

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Speaker 3: sound to find out what the hope was here because

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Speaker 3: there was nothing there.

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Speaker 2: There was nothing.

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Speaker 1: It was extremely confusing and give to everything Tomlin does

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Speaker 1: this year just turns to gold because what's.

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Speaker 2: The worst case scenario.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you don't want to run the

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Speaker 2: But they should have, is my answer.

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Speaker 13: Nick, Yeah, I would agree.

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Speaker 4: I think Charles Davis in the Badcast goes oh, I

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Speaker 4: think that that was like jump pass and obviously if

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Speaker 4: you give that away, you're not gonna come back and

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Speaker 4: run it again, because that's an element of surprise play.

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Speaker 4: It looked like it was blocked right up front, and

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Speaker 4: it just completely crumbled once they got to the edge.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to make too much of a deal

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Speaker 4: out of one play, because Patrick, you'll be on board

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Speaker 4: with me on this. The Ravens played one of their

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Speaker 4: they were making it hard for Lamar Jackson to throw

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Speaker 4: the ball until that final touchdown drive there. He had

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Speaker 4: only completed two passes of receivers all day. Everything they

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Speaker 4: in their own way. They had twelve accepted penalties against them.

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Speaker 4: They fumble away possession on Derrick Henry's second carry of

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Speaker 4: just looked like a disjointed operation all day. This is

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Speaker 4: and a lot again, a lot of that credit is

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Speaker 4: justin Tucker missed his two field goals in the first half,

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Speaker 4: shooting themselves in the foot time and time again. They

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Speaker 4: gotta be on that plane kicking themselves all the way

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Speaker 4: much could have won, and now they've lost it. Their

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what though, it's making up. It's setting

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Speaker 4: up for a real nice rematch later this season.

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Speaker 2: Yes it is. That's on Christmas Day.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers have won seven out of eight in this

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Speaker 1: matchup between Tomlin and John Harbaugh. After the game, Cam

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Speaker 1: Wolf of NFL Network is going to be with us

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Speaker 1: in studio, by the way, on a preview show in

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Speaker 1: about three weeks, So I look forward to that Patrick, That'll.

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Speaker 2: Be esme, he said.

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Speaker 1: Tomlin was going around the locker room and just going

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Speaker 2: Welcome. I like that.

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Speaker 1: I like when the coaches lean into an actual rivalry.

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Speaker 1: What is it you think the Steelers do? That just

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Speaker 1: has been Raven's crew tonight. Whether it's Lamar on the

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Speaker 3: I mean, we saw it in the Ravens win against

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Speaker 3: an absolute hopeless play. Half of the planet is telling

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Speaker 3: tucks it, eventually gets down inside the two yard line.

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Speaker 3: It's very difficult for Lamar to make those plays with TJ.

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Speaker 6: Watt on the field. He's just never been able to.

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Speaker 3: And so many times we see him stiff arm the

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Speaker 3: It feels like he's oh for lifetime in getting away

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Speaker 3: And then on the other side, like last year's last

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Speaker 3: year's lost to the Pittsburgh Steelers was again they dropped

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Speaker 3: everything last week. At least the Steelers were knocking the

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Speaker 3: ball down this time. A lot of Lamar's passes got

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Speaker 3: battered at the line of scrimmage, but just mistakes, just

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Speaker 3: being mistaken. I don't know if Mike Tomlin has the

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Speaker 3: But in these last couple of games, it has been

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Speaker 3: the Ravens. I mean, all credit be it's it out.

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Speaker 3: George Pickens made a great play down the sideline. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it shook, said the Ravens losses.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to hear what you think about what

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Speaker 1: the Steelers offense and defense did.

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Speaker 2: Well. Shook.

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Speaker 1: But let's actually listen because I think it's apropos right

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Speaker 14: Ever since last year, I believe you know, going back

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Speaker 14: to the da as a championship game, we killed ourselves

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Speaker 14: and today same thing. It's just like we can't be

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Speaker 14: beating ourselves in these type of games. You gotta find

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Speaker 14: a way to fix that.

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Speaker 15: Going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's right, they really do feel like they beat themselves.

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Speaker 1: Justin Tucker missed two kicks. So out of four losses

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Speaker 1: Tucker has played a huge role in three of those

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Speaker 1: four losses. Lamar finishes two for ten under pressure for

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Speaker 1: twenty seven yards, was hit a number of time by

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Speaker 1: the Steelers defense. But Nick, let let's give the Steelers

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Speaker 1: credit here. Now, on top of this division by a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm actually really glad Lamar pointed that out, because

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Speaker 13: I was like, this looks a lot.

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Speaker 4: Like the AFC title game for us offensively, and I

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Speaker 4: think that's a big product of what the Steelers defense did.

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Speaker 4: Lamar could not get loose as a scrambler. I mean,

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Speaker 13: And again it's because of the Pittsburgh defense.

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Speaker 4: So what did Pittsburgh do well, Well, let's talk about offensively,

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Speaker 4: because they weren't much better offensively. But what they did

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Speaker 13: But no, I mean it was up and down for

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Speaker 4: This is a classic Russell Wilson game for him, because

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Speaker 4: you know, we talk about, oh, he's exceeded expectation and

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Speaker 4: and down. He was very up and down today. Where

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Speaker 4: He was a perfect no. He was twenty and twenty

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Speaker 4: So he made the big plays here and there, very

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Speaker 4: a friend as a Steelers fan, I today, I think

439
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Speaker 4: today end seventeen to sixteen, and that's when it was

440
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Speaker 4: late to nothing.

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Speaker 13: It finishes nail in sixteen. That just looked like that game.

442
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing, and this division's not over. I do

443
00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,040
Speaker 1: think we can say a few things about the twenty

444
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Speaker 1: twenty four Ravens right now. They're not going to be

445
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,879
Speaker 1: the one seed, we know that, and they're not missing

446
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,840
Speaker 1: the playoffs. So they're at seven and four in the way,

447
00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,760
Speaker 1: the AFC isn't how good they are, so they're gonna

448
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Speaker 1: be somewhere in between. They're gonna try to go win

449
00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,280
Speaker 1: this division. Not over yet when you look at the Steelers' schedule,

450
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,399
Speaker 1: although Steelers do get the Browns two out of the

451
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,359
Speaker 1: next three weeks, so at least in the relatively short tournament,

452
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:08,440
Speaker 1: it's not brutal.

453
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Speaker 2: They can win this division.

454
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Speaker 1: They're gonna be, you know, somewhere between the two and

455
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Speaker 1: the four seed, most likely somewhere between the three and

456
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Speaker 1: the five seed, and it's a decision whether they can

457
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Speaker 1: go win the division or not. That the Steelers, Yeah,

458
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 1: were in the bottom ten percentile in terms of EPA

459
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Speaker 1: per play and success rate on this game, so their

460
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Speaker 1: offense did struggle. Russell Wilson had that ghastly interception in

461
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Speaker 1: the red zone. One of the worst plays of the year, right,

462
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Speaker 1: I mean, considering the situation that you just can't make

463
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Speaker 1: that play late in the game. The running game was okay,

464
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Speaker 1: but it's really the Ravens defense, which I guess had

465
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Speaker 1: a better game. And yet at the very end, I

466
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,200
Speaker 1: know Kyle Hamilton caught your eye.

467
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Speaker 2: Patrick.

468
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Speaker 3: He did because Justin Fields comes in into the game

469
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Speaker 3: to run the ball. The Steelers are not going to

470
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Speaker 3: throw the ball, and Kyle Hamilton is hopping on one

471
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Speaker 3: leg before that play. It's an immense depth. It's second

472
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Speaker 3: and nine. He gets crazy depth just because he can't move,

473
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Speaker 3: so he's just back there just for moral support. Rokwan

474
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 3: Smith was out of the game. I don't know if

475
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Speaker 3: it was a helmet communication issue where they couldn't take

476
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Speaker 3: Cayle Hamilton off the field. Either way, he stays in

477
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,880
Speaker 3: the game on the next play because Justin Field slides

478
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Speaker 3: down despite the fact that Klin was not going to

479
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 3: do anything to contact him on that play.

480
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Speaker 1: And yet I didn't know the rules justin fields. By

481
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 1: the way, someone's got to tell him the rules.

482
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Speaker 3: He slides short. The spot is where you initiate the slide,

483
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Speaker 3: and then so on third and one, Kyle Hamilton stays

484
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Speaker 3: in the game. Again, he's on one leg and they

485
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Speaker 3: can do nothing to stop nause He gets the first

486
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 3: down in ball game. But just we're gonna have to

487
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Speaker 3: check on Roquan's status. Cayle Hamilton's already playing on one leg.

488
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 3: It seems like those two Without those two, I don't know.

489
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Speaker 3: The defense played better today.

490
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Speaker 4: But it's the hamstring too, So that's concerning because you

491
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Speaker 4: know how hamstring's can be and that's the key part

492
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Speaker 4: of their defense right there.

493
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Speaker 13: So that's concerning for sure.

494
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Speaker 1: That is a big one to watch. Yeah, Lamar Jackson's

495
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 1: numbers against the Steelers in his last five starts five touchdowns,

496
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: eleven turnovers in twenty one sacks taken hard to believe.

497
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 1: Van Jefferson played most of this game at wide receiver.

498
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: Mike Williams didn't get any runs. Van Jefferson with a

499
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 1: big fat o fer. I'd like to see a little

500
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: more Mike Williams at some point drop as well, but

501
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Speaker 1: these on his only target, I believe. Uh the uh,

502
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 1: these are champion problems. Steelers are rolling. They're a big

503
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Speaker 1: part of this season. They're going to the playoffs too.

504
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Speaker 1: We'll see what where they are in seed, Uh somewhere.

505
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Speaker 1: I would guess between three and six. Is a fun division,

506
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Speaker 1: and it feels like it's just getting started. Let's head

507
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: to the only division that's better. Yes, the NFC North

508
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 1: Sanchos for the game. Here's the snap placement made.

509
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 6: The kick is is fuck.

510
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 16: Then the Packers up one beautiful, It is beautiful, It

511
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Speaker 16: comes up short and the Packers have one eleven straight over.

512
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: The Bearers twenty to nineteen. Oh my goodness, what a finish. Wow.

513
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: Wow, Wayne Laravie and Larry McCarron for WR and W. Yeah,

514
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: some franchises they just seem blessed. I mean, thinking about

515
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: the Chiefs last week on that blockfield goal, thinking about

516
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: the Packers this week on that blockfield goal. But that

517
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: was a great block and special teams matters, Rich Pasacia matters,

518
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: and the Bears. Man, some franchises just seems snake picked,

519
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: and they have been since about the nineteen eighties. This

520
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: could have been such a nice sole satisfying win for

521
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams and a Bears squad that has just been

522
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: going through it. Caleb Williams gets them in position. Maybe

523
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:50,959
Speaker 1: Matt Abraflus.

524
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Speaker 2: Didn't get them close enough in position. I would argue

525
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Speaker 2: that's today.

526
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Speaker 1: Yes, Packers win this game twenty to nineteen. I am

527
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: stunned by how well the Bears hung in this game,

528
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: and probably deserved to win this game. But I didn't

529
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: watch it as close as you explain to me how

530
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: they did that well they.

531
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Speaker 3: Did so, and we'll start with the good news, of course,

532
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 3: before Carlbrooks kind of ruins the day of all Bears fans.

533
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 3: A nice game for Thomas Brown, like congratulations. The offensive

534
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 3: coordinator change worked out. Got to see the playmaking ability

535
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Speaker 3: of Kayleb. Williams scored on four of their first five possessions.

536
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Speaker 6: Did the Bears.

537
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Speaker 3: They also converted fifty six percent of their third down plays.

538
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Speaker 3: If you want to check my math, it's nine of

539
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Speaker 3: sixteen there. And I think one of the most consequential

540
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 3: drives for them, because the Packers late go for it

541
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Speaker 3: on fourth and goal. They roll Jordan Love out. It's

542
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 3: hopeless in the end zones, so he tries to run

543
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 3: for it. They get the turnover on dials. They start

544
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 3: that possession on the two yard line and then they

545
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 3: have a twelve play drive. The problem is it's only

546
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 3: forty nine yards, but they at least flip field position.

547
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Speaker 3: They give the ball back to the Packers. Jordan Love

548
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 3: hits Christian Watson on a sixty yard play. Wow, they

549
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 3: review it. It looks close like he almost has that

550
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 3: ball hit the ground, but they go in. They score,

551
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Speaker 3: and then we heard the results of that final drive.

552
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 3: There are the only Bears victories with moral ones. Yeah,

553
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 3: as the offense had a low bar to clear, but

554
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 3: they definitely cleared it today.

555
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: You know Caleb Williams in this game, early on, he's

556
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: running around. He ends up with seventy yards on the ground,

557
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: which is that's fantastic. And I see as that last

558
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: drive is going the Roma Dunes catch on the sideline,

559
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 1: great back shoulder throw. That was fourth down, right, a

560
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: great catch by the two rookies, and you do feel like, oh,

561
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 1: this is the tide turning. Let's have that conversation about

562
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 1: not going far enough. The Bears have the ball with

563
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Speaker 1: a timeout, which, by the way, the Packers took at

564
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Speaker 1: thirty five seconds. Okay, We've just been through this so

565
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 1: many times. The ball's at the thirty yard line. Okay,

566
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: So at that point it's what a forty seven yard

567
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: field goal they've got. It was probably more than forty

568
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: seconds when they could have taken that time out. The

569
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 1: Packers took it at thirty five. You have a timeout,

570
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: You have a timeout left, but you don't want to

571
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 1: use it there, okay, But the Packers they used it.

572
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: They decided to save you a little bit. At that point.

573
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: You have your time out and you have thirty five

574
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: seconds left, why not try to get closer to make

575
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: it easier? Like, why not there? I know bad things

576
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: can happen. Don't live in your fears.

577
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Speaker 6: I will play Devil's after here.

578
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 3: Because that drive started with Caleb Williams taking sacks on

579
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Speaker 3: first and second down, okay, And so it was one

580
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: of those things where they had it became third and eighteen, right,

581
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 3: he gets the pass to Odun's are you then they

582
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 3: have to convert that on that fourth down that you

583
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 3: mentioned where perhaps memory of that and seeing Caleb getting

584
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 3: sacked all the times that he's getting sacked this season,

585
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 3: they don't want to go from a forty seven yard

586
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 3: field goal to a fifty eight yard field goal. It's

587
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 3: one of those things where, of course it could be closer,

588
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 3: but considering the way things have gone for Chicago, it's,

589
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 3: you know, you gotta protect the field. Though we seen

590
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 3: it league wide, you haven't been able to protect the field.

591
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 2: Is Packers team any good? By the way shook? They're

592
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 2: seven and three?

593
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: Like they are good because their coach is good, and

594
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: I believe their quarterback is good, and I think their

595
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: offensive talent and their scheme is good and their offensive lannything,

596
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: So they are good. But they are one of the

597
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: teams in the in the NFL where I just don't

598
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: feel like I know much about them.

599
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: They're just sort of like, what what's going on here?

600
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: They feel a little lucky to be seven and three,

601
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: But they're also so talented that it's like, Okay, I'm

602
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: fine with them being seven and three.

603
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 4: Every time I think about them or I'm asked about them,

604
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 4: I come back to the same feeling, which is that

605
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 4: I am being tested on a book that I never

606
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 4: finished for summer reading. But I read the cliff notes,

607
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 4: like I know parts about them, but their quarterback's been

608
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 4: heard on two separate occasions, and they've played in some

609
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 4: inclement weather situations, and they lost the time of possession

610
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 4: battle by in this game by nearly thirteen minutes today,

611
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 4: So how much of a sample size did you get

612
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 4: Jordan Love through seventeen passes, he threw a pick that

613
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 4: was really ugly, that would have led to a touchdown,

614
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 4: that would have flipped the scales of these game early

615
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 4: and probably put the Bears in a position where they

616
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 4: were pressing, and instead they had the benefit of time.

617
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 4: They had the benefit of time and patience and a

618
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 4: new start with Thomas Brown and oci and they were

619
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 4: so close to winning that game, just like the Broncos

620
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 4: last week. They played well enough to win and they

621
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 4: didn't win. And you know what, shout out to Carl

622
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 4: Brooks from none other than Bowling Green State University Mid

623
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 4: American Conference guy.

624
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 13: Getting that blocked field goal. Oh but when a MAC

625
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 13: guy changes a game.

626
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: Well, finally someone from that defensive line does something that

627
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: is a little part of my frustration. I think it's

628
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: the scheme because it's all the same players as a

629
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: year ago, and their pressure numbers are just so down,

630
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: and they're like their overall team numbers aren't terrible, So

631
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: I I don't know what it is. It kind of

632
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: speaks to what I'm talking about, was this this is

633
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: a team I'm not sure what to do with, Like

634
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: it's a game where like Dobbs, you.

635
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: Know, doesn't do anything.

636
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: But then Watson pops up for that big play and

637
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: that was a fantastic play.

638
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: And I do give them credit.

639
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: Love through that interception earlier in a big spot and

640
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: they needed a touchdown to go win a division game

641
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: and they got the touch on. Hell, let's let's listen

642
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: to the Jordan Love go ahead rushing touchdown.

643
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 8: Loove to the line of scrimmage, crap buntions to the right,

644
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 8: follow the right, Nash Mark just inside the one. Quarterback

645
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 8: keeper Jordan Love pushed forward to the end zone for

646
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 8: the touchdown and the Packers take the lead twenty to nineteen.

647
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, they haven't beaten the Packers since twenty eighteen. What

648
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: were you doing in the fall of twenty eighteen, Patrick Claybahn,

649
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: you were here, You were here.

650
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 3: I think in the twenty eighteen season I got put

651
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 3: on the bench in one of those years.

652
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 6: There were some there were some decision making changes.

653
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 2: Oh no, I should have brought this up.

654
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 3: No, it's fun and your boy was chilling on Sunday,

655
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 3: but hey, we're still now.

656
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: He's so busy.

657
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: He only does NFL daily when it's his second show

658
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: of the day, Like he always has live programming before

659
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: doing this, So you have so many jobs.

660
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 3: But hey, that's twenty and sixty three days if you're

661
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 3: counting your fingers, which the Bears are, and you know they.

662
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 6: Had a shot. They had a shot to winder.

663
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 3: I know folks don't want to celebrate just moderate improvement

664
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Speaker 3: as opposed to beating a team in a rivalry game.

665
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Speaker 6: But no, good point, what was there.

666
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: Let's just put up like the visual of Thomas Brown

667
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: getting so pumped in the booth for the Bears, for

668
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: the YouTube audience, and yes, thank you for everyone that's

669
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: been subscribing on YouTube. I just loved, like how pumped

670
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: up he was, like one of the best, Like, let's

671
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: goes after a touchdown I believe it was the Roshawn

672
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: Johnson touchdown right before halftime.

673
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 2: What they did absolutely worked.

674
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: This was their most encouraging, maybe offensive performance of the year,

675
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: considering the opponent in the situation that it was in.

676
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 4: In the pantheon of headset slams that we've seen on

677
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 4: TV over the last few years. There you have the

678
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 4: negative one, the angry one, which is Total Wolf, the

679
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 4: team principal of Mercedes AMGF one, and then you have

680
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 4: the positive side, the other end of the spectrum, which

681
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 4: is Thomas Brown. When they take a ten to seven

682
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 4: lead over the Packers in the game they're not supposed

683
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 4: to win.

684
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 3: He scared his booth mate, he's sitting right next to him.

685
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 3: He slams that headset down.

686
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: Are he used to it?

687
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 3: And he jumps like, whoa? This is why we had

688
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 3: Waldron on the field. You're up here breaking stuff.

689
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: Man.

690
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: This division is so good it's unfortunate. In the NFC

691
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: four and six for the Bears fields like a death sentence.

692
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: I thought this team was done done.

693
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 1: This was such an like an encouraging performance that if

694
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: they had won it, they would have felt a little differently.

695
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: They now feel done.

696
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: At seven and three, the Packers with a really interesting

697
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: slate of difficult games coming up, starting with a San

698
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine Ers matchup next week. We're gonna listen

699
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: to Matt Lafleur, but then we're gonna take a break,

700
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Speaker 1: So This is Matt Lafleur in the locker room talking

701
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: about the blocked field goal unit. It was from Packers

702
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: dot Com. And we'll take a break. We'll be back

703
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: on the other side with a little NFC West showdown.

704
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Speaker 17: I love how Rich always defines our field goal unit, right,

705
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 17: it's the definition. It defines a character of our football team.

706
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 18: And I'll tell you what.

707
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 17: Man you guys got after their ass on that final play.

708
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 6: We need it right there, right I got.

709
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 17: I got one game ball right here, representing the field

710
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 17: goal block units, goal front.

711
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: Books.

712
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 19: Gino gets them back to the line of scrimmage twenty

713
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 19: two twenty one, gets a snap, looks, steps up, got

714
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 19: a run ten time.

715
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 7: Jo Hawks, Holy catfish, Ron fluff.

716
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 19: Side can't find anybody open from thirteen out, twelve seconds left.

717
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,959
Speaker 19: Heard the Seahawks take the lead nineteen seventeen.

718
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

719
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 20: No?

720
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: Quit in this bunch, Holy catfish? How could you have

721
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: a frown on your face?

722
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: Claybon on a Sunday that produces that one of the

723
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: moments of Geno Smith's career. That was Steve Rabel on

724
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: the k I R r oh Wow, Gino Smith with

725
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: the drive that if nothing else psychically changes one of

726
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: the most one sided division rivalries in the NFL, forty

727
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: nine Ers Seahawks. The forty nine Ers have absolutely owned Seattle.

728
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: Maybe it saves the Seahawks season, It certainly makes them

729
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: feel more relevant. At five and five, forty nine Ers

730
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: fall to five and five, And yes, that was a

731
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: drive to remember Shiki.

732
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 4: You know when the voice cracks on the call that

733
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 4: it's a peak moment in football in your season as

734
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 4: the Seahawks team that desperately needed to win, just to

735
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 4: stay in the thick of this very messy NFC West

736
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 4: race guys, when he's scrambling left, I'm shouting at the screen,

737
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 4: get out of bounce, get out of bounce.

738
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Speaker 13: And then I saw that there was open spaces. Score

739
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 13: the touchdown.

740
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Speaker 1: I screamed so loud in the news room. That was

741
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: one of my favorite moments.

742
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 4: And that's the thing is, as soon as he crossed

743
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 4: the goal line, I thought, nobody on this planet will

744
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 4: enjoy this moment more than Greg Rosenthal and I can't

745
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 4: wait to talk to about it. This was the geno

746
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 4: game because you had the highs like that, you had

747
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 4: the lows like when he throws a pass rolling to

748
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 4: his left and sails at five yards over Jackson Smith

749
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 4: and Jake's head for an interception to start the third quarter.

750
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 4: Like you had everything in between, but what you had

751
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 4: more than anything was a veteran quarterback who's been doubted,

752
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 4: who's been through the fight before, and was capable of

753
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 4: leading you down the field when you needed it for

754
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 4: a touchdown. Oh, by the way, was also benefiting from

755
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 4: the fact that Nick Bosa wasn't able to play because

756
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 4: of an injury.

757
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the Bosa did not play the last handful

758
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: of drives of this game. He actually wasn't on the

759
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: field for any of the Seahawks scores for what it's worth.

760
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: And I really give the Seahawks defense though, a ton

761
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: of credit. They quietly played their most impressive game of

762
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: the season. I thought before the buy shook against the

763
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: Rams and it ended up all being for not because

764
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: Stafford has that play in overtime the offense can't come through.

765
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Speaker 1: And it seems like they played another great game today

766
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: and they got the ball back for Gino late and

767
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: he ends up knowing he needs to go eighty yards

768
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Speaker 1: to have a touchdown. Just a bunch of really good

769
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: decisions A nice throw to metcalf, a couple of dumpoffs

770
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigbu is playing really well, just a composed,

771
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: veteran type of drive, and he's had a lot of

772
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: these last second drives that now over the last couple

773
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: of seasons. And it just felt like this team, their

774
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: center literally retired a couple of days ago before this game,

775
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. Connor Williams like, it just felt like

776
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: this team was teetering a little bit and they really

777
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: needed something like this.

778
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, like that sequence on that final

779
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 4: drive alone kind of captures who they've been as a team.

780
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 4: You know, it goes beyond Geno, but like focusing on

781
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 4: him specifically, just for this example, he hits a passer

782
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 4: over the middle on first down, he misses an out

783
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 4: route by like four yard shallow, and then he you know,

784
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 4: rips a pass through a tight window to JSN on

785
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 4: third down. It's a team that's coming together. I think

786
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 4: they're starting to kind of understand how to play together

787
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 4: and not having the pressure of the world on them

788
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 4: because they've kind of already realized, oh, we've disappointed ourselves,

789
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 4: especially at home a lot this year. But what stood

790
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 4: out to me the most more than anything, was that

791
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 4: they played inspired football on the defensive side, which has

792
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 4: been the most unpredictable part of this team this year.

793
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 4: They were closing passing windows on third down. Boy A

794
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 4: Mafe dropping in coverage and batting down a Rock Party

795
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 4: passer over the middle was really impressive to me.

796
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 13: They were getting after him.

797
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 4: Party had a solid game too, But that was the

798
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 4: part that really allows them to even buy the time

799
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 4: to get back into this game and be able to win.

800
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 4: It was the fact that they were playing pretty complimentary football,

801
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 4: even if the numbers aren't super high from.

802
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 3: It, Yeah able to get You mentioned Boye Mafe and coverage.

803
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 3: His pass rushes are very good as well, bothering Party,

804
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: especially in those key moments where he had a solid

805
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey game in total yards. But it's gonna be

806
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: tough to limit Christian McCaffrey total yards. Why they were

807
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 3: able to kind of limit him in the run game

808
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 3: and then just good decisions by Mike Donald. You mentioned

809
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 3: the fact that their center retires in the middle of

810
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 3: the week late again they only have one time out.

811
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 3: Gino hits Jackson Smith and Jig but thought he was

812
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: going to get out of bounds. He instead Alexa cut

813
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 3: it up field. I'm wondering if they're going to try

814
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 3: to sprint up and clock Ittt. Gino had just had

815
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: a huge run, and instead of going up there losing

816
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 3: it down to Clockett, Mike McDonald goes ahead and calls

817
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 3: the timeout. Gino gets the opportunity to get a breather,

818
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 3: which he clearly needed because he's able to come back

819
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 3: after the time out and have the game winning touchdown

820
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: run Bosa or not. This is something Gino needed. First

821
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: win as a starter against the San Francisco forty nine Ers.

822
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 3: Vibes up and immaculate on the on the eve of

823
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 3: a huge NFC West battle on November twenty fourth against

824
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals.

825
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 2: I love it.

826
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: This division is stupid. There are three five and five teams. Seahawks, Cardinals,

827
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers are all five and five, and the Cardinals,

828
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: I mean the Seahawks, Rams and forty nine Ers are

829
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: all five and five spoiler alert, and the Cardinals are

830
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: leading the way at six and four. All these division

831
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: games are gonna be really fun down the stretch because

832
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 1: it's the double jeopardy of second place in this division

833
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: is very likely not making the playoffs the way that

834
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: the wild cards shaping up. So it's probably just one

835
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: spot for all four of these teams, which all have

836
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: good quarterbacks and all are intriguing, but are all clearly flawed.

837
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Juan Jennings is the man, and jen catches

838
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: ninety one yards so many key first downs. But you

839
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: get McCaffrey back and then you like lose Nick Bosa

840
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: during this game. This team just feels a little snake

841
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: bit Kaffrey. Fine game, you know, over one hundred yards

842
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: from scrimmage, not incredibly explosive, and you just start wondering,

843
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: Nick if like the Niners team that we keep thinking

844
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: and I was saying, well, they're gonna start coming along

845
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: after the bye, like maybe the old Niners just just

846
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: aren't coming this year.

847
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: I don't know.

848
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean they're banged up.

849
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 4: I think McCaffrey's gonna slowly kind of like build up

850
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 4: to what we knew him as it's because it was

851
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 4: a little bit closer than the week prior.

852
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 13: But yeah, they're banged up. Like they didn't have Kittle today.

853
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 4: They dealt with a number of injuries on both sides

854
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 4: of the ball and it's just really hurt their ability

855
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 4: to get into a rhythm. The beauty of it is

856
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 4: that it's week eleven, like we still have basically two

857
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 4: months of football left. But in a division like this

858
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 4: where you didn't build an early lead because you lost

859
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 4: some games early, you have no breathing room. So you

860
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 4: have to hope that you figure it out quickly and

861
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 4: hope that you can do it if you continue to

862
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 4: miss guys here and there, if you can find a

863
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 4: way to piece together and hit that stride before you're

864
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 4: at full strength, because at this point they're not going

865
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 4: to really be at full strength this.

866
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: Year, right Well, but they were the team that had

867
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: a really tough schedule down the stretch, them in the

868
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: Seahawks compared to the Rams and Cardinals, and just on

869
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: paper it looked tougher, and this was a game you

870
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: thought they would win. They go on the road the

871
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: next two weeks in Green Bay and Buffalo. It's not

872
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: cutting time, like it is time for them to show

873
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: up in this season or else it's gonna totally slip

874
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: away from them. They are one to three in the division,

875
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: so they actually don't have that many division games left

876
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: to make up ground. They have the Rams at home,

877
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 1: and then they finished the season in Week eighteen in Arizona.

878
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: They also have an at Miami and a home for Detroit.

879
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 1: They are getting tested in a way in the regular

880
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 1: season we haven't seen since the Jimmy Garoppolo like out

881
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: for the season type injuries seasons that they've had, and

882
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 1: so it's been a minute. It's gonna be a challenge

883
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: for this team to make the playoffs. That's true of

884
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 1: the Seahawks too, But at least Gino and the Seahawks

885
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: are feeling better. Let's actually listen to Gino after the game.

886
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 21: I was out there smiling on that last drive, like

887
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 21: I walked on the field. I mean, I just had

888
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 21: kind of felt like Andrews in the outfield, like somebody's

889
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 21: just rubbing my shoulders the whole time, and I just

890
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 21: felt like there was no pressure. And I think the

891
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 21: perspective that I have that I've gained over my career

892
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 21: has allowed me to play that way. And so whenever

893
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 21: there is a moment or a mistake that's made, I

894
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 21: don't I'll never really get too down on myself. And

895
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 21: I also don't get too high when when you know

896
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 21: good things happen. I think as long as you stay

897
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 21: even killed throughout the process, I think, you know, things

898
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 21: work out better that way.

899
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: Well, i'd feel like angels in the outfield that rubbing

900
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: me if I had that shirt and sunglasses combo waiting

901
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: for me after him.

902
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: I have never seen angels in the outfield that after.

903
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: I feel like Patrick once definitely has until he can

904
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: tell me about it or explain that to me.

905
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's a pretty self explanatory title, The

906
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 3: Angels Earth, Why are you a surprise my deity? And

907
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: uh well, it's I feel like everybody there was a

908
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 3: run there Greg, where there was super early Internet wise

909
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 3: culture was generally driven by movies and angels in the outfield.

910
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: For sports fans, it was probably one that most of

911
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: us did, did it counter? I think it's not just

912
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: gonna I think a lot of people are gonna be shocked.

913
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: Okay, I hear you, But this is where I think

914
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: our age difference. And Nick is obviously much younger than

915
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: myself and younger than Patrick as well. Uh you know,

916
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: I was like fifteen then, like am I going to

917
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: see like Disney movies in the theater?

918
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: Now? It was like Greg was too cool. Yeah, Angels

919
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 2: city outfield.

920
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: I was too cool at fifteen or sixteen, whatever it was.

921
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 1: It was just kind of like, Eh, that's kids stuff.

922
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: I don't need.

923
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: I don't need angels in the outfield in my life,

924
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: you know what I do? You stand on toy story then,

925
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: I'm just saying at that particular time, it's like, do

926
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: I want to go see that?

927
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 3: Or I don't know, Oh had other plans, Nick, That's

928
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 3: where that's what we're found.

929
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: Do we just want to go like.

930
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: Drive around the hills of western Massachusetts and find the

931
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: beer that we buried in the forest.

932
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: All right, you know what else I have time for?

933
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: It's time for the Sunday Drive, presented by the all

934
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: new hybrid Toyota Camera.

935
00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: Let's go to Foxborough.

936
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 12: Saron Foxboro Rams on defense protecting a six point lea

937
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 12: third down, thirteen deep drunk from me peach it over

938
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 12: the middle fIF.

939
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 19: Packs intercepted at midfield.

940
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: Cam Kitchens takes.

941
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 13: A seats with LA's fifth win on.

942
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 11: A pass intended for to Mario Douglas.

943
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: Kitchens calls Jame, that was our friend.

944
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: JB Long KSPN Rams close out at twenty eight to

945
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: twenty two victory on a mistake. Ah Biden to Mario Douglas.

946
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: I don't even think it was on Drake May. Why

947
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: are you looking to Mario Douglas, it's going right over

948
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: your head. T can my rookie quarterback look bad in

949
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: a big spot? Rams get the road victory fun quarterback?

950
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: It wait, I gotta just stop it down for a

951
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: second though. You never you never like buried alcohol in

952
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: the I want to.

953
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 6: Learn more about the stave Greg Rosenthal Forest Beer.

954
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you know this is you know, people just

955
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: would like go put him out. You know we're in

956
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: western Massachusetts. You know, you get the beer.

957
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 2: And you just like go you go put them out somewhere.

958
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: And then you go meet up and everyone. Because you're

959
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: not gonna leave it in the house. You're not gonna

960
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: carry it around. Someone just goes puts it out in

961
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: the woods.

962
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 6: But someone has to carry it to bury it.

963
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you carry you don't even bury it. You just

964
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: kind of like you just go put it out by

965
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: some trees or whatever. Yeah, you buy it, you get it,

966
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 1: you leave it out there. You assume no one's gonna

967
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: go take it.

968
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: You're fine.

969
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 13: Enter at the other outpost.

970
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 4: He had some experience with this as well from what

971
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 4: I recall listening to, So you're not alone in this.

972
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 4: It's just that the geographical connection, we're missing it here

973
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 4: with me and Patrick.

974
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: And yes, I'm glad we're talking about this because yes,

975
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: my geographical connection to the Massachusetts region. People should be

976
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 1: feeling better in Massachusetts. Well, we'll get to the rams

977
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: part of it here, but I actually do want to

978
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: start with Drake May do it.

979
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 6: I'm shocked.

980
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: I think this is the best loss you could possibly have. Like,

981
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: Drake May is so good. This was actually his best game.

982
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: I don't even think it was close. And I know

983
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: he ends up with two turnovers here, one on a

984
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: sack that was so fast from Kobe Turner the conductor,

985
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: you know, getting inside quickly with the pressure, and then

986
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: Braden Fisk finishing him off that he had no real

987
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: chance on that. But this was the game that I

988
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: was waiting to see because Drake May's shown the real highs,

989
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: but on a play to play basis, it's still been

990
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: real up and down and I thought he was just nails,

991
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: like he was changing plays before the line of scrims.

992
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: He was really accurate.

993
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: Most of it was short stuff he was like reading

994
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: the defenses. I thought him and Van Pelt, the play caller,

995
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: were on the same page. They didn't have a ton

996
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: of drives in this game, and they almost went for

997
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: four hundred yards, so all game they looked like a

998
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 1: real deal NFL like professional offense. It wasn't about the scrambling,

999
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: Like he got twenty seven yards on the ground in

1000
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: the end and had a couple of key little scrambles,

1001
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: but that was just like a minor part. Sean McVay

1002
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: said after the game that, Wow, this kid is gonna

1003
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: be special long term. And so that was my biggest

1004
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: take was he was doing all the little mental stuff

1005
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: that people like Nate Tights were saying. He's better than

1006
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: you think at that at getting the gimmeis getting the

1007
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 1: short stuff and if it wasn't for three or four

1008
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: drops from his receivers a couple of which change drives,

1009
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: a couple killer penalties which took thirty forty to fifty

1010
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: yards off the field, another boneheaded Jalen Pokee play where

1011
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: he goes with a false start on a fourth and

1012
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: one late in this game, which actually forced them to

1013
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: kick a field goal to make it twenty eight to

1014
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 1: twenty two or else it could have been a different

1015
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: game in them going for the touchdown. Just a ton

1016
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: of mental errors. I have no faith in this Patriots

1017
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: team around him, and the decision making by Girod Mayo

1018
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: where he thinks he has a good defense and their

1019
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: defense is getting cooked out of all of that was

1020
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: bad and you just got this shining star of a

1021
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback that is really exciting if you're a Patriots

1022
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: fan right now. And we'll get to the rams, but

1023
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: talk about Drake may Nick Chuck or yeah.

1024
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 4: Well that's what gets too excited about it is that

1025
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 4: like in previous weeks of like, okay, well he's just

1026
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 4: gonna scramble his tailoff for the first quarter of the

1027
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 4: game before he settles in.

1028
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 13: And now he's actually not needing to do that.

1029
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 4: He's settling in and he's using his mind and his

1030
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 4: process and ability to throw on target passes.

1031
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 13: Taking the game.

1032
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 4: He's like you said, he's settling in. He kind of

1033
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 4: in spots reminds me of what I saw from Joe

1034
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 4: Burrow way back in his rookie season. It's like week two,

1035
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 4: I mean, well, the formerly known Cleveland brown Stadium watching

1036
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 4: them play the Bengals, and I'm like, wow, this, this

1037
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 4: speed of the game is not too much of this kid.

1038
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 4: He's processing there because he's making the right decisions. Granted,

1039
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 4: he threw the ball fifty three times in that game,

1040
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 4: but I don't want drink they doing that. But he

1041
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 4: did throw the ball forty times today for two and

1042
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 4: two touchdowns, so like he can handle it. That's what

1043
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 4: helps you sleep at night as a Patriots fan. It's

1044
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 4: just that now they've got to fix everything else around it.

1045
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: They don't need to win this year. They're three and eight. Oh,

1046
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: that's all fine. And they didn't win today because I

1047
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: thought the quarterback play in this game Patrick was outstanding.

1048
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: Like it was as high level as you could have

1049
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: possibly expected. Like I said, I think it was easily

1050
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: Drake Made's best game. It was also one of Matthew

1051
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: Stafford's best games in a long time. He was just

1052
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 1: about perfect after does a couple of little misplays early

1053
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: but only eighteen completions, but he did it for two

1054
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety five yards. Every play was big. Mentally,

1055
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: he was absolutely sharp. He beats the zero blitz to

1056
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup for a long touchdown. But some of the

1057
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: throats to Na Cool were fantastic. Pukah's running over players.

1058
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: The touchdown to Colby Parkinson was just a fantastic flip

1059
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: your hits like throwing left. It was the Matthew Stafford

1060
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: that we've been waiting to see.

1061
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and now four touchdowns the two of his last

1062
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 3: three games. Puka goes for one to twenty three in

1063
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 3: a score where I was worried he hurt himself again

1064
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 3: because he does the Puka Nakua thing, completely lays out

1065
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 3: to make a grab in the end zone, is able

1066
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 3: to stay in the game. He has one hundred and

1067
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 3: twenty three yards that one score. Cooper Cup had another

1068
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 3: to go with the long touchdown you mentioned. You mentioned

1069
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,959
Speaker 3: as they beat the blitz Kyron averages five point seven

1070
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 3: yards per carry. It's it's the Rams offense that we

1071
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 3: were promised right that kind of didn't necessarily show up.

1072
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 3: And we'll talk about the Dolphins defense and the win

1073
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 3: that they had, because I think we're gonna go back,

1074
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 3: especially Rams stands are going to go back and kind

1075
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 3: of circle that game in prom Tom that lost to

1076
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 3: the Dolphins, depending on how this season shakes out in

1077
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 3: the NFC West. But it's tough to critique this particular

1078
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 3: Rams team where they are on offense. Everybody was there

1079
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 3: and everybody played well. They protected Stafford well as well.

1080
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 4: I have a critique and the critique is not specifically

1081
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 4: about this game, but it's just about the unreliability of

1082
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford this year.

1083
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 13: Who is he?

1084
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 4: Like?

1085
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: Who is he?

1086
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,479
Speaker 13: Last week? He was not good?

1087
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 4: This week he's eighteen for twenty seven for two ninety

1088
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 4: five and four touchdowns, which Stafford am I getting because

1089
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 4: it's driving me insane.

1090
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was really encouraging.

1091
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: Maybe he's the guy, although last week would prove me wrong.

1092
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 1: That excels when he's got one of the best wide

1093
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: receivers in football. It's I really think, like just ab

1094
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: testing when Pukainakua plays football like they're a really good.

1095
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 13: Offense, but he had them both last week.

1096
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 2: Well, that's true, they needn't do anything. That's what drives

1097
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 2: me insane, that's true. But other than that uck.

1098
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 1: Test and like he's just so good Pukakua, I don't

1099
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: think he's one hundred percent. And it's not just because

1100
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: when he came up off that diving touchdown, I don't

1101
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: think he was moving that fast. In this game, and

1102
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: yet he made so many defenders miss. He ran people over.

1103
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: These are he was so good on outbreaking routes. Stafford

1104
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: was in this game. It was something like eleven for

1105
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: sixteen for one hundred and fifty three and three touchdown.

1106
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: Those are like difficult throws that you need a big

1107
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: arm to make. A lot of them were to Puka Nikoua.

1108
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: Our friend Jordan Rodrigaz The Athletic points out that the

1109
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: touchdown to Cup was very much similar to the love

1110
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: of the Game route that Cooper Cup had against the

1111
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: Buccaneers in the playoffs, where he's supposed to just kind

1112
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: of be running that route but isn't expected to get it.

1113
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: But over the years they've realized sometimes it does pop

1114
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: open and that he's a He now is more of

1115
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: an option on that play, and that was a fantastic

1116
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: play by the offensive line and Stafford to read it

1117
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 1: and then Cup got free behind Jonathan Jones. But they

1118
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: had thirteen Nikoua and Cup of the eighteen catches, but

1119
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,959
Speaker 1: they're not all equal. I mean, Pooka is a number one,

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00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: number one, and he is awesome, And the dimes from

1121
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: Stafford were so fun. I want to listen to see

1122
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: if our friend JB. Long enjoyed that Kobe Parkinson touchdown,

1123
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: because that was one of the sweetest plays of the

1124
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: entire day.

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00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 12: Second down, two rams at the nineteen of the Patriots

1126
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 12: boot leg left side end zone toss.

1127
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 11: One man brings it over his shoulder, his first as

1128
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 11: a ram touchdown Colvid Parkinson nineteen yards. It's another red

1129
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 11: zone dot from Matthew Stafford.

1130
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 2: Though, I mean he is fading away.

1131
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: That's like a trick shot and he has the time

1132
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: that so perfectly, or else Parkinson runs out of room

1133
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: right over the linebacker.

1134
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 2: That was sweet.

1135
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: They did punt a couple times in the fourth quarter,

1136
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: which gave the Patriots a chance to win this game.

1137
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 2: But my god, was he on fire for a while.

1138
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 4: That throw made me feel like I do when I

1139
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 4: step into a really really hot hot up.

1140
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that was awesome. It was really good to

1141
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: see Christian Barmore back on the field. He's been out

1142
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: all season with blood. Clott said that he went through

1143
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: some tough times really in the months since we've seen him,

1144
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: and so it was good. He made a couple of

1145
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: plays and yeah, like I mentioned this defense, he always

1146
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: make a couple plays to change the game, and even

1147
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: though the secondary struggled a little bit, Kobe Turner was awesome.

1148
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: I do think jerd Mayo has got to do a

1149
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: better job in terms of game management. Very conservative, acting

1150
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: like they're not moving the ball in this game. With

1151
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: a couple fourth down decisions, they can't pick up a

1152
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 1: yard to save their life inside the five. Let your

1153
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: guy Drake may get out and he's the best player

1154
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: on your team right now. Just give him the ball

1155
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: like he's Josh Allen. Do not trust the running game.

1156
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: It's not happening. Great win by the Rams. That was

1157
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 1: the Sunday Drive presented by the all new hybrid Toyota Camra.

1158
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,319
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1159
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: Toyota dot com slash Camry. So big win for the

1160
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: Rams gets them to five and five and right in

1161
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 1: the thick of things. That was the Broncos record entering Sunday.

1162
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: They knew they needed to win after a couple tough

1163
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: losses to Denver.

1164
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 10: Nicks will operate under center on second and six from

1165
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 10: the Falcon forty one playfake bowl, rolls toys.

1166
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 6: Right, squares his shoulders, throws a strike dep.

1167
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: Ball clot and this is little Jordan Murphrey pulling.

1168
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 8: Away into twenty fifteen to ten five touchdown Denver, Little

1169
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 8: Jordan Humphreys strike from bow Knicks forty one yards on

1170
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 8: the touchdown reception. That is the fourth touchdown pass of

1171
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 8: the game by rookie bow Knicks.

1172
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 2: Yo too.

1173
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: Nicks had four touchdowns and three hundred and seven yards

1174
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: and five incompletions in an NFL game to get a

1175
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: thirdy eight to six win to keep the Broncos like

1176
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: in playoff position. This is happening. He's getting better every week.

1177
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: Sean Payton is dealing, bow Nicks is dealing. They embarrassed

1178
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: the Falcons blowout win. Good foresight by us Patrick, all

1179
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: three of us on game debut, Cynthia myself and you

1180
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: predicted a Bronco's win and they got it.

1181
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, none of us had thirty eight to six where

1182
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 3: Michael Pennix is coming in and making plays late in

1183
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 3: this game because it's just a wrap for Kirko and

1184
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 3: company where they really couldn't get anything going. He's eighteen

1185
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 3: to twenty seven for one hundred and twenty three yards.

1186
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 3: And then when you Kirk Cousins got negative two yards

1187
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 3: on pressure dropbacks.

1188
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 6: Wow, that was the total.

1189
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 3: It's pressured on thirty percent of his dropbacks for a

1190
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 3: total of negative two yards. Wasn't necessarily that great in

1191
00:54:55,200 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 3: no pressure situations where the Falcons couldn't stay all the

1192
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 3: field for long periods of time, and when they could,

1193
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 3: we as was the case all season, they could get

1194
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 3: absolutely no pressure on bon Knicks, including on two screen

1195
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 3: pass touchdowns where the Broncos got a touchdown to Mims

1196
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 3: and then they come back back later on next red

1197
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 3: zone possesion they run the same play to Troy Franklin

1198
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 3: and it's there's no Falcons in the picture. Quinn Minors

1199
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 3: gets free blocks two people. The exact same thing happened

1200
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 3: a couple of drives later where the Broncos were just

1201
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 3: having success on everything.

1202
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 6: They called it.

1203
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 2: That is Sean Payton in his bag.

1204
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: He did that so often in New Orleans where he'd

1205
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 1: run the same play with but with different personnels later

1206
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: in the game. He does little things in the game

1207
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: that show you how good he is and why not,

1208
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: Like they they have such a crazy team right now,

1209
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: they're winning up front. Like the biggest mismatch all day

1210
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: was Broncos offensive line versus Falcons pass rush. But it's

1211
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: a mismatch on the other side too. Shuck their pass

1212
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: rush for the Broncos is getting after cut. It's situational football,

1213
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 1: it's complimentary football. It's looking at a three person backfield

1214
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: and using all these guys like Vela and little Jordan

1215
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: Humphrey and Franklin, and they're all making plays and it

1216
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: really does remind you of Saints' teams, Like I don't

1217
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: want to go crazy with the Knicks Breeze comparisons, but

1218
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: they are really ahead of where I would have expected

1219
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 1: them to possibly be here at six and five.

1220
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to figure out who Marcus Colson is

1221
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 4: in this receiving corps.

1222
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 2: They don't have them yet, Yeah, they do not.

1223
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 13: They don't, they don't. But it's fun.

1224
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 4: This is a very fun team to root for because

1225
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 4: it's a bunch of young guys. Will Jordan Humphrey has

1226
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 4: been there for a couple of years now, but like

1227
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 4: Devon Valle and Troy Franklin and even Audric Estima, the

1228
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 4: big hulking running back from Notre Dame. You know, he

1229
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 4: gets his run in the last couple of weeks it's

1230
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 4: been very fun to root for them, but you're right,

1231
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 4: like when it comes to playing the Falcons, there is

1232
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 4: one best course to victory over them, which is getting

1233
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 4: after Kirk Cousins, because, as we've discussed many times on

1234
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 4: this show this season, he can't move and how do

1235
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 4: you stop that offense. You get in his face and

1236
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 4: dare him to make throws under pressure, And I mean,

1237
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 4: that's that's really what made a difference for Denver in

1238
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 4: today's game, and then allowed them to just continue doing

1239
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 4: what they've been doing with Bonnicks for weeks, which is

1240
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 4: get him out on the perimeter. That highlight we just played,

1241
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 4: he's on a play action rollout. Of course he's gonna

1242
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 4: find the guy. That's where he's at his best. So

1243
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 4: it's fun to see all this come together. I have

1244
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 4: a hard time looking at the Broncos and thinking legit,

1245
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I don't. You're gonna be

1246
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 4: legit if you're still in the conversation at the end

1247
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 4: of the year. I'm not saying they're a title contender,

1248
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 4: but it's fun to see them in the conversation right now.

1249
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 3: I would make the case if we're going Saints parallels

1250
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 3: that Courtland Sutton to to Marcus Colston is probably as

1251
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 3: solid as you can get on this route. We'll have

1252
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 3: Devon Valet be Defrey Henderson, maybe Jafonte is name.

1253
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 2: It doesn't quite work.

1254
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you're right at some aspects to him, but

1255
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: he you know, he's more of a deep guy.

1256
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1257
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 3: But there was a play where bo Nicks in one

1258
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 3: of the situations where everybody was covered, which was very

1259
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 3: rare in this game, Bo Knicks lost one up to

1260
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 3: Courtland Sutton who goes and makes a grab over the

1261
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 3: top of aj Torell, who was in good position on

1262
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 3: the play. It takes the ball away from him. Just

1263
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 3: an overmatched Atlanta Falcons team where they had the disaster

1264
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 3: in New Orleans and young Way Kup came back hit

1265
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 3: two long field goals today, so the kicking game wasn't

1266
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 3: necessarily I saw people, you know, concerned about the alignment

1267
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 3: because Kup takes that awkward stance. The stance stayed the same,

1268
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 3: the positioning and the distance was the same today. He

1269
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 3: hit his kicks this week, but it did not matter

1270
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 3: other than the Falcons getting a few points, which if

1271
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 3: he didn't hit them, they wouldn't have any right.

1272
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: There was a fourth and go for it by Raheem

1273
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: early in this game where they got it in their

1274
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: own end down fourteen three, and I thought that was

1275
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: a telling go for it and smart that Raheem knows

1276
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: their defense isn't good and that they're going to have

1277
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: to be really aggressive to win games offensively. Now, this

1278
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: is their worst offensive performance, and it's why I think

1279
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: the Ravens, I mean, the Broncos are legit now winning

1280
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Legit, no, but like a legit playoff

1281
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: type of team. When you're that good upfront and you're

1282
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: coaching is that good on both sides of the ball,

1283
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: then you totally pass my smell test as like a

1284
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: six or a seven seed, which I think they are

1285
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: angling towards Peyton and the Broncos and the rest of

1286
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: the AFC West has benefited from playing the NFC South,

1287
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: Like that's partly why they're loading up on wins. But

1288
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: Sean Payton owns this division, like they swept the NFC South.

1289
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: Sean Payton did it like he is still the best

1290
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: coach in the NFC South. Most of these games weren't

1291
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: even close either, Like he handed the Bucks their werest

1292
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: offensive performance of the season that was back. I mean

1293
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: Vance Joseph is coaching really well, really creative, and the

1294
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: Falcons never felt to me like a six and three

1295
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,919
Speaker 1: team or even a six and four team. Maybe they're

1296
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: more of a six and five team. Their defense, I

1297
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: think is so problematic that we'll see if there's a

1298
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: team over five hundred at the end of the year

1299
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: in the NFC South. I think the Bucks are very

1300
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: much alive in this division. If you look at their schedule,

1301
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: I think they can win this division. I would guess,

1302
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: like nine wins, you got a decent chance here to

1303
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: be at least tied for the NFC South Division, you know, championship.

1304
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: We'll see, Like, I just think that's where it's going

1305
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: that these two teams.

1306
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 2: You don't look like you agree, SHOOKI.

1307
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 4: No, I see three wins on their schedule right now

1308
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 4: that I feel comfortable about, which is the Falcons, which

1309
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 4: is Vegas Giants, Panthers, and then you get Chargers, Vikings

1310
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 4: and Commanders. They're all smashed in here together. But I

1311
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 4: mean six and four, I can see them winning nine

1312
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 4: games and win.

1313
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: Probably they're over under right now, should be about ten,

1314
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: Like you're right, but they're a team. They're their pass rush,

1315
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: their defense is problematic enough that I don't think for

1316
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: sure any game is for sure. Good job there by

1317
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: the Broncos. While we're talking teams like trying to stay

1318
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: in the playoff mix, Let's stay in the AFC and

1319
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: let's go down to Miami.

1320
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 8: That can love from Miami from their own forty three

1321
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 8: yard line, nursing.

1322
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 5: A five point lead here on the fourth quarter with

1323
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 5: three twenty eight.

1324
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 20: Left to play, g smyth in motion across the formation

1325
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 20: back to throw two.

1326
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 6: When pressure gets off the field.

1327
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 2: What open Smith at the at the he got touchdowns down?

1328
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 19: Wow to a tunka Bilo is looking down the field

1329
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 19: that John Hu Smith gott behind everybody.

1330
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: That was Tua Tugabiloa's only throw over twenty yard air

1331
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: yards all game, and it was a great one.

1332
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 2: He sound found some blown coverage.

1333
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: When you need a big play, you call up John

1334
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: Hu Smith.

1335
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 2: That was Jimmy.

1336
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: Cefalo and Joe Rose on WB G.

1337
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 2: G in Miami.

1338
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: What an offensive performance by the Dolphins in this game.

1339
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: It really shows how their offense is different this year.

1340
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: But absolutely back thirty four points on only seven drives.

1341
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: They scored on six of those drives mostly touchdowns, and

1342
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: the only one that they didn't was a forty five

1343
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: second drive at the end of the of a very

1344
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: weird first half where they really didn't have time to

1345
01:01:56,080 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: get going extraordinarily efficient. They were eight for twelve on

1346
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: third down. Tua was just making great throw after great

1347
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: throw on third down. Yeah, most of them were under

1348
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: ten yards, some were in the ten to twenty rain range.

1349
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: The thing that really gets to me when I think

1350
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: about this Dolphins team lately is that Tua from the

1351
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 1: pocket mostly good. But there was like a third quarter

1352
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 1: play where he looked for Tyreek Hill. It was dialed

1353
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: up perfectly, and Tua just made the wrong decision of

1354
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: like what type of throw to make, and he just

1355
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: lays it up there and gives Jack Jones chance to

1356
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: come back and break it up. Very next play is

1357
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: one that shouldn't have worked. The Raiders pass rush was

1358
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: decent today. They flushed to out. He's rolling to his left.

1359
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: He makes a sensational touchdown throw to Tyreek and his

1360
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: numbers in this game in terms of creative first of

1361
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: all seven for eight when he held the ball over

1362
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: two and a half seconds for one hundred and twenty

1363
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: one yards in two touchdowns and then for three when

1364
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: he was outside of the pocket and on the run

1365
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: like creat a. Toua is really making it happen in

1366
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: the last handful of weeks and it's working.

1367
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 3: And we saw it on the touchdown to John new

1368
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 3: Smith where these are the plays considering his injury history

1369
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 3: where we tend to say, oh no, like toua, what's

1370
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 3: going on, get rid of the football. But he's he's

1371
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 3: made the right decisions, like including the win out here

1372
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 3: against the Rams. You mentioned that touchdown pass where it's

1373
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 3: things things get squarely in the pocket, he rolls out,

1374
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 3: Tyreek comes with him, he's able to get his second

1375
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 3: foot in for that touchdown there where this offense is

1376
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 3: more John new Smith than Jalen Waddle.

1377
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,439
Speaker 6: Now we haven't seen a lot.

1378
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 3: Of Wattle this season, but he can't argue with the

1379
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 3: results is John who goes over one hundred yards receiving

1380
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 3: with two touchdowns there and Devon ah Chan had a

1381
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 3: solid performance. All of Devon ah Chan's production has come

1382
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 3: in games where two tongue of Bailo is the starting quarterble.

1383
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 3: It's almost like the Dolphins just ceased to exit us

1384
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 3: for a few weeks there, and now they're back. When

1385
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 3: we're left to wonder what if, what if things didn't

1386
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 3: go wrong?

1387
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: Well, they're four and six, so in the NFC, that

1388
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: would probably be a death sentence. In the AFC, I

1389
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: think you got a chance to make a run at

1390
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: that seventh spot. Another easy matchup next week, and then

1391
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: an interesting one on Thanksgiving, so they're in it. You're right,

1392
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: it's too bad when you think about those games that

1393
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 1: they weren't more prepared for their backup quarterbacks. But yeah,

1394
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: eight Chan goes over one hundred yards from scrimmage one

1395
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: hundred and five yards, including four catches. Moster is weirdly

1396
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: not part of this group. The running game was fine today,

1397
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: but they didn't really need it. They kind of knew

1398
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: what they were getting from the Raiders defense and they

1399
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: just kept possessing the ball. There was only five drives

1400
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: nick in the first half of this game, five total,

1401
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: not from five team five total. Four drives in a

1402
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,959
Speaker 1: row from the Raiders and the Dolphins that were all

1403
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,479
Speaker 1: at least twelve plays. Three of them were fourteen plays,

1404
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 1: the more one was sixteen plays. The Raiders offense actually

1405
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 1: played quite well today. The Turners made a difference, but

1406
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: it just didn't matter because the Raiders defense couldn't get

1407
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: any stops.

1408
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you want a sign that football is cyclical,

1409
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 4: look at the Miami Dolphins, one of the most explosive

1410
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 4: teams in the NFL in the last couple of seasons,

1411
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 4: suddenly becoming like the Chiefs are kind of which is

1412
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 4: a shorter offense. They're taking what defenses are giving them.

1413
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 4: John new Smith's role increases because of this style of offense, essentially,

1414
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 4: and I think a lot of that has to do

1415
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 4: with the fact that the Dolphins already went through hell

1416
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 4: and high water with this team this year without two

1417
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 4: a tongue of my love for that stretch. So now

1418
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 4: it's like, all right, let's get our rhythm back, let's

1419
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 4: get kind of acclimated again, Let's take what the defense

1420
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 4: gives us, and we'll just move our way down the field.

1421
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,479
Speaker 4: We don't need to be the seventy yard touchdown pass

1422
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 4: team anymore when we can beat a team like this.

1423
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 13: I am curious.

1424
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 4: I want to know, because I was wondering about this

1425
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 4: last week when they were doing the same thing to

1426
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 4: beat the Rams. Do they have that in the bag

1427
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 4: still or is it something that like, we're just trying

1428
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 4: to win games right now and again against this defense.

1429
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 4: This is the defense gave up forty one points in

1430
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 4: five touchdown passes to Joe Burrow recently.

1431
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 13: So it is the Raider still.

1432
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,439
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm very curious about the Dolphins and see

1433
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 4: if we'll ever get that from them again.

1434
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 3: Well, we saw today where you think about this Mike

1435
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 3: McDaniel offense and play action guys in motion. They only

1436
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 3: had six play action dropbacks today.

1437
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 1: That's like I was gonna say, Kirk Cousins, like, but

1438
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins only had one today.

1439
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 2: When I looked, you.

1440
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 3: Have to throw Kirk o out just when we're talking

1441
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 3: play actions. The Falcons don't do it. It's it's weird,

1442
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 3: but weird from the Dolphins today. But on his non

1443
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 3: play action dropbacks too, it was twenty four to thirty

1444
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 3: for two hundred and fifty yards and three touchdowns.

1445
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 6: So so if it ain't broke.

1446
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't fix it right, Yeah, it like Antonio Pears

1447
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: knows he's in a tough spot. He actually told the

1448
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:47,479
Speaker 1: broadcast crew that he made the offensive coordinator change because

1449
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: he because he wants to be around next year too,

1450
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 1: which so he's very aware.

1451
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 13: Keeps it real.

1452
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 1: He's very aware that he could be one and done.

1453
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:00,080
Speaker 1: And when his defense is getting shredded like this, they

1454
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: had no answers.

1455
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 2: You do worry. Like I said, the Raiders offense was better.

1456
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 1: People are gonna look that their leading rusher was Jacobe

1457
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 1: Myers with twenty yards and look at the points and

1458
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: think it's same old Raiders.

1459
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 2: I don't blame him.

1460
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 1: In their first five drives when the game was actually

1461
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: in doubt, that the score was thirty one to nineteen

1462
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 1: with three minutes to go, they averaged three point eight

1463
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: points per drive. To put that in perspective, that would

1464
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: be the greatest offense in NFL history. Like they moved

1465
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 1: the ball, they scored points, I know it, Like they

1466
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 1: were going slowly down the field and until Minshew threw

1467
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: that interception and the game was basically over. Like he

1468
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 1: had a couple like scattered by bad Minshew plays, But

1469
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 1: overall they were good and he was pretty good in

1470
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: this game. Brock Bowers is an absolute beast. He is

1471
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 1: the best tight end in the NFL in my opinion,

1472
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: at least certainly receiving thirteen catches for one hundred and

1473
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 1: twenty six yards. They built the whole plane out of

1474
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: him and his hand. The combination of his hands in

1475
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: his yards after the catchability are just crazy. He's one

1476
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: of the best tight ends catching the ball on a

1477
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 1: play to play basis that I've ever seen. I mean,

1478
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: he really is that good. He took my breath away

1479
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: how good he was in this game. The Dolphins had

1480
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: absolutely no answer for him when they put Jalen Ramsey

1481
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: on him.

1482
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 2: Sometimes they double him.

1483
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: Like everyone knew on third down they were going to

1484
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 1: Bowers and he was making the hard catches.

1485
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 2: He was making it easy.

1486
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 1: He had seventy eight yards after the catch to making

1487
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: people miss.

1488
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 2: He is freaking awesome.

1489
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll be happy they didn't get Michael Pennox.

1490
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, depends.

1491
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: You would always rather have a quarterback, But man, brock

1492
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: Powers is so freaking good that I think they should

1493
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 1: be thrilled that they have Brock Powers. I'm thrilled to

1494
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: take another break. That's right, We're gonna come back. We're

1495
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 1: gonna talk little Saints, little Browns, and a little coming

1496
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: out party. If a thirty four year old can have

1497
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: a coming out party after the break.

1498
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 6: I totally agree.

1499
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 20: Second and having to chase him again this time less

1500
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 20: had we get to the outside.

1501
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 19: Twenty five thirty Taysom on his feet forty Taysom's gonna

1502
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 19: get it on the sideline forty thirty Taysom twenty ten.

1503
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 7: One a day, see you little bite Taysom Hill. Guess

1504
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 7: but he didn't stuck out the bouch nothing seventy.

1505
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 2: Five yards.

1506
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill with his third rushing touchdown on the day.

1507
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 2: He finishes with one thirty out on the ground. But

1508
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 2: that's not all. He finished with eight catches in fifty

1509
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 2: yards through the air. But that's not all.

1510
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,440
Speaker 1: He completed one eighteen yard pass and through an interception

1511
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 1: through the air. I mean, don't do the deep deep

1512
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,480
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill throws anymore. But my god, what a performance

1513
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: by Taysom Hill.

1514
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 2: That was my cost. Induce McCallister on w w L.

1515
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 1: Saints win thirty five to fourteen against the Browns in

1516
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 1: a game that was tied, I believe in the fourth

1517
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 1: quarter fourteen all and they just put him on him late.

1518
01:09:59,720 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 2: Nick.

1519
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 1: I know you probably didn't enjoy this as much as

1520
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: Saints fans, but I gotta say I do. Like when

1521
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 1: sports gives you something and like, for all the Saints

1522
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 1: fans that showed up today, it's it's been a bad season.

1523
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 1: You got last week and then you get this Taysom

1524
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 1: Hill game, Like that's a memory. I feel like that

1525
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: people went to that game will remember the Taysom Hill

1526
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 1: game for the rest of their lives in a bad season.

1527
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 1: And that's about as much as I could have hoped

1528
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 1: for in a Saints Brown's matchup at this point in

1529
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: the year.

1530
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 13: I can I can attest to that.

1531
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 4: In twenty ten, the Browns went to the Superdome and

1532
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 4: David Bowen's picked off Drew Brees twice and then both

1533
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 4: back for touchdowns.

1534
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 13: So they do it?

1535
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 4: Does linger in your mind? This was a clastic as

1536
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 4: all right, First, I have to say this real quick. Okay,

1537
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,719
Speaker 4: I am a noted and maybe I keep this under

1538
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 4: the covers a little bit. I'm a noted Taysom Hill

1539
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 4: hater just because I don't like it when people's names

1540
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 4: get thrown into flashpoint topics that are then circulated and

1541
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 4: recycled over and over again.

1542
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 13: So to see Taysom Hill.

1543
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 2: But we're kind of passings, are we aren't we?

1544
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 4: In the postand yeah, do you would think that would

1545
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 4: upset me. But Taysom Hill's role has evolved. We're no

1546
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 4: longer flirting with the idea of him being the full

1547
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 4: time starting quarterback, and that interception would show you why.

1548
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 4: He is still a very threatening ball carrier. And he

1549
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 4: ran through those Brown's arm tackles like it. Who was

1550
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 4: the easiest job in the world. He was fantastic today

1551
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 4: and Drew Brees or not Drew Brees, Derek Carr, excuse me,

1552
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 4: was also fantastic for the most part.

1553
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 13: A couple of really good games for him. I mean

1554
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 13: the Saints.

1555
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 4: Look, I'm not going to buy in and be like, oh,

1556
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 4: they're turning it around, but it's nice for them to

1557
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 4: have a couple of really good positive weeks under Darren

1558
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,799
Speaker 4: Rizzy and this time they did it without a clog toilet,

1559
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 4: So good on the Janitors.

1560
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 1: Jamis after the game was caught on video just going

1561
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: up to hug his old teammate Taysom Hill and just

1562
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 1: said you are amazing man. And he did it with

1563
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: a look in his eyes like that that was like,

1564
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,759
Speaker 1: that was JC right there, like that. He was praying

1565
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: to Taysom Hill after the game. He said, when you're

1566
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 1: playing against one of the best all time athletes the

1567
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 1: NFL has ever seen.

1568
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 2: You have to come with it.

1569
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 1: He was prepared and he did a great job today,

1570
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: And I do think there is something to that. Taysom

1571
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 1: Hills teammates are always like, man, this guy is amazing,

1572
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,640
Speaker 1: like what he's at practice and everything, and so you

1573
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: just appreciate that the Taysom Hill Yes game of all.

1574
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,839
Speaker 3: Time literally literally, And you questioned the Taysom Hill deep shots,

1575
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 3: I think they'd heeded it. Like the Brown's getting that

1576
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 3: Taysom Hill interception had the secondary salivating to the point

1577
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 3: where it's like, all right, we got to buckle in

1578
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 3: here because Taysom's throwing the rock and that was it.

1579
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 3: The two attempts, one completion for eighteen yards and then

1580
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 3: the interception as well, but one hundred and thirty eight

1581
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 3: yards on the ground.

1582
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 6: Taysom Hill average nineteen yards of carry.

1583
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 3: Like the pass is such a factor where it's like

1584
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 3: we don't want to get beat by Taysom Hill, So yeah,

1585
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 3: have them go in there and throw a pick. Otherwise,

1586
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 3: you know, keep balls away from Alvin Camara where the

1587
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 3: defenses is thinking that it's a give but but no,

1588
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 3: it's Taysom it's Taysom every time?

1589
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 6: Man, Why wouldn't it be.

1590
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 1: I'll never forget with their great friend Chris Wesleing, who

1591
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 1: this studio is named after, after that Vikings Saints play

1592
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 1: off game and him just standing on the table and saying,

1593
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill was the best player in that game. He

1594
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 1: was the best athlete, he was the best player. And

1595
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: I was like you back then, I was getting sick

1596
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,600
Speaker 1: of Taysom Hill before it even happened. I was like,

1597
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 1: this man had six touches. Can we calm down on

1598
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 1: the Taysom Hill off it all? And now here he

1599
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:20,639
Speaker 1: is thirty four years old and he's somehow better than ever.

1600
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 1: They use him better than ever Clint Kubiak with a

1601
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 1: nice game plan. I mean, look, if Valdez Scantling is

1602
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 1: getting a seventy yard touchdown every week, I mean, and

1603
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 1: Derek Carr it only had six incompletions against pretty good secondary,

1604
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,640
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty yards and two touchdowns. And your

1605
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 1: number one receiver other than Valdas Scantling the last couple

1606
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 1: of weeks is Kevin Austen. And you're winning games in

1607
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 1: the NFL. I'm giving you a lot of credit Darren Rizzy.

1608
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 1: Let's go, Let's go Rizzy.

1609
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 10: Oh.

1610
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 4: Also, Dante Pettis almost had a punt return for a touchdown,

1611
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 4: but his half of his foot stepped out barely, which

1612
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 4: is why they said didn't step out of bounds that

1613
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 4: time on the hill run. That would have been cool too,

1614
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 4: considering all the places he's been in his NFL career.

1615
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 13: What a bunch of people he could root for.

1616
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: Low moment for the sefan Ski Era two and eight,

1617
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 1: the defense maybe collapse in a little you know, maybe

1618
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 1: if you started Jamis and fantasy, you're like, wait, they

1619
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,759
Speaker 1: had a bad day. I mean he had three ninety

1620
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:16,719
Speaker 1: five and two touchdowns, but it's pretty dark for your Browns.

1621
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 13: Yeah, not much good to say about them.

1622
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 4: The tackling crumbled on the back end, and their offense

1623
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 4: is still around.

1624
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 13: I mean Jamis did a good job. Like if Week one.

1625
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 4: For Jameis's first start against the Ravens was like the

1626
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 4: high point, like the productive side, You're gonna get the

1627
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 4: lot touchdowns out of him, and then the second start

1628
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:34,959
Speaker 4: was all the bad parts, which is all the turnovers,

1629
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 4: the three picks. This is like right in between, you know,

1630
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 4: like did enough to lead a couple of touchdown drives,

1631
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 4: couldn't convert in the fourth quarter in a close game.

1632
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 4: Defense doesn't do its job, and next thing you know,

1633
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 4: you're down twenty one points with a few minutes left

1634
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 4: in the game.

1635
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: Well, we've been talking all season how many teams have

1636
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: two or three losses this year? Right now it's nine

1637
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 1: different teams. Cleveland is in third place in Tankathon at

1638
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 1: two and eight. The Saints now after a couple of

1639
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 1: wins at four and seven. Who knows, maybe the NFC

1640
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 1: South is up for gods, let's go to Tennessee, where

1641
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 1: the Titans have been out of the mix and in

1642
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 1: the mix for that number one overall pick.

1643
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 11: Darnold back to pass hit as he throws finds Addison

1644
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:20,520
Speaker 11: over the medal twenty five twenty preside ten to five touchdown.

1645
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 2: Jordan Addison, with his fourth.

1646
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 8: Touchdown this season, hits a forty seven yard strike from

1647
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 8: Sam The man on the fan.

1648
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 1: That was Paul Allen on kfan, Jordan Addison feels like

1649
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: he only makes awesome, big time catches.

1650
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 2: He's like the poor man's Devonte Smith. But I don't

1651
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 2: want to call him a.

1652
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 1: Poor man's anything, because he's an outstanding number two receiver.

1653
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:53,600
Speaker 1: Vikings win twenty three to thirteen in Tennessee.

1654
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 2: Kind of the game.

1655
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 1: Everyone expected, really like nothing too crazy, right, but they're

1656
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: in control, not like a crazy blot.

1657
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong, patchck Well.

1658
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 3: I was just thinking gaus coming off of that dreadful

1659
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 3: game by Sam Donald.

1660
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 6: We have the turnovers.

1661
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 3: He actually injures his hand trying to make a play

1662
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 3: after one of his own turnovers against Jacksonville. Now he's

1663
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 3: another game against an AFC South opponent where.

1664
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,919
Speaker 6: I think this was This game was better than Sam Donald's.

1665
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 3: That line, he was twenty of thirty two for two

1666
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 3: forty six, got the ball to nine different receivers. That

1667
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 3: touchdown that we heard there the touchdown to Jordan Addison

1668
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 3: with pressure around his feet. He had one hundred and

1669
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 3: forty one quarterback rating under pressure in this game. Pressured

1670
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 3: on thirty two percent of his dropbacks. He was good

1671
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 3: in the pocket, had a couple of throws on the

1672
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 3: run where we didn't necessarily know what we were going

1673
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 3: to get from this Minnesota Vikings offense. I think it

1674
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 3: was a bounce back. Of course, justin Jefferson had a

1675
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 3: solid game. And then I always side the Titans had

1676
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 3: a few big plays go the other way. Wasn't just

1677
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 3: that Jordan Addison touchdown. Calvin Ridley had a fifty one

1678
01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 3: yard touchdown called back due to a late legal shift

1679
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 3: that really didn't have anything to do with the play.

1680
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 3: There was also an unsportsman white call on coach Callahan

1681
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:09,560
Speaker 3: because they got an unnecessary roughness on a third and

1682
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 3: goal that actually gave the Vikings a first and goal

1683
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 3: at the one yard line that you could say that

1684
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 3: the contact wasn't to the head and neck area was

1685
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,719
Speaker 3: a shot to the chest. He lost his mind after

1686
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 3: that got an unsportsmanlike Darnald scored on the next play.

1687
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 6: So there's there are spots here where this.

1688
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 3: Titans team showed a little bit of fight, yeah, but

1689
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 3: just the same type of mistakes that has them with

1690
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 3: the record that they do.

1691
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 1: They also had a ninety eight yard touchdown. And there's

1692
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 1: been so few moments to hear from Mike Keith on

1693
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:38,759
Speaker 1: this show all season.

1694
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 2: Go to touchdown.

1695
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 1: I have not heard this call, But if you're gonna

1696
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 1: give me a ninety eight yard Titans touchdown, I'm going

1697
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:45,760
Speaker 1: to listen to it.

1698
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 8: Six men sent to rush Levis forby Senzo firing deep

1699
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 8: down field for Westbrook.

1700
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 2: A key ain't got it. Forty fifty, forty thirty, twenty ten.

1701
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:04,560
Speaker 16: God, it's a touchdops.

1702
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:09,440
Speaker 7: The longest touchdown pass of the year in the National

1703
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 7: Football League out ninety eight year.

1704
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:16,719
Speaker 2: Put that on the Calls of the Year or less.

1705
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 1: That was by Keith of WGFX, a man whose voice

1706
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 1: is so distinctive.

1707
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 2: Shook uh somehow, Walker my son knew it.

1708
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 1: Like I heard him say, like while playing Madden Touchdown Titans.

1709
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 2: I was like, wait, you know, Mike Keith, that is amazing.

1710
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 1: But he's like watched enough of like the highlights videos

1711
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 1: on NFL that he knows it. So a little bit

1712
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 1: of levity there for the Titans. And Levis has been

1713
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 1: better by the way since he's been benched. If you

1714
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 1: want to look for some positives.

1715
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, he's slowly getting back to where you know,

1716
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 13: they want him to be.

1717
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 4: I think anybody who roots for quarterbacks wants him to

1718
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 4: be because you see the potential there in between. Now

1719
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 4: I am now kind of rooting for a ninety nine

1720
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 4: yard Will Levis touchdown pass. Just sucking here, yeah one

1721
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 4: more time.

1722
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 2: Yes, that was what did it for me? I love that.

1723
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, credit to Darnold for having a good game on

1724
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 1: a day where they couldn't.

1725
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:08,919
Speaker 2: Run the ball. A little bit concerned.

1726
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 1: I think Aaron Jones and when it was Cam Akers

1727
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 1: who that wasn't working either, But Aaron Jones is kind

1728
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: of and their running game hasn't been really working well

1729
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 1: that that might be where they missed Christian darrisa as well,

1730
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,719
Speaker 1: not just in the passing game. So on a day

1731
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,799
Speaker 1: like that, to be able to cruise and be efficient

1732
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 1: and obviously have Brian Flores do his whole thing, that

1733
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 1: that's huge. They're eight and two, only one loss behind

1734
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 1: the Lions here and Kevin O'Connell feeling a little uh

1735
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 1: chesty after the game.

1736
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 22: I'm old enough to remember when nobody thought we were

1737
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 22: very good. So the same way that I answered that question,

1738
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 22: I'll answer it now. We just got to continue to

1739
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 22: get better improve. Eight and two means absolutely nothing.

1740
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 6: Name names, koc yeah, put them on blast.

1741
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Who is eight and two does mean something?

1742
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 1: It means you're very likely to make the playoff based

1743
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 1: on your schedule and that you absolutely have a chance

1744
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 1: like we talked to like, oh the Eagles, do they

1745
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 1: have a chance of the one seats like, I don't

1746
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,839
Speaker 1: think the Vikings are gonna get there, but they're literally

1747
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,640
Speaker 1: just one game back and we have some head to

1748
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 1: head coming up, so they absolutely could do it.

1749
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 2: Big time job by the Vikings.

1750
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 1: They did what have good teams do, which is they've

1751
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 1: taken care of business all season long and beaten the

1752
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 1: bad teams. And they had this little run against the

1753
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 1: three bad AFC South teams and they beat them all

1754
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: like a couple were ugly Colts and Jags, Titans, you

1755
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 1: went on the road. Good job by them, speaking of,

1756
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 1: you know, a mismatched NFC North versus AFC South matchup.

1757
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,639
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to Lions and Jaguars next. But before

1758
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 1: we do that, we're just gonna say goodbye to Patrick

1759
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 1: Clayband because Kevin Patrick coming atcha is gonna do a

1760
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 1: couple games with me and then Shook, you'll come back

1761
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,639
Speaker 1: with me to finish up with Sunday Night football.

1762
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 2: Patrick. I hope we've brightened your mood since since this

1763
01:20:58,840 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 2: all starts.

1764
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,600
Speaker 3: Oh, it's all We're it's always bright. What what is

1765
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 3: life without football? And if not for the losses, we

1766
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 3: couldn't appreciate the wins.

1767
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that really does Buddha like, let's go to Detroit.

1768
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:15,640
Speaker 20: Fossil plunder center turned takes the kid to Jimmy.

1769
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 8: Or throws end zone, caught Monross Saint Crown touchdown.

1770
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions go off with the chart.

1771
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 5: Fourteen is having a day, sixteen is having a day.

1772
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:30,679
Speaker 2: This whole team is having a day. If it's Sunday.

1773
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 2: It's a great call by Dan Miller of w x YT.

1774
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 1: That was the seventh Lions touchdown on the seventh Lions drive.

1775
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 1: At the time, it was forty nine to six. They

1776
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 1: close out the Jaguars, potentially close out Doug Peterson's career

1777
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 1: with the Jaguars with a fifty two to six victory.

1778
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 2: More on Peterson in a second.

1779
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,599
Speaker 1: Kevin Patris here live in the good life as a

1780
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: Lions fan. It's their first eight game winning streak since

1781
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 1: nineteen thirty four. I don't know if your grandparents were

1782
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 1: alive back then.

1783
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 23: They were, My grandparents were. Okay, That's all that's about

1784
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 23: all I know.

1785
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 1: I you know, Steve Belichick might have been on that team.

1786
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 1: Who knows he was at some point? What a team

1787
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 1: this is before we get to the Jaguars of it all,

1788
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 1: because that is interesting to me, like, just explain what

1789
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 1: stood out the most to you in this version of

1790
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 1: offensive excellence of in terms of their performance.

1791
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 23: How easy it was. They literally it was like seven

1792
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 23: on seven out there for golf. It was hilariously. It

1793
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 23: was hilarious, Like you knew on third down, second down

1794
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 23: or third down. I was like, okay, this is going

1795
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 23: to be a first down. It was so I'm gonna

1796
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 23: have Sam Brown. They could not stop eleven for eleven

1797
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:53,679
Speaker 23: for one hundred and sixty one yards. Anytime, yes, anytime

1798
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 23: there was a question mark, it was like, yeah, this

1799
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 23: is going to same Brown and it's going to be

1800
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 23: a first down. They had two of their first three

1801
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 23: d they didn't even get third to third down. They

1802
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 23: didn't hit one third down in two of their three

1803
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 23: first drives touchdown drives. Like it was offensive efficiency at

1804
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 23: its finest, and the offensive line gets a lot of credit.

1805
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,600
Speaker 23: But they really won this game. I mean Walker and

1806
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 23: Heinz Heinz Allen had a few pressures, but Goff had

1807
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 23: all day. He could have had three tea parties back

1808
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 23: there and then made a throw and it would have

1809
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 23: gone for a first down.

1810
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 1: They had thirty eight first downs in this game. Yeah,

1811
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 1: I gotta admit I did not see that until just now.

1812
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 1: I can't imagine there are many teams in the history

1813
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:37,759
Speaker 1: of the NFL that I've ever had thirty eight first downs.

1814
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, what the heck was?

1815
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 23: It was crazy because I said, the last time when

1816
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 23: they whooped the Titans and they scored fifty plus points,

1817
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 23: they had a lot of short fields and the defense

1818
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 23: got turnovers that didn't happen today. It was literally like

1819
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,719
Speaker 23: seventy yard drive, eighty yard drive, forty fifty yard drives,

1820
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,719
Speaker 23: sixty five yard drives, seventy two yard drive. It was unreal.

1821
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,680
Speaker 23: Eight point five yards per play. I mean, Jamo went

1822
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 23: for one hundred and twenty four. Gibbs had one hundred

1823
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 23: and twenty three scrimmage yards. I mean, I don't know

1824
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 23: what David Montgomery is doing only getting seventy five rushing

1825
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:09,639
Speaker 23: yards and two touchdowns. Like, yeah, what a bad day,

1826
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 23: you know.

1827
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 1: So it's a franchise record of six hundred and forty

1828
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 1: five yards of offense. They are the first team to

1829
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 1: score a touchdown on their first seven drives since the

1830
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven Patriots. In terms of Lions history,

1831
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 1: it's the first since at least nineteen thirty three. They

1832
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 1: just you know, don't go back that far. There are

1833
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 1: just so many different stats you can come up with,

1834
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 1: you know that many yardage is a lot of fun

1835
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 1: and Montgomery and Gibbs getting it done every week, Jamison

1836
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 1: Williams having that moment where he spins and he has

1837
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:46,799
Speaker 1: the sixty four yard touchdown. That's his second receiving touchdown

1838
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 1: of over sixty yards. It's it's just awesome. They are

1839
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 1: a historic group, Kevin. And just before we get to

1840
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 1: the giantrations, and I'm not going to ask you this

1841
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 1: each time we have you onto the Lions team, but

1842
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 1: just at this moment in time, I just do want

1843
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 1: to know what it's like to be a liance fan

1844
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 1: and the people around you and everything like that.

1845
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 23: It's it's insane, like as Liones, like, the mentality has

1846
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 23: always been like, Okay, we're gonna probably lose this week,

1847
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 23: but if we win, it's fun and just talking of

1848
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:16,679
Speaker 23: friends and stuff. Like now it's like, no, we're winning,

1849
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 23: Like there was no question walking into this game. And

1850
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 23: like the Jags kicked a fifty nine yard field goal

1851
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 23: on the first drive and it felt like the JV

1852
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 23: like golf clap, you know, jv team scoring on the

1853
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 23: varsity team golf clap going on, like, okay, you had

1854
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 23: your fun and now the real team's gonna gonna get

1855
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 23: the ball and just gonna march down the field.

1856
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 15: It was.

1857
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 23: It was a mismatch that you rarely see on NFL level.

1858
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:41,679
Speaker 23: Usually when there's a blowout, there's folly from the other team.

1859
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 23: It was just four play on one side and awesome

1860
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 23: ex execution on the other.

1861
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 1: It sounds crazy, but I actually am glad that they

1862
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 1: had this sort of performance, just because the last couple

1863
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 1: of weeks that Titans game was weird. Their offense didn't

1864
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 1: need to do anything, but they really didn't do that much.

1865
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 1: And then that the Texans game. You're a little off

1866
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 1: kilter if you're playing defense.

1867
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 2: Is bad.

1868
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: Ryan Nielsen, Man, this it's bad. It's so bad. So

1869
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 1: let's get into the Jaguars of it all. First of all,

1870
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 1: or lastly, Alex Azeloni could be out sixty eight weeks

1871
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 1: with a broken big forearm, which could put him back

1872
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 1: for the playoffs. So that's disappointing for the Lions, but

1873
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 1: they could get him back for the playoffs. So the man,

1874
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 1: they've had a lot of injuries. Zadarias Smith also played

1875
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 1: in this game and apparently looked pretty good.

1876
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 23: He was pretty solid. He led the team with four

1877
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 23: pressures and had half a sack. It was solid for

1878
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:31,679
Speaker 23: a first performance. I would say he definitely brings something

1879
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 23: to the lineup, but they're just they They're still gonna

1880
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 23: be working progress upfront. That's just how they're going to

1881
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 23: be right the year.

1882
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:39,720
Speaker 1: The Culton Pouncey, who does a great job with the

1883
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 1: athletic and has a podcast you guys should check out.

1884
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 1: He said this thing a couple of times, and he

1885
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 1: keeps repeating, which I think is true. When you have

1886
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:51,639
Speaker 1: safeties that hit like linebackers and cover like cornerbacks, and

1887
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 1: you know, and catch the ball like wide receivers, it's

1888
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 1: like you're gonna go far. This safety tannum is absolutely electric.

1889
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 1: Brian branch is a Defensive Player of the Year candidate. Okay,

1890
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 1: let's get to the I was really bothered, excuse me

1891
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 1: for a second, to rant patra by the reports that

1892
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 1: had been building for weeks frankly that Peterson could get

1893
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 1: let go after this game. And if you just watch

1894
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 1: around and you listen to what reporters are saying, in

1895
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 1: different little whispers and stuff. I just was seeing it

1896
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 1: pick up, and then it was really picking up last

1897
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 1: week that like, well, this could be his last week.

1898
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 1: And then our our national reporter, Ian Rapport, who's doing

1899
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 1: a good job reporting this. It is no shame, no

1900
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 1: slight to Ian, but basically reports on Saturday night that

1901
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,799
Speaker 1: this could be Peterson's last game, which, if you really

1902
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 1: dig down deep into it, it's like Doug Peterson knows

1903
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 1: going into this game he's gonna get fired after this game, and.

1904
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 2: That that does bother me.

1905
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 1: And people could say, well, he's a millionaire and he's

1906
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 1: a bet he's doing a bad coach. It's just like yeah,

1907
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 1: but that's why bad organizations stay bad. It's like you

1908
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 1: don't have to let all the happen, and if you're

1909
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 1: doing it, just do it. Don't tell everyone that you're

1910
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 1: gonna fire the guy for weeks on end, because these

1911
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,640
Speaker 1: little whispers don't get that out there by accident. So

1912
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 1: the team went into this game kind of knowing their

1913
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: coach was getting get fired. Doug Peter that this is

1914
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:19,719
Speaker 1: what I believe. He hasn't gotten fired yet, so we'll see.

1915
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but I suspect he's going

1916
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 1: to get fired. I'm going to continue ranting here and like,

1917
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 1: this is the same organization that also thought it was

1918
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 1: smart to hire Urban Meyer.

1919
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 2: You know, this is the same.

1920
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 1: Organization that I like, they've made so many mistakes organizationally

1921
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 1: over the years that they thought it was a good

1922
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 1: idea to keep Trent balk For instance, We'll see if Trent.

1923
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 2: Balk keeps his snap, they might still keep him.

1924
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 1: There's a report for Pro Football Talk that it could

1925
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 1: be a Trent Balki that stays there with Bill Belichick.

1926
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 2: Balki was there with Urban Meyer. You just can't kill

1927
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 2: this guy, and.

1928
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 23: So I picked Trayvon Walker over Agent Hutchinson. Like, come on,

1929
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 23: right right there, look at the trajectory of these two

1930
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 23: teams that just played on the field. They were both

1931
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:10,600
Speaker 23: one and two in the draft, ones dominating in the

1932
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 23: other just floundering.

1933
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 2: Now, there wasn't the other way.

1934
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 1: There was actually an article in The Athletic before the

1935
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 1: start of the twenty twenty three season comparing these two

1936
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 1: organizations as two teams that have rebuilt and like, which

1937
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 1: organization is in a better spot?

1938
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 6: Right?

1939
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 1: Because the Jaguars are coming off that strong end to

1940
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 1: their season with Trevor Lawrence and now like the whole

1941
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 1: way it went down just to me shows why bad

1942
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 1: organizations stay bad. And yes, I'm trying to think of

1943
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 1: like the other way that they've blown things lately and

1944
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 1: it's just not even worth it. But anything you want

1945
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 1: to say about the Doug Peterson era, because I think

1946
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 1: it's over.

1947
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:52,560
Speaker 23: It is certainly over. I mean the defense is ridiculously

1948
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,679
Speaker 23: disappointing at this I mean, they switched to coordinators this year,

1949
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 23: all the talk off seasons how they're going to be

1950
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 23: more physical, and they just got blown up like this.

1951
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 23: There there's three three games started with teams with that

1952
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 23: scored touchdowns on their first five possessions. Two of them

1953
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 23: were the Jags that gave up the Bills in Week

1954
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 23: three and then today, uh and then the Cowboys against

1955
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 23: the Saint The Saints put it on the Cowboys. So

1956
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:17,720
Speaker 23: those were the three games, and two of them came

1957
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,719
Speaker 23: against the Jags d like it's and then Mac Jones,

1958
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 23: I mean, what do you what is there to say

1959
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 23: he couldn't keep the ball in Bountance to save his life,

1960
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 23: Like he had a couple of deep shots that he

1961
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:29,400
Speaker 23: could have connected on and they were five feet out

1962
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:29,719
Speaker 23: of bounds.

1963
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 1: Okay, let's listen to Peterson after the game asking, you know,

1964
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 1: asked if he's coached his last game?

1965
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:37,639
Speaker 24: You know what, I can't I can't control of that.

1966
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:42,559
Speaker 24: And and you know, listen, I've been I've been around

1967
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:47,400
Speaker 24: this league a long time, and you know, if it's

1968
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:49,720
Speaker 24: gonna happen, it's gonna happen, obviously. But but at the

1969
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 24: same time, I still have a job to do and

1970
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 24: and and that's to you know, you know, get ready

1971
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:59,759
Speaker 24: for you know, a good division opponent here in two weeks.

1972
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have a bye, and uh, don't expect it'll

1973
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 1: be himy coaching afterwards.

1974
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:07,799
Speaker 2: It'll probably be Mike McCoy.

1975
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 1: Great career with Philadelphia getting the Super Bowl championship, probably

1976
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 1: the last time we'll see him as a head coach.

1977
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 2: Good guy.

1978
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 1: We'll see if he, you know, decides the coach again

1979
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:22,599
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Let's go to a Jets team which

1980
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 1: already changed their coaches, but trying to keep their season

1981
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:26,840
Speaker 1: alive against the Colts.

1982
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 6: Third and goal for Indianapolis.

1983
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 2: They are five for fourteen today on third down.

1984
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 6: This is big Richardson out of the gun, he said

1985
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:35,799
Speaker 6: off left edge.

1986
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:43,799
Speaker 25: Into the inone touchdown, Anthony Richardson his second rushing touchdown

1987
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 25: today and the Colts with the score right there, lead twenty.

1988
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:52,680
Speaker 2: Seven with forty six seconds to go. That would be

1989
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 2: the final score.

1990
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:57,760
Speaker 1: That was Matt Taylor and Rick Van Turrey w f

1991
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:04,040
Speaker 1: N I yes, and Danny Richardson needed two touchdown drives

1992
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter to come from behind and get

1993
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 1: a victory to keep his team in the wild card mix.

1994
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:14,679
Speaker 2: And you know what he did. It maybe the best

1995
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 2: day of his career.

1996
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:20,599
Speaker 1: And yes, it helps that the man can truck stick

1997
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 1: a defender on the goal line. Had a touchdown earlier

1998
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:26,439
Speaker 1: in the game that was very impressive to get the

1999
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 1: Colts out to a ten to nothing lead. The Jets

2000
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 1: looked dead in the water for most of the first

2001
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:34,960
Speaker 1: app didn't have a first down until you know, two

2002
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:35,600
Speaker 1: minutes to go.

2003
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:37,760
Speaker 2: But they actually come back and leave this.

2004
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 1: Game twenty four to sixteen before the Colts storing back.

2005
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 1: Kind of a fun game, KP. I mean, you changed

2006
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 1: the assignments you wanted this game and you got a

2007
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 1: good one.

2008
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 6: I did.

2009
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:52,559
Speaker 23: Yeah, it was started out. The Colts started out strong,

2010
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:54,640
Speaker 23: you know, thirteen to nothing and Anthony Richardson made some

2011
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:57,719
Speaker 23: His second pass was the one of the worst screen

2012
01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 23: short screens you'll ever see. Was kind of like, oh,

2013
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 23: sure we were he.

2014
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:03,000
Speaker 6: Back to this and then that.

2015
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 23: By the third drive, he settled in and he made

2016
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 23: some very very nice throws, like darts over the middle.

2017
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 23: I think he was like sixty six percent completion percentage,

2018
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 23: which for him is ridict awesome. Yeah, compared to what

2019
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 23: he his forty four percent coming into the day. So

2020
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:22,639
Speaker 23: he had career two hundred and seventy two yards, two past,

2021
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 23: two touchdown passes, two runs, and his he's such a

2022
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 23: threat in the red zone, dude, Like that's what That's

2023
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 23: where he makes a difference. Like he's Josh Allen but bigger.

2024
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 23: Like he's just so physical, Like you cannot stop that

2025
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 23: that run they showed, you cannot stop that. I don't

2026
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:40,680
Speaker 23: care who you are, you're not standing him up. So

2027
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:43,599
Speaker 23: he played with a lot more calmness than we've seen,

2028
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 23: like before he went to the bench, Like I really

2029
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 23: wondered early when he made a couple missthrows whether he

2030
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 23: was gonna just keep getting scattershot, and he really calmed down.

2031
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 23: I think that's the part of the game that they

2032
01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:57,640
Speaker 23: wanted him to work on the mental part, and he

2033
01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:00,240
Speaker 23: really did settle down. Now their offense went in tank

2034
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 23: a little bit. They couldn't run the ball, but he

2035
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 23: when they needed it, he made the throws. He made

2036
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 23: a few darts over the middle, like when he throws

2037
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:10,680
Speaker 23: his fastball. It's it's great, it's awesome. Like over the

2038
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 23: middle to Josh Downs is perfect. I would throw that

2039
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 23: pass like twenty times a game for like that fifteen yarder.

2040
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 23: It's great.

2041
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 2: Occasionally he can throw a little bit of touch.

2042
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 1: He almost overshot Downs, who's just one of the best

2043
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:25,360
Speaker 1: hands catchers in the league, who made a really great

2044
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 1: over the shoulder catch. He ends up with five for

2045
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:30,719
Speaker 1: eighty four and a touchdown on five targets. So Josh Downs,

2046
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 1: fantasy owners like me out there, maybe there is life here.

2047
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 1: With Anthony Richardson, he had gotten most of his yards

2048
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 1: with Joe Flacco, and then.

2049
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:41,639
Speaker 2: The whole shot that Pierce threw to Pierce.

2050
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:44,639
Speaker 1: I mean that Richardson through to Pierce on the game

2051
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 1: winning drive was just that thing of beauty over Sasce Gardner.

2052
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 1: Sas Gardner's really been struggling, whether it's in coverage, giving

2053
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:55,880
Speaker 1: up some place here to downs and to pierce. Not

2054
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 1: great tackling, but that was just a beautiful throw. Richardson

2055
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 1: finishes nine of twelve on throws over ten yards. According

2056
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:06,840
Speaker 1: to next Gen Stats, that's the fifth highest percentage on

2057
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 1: throws over ten yards of any quarterback all year with

2058
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 1: at least ten throws in the game. So pretty like

2059
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 1: it couldn't have gone better. This was a good feeling

2060
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 1: victory for them.

2061
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 23: He'll miss the he'll miss some short stuffs, but when

2062
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 23: he has his fastball, is that fifteen yard dark like,

2063
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:23,720
Speaker 23: just let it rip and he can do it.

2064
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:24,960
Speaker 2: Yep.

2065
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:26,600
Speaker 23: And this is this is the type of game we

2066
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 23: wanted to see when at the beginning of the year started.

2067
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 23: This is the game we thought use his legs. He

2068
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 23: had ten rushes for like thirty forty yards, two touchdowns,

2069
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 23: and then he mixed in some good, good intermediate throws.

2070
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 1: You know, Seenstiken after the game looked so happy, so relieved.

2071
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 1: It just saved just like exactly what they want. Now

2072
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 1: they have the Lions next week, and they have a

2073
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 1: tough game in Denver after they're buy in about three weeks,

2074
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,680
Speaker 1: so this team still has a pretty tough road to

2075
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 1: the playoffs. At five and six, So they do have

2076
01:35:56,560 --> 01:36:00,479
Speaker 1: a bunch of games where they'll be favored Patriots, Giants, Titans,

2077
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 1: in Jaguars, so they could get to eight nine wins

2078
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 1: something like that. But I just think this game, the

2079
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:09,719
Speaker 1: way they won it and the point of the season

2080
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:12,400
Speaker 1: it was at, it's going to calm everything down, really

2081
01:36:12,479 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 1: important for them and so happy for them. And eighty

2082
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:17,720
Speaker 1: Mitchell is starting to make plays the last couple of

2083
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 1: weeks too, which which is great.

2084
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:20,800
Speaker 2: Let's flip it to the Jets side.

2085
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 1: There was like a Bronx cheer in met life when

2086
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:25,679
Speaker 1: they finally got their first first down with one forty

2087
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 1: five left, and then they got to go in Patra,

2088
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 1: but ultimately they're one in five since they made the

2089
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:36,599
Speaker 1: coaching change from Robert Sala and one of the reasons

2090
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:39,400
Speaker 1: I think they lost this game is all Brick and

2091
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 1: his game management situations, you know, not deciding to go

2092
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:45,640
Speaker 1: for it on a fourth and two, not going for

2093
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 1: a two point conversion, two decisions which Anthony with Aaron

2094
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 1: Rodgers not so subdly criticized at the podium.

2095
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:54,599
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's going to get a lot of run

2096
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 2: in New York.

2097
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 23: Yeah, the fourth and too late, like to kick the

2098
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 23: field goal to go five, Like, that's proven to be

2099
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 23: one of the worst decisions you can make. Just let

2100
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 23: it be three, or just go for it and try

2101
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:10,040
Speaker 23: to put the game away like the Bills did. But

2102
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 23: he also went for it at fourth down earlier. So

2103
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 23: I don't like the thing coaches that I hate. With

2104
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:17,560
Speaker 23: some coaches, it's pick a strategy and stick with it.

2105
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:19,840
Speaker 23: Be aggressive or don't be aggressive the wishy washing. This

2106
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 23: gets you burned every single time. So like, yet they

2107
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 23: couldn't get a first down to save their lives. I

2108
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 23: was literally found myself yelling at the TV, like what

2109
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:30,960
Speaker 23: are you doing? Because they were It was an amalgam

2110
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:36,000
Speaker 23: of orally blocked runs, awful passes from Rogers. He was

2111
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:39,320
Speaker 23: like so scattershot earlier, like behind Garrett Wilson by like

2112
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 23: four feet, like he's wild.

2113
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 2: It was wild.

2114
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:47,880
Speaker 23: And then they calmed down and Breis Hall made got

2115
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 23: them back in the game basically at the end of

2116
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 23: the half with a great run, catch and run. But

2117
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:57,240
Speaker 23: Rogers's he just doesn't have it. His a dot had

2118
01:37:57,280 --> 01:37:58,680
Speaker 23: to be sold. I didn't look it up, but he

2119
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:01,800
Speaker 23: he had twenty nine pass attempts, four of them were

2120
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 23: over ten yards. Four of them were over ten air yards. Right,

2121
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 23: he's twenty nine pass attempts. He is, it's ridiculously bad.

2122
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a four point two average yard per throw.

2123
01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:14,600
Speaker 1: And yeah, you can see the difference between him and

2124
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 1: Richard said. Richardson averaged nine per throw, which for him

2125
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:21,639
Speaker 1: is actually quite low. So that means he's getting under control.

2126
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 1: But yeah, Rogers is cooked. You can see the plays mentally,

2127
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:28,720
Speaker 1: and you can see the positive plays, but when athletes

2128
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:32,679
Speaker 1: age poorly, it's that, Yeah, you can make the play sometime,

2129
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:35,559
Speaker 1: but you can't make them consistently. And he's playing without

2130
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 1: a lot of confidence. He wants to clear his head

2131
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:39,720
Speaker 1: during their by they're at three and eight. I mean

2132
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:42,880
Speaker 1: their season has been over, but it's extra over now.

2133
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 23: At three four straight games without a three hundred yard

2134
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 23: passing day in twenty twenty three and four like or

2135
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 23: twenty two four like, that's a long time in this

2136
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:53,200
Speaker 23: day and age to go without a three hundred yard

2137
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:53,719
Speaker 23: passing yea.

2138
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:56,080
Speaker 1: If they had a developmental quarterback, this would be the

2139
01:38:56,120 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 1: time that they would go to it.

2140
01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:57,760
Speaker 2: But they don't.

2141
01:38:57,840 --> 01:38:59,719
Speaker 1: So you do wonder if these are the final days

2142
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers in the NFL. We can talk about

2143
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:04,760
Speaker 1: that later in the year, but first we got to

2144
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 1: talk about Sunday night football. Thank you, Kevin Patra Coming ahead, guys,

2145
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:13,639
Speaker 1: straight from Detroit. Enjoy you know all your newfound success.

2146
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 1: The Tigers have a fun season. The Lions are a juggernaut.

2147
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 1: Even the Pistons are winning some games. Goodloos. They look

2148
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:24,640
Speaker 1: like a good young team. All right, let's go to

2149
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 1: Sofi Stadium across the street.

2150
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 15: Burrow taps his helmet, takes the snap. They bring an

2151
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 15: extra body to rush. He throws to the end zone.

2152
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:38,800
Speaker 15: It's in the air and it is incomplete. Chargers win.

2153
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 15: The Chargers win, thirty four twenty seven. Derwin knocks it down.

2154
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:50,640
Speaker 1: That was our friend Matt money Smith on k y

2155
01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:56,559
Speaker 1: s R. Chargers hold on for a wild thirty four

2156
01:39:57,240 --> 01:40:00,719
Speaker 1: to twenty seven victory in one of the the longest

2157
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:02,520
Speaker 1: games of the season.

2158
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 2: That ended in regulation.

2159
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 1: That thing took three hours and forty minutes. In one

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01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 1: of the craziest games that we've seen all season, Chargers

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01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:13,640
Speaker 1: blow a twenty one point lead in the matter of

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01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:15,679
Speaker 1: minutes in the second half.

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01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 2: They're chargering the hell out of this, but you know

2164
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 2: it was stronger.

2165
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 1: Nick shook as we finish off this fun Week eleven

2166
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 1: recap the twenty twenty four Bengals. We need a nickname

2167
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:29,639
Speaker 1: for them because here's what they do each and every week.

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01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:34,479
Speaker 1: Their offense plays fantastic, Joe Burrow has MVP quality stats,

2169
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:37,280
Speaker 1: but the rest of the team comes up short. And

2170
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:41,599
Speaker 1: in the end, it's often the Bengals offense that has

2171
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:44,360
Speaker 1: a chance to put the game away and Joe Burrow

2172
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 1: and his guys can't get it done either. With a

2173
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:50,920
Speaker 1: little help from Evan McPherson, the Chargers escape. They are

2174
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 1: seven and three and the Bengals are buried.

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01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2176
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:56,960
Speaker 4: Oh, maybe that's the nickname right there, the buried Bengals,

2177
01:40:57,240 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 4: because they can't dig themselves out of the hole they've

2178
01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:02,559
Speaker 4: put themselves in. I mean, Joe Burrow tries as hard

2179
01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:05,680
Speaker 4: as possible to dig them out almost every week. You know,

2180
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:07,200
Speaker 4: there was a period in this game when they were

2181
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:10,120
Speaker 4: still down twenty one points and he got hit on

2182
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 4: a third down where he got blasted from like two

2183
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 4: different directions and he like hits the ground and lays

2184
01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 4: there for a second, was slowing it up, And I wondered,

2185
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 4: is that the hit that sapped the last like desire,

2186
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:23,519
Speaker 4: like burning desire to win out of Joe Burrow. Is

2187
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:25,439
Speaker 4: this the moment where he just gives into the fact

2188
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 4: that the team around him and the way this season's going,

2189
01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:30,120
Speaker 4: you just can't overcome it. And then he comes out

2190
01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 4: and throws three touchdown passes and they tie the game,

2191
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 4: and they getting field goal range twice to potentially take

2192
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:36,720
Speaker 4: the lead, and then his kicker lets him down and

2193
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 4: he tries all the way to the end and they

2194
01:41:38,640 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 4: lose another one.

2195
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:42,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's start with that comeback.

2196
01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:46,679
Speaker 1: So it's twenty seven to six early in the third

2197
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:50,479
Speaker 1: quarter after a short field goal drive by the Chargers

2198
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:53,240
Speaker 1: puts it at that level at that point in the game.

2199
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's absolutely dealing. He's getting protected very well. Joe

2200
01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:02,040
Speaker 1: Burrow and the Bengals offense are a little bit of

2201
01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 1: a mess. They have six total points in their first

2202
01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:08,960
Speaker 1: six drives. They have three straight three and out, So

2203
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 1: the Bengals offense not covering themselves in glory. Chargers defense

2204
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:16,639
Speaker 1: looks so sound, and then the Bengals start getting stops

2205
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:21,680
Speaker 1: and the Chargers offense really runs dry, and the Bengals

2206
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:25,400
Speaker 1: have a drive where they get down close to the

2207
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:28,880
Speaker 1: goal line They're down twenty one points at the time,

2208
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:32,799
Speaker 1: and they spend what felt like about fifteen plays inside

2209
01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:35,080
Speaker 1: the ten yard line, and they keep coming up short,

2210
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:37,519
Speaker 1: and they go backwards, and then they go forwards, and

2211
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 1: then there's a penalty on the Chargers. So you keep

2212
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:42,200
Speaker 1: getting more and more chances, and finally it's fourth and

2213
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 1: goal the game. There certainly have no chance to win

2214
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:47,719
Speaker 1: it if they don't get this, and for some reason

2215
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:50,840
Speaker 1: jesse min are in. The Chargers single up Jamar Chase

2216
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:53,960
Speaker 1: on the outside with Cam Hart, their rookie who went

2217
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:56,760
Speaker 1: out of the game with an injury after this, and

2218
01:42:56,840 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 1: they get a touchdown in single coverage on a zero blitz.

2219
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:03,960
Speaker 1: It's twenty seven thirteen at that point. There are five

2220
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:08,600
Speaker 1: minutes left in the third quarter, roughly seven minutes of

2221
01:43:08,680 --> 01:43:12,840
Speaker 1: game time later, and forty five minutes of actual time later.

2222
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:14,439
Speaker 2: The score is tied.

2223
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 1: The Bengals get a stop, They hit a fourth and

2224
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:22,559
Speaker 1: down to t Higgins who just runs straight through double

2225
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:26,880
Speaker 1: coverage for a forty two yarder on fourth down. Then

2226
01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 1: Herbert fumbles the ball and they get it right back,

2227
01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 1: setting up this Jamar Chase touchdown.

2228
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:34,160
Speaker 2: Let's take a listen.

2229
01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:35,719
Speaker 6: The Bengals will go empty.

2230
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:38,840
Speaker 20: On second down and ten at the seventeen yard line

2231
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:42,920
Speaker 20: of Los Angeles, Burrow catches the shotgun snap against the

2232
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:45,080
Speaker 20: four man rush. He's back pedaling all the way to

2233
01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 20: the thirty throws before getting.

2234
01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 19: Hit into the eight zone in his cock by Jamar

2235
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 19: Chase for the touchdown and the Bengals are.

2236
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:58,559
Speaker 20: A pat away from a racing a twenty one point

2237
01:43:58,680 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 20: deficit this.

2238
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 1: Game, Nick reminded us and of course that that's our

2239
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 1: friends Dan Horde and Dave Lapham on w CK. Why

2240
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 1: it just reminds us how good they are when they

2241
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 1: have t Higgins and Chase. Chase finishes seven for seventy

2242
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:17,720
Speaker 1: five and two touchdowns, although costly kind of drop late

2243
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 1: in the game. T Higgins a nine for one forty

2244
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:22,720
Speaker 1: eight in a touchdown. He jumped so high on one

2245
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:25,879
Speaker 1: attempt for one of those touchdowns. He looks so athletic

2246
01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:27,760
Speaker 1: in this game, like they are a different team with

2247
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:29,720
Speaker 1: those two dudes. But I bring it to that point

2248
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 1: just to point out that, like that comeback was so

2249
01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:35,320
Speaker 1: fast and so big. Oh, there hasn't been a team

2250
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:39,040
Speaker 1: that won coming back from twenty one down in over

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01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:41,560
Speaker 1: a year, Like it's hard to do that and we

2252
01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:44,800
Speaker 1: still had all this time left in the game. There

2253
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 1: was like a whole other game that was played after

2254
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 1: that point. It was almost like they came back too fast.

2255
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:51,680
Speaker 1: I don't even I don't even know how that makes sense,

2256
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:53,880
Speaker 1: because they got the ball three more times after that,

2257
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:56,519
Speaker 1: but somehow they didn't score after that because of the

2258
01:44:56,640 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 1: McPherson misses and a couple good plays by the Chargers defense.

2259
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, if you operate with the idea that

2260
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:04,680
Speaker 4: there's finite energy in a football team, it's almost as

2261
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:06,160
Speaker 4: if they ran out of gas. But they did it

2262
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:08,439
Speaker 4: like they still got in scoring range, but they had

2263
01:45:08,479 --> 01:45:10,760
Speaker 4: to storm back from such a deficit that it did

2264
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 4: expend a lot of energy. But it also illustrates again

2265
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:16,479
Speaker 4: what we've known about these Bengals all year, because this, essentially,

2266
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:19,599
Speaker 4: to me, was the Washington game, This was both Baltimore games.

2267
01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:21,679
Speaker 4: Like we've seen this from the Beans. They've been able

2268
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:24,280
Speaker 4: to bit yeah a little bit. Yeah, they've been able

2269
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 4: to explode. In fact, there was a there was a

2270
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:27,519
Speaker 4: third down coon version that they didn't get where Chase

2271
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:29,360
Speaker 4: jumped up for the ball and the dB got there

2272
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 4: at the perfect time, and it was almost like the

2273
01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:33,720
Speaker 4: cam Taylor Britt, you know that type of play that

2274
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 4: set up the field goal for the Chiefs and that loss,

2275
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:38,120
Speaker 4: and it just kind of tells the story of the

2276
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:40,760
Speaker 4: whole season for them, which is that Burrow is out

2277
01:45:40,760 --> 01:45:42,960
Speaker 4: there slinging it. He's slinging it to Chase, he's slinging

2278
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:45,040
Speaker 4: it to Higgins. They're moving the ball, they're putting points

2279
01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:47,679
Speaker 4: up in bunches. It's coming quickly. But they just lacked

2280
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:50,479
Speaker 4: that extra little thing to get them over the hump

2281
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:53,320
Speaker 4: in so many of these close losses. And what we

2282
01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 4: were treated to was this weird, like hot potato of

2283
01:45:57,160 --> 01:45:59,479
Speaker 4: possession between these two teams and the fourth quarter, it's like,

2284
01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 4: you go the game. No, I don't want to. You

2285
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:02,840
Speaker 4: go win the game. No, you go win the game.

2286
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 4: And neither of them decided to win the game until JK.

2287
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:06,400
Speaker 4: Dobbins got in the end zone, right.

2288
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:09,599
Speaker 1: There were great defensive plays in that breakup you mentioned

2289
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 1: on Chase. There were a handful of plays that it

2290
01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:16,120
Speaker 1: seemed like they were gonna make the Bengals at the

2291
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:19,720
Speaker 1: end of that game. And it was Christian Fulton who

2292
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:22,960
Speaker 1: had a big play. It was Tarheeb still, the rookie

2293
01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:25,479
Speaker 1: fifth round pick who's made the play I think you're

2294
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:28,720
Speaker 1: talking about, and on one of them, Yeah, you give

2295
01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:31,600
Speaker 1: the ball back to Herbert with under two minutes to

2296
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:36,920
Speaker 1: go in great field goal position at the forty one

2297
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:39,720
Speaker 1: yard line after the McPherson miss, and they just go

2298
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:43,960
Speaker 1: three and out, like three straight incompletions, including a pretty

2299
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 1: bad miss that Herbert had in there to McConkey, and

2300
01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:50,160
Speaker 1: you're thinking, well, of course, of course the Bengals are

2301
01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:52,479
Speaker 1: gonna get it here, and they don't.

2302
01:46:52,520 --> 01:46:54,680
Speaker 2: And that's why I don't know what to say. Like

2303
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:56,719
Speaker 2: Nick Wesseling, I'm in this text.

2304
01:46:56,560 --> 01:47:00,120
Speaker 1: Thread with the two Westling brothers that I'm closest with,

2305
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:03,439
Speaker 1: Nick and Phil, and they're making fun of me because

2306
01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:05,640
Speaker 1: I keep pointing out that this season is just like

2307
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 1: a smidge overrated for Burrow. And I just said, well,

2308
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 1: based on this season, because this was right when they

2309
01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:15,760
Speaker 1: tied the game. I texted back, he'll be sensational, but

2310
01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:18,599
Speaker 1: they'll blow it in the end. And that is why

2311
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:21,040
Speaker 1: it's like a smidge underrated, because I keep seeing beggals,

2312
01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 1: just fans say he'd be the MVP if he was

2313
01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:25,560
Speaker 1: getting help, and I'm like, they've had the ball with

2314
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:28,080
Speaker 1: a chance to win on offense and Joe Burrow and

2315
01:47:28,160 --> 01:47:29,760
Speaker 1: their offense to go make the place to win it

2316
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 1: five times they've won no times.

2317
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 13: The question though, because.

2318
01:47:34,160 --> 01:47:36,280
Speaker 1: I know it's the rest of the team that's partly

2319
01:47:36,280 --> 01:47:38,599
Speaker 1: putting him in there. I'm just saying this team has

2320
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:42,600
Speaker 1: loserish vibes. Yeah, it's combined. Like even the way this

2321
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:46,240
Speaker 1: game started, the offense somewhat put the team in position

2322
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 1: by playing so bad. They just keep finding ways to lose.

2323
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:51,640
Speaker 1: Burrow might make my All Pro team in the end,

2324
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:53,720
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, but you can't say like he

2325
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:56,120
Speaker 1: would have an MVP season. He's been part of that

2326
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:57,920
Speaker 1: just because they haven't been able to close an offense.

2327
01:47:57,920 --> 01:47:58,679
Speaker 1: Sorry for Ramsey.

2328
01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:00,960
Speaker 13: Yeah no, the good outweighs the bad.

2329
01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:03,080
Speaker 4: And I think about some of those that dif't produced

2330
01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 4: points in the fourth quarter, like some of the even

2331
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:06,560
Speaker 4: the passworker bet just talk about he puts it on

2332
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 4: this guy, he put it on his guy a few times.

2333
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:10,880
Speaker 4: I think he missed yoshaas wants deep like. Other than that,

2334
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:12,639
Speaker 4: I can't really think about a ton of mistakes.

2335
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:15,599
Speaker 18: Somebody tweets yet the interception that was overturned by penalty,

2336
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:17,600
Speaker 18: that one, that's what was somebody tweets other than that

2337
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:19,800
Speaker 18: he was just about perfect exactly and that that's who

2338
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:22,800
Speaker 18: he is. It's just that, like the loser's mentality is

2339
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:24,840
Speaker 18: all around him, and I'm not, you know, trying to

2340
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:27,320
Speaker 18: completely defend him, but it feels like he's the only

2341
01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:30,160
Speaker 18: one that's like pushing them forward. It's Tim and Jamar's

2342
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 18: riding along with him, and t Higgins when he's healthy,

2343
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:34,519
Speaker 18: has been there, and it's just like so painful to

2344
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:37,120
Speaker 18: watch as a football person to like sit back and

2345
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:39,600
Speaker 18: see this guy's playing tremendously for the most part. He

2346
01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:41,800
Speaker 18: has to overcome so much and yet they fall short again.

2347
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:44,800
Speaker 18: So he'd be on my All Pro team for sure, absolutely,

2348
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:46,360
Speaker 18: like no doubt slam Dunck.

2349
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:48,599
Speaker 1: But they're well, that's the top, that's top two though,

2350
01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:51,000
Speaker 1: So at this point he wouldn't be because you know,

2351
01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:53,720
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would have Lamar and Josh Allen definitely, yeah,

2352
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 1: ahead of him. But he's been sensational. Don't get it twisted.

2353
01:48:57,240 --> 01:48:59,559
Speaker 1: I don't want to get too distracted on like picking

2354
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:02,000
Speaker 1: knits there. I do want to give some credit to

2355
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:06,120
Speaker 1: Herbert and the Chargers as a whole, because ultimately they

2356
01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 1: were charging but it didn't end as if Bratt Brandon

2357
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 1: Staley was the coach in the end. Somehow, maybe that

2358
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:15,320
Speaker 1: is the difference, and ultimately you do build a twenty

2359
01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:17,920
Speaker 1: one point lead because of the reasons that they are

2360
01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:21,120
Speaker 1: better than the Bengals on balance. This year, they protect

2361
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:25,559
Speaker 1: their quarterback well. The Bengals offensive line did not play

2362
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:28,280
Speaker 1: well at all. Joe Burrow made so many plays escaping pressure,

2363
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:31,200
Speaker 1: and so Herbert was dealing in part because he was

2364
01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:34,920
Speaker 1: protected well. And then at the very end, even though

2365
01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:38,680
Speaker 1: they weren't getting much done in the second half offensively,

2366
01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:43,439
Speaker 1: at the end, it was the combination of two dots

2367
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:46,599
Speaker 1: by Herbert on that final drive and then the setup

2368
01:49:46,640 --> 01:49:47,000
Speaker 1: to JK.

2369
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 2: Dobbins. Let's listen. I bet Matt mney Smith had a

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Speaker 2: fun call for this one.

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01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 1: I have not heard it yet. Let's listen to Dobbins

2372
01:49:52,680 --> 01:49:54,280
Speaker 1: take the lead with eighteen seconds left.

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01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:58,479
Speaker 15: Dobbins and Matt Locke hand off to Dobbins and there

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01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:01,720
Speaker 15: goes Dobbins, hot as horse to the twenty, to the fifteen,

2375
01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:04,200
Speaker 15: to the ton into the end zone.

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01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:16,640
Speaker 16: Touchdown, shutters twenty nine yards shake Kay Tobbins with eighteen

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01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:17,800
Speaker 16: seconds left.

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01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:21,280
Speaker 1: Oh, great call. There By Matt money Smith And yeah,

2379
01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:23,280
Speaker 1: that was a part of the game. You thought, maybe

2380
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:26,080
Speaker 1: go down, Gus Edwards, go down, But you can't blame

2381
01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:28,280
Speaker 1: them flipping into the end zone fifty six yards on

2382
01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 1: the ground for him. They were quiet running the ball

2383
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:32,760
Speaker 1: all day. McConkie ends up with one hundred and twenty three.

2384
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 1: He's really turning into that dude. But Dobbins and the

2385
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:39,519
Speaker 1: run game come through and what a night at SOFI

2386
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:41,240
Speaker 1: Stadium A late night.

2387
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:44,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm sure the traffic there is insane, but

2388
01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:48,800
Speaker 4: rightfully so. Two things, Lad mccackey typically cap to you,

2389
01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:51,640
Speaker 4: sir for overcoming a drop on a previous drive when

2390
01:50:51,640 --> 01:50:53,840
Speaker 4: you were wide open along the sideline to make some

2391
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:56,080
Speaker 4: huge catches on that final drive.

2392
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:57,040
Speaker 13: He was a big part of that.

2393
01:50:57,200 --> 01:50:59,280
Speaker 4: He's one of my favorite receivers in this rookie class

2394
01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:02,840
Speaker 4: to watch, has been since the combine and number two

2395
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:05,800
Speaker 4: shout to Matt money Smith because you can hear a

2396
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:07,720
Speaker 4: little bit of trepidation in his voice as he's called

2397
01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:10,719
Speaker 4: in those plays. He's been through the ringer time team's

2398
01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:13,400
Speaker 4: on a roll, team blows the lead, he can feel

2399
01:51:13,439 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 4: the walls caving in. Even on that last throw by

2400
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:18,840
Speaker 4: Bro it's very calm, very like it throws it deep

2401
01:51:19,280 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 4: and it's different. It's you know, touchdown, you know, then

2402
01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 4: he explodes for excitement like he went through it all tonight.

2403
01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:27,000
Speaker 4: Congratulations to him and the Chargers.

2404
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:29,719
Speaker 1: Yes, and you're right about the traffic. If you're watching

2405
01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:34,160
Speaker 1: on YouTube, you might notice I'm home now. That's because

2406
01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:36,640
Speaker 1: I got I got out of there as soon as

2407
01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:40,479
Speaker 1: I could, because not only is this Chargers game happening,

2408
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 1: and I would have got stuck for an hour and

2409
01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:44,799
Speaker 1: a half after that got out, but there's a Sabrina

2410
01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:48,599
Speaker 1: Carpenter concert right next door, and my god, it was insane.

2411
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 10: It was.

2412
01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:53,200
Speaker 1: It was traffic, you know, palooza, you know when when

2413
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:56,080
Speaker 1: you bring in Sabrina Carpenter and then you got the

2414
01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:58,639
Speaker 1: clippers over at into it one block away.

2415
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 2: That way, you got car on the other side.

2416
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:04,040
Speaker 1: I squeezed through there like Joe Burrow, you know, a

2417
01:52:04,120 --> 01:52:06,439
Speaker 1: fading that rush, stepping up in the third.

2418
01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 13: Down, stepping up, sliding for a big game.

2419
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, to be.

2420
01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 1: At home now and big win for the Chargers because yeah,

2421
01:52:15,080 --> 01:52:18,360
Speaker 1: they have the Ravens next week on Monday Night football.

2422
01:52:18,360 --> 01:52:22,080
Speaker 1: A lot of Los Angeles during uh these night games

2423
01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:24,599
Speaker 1: coming up in the final stretch of the season. They

2424
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:26,640
Speaker 1: also have at Kansas City in a couple weeks, so

2425
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:28,680
Speaker 1: that was a big one to pocket, just to make

2426
01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:31,320
Speaker 1: sure they feel like this is a different Chargers team,

2427
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:33,200
Speaker 1: different season, and yet it would have been a more

2428
01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:35,559
Speaker 1: fun season I think if the Bengals were a little

2429
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:36,519
Speaker 1: closer to in the mix.

2430
01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:39,200
Speaker 2: But I'm still not totally writing them off at four

2431
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:41,240
Speaker 2: and seven. I just can't quit this team.

2432
01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:43,320
Speaker 1: One of the best four and seven teams we have

2433
01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:47,000
Speaker 1: ever seen, one of the best week elevens we've ever seen.

2434
01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 2: Nick Schuck. Appreciate you, man.

2435
01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:51,479
Speaker 4: No appreciate you as well, And I'm pulling for you

2436
01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:53,320
Speaker 4: Bengals fans. I'm sorry that you've been through all this,

2437
01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:56,559
Speaker 4: but there are brighter days ahead. Hopefully we'll see.

2438
01:52:56,720 --> 01:53:00,559
Speaker 1: Okay, we will be back Monday Night football, Nick Shook.

2439
01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:03,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to cook up some fun segments or

2440
01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:06,360
Speaker 1: something a little extra if this Texans Cowboys game uh

2441
01:53:06,479 --> 01:53:11,320
Speaker 1: doesn't deliver for Nick Shook. Uh and Eric Roberts, Patrick Clayband,

2442
01:53:11,720 --> 01:53:13,000
Speaker 1: Chris giving us a lot of help.

2443
01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:14,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, when Uh, when JK.

2444
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:18,400
Speaker 1: Dobbins is show an NFL Daily guest, get it done

2445
01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:18,920
Speaker 1: in the end.

2446
01:53:19,080 --> 01:53:21,040
Speaker 2: You know football is back. See you Monday night.