WEBVTT - The Siberian Heart Attack

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<v Speaker 1>Something strange is going on. Another member of the Russian

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<v Speaker 1>elite has been found dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Reports suggests that he fell out of a window poisoned

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<v Speaker 2>with mushrooms.

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<v Speaker 1>Died of heart failure, the ed of carbon monoxide poisoning.

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<v Speaker 1>How comes you are they are? There?

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<v Speaker 2>Dozens of Russian oligachs, politically motivated millionaires have died in

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<v Speaker 2>the space of three years, most of them in suspicious circumstances.

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<v Speaker 2>Many have hidden links to the Kremlin. This is sad

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<v Speaker 2>Oligach Season two, an ongoing investigation into these recently dead

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<v Speaker 2>Russian power brokers. Sad Oligach is created by me jake

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<v Speaker 2>Hanrahan and my Ukrainian colleague Sergey Slipchenko. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>H eleven studio and Coolso Media production. December twenty seventh,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three. It's a freezing cold day and Tobolsk,

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<v Speaker 2>an ancient city in the east of Russia. The temperature

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<v Speaker 2>is as low as minus sixteen. Everything is frozen. The

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<v Speaker 2>rivers have a thick layer of ice on the surface

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<v Speaker 2>and a heavy blanket of snow covers the ground. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the Siberian region, a cold, harsh place that covers

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<v Speaker 2>over five million square miles of the Russian Federation. Tubosk

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<v Speaker 2>is considered by some to be the real capital of Siberia.

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<v Speaker 2>Founded in fifteen eighty seven, the city was at one

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<v Speaker 2>point an epicenter of early Russian colonization. Back then, the

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<v Speaker 2>detachment of Cossacks traveled through the rural mountains, attacking and

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<v Speaker 2>defeating the Muslim state of Seabit Canate. From thereon, all

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<v Speaker 2>helbroke loose in the modern Erado. Tobolsk is a peaceful,

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<v Speaker 2>if not isolated place for miles around. When the weather's bed,

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<v Speaker 2>there were green hills as far as the eye can see.

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<v Speaker 2>But today the frost is heavy, the ground is white

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<v Speaker 2>with snow, and the roads are thick with traffic stains slush.

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<v Speaker 2>So on this day that we zoom in on politician

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<v Speaker 2>Vladimir Igorov, forty six years old or of a weight, overpaid, corrupt.

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<v Speaker 2>He's stood by a window on the third floor of

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<v Speaker 2>his house on Kedrovoya Street.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a rich.

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<v Speaker 2>Area, big cars and bigger houses. Igorov is the second

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<v Speaker 2>wealthiest politician in the region. His ill gotten gains have

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<v Speaker 2>built him a comfortable lifestyle, well until they didn't. Somehow,

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<v Speaker 2>of Vladimir Igorov falls clean out of the window of

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<v Speaker 2>his house around thirty five feet to the concrete his way.

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<v Speaker 2>He's free falling at a speed of about fourteen meters

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<v Speaker 2>per second. Takes him only one and a half to

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<v Speaker 2>hit the concrete. With a force like that, an energy

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<v Speaker 2>of roughly nine thousand duels. Your body breaks as it lands,

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<v Speaker 2>huge damage to your skeleton, shattered bones, limbs broken from

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<v Speaker 2>their joints, your organs blend up inside of you, internal bleeding, hemorrhaging.

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<v Speaker 2>Its game over. According to an eyewitness of Vladimir, Igorov

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<v Speaker 2>hit the ground hard in the courtyard of his house,

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<v Speaker 2>But then there were reports that said he died of

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<v Speaker 2>heart issues. It sounds like a bit of an understatement

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<v Speaker 2>for a man that fell out of his window. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if your heart bursts upon impact against hard cement from

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<v Speaker 2>a higher fall, technically that dying of heart issues. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think that's how they meant it. The press was

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<v Speaker 2>essentially saying he simply had a heart attack and keeled

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<v Speaker 2>over and died. To add to the confusion, Russian newspaper

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<v Speaker 2>Commissant was first to report on Igorov's demise. They said

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<v Speaker 2>there was a quote no external signs of criminal death.

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<v Speaker 2>This was related to them for beatim by the Investigative

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<v Speaker 2>Committee for the twin Men Region, part of a government

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<v Speaker 2>agency that explores serious crimes. Not only is that a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty suspect sentence to come out with whilst the body

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<v Speaker 2>is still warm, it's also a very hasty conclusion. Both

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<v Speaker 2>Commercant themselves and state media tast News reported that investigators

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<v Speaker 2>were still establishing the cause of Igorov's death when this

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<v Speaker 2>quote was provided to Bolsk City Council then published an

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<v Speaker 2>obituary saying Igorov diet due to quote a result of

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<v Speaker 2>an accident. So let's try to get this straight. Vladim

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<v Speaker 2>Egorov fell out of a window and died of high issues.

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<v Speaker 2>Was the Russian authority said it was an accident just

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<v Speaker 2>after they told the media that they're still investigating. Sounds

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<v Speaker 2>to me like the right hand they didn't know what

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<v Speaker 2>the left hand was doing. So why the confusion and

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<v Speaker 2>why does it seem so fishy from the get go? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>in the words of the seventeenth century Sufi poet Rumy,

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<v Speaker 2>greed makes a man easy pray for death. Vladim Egorov

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<v Speaker 2>was a very greedy man on a scale of one

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<v Speaker 2>to ten. How corrupt would you say this ego of

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<v Speaker 2>fellow was one being like not corrupt at all and

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<v Speaker 2>ten being Joseph Muscat level corruption like that fellow from Malta, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>how corrupt was this guy?

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<v Speaker 3>From what I can see like quite Crplet's say definitely

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<v Speaker 3>in the upper side, and we could say maybe like eight,

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<v Speaker 3>but I feel like if we knew everything, it would

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<v Speaker 3>definitely be a ten.

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<v Speaker 2>That's journalist Sergei Slipchenko, my partner on this project. You

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<v Speaker 2>remember him from the first season together. We've once again

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<v Speaker 2>been working away researching these strange deaths of the Russian elite,

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<v Speaker 2>not because we particularly give a shit about them, many

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<v Speaker 2>have supported or profited from Putin's war on Ukraine, but

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<v Speaker 2>because to investigate these strange deaths is to better understand

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<v Speaker 2>the turmoil inside the Kremlin. That's my theory, at least

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<v Speaker 2>back to Sergi.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when I was initially looking into him, it

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, he passed away, and they're like, if

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<v Speaker 3>you remember in twenty sixteen he was charged for essentially

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<v Speaker 3>not charging businessmen like for the lens, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>they're like renting like space. I don't know exactly what

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<v Speaker 3>it was, whether it was like farmland, or actual like

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<v Speaker 3>industrial space or something like that. But essentially he was

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<v Speaker 3>and charging people for the rent, like he wasn't collecting it.

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<v Speaker 3>He was working for the city of Taboysk and he's

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<v Speaker 3>working as the head of the committee for I believe

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<v Speaker 3>it translates to like land rights and forestry, so essentially

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<v Speaker 3>kind of overlooking the city's lands forests, and part of

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<v Speaker 3>his job was, you know, collecting rent. People are supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to pay him for using the land. And what he

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<v Speaker 3>was found guilty of was negligence of essentially not collecting

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<v Speaker 3>rent from several businessmen, allegedly his friends, right, so they

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<v Speaker 3>can run their business.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't have to pay him.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the thing is is like officially he didn't

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<v Speaker 3>collect it at all, and that's the city lost it.

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<v Speaker 3>If I had to guess, I would think he collected it.

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<v Speaker 3>He just didn't put it into the city's budget kind

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<v Speaker 3>of thing, right, which was supposed to. In these articles,

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<v Speaker 3>the ones that came out around his death, they just

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned like his sentencing, which was one point six million rubles,

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<v Speaker 3>which I looked up in twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 4>That was about twenty thousand dollars like.

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<v Speaker 3>American twenty thousand years d but actually found in our

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<v Speaker 3>article from the time when this is kind of happening,

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<v Speaker 3>like in twenty fourteen, is when he was accused of

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<v Speaker 3>this by deputies of Tubolsk City DUMO, so essentially like

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<v Speaker 3>local politicians. They sent a letter to the regional prosecutor

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<v Speaker 3>and they actually claimed he stole forty four million rubles.

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<v Speaker 3>They said that, like he caused forty four million in

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<v Speaker 3>damages to the city budget, which I again kind of

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<v Speaker 3>converted at the time that was one million and a

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<v Speaker 3>quarter when in a quarter million USD. So what they

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<v Speaker 3>kind of alleged was a lot higher than when he

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<v Speaker 3>was charged for, which you know could be depending on

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<v Speaker 3>the city, Like the city decided, okay, we can only

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<v Speaker 3>prove that one point six million rubles was the crime,

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<v Speaker 3>whereas in reality was much higher.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's what those guys alleged.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that article that was reading kind of paints a

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<v Speaker 3>picture of what kind of personal Goo was because in

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<v Speaker 3>addition to the letter like claiming that he did this,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess you can say Besslumuan right fraud. They were

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<v Speaker 3>also those two deputies that reported him. They actually reached

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<v Speaker 3>out to the regional like a head of I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's an Investigative Committee essentially a regional like I guess

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<v Speaker 3>you could say FBI kind of comparative that they oversee

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<v Speaker 3>the region's security. They're mostly involved in like economic crimes

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<v Speaker 3>and criminal crimes prosecution on a federal level, they're in charge.

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<v Speaker 3>And they reached out to them saying that they were

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<v Speaker 3>concerned about threats from you Gotov.

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<v Speaker 4>According to them, he would talk kind of openly like

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<v Speaker 4>they should be killed and buried. That's a quote that

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<v Speaker 4>they give to a newspaper.

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<v Speaker 2>So the reports from this don't have much information. In Russia,

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<v Speaker 2>the press isn't free, and reporting on government corruption is

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<v Speaker 2>a bad idea for a journalist's career. On the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five Press Freedom Index, Russia was ranked one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and seventy one out of one hundred and eighty, the

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<v Speaker 2>latter being the worst. All independent Russia news channels are banned.

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<v Speaker 2>If you try to criticize the state, you might end

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<v Speaker 2>up in serious trouble. Okay, now, with time for a

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<v Speaker 2>quick outbreak. All right, enough for that. Now back to

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<v Speaker 2>the shore. Still, we've deduced that Vladimir Igorov was up

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<v Speaker 2>to one of two things in regards to what he

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<v Speaker 2>was care and charged for one, he was allowing his

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<v Speaker 2>friends and associates to use state owned land for free,

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<v Speaker 2>abusing his position to likely court favor with other wealthy individuals.

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<v Speaker 2>Or two, he was saving state owned land for his

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<v Speaker 2>friends and associates, making sure they got.

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<v Speaker 1>The plots they wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead of putting the rent they then paid for these

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<v Speaker 2>areas back into the local council kitty as he was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to, he simply kept all the rent for himself

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<v Speaker 2>put it in his pocket. Wam double corruption? Personally, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>with Surgery on this. I think option two is most

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<v Speaker 2>likely both pretty much.

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<v Speaker 1>As bad as each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Though Igorov was happy to steal from his community and

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<v Speaker 2>threaten the people who weren't happy about it. This wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>just the discruntal public though. The people he threatened held

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<v Speaker 2>some way in the Toposka area.

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<v Speaker 3>So they're the deputies right there. Essentially, It's like if

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<v Speaker 3>a politician came to the police and was like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>this other you know, bureaucrat or whatever is like embezzling

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<v Speaker 3>funds and then he was like openly talking about, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, those guys should be killed. That that was

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<v Speaker 3>their concern. They reached out to the guy they're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>can you look into this, And interestingly, at the bottom

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<v Speaker 3>of the article, it's like, at least according to these politicians,

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<v Speaker 3>the head never heard about their complaint and they're not

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<v Speaker 3>looking into it. So allegedly nothing was done about those

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<v Speaker 3>threats or at least their concerns about those threats.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're saying they're saying they didn't even hear about it.

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<v Speaker 3>They said that, like, you know, they reported it, and

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<v Speaker 3>they said they didn't hear anything about it, that like

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<v Speaker 3>their that their concerns weren't hurt, and that they couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>file an official complaint kind of thing. That's according to them,

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean, it's kind of like he said, she said,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, they said that they weren't even heard that

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<v Speaker 3>there was no official you know, you can like file

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<v Speaker 3>like an official complain of the police basically, and nobody

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<v Speaker 3>took them in. Two years later, he again, he did

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<v Speaker 3>get prosecuted. They found kind of like negligence. I guess

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<v Speaker 3>that he just happened not to pay attention to collecting

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<v Speaker 3>those you know, millions, but he didn't even get punished

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<v Speaker 3>for it.

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<v Speaker 2>So, as you can see, Vladimir Igorov should have been

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<v Speaker 2>prosecuted his crimes were not committed past the statute of limitations.

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<v Speaker 2>It was only two years before he was brought to court,

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<v Speaker 2>so we should have got.

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<v Speaker 1>What was coming to right. We looked it up.

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<v Speaker 2>He was supposed to be sentenced to two years correcttional labor.

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<v Speaker 2>This means he would have been allowed to continue working

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<v Speaker 2>in his position in the local government, but would have

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<v Speaker 2>been fined five to twenty percent of his wages. This

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<v Speaker 2>money was to be renumerated into the community k offfers

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<v Speaker 2>until Igorov had paid back all the money he'd stolen.

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<v Speaker 2>For some reason, though this didn't happen. They may Igorov

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<v Speaker 2>completely got away with it.

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<v Speaker 4>Even though it was just two years later.

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<v Speaker 3>They said it was kind of too late to charge

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<v Speaker 3>him with it, and he never faced any punishment. There

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<v Speaker 3>was actually a similar incident in twenty eleven, so this

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<v Speaker 3>would be three years prior to that. Same thing happened

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<v Speaker 3>where he was kind of losing money for the city budget,

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<v Speaker 3>and allegedly nothing happened. Same two politicians complained to Well

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<v Speaker 3>apparently directly to putin like directly to him.

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<v Speaker 4>He got some kind of punishment, but nothing changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Essentially, right, this was an open letter to Poot and

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like they kind of called him up, but

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<v Speaker 2>there was this public open letter as in, we've tried everything,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy is stealing for some reason. He's not really

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<v Speaker 2>being prosecuted. DEPO in please help was basically what was happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like that's the idea, right that like nobody's above him.

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<v Speaker 3>So like if you're kind of I guess, like you

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<v Speaker 3>could say last resort and you know this has happened

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty eleven. Then again three years later they send

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<v Speaker 3>another letter to the they're like municipal our prosecutor, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, clearly something came out of it in twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 3>but again they were claiming forty four million rubles in damage. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>all they found was one point six million. That's like

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<v Speaker 3>less than one tenth of what they claimed. And he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't even get punishment for It's like, yeah, you're guilty,

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<v Speaker 3>but oh well, we can't do anything about it. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 3>that's all that came out of it, right, not even

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<v Speaker 3>a slap on the wrist. It was just like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you did that, but we can't do anything. And he

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<v Speaker 3>later on he becomes he went on to be like

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<v Speaker 3>part of the Federal Party and stuff. He became a

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<v Speaker 3>deputy of United Russia.

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<v Speaker 2>It's complicated, but United Russia is Putin's party. Tawilauners himself

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<v Speaker 2>through politics and the media to be Russia's perpetual leader,

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<v Speaker 2>or you could say dictator. Putin uses the party to

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<v Speaker 2>maintain power by acting as it's the facto leader. He

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<v Speaker 2>actually ran as an independent in the last election, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's all smoke and mirrors. It simply allowed him to

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<v Speaker 2>keep power no matter what, whilst trying to present the

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<v Speaker 2>voting system as democratic and open, it's anything but. As

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<v Speaker 2>the man both behind the scenes and at the forefront,

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<v Speaker 2>Putin uses United Russia to secure legislative and political back

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<v Speaker 2>in for whatever he wants to happen. Through this broadly

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<v Speaker 2>popular political party, he can maintain his grip on the

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<v Speaker 2>government and push through his many murderous policies.

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<v Speaker 1>Throughout the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone knows that United Russia is Putin's party. It just

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<v Speaker 2>has to go around the houses a little bit to

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<v Speaker 2>pretend like he's not actually running things with an iron fist.

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<v Speaker 2>So Igorov himself was a staunch supporter of Putins United Russia,

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<v Speaker 2>as Sergei said, he joined up and became a member.

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<v Speaker 2>It will probably be no surprise to learn then that

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<v Speaker 2>Igorov was a big fan of the twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>Russian invasion of Ukraine. Award that has taken the lives

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<v Speaker 2>of over thirteen thousand civilians, almost eight hundred of them

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<v Speaker 2>being children. More than forty six thousand Ukrainian military have

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<v Speaker 2>been killed in that time and half a million wounded.

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<v Speaker 2>We found Vladimir Igorov's VK profile still up almost two

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<v Speaker 2>years after his death. VK is essentially just Russian Facebook.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's an idea of the sort of thing Igorov would

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<v Speaker 2>post up there. In the context of a twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>three Russian Victory Day post, he writes, quote, Dear Tobolsk residents,

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<v Speaker 2>our dear veterans, The memory of World War II unites

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<v Speaker 2>us today and makes us invincible in the face of

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<v Speaker 2>many new challenges one by older generations. Victory still inspires

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<v Speaker 2>us to new achievements, strengthens our spirit, helps us overcome

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<v Speaker 2>difficulties and move forward. Our fathers, grandfathers and great grandfathers

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<v Speaker 2>defended our motherland. Now is our turn to stand as

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<v Speaker 2>a war for our country, to protect our honest historic memory.

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<v Speaker 2>Even today, every Russian is bitter to hear and see

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<v Speaker 2>attempts to rewrite history to take away the conquered peace

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<v Speaker 2>and freedom for humanity from our people.

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<v Speaker 1>End quote.

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<v Speaker 2>Igorov also posted about his family who were training in

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<v Speaker 2>the Russian military in preparation for a deployment to Ukraine

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<v Speaker 2>to help with the invasion. In twenty twenty two, Igorov

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<v Speaker 2>posted up several pictures with said family with this caption quote, Today,

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<v Speaker 2>a significant event happened in our family. Having served his

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<v Speaker 2>military service in the ranks of the Russian Armed Forces,

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<v Speaker 2>our son, nephew, grandson, and brother, Yuri Igorov was demobilized

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<v Speaker 2>by the Federation. My older brother and I decided to

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<v Speaker 2>meet him at the checkpoint of the military unit. We

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<v Speaker 2>thank his commanders and officers for creating decent and comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>conditions for his service.

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<v Speaker 1>End quote.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, whilst Igorov loved the war, as in he was

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<v Speaker 2>proud that his country invaded Ukraine, he didn't quite want

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<v Speaker 2>his family to actually serve in not properly anyway. As

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<v Speaker 2>is with any rich, corrupt politician, whether it be Russia,

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<v Speaker 2>England or America, it's never their kids who actually end

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<v Speaker 2>up on the front lines.

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<v Speaker 1>Not really.

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<v Speaker 2>Igorov posed as a man of the people but actually

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<v Speaker 2>he was a thieving glutton.

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<v Speaker 5>Looking back on Vladimir segav life, we can already see

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<v Speaker 5>a picture of building up that which consists of the

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<v Speaker 5>local archetypal, corrupted magne that leaves a good life.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Victor Mihail.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a researcher on my team who's been working with

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<v Speaker 2>us on this season of sad Oligach. Victor's been looking

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<v Speaker 2>into Igorov's laviage lifestyle and how it allowed him to

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<v Speaker 2>circumvent the laws that normal people have to stick to.

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<v Speaker 2>Just as a quick reminder here, this is not just

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<v Speaker 2>a Russian thing. It's a politician thing. Okay, now it's

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<v Speaker 2>time for a quick outbreak or enough of that, now

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<v Speaker 2>back to the shore. So what kind of flash is stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>Was ego of up too?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, meeting with influential people, partying, eating only the

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<v Speaker 5>good stuff, circumventing even pandemic restrictions to make insane megalomania celebrations,

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<v Speaker 5>all while constantly hitting news headlines and wile successfully by

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<v Speaker 5>passing the law and his conviction for an authoriosed selling

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<v Speaker 5>of land. This kind of flest also has benefits for

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<v Speaker 5>the people who are in your circle or around you

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<v Speaker 5>or in your family, and one such an example can

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<v Speaker 5>be illustrated by an event which happened on twenty eight

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<v Speaker 5>November twenty twenty two. One of his nephews, Yuryegorov, was

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<v Speaker 5>released as demobilized from his mandatory service in the Russian

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<v Speaker 5>Army on twenty eight November, being when Russian invasion of

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<v Speaker 5>Ukraine was still in full swing. It was the first

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<v Speaker 5>year one can guess that the son of a local

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<v Speaker 5>baron will have much trouble in such an environment and

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<v Speaker 5>he will have guests rights, since that's exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>He hasn't been deployed.

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<v Speaker 5>Or signing a contract to go in an active combat zone.

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<v Speaker 5>But asper the words of Vladimirgorov himself on his v

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<v Speaker 5>contact page, he had more than decent and even more

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<v Speaker 5>comfortable conditions in the army.

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<v Speaker 2>So Igorov's nephew, who he wrote the glowing VK post

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<v Speaker 2>about how proud he is how he served the country,

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<v Speaker 2>actually did for court. He basically went in for some

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<v Speaker 2>Kushti training just to say he took part. Obviously it

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<v Speaker 2>was mandatory military service, but not the same kind of

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<v Speaker 2>military service that your average person has. This was again

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<v Speaker 2>facilitated by Igorov's connections that it built over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>Compiling his Empire of Dirt, we found out that Igorov

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<v Speaker 2>was also part of so called entrepreneur group named Opera Rossi.

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<v Speaker 2>This group is tied to the invasion of Ukraine, providing

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<v Speaker 2>economic and rehabilitation courses to Russian military. Perhaps these connections

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<v Speaker 2>are how he got his family through what is essentially

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<v Speaker 2>live action role playing the war.

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<v Speaker 5>Looking at the profiles that commented on the post when

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<v Speaker 5>Vladimirgrov celebrated at the mobilization of his nephew, I also

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<v Speaker 5>found the people who give such comments. These comments consisting

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<v Speaker 5>of also parents who had their sons serving the same way,

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<v Speaker 5>and by checking the profiles you can see that they

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<v Speaker 5>are by no means of ordinary people. They are either lawyers, economists,

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<v Speaker 5>even civilian playing pilots who comment that their sons also

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<v Speaker 5>serve and they are already home while putting a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of laughing emogies. And some people just say that they

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<v Speaker 5>serve nearby and that there were no problems and so on,

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<v Speaker 5>that it was very comfortable to me. At least, it

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<v Speaker 5>seems like a nest of people who have it very

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<v Speaker 5>good in life. They even you know, use their influence

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<v Speaker 5>to just send their stance to a mandatory military service

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<v Speaker 5>just more like a symbolic approach, because they will not

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<v Speaker 5>be treated the same way as a regular conscript, So

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<v Speaker 5>this service is really symbolic.

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<v Speaker 2>All this should give you an idea of what kind

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<v Speaker 2>of man Vladimir Igorov was. This was a politician who

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<v Speaker 2>stole from his own people, got fat off the theft,

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<v Speaker 2>and then acted like a member of the mafia. Remember,

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<v Speaker 2>he was telling anyone who'd listen that he wants the

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<v Speaker 2>people who discovered his corruption to be murdered and buried

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<v Speaker 2>in a shallow grave along with other rich folks in

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<v Speaker 2>the region. His family was sent to what is basically

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<v Speaker 2>a simulation of mandatory military service. You can start to

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<v Speaker 2>see how many people might have been sick of him.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, As I mentioned.

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<v Speaker 2>At the start, the Russian newspaper Commissant was the very

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<v Speaker 2>first outlet to mention Egov's death. They reported very quickly

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<v Speaker 2>that there were quote no external signs of criminal death,

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<v Speaker 2>criminal death being an awkward way of saying murder. After

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<v Speaker 2>the initial talk of Igorov's fast relocation from window to pavement,

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<v Speaker 2>Commissant was quick to put the news out there that

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<v Speaker 2>he'd had a heart attack. You have to wonder, though,

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<v Speaker 2>did they know the cause of death before the official

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<v Speaker 2>word from the coroner. Let's look a little bit closer

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<v Speaker 2>at Commissant. So we dug around a bit, and basically

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<v Speaker 2>this newspaper is a pro Kremlin wreck, propaganda for Putin

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<v Speaker 2>and his regime. It's owned by a man named Alisha Usmanov.

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<v Speaker 2>According to the US government, not exactly trustworthy, but according

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<v Speaker 2>to them, Usmanov is quote one of Russia's most politically

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<v Speaker 2>influential oligachs with close ties to the Kremlin. Even believe

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<v Speaker 2>that he had a hand in a so called Russian

0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:09.359
<v Speaker 2>interference campaign in the twenty sixteen US presidential election. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I personally rarely consider any politician to be a reliable source,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is certainly true that Usmanov has his fingers

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<v Speaker 2>in many different pies. According to the highly trustworthy OCCRP,

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<v Speaker 2>the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project, Usmanov has at

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<v Speaker 2>a minimum three billion dollars in assets. His overall wealth

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<v Speaker 2>is estimated to be even more than that, at sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>They said, quote.

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<v Speaker 2>The Uzbek born multimillionaire is known to be close to

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<v Speaker 2>both Russian president Vladimir Putin, with whom he is alleged

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<v Speaker 2>to have financial ties, and former President Dmitri Medvedev, who

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<v Speaker 2>has reportedly benefit from the personal use of Usmanov's luxurious residences.

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<v Speaker 2>How Sweet, through USM Group, a holding structor Usmanov uses

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<v Speaker 2>for his business empire. His interests span telecommunications, media and mining.

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<v Speaker 2>A representative of Usmanov told the OCCRP that he has

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<v Speaker 2>never benefited from the Russian government nor the privatization of

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<v Speaker 2>state assets, and that his capital was obtained solely through

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<v Speaker 2>transparent investment and asset management. They added that the ownership

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<v Speaker 2>of most real estate and property long ago transferred to

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<v Speaker 2>his family and he can only use them on a

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<v Speaker 2>rental basis.

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<v Speaker 1>End quote.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to say that last paragraph is extremely funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Who in their right mind believes that a man who

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<v Speaker 2>made sixteen billion dollars has to now rent out his

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<v Speaker 2>own properties from his family?

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<v Speaker 1>Get real?

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<v Speaker 2>The only real reason to do that would be some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of money laundering or tax dodging, hardly something he'd

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned to the OCCRP. In my opinion, that is just nonsense.

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<v Speaker 2>But still, how did Comma sank get the info about

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<v Speaker 2>the suspected heart attack. The Investigative Committee for the Tuman Region,

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<v Speaker 2>part of a government agency that explores serious crimes, apparently.

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<v Speaker 1>Gave it to them.

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<v Speaker 2>They also said, though that they will be carrying on

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<v Speaker 2>an investigation into the death of Vladimir Igorov, but that

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<v Speaker 2>never happened. He just vanished. They stopped investigating. There's been

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<v Speaker 2>no more news, so I had a look to see

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<v Speaker 2>if there was anything else. The Investigative Committee for the

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<v Speaker 2>Toyman Region didn't investigate.

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<v Speaker 1>There was.

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<v Speaker 2>Turns out they not only didn't but outright refused to investigate.

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<v Speaker 1>A torture case.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty twenty two, a Russian anti fascist activist named

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<v Speaker 2>Yury Nesnimov was allegedly tortured in police custody. He said

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<v Speaker 2>had been beaten during an interrogation on September one and

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<v Speaker 2>tortured in the early hours of September two. He said

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<v Speaker 2>they threatened to shoot and rape him. He says he

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<v Speaker 2>was then suffocated with a plastic bag, tortured with electricity,

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<v Speaker 2>and water boarded. Novaya Gazetta Europe reported the following quote.

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<v Speaker 2>The investigators also interviewed two employees of Russia's Center for

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<v Speaker 2>Combating Extremism and detective Rimayov. All of them said no

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<v Speaker 2>torture had been used on Nesdamov and his testimony had

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<v Speaker 2>been given without coercion end quote, and so the case

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<v Speaker 2>was closed without an investigation. Basically, whatever the committee is

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<v Speaker 2>told by the state is what they say happened. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wondering did the government simply tell the investigative committee

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<v Speaker 2>for the Toyman Region the Vladimir Igorov died of a

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<v Speaker 2>heart attack and that was it. Oh, Considering that the

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<v Speaker 2>investigation then vanished without more official conclusion, it seems quite

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<v Speaker 2>possible to me. The info was passed to the Kremlin

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<v Speaker 2>friendly commissant, it was quickly reported as a high issue,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is that. One last thing. In the wake

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<v Speaker 2>of Igorov's death, there were many grieving messages on his

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<v Speaker 2>aforementioned VIK page. That's normal, Norme is completely bad. The

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<v Speaker 2>comments included quote my condolences to the family and the friends,

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<v Speaker 2>and at forty six years old, it's too early, creepy,

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<v Speaker 2>and my condolences to all the family. But two other

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<v Speaker 2>comments did catch my eye. Both are from now deleted users.

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<v Speaker 2>The first one says quote he was a very bad person.

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<v Speaker 2>The second one, the comment is completely deleted from the page.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know what it said. It just says this

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<v Speaker 2>comment has been deleted by the user. The repliers are

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<v Speaker 2>still there though. Here's what they said. By your tongue,

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<v Speaker 2>this is how gossip is born. God is your judge,

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<v Speaker 2>and you are talking nonsense. You're drawing stupid conclusions. Calm

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<v Speaker 2>down already and let your tongue rest. And have you

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<v Speaker 2>been informed of anything personally? All in all, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's safe to say this is another extremely suspicious death

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<v Speaker 2>of a wealthy Russian politician connected to the Kremlin. You've

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