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Speaker 1: Something strange is going on. Another member of the Russian

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Speaker 1: elite has been found dead.

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Speaker 2: Reports suggests that he fell out of a window poisoned

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Speaker 1: Died of heart failure, the ed of carbon monoxide poisoning.

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Speaker 1: How comes you are they are? There?

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Speaker 2: Dozens of Russian oligachs, politically motivated millionaires have died in

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Speaker 2: the space of three years, most of them in suspicious circumstances.

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Speaker 2: Many have hidden links to the Kremlin. This is sad

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Speaker 2: Oligach Season two, an ongoing investigation into these recently dead

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Speaker 2: Russian power brokers. Sad Oligach is created by me jake

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Speaker 2: Hanrahan and my Ukrainian colleague Sergey Slipchenko. This is a

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Speaker 2: H eleven studio and Coolso Media production. December twenty seventh,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. It's a freezing cold day and Tobolsk,

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Speaker 2: an ancient city in the east of Russia. The temperature

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Speaker 2: and a heavy blanket of snow covers the ground. This

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Speaker 2: is the Siberian region, a cold, harsh place that covers

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Speaker 2: over five million square miles of the Russian Federation. Tubosk

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Speaker 2: is considered by some to be the real capital of Siberia.

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Speaker 2: Founded in fifteen eighty seven, the city was at one

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Speaker 2: point an epicenter of early Russian colonization. Back then, the

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Speaker 2: detachment of Cossacks traveled through the rural mountains, attacking and

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Speaker 2: defeating the Muslim state of Seabit Canate. From thereon, all

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Speaker 2: helbroke loose in the modern Erado. Tobolsk is a peaceful,

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Speaker 2: if not isolated place for miles around. When the weather's bed,

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Speaker 2: there were green hills as far as the eye can see.

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Speaker 2: But today the frost is heavy, the ground is white

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Speaker 2: with snow, and the roads are thick with traffic stains slush.

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Speaker 2: So on this day that we zoom in on politician

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Speaker 2: Vladimir Igorov, forty six years old or of a weight, overpaid, corrupt.

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Speaker 2: He's stood by a window on the third floor of

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Speaker 2: his house on Kedrovoya Street.

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Speaker 1: It's a rich.

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Speaker 2: Area, big cars and bigger houses. Igorov is the second

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Speaker 2: wealthiest politician in the region. His ill gotten gains have

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Speaker 2: built him a comfortable lifestyle, well until they didn't. Somehow,

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Speaker 2: of Vladimir Igorov falls clean out of the window of

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Speaker 2: his house around thirty five feet to the concrete his way.

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Speaker 2: He's free falling at a speed of about fourteen meters

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Speaker 2: per second. Takes him only one and a half to

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Speaker 2: hit the concrete. With a force like that, an energy

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Speaker 2: of roughly nine thousand duels. Your body breaks as it lands,

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Speaker 2: huge damage to your skeleton, shattered bones, limbs broken from

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Speaker 2: their joints, your organs blend up inside of you, internal bleeding, hemorrhaging.

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Speaker 2: Its game over. According to an eyewitness of Vladimir, Igorov

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Speaker 2: hit the ground hard in the courtyard of his house,

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Speaker 2: But then there were reports that said he died of

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Speaker 2: heart issues. It sounds like a bit of an understatement

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Speaker 2: for a man that fell out of his window. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if your heart bursts upon impact against hard cement from

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Speaker 2: a higher fall, technically that dying of heart issues. I

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Speaker 2: don't think that's how they meant it. The press was

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Speaker 2: essentially saying he simply had a heart attack and keeled

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Speaker 2: Commissant was first to report on Igorov's demise. They said

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Speaker 2: This was related to them for beatim by the Investigative

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Speaker 2: Committee for the twin Men Region, part of a government

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Speaker 2: agency that explores serious crimes. Not only is that a

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Speaker 2: Commercant themselves and state media tast News reported that investigators

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Speaker 2: were still establishing the cause of Igorov's death when this

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Speaker 2: obituary saying Igorov diet due to quote a result of

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Speaker 2: an accident. So let's try to get this straight. Vladim

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Speaker 2: Egorov fell out of a window and died of high issues.

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Speaker 2: Was the Russian authority said it was an accident just

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Speaker 2: after they told the media that they're still investigating. Sounds

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Speaker 2: to me like the right hand they didn't know what

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Speaker 2: why does it seem so fishy from the get go? Well,

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Speaker 2: in the words of the seventeenth century Sufi poet Rumy,

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Speaker 2: greed makes a man easy pray for death. Vladim Egorov

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Speaker 3: From what I can see like quite Crplet's say definitely

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Speaker 2: That's journalist Sergei Slipchenko, my partner on this project. You

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Speaker 2: remember him from the first season together. We've once again

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Speaker 2: been working away researching these strange deaths of the Russian elite,

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Speaker 2: not because we particularly give a shit about them, many

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Speaker 2: the turmoil inside the Kremlin. That's my theory, at least

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Speaker 3: You know, when I was initially looking into him, it

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Speaker 3: you remember in twenty sixteen he was charged for essentially

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Speaker 3: He was working for the city of Taboysk and he's

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Speaker 3: his job was, you know, collecting rent. People are supposed

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Speaker 4: They don't have to pay him.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the thing is is like officially he didn't

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Speaker 3: He just didn't put it into the city's budget kind

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Speaker 3: mentioned like his sentencing, which was one point six million rubles,

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Speaker 3: whereas in reality was much higher.

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Speaker 4: And that's what those guys alleged.

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Speaker 3: Like that article that was reading kind of paints a

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Speaker 3: I guess you can say Besslumuan right fraud. They were

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Speaker 3: also those two deputies that reported him. They actually reached

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Speaker 3: the region's security. They're mostly involved in like economic crimes

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Speaker 3: And they reached out to them saying that they were

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Speaker 4: According to them, he would talk kind of openly like

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Speaker 4: they should be killed and buried. That's a quote that

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Speaker 2: So the reports from this don't have much information. In Russia,

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Speaker 2: the press isn't free, and reporting on government corruption is

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Speaker 2: a bad idea for a journalist's career. On the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five Press Freedom Index, Russia was ranked one hundred

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Speaker 2: latter being the worst. All independent Russia news channels are banned.

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Speaker 2: If you try to criticize the state, you might end

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Speaker 2: quick outbreak. All right, enough for that. Now back to

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Speaker 2: the shore. Still, we've deduced that Vladimir Igorov was up

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Speaker 2: to one of two things in regards to what he

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Speaker 2: was care and charged for one, he was allowing his

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Speaker 2: abusing his position to likely court favor with other wealthy individuals.

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Speaker 2: Or two, he was saving state owned land for his

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Speaker 2: friends and associates, making sure they got.

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Speaker 1: The plots they wanted.

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Speaker 2: Instead of putting the rent they then paid for these

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Speaker 2: supposed to, he simply kept all the rent for himself

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Speaker 2: put it in his pocket. Wam double corruption? Personally, I'm

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Speaker 2: likely both pretty much.

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Speaker 1: As bad as each other.

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Speaker 2: Though Igorov was happy to steal from his community and

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Speaker 2: threaten the people who weren't happy about it. This wasn't

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Speaker 3: So they're the deputies right there. Essentially, It's like if

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Speaker 3: know what, those guys should be killed. That that was

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Speaker 3: can you look into this, And interestingly, at the bottom

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Speaker 2: But they're saying they're saying they didn't even hear about it.

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Speaker 3: They said that, like, you know, they reported it, and

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Speaker 3: they said they didn't hear anything about it, that like

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Speaker 3: So I mean, it's kind of like he said, she said,

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Speaker 3: get prosecuted. They found kind of like negligence. I guess

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Speaker 3: that he just happened not to pay attention to collecting

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Speaker 2: So, as you can see, Vladimir Igorov should have been

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Speaker 2: prosecuted his crimes were not committed past the statute of limitations.

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Speaker 2: It was only two years before he was brought to court,

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Speaker 2: so we should have got.

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Speaker 1: What was coming to right. We looked it up.

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Speaker 2: He was supposed to be sentenced to two years correcttional labor.

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Speaker 2: This means he would have been allowed to continue working

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Speaker 2: been fined five to twenty percent of his wages. This

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Speaker 2: until Igorov had paid back all the money he'd stolen.

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Speaker 2: Here's an idea of the sort of thing Igorov would

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Speaker 2: Even today, every Russian is bitter to hear and see

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Speaker 2: Igorov also posted about his family who were training in

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Speaker 2: Now, whilst Igorov loved the war, as in he was

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Speaker 1: Not really.

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Speaker 5: Looking back on Vladimir segav life, we can already see

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Speaker 1: That's Victor Mihail.

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Speaker 2: He's a researcher on my team who's been working with

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Speaker 2: Just as a quick reminder here, this is not just

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Speaker 5: You know, meeting with influential people, partying, eating only the

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Speaker 5: he will have guests rights, since that's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't been deployed.

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Speaker 5: Or signing a contract to go in an active combat zone.

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Speaker 5: Looking at the profiles that commented on the post when

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Speaker 2: All this should give you an idea of what kind

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Speaker 1: Now, As I mentioned.

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Speaker 2: this newspaper is a pro Kremlin wreck, propaganda for Putin

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Speaker 1: They said, quote.

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Speaker 2: The Uzbek born multimillionaire is known to be close to

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Speaker 2: I've got to say that last paragraph is extremely funny.

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Speaker 2: Who in their right mind believes that a man who

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Speaker 2: The only real reason to do that would be some

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Speaker 2: But still, how did Comma sank get the info about

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Speaker 1: Gave it to them.

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Speaker 2: They also said, though that they will be carrying on

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Speaker 2: an investigation into the death of Vladimir Igorov, but that

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Speaker 2: never happened. He just vanished. They stopped investigating. There's been

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Speaker 2: no more news, so I had a look to see

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Speaker 2: if there was anything else. The Investigative Committee for the

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Speaker 2: Toyman Region didn't investigate.

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Speaker 1: There was.

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Speaker 2: Turns out they not only didn't but outright refused to investigate.

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Speaker 1: A torture case.

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty two, a Russian anti fascist activist named

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Speaker 2: Yury Nesnimov was allegedly tortured in police custody. He said

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Speaker 2: had been beaten during an interrogation on September one and

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Speaker 2: tortured in the early hours of September two. He said

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Speaker 2: they threatened to shoot and rape him. He says he

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Speaker 2: was then suffocated with a plastic bag, tortured with electricity,

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Speaker 2: and water boarded. Novaya Gazetta Europe reported the following quote.

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Speaker 2: The investigators also interviewed two employees of Russia's Center for

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Speaker 2: Combating Extremism and detective Rimayov. All of them said no

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Speaker 2: torture had been used on Nesdamov and his testimony had

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Speaker 2: been given without coercion end quote, and so the case

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Speaker 2: was closed without an investigation. Basically, whatever the committee is

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Speaker 2: told by the state is what they say happened. So

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering did the government simply tell the investigative committee

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Speaker 2: for the Toyman Region the Vladimir Igorov died of a

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Speaker 2: heart attack and that was it. Oh, Considering that the

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Speaker 2: investigation then vanished without more official conclusion, it seems quite

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Speaker 2: possible to me. The info was passed to the Kremlin

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Speaker 2: friendly commissant, it was quickly reported as a high issue,

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Speaker 2: and that is that. One last thing. In the wake

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Speaker 2: of Igorov's death, there were many grieving messages on his

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Speaker 2: aforementioned VIK page. That's normal, Norme is completely bad. The

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Speaker 2: comments included quote my condolences to the family and the friends,

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Speaker 2: and at forty six years old, it's too early, creepy,

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Speaker 2: and my condolences to all the family. But two other

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Speaker 2: comments did catch my eye. Both are from now deleted users.

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Speaker 2: The first one says quote he was a very bad person.

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Speaker 2: The second one, the comment is completely deleted from the page.

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Speaker 2: We don't know what it said. It just says this

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Speaker 2: comment has been deleted by the user. The repliers are

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Speaker 2: still there though. Here's what they said. By your tongue,

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Speaker 2: this is how gossip is born. God is your judge,

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Speaker 2: and you are talking nonsense. You're drawing stupid conclusions. Calm

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Speaker 2: down already and let your tongue rest. And have you

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Speaker 2: been informed of anything personally? All in all, I think

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Speaker 2: it's safe to say this is another extremely suspicious death

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