1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Tonight, Trump's signature economic policy. It is in shambles. The 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: sweeping tariffs he falsely promised would liberate hard working Americans 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: have been illegal all along. Today the Supreme Court struck 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: down a huge chunk of the President's trade agenda. The 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: Court ruled he illegally deployed emergency powers authority that he 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: does not have to slap crushing tariffs on nearly every country. 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: The historic decision on presidential power was handed down six 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: to three. Even two of Trump's appointees, Justice Neil Gorsuch 9 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: and Amy Cony Barrett ruled against him. Trump then unleashed 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: this unhinged tirade against the justices who dared to put 11 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: him in his place. 12 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: I'm ashamed of certain members of the Court, absolutely ashamed for. 13 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: Not having the courage to do what's right for our country. 14 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 4: The very unpatriotic and disloyal to our constitution. 15 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 5: They don't want to do the right thing. 16 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: They're afraid of it. 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 6: And Barrett, are you surprised in particular by their decision today? 18 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 3: And do you regret nominating them? I don't want to 19 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 3: say whether or not a regret. I think their decision 20 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 3: was terrible. I think it's an embarrassment to their families. 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 7: You want to know the truth the two of them. 22 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: There's a reason why Trump is attacking our country's separation 23 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: of powers. The New York Times rights the court's ruling 24 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: quote amounted to a declaration of independence. 25 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 7: Let's be real. 26 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: It took more than ten months to get here. Trump's 27 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: illegal tariffs were in effect for three hundred and twenty 28 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: one days before the courts stopped the president's unlawful tax 29 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: on the American. 30 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: People and voters. 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: While they have felt the pain, with sixty percent of 32 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: Americans disapproving of Trump's whiplash trade policy, that is not 33 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: stopping Trump breaking. Just minutes ago, Trump says he signed 34 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: a new executive order imposing an additional ten percent tariff 35 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: on all countries, a new effort to bypass the court's ruling. 36 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 8: Day really strongly said President Trump's tariff's policy is unconstitutional 37 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 8: and illegal. He said, Look, if you want to get tariff's, 38 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 8: the way to do it is to go to Congress 39 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 8: and ask for authorization. And so you know, it's not 40 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 8: a decision about any particular president, it's a decision about 41 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 8: the presidency. And the Chief Justice, writing for six justices 42 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 8: used very strong language about the presidents to the president, saying, 43 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 8: you know, the Constitution requires you to get this affirmative 44 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 8: approval of the Congress, and you can't just do this 45 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 8: on your own. In America, the stroke of the president's 46 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 8: pen is not enough to impose taxes on the American people. 47 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 8: And tarifts are nothing else but taxes, the Chief Justice said, 48 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 8: And I think it's notable that this decision wasn't just 49 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 8: written by some group of lefty justices, to the extent 50 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 8: there even are any. It was written and joined by 51 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 8: six justices, including two justices appointed by Donald Trump himself, 52 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 8: Neil Gorsich and Amy Barrett, both of them saying in 53 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 8: full that these terrorists are un constitutional. And so you know, 54 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 8: when I presented the argument to the Supreme Court on 55 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 8: November fifth, I made about six key points. Every single 56 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 8: one nicole of those six points was accepted one hundred 57 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 8: percent by all six justices today on the Supreme Court. 58 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 9: Where do you think things stands there? There's obviously some 59 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 9: competing narratives here, the US still maintaining that the bottom 60 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 9: line is zero and Richmond for Iranians. But then you 61 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 9: had the Foreign Minister come on Morning Joe yesterday saying, actually, 62 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 9: diplomatic negotiations are apace, and that is not the bottom 63 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 9: line that the administration has, at least in private meetings 64 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 9: offered in discussions. What's your take on where things stand 65 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 9: and whether or not you think limited strikes, which is 66 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 9: what the Wall Street Journal has been reporting, could potentially 67 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 9: be effective. 68 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 5: Well, Jackie, first of all, it's hard to make sense 69 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 5: of US policy because it's somewhere between in coherent and opaque. 70 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 5: United States has assembled all these forces, it's not clear 71 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 5: what the objectives would be, what would be our definition 72 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 5: of success. It's not even clear what triggered it. The 73 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 5: only new thing coming out of Iran the last couple 74 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 5: of months. It's not their nuclear program, not their missile program, 75 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 5: not support for proxies. It's their slaughter of Iranian dissonance. 76 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 5: And it's not at all clear how American aircraft carriers 77 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 5: and the like and airplanes could protect individual Iranians or 78 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 5: bring about regime change or anything else. So I literally 79 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 5: do not understand American policy. And by the way, the 80 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 5: administration hasn't bothered to explain it. Congress hasn't bothered to 81 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 5: hold hearings and ask questions about it, this idea of 82 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 5: a limited strike. Yeah, the president may feel compelled to 83 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 5: do something because threats don't seem to have moved the Iranians. 84 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 5: The problem with limited strikes by definition is what happens 85 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 5: if they don't do the trick? Do you then double 86 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 5: down or triple down? Then we find ourselves in a 87 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 5: large war. And by the way, Iran has all sorts 88 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 5: of ways to inflict pain, shipping on oil refineries in Wales, 89 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 5: on American forces in the region, so we couldn't We 90 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 5: shouldn't kid ourselves. But simply because we want to keep 91 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 5: an interaction limited, the Iranians do. It only takes one 92 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 5: to start something, but it takes two to manage it 93 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 5: and end it. 94 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 10: Today and Seoul, they watched and cheered as if it 95 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 10: were a play by play. A judge making the final 96 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,679 Speaker 10: call and the sentencing of former president Yun Suck Yule, 97 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 10: And after Yun's fate was sealed, his critics celebrated, I. 98 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: Was watching the martial law, which is something I'd only 99 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: seen in history books unfold in real time. I hoped 100 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: for a harsher punishment so that history wouldn't repeat itself. 101 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 11: His supporters were left shocked, helped you all watching what 102 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 11: appears to be a collapsive rule of law. Today, I'm 103 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 11: compelled to question whether we should proceed with an appeal 104 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 11: or continue to participate in these criminal proceedings at all. 105 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 10: Twenty twenty four, when President Union declared martial law, his 106 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 10: middle of the night announcement sent members in a military 107 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 10: to Parliament. Protesters protected the building and their democracy inside. 108 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 10: The only thing that stops soldiers from parliament floor furniture 109 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 10: deployed by opposition staffers that by time until the unanimous 110 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 10: vote lifted martial law. From start to finish. It was 111 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 10: only six hours, but it was and has been a 112 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 10: test of South Korean democracy. 113 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 12: To me, the most remarkable stories the resilience and the 114 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 12: sustainability of South Korean democracy in the face of unprecedented challenges. 115 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 10: Frank Jnuzi is the president of the Mansfield Foundation, which 116 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 10: works on US relations with Asia. He calls yunis the 117 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 10: most momentous domestic trial in more than thirty years in 118 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 10: a country that has a history of presidents who've been impeached, jailed, 119 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 10: or overthrown. 120 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 12: Over the last fourteen months, South Korea has emerged from 121 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 12: this process with due process, sustained rule of law, sustained 122 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 12: democracy itself was in the docket in this trial, and 123 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 12: the South Korean people affirmed the value of that democracy, 124 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 12: the resilience of that democracy. Without personalizing the crime, the. 125 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 10: Outcome from Yune could have been much worse. The prosecution 126 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 10: asked for the death penalty, and it wasn't only Yun. 127 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 10: Five other former officials were also convicted, including the former 128 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 10: defense minister, who will spend the next thirty years in prison. 129 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 10: Current President Lee Jmong, Yun's long time rival, has refrained 130 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 10: from politicizing the trial, says Januzzi. 131 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 12: This allowed him to cool down the temperature a bit 132 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 12: and also allowed him to focus really on where he 133 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 12: needed to focus, which was his foreign policy priorities, sustaining 134 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 12: an outreach to Japan and reassuring the United States that 135 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 12: South Korea would be a loyal, faithful ally. 136 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 10: Over the past years, South Korea has faced pressure over 137 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 10: trade and to increase defense spend. You it's been a 138 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 10: balancing act for a democracy. It has now sent a 139 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 10: former president to prison for life. 140 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 13: Rich real quickly, let's say the president does, indeed does 141 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 13: some kind of kinetic action in Iran. How destabilizing. 142 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 14: Will that be to the region. 143 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 5: Again, it all depends upon the Iranian response. 144 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 14: I think internally iran as. 145 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 5: Institutions can probably absorb it. The real question is whether 146 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 5: they retaliate and whether they go after the soiders. You 147 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 5: go after shipping, in which case the oil prices go up. 148 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 5: So in a funny sort of way, after we strike, 149 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 5: if we do, it seeds the initiative to Iran. They've 150 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 5: got to decide how they want to manage the crisis. 151 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 7: So the markets are driven at this point largely by AI. 152 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 12: Right. 153 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 7: We talked about this the magnificent seven mega tech companies 154 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 7: that are not largely impacted by tariffs or mass deportations. 155 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 7: But if you look under that seven, things are much shakier. 156 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 7: And we've talked about it before. So many businesses are 157 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 7: in this no hiring, no firing growth. They're bracing themselves. 158 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 14: Right. 159 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 7: Foreign investors are not feeling great about investing in the US. 160 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 7: And a funny thing, as happy as people have been 161 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 7: about the markets in the last year. 162 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 14: Look abroad. 163 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 7: Markets abroad have been stronger than ours have. 164 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 14: Well. 165 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 7: The amazing thing is that they don't react badly to 166 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 7: Trump anymore. They just kind of grin and bear it 167 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 7: and hope to get through. And the positive for the 168 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 7: markets is that they hope that Trump won't like regulation, 169 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 7: but when something like this happens today, they really like 170 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 7: it because it means that we do adhere to the 171 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 7: rule of law here. And if we're a country that 172 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 7: doesn't adhere to the rule of law, then expect your 173 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 7: markets to fly out the window because nobody's going to 174 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 7: invest a red scent here. 175 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 14: This is the primal screen of a dying regime. 176 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 4: Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on 177 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 4: these people here. 178 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 14: It's not got a free shot. All these networks lying 179 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 14: about the people. The people have Petipbelli full of it. 180 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 14: I know you don't like hearing that. 181 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 4: I know you've trying to do everything in the world 182 00:09:58,360 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 4: to stop there, but you're not going to stop it. 183 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 14: It's going to happen. And where do people like that 184 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 14: go to share the big line? 185 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 3: Mega media? 186 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 15: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of 187 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 15: these people had a conscience. 188 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 4: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? 189 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:19,239 Speaker 4: If that answer is to save my country, this country 190 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: will be saved. 191 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 14: War Room. 192 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 3: Here's your host, Stephen k Bath. 193 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 4: It's Saturday, twenty one February, and they of Earler twenty 194 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 4: twenty six. Obviously, a lot of forces in the world 195 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 4: are coming together to try to thwart President Trump's populist 196 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 4: nationalist revolution here in the United States. 197 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 14: We're gonna get to all that. 198 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 4: I've got two of the top experts EJ and Tony 199 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 4: and Spencer Morrison. Spencer Morrison of the Greek classic book Restoring. 200 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 4: We're going to walk through in a moment all of 201 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 4: this with tariffs and really economic nationalism is what it 202 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 4: is in the country. First, the American system is start 203 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 4: up by Alexander Hamilton. I want to get to the moment. 204 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 4: I got Captain Fanel for an update. Two things. Number one, 205 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 4: Captain Fanel latest, we continue to pour assets into the 206 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 4: Middle East, into the region what they call effect is 207 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 4: a breaking story about Portugal the air bridge. More assets 208 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 4: coming on the air bridge from Portugal in real time. 209 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 4: Your your assessment of where we stand with this as 210 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 4: President Trump refers to a vast armada. 211 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 16: Well, Steve, I think right now we're seeing, as you said, 212 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 16: all the chess pieces are getting into the region, into 213 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 16: the yukonm European Command and Central Commands area of responsibilities, 214 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 16: so from the Eastern Mediterranean down into the Gulf of Oman. 215 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 16: Over on Friday night, the was reported that the USS 216 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 16: Gerald R Ford and its carrier Battlegroup had chopped through, 217 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 16: went through, transited through the Strait of Gibraltar and is 218 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 16: now in the Mediterranean secenae and the latest reporting from 219 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 16: Air on Air asset updates we basically have over three 220 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 16: hundred and fifty combat aircraft that are in the region 221 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 16: both a float and ashore. And more importantly, we have 222 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 16: over one hundred tankers which as allows our combat aircraft, 223 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 16: the F sixteen's, the F twenty two's, the Strike Eagle, 224 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 16: F fifteens, the FN eighteens and the F thirty fives 225 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 16: that have shorter range. Those tankers on your screen can 226 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 16: get now fuel to be able to sustain what is 227 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 16: called air supremacy over a combat area. Normally we talk 228 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 16: about air superiority, which is a temporal time and space 229 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 16: where you have combat air control over a geographic area. 230 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 16: The air supremacy is where you can control the air 231 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 16: at all times in that whole geographic region for a 232 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 16: sustained long, long period of time. And so it seems 233 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 16: to me that we are moving in and preparing our 234 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 16: forces for air supremacy. And I would just say to 235 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 16: mister Haas who talked about managing if we do a strike, 236 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 16: we'll have to manage some kind of a deal with 237 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 16: the Iranians. No, we're not going to manage anything. We're 238 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 16: going to come in and that President Trump decides to 239 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 16: use military force, we will destroy Iran's military one hundred 240 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 16: percent of it. We will take down their srbms or 241 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 16: medium range ballistic missiles, and their naval forces, and their 242 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 16: remaining little air forces that they have, and their air 243 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 16: defense forces, and we will sit over the top of 244 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 16: Iran and call fires down on anybody that tries to 245 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 16: shoot off an air defense missile or a blistic missile. 246 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 16: They may get off a few one or two here 247 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 16: and there, that they're not going to be able to 248 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 16: sustain any kind of campaign against our allies in the 249 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 16: region and against our forces. And this is what's coming 250 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 16: to them. 251 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 4: Captain Fanel Hangar, for a second, I want to hold 252 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 4: you through the break. I want to talk to you 253 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 4: briefly about this President Trump's incrementalism, what they're thinking about, 254 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 4: at least leaking to the Wall Street Journal. We're going 255 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 4: to leave you with Bruce Springsteen in the streets of Minneapolis, 256 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 4: the revolt insurgency in this country, I might add, we're 257 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 4: going to talk about South Korea also, the president got 258 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 4: life in prison, almost got a death sentence, Alsinaro in Brazil, 259 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 4: La Penn in France, jun in South Korea, and President 260 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 4: Donald Trump in the United States of America. Remember Bonnie 261 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 4: Willis and these people wanted to put him away for 262 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 4: twenty or thirty years. 263 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 14: We're also going to go to Georgia. 264 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 4: The government has responded to Abby Lowell and norm Iisen 265 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 4: and they came in full on. We are packed this 266 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 4: morning in the war room. Short commercial break back in 267 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 4: a moment. 268 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 3: For really here's your host, Stephen k Back. 269 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 4: Okay, we're gonna get to EJ and TONI and Spencer 270 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 4: Morrison in just a moment. But there's updates and Sam 271 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 4: fatis going to join us this second hour to go 272 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 4: down and take another cut at this. 273 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 14: Captain fanel Uh. 274 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 4: The Wall Street Journal has done pretty good job reporting 275 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 4: because the Pentagon and the National security folks leaked to 276 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 4: them a lot, and it's a leak to to try 277 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 4: to put out into the public. President Trump's thinking and 278 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 4: get responses. They're they're they're what they're putting for. Is 279 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 4: President Trump's got a strategy and it's kind of trumpion. 280 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 4: You saw that when he didn't do regime change back 281 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 4: in June, when he took down the total obliteration of 282 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 4: the nuclear program and in Venezuela where he took Madu 283 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 4: and the wife and cut a deal with the rest 284 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 4: of the regime. This would be he would, uh, he's 285 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 4: got this deal he wants. If they're not there, he'll 286 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 4: do a limited strike, dust them up a little bit, 287 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 4: see if they if that opens up to him. If not, 288 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 4: If they is, they'll go back and talk. If they 289 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 4: if they tap him along, He'll hit it again and 290 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 4: continue to do this until he reaches some point where 291 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 4: he goes full kinetic. Is that a strategy that you 292 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 4: think works? Are from your years as in naval intelligence. 293 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 16: It's a clearly a strategy that doesn't work. And we 294 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 16: know that from the Vietnam War with Lyndon Johnson. It 295 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 16: was a failed strategy that ended up US losing that 296 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 16: war even though we were winning it. So the idea 297 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 16: that President Trump's gonna tap this along, I'm not not 298 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 16: really sure that that's what he'll end up doing. He 299 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 16: may be signaling that now, as you mentioned. But I 300 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 16: think what we saw at Midnight Hammer was not something 301 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 16: that was incremental. That was a full on strike against 302 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 16: her nuclear No, no. 303 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 4: No, that's just not true. That's not true. That's not true. 304 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 4: The Israelis wanted a regime strike. They started as a 305 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 4: regime strike. They couldn't defend themselves. President Trump, that was 306 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 4: a very limited game for you're just you're just wrong there. 307 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 4: Let me ask you, Kevin, final, let me ask you 308 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 4: a question. Hang let me ask you a question. If 309 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 4: we do the what you want is unload fire on 310 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 4: the Iranian military, the Ayatola in the Mulahs and crush 311 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 4: it all. Who owns the civil war that follows? Who 312 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,719 Speaker 4: owns the chaos that takes place in Iran? 313 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 14: Do we own it? Does Israel own it? Or the 314 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 14: Iranian people own it? 315 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 16: The Iranian people own it, obviously, And that previous event 316 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 16: from last June, that was our action. We took the 317 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 16: strikes on Midnight Hammer. That was Operation Midnight Hammer. That 318 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 16: is a US military operation. 319 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 4: So captain, but captain fin now, hangout, hang on. 320 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 14: But that was a limited strike. 321 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 4: President Trump took out total obliteration of the nuclear program. 322 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 4: The Israeli initiation of the entire. 323 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 14: War was a regime change strike. 324 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 4: They took out Wikoff's counterparties in the negotiation, They hit 325 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 4: the military, they had Masad guys killing people. They continued 326 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 4: to push for a regime change strike, and President Trump 327 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 4: wouldn't do it. The reason he had to bail it 328 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 4: out is that, as you remember, and this is why 329 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 4: the ballistic missiles are on the target list now, is 330 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 4: that Tel Aviv was getting crushed tel Aviv, and now 331 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 4: Israeli media reports that that tel Aviv was taking incoming. 332 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 4: President Trump had a very targeted, limited strike for obliteration 333 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 4: of a program, but it was not a regime change strike. 334 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 14: You agree with that. 335 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 16: Back in June, I have one hundred percent agree. He said, 336 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 16: my objective is to take out the nuclear program, which 337 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 16: he did in one hundred percent full capacity Venezuela. The 338 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 16: same thing I have to get rid of Maduro one 339 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 16: hundred percent. I got rid of Maduro. So this time 340 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 16: when the President comes out and says, I AM going 341 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 16: to take action because the Iranian regime will not give 342 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 16: up nukes or will not stop terrorizing their people and 343 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 16: learning their people. We don't know exactly what the president 344 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 16: will say is his final rationale or the philoscope of 345 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 16: hangars hang out, but when he says it, he will in. 346 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 4: Fact, why do we caress, Yeah, that he has in 347 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 4: the region to do that. 348 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 14: I got it. But if we make the arguments about 349 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 14: terrorizing their people. 350 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 4: And we take out the military in the Ietolas and 351 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 4: the Mullahs, then we've come to the defense of the people. 352 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 14: Then we own everything thereafter. 353 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 4: You just can't say, oh, because terrorizing people and then 354 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 4: we take them out, and then then you fall into chaos. 355 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 14: We own that, do we not? 356 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 16: I don't know how you say it falls into chaos. 357 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 16: The people have been in the streets protesting to take 358 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 16: their government back. They only cannot take it back because 359 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 16: the Iranian regime is murdering them in the dark of 360 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 16: the night and in the streets, and they're they're terrorized. 361 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 4: So these are all these are these, these are these 362 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 4: are all jeff These are all Jeffersonian democrats that we have. 363 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 4: We'll have find we'll have this discussion later. I think 364 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 4: you're just one thousand percent dead wrong. But uh, let's 365 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 4: come it to Korea. Let's put it to the South Korea. 366 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 4: The mainstream media is covering this up like it's a 367 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 4: return to democracy and that this new South Korean government 368 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 4: is some great ally of the United States and Japan. 369 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 4: Gordon Chang's got a tweet out that I think's reality. 370 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 4: Yet two days ago we came very close to having 371 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 4: a death sentence on a conservative politician that at least 372 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 4: tried to work with the United States as an ally. 373 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 4: Do you believe the Chinese Communist Party and others are 374 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,479 Speaker 4: in back of this move in South Korea? And do 375 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 4: you think you've can count on South Korea now as 376 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 4: a full ally in East Asia? 377 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 16: I think the cold open with the MSNBC analyst on 378 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 16: saying that South Korea is moving towards Japan is not 379 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 16: correct it They're moving into the sphere of the PRC. 380 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 16: And we just saw on the eighteenth of February, as 381 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 16: Gordon puts in his tweet, we had B fifty two 382 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 16: bombers fly into the region, which is a routine operation 383 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 16: for our air forces, and the South Koreans did not 384 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 16: help escort those bombers. Only our FNA eighteens did that 385 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 16: are there in the theater on peninsula and after that occurred. 386 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 16: The South Korean Minister of Defense called the commander of 387 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 16: US Forces Korea in and dressed him down for why 388 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 16: we were doing that. This has never happened before, as 389 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 16: Gordon notes, and he's correct, and this is not This 390 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 16: is an indicator of where Lee is and where his 391 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 16: head is at. So we need to be very careful 392 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 16: and not allow the same people that told us that 393 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 16: we should go along with six party talks and all 394 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 16: these other crazy schemes on the peninsula, we should not 395 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 16: follow their advice. We need to be careful where we're 396 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 16: proceeding with South Korea, and we need to hold them 397 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 16: to account. We have twenty five thousand plus American soldiers, sailors, marines, 398 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 16: and airmen on the peninsula and they're there to defend 399 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 16: them and if they're going to treat us like this, 400 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 16: then we need to talk to them about that and 401 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 16: where we're at. And I'm afraid though, that this could 402 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 16: be a ploy for them to justify removing our troops there, 403 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 16: which would be something that would be very dangerous for 404 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 16: America and the region's national security. 405 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 4: Do you think President Trump should we insert ourselves now 406 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 4: since you've seen Balson Arlapin. Should we insert ourselves now 407 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 4: in this situation with the South Korean government and say 408 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 4: it's just not acceptable to us. 409 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 14: The guy got life in prison. 410 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 16: Sir, well, we should have said something before the presidential 411 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 16: elections and influence the elections to the extent that we 412 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 16: said this is what we stand for, and we didn't 413 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 16: do that, and so we're eating the results of that 414 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 16: in action. So today we should be saying something. I 415 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 16: would hope that President Trump and Secretary Rubio would be 416 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 16: contacting the South Korean president privately first to express our 417 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 16: displeasure how they reacted to our flights in the Yellow 418 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 16: Sea and the West Sea and their lack of support 419 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 16: and in fact dressing us down. And if they don't 420 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 16: want to deal with us on that, then you have 421 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 16: to take it public, but first try it in private. 422 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 4: Captain, we're not going to be back on the show 423 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 4: until Monday, and we'll get you back on. 424 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 14: You've been. 425 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 4: You've been, as much as I may not like it, 426 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 4: you've been correct and everything about this Iran build up. 427 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 4: What are you looking for over the weekend the next 428 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 4: twenty four to forty eight hours, What are you looking 429 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 4: for as tells of what actually is going to happen here, Sir. 430 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 16: Well, I think the Iranians came out today or last 431 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 16: night and said that they're trying to pen together some 432 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 16: kind of compromise or some kind of deal. We'll see 433 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 16: how that goes. I would expect to see the Ford 434 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 16: transit from the Western Mediterranean Sea to the Eastern Mediterranean Sea. 435 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 16: It may even come down through the Suez, but it 436 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 16: may just sit off in the Eastern med to be 437 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 16: used there. But we should watch for any kind of 438 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 16: lash out the Iranians, the Chinese, and the Russians. We're 439 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 16: doing them naval drills here in the last twenty four 440 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 16: to forty eight hours. What goes on with that? And 441 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 16: do the Iranians try to play any games with sneak 442 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 16: attacks or shutting down the strait or attempting to shut 443 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 16: down the strait that they may try. So, I think 444 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 16: for now it's back in the diplomatic court. All the 445 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 16: pieces are moved in. Maybe we have another option to 446 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 16: ratchet up if they don't come to the table cleanly. 447 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 16: Maybe President Trump says, hey, I'm going to send the 448 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 16: Bush now and we'll have three carriers over there. So 449 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 16: he still got room to maneuver to get across to 450 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 16: the Mulas that we're not going to accept this anymore. 451 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 14: Last, thanks, we get about the man. 452 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 16: As I said, this is about not Israel and other things, 453 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 16: even though there's issues there, and I know you like 454 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 16: to talk about them, but we have to remember in 455 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 16: nineteen eighty three the Iranians killed two hundred and forty 456 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 16: one Americans in Beirut, and they've killed Americans and Kobar Towers, 457 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 16: the USS, coal and a host of other things. So 458 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 16: this is not exclusively about Israel. This is about what 459 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 16: Iran's done to us for forty seven years, and the 460 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 16: pimple is about ready to be popped. 461 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 14: Let me, let me. 462 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 4: I also will remind you that President Reagan removed every 463 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 4: other military and says the biggest mistake he made, and 464 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 4: of course we made decisions to not hit back at 465 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 4: the others, which I think you're correct there. We should 466 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 4: have last question though, you've brought up something here that 467 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 4: I think people need to get. 468 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 14: Their arms around. 469 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 4: The great power struggle point we got about a minute. 470 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,239 Speaker 4: Your point is, hey, when you put this amount of 471 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 4: assets in this commander in chief, you don't really have 472 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 4: options of not using it. 473 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 14: Is that where we are. 474 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 4: Right now in the in the in the Greater War 475 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 4: with the China and unfortunately the Russian partnership that right now, 476 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 4: if we get this many assets in there, they're going 477 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 4: to be used. 478 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 16: Well, there's nothing as determinists, so we can always and 479 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 16: I think President Trump is demonstrated that heat is ability 480 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 16: to make decisions contrary to popular opinion or determinism. But 481 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 16: I think we're in a position right now where everything's 482 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 16: moved forward and the Iranians are not compromising. So if 483 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 16: they're not going to compromise, oh, there's only one other solution. 484 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 14: Captain Fanel. 485 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 4: Where do we get your writings and know occasionally putting 486 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 4: stuff up on American greatness? 487 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 14: Is that? Is that where we should go and look, Yeah. 488 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 16: That's probably the best for me. 489 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, captain, thank you so much for taking time away. 490 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 14: We look forward to seeing you on Monday and tracking this. 491 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 14: Thank you. 492 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 4: Captain Jim Finell, former head of Naval Intelligence for the 493 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 4: Pacific Fleet. Okay, we're gonna pivot now to economic nationalism. 494 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 4: Yesterday was it a death blow as the media wants 495 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 4: reported to President Trump's redoing of commercial relationships through trade 496 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 4: deals in tariffs, or did they shut the front door, 497 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 4: but open up the back door. We have two experts, 498 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 4: Spencer Morrison of the classic book Reshoring, and of course 499 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 4: our own EJ. And Tony, one of the smartest guys 500 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 4: out there about the American worker. 501 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 14: We take a short commercial break. Take your phone out now, 502 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 14: more than ever you should be talking to Birch Gold. 503 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 4: Take your phone at text Bannon b A n n 504 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 4: own at nine eight nine eight nine eight. You get 505 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 4: the ultimate guide, totally free, no obligation for investing. 506 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 14: In gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. 507 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 14: Short commercial break. We'll be back in a moment. 508 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 3: Here's your host, Stephen k Back. 509 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 14: You know. 510 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 4: One of the things we try to do here, whether 511 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 4: it's geopolitics, capital markets, everything related to the fight, the 512 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 4: legal aspects, the fight for our country, obviously lots of economics, 513 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 4: populist economic nationalism. We always try to put you ahead 514 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 4: of the curve by bringing the smartest people that really 515 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 4: talk understand topics and really talk it through. 516 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 14: That's why Captain Fanewen look. 517 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 17: Obviously I disagree with a lot about this Iranian situation, 518 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 17: but the reality is he's been dead spot on about 519 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 17: the military aspect of this. 520 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 4: What's interesting, Sam Fat is gonna join us later. It's 521 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 4: going to come down to intel. I think a lot 522 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 4: of this is going to come down to intelligence. Exactly 523 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 4: where the military in Iran is, where the eyetolas are, 524 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 4: not physically where they are. But what this really is 525 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 4: President Trump's incremental because obviously he's running up the flagpole. 526 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 4: Is there a chance to do incrementalism here? Or are 527 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 4: the Persians just going to know negotiate, which they're famous for, 528 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 4: negotiate to have another negotiation. That's where we had Treta 529 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 4: Parsi on last night. Now he's quite pro Iranian, but 530 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 4: he brought up the part that I think has to 531 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 4: be addressed immediately. We're not in direct negotiations with them. 532 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 4: It's all this kabuki theater where they talk to you know, 533 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 4: they're in Man and they got Oman and they're here. 534 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 4: They talk and they go in another room and talk. 535 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 4: Even Treatah realizes that with this type of military surrounding them, 536 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 4: you got to stop with the formalities and drop the Internet. 537 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 4: You've got to get in a room with Kushner, and 538 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 4: you got to get in a room with Steve Witkoff, 539 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 4: the president's emissaries and see if there's a deal. If 540 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 4: there's not a deal, then the balloon's going to go up, folks. 541 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 4: I want to pivot now, Okay, President Trump and trying 542 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 4: to He's doing something to change fifty years of sellout of. 543 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 14: The American worker. 544 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 4: Number one is the Big Beautiful Bill, which is a 545 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 4: supply side. It maximizes to the extent you can the 546 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 4: reinforcement of investment in capital equipment in the United States 547 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 4: to bring manufacturing jobs back. 548 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 14: Because President Trump. 549 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 4: Has seen through the folly of gutting our manufacturing and 550 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 4: trying to turn us into a service economy. Everybody that 551 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 4: told you on Wall Street and all these puns were 552 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 4: not kind of wrong, they're dead wrong. 553 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 14: Now he's redoing the commercial relationships. 554 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 4: He's using trade deals and terrorists as a forcing function 555 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 4: to force international operations to make their plant and equipment 556 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 4: here and therefore higher American workers and have this whole 557 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 4: ecosystem around manufacturing that will rejuvenate our economy based upon 558 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 4: a plan written by Alexander Hamilton that is just one 559 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 4: level down from the Declaration of Independence in the Constitution. 560 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 4: The Report on Manufactures that the genius Alexander Hamilton wrote 561 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 4: in his earliest days as the first Secretary the Treasure 562 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 4: and you heard Scott Besson talked about it yesterday at 563 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 4: the Dallas Economic Club. And I want to reinforce Rob 564 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 4: Sig and Parker Sig to play that entire thing. Yesterday 565 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 4: shows you the difference between Real America's voice and other channels. 566 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 4: Other channels are going to run around and talk about 567 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 4: this the noise of the day. Here, it's pure signal 568 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 4: all the time. Now the Supreme Court has stepped into there. 569 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 4: EJ and TONI. We read your text message you sent 570 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 4: me from the trend. You're coming from Wall Street back 571 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 4: to the Capitol. Walk me through what you had to 572 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 4: say yesterday. Your feelings are because the lefts out there today, 573 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 4: there's a spike in the football. 574 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 14: It's illegal, it's illegitimate. 575 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 4: Trump's a dictator. The Supreme Court stood up to him 576 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 4: as separation of powers. But also you brought up this 577 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 4: act from nineteen thirty that gives Trump even more leverage. 578 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 4: President Trump even more leverage. Give us your assessment, sir, Yeah. 579 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 15: Steve, it's amazing to hear the people on Miss Now 580 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 15: and all the other loser networks talk about how Trump's 581 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 15: a dictator. He's the worst dictator ever. The people that 582 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 15: he he got on the Supreme Court voted against him. 583 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 14: Are you kidding me? 584 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 15: I've never seen a dictator fail to get his way 585 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 15: on so many different things. Regardless, doesn't matter. Let's get 586 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 15: into the meat of this, Steve, You're absolutely right. You 587 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 15: can go back to the Terriff Act of nineteen thirty, 588 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 15: section three three eight of that law. And again, this 589 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 15: is almost one hundred years old here, all right. This 590 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 15: is not as if it's some new fangled thing. Along 591 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 15: with the terrify Acts of the Trade Acts in the 592 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 15: sixties and seventies. We've seen them be used, we've seen 593 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 15: them be held up in court. If we go back 594 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 15: to this particular law though from nineteen thirty, it actually 595 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 15: gives the Chief Executive the ability to issue tariffs up 596 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 15: to fifty percent, and if he wants to go beyond that, 597 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 15: he can issue outright embargoes. So again, this is an 598 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 15: incredibly powerful law. And what he in order to do that, Steve, 599 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 15: what he needs is to find as a fact the 600 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 15: law says that there has been some kind of discrimination 601 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:05,719 Speaker 15: against US commerce. Well, that is an incredibly broad definition. 602 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 15: It's a very large umbrella under which you will find 603 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 15: everything that Trump is trying to fight against. When the 604 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 15: Chinese engage in intellectual property theft, when they engage in 605 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 15: subsidization of industry and dumping of products here in the 606 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 15: United States, when Canada imposes quotas on US dairy, when 607 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 15: you have American automotive manufacturers who face unfair trading practices, 608 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 15: whether they be terror for non tariff barriers in the EU. 609 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 15: I mean, you name it. All of the different things 610 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 15: that were cited in that book that Greer and his 611 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 15: folks put together last year, All of the different unfair 612 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 15: trading practices from around the world, all of these different 613 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 15: discriminations against US commerce that are faced that are instituted 614 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 15: by other nations, again from literally around the globe. Everything 615 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 15: falls under the umbrella laid out in section three three 616 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 15: eight of the Terrriffact of nineteen thirty And I believe, actually, 617 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 15: if I remember the opinion correctly in Justice Kavanaugh's descent, 618 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 15: I think he actually mentioned this law as well in 619 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 15: his list of about half a dozen different teriff authorities 620 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 15: the president can use. So, Steve, what I'm getting at 621 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 15: here is this, although getting rid of AIPA, saying AEPA 622 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 15: no longer can be used institute tariffs. That does limit 623 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,959 Speaker 15: the president in terms of his speed and his flexibility 624 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 15: with which he can implement tariffs. But that's about it. 625 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 15: This changes in my opinion, this changes nothing in the 626 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 15: long run. It has a short term impact on the 627 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 15: president's trade policy absolutely, and again it affects I think 628 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 15: the speed and the flexibility he has in terms of 629 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 15: making decisions with these negotiations. He can't necessarily make the 630 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 15: snap decisions turning tariffs on and off. But again, as 631 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 15: long as he can demonstrate some kind of discrimination against 632 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 15: US commerce, as the law says, he finds it as 633 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 15: a fact act. It's a blind check. 634 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 4: Spencer, you've written the definitive of eger we're in come 635 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,479 Speaker 4: right back to you, Spencer, You've written the definitive book 636 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 4: on reshoring. The time he couldn't have been perfect came 637 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 4: out last year. Your assessment EJ saying, hey, three oh 638 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 4: one's two thirty two is all the stuff we use 639 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 4: in the first term. And I know Navarre and those 640 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 4: guys Jamison Greed, they got all the analysis done. They're 641 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 4: going to springboard this thing forward. Your assessment, sir, since 642 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 4: you're the expert. 643 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on the show with Steve no 644 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 2: I agree with I agree with my friend. The reality 645 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 2: is is that there are many many different legal avenues 646 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 2: for President Trump to impose further tariffs. This is sort 647 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 2: of a hiccup along the road, But ultimately I think 648 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 2: this is a good opportunity for the President to sort 649 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 2: of take stock and look at what we actually need 650 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 2: to do to set up a trade policy that's not 651 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 2: going to just be something that's at the whim of 652 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 2: the presidency, but change the entire sort of economic cultural shift. 653 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 14: Right. 654 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 2: What we have to do is we have to get 655 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: back to the situation where we were, you know, fifty 656 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 2: years ago, where terraffs were not simply being imposed of 657 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 2: on an ad hoc basis, but were baked into the 658 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 2: fabric of the American legal and economic landscape. America prospered 659 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: under the American system, which was derived again from Alexander 660 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 2: Hamilton's Report on Manufactures all throughout the eighteen hundreds. That 661 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 2: period where America industrialized and the average worker grew to 662 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 2: become the most prosperous worker in the world, all of 663 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 2: that was done under a high terraff regime. America had 664 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 2: the highest average tarif rates in the world over forty percent, 665 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 2: over forty percent. And that was at a time in 666 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 2: history when we didn't have bulk shipping. That was at 667 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 2: a time when you know, foreign trade was not such 668 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 2: a large proportion of our overall economy. So what president 669 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 2: had to do at this day? 670 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, how do you bake it in? President Trump can 671 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 4: move mountains. You're saying, Hey, the innovator trade deals and 672 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 4: redoing the commercial relationships is fine, But you're saying, we 673 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 4: have a deeper he has a deeper challenge here. 674 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 14: We got to bake it into the and. 675 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 4: To basically a tech a tech bro oligarch and Wall 676 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 4: Street lords of easy money that are adamantly. 677 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 14: Opposed to what you're saying, sir. 678 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 4: Right now, they're spending all day in the in these 679 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,280 Speaker 4: fricking frontier labs trying to get rid of the American worker. 680 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 4: So how are we going to I agree with you 681 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 4: a million percent, Tell me how President Trump's going to 682 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 4: do that when you got both Wall Street, the corporate 683 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 4: America and most importantly the tech bros that spit on 684 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 4: the floor as soon as you mentioned that, sir, I mean, it's. 685 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 2: Not pill battle, but it begins, it ends with the 686 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 2: American people. President Trump has to take this case directly 687 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 2: to the American people and have people understand exactly what's 688 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,240 Speaker 2: going on. I think that this needs to be packaged 689 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 2: in a way that people can understand. Everybody he understands, 690 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 2: you know, the national security is an important you know, 691 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 2: national security is of utmost importance. Package terrorists as a 692 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 2: part of that. I mean, think about the national security 693 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,479 Speaker 2: concerns in America doesn't manufacture its own GPUs when we're 694 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 2: in entering into the AI age, right, I mean, what 695 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 2: about the fact the country doesn't manufacture you know, like 696 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 2: a light, bulbs, ball, bearings engines. Right, The entire country 697 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 2: is over the last fifty years, has been integrated into 698 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 2: a global economic system and in such a way that 699 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 2: the economy is now dependent on foreign countries products. 700 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 4: Hangover second, Spencer EJ. Are you buying Spencer's argument? And 701 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 4: if you buy it, how do we do it? 702 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 15: Well, Steve, it's a great question. Again, I think the 703 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 15: president has a lot of options here, right, he has 704 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 15: a lot of paths forward. Now, would it be a 705 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 15: whole heck of a lot easier if Congress gets on board? Absolutely, 706 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 15: And I think that's one of the reasons why it's 707 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 15: important to recognize all of the problems with international trade. 708 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 4: But but hang on, hang on, this is why you 709 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 4: guys are going to be the forefront of changing this 710 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 4: the House. Trump could not get if you put it 711 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 4: to if you go back to the Republican Conference and 712 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 4: you go to the Hassett rule, which you have to 713 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 4: have a majority of of the majority, right, you have 714 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 4: to have enough in the House Conference to put forward 715 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 4: his trade policies today if put to a vote of 716 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 4: the House, let me be brutally, Frank would not do 717 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 4: it because there's still they're neoliberals. They're they're they're believe 718 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 4: in the school they're raised on the mother's milk of 719 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 4: Milton Friedman. They're not with Spencer Morrison, they're not with EJ. 720 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 4: And Tony, they're not with Donald J. Trump, or they're 721 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 4: not with Stephen K. Bannon, the populist nationalists. I mean, 722 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 4: you know. 723 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 14: These guys better than I do. And I'm not even 724 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 14: talking about the Senate. Forget the Senate. I'm talking in 725 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 14: the House. 726 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,280 Speaker 4: They may all sing out of the hymnal of President 727 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 4: Trump and MAGA. 728 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 14: But if you went in put your what you and. 729 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 4: Spencer Morrison are talking about, which I think is absolutely logical. 730 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 14: How many votes do you think we get, sir. 731 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 15: Well, not enough, that's for sure. And Steve, look, this 732 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 15: is why, and I'm not necessarily sure you need to 733 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 15: get different people in there, you know it. I think 734 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 15: it actually was Milton Friedman. One of the things he 735 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 15: said that I definitely agree with was that getting the 736 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 15: right things through Congress is not necessarily a matter of 737 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,240 Speaker 15: getting the right people in there, but giving the wrong 738 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 15: people the right incentives. In other words, it doesn't matter 739 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 15: who you put in Congress necessarily. But if they know 740 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 15: that voting against these things will result in their loss 741 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 15: in the next election, then chances are they're going to 742 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 15: change their mind and they're going to vote the way 743 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 15: the people want them to. So I think the problem is, 744 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 15: maybe more so, we have to change the hearts and 745 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 15: minds of more voters out there. We need to get 746 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 15: people to understand that the kind of Ivory Tower world 747 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 15: from which Milton Friedman was often speaking is not what 748 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 15: we have today. Look, if you are coming at this problem, 749 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 15: or I should say, if you're coming at any kind 750 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 15: of situation from a perfectly idealistic world, then you would 751 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 15: never want to impose tariffs. In other words, if everything 752 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 15: is already fine, if there is no problem, you don't 753 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 15: want to then impose terroriffs. If the patient doesn't have cancer, 754 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:30,240 Speaker 15: you don't. 755 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 14: Want to give them chemotherapy. But that's not the world 756 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 14: we live in. 757 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 4: The mercantilist in the mercantilist strategy of the Chinese Communist Party, 758 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 4: right which they learned from the British East India Company. 759 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 14: We're going to take a short commercial break. 760 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 4: Spencer Morrison, the author of Reshoring in the Great aj Antony, 761 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 4: who know it's more about the American working man than 762 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 4: anybody in the United States of America. Also, we're going 763 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 4: to Georgia in the Crime of the Century next in 764 00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 4: the World. 765 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 3: Say, here's your host, Stephen K. 766 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 4: B Okay, Spencer, we're gonna have you back on We 767 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 4: have more time. Where do people go get get to 768 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 4: get restoring? 769 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 14: Where they go to your site, Sir. 770 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,760 Speaker 2: Hi Steve. You can follow me on real sp Morrison 771 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 2: on x. The book's available on Amazon. It's also available 772 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 2: directly from Calamo Press. Reshore How Tariffs We'll Bring Our 773 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 2: Jobs Home? Revived the American Dream. You can also find 774 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 2: my work on Nationaleconomics Editorial dot com. 775 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 14: You did amazing job in Gray Delaney. What brilliants. 776 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 4: The timing of your books are exquisite. Thank you so much. Spencer, 777 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 4: feel better. We'll talk to you over the weekends. We'll 778 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 4: see you back here Monday. Spencer's very ill with the flu, 779 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 4: but joined us. Uh ej Also, we're gonna get back. 780 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 4: We've been sending your clips to everybody where. Do people 781 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 4: go on us on Twitter this weekend to follow you, sir. 782 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,720 Speaker 14: We'll have you back on early in the week. 783 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 15: Yeah, that'll be the best place to follow me, Steve. 784 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 15: The handle there is at real Ejantoni and thank you. 785 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 15: Thank you so much for having me on, Steve. It's 786 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 15: such an important issue. There's so much misinformation going around 787 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 15: right now, so again, thank you for having me on 788 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 15: and for helping to clarify all this. 789 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 14: No, we're going to have you on more. You have 790 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 14: the back of the American working man and woman, sir. 791 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 4: Okay, Harry mcdouglan's going to join us, but we have 792 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 4: a long coal open. You have to see from the 793 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 4: mainstream media about Georgia. They're very focused on Harry. They're 794 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 4: very folks and the team of Georgia. They're very focus 795 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 4: in the world. 796 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:26,399 Speaker 14: Let's hit it. 797 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 18: Trump's visit comes amid escalating threats to federalized state when 798 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,919 Speaker 18: elections which would go against the Constitution. Just that old 799 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 18: thing for now. A Trump aligned that Georgia Election Board 800 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 18: has declined to intervene in Fulton County, but notably, one 801 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 18: of the five members left the door open to further action, 802 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 18: telling reporters quote, I'm waiting to see what happens with 803 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 18: the dj and the FBI seizure and see what comes 804 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 18: out of that. 805 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 16: Yeah. 806 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 6: Look, Donald Trump and is cast the characters that follow 807 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 6: him as Republicans. This is all a solution in search 808 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 6: of a problem, and they want to try to fit 809 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 6: their narrative of this election being rigged through this shiny object. 810 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 6: In this shiny object, it's all been lies and continues 811 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 6: to grow and they're doubling down on it. Look, if 812 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 6: somebody shows up to the voter rights conversation, access to 813 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 6: voting conversation fairly and squarely, then they're not trying to 814 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 6: limit crowds. They're trying to open up access and just validate. 815 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 6: That's what this should should all be about. And it's 816 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,479 Speaker 6: all about those exceptions. What about that nurse who works 817 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 6: at twenty four hour shift to support her family that 818 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 6: can't show up on election day, that has to mail 819 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,240 Speaker 6: in that ballot early. What about that person that's homebound 820 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 6: do to an injury or an illness. The list goes 821 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 6: on and on. Look, this is an outright attempt for 822 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 6: Donald Trump to put his thumb on the scale. You 823 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 6: have to look no further than the FBI raids that 824 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 6: had nothing to do with the twenty twenty election, that's 825 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 6: been validated, certified, handcounted, double count all of it. It 826 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 6: has to do with sowing little seeds of doubt so 827 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 6: that he can claim fraud when they lose the midterms in. 828 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 9: Twenty six Mister Duncan, I want to stay with you 829 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 9: a second this though, because in twenty twenty, you were 830 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,760 Speaker 9: one of a handful of Republicans really across the country 831 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 9: that actually stood up against Trump and maintained that you 832 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 9: had seen no evidence of voter fraud that Trump was claiming. 833 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 12: Do you think that there's anyone. 834 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:22,240 Speaker 9: Left in an elected position or an election administration position 835 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 9: in Georgia who if there were similar efforts to overturn 836 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,879 Speaker 9: the results of a future election, would actually be there 837 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 9: and be in place to stand up to President Trump 838 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 9: and the Republican apparatus. 839 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 6: I certainly hope so. I mean, that's the backbone of democracy. 840 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 6: And it's interesting to see how Republicans react to me 841 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 6: in my stance to push back as far as they 842 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 6: possibly can. In private, they're very supportive. They can't wait 843 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,839 Speaker 6: for Donald Trump to get out of the scene. They 844 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 6: cannot explain tariffs or Greenland, or weaponizing the Department of Justice, 845 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,840 Speaker 6: or these ice raids, or even these vicious attempts to 846 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 6: try to limit voting just to steer the election towards Republicans, 847 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 6: but publicly, most of them the courage to say it 848 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 6: out loud. Until Republicans have the courage to call Donald 849 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 6: Trump out for being the worst mistake this country's ever made, 850 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 6: they're still going to have those problems. And the best 851 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 6: thing we can do is Democrats is win these elections. 852 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 6: Continue to win them fairly and squarely. Continue to harness 853 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,359 Speaker 6: the momentum of this movement to push MAGA back into 854 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 6: the closet and let us run this country in a 855 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 6: way that's fair and equitable, even for the people that 856 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 6: don't vote for us. I think that's an important cornerstone 857 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 6: of democracy. 858 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 13: Trump says he will issue executive order to get voter 859 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 13: ID requirements before mid terms. To tas point, and as 860 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,839 Speaker 13: you well know, elections are up to the states. So 861 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 13: if the president issues this executive order, would it be 862 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 13: illegal on its face? Would states be obligated to comply? 863 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 6: Well, if you believe in the constitution, like I do 864 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 6: in every American should The answer is yes, it would 865 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 6: be an illegal attempt to you serve democracy as we 866 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 6: know it. These elections are not about the outcomes. They're 867 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 6: about the process, and there's going to be ebbs and 868 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 6: flows throughout time. Donald Trump wants to win through any 869 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,319 Speaker 6: means necessary. We've seen that since twenty twenty. We've seen 870 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 6: the disgusting attempts. He cares nothing about the law, He 871 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 6: cares nothing about the constitution. He only cares about the 872 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 6: person looking at him in the mirror. 873 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 19: The thing that makes me continue to worry about the 874 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 19: unique threat that this administration at this hour poses to 875 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 19: the constitutional order is the unfolding January sixth, not just 876 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 19: the insurrection at the Capitol, but the recruiting of fake electors, 877 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 19: the challenging of the results. If Mike Pence had not 878 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 19: done the courageous thing. And I have liberal friends who say, 879 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 19: why do you give him credit? I said, because you've 880 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 19: never been in the Oval office being yelled at, so 881 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 19: shut up, right, this is your point about knowing people Mike. 882 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 12: The braying mob out front saying. 883 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 19: With the gallery right, So he did the right thing. 884 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 19: The strategy, as we know from Pierre Navarro and others, 885 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 19: was that they were going to delay the certification into 886 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 19: the next week. We can have get toward the twentieth 887 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,800 Speaker 19: and then take it to the House because there wouldn't 888 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 19: have been a result out of the election. So what 889 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 19: do you do if he had President Trump had prevailed 890 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 19: in the House, thereby offering a constitutionally sanctified remedy to 891 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 19: an illegitimate result, what. 892 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,399 Speaker 3: Do you do? I don't know. 893 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 19: And I think if he could do it, I think 894 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 19: President Trump would do that again tomorrow. And if you 895 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 19: want to be optimistic and say, well, yes, but it 896 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 19: didn't happen, I just don't think we should be running that, 897 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 19: making that close run of thing. It's why I thought 898 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:14,240 Speaker 19: he was a unique threat. Argued against it, no one cared. 899 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 19: And by the way, the folks who voted for him, 900 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,439 Speaker 19: their votes count absolutely as much as mine did. Right. 901 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 19: I don't think he is an illegitimate president. I do not. 902 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 19: You know they said that about President Biden. I don't 903 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 19: share that. 904 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 17: Right. 905 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 19: A big, big part of this moment and what whether 906 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 19: we emerge from it, is whether people are going to 907 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 19: have the citizen capital, if you will, to accept a 908 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:53,320 Speaker 19: loss and to see a loss as seasonal as opposed 909 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 19: to existential. 910 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 10: You know, you still need help from the boss. 911 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:00,120 Speaker 4: We need help the