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Speaker 2: Harrison dies for the up zone.

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Speaker 3: He's in Touchdown? What a pick at the thirty five

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Speaker 3: Touchdown Trey McBride.

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Speaker 4: Heck of a play by the all world tight end

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Speaker 4: Trey McBride.

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Speaker 2: Oh that was nasty right there, right slam the ground

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Speaker 2: by Buddha Baker like a torpedo. He came flying into

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Speaker 2: the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: All right, we gotta be smart about how we start

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Speaker 2: here on Cardinals gud. I don't want to get into

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Speaker 2: a you know, deficit here on the scoreboard. Sixteen seconds

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Speaker 2: kevy c, Danny Sirek, Darren Urbans. So the game plan

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Speaker 2: off the top? Will we script out the first fifteen

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Speaker 2: or so of the podcast, Danny.

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Speaker 3: Out if you knew that, you guys, don't script it

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Speaker 3: with me because a lot of times I'm left speechless

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Speaker 3: by the open.

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Speaker 2: It's sort of a general royal WI. I guess actually

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Speaker 2: I made that up. But I'm not gonna go with either,

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Speaker 2: wise guy, because that would not be winning behavior. We

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Speaker 2: won't go with that either. We definitely won't go with

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Speaker 2: the weekly picks, even though I haven't looked at him yet.

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Speaker 2: Wait all, Oh that's not good. We definitely won't start

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Speaker 2: with that. Darren, I don't know where is your energy,

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Speaker 2: considering you've already gone to the coffee and we're sixteen

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Speaker 2: seconds in, so you know what. You are at a

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Speaker 2: deficit right now? Seven nothing you're losing.

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Speaker 5: I am at a deficit. I got hit with a

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Speaker 5: little bit of a bug feeling okay, But it's one

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Speaker 5: of those deals where you, like, you get up in

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Speaker 5: the morning and you're like, oh, I think I'm past this,

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Speaker 5: and this is the day goes on you start to

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Speaker 5: realize you're not.

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Speaker 3: I did tell Darren he needed to up the energy

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Speaker 3: for the podcast, because that's what he's known for, is

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Speaker 3: bringing the positive energy.

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Speaker 2: He's the effort guy, the try hard guy. Is that

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Speaker 2: what he is, That's what he's known for.

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Speaker 4: The sarcasm is strong with this one.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna start with a quote. You tell

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Speaker 2: me who which head coach had the following to say,

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Speaker 2: you ready, when I tell you I'm responsible for that,

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Speaker 2: I'm responsible for that. And then the players have to

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Speaker 2: do the same thing and take care of the small things.

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Speaker 2: Why are we having the penalties? And then let's fix

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Speaker 2: that and don't point to the officials and don't point

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Speaker 2: here or there, take responsibility for it. End quote. Then

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Speaker 2: he goes on to talk about the fundamentals and little

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Speaker 2: things that everyone can do to do your job. The

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Speaker 2: author of that quote in the last forty eight hours

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Speaker 2: here in week twelve, Andy Reid of the Kansas City Chiefs,

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Speaker 2: who are now zero to five in one score games

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Speaker 2: and have been wait for it, beating themselves two more words,

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Speaker 2: self inflicted. So the little things become big things. In

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Speaker 2: the NFL, Cardinals are a prime example. But if you

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Speaker 2: look at a lot of teams that are on the

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Speaker 2: outside of the playoff picture looking in guess what they're

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Speaker 2: there's a good chance they're suffering from the same afflict

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Speaker 2: now what Darren's suffering from. I mean, you can't solve

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Speaker 2: it necessarily with coffee, but you know there is a

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Speaker 2: remedy if you're a head coach.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting as you were reading that quote, I hadn't

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Speaker 3: heard that or seen that online. I'm thinking, it feels

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Speaker 3: like I shouldn't say Jonathan Cannon, but it does. That

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Speaker 3: what he's setting me up for. But that's what we've

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Speaker 3: heard from not just the Cardinals head coach, but players

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Speaker 3: as well. Jacoby Bursett was talking about that post game

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Speaker 3: of the details, and I asked him, or are those

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Speaker 3: that are just showing up in the game. And he said,

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Speaker 3: But when you talk about details, I mean seventeen penalties

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Speaker 3: committed by the Cardinals. That is just it's not acceptable.

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Speaker 3: It's not a trait that we have seen under a

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Speaker 3: Gandon team. It's not something we've seen from this team

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Speaker 3: this year. Especially those pre snap penalties. Those are what

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Speaker 3: the coaching staff considers non negotiables. Now, a penalty during

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Speaker 3: a play is not something you want, but the team

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Speaker 3: prepares for those, right, do you study the officiating crew

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Speaker 3: and what they might call. But to have pre snat

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Speaker 3: as the Cardinals did, it's tough when you are the

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Speaker 3: one digging yourself.

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Speaker 2: In a hole.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to some specific plays, but when you've got

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Speaker 3: Bam Knight with a sixty yard touchdown run and it's

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Speaker 3: called back for holding and then the quarterback throws an

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Speaker 3: getting in your own way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there were twelve in offense. There were then what

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Speaker 2: three defense too on special teams, but you also had

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Speaker 2: the pre snap the illegal formations, you had encroachment, you

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Speaker 2: had illegal you know, shifts, illegal, two false starts. In fact,

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Speaker 2: if speaking of quotes, here's Drew petsing it can't happen.

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Speaker 2: Lack of detail, lack of focus. To me, ultimately, that

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Speaker 2: in the meeting, Continue to harp on it. Got to

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Speaker 2: get out of the huddle, got to get on it.

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Speaker 2: Pre snap penalties can't happen. That's your offensive coordinator. And

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Speaker 2: just to your point, Danny, it's not just jg it's

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Speaker 2: Nick Rowlis. It goes into focus in carrying out your assignment,

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Speaker 2: and then two more questions into his press conference this week, Mentally,

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Speaker 2: we got to be on our assignments. So I think

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Speaker 2: it's pretty clear. A lot of it is the focus,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of is what the coaches are harping

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Speaker 2: think this makes it difficult to diagnose a little bit

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Speaker 2: is because it is different guys at different times taking

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Speaker 5: And that's frequently what it is whenever you're talking about mistakes.

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Speaker 5: I mean, when you talk about it, it's different guys

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Speaker 4: We hear about that during the year.

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Speaker 5: When the offense isn't clicking, it's it's one guy blocking here,

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Speaker 5: it's one guy running his route there.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to say.

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Speaker 5: I mean, obviously the penalties have not been great all season,

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Speaker 5: but I mean, seventeen's an outlier, and.

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Speaker 2: They had seven in the two games prior combined.

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Speaker 5: It's tough for me in the moment, it's terrible. Big picture,

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Speaker 5: it's tough for me to get super worked up. They

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Speaker 5: absolutely committed some penalties. They absolutely did. There was other

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Speaker 5: ones where it's like, you know, Paris Johnson doing a

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Speaker 5: the guy falls down and then for some reason that's

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Speaker 5: a holding penalty because I guess the official thought he

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Speaker 5: threw him to the ground or whatever it is.

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Speaker 2: This A Q Shipley said on the broadcast, that's not

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so some of those things you kind of wonder about.

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Speaker 5: But at the same time, and this is why the

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Speaker 5: penalties kind of get to me, because I'm like, most

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Speaker 5: of the penalties are on offense. Well, defensively, you weren't

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Speaker 5: stopping the forty nine ers either from scoring points.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's too many points.

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Speaker 5: And so ultimately I just think I think it kind

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Speaker 5: of goes in that whole same vat of that they're

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Speaker 5: just not playing well enough right now, and you can

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Speaker 5: find multiple things that they need to get better to

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Speaker 2: And Jonathan Gannon, it's interesting, he said a couple of times,

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Speaker 2: you know, he doesn't consider penalties a winning stat, at

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Speaker 2: least not on par with like the turnover takeaway battle.

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Speaker 5: And what he means by that is he doesn't think

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Speaker 2: But then he did also admit when it's seventeen to one.

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Speaker 2: Of course, when it's that lopsided, yeah, say's definitely a

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Speaker 5: That's like saying time of possession isn't a winning stat

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Speaker 5: unless it's forty to twenty one game, and then you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 5: that probably cost us.

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Speaker 3: There are certain things that coaching staff can do during

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Speaker 3: when the team falls seven to nothing sixteen seconds into

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Speaker 3: forty nine ers offensively. Mentally, there's gonna be emotion. You're

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Speaker 3: gonna want to really step up your play right because

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Speaker 3: That extra oof of wanting to play well was not

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Speaker 3: met with still having the good technique, was not still

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Speaker 3: having that mental fortitude of yes, I want to take

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Speaker 3: discipline football. That's where things got lopsided. You saw that

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Speaker 3: on special teams as well. That hasn't been an issue

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Speaker 3: all year for this special team's unit and to have

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Speaker 3: multiple penalties by that group is not something we've seen.

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Speaker 3: It's just it. It was back to back weeks of

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Speaker 3: dig themselves out of a hole. You can't let a

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Speaker 2: It's fun when you say that. I think, well, the

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Speaker 2: Cardinals beat the Cardinals in a lot of.

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Speaker 3: Ways back both those games.

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Speaker 2: Just as true, like, for example, on the special teams. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: special teams goes a long way in field position, and

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Speaker 2: the Niners average starting field position was the forty seven

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Speaker 2: touchdown drives that started in Cardinals territory. So it's tough.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's there's defense has been been put in

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Speaker 2: a couple of tough spots here, obviously the last couple

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Speaker 2: we calculated in the last three games, thirty five points

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Speaker 2: been put on the scoreboard. That has had nothing to

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Speaker 2: and there was another play somewhere attributed to special teams.

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Speaker 2: So that can be it can be deflating. I talked

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Speaker 2: to Rob Frederickson about this on The Red Sea Reporter,

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Speaker 2: a guy who spent a decade on that side of

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Speaker 2: the ball. You know, because the defense is judged first

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Speaker 2: and foremost on a scoring defense, and when there are

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Speaker 2: points that get put on your ledger that you had

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Speaker 2: nothing to do with, you know that that can be

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Speaker 2: a little vaccine.

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Speaker 5: Yes, although I find it interesting that after the game,

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Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon essentially we started by saying, I'm a defensive

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Speaker 5: head coach, so that's kind of where my strength is

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Speaker 5: supposed to be. And I'm paraphrasing, but he essentially said,

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Speaker 5: doesn't matter where the ball is, you got to find

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Speaker 5: a way to mitigate points and or get stops.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's talking to the defense, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, definitely, Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 4: As we record this, you never know how to right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this Jacksonville defense will be a lot closer to

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Speaker 5: Who when he missed the last time he missed a game,

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Speaker 4: Yes, against Packers.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and it was Kuay Walker who came off the

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Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens against Jacksonville. But we did

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Speaker 3: Props to you, Paul, because first of all, doing those

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Speaker 2: His answers are a lot better than our questions. But

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Speaker 3: I appreciated the honesty from him though of saying, look,

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Speaker 3: And we still got to see the Michael Wilson we

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Speaker 5: I got a couple things that pop into my mind.

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Speaker 5: But he absolutely felt like he can do stuff like this.

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Speaker 5: they're playing a little bit differently. You mentioned their pass

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Speaker 3: It wasn't just I don't want to say quote unquote

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Speaker 3: They were acrobatic catches. He was turning his head, he

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Speaker 5: Regardless of future targets, regardless of fifteen. I think, Michael Wilson,

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Speaker 3: Don't look at me because I did not say draft

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Speaker 4: This offsome.

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Speaker 5: I believe there was some conversation about signing a number

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Speaker 2: You know what. I'd love to argue that, but you know,

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Speaker 4: Is back there, they're probably going to go back to

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Speaker 4: what they had.

437
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Speaker 5: But I was asking him the last time he was

438
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Speaker 5: wide receiver one, and he did it a couple times

439
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Speaker 5: at the end of his rookie season. The last game

440
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Speaker 5: of the twenty twenty three season against Seattle. You may

441
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 5: know that as the game Matt Prater missed the last

442
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Speaker 5: second field goal to show up the idea that they

443
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Speaker 5: could even draft Marvin Harrison. Right, Michael Wilson was the

444
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 5: number one receiver that game. Six targets, six catches, ninety

445
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Speaker 5: five yards.

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Speaker 4: So he's done. He's done something. I mean, not like

447
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 4: he did Sunday, but he's done it before.

448
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Speaker 2: But you know what, either you can make the contested catcher,

449
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 2: you can't. I'm not sure that's a learned behavior, sort

450
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Speaker 2: of like a quarterback in accuracy, very few quarterbacks get better.

451
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Speaker 4: I thought that with Josh Allen and I feel stupid here.

452
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and no, and he is the exception, and there's

453
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Speaker 2: no doubt. But how you could count on one hand

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Speaker 2: how many quarterbacks have made significant.

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Speaker 4: John Scouting Logan Thomas an.

456
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Speaker 2: Accuracy not necessary to name names here, oh, sorry, John

457
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Speaker 2: and Logan. So I mean when he that breakout game

458
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 2: he had his rookie year at the forty nine Ers,

459
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Speaker 2: his first month in the league. He made a lot

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Speaker 2: of contested catches in that game. So right there, you

461
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Speaker 2: kne okay. That's probably the toughest part of any adjustment

462
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Speaker 2: for any receiver going to the NFL. Everything else you

463
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Speaker 2: can sort of work on. All right, Speaking of whose

464
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Speaker 2: direction Danny want to get cultured? Here we go? Uh,

465
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Speaker 2: Danny will.

466
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Speaker 3: Segue to here getting cultured with Danny not just directed

467
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 3: at Paul?

468
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Speaker 2: Am I the default uncultured philistine around here?

469
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Speaker 4: Yes, he got me very excited.

470
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 3: Now I am on social media and consume more at

471
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 3: pop culture than both of you combined.

472
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 2: I think I'm being unfairly profiled. But go ahead, let's go.

473
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 3: So I might have to cruise through these a bit.

474
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 3: Normally it is requested that I have closer to two

475
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Speaker 3: or three bullet points, and I have four because Darren

476
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 3: cannot put me in a box. I am not someone

477
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 3: who is supposed to be set within boundaries. No, all right,

478
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 3: no huddle, daring it up alive, Paul, have you heard

479
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,719
Speaker 3: about the MLB betting scandal? Involving two Cleveland Guardians.

480
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 2: The first pitches of an inning.

481
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Emmanuel Classe and Luis Ortiz accused of rigging games

482
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 3: by the types and speeds of pitches for gamblers to profit,

483
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 3: starting back in twenty twenty three. So Clause supposedly one

484
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Speaker 3: was texting betters during the game and two his actions

485
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 3: benefitted the better seven hundred thousand dollars or teases with

486
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 3: sixty thousand. He came in later, but Colasse's friends said

487
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 3: that the calls intercepted by the FBI were actually for

488
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: rooster fighting, not for k.

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Speaker 5: Oh oh, that's that's way better. Little Jerry Seinfeld, Can

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Speaker 5: I just.

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Speaker 2: All right, how many times does it happen where the

492
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: guy didn't bounce a fifty five footer that made it

493
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: so blatantly obvious that they started investigating the first pitch

494
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Speaker 2: of the inning. How many times have pitchers with precise

495
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: placement of baseballs in control been able to throw a

496
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Speaker 2: ball and or a strike And we have no idea

497
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Speaker 2: how prevalent has it been.

498
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Speaker 5: This is true, But this is where the human element

499
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Speaker 5: comes in, Paul, because if you try and put it

500
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Speaker 5: just outside and these umpires say, wring them.

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Speaker 4: Up, then you just screw the whole thing. And we've

502
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Speaker 4: seen umpires make bad calls.

503
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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, there's nothing more factual. You'll say all podcasts true.

504
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 3: Leave it to Cleveland. Okay, game Stop is having a

505
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 3: trade any day on December sixth. Here's how it works.

506
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 3: For one day, you can show up with an unusual

507
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 3: item instead of a typical game or console or gaming accessory,

508
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 3: and you can trade it in. Now, there are some

509
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 3: restrictions on when you can or cannot trade in.

510
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: Well, wait a minute, can I trade in like a

511
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 2: old muffler or something, some car parts? Can I empty

512
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: my garage? Can I show up?

513
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 4: Well?

514
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 3: Listen, these are some of the things that are excluded.

515
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: Hazardous waste, chemicals and liquids, lithium ion batteries, or any

516
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 3: item that contains one. Weapons and AMMO are not allowed.

517
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 3: Dead or live animals are prohibited, although taxidermy is permitted.

518
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 3: So my stuff, daughter, absolutely, it's it's all fair game. Cheeto, Well,

519
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Speaker 3: that would be in a live ant work.

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00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, we don't know what's happened past week.

521
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, post check on Cheetoh. Next on the list, have

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Speaker 3: either of you seen the Apple iPhone pocket that was

523
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Speaker 3: recently released.

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Speaker 2: I think I've heard of it. I've seen it.

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Speaker 4: Oh boy, Paul pocket for your iPhone.

526
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 3: Really gonna grind your gears. The Paul doesn't have an iPhone,

527
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 3: so maybe this doesn't relate to me.

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Speaker 4: Oh also good.

529
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 3: It is a piece of cloth that has a large

530
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Speaker 3: hole to either sling over your arm like a purse

531
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 3: or ore your shoulder that just holds your phone, but

532
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 3: it's designed to allow your iPhone to peek out at

533
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Speaker 3: the top so you can show it off to people.

534
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Speaker 2: I'm not dumb, path it's a marsupial.

535
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Speaker 3: The short version goes for one hundred and fifty dollars,

536
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Speaker 3: the long version goes for two hundred and thirty and

537
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Speaker 3: they are sold out.

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Speaker 2: Of course they are.

539
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 3: That is consumerism at its finest, because.

540
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: You Apple consumers. You're not consumers, you're cultists. I mean

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Speaker 2: they can just go ahead and sell you anything. At

542
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Speaker 2: this point with the Apple.

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Speaker 3: Love, I wonder if the Android would fit. Okay, last

544
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Speaker 3: on the list. This is the most important news, So

545
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 3: everybody tune in. Vine is coming back, Thank the gods above.

546
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Speaker 3: Former Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey is re booting the beloved

547
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Speaker 3: app short videos only, and they will not allow AI.

548
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 4: Can't they just reboot Twitter? Can't Jack just reboot Twitter?

549
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 3: Well, technically Twitter doesn't exist.

550
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 4: It's X okay, so reboot it. For God's sake.

551
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 3: Get your priority strength.

552
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 2: You're going to really filter out the AI.

553
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 4: We're in deep trouble. Everybody.

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Speaker 3: Well, you've both been cultured. You're welcome. That's all I've got.

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00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go one.

556
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Speaker 5: Of our off season episodes. We can make half about AI.

557
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 2: You know what, my disdain for the Apple product line

558
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,959
Speaker 2: is a kin to Jacoby Brissette when someone asked him

559
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Speaker 2: about forty seven completions and four hundred passing yards in

560
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 2: the context.

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Speaker 5: I will promise you I could not care less. It's right,

562
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 5: he promises that he couldn't care less. It's even more

563
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 5: than not caring less.

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Speaker 2: I'd throw for three yards in a win, I believe.

565
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 2: Was the follow up quote.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be tough to do that.

567
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be on this.

568
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 4: Yeah you want a balanced offense.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, someday, you know, in his rocking chair

570
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: with grand kids around him, he'll tell the story of

571
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: forty seven completions in one game. But yeah, when you're

572
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 2: on the losing end of a lopsided final score doesn't

573
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Speaker 2: feel so good.

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Speaker 5: I like Jacoby Brissett a tremendous amount. I think he's

575
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Speaker 5: a great guy. I like talking to him in press conferences, though,

576
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 5: like is he gonna tell his grandchildren the story? In

577
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 5: the same way he kind of answers questions in press

578
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 5: conferences where every single answer starts.

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Speaker 2: With Darren look the whole Like the players say, he

580
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 2: totally threw them, didn't. I know, the players say he

581
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: has that unk vibe about him. Oh yeah, you know which,

582
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Speaker 2: But he's only thirty two. That's the problem, which, in

583
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Speaker 2: the context of NFL quarterbacks is not ancient.

584
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 5: No, and it's it's not even super old for this

585
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 5: team for goodness sake, when you've got Klais Campbell walking around.

586
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 5: But he does have that vibe. Now I can't I

587
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 5: can't go there. I'm feeling like you can't feel like.

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00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 4: You can go there, go there. I mean he's a youngster.

589
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank goodness.

590
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 4: I mean you're a youngster.

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00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: To Danny, I think it was Michael Wilson was big

592
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Speaker 2: red rage recently and we said, now, wait a minute,

593
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Speaker 2: if and what was Michael Wilson, Because he was the

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Speaker 2: one who said that Jacoby Brissett had an on five.

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Speaker 2: I said, what was that make? Thirty nine year old

596
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: Clais Campbell? He said unk plus that was his response,

597
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 2: or was Cody Simon? Okay, there we go, So that's good.

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Speaker 2: That's so I see. I have AI in my ear

599
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Speaker 2: in the form of Jim MoMA Hunter, who, by the way,

600
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: had his five hundredth game broadcast. How about that? Like

601
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: the lamp for that.

602
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 5: I don't want to take away from Omo, but I

603
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Speaker 5: had passed five hundred at some point.

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Speaker 4: I don't remember all of celebrations.

605
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Speaker 3: Shoot, congrats to Darren, however, many games he's worked.

606
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Speaker 2: But here's here's the difference. Darren, Okay, he's dealing with

607
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: needy broadcasters, high maintenance guys like I'm wolfully for twenty

608
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: years and so really you got to grade that on

609
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: dog years. So he's over about seven eight hundred broadcasts.

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00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: Just based on that sliding scale.

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Speaker 5: I want to know how many times Omo in his

612
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 5: working life has gone to bed after three am.

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Speaker 2: That's right for his job.

614
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know there's been plenty of times he's done

615
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 5: it for personal reasons, but.

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Speaker 2: The response from the booth is hundreds. So something like

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Speaker 2: that yes, all right, So Jacoby Brissett, what can what

618
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Speaker 2: else can the man do at this point anything.

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Speaker 3: Protect the football better. The two interceptions against the forty

620
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Speaker 3: nine ers, they were plays that not fair say they'd

621
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Speaker 3: broken down, but he was saying the ball for quite

622
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Speaker 3: a bit and he was scrambling. The one right on

623
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Speaker 3: the sideline where he went for Elijah Higgins miscommunication of

624
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Speaker 3: maybe what he wanted Higgins to do there who stopped

625
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Speaker 3: and sat on the sideline and he was jumped by

626
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Speaker 3: a dB. And then that one for a crazy return

627
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Speaker 3: wasn't until Michael Carter thankfully got the return man to

628
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Speaker 3: the ground.

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Speaker 2: There's no worse feeling than a talented dB on a

630
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Speaker 2: return and a bunch of offensive linemen trying to track

631
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Speaker 2: him down in the open field. Yeah, no point on.

632
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 3: And then the second one, which the question has been

633
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Speaker 3: asked to multiple players, to the head coach, to the

634
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Speaker 3: OC about whether or not it was the correct route

635
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 3: or they were running the same route of you, Greg

636
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 3: Dortch and Xavier Weaver running routes really close to each other,

637
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: and we're set through the ball behind Dortch and there

638
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 3: were two or three defenders right there. Again, seems like

639
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 3: that was miscommunication or or maybe the right call, but

640
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 3: a bad throw. He has to be better protecting the ball,

641
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 3: and he has been throughout his career. Interceptions are not

642
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 3: something that have plagued him, so to have too in

643
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Speaker 3: a game, to have a couple of interceptions the last

644
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 3: couple of games, needs to be smarter about where and

645
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 3: when he's getting rid of the ball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, until Seattle, he had the NFL's lowest career interception rate,

647
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: just a notch below Aaron Rodgers. I'm guessing he's a

648
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: notch above Aaron Rodgers after the last two games. We'll see.

649
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: But I mean the NFL research stat is first player

650
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: ever to attempt fifty plus passes in a game with

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Speaker 2: an eight eighty plus completion percentage. So that's crazy. Where

652
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: you throw more than fifty passes but you're completing it

653
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: better than eighty percent completion rate. That's something Drew Petsing cited.

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Speaker 2: So now let's see if you get rid of the

655
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: illegal motions and the illegal shifts and the fall starts

656
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: six holding penalties, it's amazing. Now when you get behind

657
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: the chains, you get behind on the scoreboard. Oh yeah,

658
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: it's amazing. How that happens.

659
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Speaker 5: Look, you mentioned earlier about how they didn't run the

660
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 5: ball very well or didn't run it very often, and

661
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 5: it's not untrue. But at the same time, when you're

662
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 5: gaining five hundred yards of offense or whatever they were

663
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 5: close to getting forty eight, most of it was through

664
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Speaker 5: the air and the other team can't pass rush.

665
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Speaker 4: Why not?

666
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but again, you know.

667
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 4: That's Larry Fitzgerald Anquan Bolden days.

668
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 2: But again, and we talked about this after the game

669
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Speaker 2: a little bit. You're going against a forty nine ers

670
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Speaker 2: team that you knew was going to be on the detail.

671
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: John and Agann has said it in his TV show,

672
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: what do you think of when you think of Kyle

673
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: Shanahan the details? Whatever quarterbacks in there carries out every playfake.

674
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't matter. You don't recognize the names

675
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: in the back of the jerseys, doesn't matter. They're dialed in,

676
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: they're focused, they're well schooled in the system. So when

677
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: you go in and you might have more talent on

678
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: the field than to depleted forty nine ers, even considering

679
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: your significant amount of injuries, but if you're not beating

680
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: them in terms of the mistake department, you're apt to

681
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: lose and lose badly because Shanahan and forty nine er

682
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 2: teams over the years, they will not beat themselves. And

683
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: so that's what you're getting in this division right now.

684
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: Sean McVay, you still have to see him twice. It's

685
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: amazing here, Nick Rolis say, not only is Liam Cohen

686
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: a direct disciple of Sean McVay in that system which

687
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: he has tweaked, and he's added some unique features to

688
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: it in his own style. Every single opponent the Cardinals

689
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 2: play the rest of the season has an offense or

690
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: a scheme you can directly connect Sean McVay. That's influential.

691
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: He has been. So you hope for the Cardinals, for

692
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: the sake of the Cardinals defense, that playing McVeigh twice

693
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 2: a year every year helps you out at least in

694
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 2: terms of fitting some of these offenses and schemes you're

695
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: gonna see over the next two months.

696
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,479
Speaker 3: Cardinals haven't even faced McVeigh yet this year.

697
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, so you're trying to say that they're

698
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 5: gonna get like some practice against McVay before they get McVeigh.

699
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: They will, absolutely, yes, And in fact, John and again

700
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: it says that, yeah, so I mean, I figure that's

701
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: a benefit. You know, you're not gonna now Liam Collen

702
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: and what is he doing? You know, I mean supposedly

703
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 2: all these coaches some point earlier in their week will

704
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: watch the Rams game film to start. That's that's how

705
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: well regarded McVeigh is and what he's doing, what he's innovating,

706
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 2: and what the rest of the league is adapting and

707
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 2: adopting from his scheme. So we'll see now in terms

708
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 2: of Trevor Lawrence in that run game that Jacksonville has,

709
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: you know, they just ran it is rushed for four

710
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: touchdowns in nearly two hundred yards, and they have one

711
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: two punch of running back. They have a fourth round

712
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 2: rookie to go along with Travis Etn. They have a

713
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 2: really big offensive line that's playing really well according to

714
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: a Q. Shipley, and so it's gonna you know, and

715
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: they have now they added Jacoby Myers at the trade

716
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: deadline to go along with Brian Thomas Junior, who was

717
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 2: a pro bowler his rookie year, but he's fallen off

718
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: here in his second year. He was nineteenth overall, I

719
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 2: believe after you had Marvin and Malik Neighbors in Roman

720
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 2: doonsay and then Lad McConkie was after Brian Thomas junior.

721
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 2: But so you're going to see you're gonna see a

722
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: Jacksonville team that, once again right now, if the season

723
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: ended today, would be in the postseason.

724
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 3: Jacksonville did not put once Sunday against the Chargers. So

725
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 3: that's a team that's rolling. Quarterback Trevor Lawrence is he's

726
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 3: a good quarterback, He's just someone who has been inconsistent.

727
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 3: He's thrown a lot of interceptions, same way he has touchdowns.

728
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 3: But this is this is a Jags offense that is

729
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: well balanced, and so it's going to be a tough

730
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 3: challenge for Cardinals defense that's coming off two really tough

731
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 3: weeks against two really good opponents. This is a prime

732
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: opportunity though for me to remind both of you that

733
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: in the summer when we did our early predictions, Darren

734
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: predicted the Cardinals would go three and zero out of

735
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 3: the by so that's wrong. Paul predicted that the Bucks

736
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 3: Cardinals game would get flexed to primetime, which is technically

737
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 3: still a possibility, but very very slim at this point

738
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 3: because your reasoning was Baker Mayfield against Kyler Murray and

739
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 3: Murray will still be on IR so that's wrong.

740
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: You're right. I was, you know, just disqualified for me.

741
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 2: Now now you can't count that now.

742
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 3: I predicted that the rookie Travis Hunter would not be

743
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: a two way player by the time they came to Arizona.

744
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 3: Don't shake your head, Darren, because he's on IR so

745
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 3: he technically will not be a two way player. So

746
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 3: I'm giving myself the crown.

747
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 4: On that one. Such.

748
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I will, I'll give you. I'll give you.

749
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: I'm looking for the quote from here.

750
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 4: It is.

751
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: It's when they drafted Travis Hunter. It was the next day,

752
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 2: Liam calling the brand new head coach, said, quote, we

753
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: wanted to look like what it looked like. It't CEU

754
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 2: talking about Travis Hunter. That would be pretty good for us.

755
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 2: We know that he's going to be able to do both.

756
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 2: We feel that in our bones. Was a direct quote.

757
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: What do you think they're feeling in their bones right now?

758
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 5: I think they're feeling like they got a chance at

759
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 5: the playoffs. I don't I mean, could that turn out

760
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 5: to be no bueno? And when it's all said and

761
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 5: done with how high they took Travis Hunter? Maybe, but

762
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 5: you know on this podcast, Paul, we only talk about

763
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 5: who's playing, not who's hurt. So okay, I'm fascinated when

764
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 5: we talk about the Jaguars. I'm fascinated to see, like

765
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 5: what it looks like. We don't see the Jaguars here

766
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 5: too often. I mean, what is it? It's this is

767
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 5: only they came out.

768
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: Time we saw him was twenty one, but that was

769
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: at jackson No.

770
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 5: Last time I saw him here was seventeen. That was

771
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 5: Kalays Campbell's first game back YEP, in twenty seventeen. Cardinals

772
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 5: won that game with Blain Gabbert. I think the last

773
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 5: time they were in Arizona before twenty seventeen, and I

774
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 5: know Omo will correct me, because he always will.

775
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 4: I think that was the five game.

776
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 5: And as we were talking about earlier today in Cwumbolden,

777
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 5: getting a couple of unsportsmanlike conduct penalties for jawing with

778
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 5: a Jacksonville player and having to take a add out

779
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 5: in the Arizona Republic back then to apologize to the fans.

780
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 2: And the only thing better than that was the fact

781
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 2: he was miked up, and so we actually got audio

782
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 2: of just how intense. We'll leave it there, how intense

783
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 2: in Cwambold.

784
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 5: But this is only the third time Jacksonville has actually

785
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 5: visited here since two thousand and five.

786
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: And you know who will see this week, former Cardinal

787
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: Dennis Gardek.

788
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, the barbarian. I forgot about it, Decky.

789
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 5: One more Jacksonville story for me. My first season covering

790
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 5: this team full time, I was at the newspaper two thousand.

791
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 5: Vince Tobin got fired during the year. Dave McGinnis took

792
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 5: over at the end of the year. Their last road

793
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 5: trip was to Jacksonville, and the Jaguars were still pretty

794
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 5: good in those days with Mark Brunel. They had started terrible,

795
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 5: but they finished really hot. Didn't make the playoffs, but

796
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 5: absolutely boat race the Cardinals in Jacksonville. I think they

797
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 5: had the ball nine possessions. They scored eight possessions. In

798
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 5: the last one they didn't score because they were trying

799
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 5: to run out the clock. They went fifty some yards

800
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 5: and burned the last nine minutes of the game and

801
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 5: they ended up kneeling it out.

802
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 4: That was the for me.

803
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 5: The infamous Pat Tillman angry in the locker room, telling

804
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 5: me and Kent Summers, all anybody around here wants to

805
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 5: bitch about the pain.

806
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 4: We have to show them the baby. I'll never forget that.

807
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: So and on that note, more Jacksonville trivia. It's time

808
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: for wise Guy.

809
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 1: It's time for the wise Guy. The world's fastest Growing

810
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: Cardinals quiz show. The stakes are low, the winner gets

811
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. Here's your hostess with a hostess.

812
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 3: Danny sir, Hey, this should be a fun one.

813
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 4: Always is. I'm gonna go with number two. Danny.

814
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 3: Oh, ready, off the bat, here we go. At his

815
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: introductory press conference, new Jaguars head coach Liam Collin famously shouted,

816
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: du vall. That was pretty good.

817
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's so going in the open.

818
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 3: Eh, that was a pretty good comparison there. What does

819
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 3: duvall refer to? And why is it a rallying cry

820
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 3: for players, coaches and fans?

821
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 5: Aren't they aren't the Jaguars in Duval County? And so yeah, yes,

822
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 5: they're hyping up the area.

823
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 3: Yes, a lot of pride, just.

824
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 4: Like we always say, Mara copa. Okay, we don't do that.

825
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: I'm waiting for the supporting actor question from a sitcom

826
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 2: that was set in Jacksonville in the eighties. Get number three.

827
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 4: If this is a sitcom question. I will love everything.

828
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 3: I can't ruin it for you. Just tune in for

829
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 3: a number.

830
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: You know what Number three is usually the most difficult.

831
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 3: No, I thought you were going to ask to change. Nope,

832
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: here we go. This former NFL defensive end began his

833
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 3: career with the Eagles and later signed with the Cardinals

834
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 3: during the Buddy Ryan era. Over two why are you laughing? Okay, okay,

835
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 3: here we go.

836
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 4: Okay.

837
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 3: Over two seasons in Arizona, he recorded seventeen sacks in

838
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 3: a pick sex. He then joined the Jaguars in nineteen

839
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 3: ninety six, adding sixteen more sacks over two seasons in Jacksonville.

840
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 2: Who is he Eagles to Cardinals to Jacksonville? Yes, Seth Joiner.

841
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 3: Incorrect.

842
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 4: Not Clyde Simmons.

843
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 3: Oh, it sure would be. Darren career one hundred and

844
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 3: twenty one and a half sacks.

845
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 4: How many sacks did you have with the Cardinals?

846
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 3: Seventeen?

847
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 4: I did not know he was that effective? Here, okay,

848
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 4: not bad.

849
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 2: Clyde Simmons had seventeen sacks in those two years.

850
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 4: By the way, here's here's my Clyde Simmons. Quick.

851
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 5: Clyde Simmons store, I was working for the paper and

852
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 5: flag Staff. They would Cardinals would come up there for

853
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 5: training camp. So I'm twenty three years old, whatever it was,

854
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 5: I wanted to do the story of Clyde Simmons and

855
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 5: Seth Joyner. Seth ended up sitting with me and another

856
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 5: reporter and having like a twenty five minute interview. So

857
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 5: it was really awesome. So then I wanted to go

858
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 5: get something from Clyde Simmons. He wouldn't talk to me,

859
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 5: and as a twenty three year old reporter, I didn't

860
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 5: know what to do. I think he gave me one

861
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 5: like half sentence and he's like, yeah, that's all and

862
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 5: he walked away from Okay.

863
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: So, as a considerably older reporter than twenty three, what

864
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 2: would you do? Now?

865
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 5: Come on, Clyde, work with me. I'm trying to do

866
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 5: a story here. I'm too old for this. Can you

867
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 5: beat that?

868
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

869
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 3: Back to wise Guy Darren, question one or four one?

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Speaker 4: Please.

871
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 3: This popular new metal band formed in Jacksonville and broke

872
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 3: out in nineteen ninety nine with their album Significant Other

873
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 3: No I Know This. The album reached number one on

874
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 3: the Trim To You Paul, The album reached number one

875
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 3: on the Billboard two hundred and included singles such as

876
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 3: NOOKI Break Stuff and Together Now and Rearranged. You can

877
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: tell I did not write this question. Their frontman is

878
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 3: known for frequently.

879
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 4: Enough. That's enough. I didn't hear that last part, Danny,

880
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 4: could you please.

881
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 3: Report front man is known for frequently wearing a red

882
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 3: New York Yankees cap.

883
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, limp biscuit, it's correct.

884
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: Did you know it before the last red hat?

885
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 5: I was gonna guess limp biscuit after the first one. I,

886
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 5: in fact, honestly, I was about to say limp biscuit,

887
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 5: and then when she said the red cap, I'm like,

888
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 5: I don't think that's it. I don't ever recall seeing

889
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 5: him in a red hat.

890
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 2: It's holy war until the very end.

891
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 4: I never pay attention to those.

892
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 3: Let's do this last question for fun, because we don't

893
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 3: play drags often. Here we go Paul. In twenty thirteen,

894
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 3: this wide receiver appeared in three games for the Cardinals

895
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 3: and seven for the Jags. One of his three receptions

896
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 3: with Arizona came on the first career pass thrown by

897
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 3: cornerback Patrick Peterson. Who was this receiver.

898
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I totally zoned out. I didn't

899
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: even the first half of the question. No, I totally

900
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: zoned out. I didn't even hear the question with me here,

901
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out where we're going next.

902
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 3: Let's go eye contact, let me make I need to

903
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: make sure you're in this. You're refusing to look at.

904
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: Me, Go ahead.

905
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 3: Sure. In twenty thirteen, this wide receiver appeared in three

906
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 3: games for the Cardinals and seven for the Jags. One

907
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 3: of his three receptions with Arizona came on the first

908
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 3: career pass thrown by cornerback Patrick Peterson. Who is this receiver.

909
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: Ba's first year Uh, oh my god, Wes Borland. He's

910
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: the guitarist for Olympiscus Taylor.

911
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 3: You know the first name, Carrie Taylor, Harry, that's.

912
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 4: Carry Taylor. I could see his face.

913
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a type. That's definitely a type.

914
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 3: That a tiebreaker. That was just the regular A.

915
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 4: Feeling good about myself everybody.

916
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 3: That's what's important here.

917
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 4: The coffee helped.

918
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 2: Okay, Can the energy? Can I have some of that? Uh?

919
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 2: You know that sound a lot like Costanzo, which I

920
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: think I need to do on my picks because, uh,

921
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: the well, the first thing I need to do is Yeah,

922
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: Ago the opposite b spend more than thirty seconds on

923
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 2: my picks because I brought up the rear again. And uh,

924
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: let's see, I have a one game lead now, and Danny,

925
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: after I went five hundred, I'm surprised I even went

926
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 2: five hundred. It definitely felt worse than that. And the

927
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: two of you went nine and five in week eleven.

928
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: So I've got one.

929
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 4: Hundred wins now, everybody one hundred and fifty three.

930
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 3: To freaking do? Darren? Can the listeners hear that laugh?

931
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 3: Boma in the glass? Sup?

932
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 5: All they care about is getting clips for Sundays. That's

933
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 5: all they care about.

934
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: So I think my plan now is to uh in

935
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 2: many areas of life, most in particular this podcast, is

936
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: to finish strong. Like b Joe Jelai. There's my.

937
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 4: B j O Jali who got a sackle that will

938
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 4: never count? Why not?

939
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 2: Why do? It's a play, it's an offensive play? Why

940
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: does it? Why does somebody get Mike Hellman here? Why

941
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 2: does that not stinking count in the box score?

942
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 5: Well, I mean it doesn't count because them's the rules.

943
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 5: I mean, just like just like Jacoby Brissett's forty seven

944
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 5: completions as an NFL record, even though by himself. Even

945
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 5: though Ben Roethlisberger did in a game too, but Ben's

946
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 5: came in a playoff game, and they're separate, just like

947
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 5: I'm sure bj Jali might be among the league leaders

948
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 5: in two point conversion sacks.

949
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 3: Now, but we'll never know.

950
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, but he isn't because it's not a stat.

951
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 2: It doesn't count.

952
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 5: So, Paul, they don't count the stats in the in

953
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 5: the NBA Cup games either a Cup.

954
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: Come on, there's no way.

955
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 4: I know you're a big fan NBA Cup.

956
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 2: I saw I.

957
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 4: Think commercials they did care a lot about that.

958
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 2: I know. I saw the promo and they're trying to

959
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: hype up the NBA Cup. And you know what, I

960
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: laughed harder than I'm laughing now when I saw the

961
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: promo hype up just how much it supposedly matters.

962
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 4: But when you watch those commercials and you're seeing like

963
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 4: Trey Young and Carl Anthony Towns and like when they

964
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure they're paying him a substantial amount

965
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 4: of money to do it, but like, aren't part of

966
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 4: them thinking.

967
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: I just had an epiphany. You ready for this? Calvicy

968
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 2: Consulting the Polypigskin Division just to make money. Somebody, get

969
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: my guy Roger on the line. You want to make

970
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: the preseason, the preseason somewhat relevant, somewhat meaningful. The NFL

971
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 2: preseason will now present, wait for it, an August Cup.

972
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 2: There needs to be like the August Cup.

973
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 4: Oh, the Ravens will never lose then.

974
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 2: And and you know, just get a nice slick commercial

975
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: that they produce out on you know, Fifth Avenue in

976
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 2: New York, and they you know, get you know, just

977
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 2: hype it up. Jump in.

978
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 6: I don't usually jump on the air. But the Cardinals

979
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 6: and Chiefs, when the Cardinals were in Saint Louis, they

980
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 6: would play annually and they had a trophy. It was

981
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 6: called the Governor's Cup in the pre teams in Missouri

982
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 6: preseason game Cardinals Chiefs Governor's Cup. Yeah, there's photos of

983
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 6: people hoisting trophy.

984
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 5: Preseason was a lot different back then too, though guys

985
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 5: actually played.

986
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 2: Well, they had six preseason games. That's all I always

987
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: rip Wolf, I, well did you play when they had

988
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: six preseason goes? Oh, knock it off.

989
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 5: The times when I've talked to almost Dad John, who

990
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 5: was the forever trainer of this franchise about when they

991
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 5: would report for training camp right after fourth of July. O, jeez,

992
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 5: can you imagine?

993
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 4: Oh I can? I mean, and it is a nightmare.

994
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 6: Yes, to a day is one hundred and twenty men rosters?

995
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yeah, over one hundred degrees, over one

996
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: hundred guys on the roster. Yeah, the two a days,

997
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't that long ago where that's what

998
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: training camp was all about.

999
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 4: Well, it was two days.

1000
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 5: We got We're with somebody here that thinks flip phones

1001
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 5: flip phones are nostalgia.

1002
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 3: They are. I still had one, but I do find

1003
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 3: them nostalgic. My first phone was a flip phone. It

1004
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 3: didn't have an antenna, though, which made it really cool.

1005
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 5: Bjo Jali made a fantastic come back. He played twenty

1006
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 5: three snaps on defense, thirteen on special teams, and considering

1007
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 5: how long he was out, it was it was it

1008
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 5: was a nice comeback. And I'll be curious to see,

1009
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 5: quite frankly, how the playing time all fits when Baron

1010
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 5: Browning is back in the lineup.

1011
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 3: It had been so long since fans had seen Ojelari

1012
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 3: on the field that the last time they saw him

1013
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 3: he was wearing number eighteen, which is obviously worn out

1014
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,959
Speaker 3: by Harrison, and Ojelai is now number nine. He hadn't

1015
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 3: played a game since a twenty twenty three season finale.

1016
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: Okay, so dreaming is free. Best case scenario, Bgojalari is

1017
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: what sort of player? Give me a comp? Give me

1018
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: an NFL comp. Go in to your personnel bucket, go

1019
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: in and tell me. Okay, if everything works out this

1020
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: time next year, Big Jolari is akin.

1021
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 5: To Okay, this is a high bar. I'm saying dreaming

1022
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 5: is free.

1023
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 2: Here we go. John Abraham really wasn't John Abraham a

1024
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 2: much thicker, bigger dude different.

1025
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 5: I mean he might have been a little, but by

1026
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 5: the time he was here, I saw him as he

1027
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 5: was an outside pass rusher.

1028
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 4: I mean, who are you dreaming? I don't know.

1029
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 2: I'm racking my brain. We need to get like Dave

1030
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: Sears down here, is someone help? PJ is not a

1031
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 2: small man, no, no, man.

1032
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: I haven't obviously covered the team as long as you two.

1033
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 3: So my breadth of Cardinals pass rushers is much smaller.

1034
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 3: I think when you when you look at the skill

1035
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 3: set of he's tall, but he's leaner for a pass Rusher.

1036
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 3: We hear a lot of praise specifically for Ojalari's length

1037
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 3: and his bend. Those were a lot of things we

1038
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 3: heard praise about with Dennis Kardak. But when you're talking

1039
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 3: about dreaming is Free, when I started, you had Chandler Jones,

1040
00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 3: which allowed Marcus Golden to really rack up some good numbers. Opposite,

1041
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 3: because Jones required so much attention. Different body types for sure,

1042
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 3: between Golden and Jeli. But if you've got a josh

1043
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 3: one on one end, you're talking about dreaming is free,

1044
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 3: Havevo Jalari be that back end player who doesn't get

1045
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 3: as much attention from offenses because you're talking about well,

1046
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 3: you would requires so much.

1047
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 5: You're talking less about than comparable to the player as

1048
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 5: the player.

1049
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 4: And more about the reproduction. Yes, well, I just looked

1050
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 4: it up.

1051
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 5: John Abraham was six four to two sixty bjo Jali

1052
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 5: six two fifty, So yeah, I mean different size.

1053
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 2: So I just I went to AI. You looked it up.

1054
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 2: I went to AI and just said, give me an

1055
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 2: NFL player com for bjo Jelari. The first one it said,

1056
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 2: aziz o Jely.

1057
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, what is this an?

1058
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 3: We need to do? What Vine is doing, which is

1059
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 3: saying AI is not.

1060
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 2: Allowed on cardinals on a round the other two David

1061
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 2: Ajabo and Noah Spence, I think we can dream for.

1062
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 4: A minute there beyond that is being a little like

1063
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 4: dream beyond racial. Wasn't it like come on now?

1064
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 2: So look it's I'm I puse that as a genuine question.

1065
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 2: I obviously am without an answer. I should have been

1066
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 2: more prepared a lawyer, I should have been more prepared.

1067
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 4: For me always well answer to your question.

1068
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 2: But I do look at him like, okay, who or

1069
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: what can he be? We just haven't seen him in

1070
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: so long. Like you like to think, you like to

1071
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 2: think they're okay. You look at a player and you

1072
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 2: sort of have a sense of what he is or

1073
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 2: what he's going to be. But with bi Jo Jolari,

1074
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: I'm I don't know. I mean, is he a three

1075
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 2: down player? Is he more of a rotational pass rusher?

1076
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 2: I mean, is he a dude who you can really

1077
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: rely on? And when you go against a run first

1078
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 2: cramed vertical team is going to set a tough edge.

1079
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 5: I mean, let's face it, at this point, do you

1080
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 5: have you don't have three down edge?

1081
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 4: Guys?

1082
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 5: I mean Josh Sweat, you're paying him all that money,

1083
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 5: he's he only played twenty five snaps the other day.

1084
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 4: They they rotate.

1085
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 5: That was the question we kept asking all even before

1086
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 5: Josh Swett signed. We kept asking on here like if

1087
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 5: they ever get a big time pass us, sure, does

1088
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 5: that change how they do things? Are they going to

1089
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 5: keep the rotation? Well it's clear they kept the rotation

1090
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 5: all right.

1091
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 2: So speaking of one with this outside guys no one

1092
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 2: quite has sort of the body type. Is Dennis Gardek

1093
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 2: the barbarian? Are you guys gonna try and find him

1094
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 2: on the field before the game? Danny, you're down there

1095
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 2: before the game?

1096
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 3: I love to say hi. He makes me do the

1097
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 3: Strobe celebration again, which he's made do too many times

1098
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 3: on camera.

1099
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 4: That's excellent guy, Dennis Gardick.

1100
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean just all the community work

1101
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: he did. It's every time there was a community event

1102
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 2: for seven years, he was out there seemingly every time.

1103
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, if you're at the game and you have

1104
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 2: a chance to stand in applaud if gard Deck somehow

1105
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 2: gets his name called or whatever, uh yeah, we highly

1106
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:49,959
Speaker 2: recommend doing so. Very deserving. So other than that, guess

1107
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: what I'm gonna have to work on my own focus,

1108
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 2: uh for next week, especially in certain areas. Got to

1109
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: elevate my game. There's still seven weeks to go.

1110
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 4: Are we winning behavior today? Focus?

1111
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 2: That's it? Here we go?

1112
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 4: Can you display winning behavior?

1113
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 3: You have to consistently display winning behavior.

1114
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 2: That's winning behavior.

1115
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 3: You've got to define what winning behavior is and hold

1116
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 3: people to that standard.

1117
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 4: Yes, we can make it quick today.

1118
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 2: All right, who's gonna you know?

1119
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: This?

1120
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 2: First one?

1121
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 4: Here?

1122
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 2: The uh you know spitgate now with Jamar Chase and

1123
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey. My goodness, this has to end. This, this

1124
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 2: trend better end.

1125
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 5: How did he Why did he appeal after the video?

1126
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 5: If you see the spit you can't acquit.

1127
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 3: I think he has that written on his behavior for

1128
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 3: those who have Jamar Chase and fantasy football leagues.

1129
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: Chase, yeah, very costly? What over five hundred grand based

1130
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 2: in his salary?

1131
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 4: Right?

1132
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: So very costly? Okay, you're not I cann be able

1133
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 2: to pay that with pennies which have which are no

1134
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 2: longer minted.

1135
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 3: What happens if you pay for something in cash, which

1136
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 3: I guess doesn't really happen often anymore, and they owe

1137
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 3: you a couple of cents penny still exist?

1138
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, for now. Eventually, eventually, the supposedly eventually, The plan

1139
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 2: is that consumers lose again, as the retailer will just

1140
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 2: round up to the nearest.

1141
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 4: Or round down. Great, aren't Nichols next? Do you your nickel?

1142
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 4: Aren't you looking around the corner?

1143
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 2: If I remember the story, each penny costs four cents

1144
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 2: to manufacture. Each nickel costs fourteen cents to manufacture. So

1145
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 2: nickels are next.

1146
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 3: What about the sense of nostalgia of the penny pol

1147
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 3: nostalgia that's worth way more.

1148
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 4: Than threw it onto our flip phone.

1149
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: By the way, the power pool of incompetence YouTube TV

1150
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 2: and and well, Google and Disney have been removed for now,

1151
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 2: for now, after they resolve their characters.

1152
00:55:58,920 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 3: And they I haven't seen that.

1153
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 2: Yes, they resolve their thought. You said you're a YouTube

1154
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 2: TV subscriber.

1155
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 3: I am.

1156
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 2: You've been too busy to flip on the screen.

1157
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 3: I really haven't watched a lot of TV the last

1158
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 3: couple of days.

1159
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 2: You've been on Vine.

1160
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 3: It's not yet.

1161
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 2: All right, so Darren, this is not good for you.

1162
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: Sam Levitt leaving.

1163
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 5: Look, there's reports now that Sam Levitt is shopping his

1164
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 5: services and might enter the transfer portal. The Arizona State

1165
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 5: quarterback who's out for the season could have come back

1166
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,280
Speaker 5: next year. Whether it's the issue or somewhere else.

1167
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 4: I get it. It's just so.

1168
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 5: I mean, as it is, there's so much of college

1169
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 5: basketball that I've completely lost interest in because the rosters

1170
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 5: completely turn over from a year to year basis, and

1171
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 5: football to a certain extent, and as an issue fan

1172
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 5: and issue alumni, you know, you finally get somebody in

1173
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,439
Speaker 5: here that's pretty good and you but that's that's where

1174
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 5: we are.

1175
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 4: It's not I'm not even mad.

1176
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 3: I just disappointed.

1177
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 5: I don't even know if it's that. I don't know

1178
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 5: if I'm going to care as much. It'll be a

1179
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 5: year to year like I feel for Kenny Dellingham, who's

1180
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 5: trying to build something when the reality is it's almost

1181
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 5: impossible to build unless.

1182
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I saw the did you see the private

1183
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 4: equity stuff for the Big Ten?

1184
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 5: So the Big Ten is talking about not winning behavior

1185
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 5: in my opinion, by the way, bringing in private equity,

1186
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 5: and all the schools except for USC and Michigan are

1187
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 5: thinking about doing it. Well, I saw it today and

1188
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 5: I'm like, Okay, they're probably going to do it, except

1189
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 5: like three schools like Ohio State, High State, Michigan, and

1190
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 5: somebody else are getting like one hundred ninety million dollars.

1191
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 5: There's like three other schools getting like one hundred and

1192
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 5: thirty three million dollars, and then then all the rest

1193
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 5: of the schools get one hundred ten million. So like

1194
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 5: the conference is going to enter into this agreement, but

1195
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 5: you're automatically like sub subjugating these schools with way more

1196
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 5: like what's the point what are we doing here?

1197
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 2: Well, first off, get in line behind my alma mater,

1198
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 2: which the number one pick in this draft. The Heisman

1199
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 2: winner was our quarterback until last December when Fernando Mendoza

1200
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 2: transferred to Indiana. We lost our quarterback to Indiana footbal.

1201
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 4: He's talking about caliber, and.

1202
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 2: You know he was gone even before the bowl game.

1203
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 2: So get used to it. It's gonna get worse for you.

1204
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 2: By the way, when after the season, Kenny Dillingham and

1205
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: Sam Levitt will be poached. You watch it.

1206
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 4: It might happen. Yeah, I mean it might happen with

1207
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 4: Danny too.

1208
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 5: Because we have a certain coworker who has a certain

1209
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 5: high profile school that has an opening, and he insists

1210
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 5: that Eli is going to be their.

1211
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 3: Next head coach now, But then he can't end every

1212
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 3: interview with m I Z that would be awkward, not

1213
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 3: being at Missouri.

1214
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 2: What about being at the mall a store with a dog?

1215
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 5: I feel I put this on before I had a

1216
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 5: discussion with Danny, who's now beyond herself because she couldn't

1217
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 5: get a dog.

1218
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 3: You don't need to bring it up.

1219
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,919
Speaker 5: Okay, but I'm in Scottsdale Fashion Mall and I looked

1220
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 5: it up later and it is apparently it is dog friendly.

1221
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 5: But man, that I cannot.

1222
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 4: Stand describe the dog and the dog I saw.

1223
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 5: At least six In fact, one wasn't even on a leash.

1224
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 4: What what? Why do people need to take their effing

1225
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 4: dogs into the mall? But Darren for the home depot

1226
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 4: or whatever.

1227
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: But the dogs are so cute to the owner that they,

1228
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 2: my God, share the dog with the world because everyone

1229
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: shares their feelings about their dog. Yes, how can anyone

1230
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,919
Speaker 2: not love my dog the way I love my dog?

1231
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 4: So irritating to me? So yeah, I was I thought

1232
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 4: this world was culture.

1233
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 2: Well, but Darren, you're going to Fashion Square Mall, you

1234
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 2: know to be seen anyway, So what do you.

1235
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 3: Care about the I do agree that I think it

1236
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 3: has gone too far. You don't.

1237
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 4: They said it was going to go to the dogs.

1238
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 3: Anyway, that taking your dog everywhere has gone too far.

1239
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 3: There was a time when I was a server in college.

1240
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 3: The restaurant I worked at, I walked outside. They were

1241
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 3: sitting at table side. I walked out with waters and

1242
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 3: there was a stroller. I was expecting to see a

1243
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 3: human and I did not see a human in the stroller.

1244
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 3: And I remember thinking, what on earth, Okay, you need

1245
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 3: to roll your dog.

1246
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 5: In a stroller for a dog friendly patio at a restaurant.

1247
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 4: Totally get there. Sure, when I'm walking amongst.

1248
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 5: Mall stores the Gap or in Scottsdale Fashion like Gucci

1249
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 5: or whatever the heck.

1250
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 3: That were you and Gucci when you saw dog, I

1251
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 3: didn't go.

1252
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 4: I'll be honest.

1253
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 5: They're not in the stores, and I don't know why

1254
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 5: you would let a dog in the store. They're just

1255
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 5: walking around, Like, come.

1256
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 2: On, Darren's trying to shop for his Rolex at Scottsdale

1257
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 2: Fashion Square mall.

1258
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 3: And maybe bothered with you.

1259
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 2: He got this poodle, you know, getting in his ways.

1260
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 4: I would never we went there for dinner, we had

1261
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 4: to walk around. I realized that was tired. At six pm.

1262
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 4: It was really sad.

1263
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 2: So we had a driving rain to start today. I'm

1264
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 2: less than a quarter mile on my own neighborhood. I

1265
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 2: passed a young woman jogging in a driving pouring rain

1266
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 2: to her, and then a dog owner walking their dog

1267
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 2: in a driving pouring rain in the neighborhood. Okay, all right,

1268
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 2: these people are resolute. They're definitely tougher than I am.

1269
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 2: Mental toughness, mental acuity. I've a lot to work on

1270
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 2: for next week. Here, I got to script ready, and uh,

1271
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 2: you're how much of that was scripted today? Darren? That

1272
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 2: line admitted you had it on a prompter about now

1273
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 2: you know, the one about spit a quit you've been

1274
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 2: admitted down.

1275
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 5: I say, last night was close personal friends, and I

1276
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 5: decided how you needed to use it.

1277
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 2: All right, Johnny Cochrane, here we go. That'll do it

1278
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:33,840
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01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:34,880
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