1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from seven 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: pm to ten pm Eastern four to seven Pacific on 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Odd 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Couple at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple. 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 3: And Rob g Let's go Eagles. They lose first time. 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: They had won eighteen in a row, twenty one out 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: of twenty two, and they lose on Sunday. 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 4: Well, they won ten straight. Jalen Hurts had the eighteen 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 4: because remember he didn't finish that game. 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: That's right, Jalen. Jalen Hurts is different animal. 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 4: Yes, they lost on Sunday to the Denver Broncos, and 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 4: it was a big game because all last week and 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 4: he had the last couple of weeks. There's been conversation 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 4: about the passing offense. AJ Brown's not happy to mont 18 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 4: de Smith's not happy. So what the Eagles did on Sunday, 19 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 4: they say, hey, we are gonna feed are two big 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 4: wide receivers. 21 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: Nice good job. 22 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 4: Even though they came in ranked thirty first NFL in passing. 23 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 4: They attempted thirty eight passes on Sunday and ran the 24 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 4: ball just eleven times, And needless to say, it backfire 25 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 4: on because you mentioned their ten game win streak is 26 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 4: no more than Eagles try to flip the script on 27 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 4: their identity and it backfired in a big way. 28 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 5: You know, me and you talked about the Eagles rob 29 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 5: a couple of obviously a couple of times over the 30 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 5: last few years, and I can't make out what the 31 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 5: heck the Eagles are other than they're starting to be 32 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 5: a chink in the armor. 33 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: Something's going on with them. 34 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 5: And I think that last play that held Mary that 35 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 5: they could have caught Davonte Smith looked like he was 36 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 5: actually about to grab it, and AJ Brown said, it 37 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 5: starts to catching the ball. I'm gonna catch Davonte's neck. 38 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 5: It's just body slammed his old teammate to the ground. 39 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 5: And I think that play is more indigative of what 40 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 5: the Eagles are looking like right now internally and externally. 41 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 5: AJ Brown didn't have the wherewithal the sense of say, 42 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 5: Davonte Smith might come down with this, so they both 43 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 5: end up on the ground as a shot of them 44 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 5: just laying on each other at the end of that game. 45 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 5: Something is going on, Robinie. Does it makes sense considering 46 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 5: you know, they're the ragning champs, They've got time together, 47 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 5: same coach and I guess the new coach. They got 48 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 5: the same kind of core, so you would think they'd 49 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 5: be locked and loaded in as far as where they are. 50 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 5: And man, something is off and a couple of things 51 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 5: to note. Number one, the thing they've they've done nothing else. 52 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 5: They've run the ball, right, that's what they do. They 53 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 5: were second all last year averaging one hundred and so 54 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 5: they had an unbelievable running back. 55 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 3: What an unbelievable year, well as what I'm saying, one 56 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: hundred and seventy nine yards. 57 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: He's yeah, but the defenses are playing different Sakwan is 58 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 1: not going to get two thousand. 59 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: They don't need two thousands. 60 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 5: I'm saying more than thirty on six carries in the 61 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 5: second half verst Denver. If something is off right now 62 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 5: with the rushing attack, he's averaging three point one yards 63 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 5: of carry, which is the worst for the Eagles in 64 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 5: like thirty years. So something's going on with the running game, 65 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 5: which is fine. Okay, you say, well, like you said, 66 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 5: people are focusing it on the rushing now because that's 67 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 5: what we've done well. 68 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 3: So we're airing it out. 69 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 5: As Rob Jesus mentioned, their last in passing, they went 70 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 5: a half without a completed pass. They've got a couple 71 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 5: of hands with only seven yards one. 72 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: How many games have they won? 73 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 5: They're four and one right now, and they're a block 74 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 5: field goal. They don't make that from being worst record. 75 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 5: They just something. 76 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: We could sit here all day and talk about that 77 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: at all. All block field goals. 78 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: Somebody fumbles, somebody threw Oh if the charges, if the 79 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: Chargers didn't throw interception, they would be Washington. 80 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 3: They're throwing interception. The game don't play and the Eagles don't. 81 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: Look I'm not concerned at all because I remember last 82 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: year and we can find the tape. 83 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: Yes, you were going into the Super Bowl. Oh look 84 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: at Jalen Hurds. He don't look good. There's something wrong 85 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: with them. 86 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: I know you were hoping that, you know, so that 87 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: the Lions could beat them or something. So you were 88 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: kind of talking to it because you were talking down 89 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: about Jalen Hurts and how he was performing and he 90 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: was the weak link. And guess who was the Super 91 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: Bowl MVP. It was you thought was the weak lengk 92 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: let me. 93 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 5: Let's run a tape. Let's be clear what I said. 94 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 5: My concern with Jalen Hurts, and it still stands. My 95 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 5: concern was if he were in a shootout, could he 96 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 5: pull it off. Not that Jalen Hurts can't win a game. 97 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 5: You don't have to be in a shootout, But that 98 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 5: was my concern. If I have to say, Jalen Hurts, 99 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 5: go win it. Jalen Hurts has gotten the job done. 100 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 5: He's been, he's been, He's had a heck of a career. 101 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 5: I'm not even arguing that if I said to you right. 102 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,119 Speaker 1: Now, arguing wrong, if I said nothing is wrong, nothing 103 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: is wrong, nothing is wrong. 104 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 5: And can't run the balls. The teams go through this. 105 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 5: You said that about the Steelers. 106 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 3: The Steelers can't run the ball. Aaron Rodgers is forty one. No, 107 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 3: I'm saying what you said. Hold on, listen to what 108 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: I'm saying. You said that earlier. 109 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: They're three and one and haven't even played one game 110 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: at home. My point is football is very simple. It's 111 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: about wins and losses. Stop with the how it looks. 112 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: How it looks doesn't. 113 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 5: You're not total doesn't power looks okay, does not. 114 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 3: Let's pull the lose, let's for in the row. 115 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 5: Okay, then you could go and Rob only would say 116 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 5: this to Rob because Rob set up here an entirely 117 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 5: last year knocking the Chiefs, who did the exact same thing. 118 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: Knowing all all season long. 119 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 5: No, they did nothing but win to the two of 120 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 5: the six fifteen and one, and then what happened. 121 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: In the super Bowl. All I said happened in super Bowl. 122 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 3: So don't tell me happen. 123 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 5: Don't tell you. No, told you tire, they weren't super Bowl, Yes, 124 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 5: the entire teason. 125 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: Telling me they don't look good. 126 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 5: Something wrong. I don't like the way they win. This 127 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 5: can't keeping you did. They can't keep winning like that. 128 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 5: I don't like that's what you said. So all I'm 129 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 5: saying is no Eagles, something is off with them, because 130 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 5: again I'm not the different The difference is on that 131 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 5: story is the Eagles have. 132 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: A track record. They won the Super Bowl, and people. 133 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 5: Take one one super Bowl and three who has a 134 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 5: track record said the same thing last year. 135 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: All I'm telling you is I'm not I'm not gonna 136 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 3: get my pennies. 137 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 5: They lost the game, But you've been looking for a year. 138 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 3: They've been playing fining for a J. Brown. 139 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: Just man figure it out last year going into the 140 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: super Bowl that he was the weak link. And now 141 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: about a great team? You concerned about it? And great team? 142 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 6: And what was the t v P? 143 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: The v P? 144 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't the offensive line exactly, wasn't the defensive line. 145 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: It was him and guy? 146 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 5: You said, And so what's going on when I have 147 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 5: both of my star receivers questioning me DeVante Smith, who 148 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 5: doesn't see you? I say, the receivers do. Then you 149 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 5: have that's what they do. Then you have running back 150 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 5: and it's about is off with e won through? Absolute 151 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 5: got to stop and they got what twelve more games 152 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 5: to go, and then they got to go through and 153 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 5: something the Eagles And if you don't have to buy it, 154 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 5: I'll buy it for you. In fact, I'll buy two 155 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 5: packs of it each. Something is off with them and 156 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 5: I don't know what it is, and I don't know 157 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 5: how they remedy it, but they can't keep their This 158 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 5: is not sustainable whinning winning these games? 159 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: What does that mean? What are you saying? So? What 160 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: are you saying? They're not gonna make the playoffs. They're 161 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: not gonna win the division for them. 162 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 5: So what are you saying, not gonna win a super 163 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 5: Bowl like this? 164 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: Okay, you can put a stamp on that, on that. 165 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: That's easy to say because teams don't repeat. 166 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 5: It's hard to wait, wait, because that's what you said 167 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 5: about the Chiefs the whole entire year, and they're not 168 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 5: easy to say that. 169 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 3: You waste my whole year because. 170 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: I say everybody in their uncle picked the Chiefs because 171 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: they were the super Bowl. 172 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 3: Told you yeah, like they didn't get to the super Bowl. No, 173 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 3: but it didn't matter. I told you every week you 174 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 3: kept picking the it wasn't gonna. I didn't pick them 175 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: to lose. 176 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 5: Rock has the stat it was twelve games. 177 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: I picked every the lines and you picked the chief 178 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 3: We literally can't no do know we do it big 179 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 3: and right. I don't have that. 180 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 5: You could go back to the little b He did 181 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 5: it already twelve to no way, I picked twelve times 182 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 5: a get the Chiefs. He's calling you out, thank you, Fine, 183 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 5: it was ten, fix ten. 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Yeah, ain't just now you mentioned it? 210 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 5: Rob up quickly the Houston Texas. 211 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 4: Coming in a Sunday, it'd only scored five touchdowns as 212 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: a team had five. They scored six against the Baltimore Ravens. 213 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 4: They ended up winning forty four. The thirty four point 214 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 4: loss tied for the second worst margin defeat under John Harbaugh. 215 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 4: Their largest home defeats is twenty thirteen. The forty four 216 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 4: points they allowed is the most in a home game 217 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 4: in Harbaugh's eighteen seasons at a coach. Obviously a low 218 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 4: point for Harball and that much beleaguer defense. Even still, 219 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 4: he decided he's gonna stick with defensive coordinator Zach or 220 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 4: even as they continue to suffer ameliating defeat after him 221 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 4: aating defeat and in fact, Kyle. 222 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: Van Nois, one of their veteran leaders. 223 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 4: On defense, was asked after the game, if you know, again, 224 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 4: another blowout loss, another situation where the defense doesn't even 225 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 4: show up. 226 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 3: Till we dropped about the Lions. Kyle, yeah, I think 227 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 3: he was go ahead. 228 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 4: I was asked if he thought that maybe John Harbaugh 229 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 4: and Zach Gore's messaging was no longer getting through to 230 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 4: the team. 231 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: Take a listen news response. 232 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 7: Do you feel like the messages that are coming from 233 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 7: John or Zach or whoever aren't getting through in some way. 234 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 3: You know, I'm. 235 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 6: That's a that's probably a question that's above my pay grade. 236 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 3: Probably. 237 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 6: I think that's a harbond Z question, to be honest, Like, 238 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 6: I think their messaging is fine, and we got to 239 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 6: be the group to take that and go out and 240 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 6: do the simple things right, the fundamentals, easy basic stuff. 241 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: I said this after week one when they blew the 242 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: game in Buffalo. At some point, John Harbaugh, come, come, 243 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: come on, really is. 244 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 3: This and I get it, Lamar's out. You want to 245 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 3: use that as an excuse. 246 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: You can't use it as an excuse because the defense 247 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: gives up forty points. And it started in Buffalo when 248 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: they when they blew that game that Lamar and them 249 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: came out and put a forty piece on the opening 250 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: night on the road and they lost, and they lost, 251 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: and I said John Harbaugh should be fired. And everybody, oh, 252 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: you're a prisoner of the moment. All are you gonna 253 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: get to go blah blah blah? And now look where 254 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: they are. They're in a hole that they're not gonna 255 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: get out of. I mean, this is gonna be a 256 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: wast season. They're not gonna fix this. The DC doesn't 257 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: get fired after they gave up six touchdowns to the 258 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. 259 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 3: Seriously that alone. 260 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, they scored five touchdowns coming into the 261 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: game all season and they got six on us. 262 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 3: Richard Key and clicker, Okay. 263 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 5: Your car so mad? He like, why couldn't I have 264 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 5: that defense? I had the face, I could have stayed 265 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 5: in the league. Right, David Carr somewhere met you think 266 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 5: I'm crazy. I'm serious about Harball. 267 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: I know when you start, when you start holding onto 268 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: your guys and nobody get is held accountable. You talk 269 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: about players being held accountable, right, where's the coaches? Ain't 270 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: no way. The coaches have to somewhat be held accountable 271 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: as well on why this isn't happening and why they're 272 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: so bad. 273 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 5: So when we had this conversation, I was not firing 274 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 5: John Harball. Here is my issue with John Harball and 275 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 5: my conversations if I'm the general manager that would have 276 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 5: to have with him or he needs to have with 277 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 5: himself in the mirror. 278 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 3: A couple of things. 279 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 5: Number One, you talk about the defensive coordinator, who's still safe. 280 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 5: You don't have to update his LinkedIn page as we speak. 281 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 5: But when I look at these numbers, you can't be this. 282 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 5: You can't be last in points allowed per game, which 283 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 5: is obvious as we've talked about they giving up points 284 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 5: to everybody, thirty five point four. 285 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 3: You can't be the worst defense. 286 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 5: Ron yards you think they're giving up a game three 287 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 5: and twenty, I'm just four hundred and sevenyards a game 288 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 5: is crazy. Past defense, you're second to last giving up 289 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 5: two hundred and sixty six. And then run defense, you're 290 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 5: twenty seven giving up one hundred and forty one. That's horrendous. 291 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 5: You can't be bad at stopping to run and stopping 292 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 5: the pass. Absolutely horrific. Here's another issue I have they 293 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 5: lack of awareness right now because he's probably thinking, man, some 294 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 5: sometimes I hear him talk as if they were a 295 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 5: player two away. 296 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 3: Man, we just you know, we got to tighten up. 297 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 5: We're just he's making it like, oh man, if we 298 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 5: you know we got a bad pass interference caller, Man, 299 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 5: we had the one bad fumble. 300 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: No, I just read you the numbers of how bad 301 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 3: it is. 302 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 5: Also, you know what I think is happening to them, 303 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 5: And this happens when you have greatness I think they've 304 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 5: gotten Lamar Jackson's spoil where the defense is used to God, 305 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 5: we're gonna put up thirty to forty five points, will 306 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 5: be good. Even if we get down me and you said, 307 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 5: all he can go down O three, They'll be fine 308 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 5: as Lamar. And I think the team as a hold 309 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 5: in the defense specifically has just gotten used to we 310 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 5: got Lamar, will be all right. And that isn't how 311 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 5: you operate. If you're trying to get to that next level. 312 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 5: You should be saying, man, we got Lamar all week week. Man, 313 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 5: we want to help Lamar. We want to make sure 314 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 5: we are that additive to him so that he ever 315 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 5: has a bad night. 316 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 3: God forbid Lamar Jackson. 317 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 5: Ever have a bad nights y he loses, you know, 318 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 5: a couple of intercepts, we got his back, you know. 319 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 5: And that's what the Chiefs were able to do. Patrick 320 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 5: Mahols wasn't great last year or the year before, but 321 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 5: they were able to defense, able to hold it down. 322 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 5: You know, when Peyton Manny finally won a championship, what 323 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 5: do we say, man, if he ever had a defense 324 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 5: finally had Mathis and Freedy and Bob Sanders and those guys, 325 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 5: and they had a defense that can say, hey, if 326 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 5: you're ever just normal, Like they weren't a Super Bowl, 327 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 5: they won, remember what the against the Bears, they weren't great, 328 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 5: thankfully at a defense that can hold it down as well. 329 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 5: My point is I think the Ravens have gotten so 330 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 5: Lamar centric that they just they haven't figured out another way. 331 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 3: And last, but this is just this is really. 332 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: Bad, like something something internally is wrong, Like like I'm 333 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: not saying they're gonna be the greatest defense. This is 334 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: the Ravens defense that won a Super exactly, you know 335 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: what I mean. But but this is really forty points 336 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: a game and the cough up that game in Buffalo. 337 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 3: You remember where Josh Allen had. 338 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: Two hundred and seventy five yards or two fifty in 339 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. That's not a that's not like a 340 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: mishap like somebody made a bad play or turned around, 341 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: got turned around. 342 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 3: That's like you're not stopping anybody. 343 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: The Lions rushed for two hundred and fifty yards like that, 344 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: Like there's there's something else there internally that can't be 345 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: all the players. And that's why I'm saying, at some point, 346 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: what will it take you to say, John Harborough won 347 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. I was like many many many years 348 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: ago and it's been nothing but disappointment. 349 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 3: That's why I'm saying I think it should be time. 350 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 3: What are you waiting on? 351 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 5: I'm gonna say this, just like an eye in your house, 352 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 5: you know, or an oven. You start to warm that 353 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 5: thing and your'ight throw a pizza you got warm it up. 354 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 5: I'm warming up to see it ain't hot, but it's warm. 355 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 5: Because again, you know me, I like stability. I don't 356 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 5: want to just get rid of a guy and then go, uh. 357 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 3: You come here, you take the job. Now. 358 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 5: If you're on your job and you got a search 359 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 5: that you found the new Kyle Shanahan, m Flores, Sean 360 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 5: McVay or something, then okay, that's a different conversation. But 361 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 5: I'm not a fan of just firing a guy just 362 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 5: and then closing your eyes and looking around. But something 363 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 5: is definitely has to change it again for me, they 364 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 5: have to picture themselves. We have to be good at 365 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 5: all fast. It can't just be well, we got Lamar. 366 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 5: He'll figure it out, because that's not fair to Lamar. 367 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 5: Because in order to win, there are gonna be times 368 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 5: where your run he wasn't his best, but you picked 369 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 5: him up, because that's happened to every great quarterback. There 370 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 5: are times where that defense picked him up, their special 371 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 5: teams picked them up other guys around them. They ran 372 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 5: the ball and just kept ran the ball thirty five times. 373 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 5: This mighty found someone's throat. Whatever happened to that? So, yeah, 374 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 5: they need a hold for philosophy change right now because 375 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 5: something's going on. 376 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 377 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 378 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 379 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: listen live. 380 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 3: You have been just beyond mad right now at the Phillies. No, 381 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 3: and it's not an anti Dodger thing. 382 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: It's just based on I'll give you could you set 383 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: it to right when we first saw it, And here's 384 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: the issue that we have. Okay, So the Phillies came 385 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: storming back. It was for to nothing. Bottom of the night. 386 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: They get three straight hits. You know, it's it's four 387 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: to three. They have a man on second, is nobody out, 388 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: and the Phillies decide that they're gonna bunt the runner 389 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: over the third base. The tying run, not not the 390 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: winning the tying run. It didn't make any sense. He's 391 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: in scoring position. He can score from there. You don't 392 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: need to be at dirt, right. You can't afford him 393 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: to get out what you got out at third base. 394 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: The Max Muntsey fielded the bunt and through the mookie 395 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: who came from short stop to cover third. 396 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 3: I don't know what they were thinking. 397 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: They think the Dodgers are gonna allow you just to 398 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: butt and move over without trying to throw you out, 399 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: like they'll try. If they didn't get it, then there's 400 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: runners on first and third. They have to play the 401 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: infield in any way. Try to get a line drive 402 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: at somebody. My point is you had three chances to 403 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 1: knock in the time run. 404 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 3: And guess what. Two of the next three guys got hits. 405 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 3: The next guy got a hit. 406 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 5: You got two hits after that, right, And the crazy 407 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 5: part again is no outs. 408 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: Three batters to at least have a chance to knock 409 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: him in, or somebody could hit a ball. Say that 410 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: left ended batter hit a ball a second base, he 411 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: moves over the third sacrifice fly. 412 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 3: The games they were no outs. 413 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 5: Too, And the way you got you know, if you're 414 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 5: looking at it, if you're the Phillies. The way you're 415 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 5: hitting the ball, you got a chance to mess around 416 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 5: and not only just tie this thing, take a lead. 417 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,239 Speaker 3: How who's that's overmanaging that? 418 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 5: And that's to me when we talk with you and 419 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 5: I had we talked baseball all the time, and I 420 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 5: bring this up, it's just it seems like the the field, 421 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 5: the natural field, the gut instinct of the game is gone. 422 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 5: It's very much well, this is exactly what you do 423 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 5: on this exact situation. 424 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 3: We have it written down. Here's the formula, the winning formula. 425 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: I don't like that formula taking a run around it 426 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: because immediately what I say, now, you got one out 427 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: and that's and that didn't score, right, and that that's 428 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: a better double play could have ended the game at 429 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: that point. 430 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 3: And they wound up getting two more hits, but they couldn't. 431 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 5: Score, and you had the Dodgers shook it because the 432 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 5: Bill Penn, We've been talking about the bullpen for now 433 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 5: three four weeks. 434 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: Even the night, even if though they won that game, 435 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: you look at a bullpen and you go, dude, this 436 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: is happening on a regular base. 437 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 5: And it happened in a couple of games already in 438 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 5: the postseason. What did I tell you? I said, Dodger 439 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 5: have to get six. 440 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 3: The reds against the red score runs against the bullpen. 441 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 5: I said, the Dodgers have to get six runs the 442 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 5: field to kind of go and feel comfortable, which is 443 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 5: crazy because that just can't be sustainable. 444 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 3: You can't keep needing to have, you know, a million 445 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 3: runs per game. 446 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 5: Like your offense is looking at it like it's opposite 447 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 5: of the schoobl and the Tigers. Right, He's looking like, uh, 448 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 5: what more do y'all want from me? Can I get 449 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 5: a hit more than two three hits in the game? 450 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 5: And the Dodgers the opposite. They're like, man, we're putting 451 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 5: up crazy getting no hit for most of the game. 452 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 5: I mean, schoolbl He's got to be perfect, Like they don't. 453 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 5: They never score any great game. Gave up two solo 454 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 5: home runs, and he's looking at his team like, can 455 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 5: I get some help? 456 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 3: What more do y'all want from me?