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Speaker 1: Here we go. It is a Tuesday. Sam Darnold stopping

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Speaker 1: We're in Chicago. It's the Herd Man. The weather forecast.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I'm in NASA, on the Bahamas

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Speaker 3: It's great to have you in on a Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: So if I always have this kind of belief that

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Speaker 1: if something's truly gonna work, you know, I met my wife.

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Speaker 1: I remember the restaurant. I was like seven, eight minutes in.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, this is great, this is gonna work.

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Speaker 1: She's great.

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Speaker 3: It's funny, she was smart, she.

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Speaker 1: Was great sense of humor, and I was like, uh,

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Speaker 1: And it's the same in sports. Like Christian McCaffrey got

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Speaker 1: traded to the Niners mid season, he had thirteen touchdowns

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Speaker 1: for the Niners alone and led him to the NFC Championship.

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Speaker 1: When Kadi went to the Warriors, first eighteen games, they're

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Speaker 1: sixteen and two. Messi in heer Miami worked instantly. The

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Speaker 1: Heatles took fifteen games. Randy Moss goes to the Patriots

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Speaker 1: seven touchdowns in the first four games with Tom Brady stuff.

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Speaker 1: If it's gonna work relationships, business, sports, it can't take forever.

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Speaker 1: It can't be that hard. You can't have to go

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Speaker 1: to therapy four times a week. The relationship doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: So I'm reading a story this morning about how we're

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Speaker 1: a year into the Luca trade and that JJ Reddick

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Speaker 1: is frustrated. Lebron's frustrated because the Austin Reeves Lebron James

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Speaker 1: Luca trifecta. It's still not working out that well, How

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Speaker 1: the hell long is it take? It can't take this long,

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Speaker 1: And that's my pot. It's not on forty one year

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Speaker 1: old Lebron to make it work, and it's not on

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Speaker 1: undrafted Austin reeves to make it work.

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Speaker 3: It's on Luca to make it work.

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Speaker 1: But he's got that heliocentric style where he's got the

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Speaker 1: two things can be true. The Lakers stole him from

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Speaker 1: the MAVs. It was a great trade. And secondly, he

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Speaker 1: is aging quickly. The numbers don't lie. He gets four

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Speaker 1: times more technicals now than dunks. His athleticism is regressing.

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Speaker 1: He's not twenty seven years old yet, he's still four

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Speaker 1: or five days away from twenty seven. He should be

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Speaker 1: going into his prime. And you think, oh, the great athletes,

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Speaker 1: they all age equally. No, Big Ben and Cam fell

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Speaker 1: Luca dontage thing. I always said. My comp was always

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Speaker 1: he doesn't attack the rim. He's not going to contribute

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Speaker 1: much defensively. He spends way too much time barking at officials,

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Speaker 1: which if he was an elite defender, I'd be okay with.

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Speaker 1: But if you're not going to try on one end

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Speaker 1: a one dimensional jump shooter. And like I'm watching Wemby

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Speaker 1: Larry Bird. No Bird made All defense three times. Larry

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Speaker 1: Bird made every teammate he ever played with better. We're

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Speaker 1: a year into Luca and the Lakers, and Lebron's admitting it.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday I had Chris Brussard on and we talked about

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Speaker 1: this is that you know, you're for a pro athlete.

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Speaker 1: And I look at Luca right now and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: And it's not because he's not individually good enough. It's

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Speaker 4: because of the way he plays. He is so hard

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Speaker 4: Steve Nash, Chris Paul. They're ball dominant, but they were

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Speaker 1: We're a year into the Luca deal, playing with one

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Speaker 1: there'll be criticism. My favorite criticism is Colin, you change

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Speaker 1: your opinion. My take is in new information, new opinion.

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Speaker 1: So I'm looking today at Daniel Jeremiah, former NFL scout,

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Speaker 1: College football has completely flipped five years ago they had

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Speaker 1: All the big uglies, all your big linemen, defensive end,

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Speaker 1: is going to change it. Northern school are bigger. Northern

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Speaker 1: universities have better endowments. SEC schools. They're boosters are car dealers.

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Speaker 1: Big ten schools, their boosters are car makers. Three straight

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Speaker 1: Alabama, Georgia, LSU Territory. It's unbelievable. What's happened. And I

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Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark has literally changed the entire economy of the WNBA.

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Speaker 1: The WNBA couldn't make money. They had downsized to smaller arenas,

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Speaker 1: players are not rolling over like previous years. Think about

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Speaker 1: Shoe Hee O Tawni gets on the freeway, moves up

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Speaker 1: and we have a baseball dynasty, first time in twenty

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Speaker 1: five years. How about Scotty Scheffler. For years, everybody said,

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Speaker 1: who's the next Tiger. Well we found him. Scotty Scheffler

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Speaker 1: about this International Stars seven straight MVPs. International Stars now

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Speaker 1: this rant, the Big ten is officially a better at

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Speaker 1: when people say, you know, yeah, age changed your mind

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Speaker 1: We've had a massive seed change. Baseball four years ago

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Speaker 5: The Wolverines in Ohio State proved that the Big ten

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Speaker 5: is better at the highest level. But what's happened Colin.

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Speaker 5: Now there's depth in them. There's never been depth in

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Speaker 5: And this is actually so hard to believe. The depth

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Speaker 1: And we know they're better at the top because Michigan,

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Speaker 1: I've said it before take out Texas. Where would the

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Speaker 1: know you love the Spurs. Wemby put on a little

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Speaker 1: you know, they attack the basket because they don't have

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Speaker 1: that's not gonna work. So Detroit does not match up

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Speaker 1: well with Wemby and the Spurs. And you saw it

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Speaker 1: last night. You saw an elite East team an elite

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Speaker 1: Detroit that needs to score and attack the basket to score.

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Speaker 6: Is Detroit elite?

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Speaker 2: Colin?

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Speaker 6: Are we sure in the East?

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Speaker 3: They are?

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Speaker 7: I saw a team last night that did not have

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Speaker 3: Insanely young.

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Speaker 1: Half the roster feels like twenty twenty one, twenty two

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Speaker 1: their kid, they're really a year to two away.

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Speaker 3: They're really young.

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Speaker 6: Weeks, they're gonna be fine.

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Speaker 6: I think Spurs are going to the finals. Man, that

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Speaker 7: So the Duncan Spurs were boring, we would agree, right,

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Speaker 7: By the way, no more face of the league conversations. Okay,

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Speaker 7: it's one big yaba. It's his league for the next decade. Right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think Jokic right now is the best player.

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Speaker 1: He didn't score. He dominated the game. That's what like

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Speaker 1: YouTube, Subscribe, hit that thumbs up icon and comment away.

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Speaker 1: You know quarterback, even first round quarterbacks, about fifty percent

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Speaker 1: you have to go back to Peyton Manning in like

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Speaker 1: Like getting to a Super Bowl with a team that

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Speaker 1: drafted him, Like it just doesn't happen. So and I've

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Speaker 1: always said I'm a traits guy. Armsize. I don't care

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Speaker 1: trying to be cool, Shadoor, Johnny Manziel, Drew Locke, Cam Newton,

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Speaker 1: saying look at us.

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Speaker 3: I like, look at us, guys.

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Speaker 1: And so when people bang on Fernando Mendoza, they say

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Speaker 1: He was a good looking guy, but he was just

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Speaker 1: obsessed with football, like, hey, I'm not gonna have a

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Speaker 1: beer during the seas. Andrew Luck loved him. You know,

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Speaker 1: threw for forty five thousand yards. Cam Newton threw for

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Speaker 1: a little over thirty. One was cool, one wasn't so.

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Speaker 1: I was asking Matt Hazelbeck yesterday about Fernando Mendoza and

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Speaker 3: And here's what Matt said.

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Speaker 9: This is what works in a locker room. Okay, excellence

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Speaker 9: at your job. If you're able to be the best

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Speaker 9: in the world at what you do, we respect that.

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Speaker 9: The locker room respects that. The other thing is your

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Speaker 9: I don't care what locker room you're in. We respect

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Speaker 9: that you're giving it everything that you have. And then,

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Speaker 9: you know, the other thing is just the authenticity. Don't

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Speaker 9: Lean into who you actually are and just be authentic

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Speaker 9: with that. In the luck will love you, the fan

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Speaker 9: base will love you. Just strive to be the best

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Speaker 9: quarterback that you can be. All this other nonsense like,

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Speaker 9: that's not what it's about.

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Speaker 1: It's about being a successful quarterback in this league.

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Speaker 3: A lot of it is caring about the right things.

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Speaker 1: And Johnny Manziel distracted Cam Newton brilliantly talented, kind of distracted.

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Speaker 1: You gotta care about the right stuff. So the combine

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Speaker 1: starts this week Thursday, and everybody's nitpicking all these guys.

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Speaker 1: Mendoz is not gonna throw. He shouldn't throw. Nobody questions

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Speaker 1: his accuracy or arm strength or size. He doesn't need

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Speaker 1: to throw. He'll ill ace the interviews because he's so

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Speaker 1: grateful and has so much humility. But more than anything,

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Speaker 1: he just cares about the right stuff. He's just an authentic,

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Speaker 1: grateful kid that cares about the right stuff. Here's here

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Speaker 1: is a Raiders Jim's John spytech on what.

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Speaker 3: They look for. Who would that be in a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 10: A leader, tough as hell, somebody that loves to play football,

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Speaker 10: maniacal preparer.

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Speaker 8: Obviously, somebody that can throw the ball well, but I

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Speaker 10: Just somebody that loves the game and will give everything

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Speaker 10: gonna give their team everything that they got every time

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Speaker 10: that they're out.

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Speaker 8: There, prepare the right way, lead the right way.

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Speaker 10: I think there's a there's a great humility and selflessness

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Speaker 10: required to play that position at a high level.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, almost sounds like Fernando Mendoza of Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: at noon Easter non a Empacific.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, listen, I remember the first time I

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Speaker 1: and they had signed this five star quarterback. I forget

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Speaker 1: name is Sam Donald, and he's a couple of miles,

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Speaker 1: Sam is now a Super Bowl champion, and not a

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Speaker 1: lot of people believed that was going to happen. Sam did,

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Speaker 1: and he is now joining us, Like, let's go back

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Speaker 3: See.

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Speaker 1: I remember your freshman year and Start probably didn't tell

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Speaker 1: he's he doesn't care he doesn't. He's not caught up

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Speaker 1: in all the wrong stuff. What do you remember, Let's

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I do, And I remember, you know, a lot

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Speaker 8: You know, I knew that he was going in in.

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Speaker 11: The spring, so everyone was like, Oh, he's going to

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Speaker 8: I think has always.

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Speaker 11: Been something I've always had, even when I was in

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Speaker 1: I remember when you were struggling with the Jets and

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Speaker 1: and he said, listen, he's twenty years old. The Jets

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Speaker 1: you know, Peyton Manning's rare number one pick goes to

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Speaker 1: it's easy. It's really hard. When you're young and it's

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Speaker 1: New York City. Let's go back to the early New

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Speaker 1: Coast kid, You're three thousand and thirty five hundred miles

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I can play on Sundays.

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Speaker 3: I'm good on Saturdays. Can I be a Sunday guy?

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Speaker 11: You know I I'd be lying to you if I

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Speaker 11: there was a little bit of doubt, you know, throughout

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Speaker 11: those tough times in New York. But you know, I

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Speaker 8: And you know, I I.

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Speaker 1: I've said this before on the air. If you go

431
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Speaker 1: back to Carolina, your last six starts, you come, you

432
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Speaker 1: get to start again. You were sitting and watching for

433
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Speaker 1: you know, benched. They brought you back. Last six games,

434
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Speaker 1: you go four and two, first time you'd ever kind

435
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Speaker 1: of been benched. That's really where the journey starts. If

436
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Speaker 1: you go back to the November twenty seventh with Carolina.

437
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Speaker 1: From that moment until today, you're the winningest quarterback in

438
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Speaker 1: the league. So at the end of Carolina, they say, okay, Sam,

439
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Speaker 1: we're giving you the starting job again, and you played

440
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Speaker 1: pretty darn well. Do you look at that and say

441
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Speaker 1: to yourself, Okay, confidence back, I'm ready to go. What

442
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Speaker 1: did that matter to you?

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Speaker 8: One hundred percent?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, And I think, you know a lot of it

445
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Speaker 11: had to do again it's I feel like it's going

446
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Speaker 11: to be a theme here for this interview. But like

447
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Speaker 11: the coaches and players that I was with when I

448
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Speaker 11: was there, Ben mcadu being one of those great coaches

449
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Speaker 11: that I was with in Carolina, you know, just feeling

450
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Speaker 11: like you know, it was it was that same kind

451
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Speaker 11: of West Coast system where it was like, all right,

452
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Speaker 11: I could no matter what if I was taking seven

453
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Speaker 11: and a hitch, I never felt like I had to

454
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Speaker 11: throw it to a guy just because he was one

455
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Speaker 11: in the progression. And you know, a few trips and falls,

456
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Speaker 11: I feel like I can get to two and three

457
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Speaker 11: and even my outlet to my running back really quickly.

458
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Speaker 8: And you know, it was just that that system.

459
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Speaker 11: That's where I kind of fell in love with that

460
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Speaker 11: West Coast kind of listen to your if you listen

461
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Speaker 11: to your progression.

462
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Speaker 8: Kind of system.

463
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Speaker 11: And you know, I really fell in love with I

464
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Speaker 11: fell in love with it there and it just made sense,

465
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Speaker 11: especially you know, playing playing a coach like Todd Bowles

466
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Speaker 11: in Tampa Bay.

467
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Speaker 8: And that's because he's hide and shell.

468
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Speaker 11: He's hiding, you know, where guys are coming from, different pressures,

469
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Speaker 11: bringing forward to a side, trying to test your protections.

470
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Speaker 11: That way, it just it allowed me to play so

471
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Speaker 11: much faster. And you know, that's where I really fell

472
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Speaker 11: in love with that offense. And again, I have great

473
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Speaker 11: coaches and great players that I played with in Carolina

474
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Speaker 11: to to to thank for, you know, not only my

475
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Speaker 11: time in Carolina in the great times that we had,

476
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Speaker 11: but also winning a few games there at the end

477
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Speaker 11: and putting us in a chance to, you know, potentially

478
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Speaker 11: make the playoffs in a division that was kind of

479
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Speaker 11: struggling that year.

480
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Speaker 1: So then you go, it's well chronicled. Then you go

481
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Speaker 1: to San Francisco, you learn and sit back up party.

482
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Speaker 1: You go to Minnesota, you absolutely crush. That's well chronicled,

483
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Speaker 1: and they decide their decision as we like you, but

484
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Speaker 1: boy do we want a better d for us? And

485
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Speaker 1: then you go to Seattle. And we'll get to Seattle

486
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Speaker 1: in a second. But when you left Minnesota, was there

487
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Speaker 1: even a tinge of like, but you don't believe in me?

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Speaker 3: I won fourteen games, Like.

489
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Speaker 1: I would have understood if you got on a flight

490
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Speaker 1: to Seattle and thought, oh, I'm going to show those guys.

491
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Speaker 1: How did you view Minnesota saying we love you, here's

492
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Speaker 1: the price, good luck in Seattle?

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Speaker 3: How did that land for you?

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Speaker 8: Yeah? I think you know.

495
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Speaker 11: Being you know that that being the end of my

496
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Speaker 11: seventh season, I felt like, I definitely haven't seen it all,

497
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Speaker 11: but I've seen a lot in the NFL, and I

498
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Speaker 11: understand kind of the process and what it takes to

499
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Speaker 11: you know, I don't understand necessarily what it takes to

500
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Speaker 11: run an entire organization and run a team. But I

501
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 11: understand how difficult it can be, and you know, you

502
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Speaker 11: have a lot of decisions that you have to make

503
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Speaker 11: as a GM, as a head coach, and so for

504
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Speaker 11: me personally, like I, you know, obviously I believe in

505
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 11: myself and I understand in my abilities.

506
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Speaker 8: But at the same time.

507
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Speaker 11: I, you know, I understand you know, their thought process

508
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Speaker 11: of you know, going with the younger kid and maybe

509
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Speaker 11: you know, especially JJ, Like I think JJ is very talented,

510
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 11: he's super smart, and there's there's a lot of potential

511
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 11: there and I think JJ is going to be a

512
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 11: really really good player in this league. And you know

513
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Speaker 11: that that allowed them to kind of, you know, not

514
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Speaker 11: sign me to maybe a bigger deal and and bring

515
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Speaker 11: some veteran guys in. So you know, yeah, I think

516
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Speaker 11: when I sat back and really you know, digested, I

517
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Speaker 11: guess the information that they didn't want me back, you know,

518
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Speaker 11: that was you know, a little a.

519
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Speaker 8: Little bit of a tough pill to swallow.

520
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Speaker 11: But when I really stood back and looked at it

521
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Speaker 11: from afar, I really understood the decision and I really did,

522
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Speaker 11: and I'm thankful that I that I landed in Seattle.

523
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Speaker 1: So let's go to Seattle. Now, next seven minutes, let's

524
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Speaker 1: talk Seattle. First practice or two with JSN. Nobody knew

525
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: he was a number one. He's talented. We all watched him.

526
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: He had about sixty catches his first year, and all

527
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, that's his second year, and all of

528
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: a sudden, Now, Sam Darnold, you got the second youngest

529
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Speaker 1: team in the league, the Green Bay. You play js

530
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:19,479
Speaker 1: and your first moment you realized, oh wow, he is

531
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Speaker 1: something else. How long did it take you?

532
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Speaker 8: Oh? Man, Yeah, it was so OTAs.

533
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 11: He was always special running around doing this thing. But

534
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 11: you know that that early on in the in the process.

535
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Speaker 11: You know, as a receiver, especially, you don't want to

536
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Speaker 11: You're going about eighty eighty five percent most of the time.

537
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Speaker 11: And I remember we came out to LA and did

538
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Speaker 11: some throwing in the offseason with the guys, right before

539
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Speaker 11: training camp, and you know, i'd kind of seen him

540
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Speaker 11: move around for the last couple of months.

541
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Speaker 8: And then you know, I had one of my.

542
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Speaker 11: Other buddies that just came in through with us because

543
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 11: I needed an extra arm, and he.

544
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Speaker 8: Was like, dude, this guy is different.

545
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Speaker 11: Like the way that he moves around and the way

546
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 11: that he gets in and out of cuts, like he

547
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 11: doesn't he doesn't cut the way that I feel like you're,

548
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 11: you know, you normally teach a receiver. He's very kind

549
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 11: of rounded off, but he doesn't lose speed in and

550
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Speaker 11: out of cuts.

551
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Speaker 8: And I think that's that's one of his specialties.

552
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Speaker 11: And that's something as well that I that I kind

553
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Speaker 11: of got to witness first hand with Justin Jefferson, Like

554
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Speaker 11: there's a lot of similarities there with kind of the

555
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Speaker 11: way that they run routes. But Jayson, I think another

556
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Speaker 11: superpower that he has. He's a lot stronger than people

557
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Speaker 11: think he's got. He's got a really strong lower body,

558
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 11: and once he gets the ball in his hands, he

559
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 11: can he can do a lot, you know with the

560
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 11: ball in his hands, making making you know, guys miss

561
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Speaker 11: and being more physical than DB's Sam.

562
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Speaker 1: People said, well, Sam Donald didn't do a ton in

563
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Speaker 1: the super Bowl, And I said, folks, Sam Donald did

564
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Speaker 1: what Brady did. To of Brady's Super Bowls, he threw

565
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Speaker 1: for under two hundred yards. I said, Sam didn't have

566
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Speaker 1: a turnover in the playoffs in the Superior NF see

567
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Speaker 1: only Breeze, Aikman, you and one other quarterback. I think

568
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Speaker 1: Steve Young's ever done that when you got to the

569
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Did Mike McDonald those two weeks of practice,

570
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Speaker 1: did he just tell you, Sam, listen, we're gonna win

571
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Speaker 1: this game. We just got to make smart decisions. Did

572
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Speaker 1: you have a different feel coming into the Super Bowl

573
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Speaker 1: or did the game work the way you thought it would.

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Speaker 11: It's just one of those things that you know, I mean,

575
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Speaker 11: the head coach doesn't have to say anything to me

576
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 11: about taking care of the football.

577
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Speaker 8: You know, that's that's very obvious.

578
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Speaker 11: And I'm well aware of the defense that we have

579
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Speaker 11: how special that group is. But I think the higher

580
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Speaker 11: the stakes, the more prevalent and the more important the

581
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Speaker 11: ball is. And that's not to say it's not important

582
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Speaker 11: during the regular season, but you know, I think and

583
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Speaker 11: at the same time, like there are a lot of

584
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Speaker 11: throws I'd like to have back in that Super Bowl.

585
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Speaker 11: I missed the touchdown to Jacks right before the halftime.

586
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 11: I missed Cooper on a couple throws. Cooper made some

587
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 11: incredible catches in that game, just you know, having my

588
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Speaker 11: back that way, Like you know, there was a deep

589
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Speaker 11: ball or I guess early on I was scrambling out

590
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Speaker 11: to my left and Jackson was He would have been

591
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Speaker 11: wide open for a touchdown, and I just kind of

592
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 11: overthrew it a little bit. But so there are a

593
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Speaker 11: few throws that I'd like to have back in that game.

594
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Speaker 11: But I think going into that game and just going

595
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Speaker 11: into you know, the late, you know, ladder half of

596
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 11: the season, I knew that it would be very important

597
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Speaker 11: to just take care of the football.

598
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Speaker 1: I remember a game when you were at USC. You

599
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: went up to Washington and beat the Huskies, and you

600
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Speaker 1: were really good. You were I remember that game. Well,

601
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Speaker 1: tell people what it's like now you're back in the

602
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Speaker 1: West Coast, you're in Seattle. They were the biggest USC rival.

603
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Speaker 1: It was the Ducks and the Huskies. About playing in Seattle,

604
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Speaker 1: what is it like?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

606
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Speaker 11: Man, Yeah, I remember that game very vividly. I think

607
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Speaker 11: they were they were two or three in the country,

608
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Speaker 11: maybe four. You know, had had studs all around, Dante Pez,

609
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Speaker 11: John Ross, you know, Jake Browning, had a ton of

610
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Speaker 11: dudes on defense, Buddha Baker, all those guys. The list

611
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 11: goes on and on. But yeah, just going into that stadium,

612
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 11: it was electric.

613
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Speaker 8: Man. You know, you had that purple, that purple cloud

614
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Speaker 8: of dust.

615
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Speaker 11: You know, welcoming you as as you know, the Huskies

616
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 11: jogged onto the field, and you know, it was that

617
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Speaker 11: typical Seattle weather.

618
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Speaker 8: Kind of later in the season it was gray, a little.

619
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Speaker 11: Little chili, but man, it was It was just fun

620
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 11: to be able to play in an atmosphere like that,

621
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Speaker 11: Like that's what you dream of of playing in games

622
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Speaker 11: like that. And then to to finally be in Seattle

623
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Speaker 11: with the Hawks and just see the electric atmosphere that

624
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Speaker 11: our crowd creates, not only you know, throughout the last

625
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Speaker 11: half of the season, but even early on, like when

626
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 11: we had one o'clock games later or earlier in the season,

627
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 11: it was the same same intensity that we had, you

628
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Speaker 11: know in the playoffs. And so I just you know,

629
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Speaker 11: those fans are incredible, and it is a little different

630
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Speaker 11: in Seattle, the fandom that they have for their sports

631
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Speaker 11: up here.

632
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they kind of they kind of feel forgotten, they

633
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,479
Speaker 1: feel geographically isolated. So they got a chip on their shoulder.

634
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: They get lubricated in the three game and they let

635
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: you hear it for the next five hours. Listen, we

636
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Speaker 1: got to run. I'm so happy for you. I've been

637
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: lucky enough to follow all this stuff and know you

638
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: for years. Congratulations. You have a remarkable family, and I

639
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: appreciate you giving me fifteen minutes of time. You didn't

640
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Speaker 1: have to, and I appreciate.

641
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Speaker 8: It, of course, Calm, I appreciate you.

642
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Speaker 1: Man. Sam Darnald, super Bowl Champion, Sam Darnold, Yeah, his

643
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: journey's fascinating. You go to the end of Carolina November

644
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: twenty seventh, when he got a start, he got bench

645
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: for the first time ever, he got the starting job,

646
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: went four and two niners fourteen wins Minnesota super Bowl.

647
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: And you know that's why I say, when you're young,

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Speaker 1: have it initially. He now does. And I've told the

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Speaker 1: story where John Snyder, the GM, at one point said,

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Speaker 1: now what is it about fans and the media and

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Speaker 1: Sam DARNALLD Like, the guy is good. We watch him

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Speaker 1: Bowl with Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 3: He's good.

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Speaker 1: And John Snyder, who's usually right at the combine this week,

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Speaker 1: was right again. Congrats to Sam. Joel Klak, Kyle van

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Speaker 1: what to make of it.

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Speaker 3: Be sitting down when we introduce it. See you then,