WEBVTT - I'm Tired of My Freakin' Sleep Problem!

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<v Speaker 1>I'm tired of my freaking sleep problem. It's one more thing,

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<v Speaker 1>one more thing. Is this a self explanatory?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, here we go to the man that braided my

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<v Speaker 2>hair while I was sleep on a plane. I need

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<v Speaker 2>you to come forth immediately, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Said, directly behind me.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people might say, how did you let somebody braid

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<v Speaker 2>your hair? First of all, when I get on a plane,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't sleep.

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<v Speaker 4>I hibernate.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember specifically, I'm sleep on the plane and I

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<v Speaker 2>hear and I said, who is taking pictures? And when

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<v Speaker 2>I wake up, it's literally right in my ear. That's

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<v Speaker 2>where I found the braid. Don't touch people while they're asleep.

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<v Speaker 1>It's weird. Woman went to sleep on the plane and

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<v Speaker 1>somebody braided her. She's asleep, and she's unhappy about it

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<v Speaker 1>and wants them to come forward. Okay, man, you're a

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<v Speaker 1>sound sleeper, is all I take from that.

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<v Speaker 5>I would wake up if somebody looked at me on

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<v Speaker 5>a plane at all. I can't sleep plane to begin with, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>well I can't.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why you can't sleep in a bed.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. That's now I'm gonna get sidetracked on the

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<v Speaker 1>sleep this thing again. But so all the stuff about

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<v Speaker 1>you can't look at your phone, you can't eat this,

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<v Speaker 1>or all the things you gotta do. Then why can

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<v Speaker 1>I sleep like a baby on a plane or in

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<v Speaker 1>the afternoon, I stare at my phone for like eight

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<v Speaker 1>hours before I lay down for a nap and go

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<v Speaker 1>sound asleep. Or on a plane, I mean a comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>position on a plane, I've been looking at my phone

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<v Speaker 1>for hours.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I got strangers all around.

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<v Speaker 1>I've taken no melatonin or magnesium or any of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>I go sound asleep. So it can't be those things,

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<v Speaker 1>can it.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have any idea. That's really interesting. Set o questions.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well I've I've done this to myself where I've

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<v Speaker 5>stressed myself out enough about not sleeping that I can't sleep.

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<v Speaker 4>True. True, I've finally achieved these zen like ability to

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<v Speaker 4>not do that took me years years.

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<v Speaker 1>Or even the coffee thing. I go home for a nap,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been drinking coffee all morning and I go to sleep.

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<v Speaker 4>So fall in coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>All the things you're not supposed to do that are

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly keeping me up at night, and you go sound asleep.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something different. I don't know what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. A doctor might say, well yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>no no, you can't sleep at night because you do

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<v Speaker 4>all those things. Then you finally crash with such exhaustion.

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<v Speaker 4>You sleep in the day, which makes it harder to

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<v Speaker 4>sleep at night. Follow my eight point plan, you'll slumber

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<v Speaker 4>like a baby. But why wouldn't it reverse at some point?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't You can't sleep for your nap, but you

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<v Speaker 4>fall asleep at night. Well right right, I try and

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<v Speaker 4>try to nap, but I just can't. Never had that problem. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>what is that? I don't know. It's something emotional, brain chemistry.

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<v Speaker 4>E obviously true you lay down for a nap, or

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<v Speaker 4>maybe you're nocturnal. Is there a certain percentage of the

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<v Speaker 4>population that is meant to be taken possum?

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<v Speaker 3>I was just gonna say Jack's opossum.

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<v Speaker 4>A little bit. My daughter, Kate, my oldest, is uh.

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<v Speaker 4>She's one of those people who will live Keith Richard's hours,

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<v Speaker 4>left her own devices.

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<v Speaker 1>Me too, I know, I am. I just have a

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<v Speaker 1>job that doesn't allow it. The one time in my

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<v Speaker 1>life where I could sleep whenever I wanted to is

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<v Speaker 1>I was working at ups late at night and allowed

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<v Speaker 1>my hours to just be I never said an alarm clock.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd go to sleep at like four in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd wake up around noon on my own. Only

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<v Speaker 1>time I've ever been well rested in my life and

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<v Speaker 1>not wishing I could lay down immediately was when I

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<v Speaker 1>was sleeping from four am to noon. It was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've just built for that, and you either

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<v Speaker 1>are you aren't. And if you're not in that cycle

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<v Speaker 1>that you're built for, then you're just perpetually unhappy. I think.

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<v Speaker 4>It's such a critical pillar of health. You'd think there

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<v Speaker 4>would be more known about it and everybody would know it.

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<v Speaker 4>It wouldn't be nearly as mysterious.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how is all the stuff that they prescribe to help?

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, I can't take that because I will be

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<v Speaker 5>a mess the next day, probably because of these hours.

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<v Speaker 4>But okay, here you go, all right, according to AI,

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<v Speaker 4>which would never make a mistake. Yes, some people are

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<v Speaker 4>naturally more inclined to be night owls or nocturnal, meaning

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<v Speaker 4>they have a preference for staying up late and waking

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<v Speaker 4>up later due to a genetic predisposition that affects their

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<v Speaker 4>circadian rhythm.

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<v Speaker 1>And like a lot of things in society. We apply

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<v Speaker 1>character to people who get up early naturally and go

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<v Speaker 1>to bed early, even though they might just be built

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<v Speaker 1>that way, right, Like, they're better people than those of

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<v Speaker 1>us who would rather stay up late and sleep till noon.

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<v Speaker 4>Although for all of human history, with very few exceptions,

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<v Speaker 4>you had to get up in horror and be done

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<v Speaker 4>by the time the sun went down. So so we

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<v Speaker 4>developed morality around practical reality.

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<v Speaker 1>Could be.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, humans have different sleep wake are chronotypes, which range

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<v Speaker 4>from morning larks to night owls. You call me a

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<v Speaker 4>morning lark. We're fighting. Yeah, I like girls.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit. It's a bit of a dandy

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<v Speaker 1>kind of term.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah it is. Yeah, Genetic and environmental factors factor in.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's check out this whole morning larks thing

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<v Speaker 4>or night owls.

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<v Speaker 1>I never sleep as well as I do at one

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<v Speaker 1>thirty in the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me accept all the cookies. I really enjoy cookies.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm the same way Jack. I can lay down

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<v Speaker 5>and take a nap and I'm out. Tell me to

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<v Speaker 5>go to bed at a reasonable hour, right, So just

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<v Speaker 5>gonna lay there.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the question for any doctor out there, then, So

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<v Speaker 1>why does the staring at a smartphone or drinking caffeine

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever not apply to that sleep. That's the question

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<v Speaker 1>I have.

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<v Speaker 5>And I know that it's crap because I don't look

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<v Speaker 5>at my phone in bed, so that's not the issue here.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, so this is interesting. I was hoping they had

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<v Speaker 4>a whole list of your various birds you're supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess this is an interesting insight. Though such diversity

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<v Speaker 4>may have benefited our ancestors. Having people who are naturally

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<v Speaker 4>inclined to sleep at different times may have increased the

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<v Speaker 4>likelihood of survival for hunter gatherer tribes.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that makes perfect sense. Or saying you want me

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<v Speaker 1>to be the night watchman, no problem, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>sleep during the day.

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<v Speaker 4>Who will protect us at night? Oh, lazy jack. Of course,

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<v Speaker 4>they wouldn't have had a value judgment.

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<v Speaker 1>They'd say.

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<v Speaker 4>They would probably call you Sees at night or something

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<v Speaker 4>some groovy Indian name or just the owl they'd call you,

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<v Speaker 4>and you'd be no, like, I got your back. Everybody's slumber. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>just don't be eff and bothering me in the morning

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<v Speaker 4>when y'all are going after the analoge.

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<v Speaker 3>And then yeah, we'll call in Joe the lark.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, I've got this one.

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<v Speaker 1>My Indian name would be bald man with murder face.

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<v Speaker 4>Hmmm, grumbles with anger is awake?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who wants to work third ship?

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<v Speaker 3>Have you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Watching the castle gate? Happy to do it. I'll go

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep at five in the morning when the sun's

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<v Speaker 1>coming up, and sleep till about doing the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, and people would be very grateful to have you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a certain number of your type in the tribe. That's

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<v Speaker 4>got to be it. Well, there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're just wired that way and you're screwed.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's let's uh, you know, take the baton from well,

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't do this from Jim Bohannon and doing all

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<v Speaker 4>night to talk show. We'd rule the airwaves. Truckers would

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<v Speaker 4>enjoy our show. Of course, you do a podcast whenever

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<v Speaker 4>the hell you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Back back when that used to be a thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not really anymore, but back when that used to be

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<v Speaker 1>a real thing in the radio industry, I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>would be the perfect job for me alone in a room,

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<v Speaker 1>taking calls, talking about stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, it sounds like a nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>In the middle of the night. Oh, I would have

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<v Speaker 1>loved that. It doesn't fit in with much of a

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<v Speaker 1>raising kids sort of a lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, let's see. So there's I was lucky that I

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<v Speaker 4>got to run the experiment that one time when I

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<v Speaker 4>was working at UPS that that sleep pattern.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, it was so awesome. Yeah, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>set an alarm for like nine months, the only time

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever in my life felt well rested.

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<v Speaker 4>So here's a professor of sleep medicine at the University

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<v Speaker 4>of Oxford says, the variation in sleep patterns is simply

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<v Speaker 4>how genetics works. It mirrors the differences in hair, eye,

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<v Speaker 4>and skin color height. Quote, It's a bit like any

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<v Speaker 4>other biological characteristic. There's a normal distribution. So there are

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<v Speaker 4>people on both extremes and the majority of people are neither.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, why isn't this talked about more than applying these

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<v Speaker 1>rules of well that you're looking at your smartphone too

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<v Speaker 1>much and you need to take magnesium and all these

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<v Speaker 1>different things, as opposed to well, you're a late night person,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're going to struggle with it. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>try to figure out how to get a nap.

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<v Speaker 4>Isn't the first thing you should do is establish what

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<v Speaker 4>chronat type you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, my dad clearly is a guy that is built

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<v Speaker 1>because he's done this his whole life, and he's well rested.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes to bed it like nine at night and

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<v Speaker 1>gets up before in the morning. Mm.

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<v Speaker 4>Because he's got more character than you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's the way it's been applied. Yes, but it

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<v Speaker 1>worked perfect for his job.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Wow, I think we've we've had a real breakthrough here. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I would like we need to publish a peer reviewed papers.

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<v Speaker 4>Anybody have any idea how you get started on that?

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<v Speaker 1>First? We need to find peers. Other talk show hosts, right,

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<v Speaker 1>make genital jokes? Is that our peers?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my, back to genitals.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, the best sleep I get, believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 6>is in a dental chair. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 6>guys ever fall asleep, that's the n No. No, I

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<v Speaker 6>can if I get my teeth cleaned, I fall asleep

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<v Speaker 6>in the chair.

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<v Speaker 1>There's an just there. Do you know? I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you understand what goes on with surgery? Then what that

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<v Speaker 1>mask they put over your mouth just to put you asleep?

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<v Speaker 4>You wake up in your belt is on?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know why, just saying well, I guess that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm you sleep at the dentist?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, during like cleanings. Yeah, during cleanings.

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<v Speaker 3>The hell Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I just count the tenths of seconds as they crawl by.

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<v Speaker 1>Does they make that sound with the scraper on your teeth?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? I am just continuously wiping the sweat off the

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<v Speaker 5>palms of my hands.

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<v Speaker 1>While sleep like a baby. Mm hmmm, you know it

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<v Speaker 1>puts me to sleep. A prostate exams, man, I'm out

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<v Speaker 1>like a like afterwards.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, ants and grab all this is good stuff.