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Speaker 1: Get any better than that.
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Speaker 6: I'll write the intro. Remember the bill, O'Reilly rant. I'll
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Speaker 5: A very special guest.
Speaker 6: We're gonna get to here momentarily, but first wolf we
Speaker 6: want to make sure you're ready to go. I see
Speaker 6: your dinner plate. You've already had dinner served here. So
Speaker 6: that's a good indicator, early indicator.
Speaker 2: That's right, Paul. I didn't dig into it right now.
Speaker 2: You know you cannot dive into it right now. You
Speaker 2: gotta wait for the break. Of course, that thing's gonna
Speaker 2: be gone during the break. I just want everybody to
Speaker 2: know that. Man, it's good to see you all out here.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5: It is real and it is spectacular.
Speaker 1: Is it not?
Speaker 6: The Big Red Rage and our very special guest here
Speaker 6: to kick off this season in front of a live audience.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 6: How about the Cardinals leading tackler. How about a guy
Speaker 6: who just passed four hundred career tackles, a guy who's
Speaker 6: a team captain, a guy who's been identified as getting
Speaker 6: among the most respect in that locker room. Everybody, please
Speaker 6: help us welcome kay Zier White to the Big Red Rage.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for having me. I appreciate you, guys. Thank you.
Speaker 6: First off, is there a conspiracy here Wolf, something happened
Speaker 6: behind the scenes where the first guest we book is
Speaker 6: a West Virginia guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's I know, I don't know if well, listen,
Speaker 2: I did not book him. I can tell you that much.
Speaker 2: But he's definitely one of my favorite players. And it's
Speaker 2: not just because of the West Virginia West by God Virginia,
Speaker 2: as we like to say, right there, don't don't make
Speaker 2: me signifights on release, We'll go to break. It's also
Speaker 2: because he was coached at a junior college by my
Speaker 2: first NFL roommate, Mark Dudah. Mark Dudah, who was a
Speaker 2: defensive tackle for the Saint Louis Cardinals, came out here
Speaker 2: played in Phoenix. As a matter of fact, with the
Speaker 2: Phoenix Cardinals all the way back in nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 1: Mark Dudah. So we got a connection, guys, this small world.
Speaker 2: Indeed, tell me about Mark Duty, your memories of him.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, he's just a real inceensed guy. He's
Speaker 8: just a great person.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 8: He gave me a second chance at life. That's how
Speaker 8: I like to look at it because you know, coming
Speaker 8: out of high school, I couldn't get you know, any
Speaker 8: offers because I was slacking in school and not taking
Speaker 8: it serious. So you know, me and all my brothers,
Speaker 8: he gave us a second chance at life. We always say, we,
Speaker 8: you know, still keep in contact with him. You know,
Speaker 8: he changed our lives.
Speaker 6: And guess what back in March when you signed it's
Speaker 6: an unrestricted free agent. We had Mark Dudah on the
Speaker 6: show on the Big Red Rage. A little bit later,
Speaker 6: we'll get into that in depth. We'll hear from your
Speaker 6: former junior college coach and Wolfe's roommate during training camp.
Speaker 6: We'll get into all that. See, we're the original Thursday
Speaker 6: night football. That's the way we like that. Okay, all right,
Speaker 6: forget this whole Niners Giants game going on, but you
Speaker 6: see the Giants and what are you thinking of after
Speaker 6: that game in Week two?
Speaker 8: You know, it's definitely frustrating because I feel like in
Speaker 8: the first half, we came out, you know, blazing on
Speaker 8: all cylinders, you know, defensively, special teams and offensively.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're playing, you know, very well.
Speaker 8: And I just think we relaxed a little bit, and
Speaker 8: you know, they came out in the second half and
Speaker 8: you know, punched us in the mouth, and uh, you know,
Speaker 8: got to win over it. So it definitely a little
Speaker 8: you know, frustrating because as two weeks in a row,
Speaker 8: we felt like we just let it slip, you know.
Speaker 2: You know, first of all, just to hear you say that,
Speaker 2: it warms my heart as a former player to come
Speaker 2: out and say, hey, listen, we may have relaxed a
Speaker 2: little bit in that second half because we were dominating
Speaker 2: the first half. I know there's a lot of people
Speaker 2: who will not understand that. I'm not one of them,
Speaker 2: because I will understand how that happens because you're a
Speaker 2: human being, Right, That's how that happens. Right, You go
Speaker 2: out there and you're pounding the other team and you
Speaker 2: feel very, very confident. Nobody made a conscious decision to
Speaker 2: go out and say, let's relax, guys, we're okay, We're
Speaker 2: gonna be fine. Nobody ever makes that a decision, a
Speaker 2: conscious decision. But that happens because you're a human being.
Speaker 2: From time to time, I love the accountability. You have
Speaker 2: to speak the truth after you lose, and that's what you're.
Speaker 1: Doing right now. It's really important to you, isn't it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, for sure, man, I feel like that's just the
Speaker 8: only way you keep growing and keep getting better.
Speaker 2: That's accountability times ten. And it started with your coach
Speaker 2: for sure, all right.
Speaker 5: And that's a great segue, he goes.
Speaker 6: Here's Jonathan Gannon describing that game, talking to the media
Speaker 6: after the thirty one twenty eight.
Speaker 9: Loss tailor two halfs and we got a coach and
Speaker 9: play better. You know, in the second half we had
Speaker 9: a lead and we lost the lead and didn't do
Speaker 9: enough to win a game. All three phases goes into that,
Speaker 9: and complomary football goes into that, and our guys know what,
Speaker 9: we got to get done and improve that quickly if
Speaker 9: we think we're going to close out Lee's and get
Speaker 9: some wins here.
Speaker 6: You know, I don't have to tell you, but the
Speaker 6: rookies and I think in the locker room are finding
Speaker 6: out that more than half the NFL games are one
Speaker 6: score games. You have to figure out a way to
Speaker 6: win those close games. You gotta finish.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta finish.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean start, yeah, you gotta start good and
Speaker 8: you know, finish.
Speaker 6: And to me, and this is my theory, did the Cardinals, relax,
Speaker 6: take their foot off the gas.
Speaker 5: Okay, but I think the Giants at.
Speaker 6: Twenty eight to seven said, you know what, we're going
Speaker 6: to the forty nine ers next on Thursday night. And
Speaker 6: like the urgency in that Giant sideline went through the
Speaker 6: roof because they were staring zero to three, starving in
Speaker 6: the face.
Speaker 1: Definitely, man, for sure. You know, you just felt it
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 8: It was like we're playing a totally different team in
Speaker 8: the second half.
Speaker 1: You know, I sip my hat offs on. You know,
Speaker 1: they came out, you know, beat us.
Speaker 2: So kay's here, you're you're the guy. You're the bike linebacker.
Speaker 2: Of course that makes a lot of the calls. You
Speaker 2: may all the calls, as far as I'm concerned, correct, correct, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's okay. Really smart guy here, Okay, really smart guy
Speaker 2: that is sitting here. He makes all the checks, all
Speaker 2: the calls. How different were the calls in the checks
Speaker 2: in the second half than the first half.
Speaker 8: I'm going to say it was much different. You know,
Speaker 8: they were just trying to speed the pace up and stuff.
Speaker 8: They try to just go hurry up and you know,
Speaker 8: kind of get us out of whack a little bit.
Speaker 8: But I want to say the calls are that different
Speaker 8: or anything. You know, we we pretty much stick to
Speaker 8: the script for.
Speaker 1: A lot of times. It's about execution, isn't it. For sure?
Speaker 1: Going out there and doing your job for sure.
Speaker 6: Well, and if you're looking for one stat according to
Speaker 6: Nick rollis your defensive coordinator and the head coach, they
Speaker 6: had zero explosives in the first half.
Speaker 5: They had like nine nine to the second half.
Speaker 6: Right, that was crazy. Yeah, And of course a lot
Speaker 6: of that just getting to the quarterback. And once you
Speaker 6: guys did Daniel Jones, I don't know if he ran
Speaker 6: the forty at the combine.
Speaker 5: He's quicker than he looks.
Speaker 1: Maybe a lot faster than he looks. Sure he was
Speaker 1: pulling away from guys. Yeah, long strider, Yeah, he definitely
Speaker 1: has speak.
Speaker 5: I was impressed by that.
Speaker 6: In fact, you know, Calvic consulting here at the poly
Speaker 6: Pigskin Division, May I surmise that maybe the Cardinals should
Speaker 6: get Josh Dobbs out running a little bit. One of
Speaker 6: the all time great SEC dual threat quarterbacks as well.
Speaker 6: I'd love to see him. We saw what he did
Speaker 6: on a twenty three or touchdown roll. We'll get into that.
Speaker 5: In fact, here's Dobbs, and just look what he's learned.
Speaker 6: He's in year seven, what he's learned, and what has
Speaker 6: to happen now coming off a loss like that.
Speaker 10: Got stick together figure out ways to continue to get better.
Speaker 10: He continued to dig into our playbooks, dig into our preparation,
Speaker 10: finding ways to improve our bodies so that we're able
Speaker 10: to come out and get the job done next Sunday, give.
Speaker 5: Us a quick word on your quarterback.
Speaker 6: Because he's never made three starts in a row in
Speaker 6: his NFL career. He got two starts his first two starts. Ever,
Speaker 6: at the end of last season, he vowed after Week
Speaker 6: one of Washington there would be a big improvement, in
Speaker 6: his words, quote a huge jump he did. He went
Speaker 6: up twenty points in his passer rating. What do you
Speaker 6: see at him those first two weeks and even this
Speaker 6: week in practice?
Speaker 8: I just think he's real, like calm to me, like
Speaker 8: even if things get chaotic, I never really see him flinch.
Speaker 1: It just looks like he's been there before.
Speaker 8: I mean, I would have never known he only started
Speaker 8: two games if you didn't say that.
Speaker 1: He just seem, you know, real prepared. I always see him.
Speaker 8: I always see him in there early and late you
Speaker 8: could just tell he's a true pro.
Speaker 2: Talk a little bit about the defensive line, because how
Speaker 2: much of an impact do you think that had on
Speaker 2: the second half when Carlos Watkins went out of that game.
Speaker 1: Of course, you already were missing Lucky Fotu and LJ. Collier.
Speaker 2: You're already missing those guys right now injury. You're banged
Speaker 2: up right there. There's a relative inexperience out there as well.
Speaker 2: Dante Stills, of course, our West Virginia guy. Yes, he's
Speaker 2: out there, you know, but he's a rookie. He's finding
Speaker 2: his way. How much of that really had an impact
Speaker 2: on that defense? And how you guys played in the
Speaker 2: second half?
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, you know, we had guys, sir, But we
Speaker 8: don't never want to use that as an excuse but reason. Yeah,
Speaker 8: but you know, we try to look at it as
Speaker 8: next man, you know up mentality and just keep trying
Speaker 8: to keep you know, pushing forward and uh just putting
Speaker 8: our you know, best foot forward.
Speaker 5: What's it what's it like to tackle Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he a great player.
Speaker 8: I've been playing against him since high school from the
Speaker 8: same area, so wow, he's a great player. You know,
Speaker 8: he definitely a challenge. Uh, you know, every time I
Speaker 8: play against him all you know, I like the battle
Speaker 8: for sure.
Speaker 2: So when you say from the same area, what I mean,
Speaker 2: same town or it's.
Speaker 8: Down like ten minutes from my same same conference in
Speaker 8: football all through high.
Speaker 5: School, it's just Pennsylvania.
Speaker 8: Where Yeah, Pennsylvania, Lehigh Valley, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, So I mean you're on a first
Speaker 6: name basis when you're trash talking Saquon across the line,
Speaker 6: this bit you.
Speaker 1: Respect, that's my dog. Yeah, we're cool. We're cool with
Speaker 1: each other.
Speaker 6: Of course, a lot of people know Kaizer White. Just
Speaker 6: when everyone's like, okay, welcome Kaizier. He gave a nice
Speaker 6: welcome to Sam Howell early in the Washington game Week one,
Speaker 6: and I was on that sideline and that hit reverberated
Speaker 6: in more ways than one.
Speaker 5: I can't tell you how many guys said.
Speaker 6: That set the tone for the rest of that game
Speaker 6: in a lot of ways, for the Cardinals identity on defense.
Speaker 5: Just take us through that play and that big hit
Speaker 5: on the Washington quarterback.
Speaker 8: You know he just started scrambling, and you know he's young,
Speaker 8: you know, his first start. You know, I just wanted
Speaker 8: to slow him down a little bit. Put a guy,
Speaker 8: you know, just put a good lick on him a
Speaker 8: little bit, just to you know, try to set the
Speaker 8: tone early.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you don't have fine for that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so I know, I don't want to make
Speaker 5: light of it, okay, but it might.
Speaker 6: Have been money well invested in some ways and the
Speaker 6: identity this defense. Maybe it showed up on film. I
Speaker 6: know the Giants cited it going into that game. But
Speaker 6: how tough is it to tackle a quarterback in today's NFL?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Sorry, because I feel like you just got to go
Speaker 8: up there and you kind of got to think about
Speaker 8: how you're going to hit him, and it kind of
Speaker 8: handicap you.
Speaker 1: I want to say, slow you down a lot.
Speaker 8: You know, you hit him too low penalty, you hit
Speaker 8: you are penalty, You hit him up high penalty, right,
Speaker 8: and then if you don't hit him, they'll just like
Speaker 8: two years ago when I was with the Chargers, you know,
Speaker 8: let up on a quarterback and he scored. Uh it's
Speaker 8: the guy that Broncos quarterbacks years younger guy he's with
Speaker 8: Jul jew Luck.
Speaker 2: Yeah score. So wow, I got to learn my lessons.
Speaker 2: Don't get me started. Yeah, don't get me started. I'm sorry, man,
Speaker 2: It just honestly, right now, the way they protect quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: they've gone overboard.
Speaker 1: They have in my opinion.
Speaker 6: Well, and look, Josh Shabbs Jack stopped the free safety
Speaker 6: at the goal line, right, but you can't tell me
Speaker 6: that free safety is out.
Speaker 1: They thought he was gonna slide.
Speaker 5: Is he gonna slide? Is he gonna No, he's not
Speaker 5: gonna slide. Now it's too late.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you had a dis event. You got a disavente Hey.
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Speaker 6: We continue, we'll talk more about this old West Virginia thing,
Speaker 6: exactly how you went from a receiver in dB in
Speaker 6: high school to an NFL middle linebacker. I want that
Speaker 6: answer on the Big Red Rage with Kaiser White, brought
Speaker 6: to you by Santan Ford in Gilbert.
Speaker 2: Kaiser White, just up the temple for everybody out on
Speaker 2: this shield right now between the White Lions.
Speaker 5: What are you going to do about A message has
Speaker 5: been sent?
Speaker 1: What is that message? David?
Speaker 4: That messages we will fight you and Kaiser White's a thumber.
Speaker 1: He has been all over the field and he is
Speaker 1: a physical guy as well.
Speaker 4: Kaizer White boy turned on the Jets to get to
Speaker 4: the quarterback. Yeah, Kaiser White and run him flying in
Speaker 4: there at the end is Kaizer White.
Speaker 1: It's a culture of physicality, is what this is about.
Speaker 4: He's a very physical player and one of the reasons
Speaker 4: why the Cardinals wanted to bring him over when Jonathan Gannon.
Speaker 5: Got the job. What a big play by Kaizier White.
Speaker 2: Kaiser White getting off and awful lot of blocks right
Speaker 2: now and making tackles, hit and sacked by Kaiser Kaizer White,
Speaker 2: Manhunter track in back, Kaizer White.
Speaker 6: Ash and Wolf on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. Two
Speaker 6: games into this season. Let's see nine tackles a team
Speaker 6: I against Washington. Seven tackles in a sack against the Giants.
Speaker 6: Cardinals starting middle linebacker Kaizer White is our guest. It
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Speaker 6: Resorts and Casino, Wild Horse Pass, Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley.
Speaker 5: So let's see Wolf here.
Speaker 6: If you're gonna go ahead and you're searching for a
Speaker 6: mic linebacker. You want to check the box of speed
Speaker 6: sideline to sideline. Gotta have speed, Paul, Okay, thumper, as
Speaker 6: Dave Pash said, right there, not that Dave would know
Speaker 6: anything about that thumper okay.
Speaker 2: Also known as a dirt liquor. PAULM I see somebody
Speaker 2: that is low to the ground and will hit.
Speaker 6: You and then able to wear the green dot and
Speaker 6: called the defense and make all the checks.
Speaker 5: All right, smart high IQ.
Speaker 6: So okay, I guess those of the three boxes, Kaizier
Speaker 6: you need to check for your job description.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, yeah, definitely. Man.
Speaker 2: You know not only that too, I would say leader.
Speaker 2: Have you always been a leader?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I would assume so, but just a lead by example guy.
Speaker 8: I don't really like to do too much talk. And
Speaker 8: then I talk when when I need to. But you know,
Speaker 8: I never wanted to beat those guys, one of those
Speaker 8: guys that just talk and don't you know, I have
Speaker 8: it show up on the field. So I'll just you know,
Speaker 8: I try to lead by example.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, like, can you give us
Speaker 2: an instance as to how bad happens, how that actually happens?
Speaker 1: Your leadership is it out on the field.
Speaker 8: Typically, yeah, out on the field, but you know you
Speaker 8: practice field. Me is just trying to do things the
Speaker 8: right way. And for like younger guys, when they see
Speaker 8: you doing things the right way, they just gonna follow you.
Speaker 6: Well, Victor dmukage, right, he is having a great start
Speaker 6: right this season. He met the media on Monday. I'm
Speaker 6: quoting now talking about Kaizer White quote he came to
Speaker 6: OTAs making plays, had to pick his first practice. Well
Speaker 6: respected guys know he takes the game seriously. I'm guessing
Speaker 6: if you want to play for Jonathan Gannon and Nick Rowlis,
Speaker 6: because you know them very well from your Philly you
Speaker 6: know season last year, you better take the game seriously
Speaker 6: to play god.
Speaker 1: It take it serious. So you're gonna be up out
Speaker 1: here for sure.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just gonna surmise.
Speaker 1: You tell me.
Speaker 5: There were certain players who stayed, and there are certain
Speaker 5: players who win.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 5: The guys who stayed are ultra serious about the game,
Speaker 5: are they not?
Speaker 1: Definitely? Definitely, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: So leadership comes in a lot of different forms and
Speaker 2: many many times it's not just what you say out
Speaker 2: on the field. Most of the time, as you've already
Speaker 2: said it's more about doing out on the field first.
Speaker 2: You have to do before you can say what the
Speaker 2: best leaders do and then say, for sure, the best
Speaker 2: leaders do first, and then they say, but they also
Speaker 2: aren't afraid to walk up on a teammate and say,
Speaker 2: what are you doing?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, like, what are you doing? Okay?
Speaker 1: Holding each they're accountable. How much of that do you do? Oh?
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I do that, you know when I
Speaker 8: need to. And you know, I feel like you got
Speaker 8: to know who you're doing it to as well, because
Speaker 8: some people might not react to it well. So you know,
Speaker 8: I feel like you just got to know your teammates
Speaker 8: and know you know how to bring out the best
Speaker 8: in them.
Speaker 6: Who are some of the good leaders when you were younger?
Speaker 6: You were a fourth round pick twenty eighteen by the Chargers.
Speaker 6: Who were some of the leaders on that team?
Speaker 8: You respond, Thomas Davis, uh Casey Hayward. He was probably
Speaker 8: one of the best guys I've been around, for sure.
Speaker 8: And then in Philly last year, Brandon Graham. Yeah, definitely
Speaker 8: a great leader. Well, Miss Davis. Thomas Davis, Yeah, I
Speaker 8: played with Carolina. He was the fastest lineback on the
Speaker 8: team two year, fifteen or whatever it was for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I played. He was a great leader. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: He is one of the greatest weak side great player
Speaker 2: in the history in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I agree with you. You could do
Speaker 1: it all right with you? After three A cl every man, Thomas, Yeah, yeah, wow.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 6: Well here's your defensive coordinator, Nick Rowlis, who played himself
Speaker 6: some inside linebacker at the University of Minnesota. Just on
Speaker 6: the growth of Kaizer White.
Speaker 11: He's taken a step as a leader in Philly. It
Speaker 11: was a very veteran group and he was you know,
Speaker 11: it was his first year there. He was new to it,
Speaker 11: so he didn't necessarily step into a leadership role. I
Speaker 11: feel like he's done that. He's always been a high energy,
Speaker 11: violent dude on the field that can run. It's just
Speaker 11: cool seeing him in the green dot, seeing him as
Speaker 11: a captain and a guy that's that's leading the charge.
Speaker 11: You know, I got a soft spot for Kaizier. You know,
Speaker 11: he's a really good teammate.
Speaker 5: And I love that about him. Right.
Speaker 6: So, James Connor, once upon a time was recruited as
Speaker 6: a defensive lineman defensive ended Pitt and now he's an.
Speaker 5: NFL running back. You were a high school receiver and
Speaker 5: quarner corner, yeah, and.
Speaker 6: Now you're an NFL middle linebacker. Just just take us
Speaker 6: through your evolution. Maybe maybe did you have a lake
Speaker 6: Gross Spurf, like what's going on?
Speaker 1: Definitely had a great lake Gross.
Speaker 8: I always been like the smallest on my team, like
Speaker 8: growing up my whole life. My dad was the same way.
Speaker 8: When he left for college, he was five five, came
Speaker 8: back after a year with six three. So, like, I
Speaker 8: was real frustrated in high school, Like my freshman year,
Speaker 8: I was probably like I want to say, five three maybe,
Speaker 8: And I was frustrated when him, like dad, you know
Speaker 8: all my brothers was tall. My little sister she was
Speaker 8: taller than me, So I was real frustrated. He was
Speaker 8: just like, you know, your time gonna come and you're
Speaker 8: gonna grow. And then going into my senior year, I
Speaker 8: started getting taller, so I started, you know, sprouting up
Speaker 8: and filling out more.
Speaker 2: You know for me though, guys here, you know, just
Speaker 2: that transformation. It's not just the physicality. It's not just
Speaker 2: your frame and how much you grew and how much
Speaker 2: bigger you got, things of that nature.
Speaker 1: That's a mentality shit.
Speaker 2: For sure, when you're going from wide receiver in corner
Speaker 2: to mike linebacker. And for me right now, this is
Speaker 2: just me and I know you know it. You're probably
Speaker 2: gonna know this people that are listening. Right, full back
Speaker 2: and like linebacker the toughest positions.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just saying right now, the topest position on
Speaker 1: the field. I agree with you.
Speaker 2: Now they don't meet as often as they once did
Speaker 2: left position, but you know, I mean talk about how
Speaker 2: do you go from being a wide receiver to a
Speaker 2: like linebacker mentality wise?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I got it. I'll come from a big family
Speaker 8: and you know, I'm one to seven and I'm the
Speaker 8: youngest boy. So uh, my dad and my brothers, they
Speaker 8: was always real rough and tough with me, so like
Speaker 8: we couldn't be no punks in our house. But I
Speaker 8: feel like that that helped me out a lot, you
Speaker 8: know what I mean. So yeah, I feel like that
Speaker 8: that really helped me.
Speaker 6: Well, your older brother, Kevin White was a top ten
Speaker 6: draft pick as a receiver, right right, and then you
Speaker 6: have another brother who played college ball.
Speaker 8: Yeah right, we played three out of four years together,
Speaker 8: Karan White.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, okay, So so this is all like, this
Speaker 6: is your life, guys, you're white because in March we
Speaker 6: had on your junior college coach Mark Dude once again,
Speaker 6: Wolf your former teammate.
Speaker 1: My teammate.
Speaker 2: He was my roommate on the road of course, whatever
Speaker 2: we travel, my rookie year, Mark Dudah one of my
Speaker 2: best friends even to this day right now, love Mark Dudah.
Speaker 2: But he was my he was my roommate. Man, w
Speaker 2: we would travel. Do you have roommates anymore when you
Speaker 2: go on the road. Maybe the rookies, maybe the rookies. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's in his contract, let me tell you. And it
Speaker 2: was across the NFL too. It was across the NFL
Speaker 2: where everybody had a room.
Speaker 1: My rookie year, I had a roommate and stuff.
Speaker 6: Okay, you go, okay, all right, So I'm going to
Speaker 6: screw up the name. So the name of the college.
Speaker 6: Mark Dudah has been the head coach at for thirty
Speaker 6: years and recently earned his two hundredth win.
Speaker 5: What's the name, Lackawana, Lackawanna. Here's Mark Dudah on Kayzer White.
Speaker 6: This is really our first introduction to the Cardinals starting
Speaker 6: middle linebacker Way back in March.
Speaker 12: Yeah, he's always been super enthusiastic. You'll call him on
Speaker 12: the phone and the son of the go pick the
Speaker 12: thing up and start talking about the game, like rafted
Speaker 12: games over Like that guy. I'm like, oh, here we go.
Speaker 12: He should have been born in like nineteen sixty one
Speaker 12: or something. You know that kind of you'll love him.
Speaker 12: I mean, he'll never have a day where he doesn't
Speaker 12: want to play.
Speaker 1: That's all just the way the kid is.
Speaker 12: You never have to tell the kid. Y'll come on,
Speaker 12: let's get it going.
Speaker 5: You're love of the game.
Speaker 1: Still there, Yeah, still there. It ain't never leave ing man.
Speaker 5: And he's not kidding, like you pick up the phone,
Speaker 5: you'll talk ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he not kidding.
Speaker 8: But he helped that too though, Like just being at Lakwana,
Speaker 8: he enforces that.
Speaker 1: How did he help you though do that? How did
Speaker 1: he help you make that adjustment? He had like a
Speaker 1: real strict policy. You know, we had mandatory breakfast.
Speaker 8: You miss that, you're gonna be up at five o'clock
Speaker 8: the next day running suicide. You late the practice, He's
Speaker 8: gonna discipline you. You know you don't have a what too?
Speaker 8: What was it maybe a three to zero or two
Speaker 8: seven and three zero g PA, You're not going to
Speaker 8: be on the team because you know, he, like I said,
Speaker 8: he give us another chance at life to you know,
Speaker 8: make our dreams come true to go Division one.
Speaker 1: So he was real.
Speaker 8: He made sure he disciplined this the right way at uh,
Speaker 8: you know, Lackawana, and I feel.
Speaker 1: Like he turned you know, boys to men. Man.
Speaker 2: I love hearing that, or really to itself. It's so
Speaker 2: so many stories. Football, of course, loves the wretched. I
Speaker 2: always say this loves the down trodden, loves the hungry
Speaker 2: that you want you put a mouthguard in a helmet
Speaker 2: on somebody that is hungry to go out and perform,
Speaker 2: and this game will love you, you know.
Speaker 1: And to me.
Speaker 2: I love the fact that it's also a very disciplined game.
Speaker 2: Isn't it part of who you are? Definitely there's a discipline.
Speaker 2: So how is j G when it comes to being
Speaker 2: disciplined with you guys, you know.
Speaker 1: We just all hold each other accountable.
Speaker 8: And the thing I like about JG and Rales is, uh,
Speaker 8: you know, they hold their themselves accountable as well. You know,
Speaker 8: before they call anybody else out, they call themselves out
Speaker 8: first in front of everybody. So I feel like, uh,
Speaker 8: maybe guys on the team maybe weren't used to that,
Speaker 8: you know, at different places they've been that. So I
Speaker 8: feel like they know they could trust, like these group
Speaker 8: of coaches that we got, because you know, you don't
Speaker 8: really see too many coaches doing nothing now.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, a lot of people like to point fingers and uh,
Speaker 8: you know JG and uh Rileis. You know, even since
Speaker 8: last year when I met him, they've been the same way.
Speaker 8: They called themselves out first before they start point fingers out.
Speaker 1: Ah. God.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So you mentioned your dream of getting a D one
Speaker 6: scholarship when he went to Lakawana eighteen nineteen year old
Speaker 6: Kaizier White. Could you have ever realistically dreamed of an
Speaker 6: NFL career at that point?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I did, not to sound cocky, but that's all
Speaker 8: I missed my own real life.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't want to donne us my whole life. Yeah.
Speaker 6: But when you finished collegeball, you were a safety, so
Speaker 6: were you kind of considered a tweiner?
Speaker 5: Did you have to show the NFL you could play linebacker?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I mean when I got drafted, Uh, Tom te LESCo
Speaker 8: called me from the charters the GM over there, and
Speaker 8: he was like, yeah, we want you to play linebacker.
Speaker 8: And I remember my brother keV, he was right by me.
Speaker 8: I mute at the fun I'm like, I'm back at that. Yeah,
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. But I'm like, man, let's
Speaker 8: let's do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I really wanted to play safety in the NFL, though.
Speaker 8: I think I could be a strong safety.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so yeah, no doubt. Yeah, wait, you still want
Speaker 5: to place I like linebacker?
Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah.
Speaker 8: When I was coming out, that's what I was likewounds
Speaker 8: when I was coming out.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Im Becker sounded kind of crazy to me
Speaker 1: at first.
Speaker 5: By the way, did you guys win or lose the
Speaker 5: backyard brawl?
Speaker 1: By the way, Oh we won? Yeah we won.
Speaker 5: Really West Virginia one. Huh, Mortgage, did you text Wolf?
Speaker 5: Did you text?
Speaker 1: Fits? Let him have it? He actually texted me in
Speaker 1: the middle of it. I'm just saying, that's good. That's
Speaker 1: how classy he is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's cool, that's good. You're right, Wolf, that's that's true.
Speaker 6: You know, you know you were just about to taste
Speaker 6: you know, text him, Hey, taste that fits. And then
Speaker 6: he was used class here in the absolutely check in
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Speaker 6: the left side, got a crease thirty thirty five, forty
Speaker 6: Connor forty five and Bindley putting down a bounds in
Speaker 6: the forty seven gives to Connor up right tackle for
Speaker 6: the twenty cutback left side fifteen to.
Speaker 4: Ten spins out of a tackle there, throw an arm
Speaker 4: tackle at the five and down at the floor twenty
Speaker 4: one yard game. James Connor calling for the crowd to
Speaker 4: celebrate his physicality.
Speaker 1: E five folds Fum said.
Speaker 4: James Corner gave the Connor off the left side and
Speaker 4: into the end zone for the first offensive tuckdown of
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three for the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Flat shovel, flat face, handed off to James Connor. Let
Speaker 1: him find the light and that's what he did.
Speaker 6: Great stuff, fashion wolf, great call there James Conner Great
Speaker 6: Game twenty three carries one hundred and six yards nearly
Speaker 6: five yards of carry. And I tell you, you know
Speaker 6: you're in the NFL when a guy the size and
Speaker 6: the brutality of James Connor is running the full fall.
Speaker 6: That's when you realize, Okay, yeah, we'll let those guys
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Speaker 5: Or the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 6: And I tell you what was amazing to me about Connor?
Speaker 6: And you hear this from a lot of guys, and
Speaker 6: you tell me true or false? Is that how many
Speaker 6: times late in second halfs of games? There are plenty
Speaker 6: of players who will turn it down for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 6: wearing a defense down can be.
Speaker 5: Very real, can it?
Speaker 1: Definitely? Man?
Speaker 5: And how do you know?
Speaker 6: How do you know when you're watching an opposing defense
Speaker 6: and Connor's doing his stuff?
Speaker 5: Can you just see it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know they turn it down. Hits jogging.
Speaker 8: You know you can tell they don't really, you know,
Speaker 8: want to keep tackling twenty four to seven.
Speaker 6: I'm not getting off this block. Oh boy, I'm getting
Speaker 6: blocked here. I can't get to the running back.
Speaker 1: So you definitely said, yeah, how what is it like.
Speaker 2: Though, guys there honestly to tackle because I know when
Speaker 2: you first started playing football, the rule of the helmet
Speaker 2: wasn't nearly as obvious as it is now. It just
Speaker 2: seems to be in your face literally where you can't
Speaker 2: hit a guy with your helmet right now. How how
Speaker 2: much of an adjustment has it been for you from
Speaker 2: when you first started playing tackle football to now tackling
Speaker 2: somebody in the National Football League.
Speaker 8: It's got to be night and day. Yeah, no, definitely, man.
Speaker 8: I feel like when I first started playing, everybody was
Speaker 8: out there just tackling recklessly and with the head and stuff,
Speaker 8: no penalties. But now it's like, you know, you get fined,
Speaker 8: you got a little.
Speaker 1: Thinking about it.
Speaker 2: When you're actually trying to tackle somebody, you're thinking about
Speaker 2: where you don't want to you don't want to think
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: I want to slow you down.
Speaker 8: But also you bet start thinking about it, you're gonna
Speaker 8: keep losing your money.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, there is thet I guess So.
Speaker 6: The other memory I have that James Connor in this
Speaker 6: game being on the sideline is after Josh Dobbs touchdown
Speaker 6: run twenty three yards and he jack stamps the pre
Speaker 6: safety at the goal line and Connor, I think he
Speaker 6: was the only guy more excited than Josh Dobbs. He
Speaker 6: was all animated on the sideline and he's yelling and
Speaker 6: pointing at his helmet saying, it's a mindset. It is,
Speaker 6: it's a mindset. What explaining that different? What does that
Speaker 6: mean when he says those words.
Speaker 8: It's just some everything you know, as a mindset of
Speaker 8: if you go out there and feel like you're you're
Speaker 8: gonna play a good game and you're a great player,
Speaker 8: you're gonna play like that. But you know if you
Speaker 8: go out there and not really confident in yourself on
Speaker 8: the field, that's gonna show as well. So you know,
Speaker 8: I feel like you are what you think. So I
Speaker 8: think with James just you know, saying that, you could
Speaker 8: tell this was like a different.
Speaker 1: Josh compared to the week one. You know, he got
Speaker 1: there late.
Speaker 8: You know, that's tough to go out there and start
Speaker 8: on Sunday against a great defense and watch it'son you
Speaker 8: know play at a high level. And I still think
Speaker 8: he did a great job for the short notice, but
Speaker 8: you could see that it was a big difference from
Speaker 8: week one and week two from him, and I think
Speaker 8: it's just all mindset.
Speaker 2: Can you put into words for people that are listening
Speaker 2: right now what that actually does for a football team
Speaker 2: when you got a guy that goes out there and
Speaker 2: trucks somebody out on the field.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think he set the tone for sure.
Speaker 8: Just seeing that's like, wow, you know a quarterback. You
Speaker 8: don't really see quarterbacks trying to run people over, so
Speaker 8: you know, to run over to safety and also score
Speaker 8: and you know, spike the ball as a defense, we're
Speaker 8: it's going to get on the field.
Speaker 2: For me, Paul, the most demoralizing thing that could happen
Speaker 2: to a football team is the other team lines up
Speaker 2: and runs the ball right down your throat.
Speaker 1: That to me, in the game of football.
Speaker 2: When we talk about mindset, when we talk about mentality,
Speaker 2: and you talk about physicality, you talk about we're trying
Speaker 2: to build this culture right now, when a team can
Speaker 2: line up and run the ball right down your throat
Speaker 2: ad nauseum, it's the most demoralizing thing that can happen to.
Speaker 1: You in a game.
Speaker 2: It really is, and it's something that I think James
Speaker 2: Connor has the ability to do for sure because of
Speaker 2: the fact that he will truck a guy.
Speaker 1: For sure. You talk about how bad is it's a
Speaker 1: real element. It's you know, yeah, mono e mono.
Speaker 8: Like you said, if somebody's just you know, running the
Speaker 8: ball thirty times, you know, during the game and you
Speaker 8: can't stop him, it's kind of like demoralizing as a defense. Yeah, So,
Speaker 8: like you said, I definitely think James is capable of
Speaker 8: doing that every week for sure.
Speaker 6: I can't tell you how many times I've seen the
Speaker 6: defense come off the bench when a running back for
Speaker 6: the Cardinals will truck someone, and then when that quarterback
Speaker 6: does it, they just go bananas. So Number two most
Speaker 6: frustrating might be you tell me, when you get an
Speaker 6: athletic quarterback who's really hard to contain. Yeah, what's that like?
Speaker 6: Because a lot of teams have that sort of athlete
Speaker 6: a quarterback.
Speaker 8: It just brings, you know, another dimension to the game
Speaker 8: that you gotta you know, worry about, Like you know,
Speaker 8: if you're playing Daniel Jones, Lamar Jackson and Jalen hurts
Speaker 8: somebody like that. He definitely got a key for HM
Speaker 8: where they can eat you up on the ground.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 2: Those quarterbacks you just mentioned right there, who's the toughest tackle,
Speaker 2: who's the tough.
Speaker 1: Dalen hurts something? Okay?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I tell you I wouldn't mind seeing Josh Dobbs
Speaker 6: run it more. He's one of the all time great
Speaker 6: duel threat quarterbacks in SEC history.
Speaker 5: He's right up there with the Luminaries in his career.
Speaker 5: He can really run. And then of course the Cardinals have.
Speaker 6: QB one K one, Yeah, who might be the most
Speaker 6: athletic quarterback he is in the league.
Speaker 5: And I bring that up because.
Speaker 6: Kyler, well, Wolf alerted this us to it because Wolf's
Speaker 6: all over TikTok so so Wolf saw that the TikTok
Speaker 6: video of Kyler's workout, okay, and and on the workout
Speaker 6: he put the words, look, I've never missed the game
Speaker 6: like this, I mentioning to get back, you learn a
Speaker 6: lot about yourself. And we had a chance to ask
Speaker 6: zach Ertz about that, because the two of them rehab
Speaker 6: together a lot in the offseason about just how they
Speaker 6: helped each other in the process.
Speaker 13: Right, And we're here every day we saw each other,
Speaker 13: We pushed each other, we supported each other.
Speaker 5: No one else saw that.
Speaker 13: But at the same time, it's the price that you
Speaker 13: have to pay to get back to being great.
Speaker 1: It's not easy.
Speaker 13: It's not what you want to do by any means.
Speaker 13: It's not what you sign up for when you play
Speaker 13: football to deal with these long term injuries.
Speaker 1: But it's part of the game.
Speaker 13: And I was lucky to have him in my corner
Speaker 13: and throughout the entire rehab process, and I hope he
Speaker 13: feels the same.
Speaker 5: How curious, How intrigued are you to eventually play with
Speaker 5: Kyler Murray?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I'm very intrigued.
Speaker 8: You know, he'd been beating up on me since I've
Speaker 8: been playing against him, you know, in college and stuff
Speaker 8: like that, because he went to Oklahoma, so you know,
Speaker 8: both in the Big twelve. So I'm definitely intrigued to
Speaker 8: see what he did.
Speaker 2: So, you know, coming off a serious injury, of course,
Speaker 2: that always is going to mess with you.
Speaker 1: There's there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 2: I would say, just any kind of injury, you have
Speaker 2: to be even if you go out there and roll
Speaker 2: an ankle, you have to be sure mentally once you
Speaker 2: back out on the field that it's not going to
Speaker 2: roll again. You have to have You ever dealt with
Speaker 2: that kind of mindset and injuries. What worst injury that
Speaker 2: you had?
Speaker 8: Oh, I messed my moniscus up and tore a PCL. Okay,
Speaker 8: and I did that at Lakawana, So like that was
Speaker 8: like a did you get surgery? I didn't get. There's
Speaker 8: the thing PCL. You just kind of let a hill
Speaker 8: on the holl. But it was still messing with me.
Speaker 8: When I got to West Virginia, I had to wear
Speaker 8: like a big a CL brace and stuff like that.
Speaker 8: So I just had to get over to like the middle. Uh,
Speaker 8: you know, the hurdle of it. Yeah, for sure. And
Speaker 8: then I was like dragging my leg because I had
Speaker 8: to brace and I wasn't used to using that. So yeah,
Speaker 8: but once I got over that, I was back to myself.
Speaker 6: And of course, another perennial pro bowler that you're without
Speaker 6: right now Buddha Baker. He's got the hamstring injury. He's
Speaker 6: gonna be going for at least the next four games.
Speaker 6: Just quantify the loss of Buddha to this defense.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, that's a huge loss. You know, he's the
Speaker 8: leader on this defense. He's been here for what seven years?
Speaker 8: Pro Bowl guy, one of the best afeties in the game.
Speaker 8: You know, a relentless guy. You know, great leader, great player,
Speaker 8: you know, even better person. So you know, it's definitely
Speaker 8: a big loss.
Speaker 6: What have you admired about his game in a few
Speaker 6: months you've been with the team, What have you admired
Speaker 6: about just watching him play?
Speaker 8: Because like, when I stand by him, he seemed like
Speaker 8: a real little guy, and then you know he put
Speaker 8: the pads on and stuff like that. He's just fearless,
Speaker 8: relentless anybody, he don't care how big or small. So yeah,
Speaker 8: that's what I really admire about him.
Speaker 1: It's one of the things I loved the moves to.
Speaker 2: I mean, we had defensive coordinators here that would call
Speaker 2: it running into the darkness, would run the darkness. I
Speaker 2: love that. That's who he is. There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 5: He's from Seattle. What was it two years ago?
Speaker 6: Three years ago he knocked out to Seattle running backs
Speaker 6: in the same game. I Mean, it's like, where where
Speaker 6: does he get this ability? He's definitely for sure, he
Speaker 6: is fearless, for sure. In fact, I'm not so sure.
Speaker 6: In the second half of that game last week at
Speaker 6: boot us out there, maybe just maybe there's a bit
Speaker 6: of a different outcome.
Speaker 5: We'll talk about that. We'll talk about the Cowboys.
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Speaker 6: The Cowboys Radio Network Brad Sham there Dak Prescott thirty
Speaker 6: one to thirty eight, two fifty five, two touchdowns, no picks,
Speaker 6: a passer rating a one to twelve plus.
Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty efficient. In a win against the Jets.
Speaker 6: Cowboys are two and zero and they are up next
Speaker 6: at State from Stadium on Sunday, we are talking to
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Speaker 6: we all see the Cowboys. We can't help but see
Speaker 6: the Cowboys. They get all the national media attention. Okay,
Speaker 6: ad nauseum. But what do you see on film with
Speaker 6: this offense? Because really the defense is beginning most of
Speaker 6: the headlines. Yeah, yeah, what do you see in this
Speaker 6: Cowboys offense?
Speaker 8: You know, I think Dak Prescott is doing a really
Speaker 8: good job, you know with the offense. I feel like
Speaker 8: Tony Polard is playing really well. And you know, they
Speaker 8: got a great receiver in Ceedee Lamb. So I feel
Speaker 8: like they got a real, you know, explosive offense and
Speaker 8: I'm looking forward to the challenge.
Speaker 2: Boy, there are so many things I want to ask
Speaker 2: you about the offense right now, but I'm gonna start
Speaker 2: with their offensive line. Okay, Tyron Smith, of course, yes, exactly,
Speaker 2: Zach Martin, this is still a very good offensive line
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: Would you agree with that?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I definitely, Yeah, I definitely agree. You know, they're gritty,
Speaker 8: you know, like you said, they got two Hall of
Speaker 8: Famers on that offensive line.
Speaker 1: They're very well coached and they just play the game
Speaker 1: and right way. Do they use a lot of power
Speaker 1: scheme or is it more zone scheme? What do you
Speaker 1: use a little bit a little bit of both.
Speaker 8: I feel like the Cowboys they always just want to,
Speaker 8: you know, play mono a mono football, and you know,
Speaker 8: I feel like they take their pros. You know, we're
Speaker 8: better than you, bigger, stronger than you, and uh, you know,
Speaker 8: I feel like they play like real real football man.
Speaker 2: Do you think they run more vertically than they do horizontally?
Speaker 8: I think they mix it up. They mix it up.
Speaker 8: They're gonna do a lot of different things for scheme, Yeah,
Speaker 8: zone stretches, stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like they got a good mix of everything.
Speaker 1: Do they ever go to back? Yeah? Yeah they do?
Speaker 1: Here and okay, get a full back in there? Is
Speaker 1: that what you're saying? No, heir and there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be a tight end actually lined up,
Speaker 2: by the way, Paul It tries me crazy.
Speaker 1: It's just ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Well, the reason being is because they don't really block
Speaker 2: like a full they don't.
Speaker 1: And you know this, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: They go with no more man, that's right.
Speaker 2: They go in there tight ends, folks, when they run
Speaker 2: a nice how I'm just telling you right now, they're
Speaker 2: they're playing Patty Cake for the ball.
Speaker 1: Spark full back is gonna go in there?
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, see I got to step in here
Speaker 6: at some point, guys here, because Paul, it's the true
Speaker 6: half the teams in the league don't even carry a
Speaker 6: full back today.
Speaker 1: Okay, this the wolf.
Speaker 5: Half the players in the Hall of Fame would be
Speaker 5: full backs.
Speaker 2: By the way, Paul, there are eighteen teams that actually
Speaker 2: have a full back listing on the roster.
Speaker 5: I'm talking about here.
Speaker 6: Here's you know, I like to talk about the silacious Okay,
Speaker 6: the sensational with the Dallas Cowboys. Do you hear Jerry
Speaker 6: Jones went on his radio show and he took a
Speaker 6: shot at Mike mc carthy because Tony Pollard in a
Speaker 6: blowout game, got ten.
Speaker 5: Touches in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I didn't even hear that.
Speaker 6: So Jerry Jones went on the air and said, I
Speaker 6: don't know why we're wearing out our running back in
Speaker 6: the fourth corner.
Speaker 1: And so there's still the Cowboys.
Speaker 6: Okay, they still So with all that going on, here's
Speaker 6: your defensive coordinator, Nick rawlis just on facing quarterback Dak Prescott.
Speaker 11: Dak can beat you, drop him back, he can beat
Speaker 11: you throwing quick game, he can beat you play action,
Speaker 11: boot getting out of the pocket, throwing in the pocket,
Speaker 11: throwing on time, not on time, extending plays like That's
Speaker 11: hard to defend when people are not one dimensional is
Speaker 11: pick your poison, what do you want to take away?
Speaker 11: And whatever you end up taking away, you better do
Speaker 11: a good job with the other things and winning your
Speaker 11: point of attack one on one. So Dak is well rounded.
Speaker 11: He's playing really efficient right now.
Speaker 6: So there's Nick Rowlis, your defensive coordinator. And you're not
Speaker 6: going to say it, but I will. I mean, Dak
Speaker 6: Prescott can be really good or he can be really
Speaker 6: the opposite. Here's a guy who led the NFL in
Speaker 6: interceptions last year and he did it in only twelve game.
Speaker 6: So you know, what do you have to do against
Speaker 6: Dak Prescott? To what degree is he a threat to
Speaker 6: get out of the pocket like a Daniel Jones. What
Speaker 6: are the keys here? I think he'll surprise you with
Speaker 6: his feet.
Speaker 8: I definitely think he can get out of the pocket
Speaker 8: like a Daniel Jones. I feel like he's a I
Speaker 8: feel like he's a good quarterback man. I know he
Speaker 8: get a lot of screwtiney, but I feel like he's
Speaker 8: a good quarterback. I know he you know, threw a
Speaker 8: lot of interceptions last year. Hopefully he could give us
Speaker 8: a lot this Sunday. But yeah, I feel like he's
Speaker 8: a good quarterback man. I went throw no shade at him.
Speaker 2: What do you think about their third down offense so
Speaker 2: much of the time situational? Yeah, offensive defense is so important.
Speaker 2: How do they look on third down?
Speaker 1: I think they look good.
Speaker 8: I feel like they got a lot of good pieces
Speaker 8: on the offensive vent and I feel like overall they're
Speaker 8: just a well, you know, rounded team.
Speaker 6: And then you have Michaeh Parsons. I know he doesn't
Speaker 6: play on the opposite side of the ball, but here's
Speaker 6: a guy who I mean, he's leading the NFL in
Speaker 6: several categories. All the analytics are all about Michaeh Parsons.
Speaker 6: He's never been more confident. They asked him after you
Speaker 6: had a bigger game against the Jets, right after the
Speaker 6: game on the field NFL network, when don't you know
Speaker 6: you're gonna take over the game? And his answer was
Speaker 6: on camera Monday. So he comes in and, uh, they'll.
Speaker 1: Move him anywhere.
Speaker 6: How unique is that in the NFL. They'll take a
Speaker 6: guy and they'll literally put him anywhere in the front seven.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think he, like you said, uh,
Speaker 8: you know, he's a jack all trades. He could do everything,
Speaker 8: specially talent. And you know, I know a lot of
Speaker 8: people that know him and they say a lot of
Speaker 8: good things about him.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's definitely a great player.
Speaker 2: You know, that's so difficult I think about it right now.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that look at Michael Parsons
Speaker 2: and they say he's he's the next Lawrence Taylor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what dad is. Do you remember LT?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, seriously, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Man, I can tell you right now, Lawrence Taylor was
Speaker 2: the greatest football player that ever played.
Speaker 1: That's just my opinion, right.
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald closing the game, Well, you know, Aaron Donald
Speaker 2: is really really good. There's no doubt about that he's excellent,
Speaker 2: but LT changed the game. Yeah, so he changed the
Speaker 2: game complete how offensive coordinators blocked, the slide protection of
Speaker 2: the offensive line, and what you had to do to
Speaker 2: actually play.
Speaker 1: You couldn't block LT with a running back, you could
Speaker 1: not do it.
Speaker 2: He dominated his era when he played, and he's still
Speaker 2: I think could step into the NFL tite right now,
Speaker 2: dominate right now.
Speaker 1: Michaeh.
Speaker 2: Parsons is a different body type though, for sure, he's
Speaker 2: a different cat for all together. Man, So he does
Speaker 2: remind me a lot because I do think there's gonna
Speaker 2: be a lot of teams that are going to look
Speaker 2: for a Michaeh. Parsons type coming out of college. Oh,
Speaker 2: he's a Micah Parsons. Where it was find the next
Speaker 2: del team, find the next LT.
Speaker 1: We have to do that.
Speaker 2: I think the NFL is going to be saying, find
Speaker 2: the next Micah Parsons.
Speaker 6: The thing is, it took him thirty years to find
Speaker 6: the next LTE and Michael Parsons, you know, It's what
Speaker 6: This whole start of the season is like a reunion
Speaker 6: tour for you, NFC East.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy, I mean, like going.
Speaker 5: Against these these teams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I like it.
Speaker 8: I love the NSC east Man for like, that's a
Speaker 8: great uh you know conference, and yeah, man.
Speaker 1: It's dope for you know, play against us.
Speaker 6: You still have beef with some of the other guys
Speaker 6: across the last scriptge from last year. I ain't gonna
Speaker 6: say that.
Speaker 1: Uh you know.
Speaker 8: I definitely learned to hate, you know, the cowboys as
Speaker 8: being a pelly last year.
Speaker 1: And my parents, my dad and my brother's.
Speaker 6: The cowboys man, So I did give me a little
Speaker 6: little little as you.
Speaker 2: Know, everybody hates the cowboys with the star on their helmet.
Speaker 1: For sure. It did make a nice target though.
Speaker 6: Definitely, well, that's a great way to end it. There's
Speaker 6: no doubt on your hatred for the Cowboys. That's a
Speaker 6: great way to Kaiser White.
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