WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Kyzir White Adds Physicality To Defense 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.559 Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:06.680 Hold ahead, he got jacked. 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:12.000 This is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:12.479 and Gilbert. 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:16.400 Harry's gonna score touchdown. 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We will do it live, Wolf 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:10.399 and on location. 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.119 I'll write the intro. Remember the bill, O'Reilly rant. I'll 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:17.200 write the intro and we'll do it live, and we'll 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:19.240 do it in front of the Bird Gang right here, 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:23.880 a live audience. As the Big Red Rage rolls again, 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.600 does it not here at the top golf swing suite 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:30.440 inside He River Resorts in Casino, Wild Horse Pass, Paul 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:32.280 calvec Ron, Wolfley, and. 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:33.639 A very special guest. 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:36.440 We're gonna get to here momentarily, but first wolf we 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:38.800 want to make sure you're ready to go. I see 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.039 your dinner plate. You've already had dinner served here. So 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:43.240 that's a good indicator, early indicator. 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:45.640 That's right, Paul. I didn't dig into it right now. 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:47.840 You know you cannot dive into it right now. You 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:50.400 gotta wait for the break. Of course, that thing's gonna 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:53.360 be gone during the break. I just want everybody to 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:56.640 know that. Man, it's good to see you all out here. 0:01:57.880 --> 0:01:59.640 That's what I'm talking about. 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:03.240 It is real and it is spectacular. 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:03.760 Is it not? 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:06.640 The Big Red Rage and our very special guest here 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:09.120 to kick off this season in front of a live audience. 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:10.160 I don't know. 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:13.400 How about the Cardinals leading tackler. How about a guy 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:17.200 who just passed four hundred career tackles, a guy who's 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:20.880 a team captain, a guy who's been identified as getting 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.000 among the most respect in that locker room. Everybody, please 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:27.840 help us welcome kay Zier White to the Big Red Rage. 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:29.400 Was that by Santan ford O. 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:32.800 Yeah, thanks for having me. I appreciate you, guys. Thank you. 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:36.079 First off, is there a conspiracy here Wolf, something happened 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.240 behind the scenes where the first guest we book is 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:39.440 a West Virginia guy. 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.440 Yeah, he's I know, I don't know if well, listen, 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:44.240 I did not book him. I can tell you that much. 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.519 But he's definitely one of my favorite players. And it's 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:51.320 not just because of the West Virginia West by God Virginia, 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:54.200 as we like to say, right there, don't don't make 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:59.239 me signifights on release, We'll go to break. It's also 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.960 because he was coached at a junior college by my 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:08.160 first NFL roommate, Mark Dudah. Mark Dudah, who was a 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:11.720 defensive tackle for the Saint Louis Cardinals, came out here 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.120 played in Phoenix. As a matter of fact, with the 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:17.919 Phoenix Cardinals all the way back in nineteen eighty eight. 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:22.480 Mark Dudah. So we got a connection, guys, this small world. 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:26.240 Indeed, tell me about Mark Duty, your memories of him. 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:30.079 Yeah, you know, he's just a real inceensed guy. He's 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:30.880 just a great person. 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:31.080 You know. 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:34.480 He gave me a second chance at life. That's how 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.280 I like to look at it because you know, coming 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:38.720 out of high school, I couldn't get you know, any 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.640 offers because I was slacking in school and not taking 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:44.200 it serious. So you know, me and all my brothers, 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:46.680 he gave us a second chance at life. We always say, we, 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:48.960 you know, still keep in contact with him. You know, 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:50.120 he changed our lives. 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:52.600 And guess what back in March when you signed it's 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:54.920 an unrestricted free agent. We had Mark Dudah on the 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:56.640 show on the Big Red Rage. A little bit later, 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:58.840 we'll get into that in depth. We'll hear from your 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:02.400 former junior college coach and Wolfe's roommate during training camp. 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:05.200 We'll get into all that. See, we're the original Thursday 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:08.000 night football. That's the way we like that. Okay, all right, 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:11.000 forget this whole Niners Giants game going on, but you 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:14.240 see the Giants and what are you thinking of after 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:16.040 that game in Week two? 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.560 You know, it's definitely frustrating because I feel like in 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:21.919 the first half, we came out, you know, blazing on 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:25.600 all cylinders, you know, defensively, special teams and offensively. 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.520 I feel like we're playing, you know, very well. 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.320 And I just think we relaxed a little bit, and 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:33.440 you know, they came out in the second half and 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:35.760 you know, punched us in the mouth, and uh, you know, 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:38.000 got to win over it. So it definitely a little 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.400 you know, frustrating because as two weeks in a row, 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:43.040 we felt like we just let it slip, you know. 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:45.599 You know, first of all, just to hear you say that, 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:49.440 it warms my heart as a former player to come 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:52.600 out and say, hey, listen, we may have relaxed a 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.600 little bit in that second half because we were dominating 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.000 the first half. I know there's a lot of people 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.719 who will not understand that. I'm not one of them, 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:03.320 because I will understand how that happens because you're a 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:06.159 human being, Right, That's how that happens. Right, You go 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:08.680 out there and you're pounding the other team and you 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:12.760 feel very, very confident. Nobody made a conscious decision to 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.520 go out and say, let's relax, guys, we're okay, We're 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.760 gonna be fine. Nobody ever makes that a decision, a 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:23.599 conscious decision. But that happens because you're a human being. 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.720 From time to time, I love the accountability. You have 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:31.279 to speak the truth after you lose, and that's what you're. 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.560 Doing right now. It's really important to you, isn't it. 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:35.240 Yeah, for sure, man, I feel like that's just the 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:37.320 only way you keep growing and keep getting better. 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:41.760 That's accountability times ten. And it started with your coach 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:42.920 for sure, all right. 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:44.479 And that's a great segue, he goes. 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:48.080 Here's Jonathan Gannon describing that game, talking to the media 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:49.960 after the thirty one twenty eight. 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.440 Loss tailor two halfs and we got a coach and 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:54.600 play better. You know, in the second half we had 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:56.440 a lead and we lost the lead and didn't do 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:59.719 enough to win a game. All three phases goes into that, 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:05.080 and complomary football goes into that, and our guys know what, 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.520 we got to get done and improve that quickly if 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.520 we think we're going to close out Lee's and get 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:11.320 some wins here. 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:14.040 You know, I don't have to tell you, but the 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:16.040 rookies and I think in the locker room are finding 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:18.880 out that more than half the NFL games are one 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:21.080 score games. You have to figure out a way to 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.440 win those close games. You gotta finish. 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:24.479 Yeah, you gotta finish. 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:27.359 Yeah, I mean start, yeah, you gotta start good and 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:29.040 you know, finish. 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.679 And to me, and this is my theory, did the Cardinals, relax, 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:32.680 take their foot off the gas. 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:34.719 Okay, but I think the Giants at. 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:36.920 Twenty eight to seven said, you know what, we're going 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:38.760 to the forty nine ers next on Thursday night. And 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:41.920 like the urgency in that Giant sideline went through the 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:43.920 roof because they were staring zero to three, starving in 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:44.279 the face. 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:46.479 Definitely, man, for sure. You know, you just felt it 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:46.880 out there. 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:49.400 It was like we're playing a totally different team in 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:50.159 the second half. 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:52.279 You know, I sip my hat offs on. You know, 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:53.800 they came out, you know, beat us. 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:57.520 So kay's here, you're you're the guy. You're the bike linebacker. 0:06:57.560 --> 0:06:59.800 Of course that makes a lot of the calls. You 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:03.080 may all the calls, as far as I'm concerned, correct, correct, Yeah, 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:07.520 it's okay. Really smart guy here, Okay, really smart guy 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:11.280 that is sitting here. He makes all the checks, all 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:15.440 the calls. How different were the calls in the checks 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:17.520 in the second half than the first half. 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.680 I'm going to say it was much different. You know, 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:22.920 they were just trying to speed the pace up and stuff. 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:25.600 They try to just go hurry up and you know, 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:27.720 kind of get us out of whack a little bit. 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:30.080 But I want to say the calls are that different 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.600 or anything. You know, we we pretty much stick to 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:33.400 the script for. 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:36.160 A lot of times. It's about execution, isn't it. For sure? 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:38.840 Going out there and doing your job for sure. 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.040 Well, and if you're looking for one stat according to 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.400 Nick rollis your defensive coordinator and the head coach, they 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.640 had zero explosives in the first half. 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:47.760 They had like nine nine to the second half. 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:49.640 Right, that was crazy. Yeah, And of course a lot 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:52.200 of that just getting to the quarterback. And once you 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.600 guys did Daniel Jones, I don't know if he ran 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:55.920 the forty at the combine. 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:57.360 He's quicker than he looks. 0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:00.320 Maybe a lot faster than he looks. Sure he was 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.160 pulling away from guys. Yeah, long strider, Yeah, he definitely 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:03.840 has speak. 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:05.920 I was impressed by that. 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:08.520 In fact, you know, Calvic consulting here at the poly 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:12.200 Pigskin Division, May I surmise that maybe the Cardinals should 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.360 get Josh Dobbs out running a little bit. One of 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:18.520 the all time great SEC dual threat quarterbacks as well. 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:20.280 I'd love to see him. We saw what he did 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.320 on a twenty three or touchdown roll. We'll get into that. 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:25.440 In fact, here's Dobbs, and just look what he's learned. 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:27.880 He's in year seven, what he's learned, and what has 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:29.920 to happen now coming off a loss like that. 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.840 Got stick together figure out ways to continue to get better. 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:38.119 He continued to dig into our playbooks, dig into our preparation, 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:41.199 finding ways to improve our bodies so that we're able 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.880 to come out and get the job done next Sunday, give. 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:45.360 Us a quick word on your quarterback. 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:48.080 Because he's never made three starts in a row in 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.080 his NFL career. He got two starts his first two starts. Ever, 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.560 at the end of last season, he vowed after Week 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:55.480 one of Washington there would be a big improvement, in 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:57.440 his words, quote a huge jump he did. He went 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.480 up twenty points in his passer rating. What do you 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:01.880 see at him those first two weeks and even this 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:02.880 week in practice? 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:06.200 I just think he's real, like calm to me, like 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:09.160 even if things get chaotic, I never really see him flinch. 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:11.439 It just looks like he's been there before. 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.400 I mean, I would have never known he only started 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:14.559 two games if you didn't say that. 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:17.640 He just seem, you know, real prepared. I always see him. 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:20.440 I always see him in there early and late you 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.120 could just tell he's a true pro. 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.000 Talk a little bit about the defensive line, because how 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.120 much of an impact do you think that had on 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:31.640 the second half when Carlos Watkins went out of that game. 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:35.360 Of course, you already were missing Lucky Fotu and LJ. Collier. 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:39.560 You're already missing those guys right now injury. You're banged 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:43.880 up right there. There's a relative inexperience out there as well. 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:47.880 Dante Stills, of course, our West Virginia guy. Yes, he's 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.080 out there, you know, but he's a rookie. He's finding 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:53.480 his way. How much of that really had an impact 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:55.960 on that defense? And how you guys played in the 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:56.640 second half? 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:58.680 Oh yeah, you know, we had guys, sir, But we 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:02.560 don't never want to use that as an excuse but reason. Yeah, 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:03.920 but you know, we try to look at it as 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:07.160 next man, you know up mentality and just keep trying 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:10.000 to keep you know, pushing forward and uh just putting 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:11.320 our you know, best foot forward. 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:14.199 What's it what's it like to tackle Saquon Barkley. 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:16.000 Yeah, he a great player. 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:17.839 I've been playing against him since high school from the 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.440 same area, so wow, he's a great player. You know, 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.680 he definitely a challenge. Uh, you know, every time I 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:24.520 play against him all you know, I like the battle 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:24.959 for sure. 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:28.199 So when you say from the same area, what I mean, 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:30.439 same town or it's. 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.880 Down like ten minutes from my same same conference in 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:34.800 football all through high. 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.199 School, it's just Pennsylvania. 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.920 Where Yeah, Pennsylvania, Lehigh Valley, Pennsylvania. 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.240 Okay, all right, So I mean you're on a first 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:45.000 name basis when you're trash talking Saquon across the line, 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:45.920 this bit you. 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:48.240 Respect, that's my dog. Yeah, we're cool. We're cool with 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:48.600 each other. 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:51.960 Of course, a lot of people know Kaizer White. Just 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.160 when everyone's like, okay, welcome Kaizier. He gave a nice 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:58.760 welcome to Sam Howell early in the Washington game Week one, 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:02.920 and I was on that sideline and that hit reverberated 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.240 in more ways than one. 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:06.800 I can't tell you how many guys said. 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:09.319 That set the tone for the rest of that game 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:11.920 in a lot of ways, for the Cardinals identity on defense. 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.880 Just take us through that play and that big hit 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:16.200 on the Washington quarterback. 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.320 You know he just started scrambling, and you know he's young, 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:23.320 you know, his first start. You know, I just wanted 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.240 to slow him down a little bit. Put a guy, 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:26.880 you know, just put a good lick on him a 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.560 little bit, just to you know, try to set the 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:30.120 tone early. 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.599 But yeah, you don't have fine for that. 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:34.920 Yeah, And so I know, I don't want to make 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:36.840 light of it, okay, but it might. 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:40.000 Have been money well invested in some ways and the 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:42.480 identity this defense. Maybe it showed up on film. I 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.600 know the Giants cited it going into that game. But 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.880 how tough is it to tackle a quarterback in today's NFL? 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:49.200 Yeah? 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:50.720 Sorry, because I feel like you just got to go 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:52.680 up there and you kind of got to think about 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:54.040 how you're going to hit him, and it kind of 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:55.080 handicap you. 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:56.920 I want to say, slow you down a lot. 0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:59.679 You know, you hit him too low penalty, you hit 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:04.079 you are penalty, You hit him up high penalty, right, 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:05.960 and then if you don't hit him, they'll just like 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.800 two years ago when I was with the Chargers, you know, 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:12.120 let up on a quarterback and he scored. Uh it's 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.200 the guy that Broncos quarterbacks years younger guy he's with 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:17.280 Jul jew Luck. 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.200 Yeah score. So wow, I got to learn my lessons. 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:24.320 Don't get me started. Yeah, don't get me started. I'm sorry, man, 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.920 It just honestly, right now, the way they protect quarterbacks, 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:29.720 they've gone overboard. 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:31.679 They have in my opinion. 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:35.880 Well, and look, Josh Shabbs Jack stopped the free safety 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:37.680 at the goal line, right, but you can't tell me 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:38.520 that free safety is out. 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:39.600 They thought he was gonna slide. 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:41.160 Is he gonna slide? Is he gonna No, he's not 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:42.160 gonna slide. Now it's too late. 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:45.440 Yeah, you had a dis event. You got a disavente Hey. 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.360 Episode sixty four of the Day Pash Podcast featuring former 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.959 quarterback ESPN College Football and US Craig McElroy, available now 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.160 wherever you get your podcasts on Twitter at pash pod. 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:59.240 We continue, we'll talk more about this old West Virginia thing, 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:03.240 exactly how you went from a receiver in dB in 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.720 high school to an NFL middle linebacker. I want that 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.200 answer on the Big Red Rage with Kaiser White, brought 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.000 to you by Santan Ford in Gilbert. 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:17.040 Kaiser White, just up the temple for everybody out on 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:19.520 this shield right now between the White Lions. 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:21.360 What are you going to do about A message has 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:21.800 been sent? 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:23.679 What is that message? David? 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:28.880 That messages we will fight you and Kaiser White's a thumber. 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:31.800 He has been all over the field and he is 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:33.480 a physical guy as well. 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.920 Kaizer White boy turned on the Jets to get to 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.840 the quarterback. Yeah, Kaiser White and run him flying in 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:41.480 there at the end is Kaizer White. 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.440 It's a culture of physicality, is what this is about. 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:46.920 He's a very physical player and one of the reasons 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:51.040 why the Cardinals wanted to bring him over when Jonathan Gannon. 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:53.360 Got the job. What a big play by Kaizier White. 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.440 Kaiser White getting off and awful lot of blocks right 0:13:56.440 --> 0:14:01.640 now and making tackles, hit and sacked by Kaiser Kaizer White, 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:08.000 Manhunter track in back, Kaizer White. 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.719 Ash and Wolf on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. Two 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.040 games into this season. Let's see nine tackles a team 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:17.640 I against Washington. Seven tackles in a sack against the Giants. 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:21.040 Cardinals starting middle linebacker Kaizer White is our guest. It 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.480 is the Big Red Rage presented by Santanford and Gilbert 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.720 Live from the Top Golf Swing Suite inside Hila River 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:31.640 Resorts and Casino, Wild Horse Pass, Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley. 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:32.960 So let's see Wolf here. 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.320 If you're gonna go ahead and you're searching for a 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:38.600 mic linebacker. You want to check the box of speed 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:42.840 sideline to sideline. Gotta have speed, Paul, Okay, thumper, as 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:44.840 Dave Pash said, right there, not that Dave would know 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:46.960 anything about that thumper okay. 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.960 Also known as a dirt liquor. PAULM I see somebody 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.280 that is low to the ground and will hit. 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.760 You and then able to wear the green dot and 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.000 called the defense and make all the checks. 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:58.480 All right, smart high IQ. 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:01.720 So okay, I guess those of the three boxes, Kaizier 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:04.120 you need to check for your job description. 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:05.080 Yes, sir, yeah, definitely. Man. 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.600 You know not only that too, I would say leader. 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:11.040 Have you always been a leader? 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:11.440 Yeah? 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.520 I would assume so, but just a lead by example guy. 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.200 I don't really like to do too much talk. And 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:19.200 then I talk when when I need to. But you know, 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:20.960 I never wanted to beat those guys, one of those 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:24.080 guys that just talk and don't you know, I have 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:25.800 it show up on the field. So I'll just you know, 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:27.000 I try to lead by example. 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:28.640 I was just gonna say, like, can you give us 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:33.080 an instance as to how bad happens, how that actually happens? 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.320 Your leadership is it out on the field. 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:38.040 Typically, yeah, out on the field, but you know you 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.440 practice field. Me is just trying to do things the 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:42.960 right way. And for like younger guys, when they see 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.040 you doing things the right way, they just gonna follow you. 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:48.560 Well, Victor dmukage, right, he is having a great start 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:50.920 right this season. He met the media on Monday. I'm 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:54.240 quoting now talking about Kaizer White quote he came to 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:58.240 OTAs making plays, had to pick his first practice. Well 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:03.520 respected guys know he takes the game seriously. I'm guessing 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:05.840 if you want to play for Jonathan Gannon and Nick Rowlis, 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:07.960 because you know them very well from your Philly you 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:10.560 know season last year, you better take the game seriously 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:11.720 to play god. 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:13.200 It take it serious. So you're gonna be up out 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:14.080 here for sure. 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:15.960 I mean, I'm just gonna surmise. 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:16.440 You tell me. 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.520 There were certain players who stayed, and there are certain 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:20.240 players who win. 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:20.920 For sure. 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:23.720 The guys who stayed are ultra serious about the game, 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:24.160 are they not? 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.080 Definitely? Definitely, yeah, for sure. 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:30.560 So leadership comes in a lot of different forms and 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:33.640 many many times it's not just what you say out 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.840 on the field. Most of the time, as you've already 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.960 said it's more about doing out on the field first. 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.760 You have to do before you can say what the 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:46.760 best leaders do and then say, for sure, the best 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:50.720 leaders do first, and then they say, but they also 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:54.560 aren't afraid to walk up on a teammate and say, 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:55.280 what are you doing? 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:58.960 You know what I mean, like, what are you doing? Okay? 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:03.000 Holding each they're accountable. How much of that do you do? Oh? 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:04.960 Yeah, you know, I do that, you know when I 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:07.000 need to. And you know, I feel like you got 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:09.280 to know who you're doing it to as well, because 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:12.000 some people might not react to it well. So you know, 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:13.600 I feel like you just got to know your teammates 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:15.480 and know you know how to bring out the best 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:15.840 in them. 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:18.240 Who are some of the good leaders when you were younger? 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.120 You were a fourth round pick twenty eighteen by the Chargers. 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:22.920 Who were some of the leaders on that team? 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:27.639 You respond, Thomas Davis, uh Casey Hayward. He was probably 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:29.960 one of the best guys I've been around, for sure. 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:33.200 And then in Philly last year, Brandon Graham. Yeah, definitely 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:36.720 a great leader. Well, Miss Davis. Thomas Davis, Yeah, I 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:40.359 played with Carolina. He was the fastest lineback on the 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:42.680