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Speaker 4: Harry's gonna score touchdown. Slim to the ground by Buddha Baker.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul CALVICI.

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Speaker 5: I'm ready.

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Speaker 6: I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready.

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Speaker 6: And Ron Wookley, it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Get any better than that.

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Speaker 7: Leash your darn toot. We will do it live, Wolf

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Speaker 7: and on location.

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Speaker 6: I'll write the intro. Remember the bill, O'Reilly rant. I'll

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Speaker 6: write the intro and we'll do it live, and we'll

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Speaker 6: do it in front of the Bird Gang right here,

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Speaker 6: a live audience. As the Big Red Rage rolls again,

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Speaker 6: does it not here at the top golf swing suite

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Speaker 6: inside He River Resorts in Casino, Wild Horse Pass, Paul

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Speaker 6: calvec Ron, Wolfley, and.

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Speaker 5: A very special guest.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna get to here momentarily, but first wolf we

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Speaker 6: want to make sure you're ready to go. I see

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Speaker 6: your dinner plate. You've already had dinner served here. So

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Speaker 6: that's a good indicator, early indicator.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Paul. I didn't dig into it right now.

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Speaker 2: You know you cannot dive into it right now. You

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Speaker 2: gotta wait for the break. Of course, that thing's gonna

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Speaker 2: know that. Man, it's good to see you all out here.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 5: It is real and it is spectacular.

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Speaker 1: Is it not?

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Speaker 6: The Big Red Rage and our very special guest here

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Speaker 6: to kick off this season in front of a live audience.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: How about the Cardinals leading tackler. How about a guy

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Speaker 6: who just passed four hundred career tackles, a guy who's

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Speaker 6: a team captain, a guy who's been identified as getting

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Speaker 6: among the most respect in that locker room. Everybody, please

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Speaker 6: help us welcome kay Zier White to the Big Red Rage.

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Speaker 5: Was that by Santan ford O.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for having me. I appreciate you, guys. Thank you.

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Speaker 6: First off, is there a conspiracy here Wolf, something happened

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Speaker 6: behind the scenes where the first guest we book is

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Speaker 6: a West Virginia guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's I know, I don't know if well, listen,

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Speaker 2: Indeed, tell me about Mark Duty, your memories of him.

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Speaker 8: He gave me a second chance at life. That's how

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Speaker 8: You know, it's definitely frustrating because I feel like in

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Speaker 1: Doing right now. It's really important to you, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: That's accountability times ten. And it started with your coach

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Speaker 9: Loss tailor two halfs and we got a coach and

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Speaker 6: And to me, and this is my theory, did the Cardinals, relax,

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Speaker 8: It was like we're playing a totally different team in

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Speaker 1: You know, I sip my hat offs on. You know,

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Speaker 2: So kay's here, you're you're the guy. You're the bike linebacker.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times. It's about execution, isn't it. For sure?

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Speaker 1: Going out there and doing your job for sure.

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Speaker 6: Well, and if you're looking for one stat according to

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Speaker 5: They had like nine nine to the second half.

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Speaker 6: Right, that was crazy. Yeah, And of course a lot

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Speaker 5: He's quicker than he looks.

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Speaker 6: In fact, you know, Calvic consulting here at the poly

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Speaker 5: In fact, here's Dobbs, and just look what he's learned.

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Speaker 6: He's in year seven, what he's learned, and what has

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Speaker 10: Got stick together figure out ways to continue to get better.

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Speaker 10: He continued to dig into our playbooks, dig into our preparation,

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Speaker 5: Us a quick word on your quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Because he's never made three starts in a row in

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Speaker 6: at the end of last season, he vowed after Week

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Speaker 8: I just think he's real, like calm to me, like

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Speaker 8: even if things get chaotic, I never really see him flinch.

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Speaker 1: It just looks like he's been there before.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I would have never known he only started

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Speaker 8: two games if you didn't say that.

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Speaker 1: He just seem, you know, real prepared. I always see him.

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Speaker 8: I always see him in there early and late you

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Speaker 2: the second half when Carlos Watkins went out of that game.

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Speaker 1: Of course, you already were missing Lucky Fotu and LJ. Collier.

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Speaker 8: Sorry, because I feel like you just got to go

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Speaker 1: I want to say, slow you down a lot.

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Speaker 8: You know, you hit him too low penalty, you hit

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Speaker 2: Yeah score. So wow, I got to learn my lessons.

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Speaker 6: Well, and look, Josh Shabbs Jack stopped the free safety

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Speaker 1: They thought he was gonna slide.

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Speaker 5: Is he gonna slide? Is he gonna No, he's not

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Speaker 6: We continue, we'll talk more about this old West Virginia thing,

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Speaker 6: exactly how you went from a receiver in dB in

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Speaker 6: answer on the Big Red Rage with Kaiser White, brought

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Speaker 2: Kaiser White, just up the temple for everybody out on

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Speaker 5: What are you going to do about A message has

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Speaker 1: What is that message? David?

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Speaker 4: That messages we will fight you and Kaiser White's a thumber.

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Speaker 1: He has been all over the field and he is

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Speaker 4: Kaizer White boy turned on the Jets to get to

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Speaker 1: It's a culture of physicality, is what this is about.

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Speaker 4: He's a very physical player and one of the reasons

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Speaker 5: Got the job. What a big play by Kaizier White.

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Speaker 2: Kaiser White getting off and awful lot of blocks right

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Speaker 2: now and making tackles, hit and sacked by Kaiser Kaizer White,

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Speaker 6: games into this season. Let's see nine tackles a team

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Speaker 6: I against Washington. Seven tackles in a sack against the Giants.

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Speaker 6: Cardinals starting middle linebacker Kaizer White is our guest. It

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Speaker 5: So let's see Wolf here.

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Speaker 6: If you're gonna go ahead and you're searching for a

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Speaker 6: sideline to sideline. Gotta have speed, Paul, Okay, thumper, as

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Speaker 6: Dave Pash said, right there, not that Dave would know

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Speaker 2: Also known as a dirt liquor. PAULM I see somebody

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Speaker 6: You and then able to wear the green dot and

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Speaker 5: All right, smart high IQ.

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Speaker 6: So okay, I guess those of the three boxes, Kaizier

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, yeah, definitely. Man.

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Speaker 2: You know not only that too, I would say leader.

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Speaker 2: Have you always been a leader?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I would assume so, but just a lead by example guy.

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Speaker 1: Your leadership is it out on the field.

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Speaker 8: Typically, yeah, out on the field, but you know you

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Speaker 1: It take it serious. So you're gonna be up out

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, like, what are you doing? Okay?

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Speaker 6: Who are some of the good leaders when you were younger?

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Speaker 6: You were a fourth round pick twenty eighteen by the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I played. He was a great leader. Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 6: Well here's your defensive coordinator, Nick Rowlis, who played himself

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Speaker 11: He's taken a step as a leader in Philly. It

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Speaker 6: Now you're an NFL middle linebacker. Just just take us

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Speaker 8: just like, you know, your time gonna come and you're

440
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Speaker 8: gonna grow. And then going into my senior year, I

441
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Speaker 8: started getting taller, so I started, you know, sprouting up

442
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Speaker 8: and filling out more.

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Speaker 2: You know for me though, guys here, you know, just

444
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Speaker 2: that transformation. It's not just the physicality. It's not just

445
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Speaker 2: your frame and how much you grew and how much

446
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Speaker 2: bigger you got, things of that nature.

447
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Speaker 1: That's a mentality shit.

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Speaker 2: For sure, when you're going from wide receiver in corner

449
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Speaker 2: to mike linebacker. And for me right now, this is

450
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Speaker 2: just me and I know you know it. You're probably

451
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Speaker 2: gonna know this people that are listening. Right, full back

452
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Speaker 2: and like linebacker the toughest positions.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just saying right now, the topest position on

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Speaker 1: the field. I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: Now they don't meet as often as they once did

456
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Speaker 2: left position, but you know, I mean talk about how

457
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Speaker 2: do you go from being a wide receiver to a

458
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Speaker 2: like linebacker mentality wise?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I got it. I'll come from a big family

460
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Speaker 8: and you know, I'm one to seven and I'm the

461
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Speaker 8: youngest boy. So uh, my dad and my brothers, they

462
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Speaker 8: was always real rough and tough with me, so like

463
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Speaker 8: we couldn't be no punks in our house. But I

464
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Speaker 8: feel like that that helped me out a lot, you

465
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Speaker 8: know what I mean. So yeah, I feel like that

466
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Speaker 8: that really helped me.

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Speaker 6: Well, your older brother, Kevin White was a top ten

468
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Speaker 6: draft pick as a receiver, right right, and then you

469
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Speaker 6: have another brother who played college ball.

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Speaker 8: Yeah right, we played three out of four years together,

471
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Speaker 8: Karan White.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, okay, So so this is all like, this

473
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Speaker 6: is your life, guys, you're white because in March we

474
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Speaker 6: had on your junior college coach Mark Dude once again,

475
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Speaker 6: Wolf your former teammate.

476
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Speaker 1: My teammate.

477
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Speaker 2: He was my roommate on the road of course, whatever

478
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Speaker 2: we travel, my rookie year, Mark Dudah one of my

479
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Speaker 2: best friends even to this day right now, love Mark Dudah.

480
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Speaker 2: But he was my he was my roommate. Man, w

481
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Speaker 2: we would travel. Do you have roommates anymore when you

482
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Speaker 2: go on the road. Maybe the rookies, maybe the rookies. Okay, yeah,

483
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Speaker 2: it's in his contract, let me tell you. And it

484
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 2: was across the NFL too. It was across the NFL

485
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Speaker 2: where everybody had a room.

486
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Speaker 1: My rookie year, I had a roommate and stuff.

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Speaker 6: Okay, you go, okay, all right, So I'm going to

488
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Speaker 6: screw up the name. So the name of the college.

489
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Speaker 6: Mark Dudah has been the head coach at for thirty

490
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Speaker 6: years and recently earned his two hundredth win.

491
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Speaker 5: What's the name, Lackawana, Lackawanna. Here's Mark Dudah on Kayzer White.

492
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Speaker 6: This is really our first introduction to the Cardinals starting

493
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Speaker 6: middle linebacker Way back in March.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, he's always been super enthusiastic. You'll call him on

495
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Speaker 12: the phone and the son of the go pick the

496
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Speaker 12: thing up and start talking about the game, like rafted

497
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 12: games over Like that guy. I'm like, oh, here we go.

498
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Speaker 12: He should have been born in like nineteen sixty one

499
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Speaker 12: or something. You know that kind of you'll love him.

500
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Speaker 12: I mean, he'll never have a day where he doesn't

501
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Speaker 12: want to play.

502
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Speaker 1: That's all just the way the kid is.

503
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Speaker 12: You never have to tell the kid. Y'll come on,

504
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 12: let's get it going.

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Speaker 5: You're love of the game.

506
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Speaker 1: Still there, Yeah, still there. It ain't never leave ing man.

507
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Speaker 5: And he's not kidding, like you pick up the phone,

508
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Speaker 5: you'll talk ball.

509
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he not kidding.

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Speaker 8: But he helped that too though, Like just being at Lakwana,

511
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Speaker 8: he enforces that.

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Speaker 1: How did he help you though do that? How did

513
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Speaker 1: he help you make that adjustment? He had like a

514
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Speaker 1: real strict policy. You know, we had mandatory breakfast.

515
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Speaker 8: You miss that, you're gonna be up at five o'clock

516
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 8: the next day running suicide. You late the practice, He's

517
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Speaker 8: gonna discipline you. You know you don't have a what too?

518
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Speaker 8: What was it maybe a three to zero or two

519
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Speaker 8: seven and three zero g PA, You're not going to

520
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Speaker 8: be on the team because you know, he, like I said,

521
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Speaker 8: he give us another chance at life to you know,

522
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Speaker 8: make our dreams come true to go Division one.

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Speaker 1: So he was real.

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Speaker 8: He made sure he disciplined this the right way at uh,

525
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Speaker 8: you know, Lackawana, and I feel.

526
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Speaker 1: Like he turned you know, boys to men. Man.

527
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Speaker 2: I love hearing that, or really to itself. It's so

528
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: so many stories. Football, of course, loves the wretched. I

529
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 2: always say this loves the down trodden, loves the hungry

530
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Speaker 2: that you want you put a mouthguard in a helmet

531
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Speaker 2: on somebody that is hungry to go out and perform,

532
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Speaker 2: and this game will love you, you know.

533
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Speaker 1: And to me.

534
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Speaker 2: I love the fact that it's also a very disciplined game.

535
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Speaker 2: Isn't it part of who you are? Definitely there's a discipline.

536
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Speaker 2: So how is j G when it comes to being

537
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Speaker 2: disciplined with you guys, you know.

538
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Speaker 1: We just all hold each other accountable.

539
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Speaker 8: And the thing I like about JG and Rales is, uh,

540
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Speaker 8: you know, they hold their themselves accountable as well. You know,

541
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Speaker 8: before they call anybody else out, they call themselves out

542
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Speaker 8: first in front of everybody. So I feel like, uh,

543
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Speaker 8: maybe guys on the team maybe weren't used to that,

544
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 8: you know, at different places they've been that. So I

545
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 8: feel like they know they could trust, like these group

546
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Speaker 8: of coaches that we got, because you know, you don't

547
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 8: really see too many coaches doing nothing now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, a lot of people like to point fingers and uh,

550
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 8: you know JG and uh Rileis. You know, even since

551
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,239
Speaker 8: last year when I met him, they've been the same way.

552
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Speaker 8: They called themselves out first before they start point fingers out.

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Speaker 1: Ah. God.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So you mentioned your dream of getting a D one

556
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Speaker 6: scholarship when he went to Lakawana eighteen nineteen year old

557
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Speaker 6: Kaizier White. Could you have ever realistically dreamed of an

558
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Speaker 6: NFL career at that point?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I did, not to sound cocky, but that's all

561
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Speaker 8: I missed my own real life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't want to donne us my whole life. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: But when you finished collegeball, you were a safety, so

564
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Speaker 6: were you kind of considered a tweiner?

565
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Speaker 5: Did you have to show the NFL you could play linebacker?

566
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I mean when I got drafted, Uh, Tom te LESCo

568
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 8: called me from the charters the GM over there, and

569
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Speaker 8: he was like, yeah, we want you to play linebacker.

570
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Speaker 8: And I remember my brother keV, he was right by me.

571
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Speaker 8: I mute at the fun I'm like, I'm back at that. Yeah,

572
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Speaker 8: you know what I mean. But I'm like, man, let's

573
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Speaker 8: let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I really wanted to play safety in the NFL, though.

576
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Speaker 8: I think I could be a strong safety.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so yeah, no doubt. Yeah, wait, you still want

578
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Speaker 5: to place I like linebacker?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah.

580
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Speaker 8: When I was coming out, that's what I was likewounds

581
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Speaker 8: when I was coming out.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, Im Becker sounded kind of crazy to me

583
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Speaker 1: at first.

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Speaker 5: By the way, did you guys win or lose the

585
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Speaker 5: backyard brawl?

586
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Speaker 1: By the way, Oh we won? Yeah we won.

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Speaker 5: Really West Virginia one. Huh, Mortgage, did you text Wolf?

588
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Speaker 5: Did you text?

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Speaker 1: Fits? Let him have it? He actually texted me in

590
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Speaker 1: the middle of it. I'm just saying, that's good. That's

591
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Speaker 1: how classy he is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's cool, that's good. You're right, Wolf, that's that's true.

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Speaker 6: You know, you know you were just about to taste

594
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Speaker 6: you know, text him, Hey, taste that fits. And then

595
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Speaker 6: he was used class here in the absolutely check in

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Speaker 6: the left side, got a crease thirty thirty five, forty

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Speaker 6: Connor forty five and Bindley putting down a bounds in

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Speaker 6: the forty seven gives to Connor up right tackle for

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Speaker 6: the twenty cutback left side fifteen to.

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Speaker 4: Ten spins out of a tackle there, throw an arm

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Speaker 4: tackle at the five and down at the floor twenty

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Speaker 4: one yard game. James Connor calling for the crowd to

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Speaker 4: celebrate his physicality.

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Speaker 1: E five folds Fum said.

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Speaker 4: James Corner gave the Connor off the left side and

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Speaker 4: into the end zone for the first offensive tuckdown of

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty three for the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: Flat shovel, flat face, handed off to James Connor. Let

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Speaker 1: him find the light and that's what he did.

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Speaker 6: Great stuff, fashion wolf, great call there James Conner Great

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Speaker 6: Game twenty three carries one hundred and six yards nearly

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Speaker 6: five yards of carry. And I tell you, you know

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Speaker 6: you're in the NFL when a guy the size and

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Speaker 6: the brutality of James Connor is running the full fall.

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Speaker 6: That's when you realize, Okay, yeah, we'll let those guys

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Speaker 5: Or the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 6: And I tell you what was amazing to me about Connor?

630
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Speaker 6: And you hear this from a lot of guys, and

631
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Speaker 6: you tell me true or false? Is that how many

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Speaker 6: times late in second halfs of games? There are plenty

633
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Speaker 6: of players who will turn it down for sure. Yeah,

634
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 6: wearing a defense down can be.

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Speaker 5: Very real, can it?

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Speaker 1: Definitely? Man?

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Speaker 5: And how do you know?

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00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 6: How do you know when you're watching an opposing defense

639
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Speaker 6: and Connor's doing his stuff?

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Speaker 5: Can you just see it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You know they turn it down. Hits jogging.

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Speaker 8: You know you can tell they don't really, you know,

644
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 8: want to keep tackling twenty four to seven.

645
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 6: I'm not getting off this block. Oh boy, I'm getting

646
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 6: blocked here. I can't get to the running back.

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Speaker 1: So you definitely said, yeah, how what is it like.

648
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Speaker 2: Though, guys there honestly to tackle because I know when

649
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: you first started playing football, the rule of the helmet

650
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 2: wasn't nearly as obvious as it is now. It just

651
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 2: seems to be in your face literally where you can't

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Speaker 2: hit a guy with your helmet right now. How how

653
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Speaker 2: much of an adjustment has it been for you from

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Speaker 2: when you first started playing tackle football to now tackling

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Speaker 2: somebody in the National Football League.

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Speaker 8: It's got to be night and day. Yeah, no, definitely, man.

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Speaker 8: I feel like when I first started playing, everybody was

658
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Speaker 8: out there just tackling recklessly and with the head and stuff,

659
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 8: no penalties. But now it's like, you know, you get fined,

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Speaker 8: you got a little.

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Speaker 1: Thinking about it.

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Speaker 2: When you're actually trying to tackle somebody, you're thinking about

663
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Speaker 2: where you don't want to you don't want to think

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 1: I want to slow you down.

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Speaker 8: But also you bet start thinking about it, you're gonna

667
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Speaker 8: keep losing your money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, there is thet I guess So.

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Speaker 6: The other memory I have that James Connor in this

670
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Speaker 6: game being on the sideline is after Josh Dobbs touchdown

671
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Speaker 6: run twenty three yards and he jack stamps the pre

672
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Speaker 6: safety at the goal line and Connor, I think he

673
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Speaker 6: was the only guy more excited than Josh Dobbs. He

674
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Speaker 6: was all animated on the sideline and he's yelling and

675
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Speaker 6: pointing at his helmet saying, it's a mindset. It is,

676
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Speaker 6: it's a mindset. What explaining that different? What does that

677
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Speaker 6: mean when he says those words.

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Speaker 8: It's just some everything you know, as a mindset of

679
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Speaker 8: if you go out there and feel like you're you're

680
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Speaker 8: gonna play a good game and you're a great player,

681
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Speaker 8: you're gonna play like that. But you know if you

682
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Speaker 8: go out there and not really confident in yourself on

683
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Speaker 8: the field, that's gonna show as well. So you know,

684
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Speaker 8: I feel like you are what you think. So I

685
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Speaker 8: think with James just you know, saying that, you could

686
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Speaker 8: tell this was like a different.

687
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Speaker 1: Josh compared to the week one. You know, he got

688
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Speaker 1: there late.

689
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Speaker 8: You know, that's tough to go out there and start

690
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Speaker 8: on Sunday against a great defense and watch it'son you

691
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Speaker 8: know play at a high level. And I still think

692
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Speaker 8: he did a great job for the short notice, but

693
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Speaker 8: you could see that it was a big difference from

694
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Speaker 8: week one and week two from him, and I think

695
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Speaker 8: it's just all mindset.

696
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Speaker 2: Can you put into words for people that are listening

697
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Speaker 2: right now what that actually does for a football team

698
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Speaker 2: when you got a guy that goes out there and

699
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Speaker 2: trucks somebody out on the field.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think he set the tone for sure.

701
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Speaker 8: Just seeing that's like, wow, you know a quarterback. You

702
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Speaker 8: don't really see quarterbacks trying to run people over, so

703
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Speaker 8: you know, to run over to safety and also score

704
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Speaker 8: and you know, spike the ball as a defense, we're

705
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Speaker 8: it's going to get on the field.

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Speaker 2: For me, Paul, the most demoralizing thing that could happen

707
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Speaker 2: to a football team is the other team lines up

708
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Speaker 2: and runs the ball right down your throat.

709
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Speaker 1: That to me, in the game of football.

710
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Speaker 2: When we talk about mindset, when we talk about mentality,

711
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: and you talk about physicality, you talk about we're trying

712
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 2: to build this culture right now, when a team can

713
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Speaker 2: line up and run the ball right down your throat

714
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: ad nauseum, it's the most demoralizing thing that can happen to.

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Speaker 1: You in a game.

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Speaker 2: It really is, and it's something that I think James

717
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Speaker 2: Connor has the ability to do for sure because of

718
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Speaker 2: the fact that he will truck a guy.

719
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Speaker 1: For sure. You talk about how bad is it's a

720
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Speaker 1: real element. It's you know, yeah, mono e mono.

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Speaker 8: Like you said, if somebody's just you know, running the

722
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Speaker 8: ball thirty times, you know, during the game and you

723
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Speaker 8: can't stop him, it's kind of like demoralizing as a defense. Yeah, So,

724
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Speaker 8: like you said, I definitely think James is capable of

725
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Speaker 8: doing that every week for sure.

726
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Speaker 6: I can't tell you how many times I've seen the

727
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Speaker 6: defense come off the bench when a running back for

728
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Speaker 6: the Cardinals will truck someone, and then when that quarterback

729
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Speaker 6: does it, they just go bananas. So Number two most

730
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Speaker 6: frustrating might be you tell me, when you get an

731
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Speaker 6: athletic quarterback who's really hard to contain. Yeah, what's that like?

732
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Speaker 6: Because a lot of teams have that sort of athlete

733
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Speaker 6: a quarterback.

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Speaker 8: It just brings, you know, another dimension to the game

735
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Speaker 8: that you gotta you know, worry about, Like you know,

736
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Speaker 8: if you're playing Daniel Jones, Lamar Jackson and Jalen hurts

737
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Speaker 8: somebody like that. He definitely got a key for HM

738
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Speaker 8: where they can eat you up on the ground.

739
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Speaker 1: For sure.

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Speaker 2: Those quarterbacks you just mentioned right there, who's the toughest tackle,

741
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Speaker 2: who's the tough.

742
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Speaker 1: Dalen hurts something? Okay?

743
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I tell you I wouldn't mind seeing Josh Dobbs

744
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 6: run it more. He's one of the all time great

745
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Speaker 6: duel threat quarterbacks in SEC history.

746
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Speaker 5: He's right up there with the Luminaries in his career.

747
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Speaker 5: He can really run. And then of course the Cardinals have.

748
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Speaker 6: QB one K one, Yeah, who might be the most

749
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Speaker 6: athletic quarterback he is in the league.

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Speaker 5: And I bring that up because.

751
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Speaker 6: Kyler, well, Wolf alerted this us to it because Wolf's

752
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 6: all over TikTok so so Wolf saw that the TikTok

753
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 6: video of Kyler's workout, okay, and and on the workout

754
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 6: he put the words, look, I've never missed the game

755
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 6: like this, I mentioning to get back, you learn a

756
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 6: lot about yourself. And we had a chance to ask

757
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Speaker 6: zach Ertz about that, because the two of them rehab

758
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 6: together a lot in the offseason about just how they

759
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Speaker 6: helped each other in the process.

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Speaker 13: Right, And we're here every day we saw each other,

761
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Speaker 13: We pushed each other, we supported each other.

762
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Speaker 5: No one else saw that.

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Speaker 13: But at the same time, it's the price that you

764
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Speaker 13: have to pay to get back to being great.

765
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Speaker 1: It's not easy.

766
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Speaker 13: It's not what you want to do by any means.

767
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Speaker 13: It's not what you sign up for when you play

768
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Speaker 13: football to deal with these long term injuries.

769
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Speaker 1: But it's part of the game.

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Speaker 13: And I was lucky to have him in my corner

771
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Speaker 13: and throughout the entire rehab process, and I hope he

772
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Speaker 13: feels the same.

773
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Speaker 5: How curious, How intrigued are you to eventually play with

774
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Speaker 5: Kyler Murray?

775
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Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I'm very intrigued.

776
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Speaker 8: You know, he'd been beating up on me since I've

777
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 8: been playing against him, you know, in college and stuff

778
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Speaker 8: like that, because he went to Oklahoma, so you know,

779
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 8: both in the Big twelve. So I'm definitely intrigued to

780
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Speaker 8: see what he did.

781
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Speaker 2: So, you know, coming off a serious injury, of course,

782
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: that always is going to mess with you.

783
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Speaker 1: There's there's no doubt about that.

784
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Speaker 2: I would say, just any kind of injury, you have

785
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Speaker 2: to be even if you go out there and roll

786
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 2: an ankle, you have to be sure mentally once you

787
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: back out on the field that it's not going to

788
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: roll again. You have to have You ever dealt with

789
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: that kind of mindset and injuries. What worst injury that

790
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Speaker 2: you had?

791
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Speaker 8: Oh, I messed my moniscus up and tore a PCL. Okay,

792
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 8: and I did that at Lakawana, So like that was

793
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 8: like a did you get surgery? I didn't get. There's

794
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 8: the thing PCL. You just kind of let a hill

795
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 8: on the holl. But it was still messing with me.

796
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 8: When I got to West Virginia, I had to wear

797
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Speaker 8: like a big a CL brace and stuff like that.

798
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Speaker 8: So I just had to get over to like the middle. Uh,

799
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 8: you know, the hurdle of it. Yeah, for sure. And

800
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 8: then I was like dragging my leg because I had

801
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 8: to brace and I wasn't used to using that. So yeah,

802
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 8: but once I got over that, I was back to myself.

803
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Speaker 6: And of course, another perennial pro bowler that you're without

804
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 6: right now Buddha Baker. He's got the hamstring injury. He's

805
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 6: gonna be going for at least the next four games.

806
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 6: Just quantify the loss of Buddha to this defense.

807
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, that's a huge loss. You know, he's the

808
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 8: leader on this defense. He's been here for what seven years?

809
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 8: Pro Bowl guy, one of the best afeties in the game.

810
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 8: You know, a relentless guy. You know, great leader, great player,

811
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Speaker 8: you know, even better person. So you know, it's definitely

812
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 8: a big loss.

813
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Speaker 6: What have you admired about his game in a few

814
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 6: months you've been with the team, What have you admired

815
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Speaker 6: about just watching him play?

816
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Speaker 8: Because like, when I stand by him, he seemed like

817
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 8: a real little guy, and then you know he put

818
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 8: the pads on and stuff like that. He's just fearless,

819
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 8: relentless anybody, he don't care how big or small. So yeah,

820
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Speaker 8: that's what I really admire about him.

821
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Speaker 1: It's one of the things I loved the moves to.

822
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Speaker 2: I mean, we had defensive coordinators here that would call

823
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: it running into the darkness, would run the darkness. I

824
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 2: love that. That's who he is. There's no doubt about it.

825
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Speaker 5: He's from Seattle. What was it two years ago?

826
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Speaker 6: Three years ago he knocked out to Seattle running backs

827
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Speaker 6: in the same game. I Mean, it's like, where where

828
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 6: does he get this ability? He's definitely for sure, he

829
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 6: is fearless, for sure. In fact, I'm not so sure.

830
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Speaker 6: In the second half of that game last week at

831
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 6: boot us out there, maybe just maybe there's a bit

832
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Speaker 6: of a different outcome.

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Speaker 5: We'll talk about that. We'll talk about the Cowboys.

834
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835
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Speaker 1: How about that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty efficient. In a win against the Jets.

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Speaker 6: Cowboys are two and zero and they are up next

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Speaker 6: we all see the Cowboys. We can't help but see

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Speaker 6: the Cowboys. They get all the national media attention. Okay,

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Speaker 6: ad nauseum. But what do you see on film with

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Speaker 6: this offense? Because really the defense is beginning most of

867
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Speaker 6: the headlines. Yeah, yeah, what do you see in this

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Speaker 6: Cowboys offense?

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Speaker 8: You know, I think Dak Prescott is doing a really

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Speaker 8: good job, you know with the offense. I feel like

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Speaker 8: Tony Polard is playing really well. And you know, they

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Speaker 8: got a great receiver in Ceedee Lamb. So I feel

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Speaker 8: like they got a real, you know, explosive offense and

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Speaker 8: I'm looking forward to the challenge.

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Speaker 2: Boy, there are so many things I want to ask

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Speaker 2: you about the offense right now, but I'm gonna start

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Speaker 2: with their offensive line. Okay, Tyron Smith, of course, yes, exactly,

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Speaker 2: Zach Martin, this is still a very good offensive line

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: Would you agree with that?

881
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I definitely, Yeah, I definitely agree. You know, they're gritty,

882
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 8: you know, like you said, they got two Hall of

883
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Speaker 8: Famers on that offensive line.

884
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Speaker 1: They're very well coached and they just play the game

885
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Speaker 1: and right way. Do they use a lot of power

886
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: scheme or is it more zone scheme? What do you

887
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: use a little bit a little bit of both.

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Speaker 8: I feel like the Cowboys they always just want to,

889
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Speaker 8: you know, play mono a mono football, and you know,

890
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 8: I feel like they take their pros. You know, we're

891
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 8: better than you, bigger, stronger than you, and uh, you know,

892
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 8: I feel like they play like real real football man.

893
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: Do you think they run more vertically than they do horizontally?

894
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Speaker 8: I think they mix it up. They mix it up.

895
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 8: They're gonna do a lot of different things for scheme, Yeah,

896
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 8: zone stretches, stuff like that.

897
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like they got a good mix of everything.

898
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Speaker 1: Do they ever go to back? Yeah? Yeah they do?

899
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Speaker 1: Here and okay, get a full back in there? Is

900
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Speaker 1: that what you're saying? No, heir and there?

901
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be a tight end actually lined up,

902
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Speaker 2: by the way, Paul It tries me crazy.

903
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Speaker 1: It's just ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Well, the reason being is because they don't really block

905
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Speaker 2: like a full they don't.

906
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Speaker 1: And you know this, you know what I'm talking about.

907
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 1: They go with no more man, that's right.

908
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Speaker 2: They go in there tight ends, folks, when they run

909
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 2: a nice how I'm just telling you right now, they're

910
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 2: they're playing Patty Cake for the ball.

911
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: Spark full back is gonna go in there?

912
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Speaker 6: Okay, all right, see I got to step in here

913
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Speaker 6: at some point, guys here, because Paul, it's the true

914
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Speaker 6: half the teams in the league don't even carry a

915
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Speaker 6: full back today.

916
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Speaker 1: Okay, this the wolf.

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Speaker 5: Half the players in the Hall of Fame would be

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Speaker 5: full backs.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Paul, there are eighteen teams that actually

920
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Speaker 2: have a full back listing on the roster.

921
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Speaker 5: I'm talking about here.

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Speaker 6: Here's you know, I like to talk about the silacious Okay,

923
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 6: the sensational with the Dallas Cowboys. Do you hear Jerry

924
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Speaker 6: Jones went on his radio show and he took a

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Speaker 6: shot at Mike mc carthy because Tony Pollard in a

926
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Speaker 6: blowout game, got ten.

927
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Speaker 5: Touches in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, I didn't even hear that.

929
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Speaker 6: So Jerry Jones went on the air and said, I

930
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Speaker 6: don't know why we're wearing out our running back in

931
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Speaker 6: the fourth corner.

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Speaker 1: And so there's still the Cowboys.

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Speaker 6: Okay, they still So with all that going on, here's

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Speaker 6: your defensive coordinator, Nick rawlis just on facing quarterback Dak Prescott.

935
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Speaker 11: Dak can beat you, drop him back, he can beat

936
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 11: you throwing quick game, he can beat you play action,

937
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 11: boot getting out of the pocket, throwing in the pocket,

938
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,959
Speaker 11: throwing on time, not on time, extending plays like That's

939
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 11: hard to defend when people are not one dimensional is

940
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Speaker 11: pick your poison, what do you want to take away?

941
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Speaker 11: And whatever you end up taking away, you better do

942
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Speaker 11: a good job with the other things and winning your

943
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 11: point of attack one on one. So Dak is well rounded.

944
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:45,959
Speaker 11: He's playing really efficient right now.

945
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Speaker 6: So there's Nick Rowlis, your defensive coordinator. And you're not

946
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Speaker 6: going to say it, but I will. I mean, Dak

947
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Speaker 6: Prescott can be really good or he can be really

948
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Speaker 6: the opposite. Here's a guy who led the NFL in

949
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Speaker 6: interceptions last year and he did it in only twelve game.

950
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Speaker 6: So you know, what do you have to do against

951
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 6: Dak Prescott? To what degree is he a threat to

952
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 6: get out of the pocket like a Daniel Jones. What

953
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 6: are the keys here? I think he'll surprise you with

954
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Speaker 6: his feet.

955
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Speaker 8: I definitely think he can get out of the pocket

956
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 8: like a Daniel Jones. I feel like he's a I

957
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 8: feel like he's a good quarterback man. I know he

958
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 8: get a lot of screwtiney, but I feel like he's

959
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 8: a good quarterback. I know he you know, threw a

960
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 8: lot of interceptions last year. Hopefully he could give us

961
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 8: a lot this Sunday. But yeah, I feel like he's

962
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 8: a good quarterback man. I went throw no shade at him.

963
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: What do you think about their third down offense so

964
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 2: much of the time situational? Yeah, offensive defense is so important.

965
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,479
Speaker 2: How do they look on third down?

966
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: I think they look good.

967
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 8: I feel like they got a lot of good pieces

968
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 8: on the offensive vent and I feel like overall they're

969
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 8: just a well, you know, rounded team.

970
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 6: And then you have Michaeh Parsons. I know he doesn't

971
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 6: play on the opposite side of the ball, but here's

972
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 6: a guy who I mean, he's leading the NFL in

973
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 6: several categories. All the analytics are all about Michaeh Parsons.

974
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 6: He's never been more confident. They asked him after you

975
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 6: had a bigger game against the Jets, right after the

976
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 6: game on the field NFL network, when don't you know

977
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 6: you're gonna take over the game? And his answer was

978
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 6: on camera Monday. So he comes in and, uh, they'll.

979
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: Move him anywhere.

980
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 6: How unique is that in the NFL. They'll take a

981
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 6: guy and they'll literally put him anywhere in the front seven.

982
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think he, like you said, uh,

983
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 8: you know, he's a jack all trades. He could do everything,

984
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 8: specially talent. And you know, I know a lot of

985
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 8: people that know him and they say a lot of

986
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 8: good things about him.

987
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's definitely a great player.

988
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: You know, that's so difficult I think about it right now.

989
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that look at Michael Parsons

990
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 2: and they say he's he's the next Lawrence Taylor.

991
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what dad is. Do you remember LT?

992
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

993
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, seriously, Yeah.

994
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 2: Man, I can tell you right now, Lawrence Taylor was

995
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: the greatest football player that ever played.

996
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: That's just my opinion, right.

997
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald closing the game, Well, you know, Aaron Donald

998
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: is really really good. There's no doubt about that he's excellent,

999
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: but LT changed the game. Yeah, so he changed the

1000
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: game complete how offensive coordinators blocked, the slide protection of

1001
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: the offensive line, and what you had to do to

1002
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: actually play.

1003
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Speaker 1: You couldn't block LT with a running back, you could

1004
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: not do it.

1005
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 2: He dominated his era when he played, and he's still

1006
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: I think could step into the NFL tite right now,

1007
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: dominate right now.

1008
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 1: Michaeh.

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00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: Parsons is a different body type though, for sure, he's

1010
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: a different cat for all together. Man, So he does

1011
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: remind me a lot because I do think there's gonna

1012
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 2: be a lot of teams that are going to look

1013
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 2: for a Michaeh. Parsons type coming out of college. Oh,

1014
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 2: he's a Micah Parsons. Where it was find the next

1015
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: del team, find the next LT.

1016
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Speaker 1: We have to do that.

1017
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: I think the NFL is going to be saying, find

1018
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 2: the next Micah Parsons.

1019
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Speaker 6: The thing is, it took him thirty years to find

1020
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Speaker 6: the next LTE and Michael Parsons, you know, It's what

1021
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 6: This whole start of the season is like a reunion

1022
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 6: tour for you, NFC East.

1023
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy, I mean, like going.

1024
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Speaker 5: Against these these teams.

1025
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I like it.

1026
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 8: I love the NSC east Man for like, that's a

1027
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 8: great uh you know conference, and yeah, man.

1028
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: It's dope for you know, play against us.

1029
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 6: You still have beef with some of the other guys

1030
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 6: across the last scriptge from last year. I ain't gonna

1031
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 6: say that.

1032
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Speaker 1: Uh you know.

1033
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Speaker 8: I definitely learned to hate, you know, the cowboys as

1034
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 8: being a pelly last year.

1035
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Speaker 1: And my parents, my dad and my brother's.

1036
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Speaker 6: The cowboys man, So I did give me a little

1037
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Speaker 6: little little as you.

1038
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Speaker 2: Know, everybody hates the cowboys with the star on their helmet.

1039
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Speaker 1: For sure. It did make a nice target though.

1040
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Speaker 6: Definitely, well, that's a great way to end it. There's

1041
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 6: no doubt on your hatred for the Cowboys. That's a

1042
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Speaker 6: great way to Kaiser White.

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