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Speaker 1: This is Teddy Teapot with Teddy Mellencamp. So you guys,

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Speaker 1: welcome to this week's Teddy Teapod. I have a very

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Speaker 1: special guest that I, to be perfectly honest, I never

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Speaker 1: thought would join me, and that is my father, John Mellencamp.

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Speaker 1: Hi Dad, Hi kids? What's going on? So? Um? I

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Speaker 1: just have to first put this out here. Any of

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Speaker 1: the questions that I'm about to be asking are from

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Speaker 1: Teddy te Pod and Instagram, So anything I asked can't

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Speaker 1: and won't be used against me. Okay, okay, so Dad,

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Speaker 1: what area? I'll let it be uh A guest? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just normally do don't use my excitable boys, No, don't,

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Speaker 1: don't don't use your interview boys. So let's just talk. Okay, fine, fine,

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Speaker 1: but then you can't get wrapped at me. If I'm

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Speaker 1: you know, asking something that annoys you, I just won't answer.

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Speaker 1: Simple okay, fine? What kisses you off the most? Huh?

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Speaker 1: What kisses you off the most? Um ingratitude? I? Uh?

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Speaker 1: You know this. I don't like to uh. I like

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Speaker 1: to do things for people, but I don't like them

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Speaker 1: when they started expecting me to do things for them,

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Speaker 1: and then you know, that my moods are always pissed

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Speaker 1: off or mad. So I'm either in the state of

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Speaker 1: being piste off or mad, and then maybe something a

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Speaker 1: little higher than that. I don't know. I would say

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Speaker 1: it's piste off mad or you're telling jokes and stories,

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Speaker 1: which is my favorite thing about you telling what kind

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Speaker 1: of stories? You tell the best stories? Always, I'm a songwriter.

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Speaker 1: I'm supposed to tell stories. That people don't stand is

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Speaker 1: that songs are not about me, their stories. Like I

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Speaker 1: just wrote a song called I Always Like as Strangers

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Speaker 1: and everybody that I played it for go? Is that true?

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Speaker 1: You really do that? I went, God, damn it. It's

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Speaker 1: the song. It's to entertain people. What is the favorite

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Speaker 1: song you've ever written in your life. I haven't written

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Speaker 1: that song yet. I'm still searching for that song. Do

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Speaker 1: you have a favorite song to perform? No, not particularly, uh.

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Speaker 1: I know that there's songs that the audience like need

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Speaker 1: to perform, But as you know, we're not performing right

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Speaker 1: now because of this COVID and so all uh, all

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Speaker 1: live artists are kind of sideline right now. You know,

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Speaker 1: we can't go out and play. I don't know when

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Speaker 1: we'll be able to go out and play, and it

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Speaker 1: kind of frightens me because that's all I know how

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Speaker 1: to do is go out and play. Well, that's what

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask, like during this time, which

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Speaker 1: I think, no matter what business you're in, you know,

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Speaker 1: people are going through so much chain and change, and

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Speaker 1: some people are using that to grow, and some people

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Speaker 1: are using that because they're in real pain and they

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Speaker 1: don't know what to do right now in the midst

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Speaker 1: of all of this. What's your best advice and what

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Speaker 1: keeps you going? I think that I think that I

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Speaker 1: try to and I know you won't believe this, but

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Speaker 1: I try to to take this moment and learn something. Ah,

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Speaker 1: every day by making something, you know, I paint every

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Speaker 1: day if I'm not paying meaning I'm writing a song.

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Speaker 1: So I'm always in the motion of creation. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: that keeps my mind active. I think what I've discovered

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Speaker 1: I can't go in the recording studio. But I'm a

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Speaker 1: hermit and you know that. And but the difference is

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Speaker 1: I choose to live this way. Uh. But when you're

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Speaker 1: forced to live this way, it's a different story. So

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Speaker 1: the idea that we have to do something, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: is annoying to me that I'm not doing anything really

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Speaker 1: But other than that, my life has changed very little.

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Speaker 1: So what should people do? What should people do? They

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Speaker 1: should look for the thing that can elevate them, you

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Speaker 1: know in this time period. I'm not saying note because

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Speaker 1: you're always painting or writing. Do you ever think that

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Speaker 1: you'll write a book about your life. I've been asked

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Speaker 1: also that I do know, and do you think because

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Speaker 1: private life so private? Well I look not dead, God

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Speaker 1: damn private. They just called me and told they just

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Speaker 1: who can Who cares about a sixty nine year old man?

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Speaker 1: Apparently a lot of people, which brings me to my

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Speaker 1: next question, which makes me fully want to dry heave.

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Speaker 1: Everybody wants to know all about your love life. Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't get it. So many women

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Speaker 1: he single? What kind of woman does he like? Is

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Speaker 1: he like the older younger woman? Tell her short? I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I am gonna bar for reading these. Yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: imagine it would be kind of uncomfortable for a child

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Speaker 1: to be reading about their parents. A matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: one time, when I was a kid in the sixties, Uh,

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Speaker 1: my mom, as you know, was very attractive, and uh,

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Speaker 1: one of our friends said to my older brother Joe,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to have sex with your mother. And Joe

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Speaker 1: pumps into faith you did. And Joe couldn't beat up anything,

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Speaker 1: but it annoyed him so much that you know this

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Speaker 1: standing in your island, what what's happening here? Because it

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Speaker 1: didn't buy you know, I didn't care, but it offended Joe.

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Speaker 1: It didn't bother me, but offended Joe. Well, I don't

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Speaker 1: think it bode too well if I went off hitting

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Speaker 1: people that asked me about you, because give me in

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Speaker 1: a lot of trouble. But what so what what little

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Speaker 1: juicy tidbits can you give on your love life? And

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Speaker 1: I'll block my ears? Uh? None, so you don't have

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Speaker 1: to block there. There's no conversation about that. Alright, alright, fine.

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Speaker 1: On that same token, how do you think that with

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Speaker 1: key during this time. I don't know. Some people don't

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Speaker 1: think don't don't think that about me. I mean, you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: that I lived in things that I say because you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, Teddy, I'll say anything to anybody. I'm not

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Speaker 1: it's our responsibility as human beings to voice our opinion

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Speaker 1: I like the fact that people who know me understand that.

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Speaker 1: But there are people who don't get it. Do you

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Speaker 1: think that I've become such a no at all because

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Speaker 1: of that? Now? I think you've become such a know

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Speaker 1: you need advice? I had lots of sources. You are

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Speaker 1: when i'm proud. Well, you know, and that's why your

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Speaker 1: life gets screwed up asking me. I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: it's not dicey. It's just like you know, in the

425
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: world that he lives in, it's acceptably you know, he's

426
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: part of that world. You know, when you're twenty five

427
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: years old and you're going to nightclubs and before the COVID,

428
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 1: you know, when you're going to nightclubs and you're doing this,

429
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: you know you're you're looking for trouble. Nothing good happens

430
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: in this world past midnight. Always it's time to come home.

431
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,479
Speaker 1: It's midnight. Now it's gonna start getting dirty. So and

432
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: I know because I grew up playing in nightclubs. You know,

433
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: I'm a barroom singer. That's how I started out. I

434
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: sang in bars and since I was thirteen years old,

435
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: and I see what happens to people after midnight. They

436
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: fucking nutch. Well, you know also why the reason I'm

437
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:27,719
Speaker 1: crazy about being late is from you, Right, Do you

438
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: remember the story that has scarred me for life on

439
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: why I'm always on time? No? So we were in

440
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: Hilton Head and I got my back. In these days,

441
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: we could just ride our bikes to you know wherever

442
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: and say we're gonna be back at a certain time,

443
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: so I would left the house. I was like probably twelve,

444
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: and I said I'm gonna go to the barn for

445
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: a couple of hours. And I didn't have any concept

446
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: of time or wear a watch or check the time

447
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: or anything like that. And I remember, probably like ten

448
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: hours later, I saw you like peeling into the barn

449
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh no, and you just gave

450
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: me the look and like put your hand like come here,

451
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: and I got off the pony, like ran to the car.

452
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: You didn't speak to me the whole way home we

453
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: got there. I don't know if i'lting allowed to mention

454
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: who was at the dinner table, but at the time

455
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: they were like a very big celebrity couple. And you

456
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: took away my birthday. That doesn't sound like me, Yes

457
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: you did. You took away my birthday and you said

458
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: it in front of everybody. Ah that I but you

459
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: know what, it's equality. I really love about myself, But

460
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: I still wish that you hadn't taken away my birthday

461
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: that time. Well, I don't know if you know it, Titty,

462
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: but you can't really take away somebody's birthday. And I

463
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: hate to spoil it for your listeners and you, but

464
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: it's not an easter bunny. Well you think you could? Um,

465
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: how would you describe me in three words? Ah? I

466
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: love you? No characteristics? Uh? Well, I'm glad you took

467
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: the compliment. So well, well, I think you know what

468
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: you know. I love you too, daddy. Um, don't you

469
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: have to get back with me on that? All right?

470
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: So now, uh, these ones you're really gonna love. But

471
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: we have to ask a couple of Real Housewives questions.

472
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,479
Speaker 1: So let's take a little break and then we'll come

473
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: back and ask those. Now we're back, is gonna be

474
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: your favorite part of the episode? Dad, I can feel

475
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: it already. Are you glad that I'm no longer a

476
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: part of Real Housewives? Yes? I am terribly excited and

477
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: happy that you are no longer part of Real Housewives.

478
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: I never liked that you're on Real Housewives. I tried

479
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: to be supportive, so I watched, but I can assure

480
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: you I don't watch anymore. Um. I think that it's

481
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: great and I think that some of those women on

482
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: the show are fantastic and ah, but I don't like

483
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: people to know where I'm at. I don't like people

484
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: to know what I'm doing. I like to have privacy.

485
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,479
Speaker 1: That's why I stick around. You know my properties, and

486
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: don't go anywhere I don't want to be part of

487
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: of ah, you know where everybody knows everything about everybody.

488
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: I don't like it, and I don't know how you

489
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: stood it. And I was glad that you were enjoying

490
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: it when you were doing it, but I'm glad you're

491
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: not on it. Do you have a favorite housewife? This

492
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: isn't a loaded question, this is just do you have one?

493
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: It's a loaded question, but no. But I do respect

494
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: all of these girls are doing and even the ones

495
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: that you didn't like. You know, there's a certain like, Wow,

496
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: you enjoy putting your life out. What people can look

497
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: at it, ridicule it, judge it unfairly, and you don't

498
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: seem to mind, so that there's a certain strength in that.

499
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: I think that I would not want to develop or

500
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: be part of. And what I don't need. I don't

501
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: even like doing interviews, I know, which is why I'm

502
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: shocked that you're here, and then what do you think, Petty,

503
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm only here because you're I'm only here because you're

504
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: my daughter. If you were my daughter, you know, anybody

505
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: else call me and asked me to be honest podcast

506
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: and you know what the answer is, no, I know.

507
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: And when I asked you, I really asked you kind

508
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: of in a laughing way. And I remember Cruise was

509
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: in the car with me when I asked and I

510
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: got off the phone, and you know, Cruise like just

511
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: gets things. I don't know how at his age, but

512
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: he looks at me and he goes, you didn't think

513
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: your dad would say yes, did you? And I said

514
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: I didn't and he goes, well, people loves you, and

515
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: he said yeah because he wants to be there for you.

516
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I like cheer it up.

517
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: I was like, you're right, Cruise. So I am really

518
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: grateful for you taking the time to do this with me.

519
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: This is exactly right. Yeah, So I am grateful and uh,

520
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: the Final Housewives questions so we can move on from

521
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: that and officially move on from that part forever. Um,

522
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: do you what did you think of Kyle and my friendship?

523
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 1: I don't know why This is such a popular question,

524
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: but I guess a lot of people either loved it

525
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: or had a lot to say about it. What do

526
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 1: you think about it? I would say that, quite honestly,

527
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 1: people who comment on your friendships none of your business.

528
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: Why can't tell a little bit more you and me?

529
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: It's just none of your business? And uh, you know

530
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: what a good Why don't you be a good neighbor?

531
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: And here's I'll tell anybody that's listening what a good

532
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: neighbor is. Do you mind your business? All my mind

533
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 1: business will get along just fine. And if you need help,

534
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 1: you can call on me and if I can mend helping,

535
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: and I will, but only if I can. I'm not

536
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 1: going to get involved in your drama if I can't

537
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: be helpful. So why don't we all just be good neighbors?

538
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 1: Can mind our own bucking business. Yep, So write that down, guys,

539
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: get a pen and paper. Next time you want to

540
00:34:54,840 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: be keyboard warriors, go for it. Um. So the final

541
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: topic that of course people have a million questions on

542
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 1: is music. So I'm just gonna do some rapid fire

543
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: dream collaboration. If you could record something with any other musician,

544
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: who would it be well, he's dead, but it would

545
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: be what he got through. Wow, biggest celebrity or however

546
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: you want to say, artists, friends that you have, like

547
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: a mentor even hate mentioned in his name. But just dude,

548
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: it's just us, Dad. Yeah, all right, why don't you

549
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: just answer it? Is it? Bruce Springsteen? Yeah, that's what

550
00:35:54,400 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: I thought. UM, first concert you ever went to? UM

551
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven and I went to see Steppenwolf and

552
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: The Beach Board the Beach Boys. Um, When will you

553
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: be releasing more music soon? I'm we're in the middle,

554
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: not in the middle of We're almost done with the

555
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: documentary and an album called The Good Samaritan Tour in nineteen.

556
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: In the year two thousands, I had just completed the

557
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: big worldwide tour and was very successful, and I wanted

558
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: to get back to the audience. So I decided me

559
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: in the Lane to head inspect and two young musicians,

560
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: and we went and played on street corners all across

561
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: America for free at noon. I stole the idea from

562
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: what he got to used to go play in the

563
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: fields for the workers in the thirties, and he would

564
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: just show up and sing to them while they were working.

565
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: So people don't work in the fields thing, or they do,

566
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: but not the majority of people. Uh. Farming was like

567
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: the biggest way of making a living back then, but

568
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: now in two thousand, everybody worked in big buildings. So

569
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: we would go downtown unannounced, set up and play for

570
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: free during people's lunch breaks. And we started out in

571
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: I think, uh now maybe Philadelphia, boss, I can't remember,

572
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: uh and unannounced and eight hundred people showed up. They went, oh,

573
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: look at John Mellencamp. John Mellencamp playing on the street

574
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: crent like a street musician. And then by the time

575
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: that we got Chicago, uh in, the internet had just

576
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: started in two thousand, cell phones were just starting to

577
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 1: get popular. I set it up in Chicago at Daily

578
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: Plaza and we had twenty thousand people show up. Well,

579
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: we made a documentary about to get it. We called

580
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: it to get Samarritan to it, because when did you

581
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: realize you could start using your voice for social issues.

582
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: I never really looked at it like that. I always

583
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: just kind of thought that I would write about things

584
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: that I was interested in, and its people interpreted what

585
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: I was writing as social issues, then so be it.

586
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: But once again, I'll repeat myself because I still to

587
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: this day I have to say that, m M. You

588
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: know these songs I've had over four hundred songs published,

589
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: they're not about me. You can't write four songs about

590
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: a guy who don't leave the house and just paish.

591
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: It's not that interesting. It's just songs are meant to

592
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: entertain people. They're not about you. Know. Of course, you

593
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: know there's some songs that I've written that I have

594
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: some of me in it. But like I said, I

595
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: just wrote a song called I Always Lie to Strangers

596
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: and I played it for a couple of people, like, well,

597
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: they are you telling me the truth? And it was

598
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: just like, it's a song. It's meant to entertain you,

599
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: it's meant to make you think, it's meant to make

600
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: you dance. Whatever the song is, you know, it's not

601
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: about me all the time. So do you think that

602
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: what makes you a great songwriter? Than is that just

603
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: having a vivid imagination and being creative or what do

604
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: you think it is? I don't consider myself a great songwriter.

605
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: I consider myself struggling songwriter because writing songs is always

606
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: a struggle. It's it's hard, it's harder than people think,

607
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you can write, and I think anybody can

608
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: become a songwriter. But there's a difference between writing a

609
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,959
Speaker 1: song and writing a really good song. And a really

610
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: good song doesn't necessarily mean that it's popular. It just

611
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: means that it's a really good song. I mean, Mike

612
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: Elvis Gus Tella wrote a song called almost Blue, and

613
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: I heard that and I thought that I'm glitting. I

614
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: can never write a song that's good. You know, Blue

615
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 1: is so good, so good. You know, Dylan has written songs,

616
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: and it's kind of like, you know, when I first

617
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: started out. I'm just making a record down in Miami

618
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: at a place called I can rename the studio anymore.

619
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: But the Eagles were in the studio next to me

620
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: making your record, and they were recording an album called

621
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: Hotel California, which became huge success. And I used to

622
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: walk by their session and I could hear Hotel California,

623
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: and then I walked back into my session. In my ear,

624
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: I need to love her, and I like the way

625
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: ahead of me. You know, I'm writing that little song here,

626
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: and these guys are writing a song called Oto California

627
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 1: and Life in the Past Lane, which both became tremendously

628
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: big kids pus God and that was like a great record,

629
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: and I was making a record. You know, well, I

630
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: still I still like that song for the record. Do

631
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: you have a most embarrassing story? Uh, you know, I

632
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: don't get embarrassed very easy. Well, I have the most

633
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: embarrassing story that involves you. Do you remember when you

634
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: were on tour with Bob Dylan and I didn't know that,

635
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: Like you give him fist pumps, like that's how he

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Speaker 1: says hi, And I went, You introduced me to him,

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00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: and he like when it put his hand out to

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Speaker 1: fist pump me and I shook his paw. Well, I'm

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00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: sure knowing Bob and I like Bob, and Bob blacks

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00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: me when we get along with it. I'm sure that

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00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: he gets that quite a bit. It's not knowing how

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00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: to react to him, because you know, of all of

643
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: my generation, you know, he is you know, he is

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00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: considered and he is the best songwriter the whole rock

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00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: and roll folk generation. You know that Paton was handed

646
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: from what he got through you to Bob, and then

647
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: Bob took it and made more out of it than

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Speaker 1: what he could have ever dreamed. Bob is a true artist.

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00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: I bet you right now Bob is in California where

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00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: he lives on Point whatever that place is. I bet

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00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: he's making something right now. Yeah, well you're always making

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00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: something too. What do you think in your lifetime you're

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Speaker 1: the most proud of h I don't know. I don't really.

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00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't understand this word pride. Yeah, and

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00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 1: I don't make people have asked me this question before.

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00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: I don't really understand the question pride. I never I

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00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: never do anything to be proud. I only do it

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Speaker 1: to do the work. You know, if it turns out

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00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: people like it, great. But you know, I'm always onto

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Speaker 1: the next thing. I'm always you know, I'm I'm always

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00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: onto the next thing. I don't take time. I remember

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00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: when I had my first number one record. I was

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00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: married to your mom, and uh, they called me and said, John,

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Speaker 1: your records number one, your album's number one, and your

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Speaker 1: singles number one. And I walked out on the porch

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Speaker 1: at you know where we lived, and I lived up

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00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: a cigarette and I went and that was it. Do

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Speaker 1: you think that we're all like put on this earth

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Speaker 1: for a purpose, and like yours was to do this

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00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: or do you think, do you believe in that or now?

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Speaker 1: People have free will to do whatever they want. And

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Speaker 1: I don't believe in predestination. I don't believe in there's

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Speaker 1: only one person in this world for me to love.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe any of that stuff. I believe in

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Speaker 1: a lot of the first sight, and I believe that

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00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: that that can happen. But you know, no, I don't

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Speaker 1: think there was a reason. Everybody has free choice, which

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00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: makes it different than animals. They have free choice to

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00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: become an invent who we are and who we want

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00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: to be. And it's I think it's only fair to

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00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: also say that you have to remember there's really no

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00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 1: legacy in this world. People to play for the legacy

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00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: they keep, you know, particularly people my age, so worried

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00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: about the legacy, and I think to myself, there's no legacy.

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about. You know, you might have

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Speaker 1: a song that you'll remember that people will remember, but

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00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 1: they won't remember you doing it. They'll just remember this song,

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00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: and then that song will go away after a few generations,

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Speaker 1: and then I'll never remember. My great great grandpa I

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00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: don't remember, and he came here from Germany. He made

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00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: quite a track you know, came here from Germany, married

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Speaker 1: a black woman and they didn't speak the same life,

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00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: which but they coexisted together. But I don't know, I

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00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: don't you know. That's about all I know by that's

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00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: his legacy. It's all I can say it in two sentences,

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00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: and that's my family. I can ask you, do you

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00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: know who Benny Goodman is? Teddy and I don't. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: Benny Goodman was like a big band leader, and he

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00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: was as big as the Beatles for his time period,

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Speaker 1: and that was just a few generations ago. And you

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00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: don't know any Goodman is. You can't sing one song

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00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: or I'm one melody if any Goodman play, he was huge.

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Speaker 1: Oh nation, the nation was standing. And to Benny Goodman,

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Speaker 1: thank you for the visual. Well, speaking of humming one song,

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Speaker 1: I have one final request, and no it's not to sing.

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00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: Jack and Diane are hurt so good. But my favorite

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Speaker 1: memories of my entire life with you, and you know

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Speaker 1: this is when we would be driving in the car

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Speaker 1: and you'd sing me paper Moon. We sing one line

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00:46:55,360 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: of it, say it's only a paper moon, bucome over

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Speaker 1: a cardboard tea, but it wouldn't be make body, you body,

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Speaker 1: you didn't me? There you go. Oh, I love your dad.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on. I really really

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. And if you guys have any questions for us,

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Speaker 1: let us know, send them into Teddy Teapot and make

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Speaker 1: sure you keep tuning in. Thank you for listening. Hey, Teddy,

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Speaker 1: hold on for one second. I got one statement. Anybody

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Speaker 1: who's listening, I don't really care what you're saying, so

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Speaker 1: don't bother writing in and being negative because it's falling

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Speaker 1: on death peers. Yeah, I second that. Thanks for listening.

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