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Speaker 1: Please welcome to money making Conversations, my friends. I'm calling

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Speaker 1: my friends doctors Hodges and Dr Ferguson. Hey have to

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter small. You did you not use it?

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Speaker 1: What did you use? That? Said the word camel? Camel? Yeah.

425
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Speaker 1: The next episode this Saturday night at ten on that deal.

426
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Speaker 1: While people would be able to see a camel. Uh.

427
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Speaker 1: This camel was used if used in um nativity scenes

428
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Speaker 1: and he was getting a little frisk in the Nativity scene.

429
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Speaker 1: So we had removed him home. Now y'all take away

430
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Speaker 1: his man. That's what you said, yeah, because he was

431
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Speaker 1: really going away in amazing So he was having exactly

432
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Speaker 1: stop that. What you do? What you doing, mama? What's

433
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Speaker 1: going on with the camel? Exactly? You know, the last

434
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Speaker 1: thing you need is something dangling in the camel. I've

435
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Speaker 1: cheered that capital can talk. He has something to say.

436
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Speaker 1: Right now, he was trying to talk. You tune in,

437
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Speaker 1: trying to talk to us. Then every day before we

438
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Speaker 1: did it every day for that camel was day. I

439
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Speaker 1: love it. I love it so so now that's the

440
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Speaker 1: biggest animal. So what is the smallest animal you guys

441
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Speaker 1: are gonna work with on the show? A spider? Huh?

442
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: Did you hear you heard that right? A spider? A spider? Okay,

443
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Speaker 1: I see, I would never think that would be something

444
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Speaker 1: at the event would work on, would be a spider,

445
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Speaker 1: because I would think that if you start working on it,

446
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: he's so small you would kill him. No, I mean

447
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 1: we didn't. We did. This was more husbander how to

448
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Speaker 1: take care of the spider, because you know, people pay

449
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Speaker 1: a lot of money for these big spiders and so

450
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Speaker 1: you gotta see them sometimes. This simple spider wasn't eating

451
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Speaker 1: as much as the guy thought, but he was doing

452
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Speaker 1: the web. But the big thing is he was in

453
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Speaker 1: the smaller and closes, so he didn't need to eat much.

454
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Speaker 1: So after explaining that, spiders still doing well. Okay, So

455
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: so so you guys do like a nutrition. Yeah, nutrition everything.

456
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: Nutrition is is the big part of everything. So yeah, right,

457
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Speaker 1: and so when you look at when you let me

458
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Speaker 1: ask you this where you're located there right now? Why

459
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Speaker 1: did you pick that location? So we're both country boys,

460
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Speaker 1: I mean literally, you know you could have done right

461
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Speaker 1: it is, yeah, we could have, but I mean I'm

462
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Speaker 1: being honest with and we was poor. We're trying to

463
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Speaker 1: get Harris. What was the name of that place America?

464
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Speaker 1: The hair it was? It was it was in Snailville.

465
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Speaker 1: So we tried to get um cleaning here in Snailville.

466
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Speaker 1: Um and uh, I mean, unfortunately, you know we went

467
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Speaker 1: to we didn't have much. We didn't know much about

468
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Speaker 1: finances at the time. We didn't know how to box.

469
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Speaker 1: So we had no credit, no finances, no money, and

470
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Speaker 1: of course you denied for that loan. That's the best

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Speaker 1: thing ever happened. So we end up going home. We

472
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Speaker 1: were in an eight hundred square foot can't shop a

473
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Speaker 1: hunter square feet. We went about wood from home depot.

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Speaker 1: Let just tell you guys, my first apartment was seven

475
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Speaker 1: hundred square feet, so I know exactly I was a

476
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Speaker 1: hundred square feet in my studio apartment, right, and we

477
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Speaker 1: we built that place out. We built two exam rooms,

478
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Speaker 1: we built a little surgery room, and um, we just

479
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 1: used our skills. I mean we went around we big guards.

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Speaker 1: Something we bought like use equipment. We went over to

481
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Speaker 1: who was that Hunters Gas and went to gas in right,

482
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Speaker 1: and we bought from cages. I guess the guy felt

483
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: sorry for and he gave us an X ray machine

484
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 1: because we didn't have one. This X ray machine was

485
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Speaker 1: a World War two X ray machine World War two.

486
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Speaker 1: But it worked, but it worked. I love it, but

487
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Speaker 1: it worked. Though. As long as it worked, were good.

488
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: We're good. Now I'm trying to figure it because I

489
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Speaker 1: just told everybody I know exactly how big eight hundred

490
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Speaker 1: square feet is. Because my first appartment was seven and

491
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Speaker 1: square feet. Now he didn't put an X ray machine

492
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Speaker 1: in there. From World War Two, he didn't put a

493
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: little surgery room in there. Now they didn't win and

494
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: got some cages. Now did the people just walk through

495
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: the front door right through the surgery because I don't

496
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Speaker 1: see no area for a little reception. We had a

497
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: very very small reception area, maybe two chairs two chairs.

498
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Speaker 1: So they come in sitting in there with the chickens

499
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Speaker 1: sitting in there with their dogs, sitting in there with

500
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Speaker 1: their little pigs. So that's how they all started. And

501
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: I do when you're using credit cards that they that

502
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 1: they bother you for food or what was going on

503
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: in those early years. We have very humble beginnings. I

504
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: can remember when Dr Hodges and I got our first check.

505
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: It was less than a hundred dollars, but if you

506
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: saw the smile on our face, it was worth a

507
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: million dollars because that was our beginning. Um. But things

508
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: did move pretty fast forward because within the four months

509
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Speaker 1: we started a second location franchise franchise. Things moved fast.

510
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Speaker 1: You know, God was good, you blessed stuff. And we're

511
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Speaker 1: we we love our community. Our communities are small, but

512
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: we are members of our communities, which means that we're

513
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: a family. They treat us like family, we treat them

514
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: like family. Have been awesome to us in our area

515
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: and that and and it shows in the growth that

516
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: we've had. So it's a trust though. It's like like

517
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: you were staying earlier. Is like you learned that in

518
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: school of the bond between an animal and human and

519
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 1: and that and this, and this's an honest bond because

520
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: I always treated like you know when you because both

521
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: of you have children, so you know what I'm talking about.

522
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: You know, I always your child, you know, born, and

523
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: and you just see them physically and you barely don't

524
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 1: want to hold them cause you feel it might break them.

525
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: And then they started crawling, and then they wanted to

526
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: they start trying to talk, you know, So just look

527
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 1: at an animal right there. Stop stop it right there.

528
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: So you have you have somebody that just has unlimited

529
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: love for you and wants instructions, wants instructions. You throw

530
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: a stick it for a dog, That dog will get

531
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Speaker 1: that stick. I don't care how many times you throw

532
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: that stick. That dog will get that stick. You did

533
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: it for a child two years old. They do the

534
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: same thing you you can. You can put the same

535
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Speaker 1: TV show on in front of a child's and then

536
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: look at it. They just keep it. That's what you

537
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: want me to watch. I'll watch it. That's what that's

538
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: what they do. I'll watch it one more time and

539
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: Ladder Laddin for the third year time. I'm gonna watch it.

540
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: And that's what you get in an animal and that

541
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: that you that you believe in your care. I don't

542
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: care if it's a horse. I don't care if it's

543
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: a cow, a bull. It is that that that process.

544
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: So because I am gonna cut your ball. I'm from Houston,

545
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: Texas field for but I'm a bank fishing okay, so

546
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, so y'all could just stop talking to me.

547
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: I'm a bank fisherman. Now, you know what doing something about?

548
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about? The cane pole. I

549
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: know about the cave pole. You know with the little bob.

550
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: That's what I started. Perch and large mall, small mall bass.

551
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: You know, stand on the side, slip the coup. Ain't

552
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: said the word go. I was born in the city,

553
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: y'all need to stop, man. I was born in the city.

554
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: You come out, you come down. Yeah, I will come

555
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: out here to be kicked a little like what sending on.

556
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: And so catfish, that's when I learned about calfish. My

557
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: daddy pull all the guts out of the cash fish

558
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: and it was still swimming. I went, oh my god.

559
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: So catfish, they're the hardest fish in the world to kill.

560
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: Is a catfish. That's where you gotta cut the head.

561
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: That's where you gotta cut the head off. A catfish.

562
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: You cut all you They know I'm talking to fats.

563
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: They know what I'm talking about. And the catfish. If

564
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: you grab it wrong, you might well just grab a knife.

565
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,719
Speaker 1: They will put something on you on it. Well, my goodness,

566
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: you put something on you for real. I just gotta

567
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: get my country license with my boys, you see. So

568
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: I can't let it get off the phone, you know,

569
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: let them think they just got some little regular old

570
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: Atlanta ball on the phone. Because see, you do a

571
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: country people they act like their own country, just like

572
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: can stand off of the act like their own country.

573
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: But they like they look like they're patent it like

574
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: they trade more country. Now I got country to now,

575
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: now you might want to be Jacko stole up up

576
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: there in Alaska trying to shoot bars, and your mama

577
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,719
Speaker 1: worried about you because you don't know where you're at

578
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: because you ain't have no cell phone back then, trying

579
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: to watch fish go upstream, been slapped down by bars

580
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: and all that good stuff. You are. They're the only

581
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: black dude looking around going what's wrong? Everybody gonna you're

582
00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: the wrong? What are you doing up here? But I

583
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: love it, man, because y'all groundbreakers, man. And when I

584
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: say groundbreakers, I mean you guys are leaders in the

585
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: game because you're human and you don't see color. And

586
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: that that is what I wish the world will do

587
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: more of its. And like you said, you know, Book

588
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: of Washington started this a long time ago. You show

589
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: people value, they will treat you for your value. That

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00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: is what you guys are doing every day. Tell us

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00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: everybody one more time about your show and how we

592
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Speaker 1: can watch it or national g O wild. But well,

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Speaker 1: your critics fix the country vests. We're gonna be on

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Speaker 1: every Saturday night on that deal while at Pendlecock. And

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Speaker 1: if you don't have that deal, while we gotta everybody

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Speaker 1: has Amazon Prime, you can get the whole series on

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Speaker 1: Amazon Prime for none. So either way, it kiss the

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Speaker 1: country of it, either on that you Know While or

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Speaker 1: Amazon Prime. I love both of you, guys, I always do.

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Speaker 1: You can come on my show now. I got a

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Speaker 1: little lake side my yard, in my backyard, So what

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do is when my wife get back in town,

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00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna bring the family up, do a little barbeque,

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00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do some count your stuff with y'all.

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Speaker 1: bring them core fish long as you donna bring no

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Speaker 1: I'm telling hell, I'm gonna push your behind right in

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