1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: The Millionaire's Magician, Steve Cohen. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, why do they call you the millionaire's magician? 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Well, I don't. I don't check people's bank balances at 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: the door. But a lot of my audiences over the 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: years have been wealthy New Yorkers, and a media outlet 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: called me that one time, and it just stuck. 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: By the way, if you go see Steve's performance, it 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: is a formal event. Why do you find that's important 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: for an evening of magic? 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: Okay, so I dressed in a black tie and tails, 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: but it's really just like cocktail attire. We want people 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: to have a very festive evening. It's in this really 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 1: beautiful old Victorian style Gilded Age mansion, and so if 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: you come there dressed up in flip flops and shorts, 15 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: you know you're going to really feel out of place. 16 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: So what people like to do is they can make 17 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: it a whole evening. There's it's you're in a Gilded 18 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: Age mansion. People get dressed up, women wear evening attired 19 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: gowns sometimes, but you know, really it's not again, We're 20 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: not going to turn people away if you're wearing just casual, 21 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: but you would feel uncomfortable. 22 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,639 Speaker 2: So it sounds like it's a show and a show 23 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: and you're setting you're setting the pace for this magical evening. 24 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: I'm assuming there's some candles involved. It's you've got this 25 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: beautiful set, you're taking us so a different time, yea. 26 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: It really is a ton of a step back in time. 27 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: I had to think of the the shows at the 28 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: Lote New York Palace hotel. So it's like, like I said, 29 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: it's a Gilded Age mansion. Is the first Gilded Age 30 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: mansion in New York City to have electric power. It 31 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: was built in the eighteen nineties, right, so you know 32 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: you've got the wires were hand installed by Thomas Edison. Right, 33 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: So this is the type of building that you're in 34 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: and if you ever walk past it, you might just not. Actually, 35 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: the best way to put it is, if you ever 36 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: saw the TV show gossip Girl, they film Gossip Girl 37 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: in that hotel. Oh well, so do you guys, Maybe 38 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: you guys watched I never watched Gossip Girl, so I 39 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: couldn't tell you. But so it's it's really it's a 40 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: special place to visit and it's not just a magic show, 41 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: which you know, of course, that's what I'm putting on. 42 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: But it's the whole experience of walking into this step 43 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: back in time love that I'm sure ghosts are involved 44 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: in that that dwelling as well. I even include one 45 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: of the ghosts in my show. 46 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: Oh well, yeah, are you are you going to show 47 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: us a trick with a ghost because this building doesn't 48 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: have any ghosts? 49 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, magic is best performed after dark. 50 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 2: So Steve Cohen, the Millionaire's Magician, is about to perform 51 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: something for us, a very special something just for us. 52 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 2: But I mean, you've been in New Yorker for your 53 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: entire life. 54 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So I grew up in Westchester. I went 55 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: to school in Chappaqua. And actually I've got a great 56 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: story which is about Z one hundred. Oh where we 57 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: are right now? Yeah, we are right now the haunted 58 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: radio station. And maybe it's only haunted because you're here. 59 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: When they can meet, my ghost will continue to come. 60 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: Into a show. So basically, like I said, I grew 61 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: up in Westchester. When I was a kid, just going 62 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: back over forty years, I was driving to school one 63 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: morning and my brother and I used to listen to 64 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: Z one hundred every morning. Right, who is the host 65 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: back then? And the Scott Shannon Scots. It was definitely 66 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: Scott Shann, I remember his name. And so he or 67 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: one of the people in the crew that day had 68 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: announced a contest, and the contest was, if we name 69 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: your birthday and you're the first caller, then call us 70 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: in and we'll give you one thousand dollars in cash. 71 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: So my brother and I are driving along wondering, you know, 72 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: maybe they'll call our birthday. So Scott Shannon or whoever 73 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: it was, said, okay, if your birthday is February first, 74 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: be the first caller and we'll give you a thousand dollars. 75 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: And my brother and I went, holy crap, that's my birthday. 76 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: My birthday is February the first, right. And so again, 77 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: this is forty years ago. No one has cell phones, right, 78 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: they hadn't been invented yet. What did you do? So 79 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: I pulled over, screeched to a halt, ran up to 80 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: someone's house. Okay in Westchester. I ran through their yard, 81 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: tripped on some gravel and scraped up my elbow. I'm bleeding. 82 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: I got to their front door and I'm knocking furiously. 83 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: Let me in, Let me in. They're like, what do 84 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: you need? And I'm like, can I use your phone? 85 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: Who do you have to call? And they looked at 86 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: my elbow. They thought I needed to call a hospital 87 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: because I was bleeding, and they said no. I said, no, 88 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: I need to call Z one hundred. Okay, And so 89 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: the people let me in. I I call up the 90 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: one hundred. They let you in. They let me in. Yeah, 91 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, kind of like calm looking person. I'm not 92 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: going to, like, you know, rob them or anything. So 93 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: so they let me in. I called you one hundred 94 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: and I was not the first car, So I didn't 95 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: end up with the money, but I did end up 96 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: with a bloody elbow. You a thousand dollars. The reason 97 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: I'm here today is to collect but plus interest. 98 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: Because that was he said forty years ago. What would 99 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 3: that be? Rewed? 100 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: My god, you're going to put us out of business. 101 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: Exist This ten can isn't worth that much money. That's 102 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: like a library book that's been overdue for a really 103 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: long time. Yeah. 104 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: Well, look, I've been in many an assistant in mini 105 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: magic shows, and I've had to hand over a dollar 106 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: bill or one hundred. I've never had to hand over 107 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: like forty five thousand dollars. 108 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Well, we'll have to get to that later, 109 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: no problem. How did you started? That's why I'm called 110 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: the Millionaire's Major because I just I just catch it 111 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: in all the shake down the radio. 112 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: Exactly how did you decide magic was your life? I'm 113 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: assuming it started when you were a child. 114 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm I started when I was six? And did 115 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,239 Speaker 1: you ever try any magic tricks when I'm the worst? 116 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: Did you ever try you're a little boy? Yeah, I 117 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: was the best then? Okay. Yeah. So I think that 118 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: a lot of kids start off doing magic, you know, 119 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: at around age six, seven, eight, when they get a 120 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: magic kit or something that their parents say, hey, you know, 121 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: my kid, wu probably learn something fun. It stuck with me. 122 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: My uncle was an amateur magician, and he was a 123 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: really good one. He was very serious about it. So 124 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, I thought, okay, you know, 125 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: I'll just do what my uncle showed me. And the 126 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,119 Speaker 1: way he taught me was an interesting kind of progress. See, 127 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: he said, if you learn this trick, then I'll teach 128 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: you the next one. It wasn't like he gave me 129 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: all the tricks at once and said he here's all 130 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: the secrets. He said, if you're good at this one, 131 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: then we'll teach you the next one. And I had 132 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: to prove to him by performing it the next time 133 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: we had a family gathering. So the way I like 134 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: to think of it as kind of like a like 135 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: a drug dealer, you know, like he was like stringing 136 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: me along, Like if you want to learn the next one, 137 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: you have to be really good at the first one. 138 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: So like I kept at it, and I got pretty good. 139 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: And you know, certain people have certain aptitudes for things, 140 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: like you know, like I'll have a good ear for languages, 141 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: so you know, I'm able to I speak Japanese. I 142 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: was able to us a gloss pass thord. Yeah. Yeah, 143 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: well I learned Japanese when I was seventeen and became 144 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: fluent and became a translator and interpreter for the government, 145 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: which government Japanese Jean. I was doing the Japanese patent 146 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: translation in Japan in Tokyo. So you go to Tokyo. 147 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: But it's the time. 148 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 2: I'm assuming you're an inspiring magician as well, or you 149 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 2: were an officially. 150 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: I did both. I did both. 151 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 2: So you do interpretations during the day in Japan and 152 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 2: at night you do magic shows. 153 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: That's right. What a life. This is this is a 154 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: movie a movies grab. Yeah. So I was when I 155 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: was in Tokyo. I was working at the Park Hyatt Tokyo, 156 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: very nice hotel at the time, it was the most 157 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: luxurious hotel in Asia, and I did shows there for 158 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: about a year and a half, almost two years, and 159 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: it was my entree into Tokyo society to get a 160 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: chance to do magic for the high society there. 161 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 4: Wow, this is crazy, truly. 162 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 3: I have so many questions about magician stuff in. 163 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 5: Okay. 164 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 3: Is there really a magician's guild. 165 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,239 Speaker 1: I've never heard of that, but there are magic organizations 166 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: and I wouldn't called them a guild. I think you're 167 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: thinking of of Joe Bluth from Arrested Development. 168 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: That's exactly yeah. 169 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, So what I what I can tell you 170 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: is real is there's the Magic Castle in Los Angeles, 171 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: which I'm a member of. Fact there, Well, you have 172 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: to know a magician to get in, and now you 173 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: know you know me and I know they gave me 174 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: a special lifetime Uh. It's called a performance Fellowship, which 175 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: is basically kind of like an Academy award from the 176 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: Magic Castle. Wow, it's a really high level thing. And 177 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: they give it out to you know, like very handful 178 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: of people. 179 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 4: Aren't you in like the Inner Magic Circle. 180 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: That's the other one. I was gonna tell you this 181 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: is the devil stuff. There's no pentagon, there's no pentagrams involved. 182 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 3: I'm picturing people in robes with hoods. 183 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: It's not like that at all. It's all a bunch 184 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: of like, you know, like ordinary looking people who know 185 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: some really cool tricks. 186 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: No Jeffrey Epstein connection, no, no, no, okay, babies, and 187 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: there's not okay, don't don't get me started. 188 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, started. 189 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: So that's in l A, you've got the Magic Castle, 190 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: which is a great magic private clubhouse, which again, as 191 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: I said, you need to know a member to get in. 192 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: And if you need to get in, because I know 193 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: you and you know me, you just tell me and 194 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: it's be my pleasure to let you in there. Wow. 195 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: Now that doesn't go to all of your listeners because 196 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: with requests so. 197 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: So far with Steve Cohen, the Millionaire's Magician, we have 198 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: lost forty three thousand dollars in cash and we can 199 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: now go see a magic show exactly. 200 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: And then in London, like you mentioned, there's this wonderful organization. 201 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: It's called the Magic Circle. It's right near Houston Station 202 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: in London, and that's the one of the oldest magic 203 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: societies in the world and it's been running consecutively I 204 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: think for like like one hundred and twenty five years 205 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,599 Speaker 1: or something like this and to two hundred something. I 206 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: forget exactly the number of years. But the point being 207 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: it has magicians who who meet in a private clubhouse 208 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: and teach each other tricks to get better. 209 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 4: Oh, how do you get into like a club like that. 210 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 4: You have to be invited. 211 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: You have to for both of these clubs, the Magic 212 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: Circle and the Magic Castle. You have to audition. You 213 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: have to prove that you're not just a lukie loo, right, 214 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: that you have you really care about the craft and 215 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: you will actually get better and improve magic for everyone 216 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: and not just be like a secret stealer a grifter. Yeah, yeah, 217 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: because that's the honestly, that's kind of what it is. Like. 218 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: People may want to get into magic just that they 219 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: learn the secrets and then blab it to their friends. 220 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 3: Yes, right, so you can you get to be. 221 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: A real My feeling is that you're not really You're 222 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: not able to keep a secret if you even tell 223 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: it to one other person. So, like a lot of 224 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: my secrets that are in my show, could I do 225 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: a show that's called Chamber Metric and the secrets are 226 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: not available publicly to anyone. I don't put them out there. 227 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: No one knows these secrets, nor should you, and exactly 228 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: and so so you might think, Okay, we can go 229 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: on the internet and find any secret we want, but 230 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: that's not true. There are certainly secrets. You can go 231 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: on YouTube and find tons of magic tutorials. It'll teach 232 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: you how to do some great card tricks and coin 233 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: tricks and rubber band tricks and whatnot. But like the 234 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: real secrets, I think that there are magicians such as 235 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: myself who care about them so deeply that we just 236 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: don't blab them for anyone. Veryss one person knows it, 237 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: that person dies, the secrets are lost with. 238 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 2: There's nothing that drugs me more nuts, Steve than someone 239 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: who has to sit there and go crazy trying to 240 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 2: figure out how it was done. I just you do 241 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: a trick. I just wanted to live with it as Wow, 242 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: that was great. I don't want to think about how 243 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 2: you did it than you or you should we think 244 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: about it. 245 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: Do you do you know the trick that I'm most 246 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: known for. No, I don't, okay, So I know that 247 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: Skiy came came to the show. Do you remember the 248 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: trick a drink? Yeah, okay, I tried to unpop that 249 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: for three hours. You have to h I guess just 250 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: natural to do that, you and everybody else, you and 251 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: everybody else. Yeah. Yeah. So basically in the show, I've 252 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: got this silver tea kettle. It's an old teapot, and 253 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: I asked people around the room to ask to name 254 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: their favorite drinks. And so someone might call out that 255 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: they want to have a ginger ale. So I pick 256 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: up the tea kettle and pour them immediately from that 257 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: spout a ginger ale. They drink it. It's real, And 258 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: I say, okay, what does someone else want? Someone else says, oh, 259 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: I want to have a Gin and tonic. So I 260 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: pick up the kettle and pull out a gin and 261 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: tonic from the same stop and give it to the 262 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: second guy. Hours someone called out, McCallen ate teen okay, 263 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: and you literally pulled out the cant eighteen and then 264 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: you let him try it. He goes, this is definitely 265 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: maclid eighteen. 266 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's crazy And just like 267 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 4: if not taxed anything. 268 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: And I'm in the middle of a room attached no 269 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: one's just chocolate milk or something stupid like that. People 270 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: have asked for chocolate milk. They've asked for you who 271 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: here's a guy who asked for There was one guy 272 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: who asked for a chocolate egg cream, right, you know, yes, 273 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: and we put it with the you bet chocolate syrup, 274 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: which is but I bet Gandhi can totally stump you. 275 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. Could you do a mango lussi. 276 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: I've done mangolossie stop. 277 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: Yes, of course this is wild. 278 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah yeah. 279 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 6: So doesn't it taste like if I look, the last 280 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 6: person had a yuku and then I want a margarite, 281 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 6: it tastes nothing. 282 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: No, there's no overlap. 283 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 2: But wait, Steve, I want my deceased mother's breast milk. 284 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: People have asked for breast milk before. Oh god, someone 285 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: even asked for peptobysmal. I can't pour medication. Scissor would 286 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: like to see a magic tricky. 287 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 2: Okay, so you're using your hands for a magic trick 288 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: my neck before you do this. Are your hands insured? 289 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: They are not insured. And I have I have friends 290 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: who are musicians who play the violin, who have every 291 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: finger is insured individually. But I've never I've never gone 292 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: that route. Man, move your bottle because we're gonna is it? Okay? 293 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: Are we catching this on camera? Sure? Do you did whatever? 294 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: You're like? Sure? Okay? Okay, you approve the angle? Yeah, 295 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: yea yeah, I will give the water bag at all. 296 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: If you amaze, you'll get your birthday. Have a birthday coming? 297 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 4: I do this month. 298 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: Oh wonderful. Okay, here we go. So this is the 299 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: trick for you then. Okay, and I've got a black hanky, 300 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: and can you rub my hand just to make sure 301 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: that it's empty? It's empty? Now it's my birthday. I 302 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: probably should have covered at first. That would have been 303 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: a lot more like your left fingers. This time left finger. 304 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: I want you to touch the base of my palm, 305 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: and I want you to rub slowly towards my fingertips 306 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: all the way down and press my hand as you go. 307 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: You keep going all the way down to the very end, 308 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: so you felt all the way across my whole hand. Great. Okay, 309 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: So for those with you that didn't feel what she 310 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: was feeling. She was feeling this my empty hand, and 311 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: I watched. This is where the magic begins, right there 312 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: in that very center spot. Can you see, Yes, make 313 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: a circle right there. Good. Look, it's forming, it's rising, 314 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: The circle is filling. I hope that you're thirsty because 315 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: it's time for a single malt scotch. 316 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: And it's gotten liqid. This is crazy. 317 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: Out from under the handkerchief, the black handkerchief on his hand. 318 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 2: I don't know where this malt scotch and a shot 319 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: glass comes out. 320 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: That is awesome. 321 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 4: That tastes good. 322 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you're a drunkard me, this is the 323 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 2: show you gotta go stay my god. 324 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: Awesome. Yeah, it's all about cocktails with this guy. Well, yeah, 325 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: it's what's up, Nate? You are the most fascinating. I 326 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: love you. I'm sorry we got to have you back on, like, 327 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: you know, next week. Where do you get some of 328 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: the ideas for these I don't want to say tricks, 329 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: like these illusions, like where do you where they come from? 330 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: Right? 331 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: Right? So, so almost everything I do is it's dated 332 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: back to hundreds of years ago. And there's a library. 333 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: There's actually a wonderful library called the Conjuring Arts Research Center, 334 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: which sounds like something you'd find in Hogwarts, right, it 335 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: sounds like, yeah, it can't even be real. But it's 336 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: a library for magicians. And I wouldn't say you need 337 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: to know a secret handshake to get in, but they wouldn't. 338 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: They won't let the ordinary, you know, public, just walk in. 339 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: You have to either know the librarians, you have to 340 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: know the organization to have access. And in that library 341 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: they have books that date back to the fifteen hundreds, 342 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: the fourteen hundreds, secrets that have been preserved for centuries, 343 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: like old thousand year old recipes. Yeah, yeah, kind of 344 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: like that. It's like that. And and the point being 345 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: that these books have to be preserved in climate controlled 346 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: vaults because otherwise the pages will crumble and the secrets 347 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: would disappear. So now this is like Hogwarts, it kind 348 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: of is, right, Yeah, And so I I research a 349 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: lot of my magic tricks based on these old secrets 350 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: and try to make them feel fresh for a modern audience. 351 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 4: Wow, fascinating, you know, it's amazing. 352 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: Magic is just teeming the richness of the history. I mean, 353 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: it does take you back. It takes you back to 354 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: give me an example of a series on Netflix. I 355 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: mean I think of. 356 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: Well, the Gilded Age. I mean, like, if you watch 357 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: The Gilded Age, that's like exactly what I'm getting at 358 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: as far as the ambiance of the show, Like, you know, 359 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: when people come, it's like a festive event, but when 360 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: you get there, you're like already in an altered state 361 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: of mind because you're thinking, why did I have to 362 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: get dressed up to see a magic show? Right? Is 363 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: this not a dinner? You know, a state dinner, Like 364 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: why do I have to get dressed up for? But 365 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: by putting yourself into that mindset, you're actually making yourself 366 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: invest yours. You're invested in the experience. You know. 367 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: We had an incredible chef, Mario Carbone on the other day, 368 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: and when you go to one of his Carbone restaurants, 369 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: it's not just going into this Italian restaurant. 370 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: It's a show. 371 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: And we're talking about his restaurant's God, he goes to 372 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 2: the one in Miami, we go to the ones here 373 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: in New York. 374 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: It's a show. 375 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it's they take you to a different place 376 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: with the decoration of the room and the way you 377 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: communicate with your server and the captain. It's not just 378 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: an eating experience. It is a show. Sure, so your 379 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: like I said before, yours is a show in the show. 380 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: It is it is. I mean way I like to 381 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: think of it is that you're going through many frames, 382 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: like picture frames, and frame number one is at your 383 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: own home when you're picking out what am I going 384 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: to where to go to this magic show, right, and 385 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: you're thinking about it for like a couple of weeks 386 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: or days before you even leave your house. And then 387 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: the next frame is walking into this beautiful hotel that 388 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you've been to the 389 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: Lotate New York Palace, but it's it's stunning. I used 390 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: to do this show at the Waldorf Astoria. I was 391 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: at the Waldorf Astoria hotel for seventeen years before they 392 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: closed for renovations. But like both of those places, like 393 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: walking in is the first big, big frame and you 394 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: realize they're kind of walking into a movie set. You are, 395 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: you know, And then you walk down this gilded hallway 396 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: and then there's like chandeliers and gold ceiling and you're like, 397 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: he really doesn't feel like you're in modern New York 398 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: anymore so, it's not street magic. It is opulent, it's 399 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: age exactly. 400 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 3: This is okay. 401 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 5: So of course you were saying that to get into 402 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 5: some of these organizations, they really test you and they 403 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 5: make sure that you're not a grifter or somebody who's 404 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 5: just trying to steal from people. How many magicians actually 405 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 5: fall into that category versus what you're doing? And can 406 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 5: you get kicked out of these organizations once you're in? 407 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: Oh, the good question. So I'll answer the last question. So, 408 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: so magicians have gotten kicked out of organizations like the 409 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: Society of American Magicians, International Brotherhood of Magicians, the Magic 410 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: Circle for exposing secrets to the public. 411 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 4: Like the Mathe Magician when he had that show. Do 412 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 4: you know who that was? 413 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: We do? Everyone knows who he was? Yeah, is he 414 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:44,959 Speaker 1: still alive? 415 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 3: Wants a man want? 416 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: Well? He moved Actually his name was Valentino, Valve Valentino. 417 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: He actually moved to South America. There was a big 418 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: article about him, I think in Bloomberg or in the 419 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal or something recently, and he's actually flourishing 420 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: in South America with a whole career there. But he 421 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: did get black balled, you know, and blacklisted by magicians 422 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: everywhere else because he is exposing secrets. And so that's 423 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: that's the one Anatholte. You cannot you cannot expose secrets 424 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: as that's like the basic level. But here's but here's 425 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 1: an interesting story that that the Magic Circle in London. 426 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: The very first president was a guy named David Devant. Okay, 427 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: he was one of the founders of the organization. He 428 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: exposed some secrets. They kicked him out of his own organization. 429 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 3: Oh whoa that would be insulting. 430 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, yeah, happened to me here probably Please. 431 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 5: So how many of the other magicians that we see 432 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 5: are actually just kind of swindlers and not necessarily actual magicians. 433 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. I mean I don't. I 434 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: don't interact with people like that. I kind of stay 435 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: away from many magicians. I don't I get involved in 436 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: things that are the kind of on a bigger scale. So, 437 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: for instance, there's a big exhibition going on at the 438 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: New York Public Library this this month and actually running 439 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: through the middle of I think June or July, and 440 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: it's in league with the one hundredth anniversary of Harry 441 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: Houdini's death in nineteen twenty six and this year is 442 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. So in league with that, there's a 443 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: big magic exhibition that's being held right now at the 444 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: New York Public Library for the Performing Arts, right behind 445 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,239 Speaker 1: Lincoln Center. And so I align myself with organizations like that, 446 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: Like I'm working with like bigger on bigger level. I'm 447 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 1: not trying to win money off of people on the 448 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: streets or you know, like I do three Carmonti and 449 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: like the put your finger in the chain, like yes, 450 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: I'm not doing the eternal chain. So yeah, the stuff 451 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm doing is like at a higher levels, I don't 452 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: really know much about what those guys are doing. 453 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 5: Okay, to be honest, So you've never used it for bad, 454 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 5: You've never used the powers. 455 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,239 Speaker 1: I've ever used match. I'll tell you. The only time 456 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: I've ever used magic to my advantage outside of a 457 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: show was I was doing I was on jury duty. Okay, 458 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: I was called for jury duty and it was a 459 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: point blank gunshot case in the Lower East Side, And 460 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: during the jury selection, they asked, do you have any 461 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: experience with handguns? Now, I have actually on my on 462 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: my show, I've done the bullet catch where I caught 463 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: a bullet in my mouth, my god, from a clock nineteen. 464 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: So this is like a real trick. I had a 465 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: bullet which which is shot at my face. I catched 466 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: the bullet in my teeth. Okay, and not impressed Steve 467 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: and I did. I did it in the History channel. 468 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: You can watch it on my website. You can watch 469 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: it online. So anyways, so I did the bullet catch 470 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: and it traumatized me. I ended up with a with 471 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: a blood blister like a hematoma from shattered glass. And 472 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: I ended up with a blood blister on my chest 473 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: that kept on growing a nerve damage. Anyhow, So when 474 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: they were doing the jury selection, the judge said, okay, 475 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: have you ever had any experience with handguns? I said yes, 476 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: I had a gun pointed at my face and fired 477 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: and I caught the bullet in my mouth, and the 478 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: Jude says, get out of my court. Follow up, no 479 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: questions asked. 480 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 2: Whether it's just turning is on to Steve Cohen, of course, 481 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 2: the Millionaire's Magician performing here in New York City. You've 482 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: heard how beautiful the evening should be for you, and 483 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 2: will be make sure if you can get some ticket it. 484 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 2: I've heard it's very difficult to get tickets to your show. 485 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. So you know, the show's been running for twenty 486 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: five going on twenty six years now. I've done nearly 487 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: seven thousand performers, so it has a lot of momentum, 488 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: right of people. Over the years, over half a million 489 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: people have come to see the show. And the way 490 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: I like to think of its kind of like edging 491 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: up on Phantom of the Opera Leme miserob Territory with 492 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: the number of performances. But with those shows, they've got 493 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: a rotating cast, you know, of like different actors and 494 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: singers and dancers and whatnot. I'm a solo act so 495 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: I've done myself public shows for the in New York 496 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: City for you know, going on seven thousand shows now wow. Yeah, 497 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: so people can buy tickets, but you know, depending on 498 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: the time of the year, it gets sold out. 499 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 6: From I'm picturing in my head, but I'm going to 500 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 6: wear when I go. Yeah, people get all dolled up. 501 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: It's great. I love it. You know, I'm getting called. 502 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 3: Up just stee. 503 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 4: Do you know exactly how many tricks you can perform? Like, 504 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 4: do you do you know exactly how many? 505 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: You know? I do twelve tricks twelve, But over. 506 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 4: All the years, you've known more than twelve tricks. 507 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: Oh, I mean this is my livelihood. So yeah, I 508 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: mean it's like if you asked you know, if you 509 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: ask the guitarist you know, to play, they know thousands 510 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: of songs, right, I know thousands of magic tricks, but 511 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: I perform twelve of them. 512 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, last question. 513 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 5: Well, I don't know if it's the last question, but 514 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 5: I have one more question, another question. What has doing 515 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 5: this for as long as you've been doing it taught 516 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 5: you about people? 517 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: So so that's a really good question. I like to 518 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 1: think of the people. Often mention that there's misdirection, right, 519 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: that you make someone look over here when they should 520 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: be looking over there, and you know, trying to. I 521 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: don't like to think of it as misdirection. I like 522 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: to think of it as direction that in order to 523 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: get in order to make a successful magic trick, and 524 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: also any sort of an interview or any sort of 525 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: work that you're doing, you have to direct people's attentions 526 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: that they're always you always have control over where their 527 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:42,959 Speaker 1: attention is at in each moment. So rather than saying, well, 528 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: here's a good example if you have a piece of wood, right, 529 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: a piece of paneling, let's say, and there's an there's 530 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: a knot in the middle of the wood. Your eye 531 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: is drawn to that spot, right, and there's all the 532 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: lines around that would that kind of draw your attention there. 533 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: That's what a magician's doing, is we're drawing your attention 534 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: to one point. And so, I mean, I don't know 535 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: if this is answering your questions, kind of an esoteric 536 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: way of answering it. But rather than trying to lead 537 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: people away from what they should be looking at, I'm 538 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: always trying to lead people toward what they're should be 539 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: looking at. And that's you know, that's the job of 540 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: a director. So I'm directing people's attention as opposed to 541 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: want this directing that. 542 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 2: You know, I'm assuming being a student of magic as 543 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 2: you are, I'm sure you could see a magician, illusioners, whatever, 544 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 2: doing a trick and figuring it out if you just 545 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: think it through or figure out maybe three different ways 546 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: they could do it. Have you steve ever seen someone 547 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: perform and you are so baffled you almost get a 548 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: tear in your eye, and you know, like that was 549 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: for sure beautiful? Sure, can you recall one of those. 550 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,239 Speaker 1: Shaps one hundred percent. So the problem with being a 551 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: magician is that you have the curse of knowledge. You 552 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: know too much and then it's therefore you become dead 553 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: into it all. But every once in a while I'll 554 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: meet someone who's considered what's known as a magician's magician. 555 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: Now you've heard of comedians, comedian like someone who makes 556 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: comedians laugh and you know someone like the average public 557 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: will listen to that comedian that's not that funny, but 558 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: other comedians go, this guy is a genius. Right, So 559 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: there's people like that magic where they don't really perform 560 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: for the public, but they baffle other magicians. They'll work 561 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: at a convention just for the trade and make people 562 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: tear their hair out. It's hits hilarious. So there was 563 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: an act I flew across the country to see in 564 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. It was a recreation of what's known as 565 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: the Hooker Rising Cards. Now has nothing to do with 566 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 1: the Hooker. The name the name of the magician who 567 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: came up with his name, Doctor Samuel Hooker, worst name ever, 568 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: But he came up with a metric trick, which is 569 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: a card deck where you name any card and that 570 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: card floats out of the deck into the air and 571 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: he plucks it out of the air, and it's miraculous. 572 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: And magicians throughout this like the past one hundred and 573 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: fifty years, have not known how this trick is done. 574 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: So when this one magician named John Gonne found the 575 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: original props from the f family, he had no idea 576 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: how they were put together. He had to reverse engineer 577 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: the whole trick, and after several years of figuring it out, 578 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: put on a show doing that trick the hook a 579 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: Rising Cards, and it's basically twenty minutes of the same 580 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: trick over and over again. You name a card, it 581 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: floats up. You name a card, it floats up, and 582 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: different different iterations of it. I don't want to go 583 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: into it. But anyway, even as magicians, we're all watching 584 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: this going. And then, by the way, the audience is 585 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: full of magicians, there's not a single layperson there. None 586 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: of us know how it's done. Wow. Wow. 587 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 3: So when he dies, it dies with. 588 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 1: Him, pretty much, Yeah, pretty much? Yeah. And that's the 589 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: beauty of it all, isn't it. It's very ephemeral, you know, 590 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: It's like, why why do we need to all have 591 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: access to it, I think is better when we don't, 592 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 1: and they need to. We need to have that mystery 593 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: and real secrets that are left in the world for 594 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: us to have for the next generation. 595 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 2: When you're not in your tucks and your tails and 596 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 2: your hat and doing your show, you just walked through 597 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: let's say Central Park in New York City, which you've 598 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 2: done hundreds of times probably in your life, maybe more. 599 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: What do you see in real life? To you is magic? 600 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: Well, I'm a runner, so I actually run marathons, so 601 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: I'm in Central Park much more than most you know. 602 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: I run about you know, forty sometimes up to fifty 603 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: miles a week, and so, you know, just I like 604 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: watching children laugh. Like that's very magical to me, is 605 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: seeing a little kid. And I like to make little 606 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: kids laugh. And sometimes I'll just you know, do something 607 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: silly and make them make them smile, or I'll do 608 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 1: something magical, like you know, like make a coin come 609 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: out behind their ear. As old and hoary as that sounds, 610 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: and it still makes it still makes a little chill 611 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: children happy, and then you see them afterwards reaching for 612 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: their own ear. I think that's a door of ood, 613 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: you know, like making a coin just making a coin 614 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: appear from their ear and then walking away and looking 615 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: back over my shoulder and seeing them reach up there 616 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: to see if they could find more from you is 617 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: always I just love that. 618 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 2: I love hearing that, because you know what, if we 619 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: stop down and just look around as we see magic 620 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: every day, but Steve, Steve Cohen, to see you do 621 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 2: this show would be just an honor. And so I'm 622 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 2: going to pay full retail and show up as a 623 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 2: surprise one night, and it's going to be just an 624 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 2: amazing night. 625 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for