1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio had the best sports talk lineup in 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,159 Speaker 2: It feels like it's been forever since we've seen some 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 2: college football. I don't know if it was because it 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: wasn't much of a game between Oregon and Indiana, or 7 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: if it's because we're still waiting for the National Championship 8 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: game to come up on Monday. But Aaron, there is 9 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 2: something missing. 10 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I guess just last year I got 11 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 3: used to I was thinking about it though. Listen, you know, 12 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 3: our one of our competitors, our competitor, whatever you want 13 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: to call it. I understand they have the whole playoff essentially, 14 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 3: and I understand they want, you know, the symmetry of 15 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 3: having a quote unquote Monday night football game. But when 16 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 3: you have the quarter, when you have the semis on 17 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: Thursday and Friday, just put the National Championship on Thursday 18 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: or Friday. 19 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 4: Why wouldn't it be. 20 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 3: Awesome and awesome start to Divisional round weekend in the 21 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: NFL to just have Indiana against Miami on Friday. 22 00:00:58,640 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 4: I agree. 23 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: I actually think that the Monday the game is almost 24 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: a letdown. It's more of an obligation instead of a 25 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 2: ramp up to what the NFL is gonna bring. 26 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 4: And it's a great call. 27 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: Is if you have casual NFL fans, casual NFL fans 28 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: that maybe don't that you know, have tuned into the 29 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,639 Speaker 3: college football Playoff because they're looking for something to watch. 30 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 3: It is a great point by you that after four 31 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: straight games, you know, two straight days with two games 32 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 3: a piece, and obviously you know the schedule gets pushed 33 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 3: back where that Sunday night game is the Sunday second 34 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 3: game is basically an evening game, six thirty Eastern start 35 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: Rams versus Bears. You know that game is gonna end 36 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 3: at ten pm, and now you're asking people to recommit 37 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 3: to more football on Monday. 38 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 4: I'm with you. 39 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: Let's get it done on front. The network portion of 40 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: it is for ESPN. It's like, hey, guess what, we 41 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: got another Monday night football game. It's just for the 42 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: National Championship and it's for the branding. 43 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: But I just don't I think it's a lame way 44 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: to incorporate the branding. 45 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: I honestly, I was exhausted from watching Texans t on 46 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: Monday night from what we had the previous two days 47 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: in the games and the tripleheader on Sunday, like it 48 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: was just of the games of that magnitude. I'm like, 49 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: all right, now I got Sex and Steelers. Still like 50 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: all right? Can we move on? Can we get to 51 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: the next weekend? 52 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 3: Well, and keep this in mind too, you're both someone 53 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: who works in sports media and is a college football fan. 54 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: Now imagine if you were neither, and how likely it 55 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: would be that you would turn on that game on 56 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: Monday night? 57 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 4: Yes? Absolutely. 58 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: Now there's a reason that we're talking about college football 59 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: the National Championship Game is our friends over at bet 60 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: online have used geo tagged data from x in trying 61 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: to find out who is rooting for who in the 62 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 2: National Championship Game. And I want to bring in Iowa, Sam, 63 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: because it's going to start our midway segment. But Sam, 64 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: if I were to tell you of the fifty states, 65 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: how many do you think are cheering for Indiana, the 66 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: favorite in the National Championship Game on Monday, the number 67 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: one seed, the top seed in the game, in the 68 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: in the bracket, the college football bracket. How many of 69 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 2: the fifty states, according to the data accumulator by bet online, 70 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: are cheering for Indiana over Miami. 71 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: Forty eight. 72 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: Forty eight, all right, thanks for playing the game. It 73 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: was only forty five. I was hoping you would say, 74 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: I don't know twenty five, and I was saying, no, Sam. 75 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 4: You want to believe this. 76 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 5: I know better than that. 77 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: Well no, actually, because you're supposed to play along again 78 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: your low number, right. 79 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 4: Jason, that was really legitimately guessing. 80 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: Let's try it. Let's try Jason. How many states do 81 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: you think Indiana has cheering for them of the fifty. 82 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 5: Seems like it's like twenty five is probably split right 83 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 5: down the middle of Mexican. 84 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: Forty five's that was the reaction. I was looking for. 85 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: Forty five of the fifty states cheering for the unbeaten team, 86 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: the number one team in the country, the team that 87 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: is favored by eight and a half. America apparently is 88 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: loving Indiana or for some reason they've love the winner. 89 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 4: But it's the Hoosiers who get all the love. I'll 90 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 4: say this. 91 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 3: I'll give credit to one of our colleagues, Rob Parker 92 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 3: Odd Couple. I was a guest on the show. I 93 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: think it was before the Miami game, so, but he 94 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: made the argument to me, why is Indiana a Cinderella? 95 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 4: And I don't. 96 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: I'm paraphrasing here, so Rob, if you're listening, I don't 97 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: know the exact quote, but why are they a Cinderella 98 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 3: or why are they like a feel good story? They 99 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 3: have a highly compensated quarterback, both their coordinators are highly compensated, 100 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: and in the vacuum of in the nil era, a 101 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: lot of teams can be competitive financially. I thought it 102 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: was an interesting point, but it doesn't seem as though, 103 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: and I'm not criticizing Rob in any way, shape or form, 104 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 3: it doesn't seem as though it's a point that most 105 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: of America seems to agree with because they do still 106 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 3: see it as a feel good story. Iowa, Sam is 107 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 3: so fired up. 108 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 4: In them, so fired up. 109 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 6: I think people your average casual sports fan, college holla fan. 110 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 6: He has no idea about the compensation, about any of 111 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 6: that stuff. They just see the brand, They see the 112 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 6: logo on the helmet, and they know that Indiana has 113 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 6: been a basketball school for decades and has not never 114 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 6: been a football school. Really quick two thoughts on that 115 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 6: as well. I also think the push pull of Signetti 116 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 6: and Mendoza also makes them more likable we're like yang, yes, yeah, 117 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 6: like your angry uncle that you love, but like you know, 118 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 6: like you don't try to have a conversation with him 119 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 6: at Thanksgiving and there's only like four Topicsner he's pessimistic. 120 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 6: He's just like, no, I don't care. I think he's quirky, quirk. 121 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 6: He's idiosyncratic for sure. Yes, And then Mendoz is the 122 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 6: exact opposite. He's just I love smiling. Smiling is my 123 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 6: favorite minute, cheerful, always putting a positive spin on things. 124 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 6: He's a leader, so signetti. 125 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 2: But think about this. America loves an underdog. Since when 126 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 2: do they love a favorite? And it leads us to. 127 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 4: He's it's time for the. 128 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 2: Midway, Jason Stewart, this is your baby. What are we 129 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 2: discussing today? 130 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 5: I think that we just kind of roll with what 131 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 5: you guys are talking about now that I've just decided 132 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 5: in the moment, I think we can roll with what 133 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 5: you guys were just talking about it. And also I 134 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 5: want to throw out like what is what are the 135 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 5: teams that America has embraced the most? And also the 136 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 5: other side too, what are teams that of America has 137 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 5: hated the most? And why? 138 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: And and on the on the heels of this Indiana 139 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 2: Miami argument. It was when Miami beat Ohio State. What 140 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: was so shocking to me as an Ohio State fan 141 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 2: was how many people were cheering for Miami. But it 142 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 2: wasn't shocking because I know people don't like the Buckeyes. 143 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 4: I get it. They were the defending national champ. 144 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 2: There's there's a lot to not like about them if 145 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: you're a fan of another school. And I thought, but 146 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: I thought to myself, I didn't think it would be 147 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: as one sided as it was, considering they were playing 148 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: the you, they were playing Miami, they were playing the Hurricanes. 149 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 4: But as an. 150 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: Underdog story, like during that Cotton Bowl on that New 151 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: Year's Eve night, it sure seemed like a lot of 152 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: people were taking joy in Miami knocking off Ohio State. 153 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: So then I wondered to myself, all right, Ohio State 154 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: just really isn't like what are people coming around on Miami? 155 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: Maybe Miami isn't isn't the team that other fans didn't 156 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: like anymore? And then we see this Indiana graphic. Now 157 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: I'm wondering, is it more about Indiana? So I think 158 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: that they're all like connected in that way. Of who 159 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: do fans love and who do fans hate? 160 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 4: Well, if I can. 161 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: Go first, well should I go first? Because I actually 162 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 3: have the counter to what you're saying. I can think 163 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: of a crazy beloved team that also wasn't an underdog 164 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 3: and was actually an overwhelming favorite. And I'm kind of curious. 165 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: Let's hell, let's hear it when you talk beloved teams. 166 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: This was before my time. But the first team I 167 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 3: think of the nineteen eighty five Chicago Bears, and they 168 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 3: were an overwhelming super Bowl favorite. And I'm gonna ask 169 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: you guys too. I was born but actually I wasn't born, 170 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 3: but I was born a couple months later. I'm too 171 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: young to remember why they were so beloved. Is it 172 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: solely because of the Super Bowl shuffle? Because people still 173 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 3: talk about the Chicago Bear nineteen eighty five Chicago Bears 174 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: like they won the Super Bowl three years ago. 175 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that had I think that had a 176 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: portion of it. I think the character of the Fridge 177 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: was a portion of it as well, also with the Bears. 178 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 2: In going back at that time, if you lead up 179 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 2: to eighty five, there was still a there was a 180 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: Washington won super Bowls, The Niners won Super Bowls. What 181 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: was like the Bears were in and out, Like it 182 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: was just all of a sudden, here the Bears are here. 183 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: They're absolutely dominant, full of personalities, which I think you 184 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: could say, you know, maybe a team like the forty 185 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 2: nine ers, And this was before Jerry Rice was with 186 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: San Francisco, but you knew Joe Montana, you know, you know, 187 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: you knew the quarterbacks, you knew Joe Feisman from Washington, 188 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: you knew John Riggins late in his career. But there were, yeah, 189 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 2: there were. I think there were just more personality. Raiders 190 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl a couple of years prior, and 191 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: I think the Raiders were more of like a villainous team, 192 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 2: you know, a team that nobody liked because of the 193 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: silver and black. But I think it was all of 194 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: the personalities, whether it be Jim McMahon, whether it be 195 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 2: the Fridge, whether it be Walter Payton. 196 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 4: Why everybody liked. 197 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 7: That Dan You hit on it perfectly because other personalities 198 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 7: on the team, Ditka, their head coach. Even the atmosphere 199 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 7: of Soldier Field back then had a certain mystique to it. 200 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 7: And you mentioned Jim McMahon. He was one of the 201 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 7: top personalities in all of sports back then with his headbands, 202 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 7: he would get fined by Pete Roselle for wearing the 203 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 7: headbands with messages on the sideline. So the next week 204 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 7: he wrote high Pete on his headband. He mooned a 205 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 7: helicopter at the Super Bowl flying over Bears practice. And 206 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 7: to this day, I mean they they inspired a whole culture. 207 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 7: Like the super Fans skit on Saturday Night Live, it 208 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 7: has lasted over the years. 209 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the Roselle headband, yep, yep. That was very 210 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 2: in your face, but people loved it. 211 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 4: They ate it up. We had a we. 212 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: Had a refrigerator Perry poster on our fridge, like it 213 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: was meant for the fridge and that's what we had 214 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: on it. And we weren't Bears fans by any means. 215 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 2: I think that's a I think that's a really good call. 216 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 5: It's ironic. You say that because I had a Vinnie 217 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 5: Johnson picture on my microphone in the eighties. I don't 218 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 5: know about you guys. 219 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 6: If you want to eat up, you have to keep 220 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 6: you know, something in your fridge, and it might be say, sausage, sausage. 221 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 7: I think that there is I had a mailman poster 222 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 7: on my mailbox back. 223 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 4: In the day. By the way, good good job. 224 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 2: The Duke Blue Devils I think were the hated, hated team, 225 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: and I grew up. You talked about eighty five Bears, 226 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: Like I remember Duke always going to final fours and losing, 227 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: and so then them actually beating UNLV was an upset 228 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 2: that people loved. But I think ultimately it then even 229 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 2: it turns, and it may have even turned next year. Now, 230 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: I was not a fan of the Fab five by 231 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: any means, but like in a way, because Ohio State 232 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: being a rival of Michigan, there was no way I 233 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: was gonna like the Michigan squad. But because Michigan had 234 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 2: these five freshmen that were going on this unbelievable run 235 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: and here comes Duke going for back to back national championships, 236 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: I think that turned Duke immediately into a villain. And 237 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 2: so they were at one championship in and they were 238 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: then the bad guy, and I think they've been the 239 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 2: bad guy ever since. 240 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's funny. Actually, the other day we 241 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 3: had in one of the TV studios I do, the 242 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: late night show on Saturday that I hate. Christian Latner 243 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: documentary was on and I only bring it up because 244 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 3: in watching it, I wasn't watching it live here in studio. 245 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 4: I was doing a show. 246 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 3: But I think even the players on the ninety two 247 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 3: team were shocked at how quickly everything flipped for them 248 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: from nobody believed you could beat UNLV to oh we 249 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 3: hate you, now we're rooting against you everywhere we go. 250 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, in that Kentucky game, like there was The reason 251 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: I bring up the Fab five is because they had 252 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: played in the regular season and so there was familiarity, 253 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: and then they ultimately played in the national championship game 254 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: in that ninety two year. 255 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 4: But Kentucky. 256 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 2: For as great as the Kentucky story is now and 257 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 2: their comeback, then, I felt it was a different feel 258 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: back then, where because Duke still was kind of like Duke, 259 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: Like you look. 260 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 4: At that game. 261 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 2: It was an amazing game, and it's just needed to 262 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 2: build and build and build, and it meant so much 263 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: to the Kentucky fans that that is also spread outward. 264 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 2: But that was the part of the quick turn right 265 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 2: Regional final. Then a week later you're playing in a 266 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 2: national championship game. Duke's going from back to back. I 267 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: think that like Duke is the ultimate team to hate. 268 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 4: Please everyone be quiet. 269 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 2: Jason Stewart, Iowa, Sam, I'm going to offer up the 270 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: counter to Aaron's counter, and I just wish there was 271 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: an athlete named the counter that I could say I 272 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 2: put a picture of him on my counter. 273 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 5: So Aaron said that the Bears were dominant, why were 274 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 5: they so popular? And I think it's because it lasted 275 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 5: one year. Not only were they popular in that one year. 276 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 5: And I think your last statement is true. I think 277 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 5: it speaks to the power spoke to the power of MTV. 278 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 4: At the time. 279 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 5: But I think the Patriots are the counter example of that. 280 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 5: The Patriots winning for so many years, I think created 281 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 5: this hatred, this national hatred for them, so much so 282 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 5: that I think the great example of that is how 283 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 5: much to do to flake Gate? Got I think if 284 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 5: Tom Brady were the quarterback of an eight and eight 285 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 5: team at the time, I don't think the flake gate 286 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 5: rises to the level of him getting even suspended and 287 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 5: all that stuff. I think that there was just so 288 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 5: much hatred by the public and even the media about 289 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,359 Speaker 5: that team that something like that rose to the level 290 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 5: of how do we knock these guys down? So I 291 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 5: think the Patriots are like the counter example, if the 292 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 5: Bears had run off three or four championships, there would 293 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 5: be this like fatigue, this fatigue that we get with winners. 294 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree with that. And I 295 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: think that you're right about the Brady point. And I 296 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: still think that there is Patriots fatigue now because while 297 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: everybody is different there, I don't think any of us 298 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: want to see the Patriots ever as great of a story. 299 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 6: I haven't suffered enough, we didn't suffer long enough. 300 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to see Patriots in the end zone 301 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: of a super Bowl again, like I need, I need 302 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: five more years of not seeing that. I'll take a 303 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 2: Broncos logo. I'll take a Texans end zone. I'll take 304 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 2: a Bills one. That would be great. But I don't 305 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: want to see New England. And I still think that's 306 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: left over from that. 307 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 6: And and deflate gate was further amplified by Spygate. It 308 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 6: was like, oh, another thing that they're cheating. Like the people, 309 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 6: they're kind of conspiracy minded out there. I don't know 310 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 6: what happened with deflake gate. 311 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 4: I don't. 312 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 6: I mean we know, but we you know, we don't 313 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 6: know everything. And people think they know everything, but like 314 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 6: Spygate leading into de flake Gate, you know, years later 315 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 6: you're like, oh, same, up to their same old cheating tricks, 316 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 6: the cheating Patriots. So it's like, okay, people deflate the 317 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 6: football based on their comfort level with their you know, 318 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 6: how to grip it and all that stuff. Other teams 319 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 6: do that too, but we looked at it, especially under 320 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 6: a lens of other cheaters. 321 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're spot on with that. 322 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 7: Is I have two teams to suggest to the group. 323 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 7: One Nobody Circus the Wagons, like the Buffalo bill As. Yeah, 324 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 7: it's part of it. It's so sentimental. It's the four 325 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 7: straight Super Bowl losses. It's thankfully Marv Levy's still alive 326 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 7: and going strong at one hundred years old this year. 327 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 7: And it's Bill's mafia. It's the jumping through tables, it's 328 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 7: the tailgating, it's the national way that they travel to 329 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 7: road games. So that was one team that I was 330 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 7: going to suggest. The other team, and it's kind of 331 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 7: a different curve here is the Golden State Warriors. I 332 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 7: thought they went from a universally loved feel good story 333 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 7: when they first started their dynasty, but then when they 334 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 7: acquired Kevin Durant. They kind of turned into the Evil 335 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 7: Empire and they won a championship post Kevin Durant, and 336 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 7: now it's kind of the Draymond Green deal. But for 337 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 7: a while there on their ascent, I think, up until 338 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 7: they acquired Kevin Durant, they were a really good, feel 339 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 7: good story. 340 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 4: Can I piggyback on something? 341 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was watching one of our TVs had Lebron 342 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: James on how about Lebron James going from the ultimate 343 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: villain super team in Miami to the feel good brought 344 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 3: his hometown the first championship in however many years? 345 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, beating the Warriors. And it was in the Warriors. 346 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: I it was not a Bulls fan growing up. Sod 347 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 2: it mind the Bulls seventy two one season going down, 348 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: But I changed quickly on the Warriors. I think even 349 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: before Isaac's point about Kevin Durant. But I think the 350 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: Kevin Durant switch was the game changer. And then it 351 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: allowed Lebron and the Cavs actually some grace because they 352 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: won a title. And whether if you didn't like Lebron, 353 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 2: you probably weren't gonna like the Caves no matter what 354 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: he did. But I do agree with Aaron that it 355 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 2: put him in more of a friendlier light. And then 356 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: if Golden State's the one that acquires Durant, then the 357 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: Calves aren't the villain with Lebron anymore. And yeah, I 358 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 2: think Calves got some mileage out of Isaac's point about 359 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 2: the Warriors. 360 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 3: It also allowed Lebron to leave Cleveland without being the 361 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 3: villain of Well, you're not gonna beat the Warriors. So 362 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 3: I mean, you came here, you want us the title. 363 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 3: It's clearly not gonna happen going forward. 364 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 4: So it's interesting. 365 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna make a statement here, and I'm 366 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 2: really curious about Jason's thoughts on this. I think sho 367 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 2: He Otani is preventing the Dodgers from becoming that hated team. 368 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: I think that they're the now back to back titles 369 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 2: right now. But I think what Otani does is so 370 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: amazing and everybody is so captivated by it that it 371 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: puts a little bit of a buffer of what I 372 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: think most baseball fans would look at and say, all right, 373 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 2: well they want it again, spent all this money, everybody 374 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: signs with them, they do this. I think that Otani's 375 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: greatness in a way prevents people from maybe being anti 376 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 2: Dodgers or start to become anti Dodgers. 377 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 3: Food for thought before Jay stut jumpson, if they had 378 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 3: the best turn in baseball named Shohe Otani and a 379 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 3: different person who was essentially the best pitcher in baseball 380 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: from Japan named Uh, I don't want Yeah, yeah, yeah, 381 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 3: I don't want to start stereotyping Japanese nation. 382 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 4: Let's say say that. 383 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 3: Let's say they were two equivalent players of show Hay 384 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,239 Speaker 3: at the bat, but they were different people. I do 385 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 3: think that's an interesting point of people. 386 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 4: Well, they're just. 387 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 3: Buying all the best players from Japan. Here we go, 388 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 3: even though Yamamoto basically turned into that in the playoffs 389 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 3: this year. 390 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: But still, I get what you're saying that if Otani 391 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 2: wasn't the two way star and it was two different people, 392 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 2: would we feel the same way? No, I think that 393 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 2: we would. They then would be unlikable. 394 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 5: Maybe I come at this from a much different perspective 395 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 5: because I am a Dodgers fan and I have seen 396 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 5: the hate that I get on Twitter for the Dodgers. 397 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 5: Actually that's just for you. I think they are hated now. 398 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 5: I think there could be a h there could be 399 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 5: somewhere in between, which is always uninteresting. And I know, 400 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 5: but I don't think they're loved. I really don't. I 401 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 5: don't think they're loved by anyone outside of LA And 402 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 5: I don't think they're hated. 403 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 4: Not yet. 404 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 5: Maybe another championship and maybe show the reason they're in 405 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 5: the middle. 406 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 7: How would you compare their perception to the early two 407 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 7: thousand Yankees. 408 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 3: So I've had this this conversation on my show with 409 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 3: Jason Martin, who's a Braves fan, and I said to him, 410 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: I said, I don't feel like people hate the Dodgers 411 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 3: like they hated the nineties two thousands Yankees, and he agreed. 412 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 3: I was gonna say too, I wonder if the way 413 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 3: this World Series played out, where first of all, you 414 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 3: follow the team on a day to day basis, but 415 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 3: nobody was talking about them as this unstoppable force. During 416 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 3: the regular season. All I heard was how terrible the 417 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 3: bullpen was, was gonna catch up with them? But also 418 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 3: Toronto was up three to two in that World Series. 419 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 3: Clearly you know what I was on air during Game seven. 420 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 3: I don't remember all the lead changes, but Toronto had 421 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 3: two or three chances to seal that game. And I 422 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: think if like the Dodgers had swept this World Series, 423 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 3: is that different than again and then a World Series 424 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 3: where the Blue jay were not only their equals, but 425 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 3: there were times where you felt like they were actually 426 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 3: probably will and should win. 427 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 4: The World Series. That may have been a factor. 428 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 2: But I don't think that we've had enough time like 429 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: to to look at it because we've been removed from baseball, 430 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 2: like in this upcoming baseball season is maybe more of 431 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 2: a look at it. But I would say during the 432 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: season you said that there were there were things with 433 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 2: the Dodgers that were red flags, so maybe we weren't 434 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: talking about it, but I think throughout the playoffs, and 435 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 2: maybe I'm coming from this as a Brewers fan who 436 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: got swept by the Dodgers and to your point, but 437 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 2: it just it. It does seem when we were talking 438 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 2: about the Dodgers, the phrase that I heard was, I 439 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: know they're good, but they're just likable. But I'm like, okay, 440 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: Freddy Freeman's I go O, so is Aaron Judge, Like 441 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 2: Aaron Judge is a likable player for the Yankees, Like 442 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: there are very few unlikable players in major League Baseball 443 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: that are that are stars are superstars. So I think 444 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 2: it's Otani's greatness and just how rare he is that, 445 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 2: as they said, provides the buffer from a true hate 446 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 2: for the Dodgers that spend a lot of money and 447 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: have advantages that people think more advantages over their team 448 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 2: or other teams in baseball. 449 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 4: There's shot and that's Iowa Sam very good. 450 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 6: I think also they had broken a long pennant drought 451 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 6: in twenty seventeen, and then they went up against the Astros, 452 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 6: who we all know cheated, so maybe that bought them 453 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 6: a little bit of like they're the aggrieved Dodgers, and 454 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 6: they would have went on to lose another World Series 455 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 6: after that point. 456 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 2: But I also think that people will rush to say 457 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: that their twenty twenty title was a joke. 458 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 6: I think people also look at it is like, go 459 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 6: ahead and keep that twenty twenty because it was weird. 460 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 6: And then like when they finally won like one without COVID, 461 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 6: without a cheating scandal, it was back to back, and 462 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 6: now maybe they went a third one back to back 463 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 6: to back. 464 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 4: It might they might start to wear out people. We 465 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 4: shall see in twenty twenty six. 466 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 2: And that's the midway, the midwell, by the way, the 467 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: five states that, according to the Yes bet online that 468 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 2: are cheering for Miami Florida obviously or again maybe because 469 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: of the loss, and maybe who knows, Crystal Ball ties 470 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: North Carolina, South Carolina and Kentucky. Otherwise, everybody else apparently 471 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 2: is pro Indiana for that national championship games. 472 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: In Kentucky, the Indiana border state that is a rival 473 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 3: in Indiana in some ways. 474 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 4: He's erin Torres. 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With a perfect 483 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 2: bracket heading into the championship game, one lucky listener will 484 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: win one thousand dollars for the bracket leading the host standings. 485 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 2: Kerrie Rhoades my partner on Sunday Afternoons here on Fox 486 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 2: Sports Radio, and Andy Furman you can hear early Sunday 487 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 2: mornings on FSR. They have each made only one incorrect pick. 488 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: Visit Fox Sports Radio dot com to check out the 489 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 2: leader board. Aaron I mentioned this earlier in the week. 490 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: I've gotten one game right, oh, the college football playoff bracket. 491 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 2: My national championship game was Oregon against Georgia. So that 492 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 2: tells you. So I got the Oregon against Texas Tech 493 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 2: game correct? Everything else. 494 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 4: Wrong? Wrong? 495 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 3: Well, I will tell you I do have Indiana in 496 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 3: the title game, losing to Georgia. And the only reason 497 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 3: I have Indiana is because at the last second I 498 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 3: flipped I had Oregon Texas Tech, and then I flipped 499 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 3: Oregon and I picked Texas Tech. And then I was like, well, 500 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 3: Indiana'll be Texas Tech. So I got very lucky. Let 501 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 3: me put it that way. 502 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 4: Well, you entered, I entered. 503 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 2: All of you that did enter, congrat and having some 504 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 2: fun our first ever bracket challenge for the college football 505 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 2: and they have eight entries right now with a perfect bracket. 506 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: Yeah awesome, Yeah, yeah, pretty dark cool, That is cool. 507 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: Tiger Woods last night made his return to TV. Didn't 508 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: swing in the TGL, but he was there. He was 509 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 2: talking to ESPN and had this to say about his 510 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: current health situation. 511 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 7: How's the back feeling and when might we be able 512 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 7: to see you in a competitive arena, be it so 513 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 7: far or a tour event somewhere down the road. 514 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,479 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a great question. I've been clear to Pitt basically, 515 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 8: hit short irons and mid irons. Haven't beyond that. You know, 516 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 8: whenever that time comes when I started hitting drivers and 517 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 8: I start playing at home and start doing all the 518 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 8: different things, I will have been away from the game 519 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 8: for a year and a half, so I'll be very rusty, 520 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 8: and so there's a lot that goes into it. So 521 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 8: my prep is going to have to be a little 522 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 8: bit different from my other procedures I've had in the past. 523 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 8: I've had to stay a lot more patient with myself. 524 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 8: I get sore faster, I guess because I'm fifty, and that. 525 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: Happens as the resident golf guy here, yes, who still 526 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: has been trying to find his swing after forty five 527 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 2: plus years of playing the stupid game. The thing about 528 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 2: tiger Woods to me is I think that there are 529 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 2: a lot of golf people like me that will watch 530 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: golf with tiger Woods or not or not but we 531 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 2: also understand the gravity of tiger Woods, and so Tiger 532 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: Woods even talking about making a comeback or coming back 533 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: still gets golf people excited, even though that they've moved on. 534 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 2: My question is, do you guys get excited, like, do 535 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: you guys get excited to hear a health update from 536 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 2: Tiger Woods even though that wasn't much of an update. 537 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: The guy's now fifty, He can play the Senior US 538 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: Open if he wanted to this summer, if he was 539 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: healthy enough, like to see Tiger Woods tee it up 540 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 2: in the Masters? Is that exciting anymore? Aaron Torres, So, to. 541 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 4: Me, it's not. 542 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 3: But what I will say is it felt like and 543 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 3: maybe with the most recent recent string of medical issues, 544 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 3: you know, starting with the car crash here in southern California, 545 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 3: but it felt like there was this mystique to him 546 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 3: of if he is starting, he can win the tournament. 547 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 3: And I don't think that's really been the case for like, 548 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 3: I don't know about a decade plus, but you know, 549 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 3: pretty darn close to it. 550 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, since the accident. I think is because he won 551 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: the Masters in twenty nineteen, yeah, yeah. 552 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 3: And but I felt like in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, 553 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 3: he had clearly been on the decline, He clearly wasn't healthy, 554 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 3: and it would still be like, you know, what time 555 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 3: does Tiger tee off? And I'm like, I don't know. 556 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 3: He finished like six over par last major? Like why 557 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 3: am I supposed to care? But it did feel like 558 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 3: you know, last year or two, that has kind of 559 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 3: faded a little bit, but it did feel like, probably 560 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 3: longer than it should that it felt like he that 561 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 3: the public felt like he could win any tournament that 562 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 3: he do. 563 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 2: You understand why I wondered if there was like the 564 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: inverse you know, on this, like because because I am, 565 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: I would be excited to see what he would do. 566 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 4: But I'm I'm fine. 567 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 2: I've been fine in watching the majors that Tiger hasn't 568 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: competed in. Again, It's been a year and a half 569 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: since he's competed in a major, so that stuff brings 570 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: me in. I watch regular tour events. But him saying 571 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: that he could be coming back to me sooner or 572 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: maybe later rather than sooner is still something that I'm like, Yeah, 573 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 2: I want to see him, Like he's still a draw 574 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 2: to me. 575 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's still a draw, I think to me, there's 576 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 3: the draw of curiosity more than there is the draw 577 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 3: of expectations, and I personally kind of would go into 578 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 3: every you know, event that he is in assuming that 579 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 3: he's probably not going to make the cut and probably 580 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 3: not even going to be a factor. But I'll still 581 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 3: tune in out of curiosity. But I don't know that 582 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 3: I have that like childlike belief that he can do 583 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 3: anything because he's actually playing in the event. 584 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: Jason Stewart, your thoughts on Tiger Woods and is possible 585 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: come back. 586 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 5: Your question to Aaron was does this excite you? And 587 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 5: my answer to that is I don't get excited about 588 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 5: any news story that doesn't involve tyreek Hill getting arrested. 589 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 5: But I will say that, as I'm combing through content 590 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 5: on a daily basis as my job, that Tiger Woods 591 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 5: is on that short short list of people who any 592 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 5: news about him rises to the level of relevant news 593 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 5: to me and also compared to his sport. If I 594 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 5: saw Xander Schoffley broke his leg or anybody any of 595 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 5: the other top ten top twenty players in the world 596 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 5: doing something in newsworthy golf stuff, already right past that. 597 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 5: But you stop me at Tiger Woods is the He 598 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 5: is the bookmark for me. I'm always going to read 599 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 5: what the latest is with him. Lebron James has always 600 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 5: rose to that level, and then in recent years anything 601 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 5: about Caitlin Clark in my mind, to that level. 602 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 4: Is it glowing crown. 603 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 7: If you would have played that same comment and it 604 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 7: did not contain the part where he refers to himself 605 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 7: as being fifty years old or whatever, and if you 606 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 7: told me that was him speaking in twenty seventeen, I 607 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 7: would have believed it. It's so unfortunate that this will 608 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 7: he or won't he injury progress, set back update. I mean, 609 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 7: we're literally almost coming up on a decade where this 610 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 7: is what you hear, except for the iconic return to 611 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 7: glory victory at the Masters a couple of years ago. 612 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 7: But I think Jason hit on it. It's still I think, 613 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 7: to the average sportsman in America, his name perks their 614 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 7: ears up and their attention more, unfortunately than any other 615 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 7: current golfer who is elite or in their prime. I 616 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 7: think the only other mainstream discussion about a golfer, I 617 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 7: hate to say it, when Scottie Scheffler got arrested at 618 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 7: the US Open a couple of years ago. 619 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 2: There are young golfers that are going to be taking 620 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 2: over golf for the next decade and next twenty years, 621 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 2: and we're going to know their names. But there's twofold 622 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 2: with Tiger. It's to Jason's point of just of how 623 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 2: big he is of a star, but it's also about 624 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 2: us and how we feel about ourselves in that bit 625 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 2: of nostalgia and looking back and how Tiger made us feel. 626 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: And it's the cheering for the cheering for the old 627 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: guy again. But I don't think that you would have 628 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 2: any sort of thoughts that Tiger could ever compete for 629 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 2: another Major or another tour win, and playing a tour 630 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,239 Speaker 2: event doesn't seem to be really of his interest if 631 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: he ever was back healthy. But I still think that 632 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: he conjures up those feelings and emotions, and I just 633 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: didn't know, because I know as a golfer there'll be 634 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 2: golf fans who don't care. We kind of want to 635 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 2: move on and want to talk about this newer generation, 636 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: which is probably generation removed from what you know or 637 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: two from where Tiger was, but he still grabs the headlines. 638 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 2: He was there last night. He's the face of tgl 639 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 2: and he's doing the one on one with Scott Van 640 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 2: Pelt on ESPN. It's not like they were talking to 641 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: Ricky Fowler. It's not like they're talking to Max Homer, 642 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 2: like they're talking to Tiger Woods. 643 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 7: Hey, Dan, can I ask you, in particular from your perspective, 644 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 7: was he so good and so dominant that he spoiled 645 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 7: the sport for the future generation? Meaning that he was 646 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 7: so captivating and charismatic. Generations after him are just so 647 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 7: hard pressed to compare, and the media will just it'll 648 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 7: be hard for the media to pay the same attention 649 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 7: the way they did with him. 650 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 4: Yes, and I'll make this quick. 651 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 2: The first time I ever saw Tiger Woods, it felt 652 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 2: like there was this aura around him, like there was 653 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:53,239 Speaker 2: this there was this unworld like this unworldly figure. I 654 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 2: remember at the two thousand and eight US Open, he 655 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 2: had a wayward t shot on fifteen hits a magnificent shot, 656 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 2: wasn't even in the bunker on the hole, was on 657 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 2: the bunker of a parallel hole. Hits a shot on 658 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 2: the green and the crowd goes crazy. But I remember 659 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 2: Tiger walking up and again there's almost like this this 660 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: force around him because of just of who he was. 661 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 2: There was always that different feel around him that will 662 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 2: never make him like anybody else. But what you said 663 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 2: of it makes it worse for everybody else. The flip 664 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 2: side of the double edged sword of that is Tiger 665 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 2: inspired a generation of players that were so good that 666 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 2: he maybe couldn't have reeled off the majors if he 667 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 2: was fully healthy after say twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen. Everybody 668 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 2: who watched Tiger in the early two thousands was then 669 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 2: Now it spawned a whole new generation of golfers. The 670 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 2: Justin Thomas is the Jordan Speeths that we all talked about. 671 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: And then now with golf expanding the way it is, 672 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 2: has just gotten bigger and bigger. So to your point, yes, 673 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 2: there's something to that, but as well, there was something 674 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: that came back to Tiger where he did spawn generation on. 675 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 2: While that it reaches level of famous and popularity, it 676 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 2: may have cost him maybe a major or two along 677 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 2: the way. He could have won in twenty eighteen at 678 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 2: the PGA Championship. Brooks keepk ends up winning that none 679 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 2: that he spawned Brooks Koepka's era, But yeah, there is that. 680 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio had the best sports talk lineup in 681 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: the nation. 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You can hear 691 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 2: Aaron's Saturday Evenings eleven Eastern eight Pacific, Jason Martin, and 692 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 2: you can hear me with Carrie Rhodes coming up on 693 00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 2: Sunday five o'clock Eastern time, two Pacific as well. Sam's 694 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 2: here as a Jason Stewart and Isaac Lowancron. You've heard 695 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: Isaac throughout the day. Aaron say that Dante Moore not 696 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 2: going to the NFL Draft. Instead, the quarterback is going 697 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 2: to remain at Oregon, an interesting decision that shakes up 698 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 2: not only the NFL Draft but also college football. 699 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you probably have some thoughts on the 700 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 3: NFL side of things. I just find it interesting that, 701 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 3: you know, I think this is probably the college football 702 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 3: playoff that makes it indisputable that the Big Ten has 703 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 3: surpassed the SEC, a potential third straight national championship. But 704 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 3: I think when you factor in Oregon bringing back Dante 705 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 3: Moore to a team that basically lost everybody off of 706 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 3: last year's roster, the one with Dylan Gabriel, they were 707 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 3: kind of a year away, and Ohio State felt like 708 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 3: after everything they lost, they were a year away. You 709 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 3: add in the fact that Indiana is not going anywhere. 710 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 3: USC should probably have the best roster that they've had 711 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 3: under Lincoln Riley. Michigan, by the way, I think is 712 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 3: actually gonna be pretty good now the Kyle him, they 713 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 3: have a real head coach. I just bring it up 714 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 3: because I think we've been talking about the Big Tens 715 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 3: surpassing the SEC, and it feels like it could actually 716 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 3: get worse for the BIT for the SEC before it 717 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 3: gets better. 718 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 4: I'm curious. 719 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 2: I have an NFL thought, and the NFL thought is 720 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 2: this is that he didn't want to go to the Jets, 721 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: Like I think that's a I think that's the top 722 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 2: that the top scraping like of why would Dante Moore stay, 723 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 2: especially after the domino of Dylan Royola going to Oregon 724 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 2: and committing there. But More will be the starter in 725 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. There's changes at the coordinator positions for 726 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 2: Oregon as well. I don't know how much Nil plays 727 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 2: into all of this, Aaron, because I mean, he probably 728 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 2: would have been the second overall pick, you know, in 729 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 2: the draft. So being able to be at Oregon for 730 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 2: another year, maybe it's you feel like it's going to 731 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 2: be that's going to help your progression. The funny thing 732 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 2: is is a lot of people thought that ty Simpsons 733 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 2: should have stayed at Alabama, and now I think that 734 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 2: ty Simpson's is going to be one of the benefactors 735 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 2: of this Dante More decision because now you have one 736 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 2: less quarterback in the draft. 737 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no doubt Nil definitely played a role the 738 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 3: ability to make millions in college. But I do think 739 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 3: to your point, the Jets a quarterback wasteline. And Dante 740 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 3: Moore is still a young kid too. It sounds crazy 741 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 3: because he was a five star, played at UCLA for 742 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 3: a year set out. I think he's still only twenty 743 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 3: years old and he's only got about twelve thirteen starts 744 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 3: under his belt. So if you don't have to rush, 745 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 3: if you are making millions, there's a lot worse ways 746 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,240 Speaker 3: you could spend a calendar year than being at. 747 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,439 Speaker 2: Orgon, So the Oregon quarterback room will be intriguing. Nonetheless, 748 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 2: he is Aeron Torres. I'm Dan Beyer. Want to let 749 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 2: you know with the iHeartRadio app, you can stream us 750 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 2: wherever you happen to be. 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