WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: Venom (1981)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind production of My

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick, and it is the

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<v Speaker 1>Serpentine our here on Weird House Cinema. Because today, Rob

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<v Speaker 1>am I right that this is our first snake movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. I mean, we've we've certainly had some snakes

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<v Speaker 1>and even killer snakes pop up in some of our

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<v Speaker 1>Florida movies that we did, including z and Frogs. But

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<v Speaker 1>Venom is going to be our first true snake movie. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this movie is called Venom, but no, it's not that Venom. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that other one either. It's this is Venom

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty one, the original Venom, or well, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the original Venoms. I noticed that they are multiple films

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<v Speaker 1>with the title Venom, so I'm not sure if this

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<v Speaker 1>one is the true originator, but it's the one that

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about here today. Man. I love a good

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<v Speaker 1>snake romp uh. You know, a snake movie really it

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<v Speaker 1>just gets you by the guts sometimes. So I love,

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<v Speaker 1>as we've discussed before, the the camp uh Supernatural Pleasures

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<v Speaker 1>of the Layer of the White Worm um to to

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<v Speaker 1>even what I would argue is maybe the best creature

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<v Speaker 1>feature of all time, the n Amazon snake hunt movie Anacondah,

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<v Speaker 1>in which the cardinal rule of great snake movies is observed.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is what I would argue. The rule is

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<v Speaker 1>any creature movie featuring an unusually large or unusually deadly

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<v Speaker 1>reptile must also contain at least one human actor who

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<v Speaker 1>is more reptilian than the creature itself. Now, in the

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<v Speaker 1>case of Anaconda, the You've got your giant c g

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<v Speaker 1>I reptile, but it is being constantly upstaged by John

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<v Speaker 1>Voight delivering one of the most bizarre performances I have

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen in any movie. Uh. You know, you just

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<v Speaker 1>at him. You can tell his blood is room temperature.

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<v Speaker 1>When he blinks his eyes they go horizontal. Uh and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And his accent is just radioactive weirdness. He sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>he's trying to sort of be Peter Lorie doing a

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<v Speaker 1>like Spanish Count Dracula kind of thing, but also as

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<v Speaker 1>a ruthless jungle poacher with a ponytail. So that movie

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<v Speaker 1>definitely adheres to the rule. But I think today's pick

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<v Speaker 1>also observes the rule. That's right. Venom is very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>film in a large part because it features not one,

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<v Speaker 1>but two notoriously difficult actors, Oliver Read and Klass Kinsky.

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<v Speaker 1>Um uh and and there's actually another reportedly difficult actor

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<v Speaker 1>in this as well. Uh So you can really up

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<v Speaker 1>that to three. But it's especially evident with Reid and

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<v Speaker 1>Kinsky based on some of the stories and the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they share a lot of screen time in this film.

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<v Speaker 1>Um So, you can imagine if they were constantly shouting

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<v Speaker 1>at each other, uh and almost coming to blows, it

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<v Speaker 1>would it would have been a particularly terrible working environment

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone on the picture. You can feel the bad

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<v Speaker 1>vibes through the screen. Yes, Now, I mean luckily they're

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<v Speaker 1>both playing villains and the characters are also supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat hate each other, so on the screen, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>putting a setting aside anything we know about the making

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<v Speaker 1>of and these these actors themselves, you know, it ends

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<v Speaker 1>up working. But yeah, both Kinski and Read were kind

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<v Speaker 1>of larger than life figures. Both were noted hedonist in

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<v Speaker 1>their own ways, and they were they were both highly

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<v Speaker 1>talented actors whose careers were damaged by their difficult behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's fair to say that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at the very least, they were both very problematic figures. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're talking about their personal lives, I think, especially

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<v Speaker 1>in the case of Kinsky, that's sort of an understatement.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, yeah, I feel like every time I learned

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<v Speaker 1>something new about Kinsky, I I regret it. Now. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to focus that guess too much on

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<v Speaker 1>their personal lives. But you know, I admit that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily have the stomach for too much of that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. But in know, some argue that read

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<v Speaker 1>sort of played up this hell raiser image for the press,

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<v Speaker 1>though there seems no denying his his alcoholism and is

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<v Speaker 1>also kind of like brute, macho demeanor. Um. Kinsky, on

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<v Speaker 1>the other hand, was prone to two outbursts and tantrums,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems, and seems to have suffered from mental illness. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He also was apparently just reviled by many people who

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<v Speaker 1>had to work with him, and I think Werner Herzog

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stands apart is really the only filmmaker to

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<v Speaker 1>have been able to work with him multiple times for

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<v Speaker 1>a total of five different films. It's interesting to me, though,

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<v Speaker 1>that that Kinski played a vampire in two different nons

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<v Speaker 1>Ferato films um and Read played a werewolf in one

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<v Speaker 1>Hammer film. So, um, you know, in to a large extent,

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<v Speaker 1>we have vampires versus werewolves, um in this movie and

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes on this movie. Um, the vampire and

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<v Speaker 1>the werewolf really do seem like monstrous reflections of the

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<v Speaker 1>individual energies of these two actors. Okay, so we know

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<v Speaker 1>we're dealing with Klaus Kinski and Oliver Read both in

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<v Speaker 1>a snake movie. But the weird thing is, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just a snake movie. Really. What this is is a

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<v Speaker 1>a genre hybrid. This is a realistic crime thriller plus snake. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>another elevator pitch on that give it is a deadly

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<v Speaker 1>game of cat and mouse but mostly snake. Yeah, or

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<v Speaker 1>home alone but with Snake. All all good ways of

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<v Speaker 1>summing it up. Another way you could sum it up

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<v Speaker 1>is bad at crime, good at dying by Snake. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The bad at crime note is is good. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is one of those where those films where the criminal

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<v Speaker 1>enterprise is perhaps not entirely well thought out and or

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<v Speaker 1>bad or and or mistakes are made um that just

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<v Speaker 1>lead to catastrophe. So it's it's uh, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>a way, it's more in sort of the Fargo realm

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<v Speaker 1>of of crime cinema, like these are guys who really

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<v Speaker 1>screw up and uh and and and make mistakes that

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<v Speaker 1>are just catastrophic for their venture. I also want to

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<v Speaker 1>note that in terms of of boom mechanics, uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>think there are basically two kinds of snake movies. So

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<v Speaker 1>you could have like a big snake movie and a

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<v Speaker 1>stealth snake movie. So big snake movies would be more

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<v Speaker 1>like anaconda. They focus on the scale of snake in

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<v Speaker 1>order to intimidate, and this is either by having a

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<v Speaker 1>single very large snake or by having a large quantity

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<v Speaker 1>of regular sized snakes. But your stealth snake movies have

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<v Speaker 1>a snake instead that is regular sized, maybe especially deadly,

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<v Speaker 1>but it hides in places you don't expect and pops

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<v Speaker 1>out at you. And this is a film in the

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<v Speaker 1>latter camp. This is a stealth snake movie. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a movie about opening up the liquor cabinet and oops,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a black mamba and it bits you on the face.

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<v Speaker 1>Though it would be hilarious to try to imagine doing

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<v Speaker 1>the same premise, is this movie, like a realistic crime

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<v Speaker 1>thriller involving a kidnapping plot plus snake with like a

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<v Speaker 1>giant snake or a million snakes. Yeah, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you could do a million snakes. It could be

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<v Speaker 1>like the million snakes are set loose in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, isn't snakes on a plane essentially that It's

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<v Speaker 1>like there's something else going on, right, It's not just

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<v Speaker 1>snakes on the plane. Isn't there like a hostage scenario

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<v Speaker 1>or something? Can I confess something? I've never seen all

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<v Speaker 1>of Snakes on a plane. I started watching it and

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<v Speaker 1>never finished it. I have to assume there's something else

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<v Speaker 1>going on besides snakes. So yeah, I think there's I

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<v Speaker 1>think there is a perfunctory crime element, like somebody it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a witness in a mob case, or something is

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<v Speaker 1>being transported on a plane. But I would say snakes

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<v Speaker 1>on a plane goes big snake because the issue is

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<v Speaker 1>there are many snakes on the plane. This film, with

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<v Speaker 1>the with the single snake um threat, it reminds me

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the Sherlock Holmes adventure UM the Adventure

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<v Speaker 1>of the Speckled Band, which concerns like a very deadly

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<v Speaker 1>venomous snake that is responsible for a death, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be surprised if that was ultimately one of the

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<v Speaker 1>inspirations on this story. Well, I think it's got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of actors who were in Sherlock Holmes movies and

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<v Speaker 1>TV series in Britain. Right, Yeah, Yeah, we have more

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<v Speaker 1>than more than one Sherlock Holmes connection here for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Well let's go ahead and jump right into the trailer here.

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<v Speaker 1>Venom the kidnap that became a murder, that became a siege,

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<v Speaker 1>that became a death trap. Venom. The fear explodes, trapping

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<v Speaker 1>bath hostages and kidnappers in his grip. The panic spreads,

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<v Speaker 1>sending an entire police force into action. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>a terror unlike anything anyone has ever faced, and when

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<v Speaker 1>it uncoils to strike, your blood will run cold. Venom,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you feel, you will cheer m dude. This is

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<v Speaker 1>classic creature feature narration trailer narration. I absolutely love it.

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<v Speaker 1>What does he say? Venom the kidnap that became a murderer,

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<v Speaker 1>that became a siege, that became a death trap venom. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they do a really good job to sell on this

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<v Speaker 1>new in that trailer. Uh, huh and uh. What he

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<v Speaker 1>also says this line? I kept thinking about it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what does it mean? He says, whatever you feel you

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<v Speaker 1>will fear. Does that mean that once you start thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about snakes, like anytime something touches your body, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>you brush against the door frame as you're walking through it,

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<v Speaker 1>or I don't know, like a leaf falls on your shoulder,

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<v Speaker 1>You're always going to think it's a snake. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>so if we're being generous, I guess that that's maybe

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<v Speaker 1>what the ad copy here is trying to say. What what

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<v Speaker 1>what else would it mean? That's a weird line. Whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you feel you will fear? I don't know. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really make much sense within the context of the film,

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, I feel happy. Oh no, maybe it was

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<v Speaker 1>the director of the The actors they just said like

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, well, what's my character, what's my motivation? And

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<v Speaker 1>the director says, I don't know, whatever you feel you'll fear. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And they're like okay, because it does seem like, for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, a lot of these actors were just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of turned loose to just do their their thing

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<v Speaker 1>with the character. Uh. And there's not really necessarily a

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<v Speaker 1>great sense of who the underlying character is supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember how did you come across this movie? What? What?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the origin story here? Um? I have a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of different Blu rays of just trailers from like the

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<v Speaker 1>seventies and eighties, and I was watching a compilation and

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<v Speaker 1>this one popped up and I was like, oh, now

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<v Speaker 1>this this looks interesting. I suspected that because this is

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<v Speaker 1>very much one. If you see the trailer, you're like, yep, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta see that one. Well, let's jump right in

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<v Speaker 1>and talk about the various humans and the snakes involved

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<v Speaker 1>in this film. So the director is Piers Haggard born

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty nine. Interestingly enough, Toby Hooper was going to

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<v Speaker 1>direct this picture originally, and I think may have been

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<v Speaker 1>working on it a little bit, but then he had

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<v Speaker 1>to bow out for some reason, and I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>varying accounts as to why. Uh. And then enters Haggard here,

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<v Speaker 1>who had previously directed the one British horror film The

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<v Speaker 1>Blood on Satan's Claw, a Divorce, the Quartermass Conclusion, also

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<v Speaker 1>the Peter Seller's comedy the Fiendish plot of Dr Fu Manchu,

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<v Speaker 1>which which everyone seemed to Hate in nineteen eighty and

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<v Speaker 1>it's still very much hated today, uh, seemingly with good reason.

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<v Speaker 1>And he also directed various TV episodes. He went on

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<v Speaker 1>to do more TV and potentially interesting looking sci fi

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<v Speaker 1>um uh film TV film titled The Life Force Experiment

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen. Another interesting thing about him is he was

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<v Speaker 1>dialogue assistant on the nineteen sixty six film blow Up,

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<v Speaker 1>so he did the Life Force Experiment and he was

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<v Speaker 1>he came in to direct a movie that Toby Hooper

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<v Speaker 1>was going to direct, and Toby Hooper directed Life Force. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that there's any connection between Life Force

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<v Speaker 1>and the Life Force Experiment, but uh, certainly the names

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<v Speaker 1>are similar. Now, this is an adaptation of a novel.

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<v Speaker 1>It's worth stressing. Um. The original novel, Venom was written

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<v Speaker 1>by Alan Schullfield, who lived nineteen thirty one through two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand seventeen, a South African author who I think lived

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<v Speaker 1>most of it, may have lived most of his life

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<v Speaker 1>in England. I think he was like, you know, London

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<v Speaker 1>based or something. But this book came out in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy seven and it still seems to be in print.

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<v Speaker 1>You can you can go obtain this book and read it. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never read any of his novels, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>quite prolific. He also one horror novel called Cat's Eyes

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<v Speaker 1>under the name Lee Jordan's and it seems like he

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<v Speaker 1>was simply he was reasonably well regarded and often worked

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<v Speaker 1>African history and culture into his works. Um apparently best

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<v Speaker 1>known for his McCrae and Silver novels, which were London

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<v Speaker 1>based detective books. Now, the screenplay was written by Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Carrington born eight who wrote such films as Wait Until

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<v Speaker 1>Dark and Fear Is the Key, and he was active

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<v Speaker 1>in the sixties, seventies and eighties. All right, let's move

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<v Speaker 1>on to the actors. So um, our reptilian humanoid h

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<v Speaker 1>in this film is of course Klaus Kinski m who

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<v Speaker 1>lived nine through one. He plays the character Jack mel So.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of our main trio of criminals. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess he's kind of the mastermind. Um, he's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's supposed to be. I think we've we've mentioned at

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<v Speaker 1>one point that he's a member of the German under Underworld.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like a German Underworld figure and he has of

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<v Speaker 1>course flown in to London to uh to mastermind this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of. I'm not sure if he's the mastermind or not,

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<v Speaker 1>but anyway, he's going to be one of the main

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<v Speaker 1>operatives in this kidnapping plot. Uh yeah, I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>played as the mastermind because there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>scenes of him pointing a gun at Oliver Read and

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<v Speaker 1>being like, remember, you know you you don't drink whiskey

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<v Speaker 1>until I tell you to, alright. So Kinsky, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the German born actor, perhaps best remembered today for his

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<v Speaker 1>smoldering presence and some of Werner Herzog's best known works

0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:41.000
<v Speaker 1>such as Geary, The Wrath of God, woyzeck Um, nos Ferrato,

0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:45.120
<v Speaker 1>The Vampire, Fitzgeraldo, and Cobra Verde. He also had a

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<v Speaker 1>small but memorable role in Dr Shivago In and accounts

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<v Speaker 1>of anyone who had to work with Kinsky, they tend

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<v Speaker 1>to run evolve around two different things. His raw talent,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that, undeniably like there's something electric in a

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<v Speaker 1>Klaus Kinsky performance, but also intense difficulty and displeasure of

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<v Speaker 1>working with him. It seems to be a common theme.

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<v Speaker 1>Um Herzog managed it, but also had a just legendarily

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<v Speaker 1>explosive relationship with Kinsky and at times, uh from from

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<v Speaker 1>you know stuff I've watched documentaries and so forth, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like he was able to get his the best

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<v Speaker 1>stuff out of Kinsky by uh by sort of manipulating

0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.920
<v Speaker 1>him like, for instance, um, wearing him out with takes.

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<v Speaker 1>In the case of a gear a like a Kinsky

0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.960
<v Speaker 1>has this monologue at the end of it, and Kinsky

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<v Speaker 1>thought he needed to rage through it, and Herzog reportedly

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<v Speaker 1>just had him do it over and over again until

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<v Speaker 1>he was just worn out and could only deliver it

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<v Speaker 1>at the energy that Herzog wanted. Um. So, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I was an insightful story about about working

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<v Speaker 1>with Kinsky. It seems like he was raging a lot. Yes, yes, um,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly behind the scenes. Uh so. Kinsky did a number

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<v Speaker 1>of spaghetti westerns as well, including for a few dollars More,

0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:09.920
<v Speaker 1>as well as various European genre films. He played a

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<v Speaker 1>vampire in Herzog's nineteen seventy nine Nosferatu film, as well

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<v Speaker 1>as the nineteen eighty eight film Vampire in Venice. This

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to, I think be a sequel to nos

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<v Speaker 1>Ferrato in some respects, but um, Kinski reportedly refused to

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<v Speaker 1>wear any any vampire makeup for it, and so he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't look like nos Ferrato in it per se. After

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<v Speaker 1>a career of butting heads with various directors, he finally

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<v Speaker 1>directed himself in nineteen nine Paganini, which he also wrote,

0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and this was his final film. Now a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>interesting facts. Um Allegedly, Kinsky turned down the role of

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<v Speaker 1>Major Taught in Raiders of the Lost Arc because he

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<v Speaker 1>hated the script. Uh, and Venom is the picture he

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<v Speaker 1>did instead. Oh, both snake centric movies. Yeah. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>of course Ronald Lacey wound up doing the character of

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<v Speaker 1>Major Todd, which I think he's so great in it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the best thing that could have happened. As

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<v Speaker 1>for Kinsky's performance in Venom, here, I'd say he's he

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<v Speaker 1>what we see on the screen is is very good.

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<v Speaker 1>He's menacing, he exudes evil very much. Plays to his strengths.

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<v Speaker 1>Though there is a scene where he has to fight

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<v Speaker 1>a rubber snake, and let's be honest, that's a tall

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<v Speaker 1>order for any actor. I think his snake wrestling scene

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<v Speaker 1>is is a highlight of the film, especially because it

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<v Speaker 1>turns into a gunfight with a snake. Yes, yeah, a lot. Hap. Yeah,

0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.399
<v Speaker 1>that's a it's a it's a great climax. You just

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't think that if a snake is wrapping around you

0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:39.120
<v Speaker 1>and you're trying to fight it off, the the solution

0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:41.439
<v Speaker 1>you would come to is trying to shoot the snake

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<v Speaker 1>in the head with the pistol. Right, Yeah, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful scene, though, I'm I think Herzog could have

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<v Speaker 1>gotten a better, better take out of him. He was

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<v Speaker 1>just like warn him down until he got the right energy. Okay,

0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:58.360
<v Speaker 1>So Kinsky is playing our our like lead reptilian criminal

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<v Speaker 1>in this, but then we've also got a a more

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<v Speaker 1>brutal criminal, right that is Dave, the chauffeur played by

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<v Speaker 1>Oliver Read. Oliver re lived through English actor with piercing eyes.

0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Really his as far as like eyes first acting goes um.

0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Read was a master of this. You know, he's just

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<v Speaker 1>setting there smoldering and looking at you with murder eyes.

0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh he uses the murder eyes in this. Part of

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<v Speaker 1>the problem though, is like there's there's really not any

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<v Speaker 1>surprise so as the plot has revealed because we first

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<v Speaker 1>see all of a Read, I don't know, thirty seconds

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<v Speaker 1>into the film, just acting in his capacity as a chauffeur,

0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:40.840
<v Speaker 1>and he already looks like he is not just getting

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<v Speaker 1>ready to do murders, but has already done them. He

0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:45.719
<v Speaker 1>looks like he just came back in a hurry from

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<v Speaker 1>doing murders. Yes, absolutely, Um. He always had a knack

0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:54.399
<v Speaker 1>for playing brute, macho characters. UH and of course he

0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:58.120
<v Speaker 1>increasingly earned a reputation for hell raising, drinking, and being

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to work with. He had his first big leading

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<v Speaker 1>role in the Hammer film Um The Curse of the

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<v Speaker 1>Werewolf from Terence Fisher from UH came out in ninety one,

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<v Speaker 1>and he landed some huge roles in such films as

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty eight Oliver and which he plays the villain

0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Bill Sykes. He played Athos and Three Musketeers in seventy

0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:20.200
<v Speaker 1>three and its sequel in seventy four, and he continued

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<v Speaker 1>to do a lot of villain roles and roles in

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<v Speaker 1>horror films. He worked with Ken Russell several times, including

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<v Speaker 1>Women in Love and of course The Devil's in which

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<v Speaker 1>he really delivers a memorable performance. He played the god

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<v Speaker 1>Vulcan and Terry Gilliams The Adventures of Baron Muchausen and

0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:40.960
<v Speaker 1>other notable roles at least to me include Disney's Condor

0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Man in one, in which he plays this the villain

0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:50.760
<v Speaker 1>in this ridiculous kind of superhero James Bond kind of film. Uh,

0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:53.440
<v Speaker 1>he plays the I guess he's the hero, and David

0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Cronenberg's The Brood is not the hero. He's not the hero.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I've forgotten most of that film. He's the villain.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a manipulating psychiatrist sort of. Yeah. He plays an

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<v Speaker 1>unorthodox psychiatrist who has like a retreat where he leads

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<v Speaker 1>people through these strange exercises and gets them to um

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<v Speaker 1>uh to sort of like turn their their their psychic

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<v Speaker 1>pain and trauma into like physical external manifestations. So like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, he leads people through these exercises where

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<v Speaker 1>like their pain is turned into in the case of

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<v Speaker 1>one character, like a physical tumor, but in the case

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<v Speaker 1>of other characters like like literal like little like beings

0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:39.800
<v Speaker 1>or monsters that run around. The Brood is a gross movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Before warned if you're gonna if you're gonna venture there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Samantha Egger is in that and I have to I

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<v Speaker 1>have to look it up. Let's see what Oliver Reads

0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:51.359
<v Speaker 1>character's name. What was his weird cronenbergie and character Dr

0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:54.840
<v Speaker 1>hal Raglan not not that weird as far as cronenberg

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<v Speaker 1>names go. Yeah, my memory is just that he's like

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<v Speaker 1>a weird, sort of unethical orthodox psychiatrist who's doing a

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<v Speaker 1>combination of something like you know, like scientology auditing at

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<v Speaker 1>the alongside, like creating tulpas and stuff. Okay, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>been a while, so I've seen that one. Oh, we

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<v Speaker 1>should also mention. Oliver Read was, of course in Ridley

0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Scott's Gladiator in two thousand and This was his final film.

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<v Speaker 1>He died during the filming of it in Malta, I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's the fun fact. Venom is not the only

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<v Speaker 1>Oliver Read snake movie. He also appeared in nine three

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<v Speaker 1>Spasms alongside Peter Fonda. And this one Joe is a

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<v Speaker 1>giant snake movie. Okay, big snake instead of stealth snake. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so um that you can look up. Various stories about

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<v Speaker 1>the production of Venom. Basically, Read and Kinsky famously did

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<v Speaker 1>not get along on the film, reportedly hated each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and Read allegedly kept intentionally setting Kinsky off. Um. Which

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<v Speaker 1>sounds absolutely dreadful. You know, you already have Kinsky, who

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, has a reputation for being Satan, Yes, Satan,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have and then you have Oliver Read

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<v Speaker 1>provoking Satan and like, uh, pranking Satan and you know,

0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:11.080
<v Speaker 1>just to get a rial out of him. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this sounds absolutely dreadful for everybody else in the production.

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<v Speaker 1>That being said, much like we said with Kinsky Read,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like he's good in this. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like at times maybe they weren't sure exactly

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<v Speaker 1>who this character was supposed to be. Sometimes he just

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be like loud and abusive because he needed

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<v Speaker 1>to do something in the scene. Um. But but also

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the better parts of the performance they drive

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<v Speaker 1>home that this is a guy who yes, has signed

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<v Speaker 1>on to be part of a kidnapping plot, but also

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<v Speaker 1>has misgivings about it. And there are times where you

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<v Speaker 1>see like, maybe, um, his gentler nature shine through just

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, as if to give you hope that

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<v Speaker 1>he might turn good guy and strangle Kloskinski's character Jock

0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:57.720
<v Speaker 1>mel Uh, though of course that doesn't come to pass.

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<v Speaker 1>He remains a bad guy throughout, never really has the

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<v Speaker 1>face turn. Uh. Mainly you get the idea that the

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<v Speaker 1>moments where he's showing misgivings are actually just like when

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<v Speaker 1>it would it would be bad to go to prison.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a true change of heart. I will say this as well, though,

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<v Speaker 1>um Reid has a wonderful mustache in this film. Often

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<v Speaker 1>often he had wonderful mustaches and uh, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>no exception. But actually the star power in the movie

0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:37.359
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really stop there with with the criminals, because this

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<v Speaker 1>movie has a number of other actors who are well

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<v Speaker 1>known and uh and quite respected that. This is something

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<v Speaker 1>I remember. I watched the Ciskele and Hibert review of

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<v Speaker 1>this movie in which Hubert did not like it, but

0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Ciskell did, and he, you know, occasionally, Jeane Ciskele, you

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<v Speaker 1>could see there was like a ridiculous creature horror movie

0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:01.200
<v Speaker 1>and you could just tell he just kind of liked

0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:03.720
<v Speaker 1>it and had a hard time explaining why, but he

0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>just liked it, and he just will like, yeah, yeah,

0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought Wes Craven's Shocker it was fun. You know,

0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:13.879
<v Speaker 1>it was interesting. Maybe it's not interesting, but you liked it.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, admit you liked it, um and he I

0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:18.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know why I'm talking like that, because he did.

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<v Speaker 1>He recommended it on the show, Um and he did

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<v Speaker 1>with like I think he also liked Roger Corman's Carnosaur

0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:27.880
<v Speaker 1>and and stuff like that. So occasionally he just had

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<v Speaker 1>a soft spot for creature films. But one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of critics talked about was how wow, you

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<v Speaker 1>really got an a level cast in this movie. And

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<v Speaker 1>so the casting goes on with Sterling Hayden. Yeah, Sterling Hayden.

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<v Speaker 1>Oftentimes it looks like he has top billing. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why. I don't really know how billing order goes

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:48.600
<v Speaker 1>and especially over the decades of a film that's come out.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Sterling Hayden plays a Grandpa Howard Anderson, Hey

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:58.600
<v Speaker 1>k Grandpa Safari. That's what I kept thinking of him as. UM.

0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 1>But he this is this was guy was a big name.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, I mean Sterling Hayden. He was in Uh.

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:06.359
<v Speaker 1>He was a villain in the Godfather. He plays a

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:10.399
<v Speaker 1>a corrupt police chief who is helping one of the

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 1>other families with their with their schemes. He gets shot

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<v Speaker 1>in the forehead by al Pacino. Oh yes, and that

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:21.040
<v Speaker 1>that very memorable scene in the restaurant, right, yeah, yeah.

0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 1>But he also he also plays a great villain role

0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:27.720
<v Speaker 1>in Doctor Strange Love. He is that he plays General

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<v Speaker 1>Jack d Ripper. He's the guy who initiates the uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the sneak attack on the Soviet Union that sets off

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:36.200
<v Speaker 1>the whole chain of events on the plot because he

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<v Speaker 1>has quite clearly consumed a lot of anti communist propaganda

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<v Speaker 1>and lost his mind. He's the character who believes that

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Fluora Nation is stealing our precious bodily fluids. Um. He

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<v Speaker 1>was also in Asphalt Jungle. He was in Robert Altman's

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<v Speaker 1>The Long Goodbye Now. He lived nineteen sixteen through six

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<v Speaker 1>and this was his last feature film role, but it

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 1>kept off a long career full of a lot of

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:06.399
<v Speaker 1>leading man roles, especially westerns and noir films. Um he is.

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I was not prepared to enjoy his performance as much

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:11.639
<v Speaker 1>as I did, but I feel like he he's a

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:15.359
<v Speaker 1>lot of fun as Grandpa Safari here in part because

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:17.359
<v Speaker 1>maybe it comes down to the fact that I do

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:20.640
<v Speaker 1>feel like most of the actors in this film, we're

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 1>just kind of turned loose in the house, much like

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:25.560
<v Speaker 1>a wild beast and just like do whatever. And I

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 1>like the strange energy he brings to this performance at times.

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I yeah, I agree. So the other two characters we've

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:35.879
<v Speaker 1>talked about already are are criminals and and uh and

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 1>bring a lot of menace. Uh. Grandpa Safari here is

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:42.120
<v Speaker 1>he's just like a big old ball of fun. He

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:46.199
<v Speaker 1>plays this character like a uh an old rough and

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 1>tumble rascal. Yeah, and also I mean he's he's the

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:52.560
<v Speaker 1>grandpa and the grandson is one of the main characters there.

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 1>And like the grandsons, seems to suffer from some severe

0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 1>form of asthma which requires the house to be at

0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 1>a constant seventy five degrees and he has to have

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:02.200
<v Speaker 1>like a committed fire. And his mom seems very much

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:03.960
<v Speaker 1>of the mindset like he needs to be kept in

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:06.639
<v Speaker 1>the house. But Grandpa was like, Oh, what you need Sonday,

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get you a cab right across town to

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:11.640
<v Speaker 1>buy yourself a new snake. Get to do it all

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:15.639
<v Speaker 1>by yourself. And of course that becomes central to the plot. Now,

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:17.679
<v Speaker 1>maybe we should specify in the plot that there is

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>a mix up. Grandpa did not buy his grandson a

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:24.119
<v Speaker 1>black bomba on purpose. Yeah, I thought that's where it

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 1>was going because I knew that a black mamba was

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 1>going to be introduced into the house and I was like, oh, man,

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Grandpa's this is a bit reckless. But now it was

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:33.960
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be a normal, like non venomous snake, some

0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:37.919
<v Speaker 1>sort of acceptable pet species, and there is a mix up,

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>but the a list cast continues. Yes, because we've we've

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 1>talked about the criminals, we also have to have a

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 1>representative of law and order, and in this case we

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 1>have Scotland Yards Commander William Bullock, played by Nicole Williamson,

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 1>who lived nineteen thirty six through two thousand and eleven.

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 1>I knew him best, and I think that a lot

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:00.119
<v Speaker 1>of a lot of listeners, a lot of viewers of

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 1>films would probably know him best as Merlin in the

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 1>endlessly Shiny Camelot film ex Caliber, which is a super

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 1>fun performance. As I remember, I've never seen it. Oh,

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 1>it's it's good. It's very shiny, like the armor gleams

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 1>um like it's you know, it's reflecting the light of

0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 1>the sun at all times. So it's very stylish and

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 1>has a wonderful cast. He also plays a similar role

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:32.959
<v Speaker 1>in Spawn. Uh. He plays this character Cagliostro, who's kind

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:35.439
<v Speaker 1>of like I think, basically portrayed as like a wizard

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 1>character that helps spawn. Um helps him fight demons, trains

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 1>him or something. He's kind of his mentor character and

0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 1>that was his final film role. He's kind of like,

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 1>what does he wear, like a cowboy hat and a coat?

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Kind of yeah, I remember correctly they wanted him to

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 1>grow a beard and he's like, no, I'm not doing that.

0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Like they wanted him to be more of a wizard.

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 1>But he was a highly regard an actor um on

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:06.000
<v Speaker 1>the stage and screen. Other credits include The Exorcist three. Uh,

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 1>The Seven Percent Solution. He played in that. He played

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Sherlock Holmes. This is the film adaptation of the Nicholas

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Meyer novel. Uh. And uh, you know Nicholas Meyer we

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 1>talked about in terms of time after time. Uh. Well,

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 1>you know we mentioned that he wrote the novel The

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Seven Percent Solution and it was made into the film. Well,

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 1>this was the Sherlock he was in. So Williamson was

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 1>also in Robin and Marion. He was in ninety nine

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Hamlet playing Hamlet. He was in a TV movie version

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 1>of of Mice and men playing Lenny, and while very

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 1>talented on both stage and screen, he was also known

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 1>to be a bit erratic, was a heavy drinker later

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 1>in life, and was said to be difficult to work with. So, uh,

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>so you know we have so, we have Read, we

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 1>have Kinsky, and we also have Williamson, though I guess

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the situation is Read and Kinsky. We're working together together,

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 1>like they shared so much screen time, and for the

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>most part, Williamson's character is just standing outside like shouting.

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 1>We're not even quite shouting. It's one of those movies

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.719
<v Speaker 1>where where his character is using just a normal speaking

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 1>voice but can be heard inside a house a good

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>distance away. Yeah, they spend a lot of uh. There

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 1>are multiple scenes where they're negotiating like, uh, we need

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 1>a car and we need money, and then he goes

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 1>away and then he has like a meeting with all

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>his little police lieutenants, and then he comes back and

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 1>they talk again about how they need a car and

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 1>they need money. Yeah. I'd say, well, Williamson is good

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:38.080
<v Speaker 1>in this, but there's not a lot to this particular character.

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 1>He's just that sensible British cop on the scene. You know,

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 1>he's our he's our embodiment of British working class law

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 1>and order. Yeah, he's got a he's got a nice

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 1>accent in it. I mean, but this character doesn't have

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 1>a whole lot to do. Now. The next character, I

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:57.719
<v Speaker 1>would say, though, brings a surprising amount of weird energy

0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>that also makes this movie come alive, and that is

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Sarah Miles playing the snake expert Dr Marion Stow. I

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>really liked her. She she had a certain um uh,

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of distracted electricity kind of coming off of her

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>head in all of her scenes, if you know what

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean. Yeah, yeah, she was good in this um uh.

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Sarah Miles was born one and another connection to nineteen

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 1>sixty six blow Up, So Miles had actually had a

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 1>major role in uh in this adaptation of Julio Cortazar's

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 1>story Uh. I can't remember the Novello short story offhand,

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 1>um that has adapted into this film in nineteen sixty six.

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Other titles on her filmography include Ryan's Daughter, Hope and

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Glory White, Mischief and more. There are a lot of

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 1>good scenes of her talking to the police about snakes

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 1>and so, you know, Coppled, She'll just be like, I

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>am a toxicologist in the and the copp will be like,

0:31:56.280 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 1>what's that poisons? Yeah, she's she's good. Uh. The other

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:06.959
<v Speaker 1>great performance in this, in my opinion, is our third kidnapper.

0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Um who the character is uh Louise Andrews, played by

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Susan George. Uh So. George was born nineteen fifty, probably

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 1>best known for playing Amy in Sam Peck and Pose

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 1>straw Dogs. Other titles include Dirty Mary, Crazy Larry Man, Dingo,

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 1>and Enter the Ninja, as well as uh Tintorea, Killer Shark,

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 1>The Sorceress starring Boris Coral Karloff and Dr Jacqueline mr

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Hyde from nineteen seventy two, a musical starring Kirk Douglas. Yes,

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:41.959
<v Speaker 1>Susan George is good in this, she's so. Yeah. Like

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 1>you said, she's our third criminal in the trio. So

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you got Kinsky, you got Oliver Reed, and you've got

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Susan George and they're scheming to do this kidnapping plot

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 1>to get a bunch of ransom money. Uh. Of course

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the criminals in this movie are bad at crime, so

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 1>they keep failing. But you can Uh, I don't know.

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 1>It's fun the way you see her, like st uggling

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 1>with things not going their way and she also, I

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 1>gotta say, really sells a snake bite to the face

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>death scene quite well. Yes, I would say, uh, perhaps

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:13.479
<v Speaker 1>the greatest death by snake bite scene in any motion picture.

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 1>It's a tour de force in which she she used

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 1>thrashes around, she cries out and basically goes just full

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>exorcist towards the end, like you know, all the way

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 1>into the into like wheel pose or you know, a

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:29.200
<v Speaker 1>reverse crab or something. She turns blue. There's a lot

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:32.240
<v Speaker 1>of blood coming out of her mouth. Yeah, so she's

0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 1>she she's a lot of fun um in passing. I'll

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 1>say that the mother in this so this would be

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Grandpa Safari's um daughter or is it his daughter in law?

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember at any rate. Ruth Hopkins played by

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Cornelia Sharp, probably best known for Serpico Uh. She also

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 1>appeared in the Reincarnation of Peter Proud, The Next Man

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:59.720
<v Speaker 1>opposite Sean Connery, Open Season, and Hey, The Adventures of

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Blue Oh Nash. She's just sort of in the beginning

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 1>and the end of this movie, though, because a lot

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 1>of it's like she's gone and the sun has been

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:11.719
<v Speaker 1>left there with Grandpa played by Sterling Hayden and that's

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 1>when the crime is supposed to take place. Yeah, I

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 1>mean the whole thing. It's it's kind of a home

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 1>alone movie. It's also it's it's weird. I don't know

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:23.399
<v Speaker 1>if you had this experience, but I felt like this

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:27.480
<v Speaker 1>movie felt like an adaptation of like a Simpsons Treehouse

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:31.400
<v Speaker 1>of Horror episode that doesn't exist, you know, like, or

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's just that a Treehouse of Horror episode would

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:36.240
<v Speaker 1>be perfect based on this film. You could have Grahanamba

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Simpson in there, you have have Bart and uh, I

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:42.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know who else would would be involved? Who you

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:46.320
<v Speaker 1>would cast as our our kidnappers? Oh? Yes, so I

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 1>guess kis Snake? Oh Snake, I mean, let's see to

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:52.839
<v Speaker 1>play for Oliver Read, he would need to be sort

0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 1>of a cross between Snake and groundskeeper Willie. Um. Oh yeah,

0:34:58.200 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know exactly how would work out? Was so

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Ski is sort of Mr Burns, But I guess he

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't need the money, but I don't know he'd want

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 1>it anyway. Um yeah, yeah, it would work out somehow.

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh but hey, this movie also has Michael Goff in it.

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, in a strange role because Okay, so So,

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 1>first of all, if you're forgetting who this actor is, uh,

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 1>it's it's Alfred from Tim Burton Batman film and the

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Batman sequels through Batman Forever. Um. He's a guy who

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:34.319
<v Speaker 1>did a lot of work prior to that, including performances

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:37.800
<v Speaker 1>in The Boys from Brazil, Satan's Slave, Crucible of Horror,

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 1>trog Women in Love, How, Horror of Dracula, and titles

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 1>going all the way back into the nineteen forties. And

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 1>in this he plays what like an expert snake catcher

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 1>who never does anything. Yeah, he he shows up later

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 1>in the movie. So this movie has multiple snake experts.

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:57.840
<v Speaker 1>There's the one played by Sarah miles Um who is

0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 1>the toxicologiston and you meet her early on, but then

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:05.319
<v Speaker 1>she eventually also gets taken hostage by the criminals. And

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:07.880
<v Speaker 1>then so the police after that are working with this

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 1>character played by Michael Goff. But he he's just got

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 1>sort of like one of those snake hooks and he's

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 1>standing there beside the police as they're like trying to

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 1>bust into the house. Yeah, and you you keep thinking, well,

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 1>he's going to be called upon for more than his expertise,

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:25.040
<v Speaker 1>but no, he's not Uh. The fun part of this, though,

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 1>is his character's name is David Ball, and the real

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:32.319
<v Speaker 1>David Ball, an overseer of reptiles at the London Zoo,

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:35.800
<v Speaker 1>was the snake wrangler and snake advisor on this film.

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>So I guess Golf's character is kind of just a

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 1>nod uh to his his help with the film. I

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:44.800
<v Speaker 1>was reading about this in a New York Times article

0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 1>about um about the snake wrangling in Venom, and it

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 1>was titled In Venom, the Snake Steals the Show and

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:56.880
<v Speaker 1>it shares a number of interesting production facts. I love

0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:59.600
<v Speaker 1>that there is an article in the New York Times

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 1>in night eighty two about Venom that is not just

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:06.360
<v Speaker 1>a review of the movie. It's like, yeah, our readers

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 1>need more Venom content. Yeah, but it did just here

0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 1>some fun stuff, like apparently they shot ten hours of

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:15.400
<v Speaker 1>snake footage for the film, and of course that gets

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, reduced down to just you know, very little

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:22.240
<v Speaker 1>of that, just minutes of footage. Um, they used five

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 1>different actual black mambas in the picture, So when you

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 1>see black mamba's striking at the camera and and slithering about,

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 1>it's the real thing. That's that's the real snake um

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>for the most part. They also apparently had one non

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:40.640
<v Speaker 1>venomous rat snake that they used for some scenes. They

0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:44.920
<v Speaker 1>had plastic snakes made from actual casts of of mamba's

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 1>that's of course with Klaskinski winds up fighting at the end.

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 1>And they also had a hundred thousand dollar robots snake

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:54.319
<v Speaker 1>that apparently looked terrible, so we barely see it in

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:56.759
<v Speaker 1>the final film. Yeah. I think the sentence in the

0:37:56.880 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 1>article is something like the robot snake could ear up

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 1>and open its mouth. It cost a hundred thousand dollars

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:05.399
<v Speaker 1>to make, and it appears for one third of one

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:09.400
<v Speaker 1>second in the final cut. Now, according to u uh

0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 1>to David Ball in this article, black mambas are very

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 1>high strung and they feel threatened by anything within six

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:18.399
<v Speaker 1>ft of them. They have really potent venom and they're

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:22.279
<v Speaker 1>very effective at delivering it, usually via multiple bites, which

0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 1>is something we see in the film. Uh and and

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:27.440
<v Speaker 1>it's it is a very impressive snake. There's one at

0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Zoo Atlanta and I've seen it many times. They can

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 1>they can reach lengths of fourteen feet. Yeah, they tend

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 1>to be nervous. They packed tremendous venom. It's the largest

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:40.280
<v Speaker 1>venomous snake in Africa and the second largest venomous snake

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 1>in the world, right behind the keen cobra. It's not

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:46.880
<v Speaker 1>actually black, but the inside of its mouth is black

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:50.799
<v Speaker 1>and that's what it flares as a warning to, you know,

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 1>anyone who makes it nervous. Now a bit of monster

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 1>science on this. The the the movie repeatedly emphasizes that

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 1>the black Mamba is the most I think it actually

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 1>uses the word poisonous I think you would want to

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:08.080
<v Speaker 1>say venomous instead. But whichever one they say poisonous or

0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:11.919
<v Speaker 1>venomous snake in the world, which uh, I mean, it's

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 1>difficultly there are different ways you can measure that, but

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:17.319
<v Speaker 1>just by your standard like pure LD fifty ratings of

0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 1>snake venom and mice, this is not true. I should

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 1>also point out, as with pretty much any snake, reptile,

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 1>amphibian sort of movie, it's always worth going to California

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:31.240
<v Speaker 1>herbs dot com. They have a section about snake films

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 1>and which they weigh in on different on different snakes

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:36.759
<v Speaker 1>and different films, and they have a they have an

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 1>article on um on on venom here and uh. Basically

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 1>they applaud the use of real black bombas and that

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 1>they add quote oddly enough, the snake doesn't try to

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:49.520
<v Speaker 1>get out or hide as you'd expect a snake to do.

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:53.960
<v Speaker 1>All it wants to do is kill people. It sort

0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 1>of hunts the people in the house. Yeah. Yeah, Yeah.

0:39:56.560 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 1>It's one of the most alluded Chris things about this

0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:04.920
<v Speaker 1>movie is that, yes, I I totally believe everything I've

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:08.720
<v Speaker 1>read about the black Mamba being a potentially dangerous snake

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:12.840
<v Speaker 1>that you absolutely don't want running around in your house. Um,

0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:16.440
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't want to, you know, go poking around haphazardly

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:19.360
<v Speaker 1>where you knew they might be. But on the other hand,

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's implied in this film where like if

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 1>you were to call the police and say there's a

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:26.080
<v Speaker 1>black Momba in my house, the police would just be like,

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:29.240
<v Speaker 1>we are legally declaring everyone in the house dead because

0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:32.399
<v Speaker 1>there's no way you're going to survive. Yes, So, though,

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:34.879
<v Speaker 1>as you're saying, I do want to re emphasize, given

0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 1>what I said a minute ago, by these like LD

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 1>fifty charts, that is not necessarily the most venomous snake

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:43.400
<v Speaker 1>in the world. But as you are correct that you

0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:46.120
<v Speaker 1>absolutely don't want to be bitten by one. These are

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 1>people do die from black mamba bites all the time. Now,

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:03.399
<v Speaker 1>we always mentioned the cinematographer on films, but on this

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:09.200
<v Speaker 1>film we have Gilbert Taylor, who lived nineteen fourteen through UM.

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:13.280
<v Speaker 1>He was the cinematographer on such films as Star Wars, Flash, Gordon,

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 1>the Omen, The Frank Angela Dracula Film, Polanski's Macbeth and Repulsion,

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Hitchcock's Frenzy, Doctor Strange Love, in various other titles. UM.

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:24.839
<v Speaker 1>He also did a bit of TV, including episodes of

0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:28.480
<v Speaker 1>The Avengers. This movie doesn't really stand out to me

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:32.080
<v Speaker 1>in in terms of a lot of cinematography choices. Uh,

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:34.960
<v Speaker 1>but though there is something that happens quite a bit,

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 1>which is mamba cam where you are seeing from the

0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:40.360
<v Speaker 1>snake's point of view. Is it like crawls through heating ducks?

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 1>And uh and so yeah, okay, that's fun. Well, and

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:48.280
<v Speaker 1>then you know, we do have I guess the shots

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:52.840
<v Speaker 1>of the snake often feel very well executed. Uh. You know,

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:55.239
<v Speaker 1>at times they're basically doing the Raiders thing I think

0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 1>where they have some sort of plexiglass screen so that

0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:01.239
<v Speaker 1>the snake can can jump out, can leap at the

0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:03.840
<v Speaker 1>camera and you don't have to worry about it actually

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 1>biting anyone. As for the music on this picture, it

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:12.440
<v Speaker 1>is Michael Common, who lived through two thousand and three.

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 1>We've mentioned him on the show before because he scored

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Free Jack and Tales from the Crypt Demon Night, as

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 1>well as such movies as Highlander, Robin Hood, Prints of Thieves, Brazil,

0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 1>The Dead Zone, Event Horizon, which he did with the

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:31.800
<v Speaker 1>orb uh so uh, a known commodity in various genre films.

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I'd say that the for me, anyway, I felt like

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:38.440
<v Speaker 1>the score in this movie was was traditional. It was fine.

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:41.840
<v Speaker 1>It did everything you want a score to do. It helped,

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, drive home these thrilling moments and uh and

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 1>snake scares. But other than that, it's not the kind

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:49.839
<v Speaker 1>of thing I would want to seek out. I thought

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:52.319
<v Speaker 1>there were some strange choices in terms of scoring, not

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 1>because the music was bad, but I thought like sort

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:57.600
<v Speaker 1>of oddly placed. Maybe we can talk about those a

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 1>little bit when we break down the plot. Well, let's

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:01.920
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and get into the plot, all right. So

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:04.960
<v Speaker 1>the movie begins with a shot of a schoolhouse. Kind

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:09.360
<v Speaker 1>of a weird choice for a crime thriller. Plus Snake movie.

0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:12.719
<v Speaker 1>But uh, I guess you know it's about an attempted

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:15.239
<v Speaker 1>kidnapping of a rich boy, so we we gotta see

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:16.840
<v Speaker 1>the boy getting out of school. I guess there's an

0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:19.840
<v Speaker 1>American flag flying out on the balcony in front of

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:22.919
<v Speaker 1>the school, but it's clearly in Britain. And we see

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>a sign later saying it's the American Academy of London.

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:28.880
<v Speaker 1>So I think this is a school for American children,

0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:32.920
<v Speaker 1>the children of diplomats and stuff like that, uh, in London.

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 1>And so Philip is going to the school and we

0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:39.239
<v Speaker 1>meet him on the stairs reading a book and his

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 1>mom runs up to him saying, oh, this is the

0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:45.719
<v Speaker 1>limit you'll catch cold, and he's you know, he's clearly like, oh,

0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:47.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be safe. I don't want to

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 1>bundle up. I want adventure. So you know, he's like, oh, mom,

0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:54.759
<v Speaker 1>I will say that the actor they have playing the boy,

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:57.759
<v Speaker 1>um Lance Holcom. Uh. He was really good in this,

0:43:57.920 --> 0:43:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Like he has kind of a kind of a Charlie

0:43:59.880 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 1>and Chocolate factory sort of vibe to him. Okay, But

0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 1>so his mom takes him away to a waiting sedan

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:10.839
<v Speaker 1>where Oliver Reed is just looming nearby in a comically

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:14.719
<v Speaker 1>brutish fashion, And I love the very first time we

0:44:14.719 --> 0:44:16.720
<v Speaker 1>see him, it's less than a minute into the movie.

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 1>He is dressed in a formal chauffeur's uniform with a

0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:24.960
<v Speaker 1>cap and everything. And even in this goobery outfit, he looks,

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:27.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean like he often does, like he just came

0:44:27.760 --> 0:44:30.240
<v Speaker 1>back in a hurry from doing a series of things

0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 1>that are all illegal. Um, you know, he looks like, oh,

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 1>he just ran a bunch of errands, including purchasing illegal

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:41.439
<v Speaker 1>whale gonads on the black market, and like getting into

0:44:41.480 --> 0:44:43.640
<v Speaker 1>a fight, like you know, somebody looked at him wrong

0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 1>and he kicked them in the neck. And now he's

0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 1>back here to drive this kid home, do you know

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:51.279
<v Speaker 1>what I mean? Like he's got this. Even apart from

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:54.000
<v Speaker 1>whatever he's acting out in the scene, he just almost

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:57.560
<v Speaker 1>always looks kind of sweaty and like he has just

0:44:57.840 --> 0:45:01.440
<v Speaker 1>been caught or almost been haught to doing something he

0:45:01.480 --> 0:45:04.880
<v Speaker 1>wasn't supposed to. Yeah, and constantly like if he were

0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:07.319
<v Speaker 1>a Dungeons and Dragon's character, it would be constantly doing

0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 1>intimidation checks on everybody around him. He is constantly busting

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:16.800
<v Speaker 1>out that that cold intimidating stare, and like I said earlier,

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:18.960
<v Speaker 1>there's really no suspense about what's going to go on

0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:21.920
<v Speaker 1>with this character, because as soon as the mother and

0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 1>son get into the car, we just see Oliver Read

0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 1>looking at them in the rear view mirror with absolute

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 1>murder eyes. I mean, he looks like he should be

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:34.000
<v Speaker 1>weeping blood. But then so after that we just cut

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:36.400
<v Speaker 1>to a driving scene. Gotta love a driving scene at

0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:38.719
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of a movie. So we're just watching the

0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:42.319
<v Speaker 1>car navigate the streets of London. The title comes up

0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:44.840
<v Speaker 1>and the music gets all hopeful and Peppie, do you

0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:47.960
<v Speaker 1>remember this? I thought this was a weird choice because

0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:49.920
<v Speaker 1>the opening music makes it sound like it's going to

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:53.759
<v Speaker 1>be a movie about a jaunty sea voyage and teamwork

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:57.440
<v Speaker 1>and friendship. Yeah, it has. It has strange energy. This

0:45:57.520 --> 0:45:59.640
<v Speaker 1>was I think the point to where I really didn't

0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:01.000
<v Speaker 1>know what the score was going to be, and I

0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 1>was still maybe holding out hope that it would be, um,

0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:05.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, electronic or something, and I was like, oh, no,

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:08.239
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not gonna be it's gonna be very traditional.

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:11.240
<v Speaker 1>But whatever they're going for, it has a funny effect.

0:46:11.320 --> 0:46:13.520
<v Speaker 1>So we get this driving scene at the beginning, Philip

0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 1>and his mom getting driven around London by all of

0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:19.520
<v Speaker 1>a read he's just like drilling holes into them through

0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:22.279
<v Speaker 1>the rear view mirror. And then the music is just

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:25.680
<v Speaker 1>rousing strings and brass. It's trying to warm your blood.

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:29.839
<v Speaker 1>And then they get home and they meet Louise, the housekeeper,

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 1>and and she's like, ah, young Master Philip, two whole

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:35.800
<v Speaker 1>days off school A. And of course this is Louise

0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:38.719
<v Speaker 1>is played by Susan George. And so we we learned

0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:41.200
<v Speaker 1>a bit about the situation that these are Americans living

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:44.799
<v Speaker 1>in London, that the boy's father has been gone for

0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 1>a while, and that he is there with his mother, Ruth,

0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:51.840
<v Speaker 1>and his grandfather. And so we learned that Ruth, the

0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:54.800
<v Speaker 1>mother has to leave town soon. But Young Master Philip

0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:57.920
<v Speaker 1>wants to go see his zoo. That's what he calls it.

0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:01.160
<v Speaker 1>He's like my zoo. And so what does this mean. Well,

0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:04.000
<v Speaker 1>he gets up to his room and oh my god,

0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:08.400
<v Speaker 1>his bedroom is straight out of Dante's Inferno. It's is

0:47:08.480 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 1>like a dungeon for small animals. It is just crates

0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:16.120
<v Speaker 1>and cages stacked up to the ceiling with rabbits and

0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:19.560
<v Speaker 1>hamsters and and god knows what else. Yeah, I mean

0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:22.920
<v Speaker 1>he's definitely they're definitely overdoing it here in my opinion.

0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:27.239
<v Speaker 1>But on the other hand, uh, my son has a

0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:29.800
<v Speaker 1>leopard gecko, and I know that like just having a

0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 1>leopard gecko that means, oh, well, you don't just have

0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:35.480
<v Speaker 1>a pet leopard gecko. You also have pet crickets. And

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:38.320
<v Speaker 1>some people actually go to the level of like raising

0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:40.680
<v Speaker 1>their own crickets. So maybe that's part of what we're

0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:42.120
<v Speaker 1>seeing here. It's like, well, he's got a bunch of

0:47:42.120 --> 0:47:44.880
<v Speaker 1>snakes and so forth, Well that means he's also raising mice.

0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh I didn't think about that. But so you think

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:52.640
<v Speaker 1>the mice in his room are there to feed his snakes? Uh?

0:47:52.719 --> 0:47:54.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Maybe, but then again, yeah, he has

0:47:54.360 --> 0:47:56.960
<v Speaker 1>things like rabbits in there, so um, I guess it

0:47:57.040 --> 0:48:00.840
<v Speaker 1>is just an extended uh you know, zool logical collection

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:04.839
<v Speaker 1>here and not just about feeding the animals. I keep

0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:08.440
<v Speaker 1>these rabbits to feed to my pet hyena. Well, anyway,

0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:11.359
<v Speaker 1>we meet Sterling Hayden, we find out he is Ruth's dad,

0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:13.680
<v Speaker 1>and he's staying with him. I think because of some

0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:17.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of injury. Am I am I right about that? Um?

0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:20.560
<v Speaker 1>I was a little foggy on this. Um. I mean

0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:22.960
<v Speaker 1>we we've we've learned that he's let some sort of

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:27.720
<v Speaker 1>like great explorer safari type guy. Yeah, and a photographer.

0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, I guess. So you know, he's kind of

0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:34.080
<v Speaker 1>you know the uh, you know safari guy in the

0:48:34.080 --> 0:48:37.320
<v Speaker 1>classic sense where he's he's studying uh you know the

0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 1>world and probably writing about it and taking photos. But

0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:44.200
<v Speaker 1>there's a sense that like his adventuring days or perhaps

0:48:44.239 --> 0:48:47.239
<v Speaker 1>over right, yeah, sort of. I mean I think they're

0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:51.399
<v Speaker 1>trying to give him earnest hemingway energy. Okay, he has

0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:55.520
<v Speaker 1>enormous shotguns on the wall, yes, yes, uh yeah, with

0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:58.960
<v Speaker 1>like shells the size of soda cans, and so I

0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:01.759
<v Speaker 1>think these are meant for l offense or something. Um.

0:49:01.800 --> 0:49:04.520
<v Speaker 1>But so after we meet these characters, oh and and

0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:08.279
<v Speaker 1>of course, uh, Grandpa and and Ruth talk about how

0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:10.640
<v Speaker 1>she's got to leave town soon, and she's worried about

0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 1>leaving leaving the young boy there with him because she's like, oh,

0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:17.960
<v Speaker 1>he's got asthma. Um, but I don't know, it seems

0:49:17.960 --> 0:49:20.480
<v Speaker 1>like it's gonna be fine. So so she's like, Okay,

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I gotta head out, um. And then things immediately start

0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:28.040
<v Speaker 1>getting juicy because we start seeing the conspiracy. Oliver Read

0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:31.560
<v Speaker 1>and Susan George, you know, the housekeeper Louise, when they're

0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:37.680
<v Speaker 1>talking in private, Um, she is washing Ruth's jewelry. That's interesting,

0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:39.880
<v Speaker 1>washing the jewelry. I don't know if that's supposed to

0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:43.640
<v Speaker 1>say something about about Ruth being really really fussy about

0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:47.560
<v Speaker 1>fancy things or something. Um, but that's what she's doing.

0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:50.680
<v Speaker 1>And then, uh, they're talking about something coming up. They're

0:49:50.800 --> 0:49:53.880
<v Speaker 1>they're plotting in secret about something, and Oliver Read appears

0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:56.759
<v Speaker 1>to be having misgivings. He's like, look, this isn't just

0:49:56.840 --> 0:49:59.480
<v Speaker 1>stealing cars. If something goes wrong, they're going to lock

0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:02.480
<v Speaker 1>us up in throw away the key and uh, and

0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:07.360
<v Speaker 1>he's wondering, will Jack Mell come through, and Louise assures

0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:10.200
<v Speaker 1>him yes, Jack Mell will come through. Now, there was

0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:12.200
<v Speaker 1>a thing I noted. I don't know if you noticed this,

0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:15.760
<v Speaker 1>but as Ruth is leaving the house, she's giving instructions

0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:19.160
<v Speaker 1>to Louise and she's saying, Okay, while I'm out of town,

0:50:19.160 --> 0:50:22.320
<v Speaker 1>the house must be kept at no less than seventy

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:25.520
<v Speaker 1>five degrees. So he always turned up to seventy five

0:50:25.600 --> 0:50:30.400
<v Speaker 1>or higher. Um, which I don't know. Maybe my senses

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:32.760
<v Speaker 1>are off, but obviously they'd be normal in the summer.

0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:35.000
<v Speaker 1>But like turning the heat in the winter up to

0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:38.319
<v Speaker 1>seventy five, that sounds insanely high. Yeah, I mean I

0:50:38.320 --> 0:50:40.759
<v Speaker 1>feel a little guilty if I said, I said it

0:50:40.800 --> 0:50:43.600
<v Speaker 1>for seventy you know. Uh, And I feel really guilty

0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:45.759
<v Speaker 1>if I'm like, that's it, I'm going up to seventy one.

0:50:46.760 --> 0:50:48.560
<v Speaker 1>But even that'll be like but just for a few minutes,

0:50:48.560 --> 0:50:50.920
<v Speaker 1>just so I so I start feeling my you know,

0:50:50.960 --> 0:50:54.440
<v Speaker 1>my toes again that sort of thing. Seventy five seems

0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:55.759
<v Speaker 1>like it would be just like it would be like

0:50:55.760 --> 0:50:59.120
<v Speaker 1>a jungle in there. Yeah. Yeah, because yeah, like heat

0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:01.520
<v Speaker 1>or heat feels very very different than natural heat. Like

0:51:01.560 --> 0:51:04.520
<v Speaker 1>if it's seventy five degrees outside, that's nice weather, but

0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:07.480
<v Speaker 1>if it's seventy five degrees from a heater or that's like,

0:51:07.600 --> 0:51:09.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're going under the gates abandoned. I'll hope

0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:12.160
<v Speaker 1>you who enter here. Well, I think we see don't

0:51:12.360 --> 0:51:14.440
<v Speaker 1>now that I think about it. It looks like it's gas, right,

0:51:14.440 --> 0:51:17.359
<v Speaker 1>so they're probably just completely dried out in there, which

0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess is why we also see the reliance on

0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:22.200
<v Speaker 1>the humidifiers. Oh that's right, yes, so they keep it

0:51:22.239 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 1>at seventy five. But also the kid sleeps with the humidifier.

0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:27.480
<v Speaker 1>The humidifier, I think the idea is he's got asthma

0:51:27.560 --> 0:51:30.920
<v Speaker 1>and the humidifier maybe delivering some kind of medication in

0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:34.759
<v Speaker 1>the steam. Yeah, because there is that, I would say,

0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:39.000
<v Speaker 1>effectively creepy scene where we see that Jock Mel jumping

0:51:39.000 --> 0:51:41.840
<v Speaker 1>ahead a little bit here, but where Jock Mel checks

0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:43.840
<v Speaker 1>on the house that they have set up the place

0:51:43.880 --> 0:51:46.120
<v Speaker 1>they want to take the boy after they kidnap him,

0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:48.840
<v Speaker 1>and they have the same machinery. They're like, they're intended

0:51:49.080 --> 0:51:52.240
<v Speaker 1>to have like a long stay at the kidnapping house,

0:51:52.280 --> 0:51:55.279
<v Speaker 1>which which was creepy, right, But of course they never

0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:58.120
<v Speaker 1>get to that house because the criminals in this movie

0:51:58.120 --> 0:52:01.919
<v Speaker 1>are bad at crime. Uh So, Oliver Read takes Ruth

0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:05.319
<v Speaker 1>to the airport so the mother leaves town, and then

0:52:05.440 --> 0:52:08.400
<v Speaker 1>at about eleven minutes into the movie, the two devils collide.

0:52:08.480 --> 0:52:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Oliver Read meets Jack Mel, who is klaus Kinski. They

0:52:12.280 --> 0:52:14.839
<v Speaker 1>meet at the airport. They come face to face. It's

0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:17.040
<v Speaker 1>clear from the very first moment that they do not

0:52:17.160 --> 0:52:20.040
<v Speaker 1>like each other, but they're they're locked into this conspiracy

0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:23.600
<v Speaker 1>together now, yes, And Louise is the sensual glue holding

0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:26.839
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing together. Um, And of course that's gonna

0:52:26.840 --> 0:52:30.520
<v Speaker 1>be one of the great complicating um situations in the plot,

0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:33.040
<v Speaker 1>is that she is the one who dies first, right,

0:52:33.080 --> 0:52:35.040
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's implied that she's been having love

0:52:35.040 --> 0:52:38.120
<v Speaker 1>affairs with both of them, right. Oh. And as soon

0:52:38.160 --> 0:52:39.560
<v Speaker 1>as they get in the so they go off to

0:52:39.600 --> 0:52:42.279
<v Speaker 1>the car and and of course Oliver Reid has a

0:52:42.320 --> 0:52:45.120
<v Speaker 1>gun for Jack mel and he drops him off at

0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:47.520
<v Speaker 1>a house in the country that they've rented ahead of time,

0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and this is where they're gonna stash the kid while

0:52:50.040 --> 0:52:52.319
<v Speaker 1>they're holding him for ransom. So we get to see

0:52:52.400 --> 0:52:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Jack Mell going around the house, pulling the curtains aside,

0:52:55.880 --> 0:52:59.640
<v Speaker 1>inspecting the rooms and uh and when oh, and then

0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Louis he shows up at the house and the two

0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:05.160
<v Speaker 1>of them are conspiring. So klaus Kinski and Susan George are,

0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:07.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, checking in on how the plot is coming along,

0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:11.040
<v Speaker 1>and and Jack Mell says he doesn't trust the chauffeur.

0:53:11.200 --> 0:53:15.040
<v Speaker 1>He says his hands sweat, which I love. It's like, oh,

0:53:15.160 --> 0:53:19.800
<v Speaker 1>he's not cool like you. Yeah, yeah, you get the

0:53:20.160 --> 0:53:23.239
<v Speaker 1>sense that Kinski's character jack Nell, does not sweat at all.

0:53:23.640 --> 0:53:27.200
<v Speaker 1>But so jack Mell lures Sterling Hayden out of the house.

0:53:27.680 --> 0:53:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that they're trying to get there, trying to

0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:32.480
<v Speaker 1>find a way to get him away so that they

0:53:32.480 --> 0:53:35.799
<v Speaker 1>can take the kid. And so they lure him away

0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:39.520
<v Speaker 1>by pretending to be a filmmaker who wants Grandpa's help

0:53:39.640 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 1>on on a film shoot in Central Africa, and he

0:53:42.280 --> 0:53:44.319
<v Speaker 1>tells him to come meet for a cocktail at the

0:53:44.360 --> 0:53:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Tower Hotel. But of course Grandpa goes to meet with

0:53:48.440 --> 0:53:50.920
<v Speaker 1>the filmmaker who will in fact never show up because

0:53:50.920 --> 0:53:53.600
<v Speaker 1>it's Klaus Kinsky just pretending to be somebody else, is

0:53:53.640 --> 0:53:56.360
<v Speaker 1>just a ruse to get him out of the house. Meanwhile,

0:53:56.600 --> 0:54:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Philip is often a taxi to the pet show up,

0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:03.840
<v Speaker 1>and here is the scene where things finally really kick off,

0:54:03.880 --> 0:54:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I think because he acquires his snake. Yeah, supposed to

0:54:07.120 --> 0:54:10.080
<v Speaker 1>get just a normal non venomous pet snat snake. I

0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:13.080
<v Speaker 1>forget what variety was supposed to be, but there's a

0:54:13.160 --> 0:54:15.560
<v Speaker 1>mix up. The black mamba that is supposed to go

0:54:15.640 --> 0:54:19.239
<v Speaker 1>to what the London Zoological Society or something. Um, it's

0:54:19.239 --> 0:54:22.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna end up being studied or something. Yeah, it instead

0:54:22.920 --> 0:54:25.480
<v Speaker 1>goes to this boy. It's put in a box for

0:54:25.560 --> 0:54:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Philip and he has taken it home on a taxi. Right,

0:54:28.760 --> 0:54:31.839
<v Speaker 1>So and then we we the plot is exposed when

0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:35.040
<v Speaker 1>we cut to it's the London Institute of Toxicology and

0:54:35.080 --> 0:54:39.640
<v Speaker 1>that's where where Sarah Miles works. So they're checking on

0:54:39.719 --> 0:54:42.640
<v Speaker 1>their She and a couple of researchers there are checking

0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:45.360
<v Speaker 1>out their new live specimen of of the black mamba.

0:54:45.440 --> 0:54:49.520
<v Speaker 1>This this would be Dendaro Aspis poly lepis and they're like,

0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:52.320
<v Speaker 1>this isn't the right snake at all, so something's wrong

0:54:52.400 --> 0:54:56.440
<v Speaker 1>here and uh. And on closer inspection they discover it

0:54:56.480 --> 0:54:59.200
<v Speaker 1>as a harmless species of snake commonly sold as a

0:54:59.239 --> 0:55:01.799
<v Speaker 1>pet and there must have been some kind of mix up.

0:55:01.840 --> 0:55:04.080
<v Speaker 1>So they quickly trace this back to I don't know

0:55:04.120 --> 0:55:07.160
<v Speaker 1>why they were getting a black mamba from a London

0:55:07.280 --> 0:55:12.040
<v Speaker 1>pet shop, but they were, and so they trace it

0:55:12.040 --> 0:55:14.120
<v Speaker 1>back to the pet shop and they realized there must

0:55:14.200 --> 0:55:17.080
<v Speaker 1>have been a mix up there and she immediately calls

0:55:17.160 --> 0:55:20.799
<v Speaker 1>the police and she's like, hello, I'm calling from you know,

0:55:20.840 --> 0:55:24.960
<v Speaker 1>the Toxicology Institute, and the policeman is like toxicology. That's poisons,

0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:28.439
<v Speaker 1>isn't it. And she explains that there's been this mix

0:55:28.560 --> 0:55:30.719
<v Speaker 1>up and some kid must have just walked out of

0:55:30.719 --> 0:55:33.319
<v Speaker 1>the shop with a black mamba. And they really play

0:55:33.400 --> 0:55:35.279
<v Speaker 1>up the danger of the snake. It is the most

0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:37.520
<v Speaker 1>deadly thing on the planet. It might as well be

0:55:37.560 --> 0:55:40.279
<v Speaker 1>a nuclear bomb. Yeah, I mean there are moments later

0:55:40.280 --> 0:55:42.600
<v Speaker 1>in the film where it's like, there's a black mamba upstairs.

0:55:42.960 --> 0:55:46.640
<v Speaker 1>You should absolutely not go upstairs. Like going upstairs, there's

0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:48.520
<v Speaker 1>just a no go. You will die if you go

0:55:48.600 --> 0:55:52.000
<v Speaker 1>up there. Now. Meanwhile, the crime plot is already getting

0:55:52.040 --> 0:55:54.520
<v Speaker 1>screwed up. As we said, this is a movie about

0:55:54.520 --> 0:55:58.080
<v Speaker 1>criminals who are quite bad at crime. So Philip was

0:55:58.120 --> 0:56:00.600
<v Speaker 1>supposed to stay home so louis Is could put him

0:56:00.600 --> 0:56:02.600
<v Speaker 1>in a car with Jack Mel who would kidnap him

0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:05.120
<v Speaker 1>for ransom. But he didn't stay home. He went to

0:56:05.160 --> 0:56:08.520
<v Speaker 1>the store to get his snake. So eventually he comes

0:56:08.560 --> 0:56:12.760
<v Speaker 1>back with his snake and she is frantic and she's like, hello,

0:56:12.960 --> 0:56:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I need you to get directly into a car with

0:56:15.160 --> 0:56:17.680
<v Speaker 1>this man who you've never met before and is klaus

0:56:17.760 --> 0:56:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Kinski and the and the kid is like, uh no,

0:56:22.120 --> 0:56:23.879
<v Speaker 1>I will not be doing that. I have to put

0:56:23.880 --> 0:56:27.360
<v Speaker 1>my snake into its vivarium. So he runs inside to

0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:30.520
<v Speaker 1>do that, and then Oliver Read is there, and Oliver

0:56:30.560 --> 0:56:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Read is just angry. He's angry at this child for

0:56:33.239 --> 0:56:36.200
<v Speaker 1>failing to be kidnapped. Uh. And then he's just like

0:56:36.239 --> 0:56:39.480
<v Speaker 1>insulting the child, which which was weird. He's like, he's

0:56:39.520 --> 0:56:41.359
<v Speaker 1>like he's such a brat or something, you know. It's

0:56:41.440 --> 0:56:46.319
<v Speaker 1>like the total outburst. Yeah, and then Louise chases Young

0:56:46.360 --> 0:56:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Master Philip up to his room where they opened the

0:56:49.600 --> 0:56:52.480
<v Speaker 1>snake box and she is just immediately bitten in the

0:56:52.520 --> 0:56:55.920
<v Speaker 1>face a bunch of times by the black mamba. Frightening

0:56:56.000 --> 0:56:59.000
<v Speaker 1>scene to yeah, yeah, and then the snake slithers away

0:56:59.000 --> 0:57:03.680
<v Speaker 1>into the shadows. Meanwhile, Sterling Hayden arrives back home so

0:57:03.800 --> 0:57:05.920
<v Speaker 1>the route. I guess he's given up on waiting for

0:57:05.960 --> 0:57:09.480
<v Speaker 1>the German filmmaker at the at the cocktail lounge. He

0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:12.440
<v Speaker 1>wasn't supposed to be there, but he arrives and Philip

0:57:12.520 --> 0:57:15.680
<v Speaker 1>still there. Louise, who has been bitten on the face

0:57:15.719 --> 0:57:17.240
<v Speaker 1>by the snake a bunch of times, is like, I

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:20.320
<v Speaker 1>am dying and everybody's like, ah, you'll be fine. It's

0:57:20.360 --> 0:57:23.680
<v Speaker 1>just a harmless house snake, and then Oliver Reed just

0:57:23.720 --> 0:57:27.560
<v Speaker 1>starts punching Grandpa and Jack Mell points a gun at

0:57:27.640 --> 0:57:29.840
<v Speaker 1>him and is like, you know, I'm in charge. It

0:57:29.920 --> 0:57:32.120
<v Speaker 1>is not time to punch Grandpa until I say it's

0:57:32.160 --> 0:57:36.280
<v Speaker 1>time to punch grandpa. So they lock Sterling Hayden in

0:57:36.320 --> 0:57:38.880
<v Speaker 1>the cellar, and then we see Oliver Read loading a

0:57:38.960 --> 0:57:41.040
<v Speaker 1>gun and this is the one you were talking about earlier,

0:57:41.040 --> 0:57:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Like it must be an elephant gun or something because

0:57:43.120 --> 0:57:46.840
<v Speaker 1>the shells are enormous. And then the badness at crime

0:57:46.920 --> 0:57:50.760
<v Speaker 1>just continues, like a policeman arrives and knocks at the door,

0:57:50.800 --> 0:57:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I guess because the toxicology lab uh figured out that

0:57:55.000 --> 0:57:57.280
<v Speaker 1>this is the address of the boy who accidentally took

0:57:57.320 --> 0:58:02.600
<v Speaker 1>home the super snake, and the policeman Knox Philip, shouts

0:58:02.640 --> 0:58:05.760
<v Speaker 1>for help from inside the house, and then the officer

0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:09.720
<v Speaker 1>opens the front door to just see this tableau of

0:58:09.720 --> 0:58:13.640
<v Speaker 1>of Oliver Reed holding a shotgun, klaus Kinski clutching a

0:58:13.720 --> 0:58:17.600
<v Speaker 1>terrified child, Susan George with her face turning purple and

0:58:17.640 --> 0:58:21.200
<v Speaker 1>she's gasping for air. And then Oliver Reed just shoots

0:58:21.240 --> 0:58:24.600
<v Speaker 1>the police officer and the kid in and so like

0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:27.720
<v Speaker 1>everything is screwed up. Now, so now they are in

0:58:27.800 --> 0:58:31.440
<v Speaker 1>the house, having shot a police officer outside, and they

0:58:31.480 --> 0:58:33.919
<v Speaker 1>are not going to escape to their hiding place with

0:58:33.920 --> 0:58:36.160
<v Speaker 1>with the kid for ransom. Now they're just in the

0:58:36.200 --> 0:58:47.600
<v Speaker 1>house with the cops outside, and it's a siege. Yeah.

0:58:47.640 --> 0:58:50.640
<v Speaker 1>So at this point we're very much and like they say,

0:58:50.680 --> 0:58:53.600
<v Speaker 1>the best laid plans of mice and men, uh, and

0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:56.160
<v Speaker 1>so you know, and go stray. This was not a

0:58:56.240 --> 0:59:00.120
<v Speaker 1>very well laid plan and it has definitely gone astray. Uh.

0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:02.040
<v Speaker 1>But but this is a common feature in a lot

0:59:02.080 --> 0:59:05.080
<v Speaker 1>of crime shows and crime stories. You know. It's like

0:59:05.120 --> 0:59:07.680
<v Speaker 1>the the heighst doesn't go as as it's supposed to,

0:59:07.760 --> 0:59:09.520
<v Speaker 1>and now we have to deal with the consequences of that,

0:59:09.800 --> 0:59:12.200
<v Speaker 1>and then here come the police. That's gonna be our

0:59:12.240 --> 0:59:15.080
<v Speaker 1>next big movement in the plot. And I will say

0:59:15.120 --> 0:59:17.560
<v Speaker 1>that one of the things I liked about the film

0:59:17.600 --> 0:59:19.480
<v Speaker 1>that I thought made it very watchable is that it

0:59:19.480 --> 0:59:23.160
<v Speaker 1>has very strong procedural bones. You know, Um, you're laying

0:59:23.200 --> 0:59:26.080
<v Speaker 1>out like what the the the the the you know,

0:59:26.120 --> 0:59:29.880
<v Speaker 1>poorly thought out criminal enterprise, uh, seems to be like

0:59:29.920 --> 0:59:32.440
<v Speaker 1>what their plan is. And then there's a lot in

0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:36.280
<v Speaker 1>the film about the police officers responding and getting advice

0:59:36.360 --> 0:59:38.520
<v Speaker 1>and trying to figure out like what is the proper

0:59:38.560 --> 0:59:43.320
<v Speaker 1>strategic move to make? And it really helps to you know,

0:59:43.440 --> 0:59:46.120
<v Speaker 1>drive the film along, you know, in a way that

0:59:46.160 --> 0:59:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I thought was ultimately entertaining. Like I was reading Ebert's

0:59:49.480 --> 0:59:52.760
<v Speaker 1>review of the film, and Ebert was like, despite all

0:59:52.800 --> 0:59:55.000
<v Speaker 1>these actors, this film is boring. And I disagree. I

0:59:55.240 --> 0:59:58.680
<v Speaker 1>don't think this film is ever boring. It falls short

0:59:58.720 --> 1:00:02.120
<v Speaker 1>in some notable areas, but um, but it's never boring. Oh,

1:00:02.160 --> 1:00:05.439
<v Speaker 1>i'd agree, And yeah, you're right about the procedural step. Wait,

1:00:05.720 --> 1:00:07.800
<v Speaker 1>you made this comparison off Mike. Did you say it

1:00:07.840 --> 1:00:09.880
<v Speaker 1>on Mike that it's kind of like Shin Godzilla in

1:00:09.920 --> 1:00:12.920
<v Speaker 1>that regard. Yeah, yeah, it's it's kind of like the

1:00:12.960 --> 1:00:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Shin Godzilla of Loose Snake movies. Uh, in that you know,

1:00:17.040 --> 1:00:18.760
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of well, let's talk to the expert

1:00:18.800 --> 1:00:20.800
<v Speaker 1>and see what they think we should do. Okay, let's

1:00:20.800 --> 1:00:23.760
<v Speaker 1>talk to another expert. What did they think? And uh

1:00:23.760 --> 1:00:26.640
<v Speaker 1>and so forth. Shin Godzilla is the best movie ever

1:00:26.680 --> 1:00:30.800
<v Speaker 1>made about meetings, and uh, this is this is a

1:00:30.880 --> 1:00:33.880
<v Speaker 1>very good movie about Yeah, a little little strategy sessions

1:00:33.920 --> 1:00:38.280
<v Speaker 1>where people are talking out their next plans. Oh oh,

1:00:38.400 --> 1:00:40.680
<v Speaker 1>I should have mentioned after all that last stuff happens

1:00:40.720 --> 1:00:43.040
<v Speaker 1>like around the you know, the one third of the

1:00:43.080 --> 1:00:46.400
<v Speaker 1>way into the movie, Louise dies, so you know, they

1:00:46.400 --> 1:00:48.600
<v Speaker 1>thought she'd just been bitten by this harmless house snake,

1:00:48.640 --> 1:00:51.360
<v Speaker 1>but then she turns completely blue. There's blood coming out

1:00:51.360 --> 1:00:54.080
<v Speaker 1>of her mouth and she's dead. And the other crime

1:00:54.120 --> 1:00:57.280
<v Speaker 1>boys are like, oh, whoops, maybe there is something bad

1:00:57.320 --> 1:01:01.520
<v Speaker 1>about the snake and uh. And so then the police

1:01:01.600 --> 1:01:04.400
<v Speaker 1>arrive and this is when we really meet Nicole Williamson.

1:01:04.560 --> 1:01:06.960
<v Speaker 1>He arrives, he sets up outside, he's trying to do

1:01:07.040 --> 1:01:11.600
<v Speaker 1>negotiations with Jack mell uh. These negotiations will continue for

1:01:11.840 --> 1:01:15.280
<v Speaker 1>throughout the middle third of the movie. Of course, of course,

1:01:15.320 --> 1:01:18.080
<v Speaker 1>klaus Kinsky he wants a car and money in exchange

1:01:18.120 --> 1:01:20.120
<v Speaker 1>for the kids safety, and they're not going to get

1:01:20.160 --> 1:01:22.120
<v Speaker 1>that yet. So the Act two set up is complete,

1:01:22.120 --> 1:01:24.440
<v Speaker 1>and from here it goes on to a lot of

1:01:24.560 --> 1:01:26.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, the standard fun and game as part of

1:01:26.480 --> 1:01:29.040
<v Speaker 1>a creature movie, where there's a lot of mamba cam

1:01:29.200 --> 1:01:31.560
<v Speaker 1>and like hunting around for the snake. There. They send

1:01:31.640 --> 1:01:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Grandpa up to to hunt for the snake and he's

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<v Speaker 1>holding like a lamp with the shade taken off, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's some some some false positives in his search for

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<v Speaker 1>the snake that worked pretty well on the screen. But

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<v Speaker 1>he knows what it is because he's, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>from all his safari experiences, he's familiar with black mambas

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<v Speaker 1>and and the fact that they can be dangerous. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, Okay, well, you know, we're we're really in

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<v Speaker 1>trouble with this thing in the house. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one scene I thought was pretty good was the one

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<v Speaker 1>with Sterling Hayden hunting around for the snake in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the empty room. I wonder if this is perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>something that maybe worked better in the book, Like if

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<v Speaker 1>the book allowed the author more room to sort of

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<v Speaker 1>ruminate over like tales of the mamba from from Africa

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<v Speaker 1>that Grandpa would be familiar with, and maybe Grandpa thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about like just how intensely dangerous the situation is. Like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it was able to drive home this idea of

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<v Speaker 1>the momba being such a threat in ways that the

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<v Speaker 1>film may be struggled to do at times. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean a lot of what we know about the mamba

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<v Speaker 1>in the movie gets filled in by the scientists, so

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<v Speaker 1>like it around like you know, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the sort of cat and mouse games in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>third of the movie, and somewhere like an hour in

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<v Speaker 1>there's this meeting between Nicol Williamson and uh and Marian Stow,

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<v Speaker 1>the snake scientist, and this is where they talk about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, He's like, how dangerous is it because she's

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<v Speaker 1>finally gotten the information to him that there's a killer

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<v Speaker 1>snake inside and uh and she says it's most dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>snake in the whole world. Uh and she but she

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<v Speaker 1>gives it all these sort of anthropomorphic qualities. She says,

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<v Speaker 1>like they're they're very aggressive, but they tend to be

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<v Speaker 1>a little awkward, paranoid really um. And she says they

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<v Speaker 1>happen to be the fastest snake in the world. And

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<v Speaker 1>she says unless the bite victim gets antidote immediately or

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<v Speaker 1>anti venom immediately, mamba bites are one fatal. But she says,

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<v Speaker 1>if you get the antidote to the venom, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>fifty fifty chance, provided that the victim is not allergic

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<v Speaker 1>to it. I'll go ahead and mention again that California

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<v Speaker 1>Herb's website reminds us that there are some some some

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<v Speaker 1>suspect mamba facts in this movie, So don't watch Venom. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>just for your education on black mambas, go to other sources. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But also, I mean, it is certainly true that the

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<v Speaker 1>black mamba is one of the more dangerous snakes on

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<v Speaker 1>Earth in terms of interactions with humans. Like, if you

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<v Speaker 1>see one, don't go anywhere near it. You know, that thing,

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<v Speaker 1>It probably doesn't want anything to do with you, but

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<v Speaker 1>you do not want to be bitten by it? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>But can it smell crime? Does it own the night? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean these are these are questionable. Yeah. Now there's

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<v Speaker 1>a there's a fun scene where they send out Sarah

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<v Speaker 1>Miles to deliver a snake science lecture to the people

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<v Speaker 1>in the house. So, you know, the house is besieged

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<v Speaker 1>by cops and she just goes out in front of

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<v Speaker 1>it to like tell them about the mamba and it's venom.

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<v Speaker 1>So they do keep saying poisonous snake. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the pedantic part of my brain couldn't let that go. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And through some devious trickery, klaus Kinski eventually manages to

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<v Speaker 1>get the snakes scientist or the the toxicologist Dr Stowe

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<v Speaker 1>into the into the house by pulling a gun on her.

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<v Speaker 1>Um Uh. He tricks her into thinking that she can

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<v Speaker 1>administer an antidote to someone who has been bitten. But

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<v Speaker 1>really it's just him pointing a gun in her face.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's a hostage and now as well. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>I love how basically Jack Mell is approaching this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, what got us into this problem kidnapping? Love,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get us out of this situation more kidnapping, right exactly. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And so there's a bunch of stuff with the police

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<v Speaker 1>scheming about maybe back entrances to the house. This I

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<v Speaker 1>think is part of the shin Godzilla quality. You were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about little strategy sessions where they're like consulting the

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<v Speaker 1>building plans of the house. They're like, there used to

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<v Speaker 1>be a back entrance, we can maybe bust through there. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And then meanwhile inside the house, there's a great scene

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<v Speaker 1>where everybody's just sitting around. It's it's Oliver Read and

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah Miles and Oliver Reid's like, I'm thirsty. I fancy

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<v Speaker 1>a drink? How about you? Yeah? And uh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>I love this moment because um Read's character Dave, he

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<v Speaker 1>kind of enters into this comfort zone offering the drink,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's listing all the different liquors that are available,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, we've got most things. Um, and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It puts you completely at ease because then when he

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<v Speaker 1>opens up the drink cabinet and you find yourself just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like, well, I want to see these bottles. Umm,

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<v Speaker 1>I am curious. Maybe I'll have a drink too. Oliver

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna make a white Russian. Yeah, But then he

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<v Speaker 1>opens it up and what is in the liquor cabinet

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<v Speaker 1>but the mamba there you go. It's it's a snake

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<v Speaker 1>pop out scare. It's a great snake pop out scare.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say, I really enjoyed it. And the special

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<v Speaker 1>horror of like Oliver Reed realizes that the snake is

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<v Speaker 1>in there with the alcohol. Yeah, and at first I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was gonna be the thing. It's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>a Simpsons moment, like, oh no, the beer is locked

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<v Speaker 1>up with the snake. No one can get the beer now, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing. But then yeah, there's this scene

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<v Speaker 1>where they then pull the liquor cabinet away from the

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<v Speaker 1>wall and we see the snake slither through like a

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<v Speaker 1>crack in the back of the liquor cabinet into the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a duck. Did you understand this? There is a duct.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know. Well, I mean I think I

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<v Speaker 1>understood what I was looking at. But it's so it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like built into the wall. It's a liquor cabinet

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<v Speaker 1>that is a separate piece of furniture. It's like a

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<v Speaker 1>chest or a wardrobe kind of thing, almost as a

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<v Speaker 1>cabinet opens up. It's got all the liquor inside. But

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<v Speaker 1>there is a hole in the back of it where

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<v Speaker 1>there's a duct leading into the wall, like connecting it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know what that was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be or if that's normal. I mean, do you

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<v Speaker 1>normally have a duct going from the wall to a

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<v Speaker 1>separate piece of furniture containing liquor bottles? I can't imagine

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<v Speaker 1>you would. But then again, it's necessary for this scare

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<v Speaker 1>to work because otherwise the snake is just stuck in

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<v Speaker 1>the liquor cabinet. Now and okay, he's in there, and

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<v Speaker 1>now now we've won. Now we can just nail the

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<v Speaker 1>liquor cabinet shut. But now it gets away. It's back

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<v Speaker 1>in the walls. It goes wherever it wants to in

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<v Speaker 1>this house. Now, so the police are scheming about ways

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<v Speaker 1>to breach the house to get in there and and

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<v Speaker 1>save the hostages. But I think the funny thing is

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<v Speaker 1>that ultimately the police fail in this regard, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is the snake in fact, that defeats the criminals. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the snake is ultimately the hero of the picture, dispensing

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<v Speaker 1>with all three kidnappers. Uh. And and never I mean threatening,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, but never actually harming any of the non

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<v Speaker 1>criminals in the picture. Yeah, it's a lawful good snake

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<v Speaker 1>can smell crime, I think. Yes. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>much detail we want to go into about the particular

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<v Speaker 1>demise of Oliver read or klaus Kinski's characters Oliver Reed. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He they're like down in the basement and suddenly the

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<v Speaker 1>police bust in through the wall and uh, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>having a standoff. They're shooting at each other, but then

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<v Speaker 1>there's a snake and the police are like snake and

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<v Speaker 1>they have to run away and go back out the broke,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the breach in the wall. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>you were more scared of the snake than the gun.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. It's like a xenomorph in this thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>but h Reid's character Dave is shot. He's like shot

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<v Speaker 1>in the shoulder, so he's he's heavily injured. He can't

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<v Speaker 1>quite crawl up the stairs. And that's when the mamba

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<v Speaker 1>comes for him. In a In a quite gratuitous scene

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<v Speaker 1>of like creature revenge against human evil, Oliver Reed is

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<v Speaker 1>bitten in the crotch by the snake and and goes

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<v Speaker 1>right up the pants leg. And now I'm just Jock

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<v Speaker 1>mel right, but I'm imagining, like the writing that scene,

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<v Speaker 1>it was you know, like what did that look like

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<v Speaker 1>on the page? The snake slither slowly up his thigh.

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<v Speaker 1>Oliver Read's great in this scene though he totally sells it.

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<v Speaker 1>But then of course the snake in the end also

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<v Speaker 1>has to attack the one remaining criminal, Jock mel Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>We see it like creeping up through curtains behind him

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<v Speaker 1>as the music builds, and then it's like it springs

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<v Speaker 1>out and attacks him and and literally like the final

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<v Speaker 1>conflict of the movie is is klaus Kinsky wrestling a

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<v Speaker 1>snake and engaging in a gunfight with a snake. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like thrashing around in the like the living upstairs, living

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<v Speaker 1>room or whatever it happens to be. Um. Yeah, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to shoot the snake's head off with his own gun. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually the fight goes out onto the balcony, and the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time like it's clearly a rubber snake. It's Kinsky

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<v Speaker 1>battling this rubber snake. And then especially when he fires

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<v Speaker 1>the gun, that's when the snipers start firing. The police

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<v Speaker 1>snipers start firing, So Kinsky's character and the snake die

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<v Speaker 1>in a hail of bullets and then fall off the balcony. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, my only criticism is that the body does

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<v Speaker 1>not become impaled on the like the spiked fence at

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom that I think would have been would have

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<v Speaker 1>made it a little more perfect. But maybe they thought

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<v Speaker 1>that would that would just be overdoing it. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it should have ended with the snake slithering

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<v Speaker 1>down klaus Kinski's throat and biting him from the inside,

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<v Speaker 1>like going right to the heart. Yeah. Yeah, coils around

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<v Speaker 1>his heart and bites at a hundred times. But basically

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<v Speaker 1>that's the big finish. Um. Yeah. That now all of

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<v Speaker 1>the kidnappers are dead, the Black Bomba itself is dead,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody is safe once again? Or are they? Oh

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, because we get a delightful stinger in which

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<v Speaker 1>you go into the heating ducks and you see some

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<v Speaker 1>some eggs, some snake eggs up in there. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>they're being incubated by the by the gas heat. Not

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<v Speaker 1>only that they've hatched, there's like a baby mamba crawling

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<v Speaker 1>out of one. So it's it's not only mamba time

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<v Speaker 1>once more in this uh in this house, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>also going to be like double mamba's. Uh so, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>set up for the sequel here, I guess is that

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<v Speaker 1>like it's Miller time, it's Mamba time. Yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they could have done a sequel. I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>were able to make all those um taken movies. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's I think you could come up with another scenario

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<v Speaker 1>in which you have kidnappers or terrorists or something to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of taking over the house, the exact same family,

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<v Speaker 1>the exact same house, and it's two snakes this time

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<v Speaker 1>two snakes. Yeah, okay, who would have to play the

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<v Speaker 1>criminals in the sequel? It would be how about how

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<v Speaker 1>about Gary Busey and Robert Mitchum who yeah, was well

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<v Speaker 1>was Robert Mitchum still alive at that point. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember when he died. Okay, yeah, he could have done it. Sure. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know if I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see like mid eighties Robert Mitchum wrestling a snake, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know I want to see that at any rate.

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<v Speaker 1>It never came to be. We never got a sequel

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<v Speaker 1>to Venom. Uh. But you know, like I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's a it is a movie that is

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<v Speaker 1>essentially ludicrous. Like the premise at the center of this

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<v Speaker 1>movie is he is just ridiculous. I mean, the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that this snake is just so dangerous and wants to

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<v Speaker 1>kill people, wants to kill criminals or you know, or

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<v Speaker 1>anybody that gets near it. Um, you know, it's just ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>I never I never really bought it in the film,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Uh, Like I'm quick to give something credit

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<v Speaker 1>if it works within the context of the film, and

1:12:39.200 --> 1:12:41.600
<v Speaker 1>this never quite did that. But we still have some

1:12:41.680 --> 1:12:45.880
<v Speaker 1>great snake scares. Uh, we have some fun performances, and

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<v Speaker 1>we have this procedural energy kind of driving things along.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, you're probably wondering, well, where can I

1:12:52.400 --> 1:12:55.800
<v Speaker 1>watch Venom? Well, Lucky for you. It's widely available for

1:12:55.840 --> 1:12:59.760
<v Speaker 1>digital rental or purchase, and also Blue Underground put out

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<v Speaker 1>a nice looking blu ray of it as well with

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<v Speaker 1>restored two K transfer um, so you can you can

1:13:05.760 --> 1:13:09.040
<v Speaker 1>watch this movie yourself via those means. Also, I'll stress

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<v Speaker 1>again the novel is out there in digital and physical form.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh. I would love to hear from anyone who's

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<v Speaker 1>read the novel Venom and can chime in on it.

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<v Speaker 1>And you might be wondering, well, I haven't read it,

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<v Speaker 1>but could I read it and then tell Robin Joe

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<v Speaker 1>what it's all about and give my review. Yes, you

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<v Speaker 1>can absolutely do that. I would love to have some

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<v Speaker 1>insight into the novel that came before here. Now wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>it be great if Venom was one of those films

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<v Speaker 1>that had a novel and then a movie and then

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<v Speaker 1>a novelization of the movie separate from the original novel.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you see that sometimes for me, the most

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<v Speaker 1>notable example being um Francis Ford Coppola's Brown Stoker's Dracula

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<v Speaker 1>and which, of course it is an adaptation of Dracula,

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<v Speaker 1>but there is also a novelization of the film Genius Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which I al was found outrageous because it's not like Dracula.

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<v Speaker 1>The original is an unreadable text, like did it really

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<v Speaker 1>need to be updated? Uh? You know, in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the written version, I don't know. Uh no, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>so it was so it could say, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Arker, who looked like the American actor Keanu Reeves

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<v Speaker 1>arrived in Where Does He Go? I don't you know, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't Dracula have a mustache in the original bron Stokers Dracula.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that was it in the movie or in the novel.

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<v Speaker 1>In the novel, I don't recall. I don't recall how

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<v Speaker 1>it described. I could be wrong on that, but wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>it have been funny though? If they were like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>standard operating procedure, we need a novelization of this film

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<v Speaker 1>and they assign it to somebody, and what if they

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<v Speaker 1>just turned in a copy of bron Stokers Dracula and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, it was just it was such a great adaptation,

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<v Speaker 1>like as it just as it worked out, the novelization

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<v Speaker 1>of the film is the original novel. That's just smart. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even realize that I had completely reproduced the

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<v Speaker 1>original brom Stoker's Dracula. I was just adapting the film. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna do it with any film, I would

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<v Speaker 1>say the Coppola adaptation is unusually faithful to the novel,

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<v Speaker 1>much more so than, uh, than most other adaptations I

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<v Speaker 1>can think of. Yeah, and I also have some really

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<v Speaker 1>fun performances in it. Yeah. All right, Well, we're gonna

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