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Speaker 1: But yeah, we've got some we've got some some news
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Speaker 1: go ahead and get to it. I don't want to
Speaker 1: waste any more time, Rob. Yesterday, a couple updates on
Speaker 1: some injuries. Yeah, Mike McCarthy ruled out three players for
Speaker 1: Monday Night. Um, Drance Armstrong with a high ankle sprain,
Speaker 1: Carlos Watkins with a nice sprain, and Tied Insecki who's
Speaker 1: had you know, the heat related illness from last week.
Speaker 1: So that must be really bad. That, Yeah, that must
Speaker 1: have been horrible If he's still dealing with that two
Speaker 1: weeks later, I think that well a week you know,
Speaker 1: they're just they're just being careful, you know, just don't
Speaker 1: you know, don't don't rush him back after that. I mean,
Speaker 1: that was a scary deal. So um, but he's gonna
Speaker 1: be all right. Um, but now the line depth tested
Speaker 1: once again on Monday Night. Good news is a Marie
Speaker 1: Cooper was on the fan yesterday and said he he
Speaker 1: thinks he'll be able to play on Monday Night with
Speaker 1: the bruised ribs. We've talked about the defensive line and
Speaker 1: we'll certainly hit it throughout the show again. But with
Speaker 1: a Marie Cooper supposedly being ready to go. How big
Speaker 1: of an addition is that? I know having a Marie
Speaker 1: Cooper is out there. But even if he's not one
Speaker 1: hundred percent, I mean, having him and Ceedee Lamb as
Speaker 1: one hundred percent is way better than not having him
Speaker 1: at all and trying to go with a one hundred
Speaker 1: percent Cedric Wilson, Right, Yeah, I mean I'm kind of weird.
Speaker 1: I guess I was actually looking forward, not looking forward,
Speaker 1: don't let me say that, because that sounds really bad.
Speaker 1: I was looking I guess I was. I was kind
Speaker 1: of looking forward to seeing how we handled not having
Speaker 1: Coop in on that side of the ball. Now before
Speaker 1: people start cursing me out much. Rather, I want Coop
Speaker 1: on the field. I want him healthy. I want I
Speaker 1: wanted to see that us overcome that adversity. We've seen
Speaker 1: our defense overcome that adversity. We've seen our office a
Speaker 1: line overcome the adversity, right, but we haven't seen we
Speaker 1: haven't been in a position where we had to overcome
Speaker 1: adversity at that position. So I was kind of I
Speaker 1: was kind of wanting to see some of our next
Speaker 1: guys have to step up and see how we addressed
Speaker 1: it against the secondary that we're really not that threatened
Speaker 1: by m I felt like it would have been an
Speaker 1: okay week to make sure that he's one hundred percent healthy, um,
Speaker 1: and if that was, if that required us resting him,
Speaker 1: then I was I was okay with that but having
Speaker 1: him on the field obviously gives us a greater chance
Speaker 1: of winning. Yeah, And I love in that interview he
Speaker 1: was talking about guys traveling with him and Darius Slade.
Speaker 1: We hope or figure that he will and the success
Speaker 1: that Michael Gallup had against him last year, we think
Speaker 1: Cede Lamb will have an opportunity to do have put
Speaker 1: up those kinds of numbers. But I think Cedric Wilson
Speaker 1: has is the guy with the opportunity because as the
Speaker 1: third receiver, he's going to be running up against safeties, linebackers,
Speaker 1: guys like that, or that you know, a nickel back,
Speaker 1: you're last week X factor, the tight ends man, they
Speaker 1: have an opportunity as well. And I think Coop is
Speaker 1: the caveat for that, because if you have a number
Speaker 1: one that you have to roll coverage to, I think
Speaker 1: everything else in your in your offense kind of flows
Speaker 1: a lot better. I see what you're saying about being
Speaker 1: able to overcome that adversity. Who is this team without you?
Speaker 1: We've we found out who we are without some of
Speaker 1: our stars on defense, and we've had some other guys
Speaker 1: to be elevated in their place. So I think offensively,
Speaker 1: having coop out there serves us well. But again it's
Speaker 1: going to be opportunity. Preparation has meant opportunity, and now
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson has that opportunity this week. The other guy
Speaker 1: we don't talk about enough when a receiver goes down
Speaker 1: I think is Tony Pollard. And obviously his touches came
Speaker 1: from mainly running the ball thirteen carries I think to
Speaker 1: Zeke sixteen last week. But they can use him and
Speaker 1: Zeke together in the backfield. They can they can split
Speaker 1: Tony out wide. They can do some different things with him,
Speaker 1: so they have other ways of supplementing production if an
Speaker 1: injury goes down in a different position. And you just
Speaker 1: mentioned the tight ends, they feel like they've got two
Speaker 1: starting tight ends and Dalton Schultz he continues to improve
Speaker 1: his game. You know, his blocking in the run game
Speaker 1: was good on Sunday as well. If you guys watch
Speaker 1: the tape. George Kittle is one of my favorite tight ends,
Speaker 1: and he's one of my favorite tight ends because of
Speaker 1: the way the way that he blocks against the Eagles.
Speaker 1: He was blocking guys to the gatorade buckets. He was
Speaker 1: putting guys on their back and you see that toughness
Speaker 1: and what they were able to establish in the running
Speaker 1: game because they had a tight end that can do that.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that we have the equivalent on this team.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is by committee, if we could get
Speaker 1: that kind of blocking, that may you know, we may
Speaker 1: be able to reap the benefits or even close to
Speaker 1: that kind of blocking. Yeah, it's not their first I mean,
Speaker 1: I think both guys as pass catchers, that's probably number
Speaker 1: one that stands out. But if you see Dalton Schultz
Speaker 1: improving in that regard, that that's only going to help
Speaker 1: this offense. Isn't that crazy how much Dalton Schultz has
Speaker 1: improved Because originally we thought of it the other way.
Speaker 1: We thought he was a blocking only tight end who
Speaker 1: didn't have any hands, didn't have any receiving ability, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, he's out here making sliding
Speaker 1: catches and really he's one of the most reliable targets
Speaker 1: on offense. Last year was this coming out party, and
Speaker 1: I think everybody got an opportunity to see that this
Speaker 1: is a guy that took full advantage of his opportunity.
Speaker 1: We've been saying it, and that's no slight to Jarwin.
Speaker 1: But I just believe the Schultz is just showing his value.
Speaker 1: What but I can't see what I'm thinking on the air,
Speaker 1: don't say it. I can't, I can't we do whatever
Speaker 1: it was the it was the the coming out party.
Speaker 1: My visual went to David Chappelle's kit with oh God,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, all right, yeah, you got it.
Speaker 1: That's that's good. Sticking along the same line of weapons
Speaker 1: and missing weapons. Of course, you don't have Michael Gallup
Speaker 1: six receptions last year in Week sixteen against the Eagles
Speaker 1: for one hundred and twenty one yards. He had two
Speaker 1: touchdowns in that game as well. You don't have him
Speaker 1: if you weren't going to have Mary Cooper. I kind
Speaker 1: of I'm along with you, Isaiah. You would have learned
Speaker 1: a lot about this wide receiving corps. Thank goodness, you
Speaker 1: don't have to worry exactly regular season Cooper game accounts.
Speaker 1: I want to learn more about these guys later on
Speaker 1: as the season goes along. But you would have seen
Speaker 1: one is Ceedee Lamb good enough to be your number
Speaker 1: one wide receiver even without help outside because no matter what,
Speaker 1: right now, throughout his career, he's had either Michael Gallop
Speaker 1: or a Mary Cooper on the other side of him.
Speaker 1: Could he be a number one by himself? Because of
Speaker 1: course there are contract questions on the horizon for this
Speaker 1: wide receiving corps. But also I wanted to see what
Speaker 1: Noah Brown and Cedric Wilson could do with an expanded
Speaker 1: role along with the tight ends, and if the Cowboys
Speaker 1: can get creative enough with Kellamore to try and push
Speaker 1: that offense forward. Yeah, I'm alongside with the same thing
Speaker 1: as you. I think we would have found out a lot.
Speaker 1: Luckily we don't have to think out He's like, goodness, um,
Speaker 1: so let me just say that Cowboys Nation. But I
Speaker 1: think we would have been in a position where we
Speaker 1: were missing our top two receivers. We just we just
Speaker 1: were in a game where we were missing our top
Speaker 1: two defensive ends. He guess what we found out? What
Speaker 1: can happen? Right? So now we know. Now we know
Speaker 1: throughout the rest of the season what we're capable of
Speaker 1: should something happen of that of that magnitude. If we
Speaker 1: were out, our top two receivers would have been out
Speaker 1: there with CD and said, and then who comes in
Speaker 1: after that? Noah Brown? And right, we don't know anything
Speaker 1: about Simmy his ability to play receiver at this level
Speaker 1: right now, and I think he has about three weeks
Speaker 1: left to figure that out. I'm being dead serious, you know,
Speaker 1: before Milik Turner comes back, because there's no question marks
Speaker 1: around Milik Turner. People know exactly who he is on offense,
Speaker 1: and they know exactly who he is on special team.
Speaker 1: So this is Simmy's tryout time. So I think Simmy
Speaker 1: was probably secretly hoping that he would have had some
Speaker 1: more playing time this week to have opportunities to prove
Speaker 1: that he deserves a spot on his roster, because things
Speaker 1: might swing around. He might find himself on a practice
Speaker 1: squad here soon. Now, we don't have to deal with
Speaker 1: this this week at all. I don't know what kind
Speaker 1: of shape of Mary Cooper will be in. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he'll be one hundred percent at all or not.
Speaker 1: But which one would have been a bigger loss, Rob,
Speaker 1: losing both of your defensive end or both of your
Speaker 1: top two wide receivers. Which one's a bigger loss for
Speaker 1: this matchup? For this one specifically, Man, God, I think
Speaker 1: probably both your defensive ends, because because I just think offensively,
Speaker 1: even without both your receivers, which is a big loss.
Speaker 1: You've still got a starting receiver in the NFL that's
Speaker 1: still healthy, you know, in Ceedee Lamb. And we just
Speaker 1: mentioned all the other ways they can manufacture offense. Defensively,
Speaker 1: they don't have that kind of depth, and I think,
Speaker 1: you know, I think the Eagles offense is going to
Speaker 1: challenge I mean, I got accuse on Twitter of gassing
Speaker 1: up the Sequels offense. I truly believe that they present
Speaker 1: problems with or speed, And Mike McCarthy actually mentioned that yesterday,
Speaker 1: speed and space is what they're worried about. So I
Speaker 1: know Isaiah said that edge pressure isn't as important. You know,
Speaker 1: I think they've got to be able to on the
Speaker 1: second level, be able to contain Jalen Hurts' speed, but
Speaker 1: they need they need guys up front who can manufacture
Speaker 1: a pass rush here. Yeah, no, philosophy is out the
Speaker 1: window when it comes down to getting pressure on Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1: I think everybody sees that in order to keep him contained,
Speaker 1: you got to get on him immediately. His ability to
Speaker 1: get outside the pocket and create with his legs and
Speaker 1: also with his arm second to none. But I just
Speaker 1: feel like when you look at the quarterbacks in this league.
Speaker 1: You know there are those that can play within the
Speaker 1: scheme of an offense, get the timing and things going.
Speaker 1: I don't see Jalen Hurts as being one of those guys.
Speaker 1: I think that he's still as a young quarterback trying
Speaker 1: to just find his sea legs and you know, if
Speaker 1: there's pressure, he automatically first thing in his mind is run.
Speaker 1: And you find this with a lot of those young quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: like with Lamar Jackson, he's the same way, and so
Speaker 1: decision making and touch and accuracy, I think he doesn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say he's the most accurate quarterback. Does have
Speaker 1: a deep ball, which he displayed against the forty nine
Speaker 1: is but still I think a lot of things that
Speaker 1: you see and Hurts he's still trying to mature as
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Yeah. In terms of which one would be
Speaker 1: more drastic to our team, I think that the receivers. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I think Hella Mark has scheming up enough things to
Speaker 1: still be successful. But I think that we would definitely
Speaker 1: be exposed if we didn't have gallop and seat, Gallop
Speaker 1: and coop out there. I think that would hurt us
Speaker 1: just from the standpoint of how you would approach things
Speaker 1: as a defensive coordinator. And now, for these guys usually
Speaker 1: play off coverage, I'm pressing right hen I'm rolling that safe.
Speaker 1: That safety doesn't have to be twenty twenty five yards
Speaker 1: deep like they are typically whenever you look at them
Speaker 1: on film. Now that safety is you know, fifteen yards deep.
Speaker 1: And now I got eight guys in the box and
Speaker 1: I'm telling them to play on the balls at their
Speaker 1: feet instead of playing on their heels. So this your
Speaker 1: approaches their approach is different, and I think guys would
Speaker 1: be forced to have to make big play versus things
Speaker 1: just kind of naturally coming to us. That's a horrible hypothetical, though,
Speaker 1: have you're almost there, You're almost, I mean we're very
Speaker 1: close to getting close. Now you do get Randy Gregory back,
Speaker 1: so that's nice, you get your defense Finn back, and
Speaker 1: of course, but then you're still down Armstrong. You lose
Speaker 1: Doge Armstrong, which hurts you. There that you got Mica,
Speaker 1: You got Mica, but you also don't have Keana Neil
Speaker 1: back in the second level. Let him play everywhere, do
Speaker 1: what he did Mica and leave the field on on Monday.
Speaker 1: I think we'd all agree that he doesn't need to
Speaker 1: leave the field any Thirty nine snaps last week is
Speaker 1: not enough. You got to bring that that snap count
Speaker 1: up and if you're down Dawn's armstrong. That affects the
Speaker 1: depth of this team. We've all already questioned the depth
Speaker 1: of this this team. On defense, he said, uh, what
Speaker 1: did he say yesterday or the other day? He said,
Speaker 1: I'm a wild bull. Wild bulls don't need to be paced.
Speaker 1: I don't need to be paced with my reps. So
Speaker 1: I need to run fresh. I need to run. Sounds
Speaker 1: like it's hard, knocks like he was calling dan Quinn
Speaker 1: on the phone trying to get more snaps back then.
Speaker 1: Sounds like a rookie must be nice to feel like that.
Speaker 1: Fresh legs, fresh legs. Yeah. But now his his spirit, man,
Speaker 1: everything about him just is just it seems awesome. And
Speaker 1: his approach to the game. He loves you, He genuinely
Speaker 1: loves the game. I mean, how many players have you
Speaker 1: seen that just that zoos out of them like that.
Speaker 1: You know, he just he just radiates off of that. Dude,
Speaker 1: you know, he really wants to be in the game.
Speaker 1: You know, some guys kind of say it and you
Speaker 1: feel that from him. I hope it stays that way
Speaker 1: because he's gonna have some success in this league. And
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope he keeps that. It's almost like
Speaker 1: a childhood dream. I mean, of course, it's a childhood
Speaker 1: dream for all of these guys, but he plays like
Speaker 1: a it's a kid's game. And I love that you
Speaker 1: got a reminder of how young he was during that interview,
Speaker 1: because he said, you're talking about preparing, and he's like,
Speaker 1: I go home and I play video games. Man. I
Speaker 1: enjoy being twenty two years old, and I pop on
Speaker 1: the iPad before I go to bed, just so when
Speaker 1: I wake up, the game plan is still fresh in
Speaker 1: my mind. But I don't try to let football rule
Speaker 1: my life. But the way he plays and the way
Speaker 1: his passion, you would think it might because he's all
Speaker 1: about ball man. Man, he has been uber impressive through
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Speaker 1: I said Calvin Watkins again in the going into the break.
Speaker 1: It's quick Watkins. I love Calvin, and maybe that's why
Speaker 1: I just automatically default to that. I did that like
Speaker 1: four times during training camp. You You and Calvin had
Speaker 1: that conversation during practice, literally talked about it with him,
Speaker 1: and I still keep doing it. But it's Carlos Watkins
Speaker 1: as cowboys are trying to replace. Thank goodness, cal frat
Speaker 1: boy vibes. How is that even an I'm so confused
Speaker 1: that was not It didn't seem he just wanted to
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, he just was waiting for some tiny
Speaker 1: window way to explain it. Yeah, you wanted that moment.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is a frat boy Friday, That's all
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's the only reason why it wasn't you
Speaker 1: in particular. And yet I'm the day Yeah today, I'm
Speaker 1: not the one that's wearing the polo. Ralph Lauren, Sure man,
Speaker 1: we are. We just gonna just brows over the fact
Speaker 1: that we were just threatened, were we? Yeah? In the break? Yeah,
Speaker 1: doing a break. I don't think that you don't want threat.
Speaker 1: That was definitely it was an intimidation tactic. I wasn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's like when the Iceland team showed up in D
Speaker 1: two the Mighty Ducks, you know, at the press conferences games,
Speaker 1: and just kind of let them know they were there.
Speaker 1: You know, I watched too much. The people didn't know
Speaker 1: they weren't there. So Danny, Danny, you know, from the
Speaker 1: from the players a lounge, I decided to come over here,
Speaker 1: you know, just because he's on The Survivor now here
Speaker 1: on national TV. You know, he think he can walk up.
Speaker 1: He think he could just walk up in our in
Speaker 1: our podcast and come in here and give us a
Speaker 1: look like he about to do something. He gave you
Speaker 1: the look. We're not a team. We meet all so
Speaker 1: now you're not Jalen. I'm in it with you now.
Speaker 1: We put thought we were Jalen. We are in it now,
Speaker 1: so wet. But the threat was too We French, yeah,
Speaker 1: we French, yeah, we we we gotta get you. I
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with this. Why am I getting
Speaker 1: beat up? It's own like Donkey comment. Yeah, Danny mccraig
Speaker 1: came by and kind of gave a look, just just
Speaker 1: wanted to check in trying to scout the competition, and
Speaker 1: then he just mosied on when when about his own
Speaker 1: he saw him go ahead, he saw the extra medium.
Speaker 1: He ain't on the part that medium small medium slashing between.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, how are the Cowboys going to rotate
Speaker 1: this defensive line? No DeMarcus Lawrence, No Dorn's Armstrong, No
Speaker 1: your boy Carlos watching your boy? Bradley and I. You're talking,
Speaker 1: all right, he's here, he is here. Is that how
Speaker 1: he's gonna get He's gonna get playing time? This way?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna find out if the boy can play?
Speaker 1: We have found out. We've got the sample size of
Speaker 1: what Bradley and I can do. These guys are on
Speaker 1: the fifty three. Yeah, they're there, But have we gotten
Speaker 1: any Let's go back to put number fifty six. Have
Speaker 1: we gotten the production due to this point? After two games? Dude?
Speaker 1: How do we feel about Bradley and I at this point?
Speaker 1: I mean snaps as he played. I mean he's not
Speaker 1: a lot ten first game, maybe ten. I mean he's
Speaker 1: played ten snaps a game so far. I think it's
Speaker 1: probably close to that. And the ten you in the
Speaker 1: ten that you noticed him in the game I'm asking pe.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, twenty four total. You're counting on Andy obviously,
Speaker 1: Terrell bash him on the other side, who's a little
Speaker 1: banged up in his own right. And I have no
Speaker 1: inside knowledge of this, but I would imagine Michael Parsons
Speaker 1: going to do some of what he did against the Chargers.
Speaker 1: He was too good at it, and I know there's
Speaker 1: more challenges this week. Lane Johnson's a great tackle, but
Speaker 1: like they need to, like I said, manufacture some pass rush.
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't be surprised if he kind of does
Speaker 1: a little bit of both. He's off the ball and
Speaker 1: he's rushing, just like he didn't Week one. Well Toorell
Speaker 1: bash him, you still have him. He's you know, he's
Speaker 1: got a splash at a certain point. I see the
Speaker 1: way that dan Quinn uses him. He's also a rusher,
Speaker 1: but he also drops back in the zone as well.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's all hands on Deck and
Speaker 1: Raley and I. As you pointed out, he's got to
Speaker 1: make an impact and do the most with the opportunity
Speaker 1: that he's been given. But I just feel like Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons is the great neutralizer of all of this. You know,
Speaker 1: you allow him to do what he does against lane
Speaker 1: on the right side, against the rugby player. Also go back,
Speaker 1: going back to what I say, he wants him to
Speaker 1: spy a little bit. I just think that you give
Speaker 1: your playmakers the opportunity to do what they do, and
Speaker 1: that's what he does. So why not let's not hold
Speaker 1: him back. Let's unveil the Buzuka fun on Sunday. It
Speaker 1: was fun. But I'm just telling I just don't want
Speaker 1: to waste him. I don't want to waste him. Just
Speaker 1: to say, just to just to appeal to our our
Speaker 1: you know, our what we want, right, our our little
Speaker 1: our little fetish that we have that we want to
Speaker 1: see him come off the ball all fast, right, We
Speaker 1: want to see him come off the ball and apply
Speaker 1: pressure to the tackles and get up field and then
Speaker 1: it would yeah, I mean whatever, I mean, whatever you
Speaker 1: want to attach to what I mean. But we want
Speaker 1: to people want to see him be athletic, sure, right,
Speaker 1: And I don't want us to. I don't want our
Speaker 1: our wants, right, our our our desires to be such
Speaker 1: that he addresses our desires. But at the same time
Speaker 1: it's ineffective in terms of our plan and That's that's all.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. And yes, but I think maybe
Speaker 1: you should spring him into a couple of plays. But
Speaker 1: I don't believe that he has the most he will
Speaker 1: have the most effect at defensive end in this particular game.
Speaker 1: Then he would at a middle linebacker position because this
Speaker 1: spying because I want him to have his eye on Hurts.
Speaker 1: I want Hurts to come to the line of the
Speaker 1: scrimmage every time is say crap, that dude is gonna
Speaker 1: go wherever the heck I go. I tend to agree
Speaker 1: with that because somebody's got to do it. Yeah, somebody.
Speaker 1: It was C. J. Goodwin who hadn't played defense all
Speaker 1: year long last year, who all of a sudden it
Speaker 1: was in there for sixteen snaps because he's got the speed.
Speaker 1: So somebody's got to be taking on that role. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so that same thinking can't work this week. I
Speaker 1: was just gonna say, I think Neil could have filled
Speaker 1: that role if the defensive line depth was as thin
Speaker 1: as it looks like it will be on Monday, and
Speaker 1: then if you had Neil in the second level, I
Speaker 1: think he could have easily spied Hurts because of his athleticism.
Speaker 1: I would have put him over that role instead of Laton,
Speaker 1: vander h Er Jalen Smith. But now now that Neil's
Speaker 1: not available, I tend to agree with Isaiah. I think
Speaker 1: you got to back him up. I mean, in your
Speaker 1: time in the NFL, who were some of the great
Speaker 1: pass rushers like straighthand guys like that. Where where I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's there's there's some guys for sure, but I mean
Speaker 1: the game's changed right so that the d ns that
Speaker 1: were back then were bigger, bigger guys, more dominant guys.
Speaker 1: But I don't care. There's only one defensive end that
Speaker 1: I could there too, that I that I could think
Speaker 1: about that would even give us any or give me
Speaker 1: any kind of problems. Yeah, here make me want to
Speaker 1: think his second second guest my ability to get out
Speaker 1: the pocket, and that's um Mac and von Miller. And
Speaker 1: that's just because those guys ability to be able to
Speaker 1: spend back and you know, the gaps that you think
Speaker 1: that you have, you don't have them anymore. Um And
Speaker 1: they could just be that dominant every play, but you
Speaker 1: know that that's where they're going to be. They can't
Speaker 1: be anywhere else. I don't think Parsons is that guy
Speaker 1: and to have him line up across and that's no
Speaker 1: disrespect to him. He's just not there. That's that's what
Speaker 1: the those guys do. Let's just say that, to line
Speaker 1: up and have Jalen Hurts four five four six. Guy, Okay,
Speaker 1: looking at you, Michael Parsons, You're bigger, you're faster, you're stronger.
Speaker 1: I can't get away from you no matter what I do. Right,
Speaker 1: if I sit in the pocket, you're still in the
Speaker 1: middle of a dog on field, and you still can
Speaker 1: make anybody pay who decides to come across your way.
Speaker 1: But if I decide to take off, guess what I
Speaker 1: have to deal with you. That's what I want. I
Speaker 1: want him sitting in the middle, cleaning up anything that
Speaker 1: comes across right, regardless if you're in cover three, regardless
Speaker 1: if you're in cover one, because you're covering one, spy right,
Speaker 1: you're spying him right. He's in the middle Cover two,
Speaker 1: he's in the middle Cover three. He's still in the
Speaker 1: little hook drop. No matter what, he's still right there.
Speaker 1: And you always keep your eye on Hurts. And if
Speaker 1: he wants to go one direction, guess what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be in your hip pocket. This isn't about pigeonholding him
Speaker 1: to one position. What this is about is using his
Speaker 1: athletic ability that you know that he has, and especially
Speaker 1: in a situation like this, thank god you have this
Speaker 1: type of apex guy to get after the quarterback. Also,
Speaker 1: when you talk about von Miller, you can't negate his
Speaker 1: effect on games from a pass rushing standpoint. He's the
Speaker 1: best defender on their team and they don't use him
Speaker 1: at linebacker. His ability to present and get pressure on
Speaker 1: the quarterback. You have to get pressure on the quarterback.
Speaker 1: You look at this this defense last year that was
Speaker 1: Achilles Hill. We could not get any pressure. And when
Speaker 1: you finally have a guy to do it, we're saying
Speaker 1: that we're limiting him. I don't think so. I think
Speaker 1: you're more in a position to get the pressure that
Speaker 1: you need to create the turnovers that you have been getting.
Speaker 1: That's and I'm with you there, like I don't disagree
Speaker 1: with you. I think that's a valuable role to have.
Speaker 1: I also think though, if you're if you're not getting
Speaker 1: to Jalen Hurts, then he I think he's shown more
Speaker 1: of a propensity to I can sit in the pocket
Speaker 1: and I can make throws if if I've got time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and week one they did not get enough pressure. I
Speaker 1: know it's Tom Brady, but they didn't get enough pressure,
Speaker 1: and so that's got to come from somewhere. If they're
Speaker 1: not getting it, then they mean need to drop him
Speaker 1: down and let him help rush, even whether it's a
Speaker 1: maybe it's a blitz situation and didn't necessarily be lining
Speaker 1: up on the edge. I'm saying, I'm rushing that way.
Speaker 1: Any other time I would agree with you, guys. Less
Speaker 1: we're playing Hurts, Wilson or Jackson. Any other time I
Speaker 1: would agree with you, guys. But the downside to getting
Speaker 1: pressure on Jaylen Hurts is he's getting away from that
Speaker 1: pressure and now the big plays that they rely on
Speaker 1: to win games happen. Do you know him sitting in
Speaker 1: the pocket, Those big players don't happen because you could
Speaker 1: sit back in coverage. That's all I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: don't disagree with you that you can sprinkle them in
Speaker 1: there and makes, you know, have him rushed all every
Speaker 1: so often. But understand they want you to get pressure
Speaker 1: on Hurts because when you have pressure on Hurts, that's
Speaker 1: when he could find a scene. And now there's no
Speaker 1: guys at the second level, and now you're down there's
Speaker 1: the guy. Now their guys are getting past your guys.
Speaker 1: They're faster than our guys. Yea. Their receivers are faster
Speaker 1: than our dbs. Let's lay that on the table right now.
Speaker 1: Those guys are probably the second fastest receiving corps in
Speaker 1: this league. Agreed, So why give them a chance to
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to run by our guys. I feel
Speaker 1: much more confident sitting back there and playing coverage and
Speaker 1: making Jalen throw the ball in gaps. They don't throw
Speaker 1: the ball. That's not how they play on offense, yea.
Speaker 1: Their offenses is a big player or nothing. Yeah, Jayalen
Speaker 1: Hurts isn't. And for all of the name and everything,
Speaker 1: I think the recognition with him when you throw him
Speaker 1: in the company that you just did, I don't think
Speaker 1: that he's that he's there yet to that point. And
Speaker 1: you know, and I look at the way that other
Speaker 1: teams have played him, he didn't, you know, he didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't torment the forty nine ers last week with
Speaker 1: all the things that you're talking about. So getting pressure,
Speaker 1: getting him on the ground, containing him, not allowing him
Speaker 1: to change his lunch points whenever he wants to. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys have to continue to generate this. Is it realistic
Speaker 1: that we're gonna get three turnovers each and every game,
Speaker 1: you know, But so at some point, sex strip fumbles
Speaker 1: things like that have to factor in. And the way
Speaker 1: that they're playing and the way that dan Quinn has
Speaker 1: dialled it up, and especially with the guys that you're missing,
Speaker 1: you have to get pressure on the quarterback this week.
Speaker 1: The other thing is too somebody's gotta be able to
Speaker 1: cover Miles Sanders. Yep, Gainwell. They got guys out of
Speaker 1: the backfield that, you know, a Micael Parsons style skill set,
Speaker 1: can chase and cover and do all that stuff. I
Speaker 1: think Gainwell presents an interesting challenge. I think I like
Speaker 1: his skill set. I liked him out of Memphis last year,
Speaker 1: and he's had a pretty silent start to the year.
Speaker 1: I was talking with one of the Eagles reporters yesterday
Speaker 1: and I asked him, under the radar guy on offense,
Speaker 1: give me one guy, He said, Kenneth Gainwell. He didn't
Speaker 1: say Quas Watkins, who had the ninety one yard reception
Speaker 1: last week. He didn't say anybody like that. He said
Speaker 1: watch out for Gainewell. He's probably going to be the
Speaker 1: starter there at some point throughout the year. It's just
Speaker 1: even as a rookie. Oh no, so your safety's gonna
Speaker 1: have to play. No, agree, I just sure, I just
Speaker 1: for us, we need to get off the field because
Speaker 1: he need to get off the field. Absolutely. When you do,
Speaker 1: it's a double edged sword when you decide to go
Speaker 1: after a quarterback. Like, I'm not scared of him, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, know how to attack him. Well, it's it's
Speaker 1: a skill set. It's a skill set. It's not it's
Speaker 1: not even a fact that, yes, the big plays there,
Speaker 1: they rely on those big plays, and those big plays
Speaker 1: come when he gets out of the pocket. But the
Speaker 1: other thing that I'm worried about that people don't really
Speaker 1: remember throughout the game is when he gets out the pocket,
Speaker 1: he runs for twelve yards and now it's a first down, right,
Speaker 1: And then they go a sequence to other plays and
Speaker 1: then he guess what, Then he runs again and it's
Speaker 1: another eight ten yards and it's another first down. Those
Speaker 1: that are plays that sustained rise and that's what ends
Speaker 1: up killing you. That's what I'm talking about. Those plays
Speaker 1: are the ones that are going to destroy us if
Speaker 1: we decide that we want to all of a sudden
Speaker 1: get pressure on him. And he's just like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: thank you. There's nobody at the second level now for me.
Speaker 1: I'm gone, I like it. You don't put him on
Speaker 1: his ass. I hope. So I like that idea. How
Speaker 1: about that? Say it with your chest right there? Heck
Speaker 1: my Harrison, I'm just saying that. Cool with it. I
Speaker 1: like it. Let's go ahead and take a break. When
Speaker 1: we come back, say it with your chest. Friday, time
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Speaker 1: could unsee lating pick to very ww No, you can
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Speaker 1: They have to give it attention. Yeah, take a budget
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Speaker 1: Passionate is passion All right, let's update the Talking Cowboys
Speaker 1: Pick Them standings. We've got about seven minutes to till
Speaker 1: we are off the show. Talk about it. Rounding out
Speaker 1: the bottom four for the Dallas Cowboys at four and
Speaker 1: seven and a one and one record with the Cowboys
Speaker 1: Pick Them heck ma, Harris, and it is in fourth
Speaker 1: place at the moment. I'm what what'd you say? It
Speaker 1: was four and what? Four and seven? Okay, four and seven,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be third. I know that Rob Phillips is
Speaker 1: in third at four and seven as well, but he
Speaker 1: is two and oh in the Cowboys pick thems, so
Speaker 1: he has gotten both Cowboys games. Right, it's four and
Speaker 1: seven second place, Isaiah stand back four or excuse me,
Speaker 1: five and six, and he is one and one with
Speaker 1: the cow was his record last week? I've got pass
Speaker 1: No last week? Did he pitch up? Did he pitch
Speaker 1: a opa? Uh? No? He got he got a couple
Speaker 1: of games? Right? No, last he went, he went three
Speaker 1: and three. Do you see the how passionate he is
Speaker 1: about me trying to Yeah, he went three and three
Speaker 1: last week since that. No, no, no, it's no passion.
Speaker 1: I want to Hey, what I want to do this
Speaker 1: is this is giving you back what you give. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what that is. This is a twin twin tree
Speaker 1: or something. Is that was happening. Oh yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 1: make something out of it. It don't worry at some point.
Speaker 1: I don't know when we'll do it. But and then
Speaker 1: talking at the top of the talking standings, mister Kyle
Speaker 1: Yeoman's with an eight and three record. I went five
Speaker 1: and one last week, so thank you everybody. Eight and three. Pause,
Speaker 1: I'm eight and three. It's really super early. I do
Speaker 1: have a three game lead at the moment. We've got
Speaker 1: some fun ones on Sunday. Let's start with the Chargers
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs. The Chiefs have won thirty one of
Speaker 1: their last thirty five games against the AFC West. That's
Speaker 1: a lot of dominance from Kansas City. Rob will start
Speaker 1: with you, Pad Mahomes. Ain't losing two games in a row.
Speaker 1: Kansas City, Bam tyreek. Okay, it's Kansas City love catchup? Yeah,
Speaker 1: give me Casey as well. The Washington football team on
Speaker 1: the road against the Buffalo Bills. They've won seven of
Speaker 1: eight against Washington. Heckma, come Mafia. I'll take the Bills
Speaker 1: as well. Isaiah contemplate their quarterback. I hurt Henekey time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Fitz Magic is not in It's Henekey Henikey time. He's
Speaker 1: not bad, He's pretty good, dude. I'm gonna let's go Washington. Nice, Okay,
Speaker 1: switching it up a little bit. A lot of people
Speaker 1: going through tables up there in New York on on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Bills Mafia, baby uh, Falcons in the Giants a pillow
Speaker 1: fight in the NFC. Atlanta allowing forty forty points per
Speaker 1: game through the first couple of weeks. It's a hard
Speaker 1: game to pick, though, Isaiah, it is a hard game
Speaker 1: to pick. Um. I think I'm ready to see a
Speaker 1: little san a Quango. Yeah, change up, okay, Giants un
Speaker 1: Giants on this one. I'll go with the Falcons. I
Speaker 1: think Matteney Ryan Mattie Ice gives it to Kyle Pitts
Speaker 1: a lot because he's on my fantasy team. So yeah,
Speaker 1: the Falcons personnel, they're due for a better game. Run
Speaker 1: game eighteen shouting yeah, yeah, so you're picking Atlanta as well. Oh,
Speaker 1: split table on that one. I like you. That's a
Speaker 1: good game to pick, all right. Up at Gillette Stadium
Speaker 1: in New England, New Orleans, Saints look to bounce back
Speaker 1: after they were beaten pretty severely last week and the
Speaker 1: Patriots still trying to figure things out. With Mac Jones,
Speaker 1: I'll start on this one. Give me the Patriots at
Speaker 1: home to get it done against Jameis Winston and the Saints. Oh,
Speaker 1: looked really good in Week one, but then they'll fall
Speaker 1: to one and two. Rob give me the Saints on
Speaker 1: the road. Nice, all right, Sean Payton, damn it. I
Speaker 1: don't have to, I know, I just I just feel
Speaker 1: like Sean Payton's just not gonna allow that to happen again.
Speaker 1: You can't say that for Bill Belichick. He doesn't have
Speaker 1: all the personnel. Yeah, it's true. I'm going Mac Jones
Speaker 1: all right, split it, Yes, brothers, this is a fun one.
Speaker 1: We didn't wear the same shot the Buccaneers and the Rams.
Speaker 1: How about that? Whereas it's in La at so Fie Stadium. Tackline. Nice.
Speaker 1: I know you gonna pick against TV twelve, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna take the Rams. WHOA take the Rams?
Speaker 1: He likes me in the fourth place. I'm going with
Speaker 1: TB twelve, TB twelve, okay, and Gronk Cronk. I'm going
Speaker 1: Rams what I'm going Rams? Oh? Look at that? Oh
Speaker 1: my god? Now two more tuesdowns for Grounk. I'm going.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Buccaneers too, So we call
Speaker 1: is this a split table for the third straight game?
Speaker 1: Look at here? I love that. By the way, Tom
Speaker 1: Brady has done a lot of things in his career,
Speaker 1: and we knew that already, lots of them. This is
Speaker 1: his first career game played in Los Angeles. He had
Speaker 1: never played a game in LA until uh Sunday. I
Speaker 1: can't wait till next week's game. Oh yeah, you're right
Speaker 1: that New England. Oh um, okay. I'll give one more
Speaker 1: game before the Cowboys and then we'll wrap things up.
Speaker 1: Packers and forty Niners. Aaron Rodgers five and six career
Speaker 1: record versus Sam Francisco. As he has struggled in his
Speaker 1: career against the forty nine ers, I think he does
Speaker 1: not struggle on the road this time. Give me the
Speaker 1: pack attack, baby, Rob. Yeah, he's back, he's back. Everybody
Speaker 1: wanted to write him off after Week one, Rogers in
Speaker 1: the pack, going with castaway Rogers. Okay, okay, so pack
Speaker 1: across the table that time. Now it's time for the
Speaker 1: Monday Night football, the Dallas Cowboys and the Philadelphia Eagles
Speaker 1: and what it will be prime time first NFC East
Speaker 1: Divisional matchup for both teams this year. We will start
Speaker 1: things off with Isaiah Dan Pack who you got on Monday?
Speaker 1: I'm going with a deja blue. None of that green
Speaker 1: stuff now, nothing green is means are sick? Got the Cowboys? Baby?
Speaker 1: All right? Rob Cowboys. I think there's a lot about
Speaker 1: this matchup that makes me a little a little uneasy.
Speaker 1: I think they got more talent than Philly than we're
Speaker 1: Maybe some people give them credit for it because they
Speaker 1: lost last week. But Dak Prescott against a more inexperienced
Speaker 1: quarterback home opener, it's gonna be rocking full house. Didn't
Speaker 1: have that last year. Cowboys win, all right, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pick the Cowboys as well. Fourth straight win at home
Speaker 1: for Dallas against Philadelphia. You do know it's homecoming week
Speaker 1: around here, right, A lot of homecoming courts and this
Speaker 1: is our homecoming getting back to Arlington Stadium. You alluded
Speaker 1: to it earlier this week, how we needed a home
Speaker 1: field advantage, needed everyone to show up loud and proud,
Speaker 1: going with the Cowboys. We gotta get a win. That's it.
Speaker 1: I'm Cowboys across the table. That'll do it for us
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