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Speaker 2: Joe Ah, I'm doing great, brother, deebo, I'm doing great.
Speaker 2: I missed you, my brother, honestly I did. I did,
Speaker 2: brother from another It's been too long. It's been too.
Speaker 1: Long, way too long, brother. What seventeenth seventeen eight, something
Speaker 1: like that. Oh, my goodness, brother. A lot of days, brother,
Speaker 1: A lot of days, A lot of days, and I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. I took advantage of those days, you bo.
Speaker 1: I took advantage of those days.
Speaker 2: I did a couple of I golfed, I did some
Speaker 2: golf trips. I went back out to New York, Surprise,
Speaker 2: New Jersey. I went to Oak Hill, beautiful course. Ho A,
Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, you just went golfing. I know
Speaker 2: that's one of.
Speaker 1: No I'm asking you just said the hell with it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to go play on some green
Speaker 1: grass that you could get in VA.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm going to go play pristine, nice courses that
Speaker 2: I haven't here.
Speaker 1: To tell me it was some charity event to it,
Speaker 1: something that was more than you just running around to
Speaker 1: some other grass.
Speaker 2: Nope, me going to a PGA tour course by my
Speaker 2: man Ben that hosted me and my brother and my
Speaker 2: boy Sean, my brother John than my boy Sewn. We
Speaker 2: all went out there and we went and had a
Speaker 2: great day. And from there, what was the score? But
Speaker 2: I shoot, yeah this, I haven't played none a lot.
Speaker 1: You see when he starts stuttering, y'all already know it
Speaker 1: was some trash.
Speaker 2: I shot really bad shot. I shot like an I
Speaker 2: shot like a ninety five. I shot like a ninety five. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's good, Almost got now, I don't not go fork
Speaker 2: how that worked? So I shot, I shot like a
Speaker 2: I shot like a fifty. I saw like a fifty
Speaker 2: forty five depot.
Speaker 1: You want to suit a hundred, that's an A, right,
Speaker 1: that's an A. That's a that's a that's terrible.
Speaker 2: You want to get closer to seventy two is the better?
Speaker 2: So I normally shoot in the high eighties. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like eighty six, forty three on the front,
Speaker 2: forty three on the back. That's normally my score, like
Speaker 2: right around in eighty six. That's solid. This one I
Speaker 2: haven't played in a long time. So we did that.
Speaker 2: Then from there, Debot went to Jersey, ran back some
Speaker 2: more golf, went to Trout National Fire Golf Course, Mike
Speaker 2: Trout Tiger Woods Course. Okay, okay, the member guest, I.
Speaker 1: Know what you're talking about. I remember that one because
Speaker 1: I was in there. I was in design of that course.
Speaker 1: I remember that. There you go, just there we go.
Speaker 1: I just like you, just lying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just Debo played and remember guess my boy, Ross,
Speaker 2: we came in fourth place, you know, and obviously you
Speaker 2: didn't help. I did not help. I did not help.
Speaker 2: Ross played so good, but I brought the vibes. I
Speaker 2: was making sure he was good. We had the caddy.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, kicking it. But Ross definitely
Speaker 2: played way better than me. I gotta get my I
Speaker 2: gotta get my swings back right, I gotta stop often.
Speaker 1: You got you got to get back into the groove
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: I got to Okay. So and then after that one,
Speaker 2: one thing after that, I went and got my brain
Speaker 2: and body scanned. I went and got my hip chat,
Speaker 2: I went and got my hips checked out what.
Speaker 1: They find out about that old Janki ass hip and that.
Speaker 2: Hip Janki debo. Where you're gonna get that done at bro. Man, listen,
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna get it done yet, because they told me.
Speaker 2: Once I get it done, I can't play back. I
Speaker 2: can't run for court basketball no more. So, Oh you
Speaker 2: gotta have it cut up. I got man, Listen, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna have to get some I'm gonna have to like,
Speaker 2: I can do some rehab and stuff, but it's not
Speaker 2: gonna get I'm not gonna start back doing my crazy
Speaker 2: windmills and stuff. I don't think so. Yeah, but with meal,
Speaker 2: what a windmill dunk?
Speaker 1: I lie used to I used to go win mill.
Speaker 1: You know you can still win mill. Don't mean you
Speaker 1: go slamm it in a ten foot basket.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about a ten foot regulation hoop debo. I
Speaker 2: was I can I could win mel. Not now, not anymore,
Speaker 2: no more, Joe. Look here, man, hey, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: We had a great time at a fan fest over there,
Speaker 1: fanatics Fest. Sorry man, I want to say fanatics fest,
Speaker 1: the whole the whole thing, fanatics Fest. That way, everybody
Speaker 1: know what we're talking about. But shout out, Stephanie mean
Speaker 1: man throwing me up on there, cam Ward, great interview.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you stopping out for us, boy, Joe. So I
Speaker 1: went and I did body work. So as soon as
Speaker 1: I left New York, I flew to LA, you know,
Speaker 1: so I could take care of my body. You went
Speaker 1: just running around Gallivanton, not taking care of the old
Speaker 1: janky ass hip you got. I went on head, went
Speaker 1: straight to LA, went to see my guy Jimmy Bluff.
Speaker 1: Got body work for about two three days straight. So boom,
Speaker 1: boom boom, about twelve hours of work, three six three, great,
Speaker 1: great great.
Speaker 2: Went from there straight to a Z. Got to a Z.
Speaker 1: Had to see my trainer, I and Danny Pep performance
Speaker 1: enhancement professionals out there in Chimpee, Arizona.
Speaker 2: Yep, you understand, get some more work in running around
Speaker 2: you hip JANKI and everything else.
Speaker 1: You want to play on golf and you can't even
Speaker 1: get your swing right like probably because that hit.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I'm gonna get it right, though,
Speaker 2: I got I really need to start like you're saying, people,
Speaker 2: I gotta start doing the like I said, the dry needling,
Speaker 2: the thorough Hey, got to start doing it more way
Speaker 2: more often. When I stopped. That's you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: They like it's get that Joe, Joe, Joe, how do
Speaker 2: you think this works?
Speaker 1: You think you eat healthy for a while, then you
Speaker 1: ain't got to eat healthy for a while, and you
Speaker 1: still go stay healthy.
Speaker 2: It don't work like that, Joe. My body maintain is.
Speaker 2: And I'm five eleven and I found out I was
Speaker 2: five eleven. I told you eighty pounds.
Speaker 1: I told you wasn't no, you wasn't no six foot
Speaker 1: and you five eleven.
Speaker 2: When I went to the and I you're just saying
Speaker 2: you six.
Speaker 1: Foot Now you're saying you grew, bro, you were so
Speaker 1: you were actually five five ten something.
Speaker 2: I was five ten and seven eights at the combine,
Speaker 2: and I was trying to tell you that I grew
Speaker 2: so I knew I was.
Speaker 1: They just didn't measure it completely straight there because they
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, we're gonna.
Speaker 2: Just give you the average.
Speaker 1: We're gonna say it's five eleven because you were you
Speaker 1: were you was actually five.
Speaker 2: Ten and and and and.
Speaker 1: A little bit over half. So he said, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: just give you five eleven. What that's your doctor?
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I can't even five eleven one eighty.
Speaker 1: Five eleven one eighty Yeah, listen, Joe, I'm just I'm trying.
Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm trying to tell you, man, Now, after
Speaker 1: I got back, I ain't gonna lie. I ain't really
Speaker 1: do much or nothing.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I did a little charity event. I think it was Sunday,
Speaker 1: snow that No, what's today?
Speaker 2: Today? Friday? Friday, bruh, thirty, first July.
Speaker 1: I'm tripping, So it might have been like a couple
Speaker 1: of days ago I went and did tomorrow. It was
Speaker 1: at the zoo or something, Presley Ridge. I think they
Speaker 1: do a lot of things to help families, kids, adoption,
Speaker 1: all that other stuff.
Speaker 2: Is great, great, great organization.
Speaker 1: But that's going on ahead, and see what happened with
Speaker 1: your boy over there? And well, I guess I guess
Speaker 1: it's Philly.
Speaker 2: Is it Philly? Where's your boy? Lebron go? Oh? You
Speaker 2: know where Bron went? Bron went the Philly. So but
Speaker 2: this is let me, let me let me break it down.
Speaker 1: To Yeah, I can hear you, this is the this
Speaker 1: is the the you sound a little echo, That's all.
Speaker 2: I was sad. Honestly at first initial thoughts, I wanted
Speaker 2: him to come back to Cleveland. Obviously, you know, I
Speaker 2: wanted him to come back to Cleveland because of the
Speaker 2: because of the court side seats and the connection that
Speaker 2: we have out there. I wanted us to be able
Speaker 2: to go there and be able to kick it with Broun.
Speaker 2: I wanted it. I wanted it more. Who was us? Us?
Speaker 2: Is me? You and the city of Cleveland. That's okay,
Speaker 2: That's why I say us what I wanted Braun to
Speaker 2: come back to Cleveland. I initially would just shocked and
Speaker 2: hurt because I'm like, damn, I wanted it for me selfishly.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lie, Joe. I looked at your story. I
Speaker 1: think I might have. I think it was some tears.
Speaker 2: I was. I was. I was sad. I was sad, honestly, genuinely,
Speaker 2: just because I wanted him to come back. I knew
Speaker 2: this was probably gonna be his final time to see Broun.
Speaker 2: Just no matter what anybody says about Lebron, love him
Speaker 2: or hate him, He's eventually going to leave the league.
Speaker 2: So he said this is going to be his last decision,
Speaker 2: this gonna be his last team. I would have hoped that,
Speaker 2: just been able to go to the Cavs games in
Speaker 2: the land, knowing how much they love him and having
Speaker 2: him a chance to win the championship because they do
Speaker 2: have a mob, and he's coming for the low. He
Speaker 2: wasn't going to have to like take no other parts.
Speaker 2: Now when I see it he signed there for four
Speaker 2: million for eight million, I'm like, do he signed for
Speaker 2: vet Men? Tie for vet menh?
Speaker 1: So that's when you do That's why.
Speaker 2: But that's why Debo this this move for me is
Speaker 2: really like, that's why. I'm just like, it's it's whatever
Speaker 2: Bron wanted to do. I was happy where Bron wanted
Speaker 2: to go. Is your decision, Broun. You've been playing the league,
Speaker 2: You've done everybody justice. So why do you think because
Speaker 2: they got the squad, they have a mob, and it's
Speaker 2: not like they were already been winning championships. He wasn't
Speaker 2: have to go to the Warriors and playing with Steph Curry.
Speaker 2: Know they already won some stuff. Goes to San Antonio.
Speaker 2: Oh no, they already won. Uh he didn't go back
Speaker 2: to Miami. I thought that was gonna be one. That
Speaker 2: would have been a smooth one with Giannis, the new
Speaker 2: squad they got, but I think Philly just looking at
Speaker 2: the roster and then they got Jalen Brown. Also just
Speaker 2: the players, Tyrese Maxi, the rook the rookie DJ Joel Embiid,
Speaker 2: just Brunn and Jalen Brown and then you add in
Speaker 2: Braun and don't have to take away no pieces. So
Speaker 2: if you're just looking at that mob right there, that five,
Speaker 2: that's an unbelievable vive. I don't care what anybody's talking about.
Speaker 2: The only thing they have to worry about is Joel
Speaker 2: Embiid's health. You know what I'm saying with jelum so
Speaker 2: Joel Eenbe's health. But with this team knowing what you
Speaker 2: gotta do just make it to the playoffs. You have
Speaker 2: Joel Ebid on a real schedule where he's playing well,
Speaker 2: I don't know his schedule. ISS gonna look crazy. He
Speaker 2: might not be playing that many games half the season
Speaker 2: at max just making sure that when we get to
Speaker 2: the playoff, we get to the end. It sounds crazy,
Speaker 2: but last season was the first season he didn't get
Speaker 2: to have to come off for like a surgery or something.
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at Philly like they got a stacked mob.
Speaker 2: Tyrese Maxi is unbelievable. Jaylen Brown addition to this team,
Speaker 2: like he's one of the top ten players in the league,
Speaker 2: and with additional with Broun and knowing that Broun now
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be going crazy averaging thirty. You got
Speaker 2: so many buckets on your team, and now you could
Speaker 2: just be passing le Bron always good to pass it.
Speaker 2: Now Bron spotting up, being able to set people up.
Speaker 2: It looks crazy.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, listen, let me slow you down a little bit,
Speaker 1: because this podcast right here is going out and people
Speaker 1: are Cleveland are seeing this.
Speaker 2: Yes, and.
Speaker 1: Uh Dan Gilbert, yeah, he probably is going to see this.
Speaker 1: And right now, to me, it's sounding like you're a
Speaker 1: full fledged Philly fan.
Speaker 2: So when you try and get those court.
Speaker 1: Side seats that you've been getting blessed with, I want
Speaker 1: you to remember these words you were saying.
Speaker 2: This is this is what I am making a basketball analysis.
Speaker 2: I'm still rooting for the Cleveland Cavaliers. The Cleveland Cavaliers
Speaker 2: on my basketball squad. That's my team. I want them
Speaker 2: to do to win the championship. I think they're gonna
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna meet hope to lose if it
Speaker 2: comes down. I don't want them to have to put
Speaker 2: me in. If they put me in this situation, that's
Speaker 2: gonna be the tough situation to be in. But I
Speaker 2: woulould love to have to be in that situation to
Speaker 2: figure it out. It's Philly, and that's what you call
Speaker 2: a win win situation. For me, who do you want
Speaker 2: to win?
Speaker 1: It ain't nothing, ain't the such thing as a win
Speaker 1: win situation, Joe, Because if I ask you right now,
Speaker 1: we got Cleveland Browns and we got the Pittsburgh Stillers
Speaker 1: going against each other, and whoever win that win, I
Speaker 1: know who you want to win?
Speaker 2: You want to win it. It's impossible, Well, the Browns
Speaker 2: because they ain't winning. We need one, y'all being stingy,
Speaker 2: y'all got to no share the Well, Browns need one
Speaker 2: before y'all need another one, that's for sure. So I'm
Speaker 2: definitely gonna go with that, Joe. Now, Philly Cleveland in
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference finals, the same way the Browns and
Speaker 2: there still is going to be in then AFC Championship.
Speaker 2: So if I'm going to watch and both, whoever plays
Speaker 2: better deserves some one, I'm room for both. Oh it's
Speaker 2: good bad Oh it's good ball, good ball.
Speaker 1: He mister mister Gilbert, Remember, he wants to see whoever
Speaker 1: plays best win. He don't want to see your Cleveland
Speaker 1: Cavaliers win that he says he's from the land of
Speaker 1: your fans. That say, joe Us Broun gets out the league.
Speaker 2: Was Broun leaves the league? We only have Broun a
Speaker 2: little bit longer. You don't want Cleveland Brown to have
Speaker 2: him leaves the league? All calves, all calves, that's the
Speaker 2: squad you're talking about.
Speaker 1: So many brown done went to what ten of them?
Speaker 1: He got three of them before him something like that.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? That's it, Sherid Wealth what
Speaker 1: you're talking about?
Speaker 2: Man? Listen, you told me we can't get one because
Speaker 2: we already got six.
Speaker 1: Cleveland need one before before before Pittsburgh getting number Huh.
Speaker 2: Talking about the Browns. See now where you're talking about
Speaker 2: the calves. Broun already went and delivered one for the Calves.
Speaker 2: So that's so why can't they get one without him?
Speaker 2: You don't want them to. You don't want to see
Speaker 2: them succeed. You see what you see what it is.
Speaker 2: I was rooting for them, brust the Knicks with all
Speaker 2: I had, and we got swept and I was still
Speaker 2: standing out there on my tam Let's go Calves, Let's
Speaker 2: go Calves.
Speaker 1: Okay, but again, as I said, Philly, Cleveland, the winner
Speaker 1: wins a championship.
Speaker 2: Who you want to win? I just want the best
Speaker 2: team to win. Man. Listen, man, y'all know what Joe is. Man.
Speaker 2: For the next two seasons, there's thirty one other team
Speaker 2: name any other team? Okay, So here, so you went
Speaker 2: brin Bron. You were Bron. So Philly, go win the championship. Right.
Speaker 2: I did not say that. I'm asking you there. It
Speaker 2: could happen. Philly, go win the championship. Man, They're gonna
Speaker 2: be They're gonna be in the Eastern Conference finals for
Speaker 2: sup Hmmm.
Speaker 1: It's is crazy, Joe, this is crazy. I ain't never
Speaker 1: seen I ain't never seen nothing like this thing in
Speaker 1: my life.
Speaker 2: Joe.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to be from the land, the city that
Speaker 1: picks you number one, You hoping and wishing against and
Speaker 1: praying against them.
Speaker 2: You ain't even got it even.
Speaker 1: You can't even stand on two toes and be like yo,
Speaker 1: not even two toes and say I would like to
Speaker 1: see Cleveland win against Bron because I'm from the Land.
Speaker 1: I went there, I was part of That's all me.
Speaker 1: Mister Gilbert, he helps me. He gives me I'm court sided.
Speaker 1: He don't pick me up and throw me in the
Speaker 1: back row. But you can't even do that.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, Debo. I can't let that
Speaker 2: sway my visual of what I've been seeing going on
Speaker 2: the calves. That's off season. We didn't make any changes
Speaker 2: and we got swept by the next Last year.
Speaker 1: I didn't say who could win. I said who would
Speaker 1: you want to win?
Speaker 2: Joe? I would want I would want who would you
Speaker 2: want to win in that situation.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Joe, I can answer every situation.
Speaker 1: If you put the Pittsburgh Steelers in it against I
Speaker 1: don't care who it is other than Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: I want Pittsburgh. What about it? What about if? What
Speaker 2: about if?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What about if Bickler Bow was coaching the other team?
Speaker 1: Coaching the other team? Yes, he was the Titans. All right,
Speaker 1: damn right, it's still us, Okay, all right.
Speaker 2: Love a man to death. It's just you know what,
Speaker 2: it's different because it's basketball too. I didn't play. I
Speaker 2: didn't I didn't play. And it's Brons, it's Broun, it's Lebron,
Speaker 2: it's my favorite player. Sue me.
Speaker 1: God, you're gonna get sued in a minute. When you
Speaker 1: go to go over there and get them tickets. You're
Speaker 1: gonna feel like the price that he's giving everybody else.
Speaker 2: I got fellow Bron fans like me that know what
Speaker 2: I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Who in the chat know what Joe talking about?
Speaker 2: Anybody? Anybody in chat know what you're talking about. Bro?
Speaker 2: Nobody they do? They said, no, they do, it's Bron.
Speaker 1: Then the laying Then mister Gilbert, Wow, that's what they're.
Speaker 2: Saying in there like that. Man, don't do do dang,
Speaker 2: you're putting it.
Speaker 1: Hey, listen, I'm just I'm just telling you that's what
Speaker 1: they're saying. I'm not saying this. I'm saying what's being said.
Speaker 1: I'm saying what you're doing. Like they say, I can
Speaker 1: show you better than.
Speaker 2: I can tell you. You're showing me what it is. You're
Speaker 2: putting me in a sticky situation.
Speaker 1: I ain't putting you in a sticky situation. Man, I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm just putting you in That's what it is.
Speaker 2: It's not even sticky. It's not even sticky. It's not
Speaker 2: even stick it's clean and cut.
Speaker 1: You asked me about bowl the man I credit for
Speaker 1: my career. If it's no Dickular Bowl, there's no James
Speaker 1: Harrison like all that. And if they got Dicklar Bowl
Speaker 1: up against the Pittsburgh Stillness, it's the Pittsburgh still.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you feel the same way. Okay, that's
Speaker 2: why it's still That's why it's meet with the Browns.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be. It's gonna be the Browns.
Speaker 3: DN, What what about the Calves. It's just it ain't
Speaker 3: gonna be the calvesis you ain't got you ain't got
Speaker 3: that much love for the Calves.
Speaker 2: That's that's what I was. You don't. Lebrons has a
Speaker 2: short amount of time still left to play in the league.
Speaker 2: Lebron not played a hundred years. Man, the Calves are
Speaker 2: gonna still be existing way after Lebron James is done.
Speaker 2: So for him to still be able to play for
Speaker 2: two more years, I'm gonna give him. That's my man.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch him. I'm embracing what he got because
Speaker 2: the cast I could be a cast thing when Lebron's coming.
Speaker 2: Kyriees came, we got Donovan Mitchell, we got James Harden. Hey, listen, listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 1: I can go ahead and root for somebody. I can
Speaker 1: want to see them do great and do good. I
Speaker 1: can hope that they do great and do good. They
Speaker 1: could do great and do good. But I don't want
Speaker 1: you to do so great and so good that you
Speaker 1: beat my.
Speaker 2: Team, Joe.
Speaker 1: I want to see you shine, but not the dispense
Speaker 1: of a loss. I'd rather see Dick Lebow go out
Speaker 1: there and shut us out and the kickoff and and
Speaker 1: punt return give up two touchdowns.
Speaker 2: Okay, but we got to win, Joe, I got I
Speaker 2: hate I Hey, hey, it's just here. Listen here, man,
Speaker 2: Let's go on here and talk about this still a thing.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: We reported the camp over here. What was that on Tuesday?
Speaker 2: Uh? We got three.
Speaker 1: We got three on the on the on the pup list,
Speaker 1: ol Nephew, Joey Porter, junr he on he on the public.
Speaker 2: Hey, my my man, back flared up during condition after condition.
Speaker 1: Hey, I think I know what could solve that that
Speaker 1: backflare and Jalen he Uh, I guess he had a
Speaker 1: little knee issue from mini camp. That's that's still going around.
Speaker 1: And what's that a seventh round pick?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Dante Kent dB Yeah, that's what it's looking like right now. Listen, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what's going on. They
Speaker 1: said this a couple of weeks on jailen, so I
Speaker 1: think he'd be all right. They're saying, it's not a
Speaker 1: big deal, just time, but little peasy. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that. I think I think, you know, help
Speaker 1: us back out a little bit, if you know, if
Speaker 1: things was getting get a little better, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If you get that, get them numbers right, I think
Speaker 1: my man back might fast starts to start feeling a
Speaker 1: little better, you know.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: The big news, though, the great news we got is
Speaker 1: Braderick Jones is back, so after eight months, eight months
Speaker 1: after sustaining a shocking season ending neck injury, offensive tackle
Speaker 1: draw Bradick Jones took the field at Saint Vincen's many
Speaker 1: at Saint Vincen's camp. After that he was medically cleared
Speaker 1: for practice. I guess right now they're working him and
Speaker 1: with the two's at the left and right tackle. I
Speaker 1: guess from the last two practices that we had, and
Speaker 1: they see himfully being able to get back to a
Speaker 1: starter level.
Speaker 2: Joe. That is a great thing.
Speaker 1: But one hundred percent clear and one hundred percent It's
Speaker 1: two different things where.
Speaker 2: You it's great news, you know, great news because you
Speaker 2: never know. Like when we said when we talked about
Speaker 2: the Net and I saw though Samuel our corner, our corner,
Speaker 2: Samuel Jr. Yea, he had the same surgery and they
Speaker 2: had the same agent. So we ended up meeting with
Speaker 2: him and Sante Samue Jr. Is out there flying around,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, looking good. So it's just
Speaker 2: giving me hope that, you know, Roger, he's trying. And
Speaker 2: what I realized and what I loved about his interview
Speaker 2: though Debo is he understands the realization of the business
Speaker 2: of the gun, understands that there's a reason why like
Speaker 2: it was he was in it with Danny, with with
Speaker 2: Dan Moore. You know what I'm saying, like just being
Speaker 2: able to see the league for what it is, knowing
Speaker 2: like they're not just throwing you out, but you got
Speaker 2: to show, you know what I'm saying, because anybody can
Speaker 2: get hurt at any minute, and so I'm just loving
Speaker 2: that he's being able to be back out there. He's
Speaker 2: accepted to the fact that he's not taking any hard
Speaker 2: feelings like, oh no, like why would they not accept
Speaker 2: my fifth year option. It's a business. He understands he
Speaker 2: got hurt. There's a lot of this big investment in there,
Speaker 2: so you just got to be able to go out
Speaker 2: there improve that you can still be able to play
Speaker 2: at a starting caliber. So I think his mindset just
Speaker 2: him trying to knowing that I gotta get him being
Speaker 2: three hundred pounds and he says he got to put
Speaker 2: up a couple more fifteen more pounds because he wasn't
Speaker 2: able to do anything for like three months. So just
Speaker 2: his mindset, his mental him understanding what's going on, the
Speaker 2: depth of the line, us being able to have lineman
Speaker 2: because people are going to get hurt. It's a very
Speaker 2: long season. So being able to know, like him being
Speaker 2: able to get Max reps, being able to get other
Speaker 2: guys reps in different positions, and just as chuggling along,
Speaker 2: just knowing that he had that mindset where he knows
Speaker 2: that he wants to go out there, he knows that
Speaker 2: he can start. McCarthy spoke on him like he's a
Speaker 2: starting caliber dude. But just knowing that I'm happy that
Speaker 2: he's getting cleared. He's able to get onto the field,
Speaker 2: so we're just gonna be able to watch his progreat
Speaker 2: just as he goes right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna, you know, obviously working back into it
Speaker 1: slow so he don't get no setbacks. That's the whole reason,
Speaker 1: you know, they have a little bit of a rotation
Speaker 1: going there. Also, as we talked about, I want to
Speaker 1: mess up, I'm trying not to, Hannah. Sure, that's a
Speaker 1: say Maxie, Hannah.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 1: They actually started to work him in with some of
Speaker 1: the first teams, so he's getting some first team reps
Speaker 1: in there too. And then basically the you know, the
Speaker 1: opening lineup for the offense was what it was, you know,
Speaker 1: through OTAs and Mini Camp. I think it's uh Troy
Speaker 1: and it's Isaac Zach, uh Mason and uh Cook on
Speaker 1: the other side. So yeah, I don't I'm trying to
Speaker 1: tell you man, I think I think it will gonna
Speaker 1: be good. I'm feeling I'm feeling real good long as
Speaker 1: he's able to work back, you know, and and it's
Speaker 1: no setbacks, you know, I feel like I feel like
Speaker 1: we're gonna be real good. I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see, We'll see, We'll see another
Speaker 1: big thing I think people are talking about is I
Speaker 1: guess Mike McCarthy said it will be no live tackling
Speaker 1: like they saying like no tackling, and like listen, what
Speaker 1: y'all got to understand is you don't actually need to
Speaker 1: tackle somebody to the ground. When you say live, that
Speaker 1: means I'm rapping you down to the ground and were.
Speaker 2: Going for a goal.
Speaker 1: What we do a lot is third up, hit, wrap, release,
Speaker 1: so you break down, you hit, you wrap, your release,
Speaker 1: and you let them continue to run. You're just not
Speaker 1: taking people to the ground. They not actually not go
Speaker 1: do any like tackling of any sort.
Speaker 2: That just don't make no sense. Like, Joe, what.
Speaker 1: Did you take from it? Because they're like, yo, they're
Speaker 1: not tackling.
Speaker 2: I think it's a lot of it. Like you said too,
Speaker 2: it's the safety. They're not going to be doing the
Speaker 2: tackling to the ground because a lot of that when
Speaker 2: we would do tackling to the ground, it was the
Speaker 2: nine on sevens. It's inside people are rolling up on
Speaker 2: each other every single time that happens. So when you
Speaker 2: get into the position where it's just now thudding up,
Speaker 2: getting yourself into that position, basically if you don't you
Speaker 2: have to stop the mass for momentum. You have to
Speaker 2: be you got to put pads on pads, so there's
Speaker 2: like you're not just diving around on people's legs and
Speaker 2: trying to do that. So I think thud up and
Speaker 2: thudding thud doing thud drills is the same thing. Is
Speaker 2: making sure that you can get into that position, make
Speaker 2: sure you actually put them, make sure you stop therefore
Speaker 2: progress and then you letting them go for pursuit and
Speaker 2: all of that. So most of the time when we're
Speaker 2: saying people are doing live tackling, it's not for that
Speaker 2: long of the practice. It's a period right place, and
Speaker 2: dudes are getting hurt three four dudes in those seven plays.
Speaker 2: So it's like, how about we just really just thub
Speaker 2: people up getting to the right positions, because sometimes it's
Speaker 2: not helping us, it's more than it's hurting us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think thudding up actually gets you
Speaker 1: in a better position to be able to make more
Speaker 1: secure and tackles because now you have to get in there,
Speaker 1: you have to bend down, you have to put your
Speaker 1: head exactly where it should be in hitting rap.
Speaker 2: It's no longer let me get there and die at it.
Speaker 1: No, Like, I gotta be ready to put that force
Speaker 1: into him so I can stop his momentum and and
Speaker 1: and drive him back and then wrap up so I
Speaker 1: can secure it so he can't spin out of that tackle.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm I don't. I don't trip on that.
Speaker 2: But it was harder for the DBS because I'm like,
Speaker 2: when I see that's legs, that's what this is, what
Speaker 2: this is. When I go do my part, why shoot
Speaker 2: his legs out of Like, nah, Joe, you got to
Speaker 2: spare him up. Stop it. Boom And I'm getting embraced.
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, boom, Donald Still, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So it's you got to get yourself in that position
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, I guess they want that. Aaron Rodgers again,
Speaker 1: asking him, I guess. He dismissed any idea that he
Speaker 1: might decide to come back for another season.
Speaker 2: He said, no, zero debate zero.
Speaker 1: Uh. He said, I thought last year might be it,
Speaker 1: and then Mike got hired, talked to my wife and
Speaker 1: she said, you can do another year. I said, well,
Speaker 1: we'll see if it works out. And then it kind
Speaker 1: of all came together. DK was up before him, though,
Speaker 1: and DK was like, you know what, it's early in
Speaker 1: the year. You know, it's too early to make a decision.
Speaker 1: You know, he might not even get He was like,
Speaker 1: he might not even get banged up. No, he said,
Speaker 1: he said, he might not even get hit or touched, like,
Speaker 1: you know, like he might.
Speaker 4: Not get No, it ain't going no, no, no, no, no, no, no, bro, Look,
Speaker 4: he might not even get hit or touch cover DK man,
Speaker 4: stop that man talking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm loving a I'm loving what A Rod is saying. No,
Speaker 2: no point for debate. This year, he was already kind
Speaker 2: of trying to figure out if he wanted to stay.
Speaker 2: So it's final Swan song. You got your coach out here,
Speaker 2: you got your receivers, y'all running back you in DK fresh.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Last year was quick. You
Speaker 2: didn't really know each other, get to know each other
Speaker 2: really well, and now let's say they rooming together again.
Speaker 2: They said, yeah, let's go, let's go, and A Rod
Speaker 2: for sure, because it's all of that off season stuff
Speaker 2: where you can do what you want to do, but
Speaker 2: it gets annoying to where everybody's like, what's everybody gonna do?
Speaker 2: It's gonna co back it's gonna stay, it's gonna go,
Speaker 2: it's gonna come, it's gonna be if you have your time.
Speaker 2: Soon as the season ends, you get the chill, you
Speaker 2: get your time to be able to make those decisions.
Speaker 2: But knowing now, like as soon as the season's over,
Speaker 2: guys like all of that, that's a lot of noise,
Speaker 2: and he was doing it for the last two years,
Speaker 2: so I can only imagine just people constantly being on
Speaker 2: your head and then just being able to be like,
Speaker 2: this is my final season. I'm about to go give
Speaker 2: it my all. I'm ready for it. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: like it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I'm trying to tell you, man, listen,
Speaker 1: work worst case worst case for me thirteen four or's
Speaker 1: case for me Joe thirteenth worst case.
Speaker 2: I trying to tell you I'm not mad at the
Speaker 2: debo just because everybody's sleeping on the Steelers.
Speaker 1: For real, go on here, y'all going here sleep, slump them,
Speaker 1: slump sleep like sleeping beauty did m Prince ain't nowhere
Speaker 1: in sight.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to take you. I'm gonna cart the running,
Speaker 2: the practices, no a.
Speaker 1: No question, and let's man, let's go on up over
Speaker 1: here to your go up north a little bit man
Speaker 1: over here to Cleveland. Man. I guess y'all y'all actually,
Speaker 1: y'all quarterbacks and y'all rookies reported on a twenty third yep,
Speaker 1: and then y'all vetch reported Tuesday. So it wasn't even
Speaker 1: like a full team practice till Wednesday, Like, like why
Speaker 1: you got.
Speaker 2: Your quarterbacks up there reporting like six days early? Like Joe,
Speaker 2: what's going on?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: Like? White? Quarterback is the most important position on the team,
Speaker 2: and we had some young quarterbacks, and we got a
Speaker 2: quarterback that's coming off some injuries and had some stuff
Speaker 2: to prove by making it with the big contract, and
Speaker 2: they're trying to put their best foot forward. I love it.
Speaker 2: Get in their quarterbacks. You should not leave. That's why
Speaker 2: you make sixty five million dollars a year. This is
Speaker 2: not a on season, off season job. I'm un get
Speaker 2: your ass in there. I need you to know not
Speaker 2: only what the quarterback does, you gotta know what all
Speaker 2: the linemen do. You gotta know what all the receivers do.
Speaker 2: You gotta know what the running backs do. And then
Speaker 2: the checks. You need to know all of the checks.
Speaker 2: And after you do that, now the defenses, what are
Speaker 2: they doing? How do you recognize what these checks are?
Speaker 2: It's a whole lot more that quarterbacks have to deal
Speaker 2: with than receivers, then running backs, the linemen and cornerbacks.
Speaker 2: Cover two always gonna be coup to come four gonna
Speaker 2: be cover four. Cover three is gonna be covered three.
Speaker 2: So as soon as I learn all of my jobs
Speaker 2: and be throwing blitzes and all of that stuff, but
Speaker 2: as a corner I got to still cover three. There's
Speaker 2: gonna be somebody replacing my job unless I blitz. There's
Speaker 2: only certain things that can happen. So then I start
Speaker 2: studying offense route concepts, and that's you've become so much smarter.
Speaker 2: And that's why older quarterbacks they don't have to be fast.
Speaker 2: You just gotta know what You gotta know what's going on,
Speaker 2: like you are walking out through your process information. And
Speaker 2: that's how when corners get better, you don't. The defenses
Speaker 2: don't change. They're not gonna invent like really new plays.
Speaker 2: Seven routes, post routes, slant routes, fade routes. All of
Speaker 2: the routes are the same routes. The route tree has
Speaker 2: been the route tree. So once you start learning the game,
Speaker 2: and you start learning what you got to do as
Speaker 2: a quarterback. You got to learn with the offensive line
Speaker 2: and the receivers, the running backs. You learn what the
Speaker 2: defense is doing. Why are they doing this? You start
Speaker 2: getting more comfortable, and the more comfortable you get, the
Speaker 2: slow they say, Oh, the game started slowing down for
Speaker 2: me around year three. Games starts slowing down for me
Speaker 2: around here four. The quicker, you can learn what's going on,
Speaker 2: and you got your job under control. I know what
Speaker 2: I'm doing, I know what checks I gotta make. Then
Speaker 2: you start going against the defense. Then you start making them.
Speaker 2: You start manipulating people to go to where you want
Speaker 2: them to go. So with the quarterbacks coming in, they're young,
Speaker 2: they have stuff to prove tole Monkett is like this, y'all,
Speaker 2: we don't have a We have a quarterback on the
Speaker 2: team that's making forty five million dollars a year, but
Speaker 2: we don't have a franchise quarterback in this building right
Speaker 2: now that I feel like that can prove us of
Speaker 2: the nose. What he got going on. Everything is everybody
Speaker 2: in here can be taught. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Don't think you're too smart. And you know too much. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: I mean I was under the assumption he believed he
Speaker 2: had a possible two franchise. But that's look, he's a
Speaker 2: pop possible two franchise, but haven't played like it in
Speaker 2: the last three years. Having put it on tape last season,
Speaker 2: like you coming in off of All Pro Pro Bowl,
Speaker 2: like de offensive Player of the Year season, Like no, no, no,
Speaker 2: that all y'all got to come in here and can't
Speaker 2: you can't tell me that you know something yet because
Speaker 2: what I've seen last year, what I've been looking at,
Speaker 2: ain't gonna get the job done, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So come in here six days early with the rookies
Speaker 2: and watch, let's get this install. And when we when
Speaker 2: the rest of the team come, we're gonna redo the install. Quarterback. Now,
Speaker 2: y'all just know y'all are learning it, you're not learning it.
Speaker 1: You can give you an extra six days. I understand
Speaker 1: what you're saying, Joe, to do some more evaluation.
Speaker 2: You try to blow my boys, and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: We need that. I understand, Yoe. I understand. You know,
Speaker 2: I just got to give you hell. You know, I
Speaker 2: just that's just that's just that's just what I do.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I got to do a
Speaker 2: little something here and now, and it looked like y'all
Speaker 2: pupp list it. Damn, y ain't got no puppet everybody
Speaker 2: out there, everybody out there, Yeah, now that go boys
Speaker 2: out there because you know, because you know why, because
Speaker 2: you know why? Why is that Joe? Because them boys
Speaker 2: out there paying folks?
Speaker 1: Huh like that Joe Joe? That Yeah, y'all, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie. So y'all trying to make it tough, you know,
Speaker 1: y'all trying to make it tough on us. Y'all't have
Speaker 1: to do that. First off, y'all gay they'll pick three year,
Speaker 1: forty eight million. We're thirty six guaranteed, okay.
Speaker 2: And then right.
Speaker 1: Before y'all gave him that, y'all ended up giving Gizell Ward.
Speaker 2: This is the problem.
Speaker 1: You gave that man two year extension for sixty two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: fifty two guaranteed.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, deservedly. So we're doing the right thing. We're
Speaker 2: trying to build. We got he damn near forty Joe
Speaker 2: behind Denzel Ward is twenty nine years old. He's twenty
Speaker 2: nine years old. Has only played eight years in the league.
Speaker 2: He's basically signed that two year extension. Denzel Ward has
Speaker 2: done what I call a masterclass. The only thing that
Speaker 2: they could give a knock about Denzel Ward is his injuries.
Speaker 2: He's had some concussions, he has some soft tissues, and
Speaker 2: then during COVID he had four games that he missed
Speaker 2: for COVID. But when Denzel Award is on the football field,
Speaker 2: he's a All Pro every time. His technique, his tackling,
Speaker 2: his smarts, his ball skills. So he's been doing nothing,
Speaker 2: and you know what Denzel Ward does. He stays out
Speaker 2: the way. You don't hear anything about Denzel Ward besides
Speaker 2: him coming to work and doing his job. Only thing.
Speaker 2: It's like he might be a little injury prone, but
Speaker 2: that's you can't Some of the stuff you can't help.
Speaker 2: He had a couple of cushions and a couple of
Speaker 2: soft tissues. But when I look at Denzel, you can
Speaker 2: help a concussion. Get your next stroom man, listen, I
Speaker 2: hear you, but he got He's been out there for
Speaker 2: eight seasons. He's had five Pro Bowls, he's been All
Speaker 2: Pro three times, and he's been nothing. But he stays
Speaker 2: out the way. So he's bawling, he's staying out the way,
Speaker 2: and this is what you do. He signed a five year,
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollar contract. He's been out playing that contract.
Speaker 2: So when he gives them, when he gives him this extension,
Speaker 2: he has two years left on his deal. This is
Speaker 2: just adding two more years. So now they got Denzel
Speaker 2: for a four year ninety four million dollars. That's averaging
Speaker 2: now for the next four years at twenty three million
Speaker 2: dollars for him, and the team looks good because he
Speaker 2: gets some raise, but now they get he gets two
Speaker 2: more years of guaranteed money. He had no more guaranteed
Speaker 2: money on his last contract, and it's a bump up
Speaker 2: for him and the team's good. And he gets two
Speaker 2: more years guaranteed and then if he has two more
Speaker 2: years of non guaranteed money, making around twenty two million
Speaker 2: dollars a year. So it works out for Denzel, it
Speaker 2: works out for the Browns. You keep a amazing player
Speaker 2: that's still playing at a high level with just a
Speaker 2: two year extension, so they gonna have him until he's
Speaker 2: thirty three years old. And I'm loving it for the Browns.
Speaker 2: They did it the right way. Denzel did it the
Speaker 2: right way, and he's from straight from when I left there.
Speaker 2: They drafted Denzel Ward and he then took it and
Speaker 2: ran with it. Yeah, you're making a tough once over
Speaker 2: here man, Like that'st that was smart.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Had two more years left. Y'all could have waited till
Speaker 2: next year to do that. They just did. They did.
Speaker 2: You could y'all know what y'allout of there? And they
Speaker 2: and then so they left some They.
Speaker 1: Had some bread left on the table, now, huh the
Speaker 1: guy yeah, okay, okay, okay, Yeah, I had a visitor though,
Speaker 1: Coach Prime. Man, Coach Prime came up. Brother, I guess
Speaker 1: he was up there yesterday, and uh, he was talking.
Speaker 2: To the coach.
Speaker 1: He gave him some insight, they said, you know, gave
Speaker 1: some gave him some insight. Here's the crazy thing, man,
Speaker 1: your guy Todd Monkin. When they asked him, he was like,
Speaker 1: it was really cool. Deon Sanders, are you kidding me
Speaker 1: to get that? He's just a Door's dad. I mean,
Speaker 1: first of all, he did an unbelievable job with Door.
Speaker 1: A great kid and obviously an elite football player, hell
Speaker 1: baseball player, and then as a coach, I mean, wow,
Speaker 1: everything that he's achieved, that that was awesome. Then he
Speaker 1: went on to say he gave him a little bit
Speaker 1: of insight, but we were up against it. The general manager,
Speaker 1: Andrew Barry was next. It was next, so I had
Speaker 1: to give him up to Andrew. So there was some
Speaker 1: back and forth has to be in about Shador in
Speaker 1: terms of how he processes personal wise and I think
Speaker 1: competitive wise.
Speaker 2: He got.
Speaker 1: He got into it at the end in terms of
Speaker 1: what makes him tick, which was good. It was it
Speaker 1: was all good. But we've seen most of that, most
Speaker 1: of what he said we've been able to see.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Worry now, we haven't gotten to the games yet. That's
Speaker 1: a different animal.
Speaker 2: But at this point what.
Speaker 1: He talked about, I would have said, no, that's how
Speaker 1: we've seen it. That sounded like to me, what sounded like,
Speaker 1: do you do bo? It sounds like you don't start
Speaker 1: a quarterback. I'm just saying, hey, that's solid. Hey it
Speaker 1: sounds like she don't start and call it back. But
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna again. That's you know, you know me,
Speaker 1: that's just me. That's just me because I you know,
Speaker 1: I do what I do. But when they asked him
Speaker 1: about the you know, the quarterback competition. He said this
Speaker 1: right here. We got we got it right here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nothing's really changed. We anticipate alternating. First of all four
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are going to compete. They all won't get equal reps. Obviously,
Speaker 1: we will alternate, just like we did in the spring. Uh,
Speaker 1: Deshaun and Shador with the ones. The easiest way for
Speaker 1: me to say that, and it still won't stop you
Speaker 1: from asking, not you particularly better? May in general is
Speaker 1: the first game, and we're gonna have to have a
Speaker 1: start of the first game, right, I mean, ultimately, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna decide who the starter is.
Speaker 5: They decide by their play.
Speaker 2: Their play decides who the starter is. I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't have any preconceived notions of how they've played
Speaker 5: in the past or how they're gonna play. I only
Speaker 5: can with my eyes. Judge and and guys got to
Speaker 5: play well around them. I think we've shored up some
Speaker 5: things up front. We've added some weapons on the perimeter,
Speaker 5: so I think that's gonna help. But they'll decide who plays.
Speaker 5: I I don't decide who plays. The players decide who plays.
Speaker 2: No, No, what you what? What you? What you? What
Speaker 2: you take from that?
Speaker 1: You know me. I like to read them between lines,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I just I like to read
Speaker 1: the lines. I've just read the lines there like that
Speaker 1: was just that was the lines.
Speaker 2: That was where he see.
Speaker 1: So I'm just where, where do you see? Who do
Speaker 1: you see being the starting quarterback? I'm just going off
Speaker 1: of I don't even know what happened. I know they
Speaker 1: was keeping the tracker going to who was throwing picks,
Speaker 1: who was throwing who was making completions? And your boy
Speaker 1: was leading in the pit category and was leading in
Speaker 1: the completion category and in the touchdown category. So I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to figure out where you see where you
Speaker 1: at with this?
Speaker 2: First and foremost, the first thing was when Dion Sanders arrived.
Speaker 2: I respect and love that Todd Monkin is acting like
Speaker 2: a human being like that is Deon Sanders. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, is respecting his career, that it is
Speaker 2: the father of Shador. You know what I'm saying, Just
Speaker 2: not trying to act like being submissive of Deon, because
Speaker 2: that's when people like you don't have to be all impressed.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, Deon Sanders was a coach.
Speaker 2: He did coach his son, he did coach. It's a
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame football player in the hell and then
Speaker 2: was the coach of his son in college football and
Speaker 2: did good at Colorado. So just from the respect fact that,
Speaker 2: I just love the way that he was being a
Speaker 2: human being and was like, damn, that is Deon Sanders. Secondly,
Speaker 2: when he talks about both of them are going to
Speaker 2: be getting reps, I think that Shador Sanders is going
Speaker 2: to properly win the job through this, through through uh
Speaker 2: through training camp. I think that Todd Monkin is being
Speaker 2: honest where this is the thing. If it was up
Speaker 2: to the coach, then I think he wants to put
Speaker 2: the best player out there to play. If is it
Speaker 2: going to be someone that goes over his head. Is
Speaker 2: ownership going to step in and say, hey, look we're
Speaker 2: paying this man this money. And I think that he
Speaker 2: should be the first one to go out there. I
Speaker 2: don't know, you know what I'm saying. So if it's
Speaker 2: Todd Monkin saying this from a legitimate space where boom,
Speaker 2: best player is going to best best quarterback is going
Speaker 2: to take the job, We're going to have them equal reps.
Speaker 2: We're going to see what DeShawn looks like we're going
Speaker 2: to see what Uh, we're gonna see what shad Door
Speaker 2: looks like. We're going to go into preseason, and these
Speaker 2: reps are legitimately going to be what makes it happen. Uh,
Speaker 2: does he picks? Is he looking people off? Does he
Speaker 2: know how to run the offense? Who's making who's making
Speaker 2: our offense look like it's a professional offense. So I
Speaker 2: think that your Door is gonna win the job. But
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's gonna be the powers that
Speaker 2: be that might step in and be like, look he's
Speaker 2: getting that bread. We're still paying them, So I would
Speaker 2: want him to start. That's so if it's close, who
Speaker 2: do you think starts? If it's close, I would want
Speaker 2: I would want your door.
Speaker 1: I got sixty one a half dozen the other who
Speaker 1: who that's what they're looking at like that.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna be close, like that just
Speaker 2: started off camp be close? Yeah, I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: think it's will be close. But if it's close for me,
Speaker 2: I'm sure I just got to go with the door.
Speaker 1: He's younger, he's gonna have more time to improve and
Speaker 1: and and learn, learning through the process. But I'm just
Speaker 1: saying just from how complimentary he was a coach Prime.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, yo, just feel like, hey, we can't
Speaker 1: we can't go no other way. The pedigree tell me
Speaker 1: I gotta go that way back.
Speaker 2: Just you know, just just from the conversation Joe, I'm
Speaker 2: I think that when Tom Munker says that, I mean
Speaker 2: definitely him respecting coach crime. But it's gonna be on
Speaker 2: the football field, I'm not. I think that's your door
Speaker 2: if it's by if it's a real competition and the
Speaker 2: coaches know and the players know, they're gonna see. There's
Speaker 2: gonna be ways when we're like this, now somebody's playing
Speaker 2: he's playing better than the other quarterback. This like we say,
Speaker 2: even I don't know where to give it. I think
Speaker 2: somebody's gonna I think she is gonna have to show
Speaker 2: that he looks winning outright outright. I would. I would Alright,
Speaker 2: that's a big bird. Alright.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, I can look and just say all right,
Speaker 1: it's done, Like right now, just looking at what I
Speaker 1: was seeing from how they were tracking all the stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it a it's a no brainer, like right now, like
Speaker 1: the first few days of practice, it is a no
Speaker 1: brain unless you know, uh and unless he just you know,
Speaker 1: he got he got unless uh uh Wathington got to
Speaker 1: warm up for the first couple of days and then
Speaker 1: you know he come through.
Speaker 2: But that that ain't what his number has been showing.
Speaker 1: That ain't what he's been showing the least whatever time
Speaker 1: it was that he was healthy before he ended up
Speaker 1: get hurt.
Speaker 2: But like you said, he go let the preseason, maybe.
Speaker 1: He get into the what if he getting too the
Speaker 1: game and it just strike.
Speaker 2: Out, he just like go crazy, shud.
Speaker 1: Getting the game and he you know, he played good,
Speaker 1: but what he getting there.
Speaker 2: And he just go crazy? What what you go do?
Speaker 1: Then you only got three preseason games. Now remember he
Speaker 1: strike out on the first two. You know you ain't
Speaker 1: gonna play your starter whoever whoever you're looking at starting
Speaker 1: for for the third game because you're worried about him
Speaker 1: getting hurt.
Speaker 2: It's it's gonna be more than these games too, d BO.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you leading up to you know, a training
Speaker 2: game when it's going one best ones to situational Football's
Speaker 2: like when we got a two minute drills, like all
Speaker 2: of this practice, real practice reps, and when we leave
Speaker 2: that practice, fill in the Trader Cup and you go
Speaker 2: to that meeting room and you're watching tape, there's going
Speaker 2: to be real, what are you looking at here? Where
Speaker 2: are these balls going? So I think that there's going
Speaker 2: to be the coaches are legitimately like watching these tastes,
Speaker 2: watching all these seven on sevens, watching all of these
Speaker 2: one on ones, watching all the throws, watching the way
Speaker 2: that they manage the offense, watching the way they get
Speaker 2: in and out of the huddle, of just being like,
Speaker 2: how is this going to look? So I think if
Speaker 2: they're in a real competition, it's going to be coaches
Speaker 2: putting them in that film that we're not in. We're
Speaker 2: going to see the priests when they get to the
Speaker 2: preseason game, it's gonna be like, all right, show us
Speaker 2: what you got. But I think the coach is going
Speaker 2: to have a decision, you know what I'm saying, by
Speaker 2: second third week, by second week of training camp, by
Speaker 2: what does this do look on? That's gonna be fourteen practices, dude.
Speaker 1: I know he said going into the first preseason game,
Speaker 1: he's going to have to name and start, and I'm
Speaker 1: assuming he's saying that that would be his starter for
Speaker 1: the start of camp or whatever.
Speaker 2: It's going to be obviously, I would think so. But
Speaker 2: I don't think he gonna have one.
Speaker 1: I think he gonna be like, well, we're going to
Speaker 1: start this person this game and see how it goes,
Speaker 1: and then.
Speaker 2: We're gonna start. Oh no, No, he's not going like that.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you, man, I really feel like
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna be.
Speaker 2: Man, He's not going like that. I'm just I'm just
Speaker 2: telling you, man, I gotta I got it, itch Man,
Speaker 2: I got it. Itch. I feel like I feel like
Speaker 2: that's that's just that's just I feel like, debo. Once
Speaker 2: you get a quarterback the starting job, how many games
Speaker 2: it's gonna be what like at least four five games minimum?
Speaker 2: And if you pull them after five and go for
Speaker 2: another quarterback, you can't.
Speaker 1: Put I'm saying the first preseason game, I don't think
Speaker 1: that starting quarterback is going to be a starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna I think it's going to be
Speaker 1: he's going to start this one, and then so and so,
Speaker 1: and then he'll start the next one, and then so
Speaker 1: and so will rotating. I don't think they go pick
Speaker 1: one until after the second game. That's what I'm saying
Speaker 2: Well, I can feel that