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Speaker 1: Welcome to Lakers Tonight, presented by fan Duel. Here on

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Speaker 1: the volume, I am Jason timp Happy Saturday, everybody. I

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Speaker 1: hope you all had a great week. I hope you're

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Speaker 1: excited to talk some basketball. We finally got a Lakers

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Speaker 1: win to talk about in a good Lakers win. We

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Speaker 1: I think I was more irritated after that one than

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Speaker 1: it had been after many of these losses. They played

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Speaker 1: a nearly perfect defensive overtime, at least while the game

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Speaker 1: Lots to be frustrated about. We're gonna get to all

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Speaker 1: of that. These slows starts are a huge problem this team.

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Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook continues to be almost a completely nonsensical basketball fit.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to all of that. But I wanted

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Speaker 1: be positive about tonight. You know what did I say

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Speaker 1: on Thursday? I said the Lakers need to go all

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Speaker 1: meant was cash in your assets, don't hang on to

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Speaker 1: bring in other good players. Why, I said, because Lebron

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Speaker 1: like this, in this particular season, where there is no

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Speaker 1: your confidence through things you can control. You can't control

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Speaker 1: making a jump shot you can't control. You know how

431
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: many bodies of defense throws at you. You can't control

432
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: if you accidentally dribble the ball off your foot, it's

433
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: not like you did the purpose you made him stak.

434
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Speaker 1: But what you can control is a box out. What

435
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: you can control is sitting in a defensive stance and

436
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: holding your man in front of you. What you can

437
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: control is sprinting back on defense. There were a bunch

438
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: of plays tonight where Russ missed around the rim and

439
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 1: took a second to just feel bad about himself. You

440
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: can't do that when you take a second to feel

441
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: bad about yourself, you compound the mistake. Now you didn't

442
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 1: just miss a layup, you blew a defensive responsibility. There

443
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: was a play in the second half where he missed

444
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: a left handed layup right at the front of the ring,

445
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: and then he took a second, dejected around the rim

446
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 1: and then jogged back. Stanley Johnson was guarding Evan Fournier

447
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: and Russell Westbrook ran into Stanley Johnson basically screening for

448
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: his own man. Evan Fournia gets into the lane, Russ

449
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: turns around and just watches him shoot a floater. I'm like,

450
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: you just made three mistakes when you could have been one.

451
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 1: You miss a layup. Dude, you did your job, you

452
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: put your head down, you went to the rid. You

453
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 1: tried to make a play. It didn't work out. That happens,

454
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: but you powdered, gave up a transition opportunity, then false

455
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: hustled your way into the lane, screened your own teammate

456
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Speaker 1: and gave up a wide open shot in the lane.

457
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: This is where that opportunity is lost. Russell Westbrook had

458
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Speaker 1: a quote about spending overtime on the bench quote. The

459
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Speaker 1: best part about this game is you win. Guys competed,

460
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Speaker 1: We won the game. That's all that matters. It's not

461
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: about me. It's not about what I'm doing, And you

462
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Speaker 1: know that's the right thing to say. I don't have

463
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Speaker 1: any issue per se with with the attitude. Like as

464
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Speaker 1: I've said often on the show, the Laker players this season,

465
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Speaker 1: in a catastrophe of the season, have said all the

466
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Speaker 1: right things. And in addition to that, I don't think

467
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Speaker 1: there's chemistry problems with guys disliking each other. We get

468
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: reports from like Washington and it's like the guys don't

469
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: like Spencer Dinwitty. We get, you know, reports from Boston

470
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: that you know, the star players are selfish. We get

471
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Speaker 1: reports from Brooklyn that James Harden is unhappy with this situation.

472
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Speaker 1: You're not getting any of that stuff with the Lakers.

473
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: This is a strictly basketball chemistry problem. The guys like

474
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Speaker 1: each other. It's just not working. The problem I have

475
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Speaker 1: with it, Russ is you're right, the team one, but

476
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Speaker 1: what are you doing as a player to address the situation.

477
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: Because the situation here is the team is not achieving

478
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Speaker 1: at the level they want and you are a part

479
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Speaker 1: of that problem. What are you doing to address it. Guys,

480
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: can you imagine if rus came out gang busters tonight

481
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Speaker 1: on both ends of the floor, just flying around trying

482
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Speaker 1: to make plays with his athleticism. Do you think would

483
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Speaker 1: be talking about him right now? Do you think I'd

484
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: be talking about him right now? Do you think they'd

485
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: be questioning them in the postgame presser about him getting

486
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: benched if he just came out and played hard tonight?

487
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: He didn't play hard. He also missed a bunch of shots.

488
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: He also had four turnovers in the first half. He

489
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: also smoked a bunch of layups at the rim. He

490
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: also missed two clutch free throws. He also failed to

491
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,719
Speaker 1: run back on defense and left open a shooter. But

492
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Speaker 1: you also just didn't play hard from the start of

493
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Speaker 1: the game. That's one thousand percent in your control. And

494
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you know, it's not about you and

495
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: your individual success statistically with the team, but it is

496
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Speaker 1: about you fulfilling your responsibilities. You do need to devote

497
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: effort and focus in that area. But yeah, I'm glad

498
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 1: the Lakers gotta win. You know, there is a lot

499
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Speaker 1: to build on here. Like I said, Lebron and a

500
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Speaker 1: d role players that play hard get yourself a perimeter

501
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: score that can score around them. That's what Malik m

502
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: has shown he can be. All the fundamental pieces are here.

503
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: They just need a little more depth so that they

504
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: don't have to dip in DeAndre door did DeAndre Jordan's

505
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: so that they don't have to play Avery Bradley and

506
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: and Trevor Reis a big minutes and they and they'll

507
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: be cooking with gas because Lebron literally just took two

508
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: weeks off with a swollen knee and came out looking fantastic.

509
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: And Anthony Davis looks as close to bubble a d

510
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: as we've seen. So all of that stuff is there.

511
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: They just have to figure out this Russ piece. And again,

512
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: if you think that he can figure that stuff out,

513
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: then keep him, because Russ figuring things out is a

514
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: better option than anything they can get in return. I'm

515
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: just saying I don't think he can figure it out.

516
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: I've seen too much. I've seen I've seen too many

517
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: examples of it this season. We've had too many rock bottoms,

518
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: so to speak, for him to not get the message

519
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: at this point. But that's all I had for the Lakers,

520
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: that it's a really quickly just take about five minutes

521
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: to talk about this. James Harden and Ben Simmons switch

522
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: a switch because I think it's very interesting. So James

523
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: Harden has mentally checked out on the season. I think

524
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: we can all agree on that. If you dig into

525
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: his scoring rate and his scoring efficiency, it's basically the

526
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Speaker 1: worst season of his career outside of his rookie year.

527
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: And while he's had some defensive success in recent seasons,

528
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: namely like two thousand eighteen two thousand nineteen in Houston,

529
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: he's regressed massively on the defensive end of the floor

530
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Speaker 1: this year. He's giving up straight line drives, he's just

531
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: swiping at guys, he's not hustling for anything. He's mentally

532
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: checked out on the team. And then we get a

533
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Speaker 1: report today basically confirming that, saying that he's not happy

534
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Speaker 1: with the situation because he came here to be part

535
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Speaker 1: of a three headed monster and now he's got a

536
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: part time co star and a guy who's hurt, and

537
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: now he's carrying the load again. So that was a

538
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: somewhat predictable outcome on that front. And usually for a

539
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: deal like this to make sense, you need two unhappy parties,

540
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: and we have the complete disaster of a situation in

541
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Speaker 1: Philly with everything going on with Ben Simmons, and I

542
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: do not need to get into that, but I actually

543
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: love this trade for both teams. You know, there is

544
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Speaker 1: a redundancy in the Kyrie James Harden Kevin Durant thing.

545
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: Now it worked. I think that formula worked and injuries

546
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: derailed it. To be clear, I think if even if

547
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Speaker 1: just James Harden had stayed healthy or just Kyrie Irving

548
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: had stayed healthy, I think they would have won the

549
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: title last year. So I believe in the formula. However,

550
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: there are lots of ways to win With Kevin Durant.

551
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: He's one of the best basketball players of all time.

552
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: And the Ben Simmons angle is actually super interesting to

553
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: me because Kevin Durant, even though he's never focused on

554
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Speaker 1: the defensive end for an extended stretch of his career.

555
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: There's a little bit in two thousand sixteen in the playoffs,

556
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Speaker 1: and a little bit when he was with the Warriors

557
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Speaker 1: in two thousand seventeen, but a lot of him not

558
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: caring too much about that end for the rest of

559
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Speaker 1: his career. But when he turns it on, the dude's

560
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: got Anthony Davis's physical tools, so of course he's capable

561
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: of all of that. Ben Simmons is very much in

562
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: the case for being the best defensive player in basketball.

563
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,479
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons was second and Defensive Player of the Year

564
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: voting last year. Ben Simmons, I've seen the guy give

565
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: major problems to Lebron James and completely shut down Damian Lillard.

566
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Speaker 1: Completely different archetypes of players. He can guard every position.

567
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: He's kind of like, you know, a lot of these

568
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: bigger wing defenders are more like Kawhi Leonard, whether they're

569
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: strong and they're they're athletic, but they're not really all

570
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: that tall. You know. That's a p J. Tucker, that

571
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: Jay Crowder type of vibe that you get from those big, stocky,

572
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: strong perimeter defenders. Ben Simmons is huge. He does all

573
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: of that at like six ten, and his biggest issue

574
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: throughout his career has been he can't score the basketball,

575
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: so you need to really spread things out for him

576
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: so that he can get driving lanes to get into

577
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: the lane. So it's imperative that he's around a lot

578
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: of shooting well. I can think of no better option

579
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: than having Ben Simmons grabbing the ball and running down

580
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: the floor with Kyrie Irving running one wing and Kevin

581
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: Durant running the other wing. And hopefully if Joe Harris

582
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Speaker 1: can get healthy, you've got another great option there if

583
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: you have. Ben Simmons is one of the best drive

584
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: and kick to open three point shooter type of players

585
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: that we have in the league. So that's a great

586
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: fit in Brooklyn. Yes, it sucks to lose James Harden.

587
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: James Harden if he if he's mentally engaged, absolutely gives

588
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: you a good chance to win the title. But he's

589
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: mentally checked out, his heart is down in Philly. He

590
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: wants to be down there. Send him down there. You

591
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: get a player and Ben Simmons coming back that still

592
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: gives you a legitimate chance to win the championship. Then

593
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: for Philly, you know, as we've seen so many times

594
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: in playoff series, just look at last year when when

595
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis went down, how hard it became for Lebron.

596
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: When Phoenix really started packing the pain and keying in

597
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: on what Lebron was doing, it rendered him nearly ineffective.

598
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: Because that's just the way modern basketball is. When you

599
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: can really pack the paint and throw multiple bodies at

600
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: a guy, especially when guys can't make people pay. That's

601
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: very much a threat to Joel embath Joel Embiid. This year,

602
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: they're one. They have one of the best records in

603
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: the league. They have overachieved. They're a good basketball team.

604
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: Tyrese Maxie looks great, but he stifles an awesome defensive player.

605
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: You know, Tobias Harris is overpaid, but he's a good wing.

606
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: They just don't have that other guy that can help

607
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: you make things a lot more difficult for teams the

608
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: defensive defensively game plan for you in a series. James

609
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: Harden immediately solves that. Now a lot of people have

610
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: been pointing out, including myself, that he's having one of

611
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: the worst seasons of his career. Now, I do not

612
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: think that he's this bad. I think a good chunk

613
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Speaker 1: of how bad he has looked is directly tied to

614
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Speaker 1: his mental state and the fact that his heart's not

615
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: in it, just like when he was Houston last year.

616
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: I think that when he gets down to Philly, he

617
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: will re engage mentally and you'll immediately see a massive

618
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: improvement in the way he's playing. There are a couple

619
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: of fit things that gotta work out, right, Like Joel

620
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: Embiad is not a great screen and roll big. He's

621
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Speaker 1: he likes to do dribble handoffs and things like that,

622
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: and he's not with exception of post ups, he doesn't

623
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: really like operating around the basket. So you're not gonna

624
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: get him to be Clint Capella for you. You're not

625
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: gonna get him to be Nick Claxton for you, like

626
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: the last two lob throwing bigs that James Harden played with.

627
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: So there's gonna be adjustments for them to figure out.

628
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: But this legitimately is something that can that could work.

629
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Speaker 1: Imagine Seth Curry on the right wing, Imagine Tobias Harris

630
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 1: on the left wing, James Harden dribbling down, going to work.

631
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Speaker 1: There's a lot to be excited there. And I just

632
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: think it makes sense for both sides, and I think

633
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: it's going to happen because both sides have basically already

634
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 1: come to terms with and accepted the fact that this

635
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: is probably gonna happen, and there's no point in going

636
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: back at this point. There's no point and trying to

637
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: finish this season when all of the parties involved already

638
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: have kind of mentally come to terms with the fact

639
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: that a trade is happening. So I think the trade

640
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: will happen pretty quick. I think it's good for both teams.

641
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 1: I think it's good for both players. Ben Simmons needs

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Speaker 1: to get back out on the basketball court, James Harden

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Speaker 1: needs to be engaged and actually trying. It will make

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Speaker 1: sense for both teams. I'm excited. I think it will

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Speaker 1: happen here in the next couple of days. All right,

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Speaker 1: that is all I have for tonight. Thank you guys

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Speaker 1: so much for coming to hang out. This will be

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Speaker 1: on our podcast feed first thing in the morning, and

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Speaker 1: we will be back for a show on Monday night.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Have a good rest your weekend.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you guys on Monday. The volume