Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Welcome back to bed your Happy Hour. I'm
Speaker 1: Joe and I'm Serena and we are here today with Bailey.
Speaker 1: Bailey Welcome. We're so excited to have you. Our listeners
Speaker 1: really want to hear from you.
Speaker 2: How you doing, Hi, guys, I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm good.
Speaker 3: I just got back from Europe and I'm honestly just
Speaker 3: like getting back into the swing of things.
Speaker 2: So no complaints over here.
Speaker 1: Nice. Nice, Okay, So you were on Grant season pretty quickly,
Speaker 1: but you stood out to us because we talked about
Speaker 1: you a lot, and I remember thinking like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you're going to end up with Grant. I
Speaker 1: couldn't really get a feel for whoever was going to
Speaker 1: end up with Grant, but I was like, you are
Speaker 1: you are definitely someone that I think will be in Paradise.
Speaker 4: And were you surprised when they asked you?
Speaker 3: Honestly, I feel like after coming off of Paradise, it
Speaker 3: makes sense, like I kind of feel like, you know,
Speaker 3: it was all meant to happen for a reason. I
Speaker 3: think everyone was like a little up in the air about,
Speaker 3: you know, if they were going on Paradise. What was happening.
Speaker 3: I think we all kind of found out pretty late,
Speaker 3: but I was really happy. Honestly, when they asked me,
Speaker 3: I feel like it would have definitely like it was
Speaker 3: more my speed.
Speaker 2: I definitely feel like I got more time.
Speaker 3: To just like be myself and it was still stressful,
Speaker 3: but I still like.
Speaker 2: Really enjoyed my experience.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I feel like, you know, everything happens for
Speaker 3: a reason, and my time on Grant season was short.
Speaker 3: I literally got sent home on like week three, but
Speaker 3: you know, it all was a part of a bigger
Speaker 3: plan for me to go to Paradise, So I think
Speaker 3: that's really awesome.
Speaker 4: Did you watch the show before going on Grant season?
Speaker 2: Honestly, like not really.
Speaker 3: I think the last time I watched was Hannah season
Speaker 3: because we are friends and so that's really the last
Speaker 3: time I watched.
Speaker 2: Like a full season like till the end.
Speaker 4: Gana g.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the last time I've like really watched a season,
Speaker 3: And even going into it, I didn't even watch, Like
Speaker 3: I think I watched the finale of Joey's season and
Speaker 3: I watched when Grant got sent home, and that was
Speaker 3: kind of.
Speaker 2: Just like I was like, I think I've got like
Speaker 2: a good fix.
Speaker 3: Like when I was in a sorority, we used to
Speaker 3: like do Bachelor Mondays and watch them all together. But
Speaker 3: that was like when Hannah was on. So that's really
Speaker 3: the last season that I watched.
Speaker 4: Had you seen Paradise before?
Speaker 3: No, I actually had not seen Paradise, So when she
Speaker 3: was on Paradise, I like only very briefly watched years ago,
Speaker 3: and then before I think I watched some. I watched
Speaker 3: the first three episodes of season eight, and then I
Speaker 3: realized that, like whatever I was thinking of outfits is
Speaker 3: going to be totally different. So I was just like,
Speaker 3: I really watched it so I could plan my outfits,
Speaker 3: and I was like, it's going to be a totally
Speaker 3: different season. So whatever really like happens on this Paradise
Speaker 3: isn't really gonna like help me. So I was like,
Speaker 3: I kind of just need to like shut it off.
Speaker 3: It's also the last of episodes, honestly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, going into going into Paradise, who are your friends
Speaker 1: from Grant season and what guys are you interested in
Speaker 1: meeting if any?
Speaker 3: So going into Paradise, Zoe and I were really good
Speaker 3: friends from Grant season, and Alicia and I were good
Speaker 3: friends from Grant season, Prisa and I share a best friend,
Speaker 3: so I kind of knew all the girls from my
Speaker 3: season that were going. I'm friends with Ali Joe, I
Speaker 3: was friends with Alex. Like Alex and I weren't as
Speaker 3: close on Grant Season, but we definitely like built our
Speaker 3: friendship on Paradise, which was really nice because we were roommates.
Speaker 3: So I was really happy to like have Zoe there
Speaker 3: with me, especially week one. Lexi and I have like
Speaker 3: followed each other, and I just like knew I was
Speaker 3: gonna love her. I feel like I had a good
Speaker 3: idea of who was going on Paradise. I don't think
Speaker 3: people knew that I was going on Paradise, which is
Speaker 3: also like kind of nice because I feel like people
Speaker 3: didn't really have time to like do research on me.
Speaker 3: Maybe they would have not liked but they saw on
Speaker 3: Grant Season. I don't know, they could be anti selfie takers.
Speaker 3: I feel like you just never really know these days.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think I kind of knew the guys,
Speaker 3: but really, I haven't had enough time in like Bachelor
Speaker 3: Nation world to get to like know everyone.
Speaker 1: I like.
Speaker 3: Very briefly met a few of the guys from Gen
Speaker 3: season for maybe thirty seconds at the time. Tell all,
Speaker 3: So I really went into it like having no preconceived
Speaker 3: notions about anybody, and really I didn't have anyone.
Speaker 2: I was like excited to meet, per se.
Speaker 3: I had like a list of people that I just
Speaker 3: you know, glanced at their pages and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: like I think we might vibe.
Speaker 2: I feel like they seem cool.
Speaker 3: But I really didn't know anyone, which I feel like
Speaker 3: is good because I'm a really big personality person. So
Speaker 3: I think it just allowed me to like feel really
Speaker 3: natural in the moment and not be like I hate
Speaker 3: this person, you know.
Speaker 2: I was just kind of like being honestly.
Speaker 4: We see you get down there and you kind of
Speaker 4: immediately enter this soft love triangle with Jeremy and Kyle.
Speaker 4: Tell us about those two connections and your first impressions
Speaker 4: of these guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I went on the beach and
Speaker 3: I was just honestly like, oh, I hope someone's like
Speaker 3: kind of interested in me. I was just like, oh,
Speaker 3: I hope somebody's like feeling me, vibing with me, And
Speaker 3: I feel like it was a really good group of
Speaker 3: guys on day one. Two had like no idea Kyle
Speaker 3: was going to be there, so he was a surprised.
Speaker 3: I knew that Jeremy was going to be there, but
Speaker 3: we like had only briefly met, like for five seconds
Speaker 3: one time, and I don't even really remember us meeting
Speaker 3: each other, honestly, I just know we were in the
Speaker 3: same place.
Speaker 2: So I feel like, you know, I think they both.
Speaker 3: Surprised me because I wasn't expecting to like talk to
Speaker 3: either of them or have conversations with either of them.
Speaker 3: And I feel like when I was having conversations with
Speaker 3: every single person that day, I was solely going off
Speaker 3: of like personality, and I think both their personalities in
Speaker 3: different ways like stood out to me. And yeah, I've
Speaker 3: never been in a soft love triangle, so that was
Speaker 3: definitely very nerve wracking, and you know, I was feeling
Speaker 3: really nervous with my feelings. Like week one, I was
Speaker 3: just like so overwhelmed because you, I mean, you guys
Speaker 3: know like you have to make such tough decisions in Paradise,
Speaker 3: and it's like because you focused on certain people, if
Speaker 3: you know you don't choose them, their journey is like
Speaker 3: cut short. And so many people went home week one,
Speaker 3: so it was like really nerve wracking, and you don't
Speaker 3: want to make like the wrong decision with anything, and
Speaker 3: so yeah, it was definitely a weird feeling for me
Speaker 3: because I'm very much just like with you know, I'm
Speaker 3: like used to just like being locked in on one person.
Speaker 3: So but I also wanted to come into Paradise just
Speaker 3: really you know, making the most of this experience, taking
Speaker 3: time to really get to know everyone. I didn't want
Speaker 3: to leave with like any regrets. So yeah, there was
Speaker 3: a lot going on.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you you end up choosing Jeremy, which seems
Speaker 1: like it's the correct decision for you and for him.
Speaker 1: What is your relationship like after you pick him? Prior
Speaker 1: to Susie coming onto the show? Where do you guys, Like,
Speaker 1: what would you consider your relationship status at that point?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I feel like we were pretty like
Speaker 3: in a really good place.
Speaker 2: Like I feel like I felt in a really good
Speaker 2: place with us.
Speaker 3: I feel like That's also why I was really calm
Speaker 3: when Susie did come in, and even when they went
Speaker 3: on their date, I was just like, I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: in a good place, Like I am confident in this
Speaker 3: the decision that I made. I still think that, you know,
Speaker 3: I know that Jeremy was the correct decision for me
Speaker 3: at the time, and so I was like, yeah, this
Speaker 3: is you know this, I'm making this decision like with
Speaker 3: a lot of confidence behind it, and kind of whatever
Speaker 3: happens going into week two, like that's just kind of
Speaker 3: what happens. Like, I feel like it was a weird
Speaker 3: feeling though, because it did seem like everyone was really
Speaker 3: locking in after week one and that's like so nerve wrecking,
Speaker 3: and honestly, I don't even really remember us ever having
Speaker 3: conversations about other people coming in. I feel like we
Speaker 3: were just really taking all of our time to really
Speaker 3: get to know each other. And so I mean, you
Speaker 3: have this thought that new people are coming in every
Speaker 3: week because that's just paradise, and I honestly like really
Speaker 3: didn't give it any thought.
Speaker 2: I was just like, new people are coming in.
Speaker 3: I knew Susie was coming, I didn't know that Jill
Speaker 3: was coming, and I knew that Ali Joe and Priesta
Speaker 3: were both coming. So I was kind of just like,
Speaker 3: I guess we just kind of see. Like I was like,
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm worried about any of the girls
Speaker 3: that are already here, So it's gonna.
Speaker 1: Have to kind of be like, well, I mean I
Speaker 1: don't think anyone on in the history of this show,
Speaker 1: like week two's early, right, Like yeah, if you if
Speaker 1: you would have had an issue with him going on
Speaker 1: a date, that would have been like, Okay, it's it's
Speaker 1: pretty early, Like you got to explore when it's when
Speaker 1: we're only you know, it's really only like three three
Speaker 1: four days in. Yeah, he goes on the date, he
Speaker 1: comes back. Where is your head at when he gets back? Like,
Speaker 1: do you know, like what where he stands with this relationship?
Speaker 2: Well, so their date was like right before Rose ceremony.
Speaker 3: So while they were on their date, I was like
Speaker 3: I spent the day just like kind of vibing, Like
Speaker 3: I just spent the day at the pool honestly with
Speaker 3: Spencer and Jess, Like it was so fun and we
Speaker 3: were just like having a good time. I was so calm,
Speaker 3: which is really unlike me. I was so calm the
Speaker 3: entire day. I was just like, you know, I was
Speaker 3: in a good mental space, just being like whatever happens happened,
Speaker 3: and like that's really all that I can control. And
Speaker 3: then I think also like everyone else was kind of
Speaker 3: also having intense stress at that moment, so I was
Speaker 3: just like also trying to be there for my friends
Speaker 3: and also trying you know, there was just a lot
Speaker 3: going on at once, and so I think where my
Speaker 3: mental kind of was just like, oh shit.
Speaker 2: Like maybe I will be going home tonight. I really
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: Like while I was packing, after I was dressed, I
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, maybe I should just like, you know,
Speaker 3: get it in my head that I'm feeling confident of
Speaker 3: where we are, but also like I don't know how
Speaker 3: the date's going. I know Susie's an amazing person, so
Speaker 3: like it's very you know, it's hard to say, like again,
Speaker 3: it's it's been like four days at this point, so
Speaker 3: it is kind of just like, oh, shoot, like something
Speaker 3: could change. And then I think, like going into cocktail hour,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yeah, like maybe there's a chance
Speaker 3: that things could really feel weird. I definitely felt like
Speaker 3: a little I wouldn't say like an energy shift. I
Speaker 3: was just like, oh, I'm a little bit nervous. I
Speaker 3: could tell like he seemed very conflicted. And then we
Speaker 3: had our conversation and I I was just like, listen,
Speaker 3: I don't want to be really emotional in this moment.
Speaker 3: Because I feel like I want you to make a decision,
Speaker 3: not because I'm upset, but because like this is actually
Speaker 3: the decision that.
Speaker 2: You want to make. And I remember sharing that with him.
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't want you to make a
Speaker 3: decision because I'm crying and like crying, screaming, throwing up.
Speaker 3: You know, I want you to make this decision because
Speaker 3: like this is what you want, and this is what
Speaker 3: you want on your journey, and you feel like that's
Speaker 3: how it should be. Because then like also it's just
Speaker 3: like it just gets messy when like someone's really emotionally
Speaker 3: like triggered.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: So I feel like I just had to disassociate a
Speaker 3: coptail hour and I was like I just need to
Speaker 3: turn my brain off, just you know, I said my
Speaker 3: piece and whatever happens happens.
Speaker 2: And that Rose ceremony was like really nerve wracking.
Speaker 3: I feel like it felt like I was back on
Speaker 3: like night one of Grant season, just being like, oh crap,
Speaker 3: like things could really not go the way I want
Speaker 3: them to go. And so yeah, I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's a stressful situation, Like you understand both sides
Speaker 3: that you have to make these hard decisions and you
Speaker 3: just realize that it's paradise, Like really, anything can happen.
Speaker 1: Did Jeremy give you any like reassurance or any inkling
Speaker 1: into where his rose was going?
Speaker 3: I think that after we had our conversation, I honestly
Speaker 3: felt really good about our conversation. After we had it,
Speaker 3: I was still like a little emotionally shut down because
Speaker 3: I was still just trying to like process my emotions. Also,
Speaker 3: like I think everyone saw how much I cried on
Speaker 3: Grant season and also how much I cried Week one,
Speaker 3: So I was like, I don't want to be an
Speaker 3: emotional mess, So I just need a process in case
Speaker 3: I am going home.
Speaker 2: So I did like slightly go into.
Speaker 3: Rose ceremony, just like with the thought that like I
Speaker 3: actually really might be going home, so that I didn't like.
Speaker 2: Maybe scream cry.
Speaker 3: I don't know, like sometimes your emotions are just like
Speaker 3: not in tune in that moment, and I feel like
Speaker 3: I just told him. I was like, if it's not
Speaker 3: going to be me, all I want is like you
Speaker 3: to tell me that so I have time to like
Speaker 3: mentally prepare. And we never had time to have that
Speaker 3: conversation because you know, cocktail is quick it is you
Speaker 3: think you have all the time in the world and
Speaker 3: you you really don't. And so yeah, going in the
Speaker 3: rose ceremony, like the only small inkling I had, like
Speaker 3: when we passed each other, he like winked at me,
Speaker 3: and I was like, that's weird, Like why would you
Speaker 3: wink at someone if you're.
Speaker 2: Gonna send them home?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, I was like, if he just
Speaker 3: like winked at me and sent me home, I'm fully
Speaker 3: crashing out, like I'm gonna rock it, like I'm going crazy.
Speaker 3: And so then you know, I was calm, thankfully, I
Speaker 3: see calm even after the wink and I was just like,
Speaker 3: I hope, you know things work out in my favor.
Speaker 2: And I was like if not, like you know, shortly
Speaker 2: it is what it is.
Speaker 4: We see that he does give you his rose during
Speaker 4: that row ceremony, and then we also see everything play
Speaker 4: out with Justin and Susie where they both end up
Speaker 4: going home. Was any part of you wondering had Susie stayed,
Speaker 4: if Jeremy and her would have continued exploring their relationship.
Speaker 4: Did you and Jeremy ever talk about Susie after that
Speaker 4: rose ceremony and maybe what their connection had looked like
Speaker 4: on the date and what it could have looked like
Speaker 4: if she stayed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like our conversation the next morning, like
Speaker 3: I just basically asked him, I was like, you know,
Speaker 3: are you feeling confident in your decision at this moment?
Speaker 3: And he was like, I think he's like I made
Speaker 3: the right decision, Like I think you know I And
Speaker 3: he asked me if I wanted to know about the date,
Speaker 3: and I honestly didn't want to know about the date
Speaker 3: because I feel like the whole point of paradise is
Speaker 3: that you go on dates with people and like who
Speaker 3: the point is like you're choosing the person that you
Speaker 3: choose for a reason, And so I honestly just like
Speaker 3: didn't really care about the date. I feel like if
Speaker 3: he really felt this connection, that he would have picked her,
Speaker 3: even if it was like a beginning spark, And so
Speaker 3: I was just like, I just have to be confident
Speaker 3: on like where we are. Obviously, I also had no
Speaker 3: idea that all these things were going on, and there's
Speaker 3: moments of doubt and there's all these things to process.
Speaker 3: But yeah, after that insane Row ceremony, like we too,
Speaker 3: that was a crazy Rose ceremony. I didn't really think
Speaker 3: much about it because I was kind of like okay,
Speaker 3: and kind of hearing Susie like her viewpoint after, Like
Speaker 3: I don't know if I really think it would have
Speaker 3: changed that much because it didn't feel like she wanted
Speaker 3: to get into a love triangle, and I think it
Speaker 3: would have been really messy anyway. So I obviously have
Speaker 3: no idea what like would have happened. I guess it
Speaker 3: just like kind of worked out in my favor in
Speaker 3: that moment, and I think.
Speaker 2: I was so focused on the present.
Speaker 3: I really wasn't giving like a lot of these like
Speaker 3: what ifs time, and you know, when you watch it back,
Speaker 3: you think about things.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, well things are happening so fast too,
Speaker 4: Like just even the fact that you guys are going
Speaker 4: on dates on the same day as Rose ceremony. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like that's that's quick. That's things are moving fast. So
Speaker 4: I can totally understand how it's kind of like it's
Speaker 4: not even things getting swept under the rug. It's just
Speaker 4: like you know, the current's pushing you forward, and like
Speaker 4: if you didn't kind of jump onto something when it
Speaker 4: was happening, sometimes it gets a little left behind, but
Speaker 4: this one didn't get left behind. It did end up
Speaker 4: following you through the next few weeks. Let's talk about
Speaker 4: your date with Andrew. So the roseter remedy happens, basically,
Speaker 4: I think it was to the next day, Andrew comes
Speaker 4: down to Paradise, He talks to you and Alex. He
Speaker 4: ends up taking you on the date. Walk us through
Speaker 4: your decision to go on the date with Andrew and
Speaker 4: then your conversation with Jereby.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I feel like I was really caught off
Speaker 3: guard by Andrew asking me to go on the date.
Speaker 3: I did know that Andrew was coming to the beach,
Speaker 3: but honestly, like I didn't really have like any thoughts
Speaker 3: about it. I just I didn't really give it that
Speaker 3: much like energy in my head. And the day that
Speaker 3: he arrived, I barely spoke to him, like I think
Speaker 3: I said hi, and then I just kind of like
Speaker 3: me and Jeremy were just kind of like off in
Speaker 3: the corner. And so I was really caught off guard
Speaker 3: when he like asked to speak to me, and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, and I came into our conversation and
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, you want to take me on
Speaker 3: a date? I was like I haven't even given that thought,
Speaker 3: because like I wasn't expecting you to take me on
Speaker 3: a date, honestly, And in that moment, I was just like, well,
Speaker 3: I don't see why it would be a big deal.
Speaker 2: Like Jeremy just went on a date yesterday.
Speaker 3: The whole point of Paradise is that you go on dates,
Speaker 3: and like if you come back and choose your person,
Speaker 3: then like that's who you choose, and that's like that's
Speaker 3: what paradise is about.
Speaker 2: And so I was just like, I mean, yeah, I
Speaker 2: would love to go on a date.
Speaker 3: I've honestly never been on a one on one So
Speaker 3: I was like, I've never had a date and like
Speaker 3: bachelor history, and I.
Speaker 2: Would love to like know what these dates.
Speaker 3: I was like, this would be fun, Like you know,
Speaker 3: Andrew had a really good energy and like I feel
Speaker 3: like I really enjoyed our conversation. We're like a little
Speaker 3: bit similar and like kind of our hutean like in
Speaker 3: those kind of things. I was like, yeah, I feel
Speaker 3: like this will be fun, Like we'll have a good time.
Speaker 3: And like when Susie talked to me about going on
Speaker 3: the date with Jeremy, I was like, I think he'll
Speaker 3: have a great time, and like that was my thought process.
Speaker 2: And you know, obviously I don't.
Speaker 3: Think that Jeremy and I really had a conversation about
Speaker 3: me going on a date that night. Like earlier, we
Speaker 3: weren't like, oh, if someone new comes in, like will
Speaker 3: you go on the date? Because I wasn't really thinking
Speaker 3: I was going to go on the date. So I
Speaker 3: think my first thought was like, Okay, yeah, like I
Speaker 3: would be open to the date, but like, I definitely
Speaker 3: need to like talk to Jeremy about it because I
Speaker 3: feel like that's kind of like, you know, how you
Speaker 3: keep open and honest communication. And I was definitely caught
Speaker 3: off guard a little bit by you know, how upset
Speaker 3: he was, and it threw me off, Like I got
Speaker 3: really upset about the date, and then I was just
Speaker 3: like overwhelmed with emotions because I could have you know,
Speaker 3: and like you said, like things are happening so quickly,
Speaker 3: it's like you have no time to process. And the
Speaker 3: date was that night, so it's like all these things
Speaker 3: were happening like within you know, seconds or like minutes
Speaker 3: of each other. So I was just like I barely
Speaker 3: have time to to process this decide if I'm going
Speaker 3: to go on the date, and I just knew I
Speaker 3: wanted to leave Paradise with no regrets. So I was like,
Speaker 3: I mean, I know he's upset. I hope that he
Speaker 3: trust me and you know, sees how things go. And
Speaker 3: I was like, I was really calm, cool and collected,
Speaker 3: so like, that's what I also feel happens. Obviously that
Speaker 3: didn't happen, but you know, I was like, I was like,
Speaker 3: I still need to be present on like my journey
Speaker 3: here and make the most out of it.
Speaker 2: And so you know, that's how I went into it
Speaker 2: for the date.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting because when he told you about his date,
Speaker 4: you expressed a few minutes ago that your goal with
Speaker 4: the conversation was to not be too emotional because you
Speaker 4: wanted him to have a clear head to make his
Speaker 4: decision and not make a decision based off of your emotions.
Speaker 4: Did that contribute to, like your shock when he reacted
Speaker 4: so emotionally about you going in the date, and did
Speaker 4: it make you waiver in your decision in any way?
Speaker 4: Like did you feel swayed by his emotion?
Speaker 3: It's not that I like felt swayed about his emotion.
Speaker 3: I think, like, you know, you you care about this person.
Speaker 3: So I was like, oh, like, if they're upset, I
Speaker 3: feel upset, you know that kind of thing. So I
Speaker 3: was more just like, oh, I'm really worried about like
Speaker 3: how upset he is. I wasn't really processing his reaction
Speaker 3: in that moment. I was really just like more worried
Speaker 3: about his feelings and about you know, how he was
Speaker 3: feeling about me.
Speaker 2: Going on the date.
Speaker 3: And I mean he's normally a very like calm headed
Speaker 3: person what I've learned about him in these two weeks.
Speaker 3: So I was just like, oh, I you know, I
Speaker 3: wasn't really thinking it was going to be a thing
Speaker 3: because I was like, I think he'll be calm about it,
Speaker 3: and you know, but it's also it's a really high pressure,
Speaker 3: high intent situation, like you're really having to like process
Speaker 3: your emotions in paradise. You don't have a phone, you
Speaker 3: don't have like you can't call your mom, like you
Speaker 3: you really you have to process and be one with
Speaker 3: your emotions, and sometimes it just like it's skyrockets and
Speaker 3: it's like and I was definitely taken aback by that.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, crap, Like he's really upset. I
Speaker 3: was not expecting him to be upset so I think
Speaker 3: that also really threw me off.
Speaker 1: I am an immature person. At times. I would have said,
Speaker 1: what the fuck you went on a date, you know,
Speaker 1: fifteen hours ago. Why is it an issue if I
Speaker 1: now go on a date. Did you ever think that
Speaker 1: or ever say that?
Speaker 4: Was that ever a kind of it would have been
Speaker 4: like I'm actually going to go date everyone on the
Speaker 4: speech now.
Speaker 2: No, I just don't date I meaning everyone like I.
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, Like it would be like if this
Speaker 1: was like, you know, two weeks after and you guys
Speaker 1: kind of were more locked down and he was like visibly,
Speaker 1: then I would get it more. But because he had
Speaker 1: just went on a date in such a short period
Speaker 1: of time, it does seem just very hypocritical.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And looking back, there's like two sides.
Speaker 3: So it's like obviously the night before, like I expressed
Speaker 3: to him that like I was really only focused on him,
Speaker 3: and really I was like I wasn't really like I
Speaker 3: didn't really have like at that moment, like I had
Speaker 3: conversations with everyone, and like it was like him and I,
Speaker 3: like after going after Rose Serram, I was like, you know,
Speaker 3: there's not anyone I'm interested in, and like coming in
Speaker 3: I really didn't have Andrew on my radar, so it
Speaker 3: wasn't even like I was like, I hope Andrew takes
Speaker 3: me on the date, you know. I was kind of
Speaker 3: just like, oh, I'm shocked that you want to take
Speaker 3: me on the date, because I was also like, there's
Speaker 3: other people that aren't coupled up, and so like that
Speaker 3: was a lot to process, and I think in the moment,
Speaker 3: I couldn't even be like, wait, I just went on
Speaker 3: the date.
Speaker 2: But I think in some of the conversation I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, I just went on a date.
Speaker 3: You just went on a date yesterday. I didn't think
Speaker 3: it was going to be a big deal for me
Speaker 3: to go on the date, And at that moment, I
Speaker 3: couldn't even really react and be like I'm angry, you know.
Speaker 3: I was just more like, oh, I'm worried about your feelings,
Speaker 3: and I was like very emotionally thrown off. So I
Speaker 3: think it was more just it was just like a
Speaker 3: caught off guard moment. I feel like that's what paradise is.
Speaker 3: But it's like sometimes you don't even have time to
Speaker 3: like think in an angry matter, because like you don't
Speaker 3: have time to really process it. It was like i'd
Speaker 3: process going on the date. I has a talk to Jeremy.
Speaker 3: I'm leaving for the date. You know, it's so quick.
Speaker 3: So I think that's why probably after like I left,
Speaker 3: he had all this time, you know, to sit and
Speaker 3: think about me going on the date, and I really
Speaker 3: didn't have to. I was like, I just have to
Speaker 3: be in the moment on my date, and then like
Speaker 3: later I can reflect back on this moment and think
Speaker 3: about how I'm feeling and how things go on, and
Speaker 3: we can have a conversation about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, so we see we see Jeremy somewhat spiral,
Speaker 1: which you know, he is getting a lot of heat
Speaker 1: for that, but like I do get it, Like you're
Speaker 1: in this situation, you spiral a little bit. He calls
Speaker 1: Susie bold move, but he does it. But when he
Speaker 1: gets back, or when you get back from the date,
Speaker 1: you end up choosing Jeremy and not Andrew. Does Jeremy
Speaker 1: ever address the fact that, like, hey, like I overreact it,
Speaker 1: like you know, like or even explain why he was
Speaker 1: upset that you went on the date, Like why is
Speaker 1: he that upset over it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Is there a conversation that kind of closes that out.
Speaker 3: So the conversation like after the date, I obviously don't
Speaker 3: have time to see Jeremy.
Speaker 2: It's late.
Speaker 3: So we come back from the date, we go to sleep,
Speaker 3: I wake up the morning, the first person I want
Speaker 3: to see is obviously Jeremy. So we have like this
Speaker 3: moment where I discussed like the date, you know, I
Speaker 3: was like, do you want to know about the date?
Speaker 3: Like all these things, and I let him know that like, yes,
Speaker 3: I had a good time on the date, and like,
Speaker 3: I'm glad I went on the date, but ultimately, like
Speaker 3: I'm focused in on this, and I think where in
Speaker 3: that moment at least where he told me were his
Speaker 3: feelings of like you know, where he was upset. He
Speaker 3: just like felt like I was maybe being dishonest with
Speaker 3: him because like I had said that I was really
Speaker 3: locked into him, which in that moment I understood. I
Speaker 3: was like, yes, I still don't think it was like
Speaker 3: worth the freak out, just because like I was so calm,
Speaker 3: but also like at this point I've only known him
Speaker 3: for three weeks, so I actually really don't know how
Speaker 3: he processes, you know, intense moments like that, and I
Speaker 3: wasn't going to hold him too it either like his reaction,
Speaker 3: I was going to be like, oh, this reaction was
Speaker 3: so out of left field, like we're done, you know,
Speaker 3: that's that's too much like worst. We're in this like
Speaker 3: pressure cooker of intensity. So I feel like and there's
Speaker 3: moments like where my first thought isn't always to like
Speaker 3: choose anger. My first thought is like usually crying, so
Speaker 3: like when I'm frustrated, when I'm overwhelmed. So I feel
Speaker 3: like also every single person kind of reacts differently. But
Speaker 3: we did have a conversation and I was like, I'm
Speaker 3: sorry if I misled like my words the night before.
Speaker 3: I just really wasn't thinking that he was going to
Speaker 3: take me on the date. And that's really where a
Speaker 3: majority of like our conversation was about. Was just like,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm sorry for this, and he was like
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have really acted that way, and like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was. It was like a tough it was a
Speaker 3: tough wash like that night and like going into that morning. Obviously,
Speaker 3: I think in hindsight, I didn't know about the phone call,
Speaker 3: so I wish that that morning would have been just
Speaker 3: like a moment where he was just like yeah and like, ah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I did actually spiral, and I did you know, fully
Speaker 3: let loose? And I called Susie, and I think it
Speaker 3: would have been easily squashed and it not turned into
Speaker 3: this whole thing, but it was. It was a tough
Speaker 3: like you're also like trying to shove so many things down,
Speaker 3: you know, like I don't have a phone where I
Speaker 3: can make a notes list and be like let me
Speaker 3: touch on this, on why this, and you know, reflecting back.
Speaker 2: On this, and.
Speaker 3: So you really are just like having all these conversations
Speaker 3: in all these thoughts based off what's going on in
Speaker 3: your head.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have one question, then we'll jump into the
Speaker 4: meat of it this week's episode. Do you think, just hypothetically,
Speaker 4: if at the cocktail party someone had said tomorrow, Andrew's
Speaker 4: gonna come down and take Bailey on a date and
Speaker 4: she's gonna go on it, do you think he would
Speaker 4: have given Susie his rose?
Speaker 2: That's hard.
Speaker 3: I feel like maybe honestly, because like at that point,
Speaker 3: like we didn't obviously knowing Susie, like she wasn't gonna
Speaker 3: go on the date with Andrew because they're friends and
Speaker 3: he's friends with her ex boyfriend. So I think it
Speaker 3: would have definitely changed things if we obviously could have
Speaker 3: like looked into the future and seeing, yeah, like Andrew's
Speaker 3: gonna come in and like ask Bailey out a date,
Speaker 3: because like you know, there's also moments it's like you
Speaker 3: know certain people are coming in at some time, and
Speaker 3: so it's kind of like do I pick this person
Speaker 3: knowing that someone else really wants them? And it's like
Speaker 3: it's even like with honestly, like Ali Joe and Sam,
Speaker 3: like you know, we kind of knew that they would
Speaker 3: be a good match for each other. So it's also
Speaker 3: like you're taking that risk of giving your rose to
Speaker 3: someone knowing that maybe someone they could be interested in
Speaker 3: or someone that like has them top Like you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, it's like you kind of and the
Speaker 3: point of paradise is like, yes, like I'm I'm a person.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about everyone's feelings and like the bigger picture
Speaker 3: and like you know, I'm thinking about your feelings how
Speaker 3: you're processing this, But you also have to think about
Speaker 3: yourself when you're in paradise, So like every decision you're
Speaker 3: making is based on like what's gonna have the best
Speaker 3: outcome for you? And so like honestly, if he probably
Speaker 3: would have known that like Andrew was coming down, maybe
Speaker 3: he would have picked Susie, even though not knowing the
Speaker 3: outcome of what I mean, I.
Speaker 1: Mean odds, odds, he probably would because his odds are
Speaker 1: probably be like, why risks, why risk would you know this?
Speaker 1: But anyways, okay, okay, so let's get we'll get into
Speaker 1: this episode where things get get crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because obviously as viewers, we're seeing everything that you're
Speaker 4: not seeing. So we're seeing him spiral, We're seeing him
Speaker 4: call Susie, We're seeing these private chats that he thinks
Speaker 4: are private chats with Brian and him in the bedroom
Speaker 4: talking about I don't want to win this competition with Bailey,
Speaker 4: I don't want to go to the VIP suite with Bailey.
Speaker 4: I miss Susie. So this, as an audience member is
Speaker 4: a big build up moment because we are waiting for
Speaker 4: that day where you learn what we know that Jeremy
Speaker 4: has been saying and doing. I would not have expected
Speaker 4: it to be Brian to be the one to step
Speaker 4: up to do this. However, he's the guy in this episode.
Speaker 4: We see he says and multiple times in interviews, how
Speaker 4: much he likes you, how much he cares about you,
Speaker 4: and yes, there's a sense of like there's this new
Speaker 4: competition element, but it does really seem like his conscience
Speaker 4: is kind of playing a role. He's you know, we
Speaker 4: see all the confusion of he's asks you for a
Speaker 4: private chat, you think he's pursuing you. It's like, you know,
Speaker 4: a little bit of a mess. And then finally you're like,
Speaker 4: I don't want to date Brian. What is going on? Finally,
Speaker 4: you guys sit down and he kind of tells you
Speaker 4: everything that we as viewers have been waiting for you
Speaker 4: to learn. How did that moment feel and what was
Speaker 4: going through your mind?
Speaker 3: So much is going through my mind, I mean honestly,
Speaker 3: like I'm also unfortunately watching it back with you guys,
Speaker 3: and that sucks.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like, you know, you're like watching the
Speaker 2: You're watching something go on, and you're like, I had
Speaker 2: no idea these things were happening.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: It's really hard.
Speaker 3: You're just like, oh my god, Like you know, I
Speaker 3: was just like, honestly in La La land, Like I
Speaker 3: just feel like I was just like it's Bailey's world,
Speaker 3: Like I'm just in Bailey's world and I'm just living
Speaker 3: in the moment.
Speaker 2: And then you're watching back and you're like, oh, I'm
Speaker 2: watching everyone else's.
Speaker 1: World and it's not.
Speaker 3: Thought.
Speaker 2: It was, Oh, it's.
Speaker 4: Not my world.
Speaker 2: It's actually really not my world.
Speaker 3: I'm actually living in everyone else's world and I'm just
Speaker 3: like a random.
Speaker 2: But it was, yeah, like, here's the thing.
Speaker 3: I do think that Brian was coming from a genuine place.
Speaker 3: I think that getting into this competition aspect, I still think,
Speaker 3: you know, there's always there's even if it is coming
Speaker 3: from a genuine place, there's still way it can be
Speaker 3: beneficial to you.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: But I still felt like Brian was coming from a
Speaker 3: genuine place, and like he really expressed that in our conversation.
Speaker 3: Do I wish that he would have done it in
Speaker 3: the secret rendezvous way? No, because that caught me really
Speaker 3: off guard, and I think anyone that knows me, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm a taurist, I'm a super loyal person.
Speaker 2: So like I was just like, oh, whoa, No, Like.
Speaker 3: I was like absolutely not, Like I didn't know that
Speaker 3: that was the point of the conversation. I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm not about to have a secret rendezvous with you,
Speaker 3: because like that's insane work.
Speaker 2: Like I would I'm not that I'm not gonna step
Speaker 2: out of.
Speaker 3: My character just because like maybe you have something to
Speaker 3: tell me, Like I'm like, tell it to me at breakfast,
Speaker 3: Like what is this gonna change? Like I was like,
Speaker 3: you can't have this conversation with me in front of anyone,
Speaker 3: like at that moment. I'm also obviously the last person
Speaker 3: to know, so I had no idea that this is
Speaker 3: the purpose of the conversation. I had no idea why
Speaker 3: he wanted to have the secret rendezvous. And the whole
Speaker 3: point of secret rendezvous is like so maybe you're like
Speaker 3: seeing who else you're compatible with and all these things,
Speaker 3: And I was just like, oh, this is just like
Speaker 3: not something I'm interested in, like you know, because like
Speaker 3: I have chosen Jeremy, He's chosen me, So like that's
Speaker 3: where my head was. I was like, we also just
Speaker 3: had like an insanely fun one on one date last week,
Speaker 3: so like why would why would anyone even think that
Speaker 3: I would do a secret rendezvous. I'm still We're really
Speaker 3: grateful to Brian for telling me. It was such a
Speaker 3: shitty feeling, like knowing that I was the last person
Speaker 3: to like find out about this and every other person
Speaker 3: knew about it, like in the grand scheme of things,
Speaker 3: Like I just wish that Jeremy would have told me.
Speaker 3: I don't know where like his mind is at the
Speaker 3: time as to why he didn't tell me, or maybe
Speaker 3: things were going so good he didn't want to like
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Dampen the mood.
Speaker 3: And I will say like I was very emotionally like upset,
Speaker 3: like coming off of having to send Gary and Leslie home,
Speaker 3: Like my emotions were just like out of whack. And
Speaker 3: so when Brian told me, it like really set me
Speaker 3: off emotionally, like I just like shut down. I was
Speaker 3: just like it felt like everything had just been like
Speaker 3: building up for what we're in week like I don't
Speaker 3: know this week six, week five, and I was just
Speaker 3: like I'm like I'm done, Like I was like I'm out,
Speaker 3: like this is this is too much for me, Like
Speaker 3: I don't even care about the five hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 3: at this point because like emotionally I'm drained, like I'm
Speaker 3: at I'm on e like I can't take it anymore.
Speaker 3: And I just wish that, like I don't know some
Speaker 3: of my friends would have told me, because like I
Speaker 3: just feel like, you know, in my head, like, yes,
Speaker 3: Jeremy should have been the person to tell me, and
Speaker 3: then secondly my friend should have told me. So it's
Speaker 3: like kind of hard because you're going down the chain
Speaker 3: of people that you wish would have told you before
Speaker 3: you got to Brian telling you. And that was really
Speaker 3: hard because that just totally threw me off. And the
Speaker 3: Secret rendezvouth every it was like every single week, I
Speaker 3: was just being thrown off honestly, like I was caught
Speaker 3: off guard every single day of Paradise and that's a
Speaker 3: really like crazy feeling.
Speaker 2: And that was just a really.
Speaker 3: Insane day for me because I was just like I
Speaker 3: was tired from the challenge. I was like, oh, I'm
Speaker 3: excited to like see Jeremy now we've you know, we
Speaker 3: were all separate, separate for the challenge. It's like, you know,
Speaker 3: we're doing this, We're doing our compatibility challenge and things
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: And so going into just the.
Speaker 3: Night like where we would all hang out, like I
Speaker 3: got ready that I got served with the Secret Rendezvous note,
Speaker 3: I'm just like, whoaf Like these things are being thrown
Speaker 3: at me like left and right, and I was just
Speaker 3: like and then like I also like being the kind
Speaker 3: of person I was. I was like, I don't want
Speaker 3: to just like tell everyone about this like note that
Speaker 3: I've received, because like I actually don't know the purpose
Speaker 3: of the note, so like I don't I don't want
Speaker 3: to make it into.
Speaker 2: Something more than it actually is.
Speaker 3: I was like, and even then, as I'm like talking
Speaker 3: to Friesa, I'm like, I don't want her to think that,
Speaker 3: like Bri, what if I don't actually like it's my
Speaker 3: feeling that something sneaky is happening happening right now, but
Speaker 3: I actually don't know, So like who would I be
Speaker 3: to be the person to be like, you know, Brian
Speaker 3: sent me a secret rendezvous and you know, I'm talking
Speaker 3: to my friend and I just didn't want to like
Speaker 3: add to whatever they had going on and like make
Speaker 3: it worse. I was like, I really need to process this,
Speaker 3: and like I need to talk to Jeremy about this
Speaker 3: because I also like don't want it seemed like I'm
Speaker 3: being sneaky, Like I feel like the worst thing you
Speaker 3: can do a paradise is like be portrayed as being
Speaker 3: sneaky like and I was like, and I'm just not
Speaker 3: that kind of so I was just like I need
Speaker 3: to be like really open and honest and really processed
Speaker 3: this like note first, and then I can go into
Speaker 3: other things and then obviously like Brian and Brees to
Speaker 3: talk about it. And you know, I'm glad because I
Speaker 3: think me immediately going off and telling everyone of being.
Speaker 2: Like Brian gave me this note, Brian did this, this
Speaker 2: is and.
Speaker 3: This, and like I think it would have made things
Speaker 3: like a thousand times worse and really.
Speaker 2: Would have been a big blow up.
Speaker 3: And even after Brian told me about it, like I
Speaker 3: tried to really address it to Jeremy, not in a
Speaker 3: sense of like Brian told me this, you know, at
Speaker 3: that point everyone knew but me, So really it's like.
Speaker 2: Everyone told me.
Speaker 3: In my head, I'm like everyone told me because they
Speaker 3: didn't tell me it was it's really like hard, it's
Speaker 3: hard to watch this majority of the season has been
Speaker 3: a hard watch for me.
Speaker 1: You're joying it, but yeah, I mean you're you're going
Speaker 1: through it, So I feel for you for sure, because
Speaker 1: you are. It's not an easy experience. And I feel
Speaker 1: like Jeremy calling Susie as much as like that sucks,
Speaker 1: and like I feel like you can get over something
Speaker 1: like that because you guys were still very early on
Speaker 1: in your relationship, like he he fucked up. He didn't
Speaker 1: tell you, Like that's a huge mistake on his part,
Speaker 1: and but it's like it was early on. Emotions were everywhere.
Speaker 1: He spiraled, he freaked out, and he had a bad moment.
Speaker 1: But now we're like a couple more episodes in and
Speaker 1: then like you know, he tells Brian in his room,
Speaker 1: like I like something like I would still get engaged
Speaker 1: to Susie or whatever the fuck, or like I still
Speaker 1: like I still have feelings for Susie. How does that
Speaker 1: sit with you? Because it feels like you're, at least
Speaker 1: from what we're seeing, your relationship has progressed since the
Speaker 1: moment he called Susie. And then it's like weeks later
Speaker 1: he still kind of says that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think you question like the seriousness of
Speaker 4: your relationship and where he stands in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like watching it back, so it's like obviously the
Speaker 3: phone all happened week three, and then going into week four,
Speaker 3: I think it's like maybe that's like day nine of
Speaker 3: Paradise and hearing those comments, it's like never nice because
Speaker 3: you know how you're feeling in that moment, like in
Speaker 3: the moment, I'm like, you know, I'm feeling so happy,
Speaker 3: I'm feeling locked in. I'm feeling like we're really growing
Speaker 3: as a strong couple, and I feel like my I
Speaker 3: actually think in the moment, if I would have just
Speaker 3: known that there were like all these doubts, it wouldn't
Speaker 3: be like as big of a deal. We would have
Speaker 3: just been able to like have these conversations, and I
Speaker 3: wouldn't necessarily watch it back and be like, oh, that's
Speaker 3: like the worst feeling.
Speaker 2: Ever, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And it's hard because, like I'm also someone if there
Speaker 3: was like moments where I was having doubt, I would
Speaker 3: just internally process those.
Speaker 2: I know, I'm on TV, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I know that I'm gonna watch back some of these things,
Speaker 3: and the last thing I want to do is like
Speaker 3: talk out of my character. I obviously like can't say
Speaker 3: if that was talking out of it, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, Like in the moment, maybe he's just like
Speaker 3: having a conversation with his dudes. But that was like
Speaker 3: horrible to watch back, you know, it was hard to process.
Speaker 3: It was like week four, and yes, we were progressing
Speaker 3: in our relationship. I also think like it's hard because
Speaker 3: in normal parent at this point, we don't know that
Speaker 3: it's a competition, you know, we don't know that there's
Speaker 3: not people coming in. So in normal paradise, I think
Speaker 3: that there's moments where you have like little doubts in
Speaker 3: your relationship and I wish that we would have just
Speaker 3: had a conversation about it. I actually like, and I
Speaker 3: think we see this like coming off the morning after
Speaker 3: me finding out about the phone call, Like it wasn't
Speaker 3: the issue of the phone call, Like I didn't think
Speaker 3: that that was that big of an issue. It was
Speaker 3: more the issue of not knowing that the phone call
Speaker 3: had happened, and then even worse, everyone else knowing about
Speaker 3: the phone call, because it could have just been like
Speaker 3: so squashed. It didn't have to be like something that
Speaker 3: took over this entire season, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: something that like dragged on for me. And it's really
Speaker 3: hard to process that. Like I think I'm still processing
Speaker 3: it every week because I just remember how I'm feeling
Speaker 3: in the moment, and I'm remembering our conversation and they
Speaker 3: were amazing because obviously, why would we progress to this
Speaker 3: moment and this time if like we weren't like really
Speaker 3: liking each other and like even on our date, like
Speaker 3: our date was amazing, that was like my best That's
Speaker 3: my best first day I've ever had, like in my
Speaker 3: entire life. And I feel like we just got to
Speaker 3: get really deep, and I mean, I know how I felt,
Speaker 3: So I feel like I just kind of have to
Speaker 3: be like, Okay, I just have to be like what
Speaker 3: I mean, what can I really do? Like it kind
Speaker 3: of happened, and I wish that we would have had
Speaker 3: time to talk about it in the moment or like
Speaker 3: him just talk to me about it and be like, hey,
Speaker 3: like I'm going to be honest, like I really like you,
Speaker 3: but I'm also like still having these like things of
Speaker 3: doubts and maybe we could have like talked about it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's really horrible watching it back, honestly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So you know, it's obviously it's tough watching
Speaker 1: all the people that are you're close with know something
Speaker 1: about you and not tell you. And I get some
Speaker 1: of the reasoning is they're also friends with Jeremy. If
Speaker 1: the Roles war reversed and this was happening to Alex,
Speaker 1: do you think you would have what the way your
Speaker 1: relationship is do you think you would have told her.
Speaker 3: Like a thousand percent, I would have not even like
Speaker 3: that night, I would have come back and I would
Speaker 3: have talked to her about that.
Speaker 2: That's just the kind of person that.
Speaker 3: I am, Like, I hold like my friendships to a
Speaker 3: really high standard. It doesn't mean that I don't I
Speaker 3: hold the person that I'm like talking to and dating
Speaker 3: to a high standard. But I feel like if anyone
Speaker 3: should have my back, it should be my friends, because really, like,
Speaker 3: no shade, but like, what is this guy that I've
Speaker 3: known for three.
Speaker 2: Weeks owe me? Do you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 2: what does he owe to me?
Speaker 3: Like my friends that I've come close with that I'm
Speaker 3: confiding and that I'm like, you know, and I'm sharing
Speaker 3: to them how deep I'm getting into our relationship and
Speaker 3: how deep I'm feeling. And I feel like the first
Speaker 3: thing my first thought would have been like, Okay, I
Speaker 3: like me to tell you about this, like immediately, and
Speaker 3: then kind of finding out about all the girls that
Speaker 3: I also got so close with there also kind of
Speaker 3: finding out I just like don't understand why no one
Speaker 3: told me. I think maybe I know I didn't want
Speaker 3: to know about his date with Susie. But like, I
Speaker 3: think it was very clear that I didn't know about
Speaker 3: the phone call, and so I don't know, maybe people
Speaker 3: didn't want to ruin like a good thing going on.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's really hard.
Speaker 3: Everyone's in on a joke and you're not in on it,
Speaker 3: and it kind of felt like, you know, my love
Speaker 3: life is like unfortunately the joke that everyone's in on. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm just like a bystander. Just you know, I'm back
Speaker 3: in Bailey World and there's like bombs being thrown at it.
Speaker 2: You know, I have no idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just like knowing the kind of person I am,
Speaker 3: like I wouldn't have maybe told everyone, because I think
Speaker 3: everyone probably wouldn't have known. I would have just like
Speaker 3: told you know, that person, like directly. I would have
Speaker 3: just told her like we're sharing a room every single
Speaker 3: night together, and so yeah, that's how I would have acted. Obviously,
Speaker 3: I understand there's like she's friends with Jeremy and that's hard,
Speaker 3: but like I also like, do like really ride or
Speaker 3: die for my girls? So like when you become my,
Speaker 3: I felt like we were all so close there. We
Speaker 3: spent every single day together, you know, I really felt
Speaker 3: so close to these people, and like that's why, like
Speaker 3: even sending home Gary and Leslie was so hard for me,
Speaker 3: because I had just gotten so close to Gary and
Speaker 3: Leslie and it literally felt like I was like killing them,
Speaker 3: Like that's what it felt like for me. I was like,
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm literally throwing them off a cliff
Speaker 3: and ending their paradise time. And so I feel like
Speaker 3: that's why I was also like so emotional. I think
Speaker 3: that's what kind of also made the phone call hit
Speaker 3: even harder, because it was just like I would have
Speaker 3: liked someone that, you know, I was very connected to
Speaker 3: to tell me, for Jeremy and for all my friends,
Speaker 3: and so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, and then quick last question before we got
Speaker 4: to let you go. Why do you think that everyone
Speaker 4: villainized Brian for telling you? It felt like everyone was
Speaker 4: collectively mad and felt betrayed by Brian, and we're almost
Speaker 4: like we got to get him out of here, when
Speaker 4: I'm sure from your perspective, you're like, I'm actually so
Speaker 4: happy he did that, and I feel a greater sense
Speaker 4: of trust towards Brian.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, I mean, like the only one that the
Speaker 1: only one that it makes sense who would be upset
Speaker 1: with Brian would be Jeremy, because Jeremy's I told you
Speaker 1: you shouldn't send anything, but he did.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 4: But I mean we see Spencer, a little bit of Andrew,
Speaker 4: a lot of Cat and Dale basically saying like, we
Speaker 4: can't trust this person. But from my perspective, it's like, well,
Speaker 4: he you actually can trust him because if someone's doing something,
Speaker 4: you know that feels shady to him, he's going to
Speaker 4: be honest with you about it. Can you just give
Speaker 4: us a little bit of insight into that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think the thing is I see both sides. I
Speaker 3: am so grateful that Brian told me. I would have
Speaker 3: hated to like come off of this and then have
Speaker 3: this conversation and be like, oh I went through this
Speaker 3: entire season and not known that this happened and these
Speaker 3: comments are made.
Speaker 2: I would have literally been distraught.
Speaker 3: Obviously was still really it's still really hard processing every
Speaker 3: single episode. I think it's going to take me a
Speaker 3: while to like really you know, process it all. But
Speaker 3: in regards like everyone kind of like going against Brian.
Speaker 3: Obviously earlier that night when I thought he was being
Speaker 3: really sneaky, I was like, no, like, you know, Brian's
Speaker 3: got to go. He's being sneaky and then learning that
Speaker 3: he wasn't. I was so thankful and grateful to him,
Speaker 3: and I kind of wish that people would have seen that.
Speaker 3: You know, maybe you guys should have just told me
Speaker 3: and we wouldn't have had to get to this moment
Speaker 3: where like people are scared they're going to go home,
Speaker 3: and like I felt like the reason Brian told me
Speaker 3: is because he was slightly scared, Like, you know, he
Speaker 3: could have gone home the week before, and he was like,
Speaker 3: I didn't want to leave knowing that no one was
Speaker 3: going to tell you, or knowing that people were going
Speaker 3: to wait to tell you. And I had and I
Speaker 3: knew this and I didn't tell you, and so I
Speaker 3: you know, he expressed that to me in that moment too.
Speaker 3: And I think it's like a mix of things like obviously,
Speaker 3: you know he's had some freak out moments. I think
Speaker 3: people are also like the girls know about the freak
Speaker 3: out in the pool and things like that.
Speaker 2: I don't maybe freak out, it's not the threat word,
Speaker 2: but you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So I think it's like a double edged sword. They're like,
Speaker 3: can we trust you? Also, these things are kind of happening.
Speaker 3: I kind of wish that people would have just listened
Speaker 3: to me and been like, guys, like, I'm not mad
Speaker 3: at Brian, like him and Freese's relationship. That's a different
Speaker 3: thing if you guys are voting based off that, like
Speaker 3: that's what it is. I understand Jeremy feeling like he
Speaker 3: broke broad code, but I'm also really still obviously I'm
Speaker 3: grateful to Brian in that moment because I was just like, well,
Speaker 3: no one's gonna tell me, and I would have hated
Speaker 3: not knowing about that. So it's kind of hard. It's like,
Speaker 3: you know, what can you do with like at that
Speaker 3: timely moment. But I think everyone like also, like to
Speaker 3: be fair, we really didn't have that much like drama
Speaker 3: going on, so it did feel just like boom, like
Speaker 3: so intense like when And that's why I kind of
Speaker 3: didn't want everyone to know that he told me. And
Speaker 3: then I think it kind of like got out, but
Speaker 3: like I didn't tell anyone that he told me, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, And I made it seem like
Speaker 3: he was coming to me to talk about Parsa.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was kind of hard.
Speaker 3: That was, and I mean, you know, him and Paresa's
Speaker 3: relationship and everyone voting like or whatever.
Speaker 2: That's a different thing.
Speaker 3: But I understand the guys like perspective, and I also
Speaker 3: understand my perspective. And I think in that moment, everyone
Speaker 3: should have really thought about like my feelings and not
Speaker 3: about maybe how betrayed you feel, because imagine how betrayed
Speaker 3: I feel. You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's like part I mean, I'm.
Speaker 3: Not going to talk about Brian's character and stuff, but
Speaker 3: like I was obviously still and I say this, and
Speaker 3: like my item, I say, like I say this, and like,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm glad that he told me, Like I
Speaker 3: think it's something that I need to know.
Speaker 2: I wish it was sooner than later, but you know.
Speaker 4: Or it happened, I would.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I you know, I agree with everything
Speaker 1: you're saying. And I think, like one hundred percent everyone
Speaker 1: should have, like if they're feeling betrayed, like think about
Speaker 1: how trade you must feel in that moment, and like,
Speaker 1: I think everyone should have just went with what you said.
Speaker 1: Like at that point, it's like now it is Bailey's world. Motherfuckers,
Speaker 1: Like listen to what I have to say, and that's
Speaker 1: that's gonna be. But the season's not over. For you.
Speaker 1: I hope it turns around because you're lovely and it's
Speaker 1: really uh, it's tough to watch, but I think, uh,
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be good for you. But what
Speaker 1: do I know?
Speaker 4: Tuning in to see.
Speaker 1: And thank you Bailey for coming on Batchelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 2: Thank you guys, bye, of.
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