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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Welcome back to bed your Happy Hour. I'm

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Speaker 1: Joe and I'm Serena and we are here today with Bailey.

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Speaker 1: Bailey Welcome. We're so excited to have you. Our listeners

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Speaker 1: really want to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, Hi, guys, I'm so excited to be here.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm good.

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Speaker 3: I just got back from Europe and I'm honestly just

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Speaker 3: like getting back into the swing of things.

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Speaker 2: So no complaints over here.

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Speaker 1: Nice. Nice, Okay, So you were on Grant season pretty quickly,

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Speaker 1: but you stood out to us because we talked about

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Speaker 1: you a lot, and I remember thinking like, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you're going to end up with Grant. I

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Speaker 1: couldn't really get a feel for whoever was going to

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Speaker 1: end up with Grant, but I was like, you are

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Speaker 1: you are definitely someone that I think will be in Paradise.

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Speaker 4: And were you surprised when they asked you?

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I feel like after coming off of Paradise, it

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Speaker 3: makes sense, like I kind of feel like, you know,

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Speaker 3: it was all meant to happen for a reason. I

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Speaker 3: think everyone was like a little up in the air about,

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Speaker 3: you know, if they were going on Paradise. What was happening.

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Speaker 3: I think we all kind of found out pretty late,

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Speaker 3: but I was really happy. Honestly, when they asked me,

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Speaker 3: I feel like it would have definitely like it was

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Speaker 3: more my speed.

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Speaker 2: I definitely feel like I got more time.

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Speaker 3: To just like be myself and it was still stressful,

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Speaker 3: but I still like.

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Speaker 2: Really enjoyed my experience.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I feel like, you know, everything happens for

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Speaker 3: a reason, and my time on Grant season was short.

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Speaker 3: I literally got sent home on like week three, but

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Speaker 3: you know, it all was a part of a bigger

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Speaker 3: plan for me to go to Paradise, So I think

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Speaker 3: that's really awesome.

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Speaker 4: Did you watch the show before going on Grant season?

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Speaker 2: Honestly, like not really.

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Speaker 3: I think the last time I watched was Hannah season

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Speaker 3: because we are friends and so that's really the last

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Speaker 3: time I watched.

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Speaker 2: Like a full season like till the end.

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Speaker 4: Gana g.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the last time I've like really watched a season,

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Speaker 3: And even going into it, I didn't even watch, Like

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Speaker 3: I think I watched the finale of Joey's season and

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Speaker 3: I watched when Grant got sent home, and that was

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Speaker 2: Just like I was like, I think I've got like

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Speaker 2: a good fix.

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Speaker 3: Like when I was in a sorority, we used to

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Speaker 3: like do Bachelor Mondays and watch them all together. But

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Speaker 3: that was like when Hannah was on. So that's really

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Speaker 3: the last season that I watched.

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Speaker 4: Had you seen Paradise before?

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Speaker 3: No, I actually had not seen Paradise, So when she

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Speaker 3: was on Paradise, I like only very briefly watched years ago,

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Speaker 3: and then before I think I watched some. I watched

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Speaker 3: the first three episodes of season eight, and then I

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Speaker 3: realized that, like whatever I was thinking of outfits is

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Speaker 3: going to be totally different. So I was just like,

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Speaker 3: I really watched it so I could plan my outfits,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, it's going to be a totally

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Speaker 3: different season. So whatever really like happens on this Paradise

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Speaker 3: isn't really gonna like help me. So I was like,

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Speaker 3: It's also the last of episodes, honestly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, going into going into Paradise, who are your friends

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Speaker 1: from Grant season and what guys are you interested in

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Speaker 1: meeting if any?

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Speaker 3: So going into Paradise, Zoe and I were really good

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Speaker 3: friends from Grant season, Prisa and I share a best friend,

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Speaker 3: so I kind of knew all the girls from my

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Speaker 3: season that were going. I'm friends with Ali Joe, I

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Speaker 3: was friends with Alex. Like Alex and I weren't as

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Speaker 3: close on Grant Season, but we definitely like built our

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Speaker 3: So I was really happy to like have Zoe there

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Speaker 3: Maybe they would have not liked but they saw on

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Speaker 3: Grant Season. I don't know, they could be anti selfie takers.

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Speaker 3: I feel like you just never really know these days.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I think I kind of knew the guys,

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Speaker 3: but really, I haven't had enough time in like Bachelor

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Speaker 1: I like.

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Speaker 3: Very briefly met a few of the guys from Gen

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Speaker 3: season for maybe thirty seconds at the time. Tell all,

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Speaker 3: So I really went into it like having no preconceived

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Speaker 2: I was like excited to meet, per se.

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Speaker 3: I had like a list of people that I just

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Speaker 3: you know, glanced at their pages and I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I feel like they seem cool.

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Speaker 3: But I really didn't know anyone, which I feel like

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Speaker 3: I think it just allowed me to like feel really

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Speaker 2: I was just kind of like being honestly.

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Speaker 4: We see you get down there and you kind of

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Speaker 4: immediately enter this soft love triangle with Jeremy and Kyle.

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Speaker 4: Tell us about those two connections and your first impressions

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I went on the beach and

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Speaker 3: I was just honestly like, oh, I hope someone's like

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Speaker 3: I knew that Jeremy was going to be there, but

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Speaker 3: we like had only briefly met, like for five seconds

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Speaker 2: So I feel like, you know, I think they both.

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Speaker 3: Surprised me because I wasn't expecting to like talk to

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Speaker 3: And I feel like when I was having conversations with

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Speaker 3: so yeah, it was definitely a weird feeling for me

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Speaker 3: So but I also wanted to come into Paradise just

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you you end up choosing Jeremy, which seems

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Speaker 1: like it's the correct decision for you and for him.

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Speaker 1: What is your relationship like after you pick him? Prior

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Speaker 1: to Susie coming onto the show? Where do you guys, Like,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I feel like we were pretty like

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Speaker 2: Like I feel like I felt in a really good

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Speaker 3: I feel like That's also why I was really calm

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Speaker 3: I knew Susie was coming, I didn't know that Jill

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Speaker 1: Have to kind of be like, well, I mean I

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Speaker 1: like week two's early, right, Like yeah, if you if

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Speaker 1: we're only you know, it's really only like three three

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Speaker 2: Well, so their date was like right before Rose ceremony.

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Speaker 3: So while they were on their date, I was like

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Speaker 2: Like maybe I will be going home tonight. I really

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Speaker 3: Like while I was packing, after I was dressed, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like our conversation the next morning, like

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, well things are happening so fast too,

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, you want to take me on

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Speaker 3: The whole point of Paradise is that you go on dates,

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Speaker 2: And so I was just like, I mean, yeah, I

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Speaker 3: I've honestly never been on a one on one So

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Speaker 3: I was like, this would be fun, Like you know,

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Speaker 2: And so you know, that's how I went into it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting because when he told you about his date,

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Speaker 4: Did that contribute to, like your shock when he reacted

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Speaker 3: It's not that I like felt swayed about his emotion.

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Speaker 3: And I mean he's normally a very like calm headed

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Speaker 3: person what I've learned about him in these two weeks.

441
00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,480
Speaker 3: So I was just like, oh, I you know, I

442
00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,120
Speaker 3: wasn't really thinking it was going to be a thing

443
00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,320
Speaker 3: because I was like, I think he'll be calm about it,

444
00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,880
Speaker 3: and you know, but it's also it's a really high pressure,

445
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,440
Speaker 3: high intent situation, like you're really having to like process

446
00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,359
Speaker 3: your emotions in paradise. You don't have a phone, you

447
00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 3: don't have like you can't call your mom, like you

448
00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,199
Speaker 3: you really you have to process and be one with

449
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:43,280
Speaker 3: your emotions, and sometimes it just like it's skyrockets and

450
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,240
Speaker 3: it's like and I was definitely taken aback by that.

451
00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,760
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, crap, Like he's really upset. I

452
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,720
Speaker 3: was not expecting him to be upset so I think

453
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,040
Speaker 3: that also really threw me off.

454
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:59,600
Speaker 1: I am an immature person. At times. I would have said,

455
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,399
Speaker 1: what the fuck you went on a date, you know,

456
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 1: fifteen hours ago. Why is it an issue if I

457
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,879
Speaker 1: now go on a date. Did you ever think that

458
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 1: or ever say that?

459
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 4: Was that ever a kind of it would have been

460
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 4: like I'm actually going to go date everyone on the

461
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:16,880
Speaker 4: speech now.

462
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 2: No, I just don't date I meaning everyone like I.

463
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, Like it would be like if this

464
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 1: was like, you know, two weeks after and you guys

465
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 1: kind of were more locked down and he was like visibly,

466
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,200
Speaker 1: then I would get it more. But because he had

467
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 1: just went on a date in such a short period

468
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,680
Speaker 1: of time, it does seem just very hypocritical.

469
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And looking back, there's like two sides.

470
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,400
Speaker 3: So it's like obviously the night before, like I expressed

471
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 3: to him that like I was really only focused on him,

472
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,200
Speaker 3: and really I was like I wasn't really like I

473
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 3: didn't really have like at that moment, like I had

474
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 3: conversations with everyone, and like it was like him and I,

475
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,119
Speaker 3: like after going after Rose Serram, I was like, you know,

476
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 3: there's not anyone I'm interested in, and like coming in

477
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 3: I really didn't have Andrew on my radar, so it

478
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,160
Speaker 3: wasn't even like I was like, I hope Andrew takes

479
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 3: me on the date, you know. I was kind of

480
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 3: just like, oh, I'm shocked that you want to take

481
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 3: me on the date, because I was also like, there's

482
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 3: other people that aren't coupled up, and so like that

483
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 3: was a lot to process, and I think in the moment,

484
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 3: I couldn't even be like, wait, I just went on

485
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 3: the date.

486
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,199
Speaker 2: But I think in some of the conversation I was like,

487
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,400
Speaker 2: you know, I just went on a date.

488
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 3: You just went on a date yesterday. I didn't think

489
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 3: it was going to be a big deal for me

490
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 3: to go on the date, And at that moment, I

491
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 3: couldn't even really react and be like I'm angry, you know.

492
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 3: I was just more like, oh, I'm worried about your feelings,

493
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 3: and I was like very emotionally thrown off. So I

494
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 3: think it was more just it was just like a

495
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 3: caught off guard moment. I feel like that's what paradise is.

496
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,679
Speaker 3: But it's like sometimes you don't even have time to

497
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 3: like think in an angry matter, because like you don't

498
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 3: have time to really process it. It was like i'd

499
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 3: process going on the date. I has a talk to Jeremy.

500
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 3: I'm leaving for the date. You know, it's so quick.

501
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 3: So I think that's why probably after like I left,

502
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 3: he had all this time, you know, to sit and

503
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 3: think about me going on the date, and I really

504
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 3: didn't have to. I was like, I just have to

505
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,239
Speaker 3: be in the moment on my date, and then like

506
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 3: later I can reflect back on this moment and think

507
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 3: about how I'm feeling and how things go on, and

508
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 3: we can have a conversation about it.

509
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, so we see we see Jeremy somewhat spiral,

510
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 1: which you know, he is getting a lot of heat

511
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: for that, but like I do get it, Like you're

512
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 1: in this situation, you spiral a little bit. He calls

513
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 1: Susie bold move, but he does it. But when he

514
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 1: gets back, or when you get back from the date,

515
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: you end up choosing Jeremy and not Andrew. Does Jeremy

516
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: ever address the fact that, like, hey, like I overreact it,

517
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 1: like you know, like or even explain why he was

518
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 1: upset that you went on the date, Like why is

519
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: he that upset over it?

520
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

521
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 4: Is there a conversation that kind of closes that out.

522
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,360
Speaker 3: So the conversation like after the date, I obviously don't

523
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 3: have time to see Jeremy.

524
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 2: It's late.

525
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 3: So we come back from the date, we go to sleep,

526
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 3: I wake up the morning, the first person I want

527
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 3: to see is obviously Jeremy. So we have like this

528
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 3: moment where I discussed like the date, you know, I

529
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 3: was like, do you want to know about the date?

530
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 3: Like all these things, and I let him know that like, yes,

531
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 3: I had a good time on the date, and like,

532
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,719
Speaker 3: I'm glad I went on the date, but ultimately, like

533
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 3: I'm focused in on this, and I think where in

534
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 3: that moment at least where he told me were his

535
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 3: feelings of like you know, where he was upset. He

536
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 3: just like felt like I was maybe being dishonest with

537
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 3: him because like I had said that I was really

538
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 3: locked into him, which in that moment I understood. I

539
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 3: was like, yes, I still don't think it was like

540
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 3: worth the freak out, just because like I was so calm,

541
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 3: but also like at this point I've only known him

542
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 3: for three weeks, so I actually really don't know how

543
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,479
Speaker 3: he processes, you know, intense moments like that, and I

544
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,959
Speaker 3: wasn't going to hold him too it either like his reaction,

545
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 3: I was going to be like, oh, this reaction was

546
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 3: so out of left field, like we're done, you know,

547
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 3: that's that's too much like worst. We're in this like

548
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 3: pressure cooker of intensity. So I feel like and there's

549
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 3: moments like where my first thought isn't always to like

550
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 3: choose anger. My first thought is like usually crying, so

551
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 3: like when I'm frustrated, when I'm overwhelmed. So I feel

552
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 3: like also every single person kind of reacts differently. But

553
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 3: we did have a conversation and I was like, I'm

554
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 3: sorry if I misled like my words the night before.

555
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 3: I just really wasn't thinking that he was going to

556
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 3: take me on the date. And that's really where a

557
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 3: majority of like our conversation was about. Was just like,

558
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 3: you know, I'm sorry for this, and he was like

559
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have really acted that way, and like, yeah,

560
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: it was. It was like a tough it was a

561
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 3: tough wash like that night and like going into that morning. Obviously,

562
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 3: I think in hindsight, I didn't know about the phone call,

563
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 3: so I wish that that morning would have been just

564
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 3: like a moment where he was just like yeah and like, ah, yeah,

565
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 3: I did actually spiral, and I did you know, fully

566
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 3: let loose? And I called Susie, and I think it

567
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 3: would have been easily squashed and it not turned into

568
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 3: this whole thing, but it was. It was a tough

569
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 3: like you're also like trying to shove so many things down,

570
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 3: you know, like I don't have a phone where I

571
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 3: can make a notes list and be like let me

572
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 3: touch on this, on why this, and you know, reflecting back.

573
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: On this, and.

574
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 3: So you really are just like having all these conversations

575
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 3: in all these thoughts based off what's going on in

576
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 3: your head.

577
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have one question, then we'll jump into the

578
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 4: meat of it this week's episode. Do you think, just hypothetically,

579
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 4: if at the cocktail party someone had said tomorrow, Andrew's

580
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 4: gonna come down and take Bailey on a date and

581
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 4: she's gonna go on it, do you think he would

582
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 4: have given Susie his rose?

583
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 2: That's hard.

584
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:51,719
Speaker 3: I feel like maybe honestly, because like at that point,

585
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 3: like we didn't obviously knowing Susie, like she wasn't gonna

586
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 3: go on the date with Andrew because they're friends and

587
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 3: he's friends with her ex boyfriend. So I think it

588
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 3: would have definitely changed things if we obviously could have

589
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 3: like looked into the future and seeing, yeah, like Andrew's

590
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 3: gonna come in and like ask Bailey out a date,

591
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 3: because like you know, there's also moments it's like you

592
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: know certain people are coming in at some time, and

593
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 3: so it's kind of like do I pick this person

594
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: knowing that someone else really wants them? And it's like

595
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 3: it's even like with honestly, like Ali Joe and Sam,

596
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 3: like you know, we kind of knew that they would

597
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 3: be a good match for each other. So it's also

598
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 3: like you're taking that risk of giving your rose to

599
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 3: someone knowing that maybe someone they could be interested in

600
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 3: or someone that like has them top Like you know

601
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 3: what I mean, it's like you kind of and the

602
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 3: point of paradise is like, yes, like I'm I'm a person.

603
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about everyone's feelings and like the bigger picture

604
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 3: and like you know, I'm thinking about your feelings how

605
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 3: you're processing this, But you also have to think about

606
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 3: yourself when you're in paradise, So like every decision you're

607
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 3: making is based on like what's gonna have the best

608
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 3: outcome for you? And so like honestly, if he probably

609
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 3: would have known that like Andrew was coming down, maybe

610
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 3: he would have picked Susie, even though not knowing the

611
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 3: outcome of what I mean, I.

612
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: Mean odds, odds, he probably would because his odds are

613
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: probably be like, why risks, why risk would you know this?

614
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: But anyways, okay, okay, so let's get we'll get into

615
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: this episode where things get get crazy.

616
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, because obviously as viewers, we're seeing everything that you're

617
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 4: not seeing. So we're seeing him spiral, We're seeing him

618
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 4: call Susie, We're seeing these private chats that he thinks

619
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 4: are private chats with Brian and him in the bedroom

620
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,719
Speaker 4: talking about I don't want to win this competition with Bailey,

621
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 4: I don't want to go to the VIP suite with Bailey.

622
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 4: I miss Susie. So this, as an audience member is

623
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 4: a big build up moment because we are waiting for

624
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 4: that day where you learn what we know that Jeremy

625
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 4: has been saying and doing. I would not have expected

626
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 4: it to be Brian to be the one to step

627
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 4: up to do this. However, he's the guy in this episode.

628
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 4: We see he says and multiple times in interviews, how

629
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 4: much he likes you, how much he cares about you,

630
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 4: and yes, there's a sense of like there's this new

631
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 4: competition element, but it does really seem like his conscience

632
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 4: is kind of playing a role. He's you know, we

633
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 4: see all the confusion of he's asks you for a

634
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 4: private chat, you think he's pursuing you. It's like, you know,

635
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 4: a little bit of a mess. And then finally you're like,

636
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 4: I don't want to date Brian. What is going on? Finally,

637
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 4: you guys sit down and he kind of tells you

638
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 4: everything that we as viewers have been waiting for you

639
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 4: to learn. How did that moment feel and what was

640
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 4: going through your mind?

641
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: So much is going through my mind, I mean honestly,

642
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: like I'm also unfortunately watching it back with you guys,

643
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: and that sucks.

644
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: It's kind of like, you know, you're like watching the

645
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: You're watching something go on, and you're like, I had

646
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 2: no idea these things were happening.

647
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: It is.

648
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: It's really hard.

649
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 3: You're just like, oh my god, Like you know, I

650
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: was just like, honestly in La La land, Like I

651
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 3: just feel like I was just like it's Bailey's world,

652
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: Like I'm just in Bailey's world and I'm just living

653
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 3: in the moment.

654
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: And then you're watching back and you're like, oh, I'm

655
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: watching everyone else's.

656
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: World and it's not.

657
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 3: Thought.

658
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: It was, Oh, it's.

659
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 4: Not my world.

660
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: It's actually really not my world.

661
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: I'm actually living in everyone else's world and I'm just

662
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 3: like a random.

663
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: But it was, yeah, like, here's the thing.

664
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 3: I do think that Brian was coming from a genuine place.

665
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: I think that getting into this competition aspect, I still think,

666
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 3: you know, there's always there's even if it is coming

667
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: from a genuine place, there's still way it can be

668
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 3: beneficial to you.

669
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?

670
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 3: But I still felt like Brian was coming from a

671
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: genuine place, and like he really expressed that in our conversation.

672
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: Do I wish that he would have done it in

673
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: the secret rendezvous way? No, because that caught me really

674
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: off guard, and I think anyone that knows me, I'm like,

675
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: I'm a taurist, I'm a super loyal person.

676
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: So like I was just like, oh, whoa, No, Like.

677
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 3: I was like absolutely not, Like I didn't know that

678
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 3: that was the point of the conversation. I was like,

679
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: I'm not about to have a secret rendezvous with you,

680
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 3: because like that's insane work.

681
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: Like I would I'm not that I'm not gonna step

682
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: out of.

683
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 3: My character just because like maybe you have something to

684
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: tell me, Like I'm like, tell it to me at breakfast,

685
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 3: Like what is this gonna change? Like I was like,

686
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 3: you can't have this conversation with me in front of anyone,

687
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: like at that moment. I'm also obviously the last person

688
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: to know, so I had no idea that this is

689
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: the purpose of the conversation. I had no idea why

690
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 3: he wanted to have the secret rendezvous. And the whole

691
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 3: point of secret rendezvous is like so maybe you're like

692
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 3: seeing who else you're compatible with and all these things,

693
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 3: And I was just like, oh, this is just like

694
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 3: not something I'm interested in, like you know, because like

695
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 3: I have chosen Jeremy, He's chosen me, So like that's

696
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 3: where my head was. I was like, we also just

697
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 3: had like an insanely fun one on one date last week,

698
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 3: so like why would why would anyone even think that

699
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 3: I would do a secret rendezvous. I'm still We're really

700
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: grateful to Brian for telling me. It was such a

701
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: shitty feeling, like knowing that I was the last person

702
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: to like find out about this and every other person

703
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 3: knew about it, like in the grand scheme of things,

704
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 3: Like I just wish that Jeremy would have told me.

705
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 3: I don't know where like his mind is at the

706
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 3: time as to why he didn't tell me, or maybe

707
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 3: things were going so good he didn't want to like

708
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: you know.

709
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: Dampen the mood.

710
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 3: And I will say like I was very emotionally like upset,

711
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 3: like coming off of having to send Gary and Leslie home,

712
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 3: Like my emotions were just like out of whack. And

713
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: so when Brian told me, it like really set me

714
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 3: off emotionally, like I just like shut down. I was

715
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: just like it felt like everything had just been like

716
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 3: building up for what we're in week like I don't

717
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,479
Speaker 3: know this week six, week five, and I was just

718
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: like I'm like I'm done, Like I was like I'm out,

719
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: like this is this is too much for me, Like

720
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: I don't even care about the five hundred thousand dollars

721
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 3: at this point because like emotionally I'm drained, like I'm

722
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: at I'm on e like I can't take it anymore.

723
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: And I just wish that, like I don't know some

724
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 3: of my friends would have told me, because like I

725
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 3: just feel like, you know, in my head, like, yes,

726
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 3: Jeremy should have been the person to tell me, and

727
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 3: then secondly my friend should have told me. So it's

728
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: like kind of hard because you're going down the chain

729
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: of people that you wish would have told you before

730
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: you got to Brian telling you. And that was really

731
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: hard because that just totally threw me off. And the

732
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: Secret rendezvouth every it was like every single week, I

733
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: was just being thrown off honestly, like I was caught

734
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 3: off guard every single day of Paradise and that's a

735
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 3: really like crazy feeling.

736
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: And that was just a really.

737
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 3: Insane day for me because I was just like I

738
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 3: was tired from the challenge. I was like, oh, I'm

739
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 3: excited to like see Jeremy now we've you know, we

740
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: were all separate, separate for the challenge. It's like, you know,

741
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: we're doing this, We're doing our compatibility challenge and things

742
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: like that.

743
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: And so going into just the.

744
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 3: Night like where we would all hang out, like I

745
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 3: got ready that I got served with the Secret Rendezvous note,

746
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: I'm just like, whoaf Like these things are being thrown

747
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: at me like left and right, and I was just

748
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 3: like and then like I also like being the kind

749
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 3: of person I was. I was like, I don't want

750
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 3: to just like tell everyone about this like note that

751
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: I've received, because like I actually don't know the purpose

752
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: of the note, so like I don't I don't want

753
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 3: to make it into.

754
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: Something more than it actually is.

755
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: I was like, and even then, as I'm like talking

756
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 3: to Friesa, I'm like, I don't want her to think that,

757
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 3: like Bri, what if I don't actually like it's my

758
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: feeling that something sneaky is happening happening right now, but

759
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: I actually don't know, So like who would I be

760
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 3: to be the person to be like, you know, Brian

761
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: sent me a secret rendezvous and you know, I'm talking

762
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 3: to my friend and I just didn't want to like

763
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: add to whatever they had going on and like make

764
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 3: it worse. I was like, I really need to process this,

765
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 3: and like I need to talk to Jeremy about this

766
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 3: because I also like don't want it seemed like I'm

767
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 3: being sneaky, Like I feel like the worst thing you

768
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: can do a paradise is like be portrayed as being

769
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 3: sneaky like and I was like, and I'm just not

770
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 3: that kind of so I was just like I need

771
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 3: to be like really open and honest and really processed

772
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 3: this like note first, and then I can go into

773
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 3: other things and then obviously like Brian and Brees to

774
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 3: talk about it. And you know, I'm glad because I

775
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 3: think me immediately going off and telling everyone of being.

776
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: Like Brian gave me this note, Brian did this, this

777
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 2: is and.

778
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 3: This, and like I think it would have made things

779
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 3: like a thousand times worse and really.

780
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: Would have been a big blow up.

781
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 3: And even after Brian told me about it, like I

782
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 3: tried to really address it to Jeremy, not in a

783
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 3: sense of like Brian told me this, you know, at

784
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 3: that point everyone knew but me, So really it's like.

785
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: Everyone told me.

786
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 3: In my head, I'm like everyone told me because they

787
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: didn't tell me it was it's really like hard, it's

788
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 3: hard to watch this majority of the season has been

789
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 3: a hard watch for me.

790
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: You're joying it, but yeah, I mean you're you're going

791
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: through it, So I feel for you for sure, because

792
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: you are. It's not an easy experience. And I feel

793
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: like Jeremy calling Susie as much as like that sucks,

794
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: and like I feel like you can get over something

795
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: like that because you guys were still very early on

796
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: in your relationship, like he he fucked up. He didn't

797
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: tell you, Like that's a huge mistake on his part,

798
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: and but it's like it was early on. Emotions were everywhere.

799
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: He spiraled, he freaked out, and he had a bad moment.

800
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: But now we're like a couple more episodes in and

801
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: then like you know, he tells Brian in his room,

802
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: like I like something like I would still get engaged

803
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: to Susie or whatever the fuck, or like I still

804
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 1: like I still have feelings for Susie. How does that

805
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: sit with you? Because it feels like you're, at least

806
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: from what we're seeing, your relationship has progressed since the

807
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: moment he called Susie. And then it's like weeks later

808
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: he still kind of says that.

809
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think you question like the seriousness of

810
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 4: your relationship and where he stands in it.

811
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like watching it back, so it's like obviously the

812
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 3: phone all happened week three, and then going into week four,

813
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 3: I think it's like maybe that's like day nine of

814
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 3: Paradise and hearing those comments, it's like never nice because

815
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 3: you know how you're feeling in that moment, like in

816
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: the moment, I'm like, you know, I'm feeling so happy,

817
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 3: I'm feeling locked in. I'm feeling like we're really growing

818
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 3: as a strong couple, and I feel like my I

819
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 3: actually think in the moment, if I would have just

820
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 3: known that there were like all these doubts, it wouldn't

821
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 3: be like as big of a deal. We would have

822
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 3: just been able to like have these conversations, and I

823
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: wouldn't necessarily watch it back and be like, oh, that's

824
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 3: like the worst feeling.

825
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 2: Ever, you know what I mean.

826
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 3: And it's hard because, like I'm also someone if there

827
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 3: was like moments where I was having doubt, I would

828
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 3: just internally process those.

829
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: I know, I'm on TV, you know what I mean.

830
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 3: I know that I'm gonna watch back some of these things,

831
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 3: and the last thing I want to do is like

832
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 3: talk out of my character. I obviously like can't say

833
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: if that was talking out of it, you know what

834
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 3: I mean, Like in the moment, maybe he's just like

835
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 3: having a conversation with his dudes. But that was like

836
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 3: horrible to watch back, you know, it was hard to process.

837
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 3: It was like week four, and yes, we were progressing

838
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: in our relationship. I also think like it's hard because

839
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 3: in normal parent at this point, we don't know that

840
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 3: it's a competition, you know, we don't know that there's

841
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 3: not people coming in. So in normal paradise, I think

842
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 3: that there's moments where you have like little doubts in

843
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 3: your relationship and I wish that we would have just

844
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 3: had a conversation about it. I actually like, and I

845
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: think we see this like coming off the morning after

846
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 3: me finding out about the phone call, Like it wasn't

847
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: the issue of the phone call, Like I didn't think

848
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 3: that that was that big of an issue. It was

849
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: more the issue of not knowing that the phone call

850
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 3: had happened, and then even worse, everyone else knowing about

851
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: the phone call, because it could have just been like

852
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: so squashed. It didn't have to be like something that

853
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 3: took over this entire season, you know what I mean,

854
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 3: something that like dragged on for me. And it's really

855
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: hard to process that. Like I think I'm still processing

856
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 3: it every week because I just remember how I'm feeling

857
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 3: in the moment, and I'm remembering our conversation and they

858
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 3: were amazing because obviously, why would we progress to this

859
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: moment and this time if like we weren't like really

860
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 3: liking each other and like even on our date, like

861
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: our date was amazing, that was like my best That's

862
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 3: my best first day I've ever had, like in my

863
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: entire life. And I feel like we just got to

864
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 3: get really deep, and I mean, I know how I felt,

865
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 3: So I feel like I just kind of have to

866
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 3: be like, Okay, I just have to be like what

867
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 3: I mean, what can I really do? Like it kind

868
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 3: of happened, and I wish that we would have had

869
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 3: time to talk about it in the moment or like

870
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 3: him just talk to me about it and be like, hey,

871
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 3: like I'm going to be honest, like I really like you,

872
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: but I'm also like still having these like things of

873
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: doubts and maybe we could have like talked about it.

874
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's really horrible watching it back, honestly. Yeah.

875
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So you know, it's obviously it's tough watching

876
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: all the people that are you're close with know something

877
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: about you and not tell you. And I get some

878
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: of the reasoning is they're also friends with Jeremy. If

879
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: the Roles war reversed and this was happening to Alex,

880
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: do you think you would have what the way your

881
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: relationship is do you think you would have told her.

882
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 3: Like a thousand percent, I would have not even like

883
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: that night, I would have come back and I would

884
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 3: have talked to her about that.

885
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 2: That's just the kind of person that.

886
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: I am, Like, I hold like my friendships to a

887
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 3: really high standard. It doesn't mean that I don't I

888
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,959
Speaker 3: hold the person that I'm like talking to and dating

889
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 3: to a high standard. But I feel like if anyone

890
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: should have my back, it should be my friends, because really, like,

891
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 3: no shade, but like, what is this guy that I've

892
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 3: known for three.

893
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: Weeks owe me? Do you know what I mean? Like,

894
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: what does he owe to me?

895
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: Like my friends that I've come close with that I'm

896
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: confiding and that I'm like, you know, and I'm sharing

897
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: to them how deep I'm getting into our relationship and

898
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 3: how deep I'm feeling. And I feel like the first

899
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 3: thing my first thought would have been like, Okay, I

900
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 3: like me to tell you about this, like immediately, and

901
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 3: then kind of finding out about all the girls that

902
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 3: I also got so close with there also kind of

903
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 3: finding out I just like don't understand why no one

904
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: told me. I think maybe I know I didn't want

905
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 3: to know about his date with Susie. But like, I

906
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 3: think it was very clear that I didn't know about

907
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 3: the phone call, and so I don't know, maybe people

908
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 3: didn't want to ruin like a good thing going on.

909
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's really hard.

910
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 3: Everyone's in on a joke and you're not in on it,

911
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 3: and it kind of felt like, you know, my love

912
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 3: life is like unfortunately the joke that everyone's in on. Yeah,

913
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 3: I'm just like a bystander. Just you know, I'm back

914
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 3: in Bailey World and there's like bombs being thrown at it.

915
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: You know, I have no idea.

916
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, just like knowing the kind of person I am,

917
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 3: like I wouldn't have maybe told everyone, because I think

918
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 3: everyone probably wouldn't have known. I would have just like

919
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 3: told you know, that person, like directly. I would have

920
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 3: just told her like we're sharing a room every single

921
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 3: night together, and so yeah, that's how I would have acted. Obviously,

922
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 3: I understand there's like she's friends with Jeremy and that's hard,

923
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 3: but like I also like, do like really ride or

924
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 3: die for my girls? So like when you become my,

925
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 3: I felt like we were all so close there. We

926
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 3: spent every single day together, you know, I really felt

927
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 3: so close to these people, and like that's why, like

928
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 3: even sending home Gary and Leslie was so hard for me,

929
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: because I had just gotten so close to Gary and

930
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 3: Leslie and it literally felt like I was like killing them,

931
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 3: Like that's what it felt like for me. I was like,

932
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm literally throwing them off a cliff

933
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 3: and ending their paradise time. And so I feel like

934
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,479
Speaker 3: that's why I was also like so emotional. I think

935
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 3: that's what kind of also made the phone call hit

936
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 3: even harder, because it was just like I would have

937
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 3: liked someone that, you know, I was very connected to

938
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 3: to tell me, for Jeremy and for all my friends,

939
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 3: and so.

940
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, and then quick last question before we got

941
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 4: to let you go. Why do you think that everyone

942
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 4: villainized Brian for telling you? It felt like everyone was

943
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 4: collectively mad and felt betrayed by Brian, and we're almost

944
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 4: like we got to get him out of here, when

945
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 4: I'm sure from your perspective, you're like, I'm actually so

946
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 4: happy he did that, and I feel a greater sense

947
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 4: of trust towards Brian.

948
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, I mean, like the only one that the

949
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: only one that it makes sense who would be upset

950
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,479
Speaker 1: with Brian would be Jeremy, because Jeremy's I told you

951
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: you shouldn't send anything, but he did.

952
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:17,479
Speaker 2: Yes.

953
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 4: But I mean we see Spencer, a little bit of Andrew,

954
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 4: a lot of Cat and Dale basically saying like, we

955
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 4: can't trust this person. But from my perspective, it's like, well,

956
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 4: he you actually can trust him because if someone's doing something,

957
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 4: you know that feels shady to him, he's going to

958
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 4: be honest with you about it. Can you just give

959
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 4: us a little bit of insight into that?

960
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 2: Yeah?

961
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 3: I think the thing is I see both sides. I

962
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 3: am so grateful that Brian told me. I would have

963
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: hated to like come off of this and then have

964
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: this conversation and be like, oh I went through this

965
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 3: entire season and not known that this happened and these

966
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 3: comments are made.

967
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: I would have literally been distraught.

968
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 3: Obviously was still really it's still really hard processing every

969
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 3: single episode. I think it's going to take me a

970
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 3: while to like really you know, process it all. But

971
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 3: in regards like everyone kind of like going against Brian.

972
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 3: Obviously earlier that night when I thought he was being

973
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 3: really sneaky, I was like, no, like, you know, Brian's

974
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 3: got to go. He's being sneaky and then learning that

975
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 3: he wasn't. I was so thankful and grateful to him,

976
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 3: and I kind of wish that people would have seen that.

977
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: You know, maybe you guys should have just told me

978
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 3: and we wouldn't have had to get to this moment

979
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 3: where like people are scared they're going to go home,

980
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: and like I felt like the reason Brian told me

981
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: is because he was slightly scared, Like, you know, he

982
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: could have gone home the week before, and he was like,

983
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 3: I didn't want to leave knowing that no one was

984
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 3: going to tell you, or knowing that people were going

985
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 3: to wait to tell you. And I had and I

986
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 3: knew this and I didn't tell you, and so I

987
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: you know, he expressed that to me in that moment too.

988
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 3: And I think it's like a mix of things like obviously,

989
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 3: you know he's had some freak out moments. I think

990
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 3: people are also like the girls know about the freak

991
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 3: out in the pool and things like that.

992
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 2: I don't maybe freak out, it's not the threat word,

993
00:43:58,960 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: but you know what I mean.

994
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 3: So I think it's like a double edged sword. They're like,

995
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 3: can we trust you? Also, these things are kind of happening.

996
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 3: I kind of wish that people would have just listened

997
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: to me and been like, guys, like, I'm not mad

998
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 3: at Brian, like him and Freese's relationship. That's a different

999
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 3: thing if you guys are voting based off that, like

1000
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: that's what it is. I understand Jeremy feeling like he

1001
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 3: broke broad code, but I'm also really still obviously I'm

1002
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 3: grateful to Brian in that moment because I was just like, well,

1003
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 3: no one's gonna tell me, and I would have hated

1004
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 3: not knowing about that. So it's kind of hard. It's like,

1005
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 3: you know, what can you do with like at that

1006
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 3: timely moment. But I think everyone like also, like to

1007
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 3: be fair, we really didn't have that much like drama

1008
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 3: going on, so it did feel just like boom, like

1009
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 3: so intense like when And that's why I kind of

1010
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 3: didn't want everyone to know that he told me. And

1011
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 3: then I think it kind of like got out, but

1012
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 3: like I didn't tell anyone that he told me, you

1013
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 3: know what I mean, And I made it seem like

1014
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 3: he was coming to me to talk about Parsa.

1015
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,959
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was kind of hard.

1016
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 3: That was, and I mean, you know, him and Paresa's

1017
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 3: relationship and everyone voting like or whatever.

1018
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: That's a different thing.

1019
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 3: But I understand the guys like perspective, and I also

1020
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: understand my perspective. And I think in that moment, everyone

1021
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 3: should have really thought about like my feelings and not

1022
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 3: about maybe how betrayed you feel, because imagine how betrayed

1023
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 3: I feel. You know.

1024
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's like part I mean, I'm.

1025
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 3: Not going to talk about Brian's character and stuff, but

1026
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 3: like I was obviously still and I say this, and

1027
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 3: like my item, I say, like I say this, and like,

1028
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 3: you know, I'm glad that he told me, Like I

1029
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 3: think it's something that I need to know.

1030
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 2: I wish it was sooner than later, but you know.

1031
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 4: Or it happened, I would.

1032
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I you know, I agree with everything

1033
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: you're saying. And I think, like one hundred percent everyone

1034
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: should have, like if they're feeling betrayed, like think about

1035
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: how trade you must feel in that moment, and like,

1036
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 1: I think everyone should have just went with what you said.

1037
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: Like at that point, it's like now it is Bailey's world. Motherfuckers,

1038
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: Like listen to what I have to say, and that's

1039
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: that's gonna be. But the season's not over. For you.

1040
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 1: I hope it turns around because you're lovely and it's

1041
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: really uh, it's tough to watch, but I think, uh,

1042
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be good for you. But what

1043
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: do I know?

1044
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 4: Tuning in to see.

1045
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: And thank you Bailey for coming on Batchelor Happy Hour.

1046
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 2: Thank you guys, bye, of.

1047
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: Course, and thank you to all our listeners. Thank you

1048
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: guys for tuning in to Batchler Happy Hour. Make sure

1049
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: you download and subscribe to the podcast.

1050
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 4: We'll have new and exclusive interviews coming your way. Thanks

1051
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 4: for listening.

1052
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: Bye,