Speaker 1: This is how men think with broths like and Gavin
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Speaker 1: I appreciate the love. Man. They loved you. Did your
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Speaker 1: it's over. We're going to have some more fun today, buddy.
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Speaker 1: I'm in for I'm in next up. Diet al right,
Speaker 1: here we go, Gavin's favorite topic, diet and nutrition. Diet
Speaker 1: and nutrition are so important to me. They are I
Speaker 1: know I can live for them. Basic pizza based on
Speaker 1: the pizza that you were just ducking into blue cheese dress.
Speaker 1: But I can't believe we're talking about diet shod pizza
Speaker 1: in our mouth. Yeah, we've been working hard. Thank you,
Speaker 1: d table pizza. We've been working hard. Chet cheet day.
Speaker 1: You are. You are a pretty much a professional nutritionist
Speaker 1: and registered dietitian. Anyway, when you walked in the room,
Speaker 1: I felt it. You could feel it for aura like
Speaker 1: I could sense it. It just it screamed Atkins. You
Speaker 1: saw those boxes on my stomach. He thought it was
Speaker 1: a storage facility. That's right, get cleaner as you wear.
Speaker 1: Just just to help you, just to help you do
Speaker 1: the heavy lifting here. In this next second, we're also
Speaker 1: going to bring on friend of the show, previous guests
Speaker 1: of the show. She might be the first person that's
Speaker 1: been on two times with us. Christie's back with us, Christie, Christie,
Speaker 1: what's up? Hi? I know, I wish, I know, I
Speaker 1: so wish I could be instinuing with you. Guys know
Speaker 1: we miss you. So you're a sports dietitian at the
Speaker 1: University of Southern California. You have a massive, massive resume here,
Speaker 1: but you are my favorite story to tell every time
Speaker 1: I talk about you, was you were our sports nutrition
Speaker 1: coach for the l A Kings when I played here
Speaker 1: in town. Yes, I was. Yeah, so we we if
Speaker 1: we're like our listeners to eight and drank probably everything
Speaker 1: over the holidays, we love for some tips in the
Speaker 1: start of the new year to get our diet and
Speaker 1: nutrition back in line. Where do we start if we're
Speaker 1: just we just gorge over the holidays, where do we
Speaker 1: even start for this one? Well, that's a great question.
Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely think everybody, It feels like most
Speaker 1: people that I've talked to you to everybody has this
Speaker 1: goal for the newal of like how do I know,
Speaker 1: restructure my life and just cut myself into a better
Speaker 1: routine and have it. And I always tell people that
Speaker 1: the best thing you can do for yourself is to track,
Speaker 1: not even on my Fitness Pal or any of those
Speaker 1: apps with calories, because I think that can lead to
Speaker 1: just obsessive behaviors, but just even just start like writing
Speaker 1: down what you eat and what time, everything that goes
Speaker 1: in your mouth, because I think people are so busy
Speaker 1: that would end up happening is that they hardly eat
Speaker 1: during the day and then they come home and they're
Speaker 1: exhausted and they just eat a bunch of stuff at night,
Speaker 1: and then they start the cycle all over where they
Speaker 1: hardly eat in the morning it sort of continues, or
Speaker 1: they're snacking on things that they're not even aware of
Speaker 1: because they're so busy and they're hungry, and then a
Speaker 1: coworker brings and donuts or whatever, and you end up,
Speaker 1: you know, falling into that type of habits. So the
Speaker 1: first thing I think would be to keep a food
Speaker 1: bog of what you eat in the times and begin
Speaker 1: to see your patterns like either you are not eating
Speaker 1: enough protein and so you're over eating on carbohydrates and sugars,
Speaker 1: or you have that you know, three o'clock slum in
Speaker 1: the afternoon where all you want is sugar, and that
Speaker 1: could be because you didn't eat enough at lunch. So
Speaker 1: you kind of begin to see you just habits and patterns.
Speaker 1: I think that's all is a great place to start.
Speaker 1: And then it's being realistic with yourself of exercise, and
Speaker 1: that has to be a part of anybody's health and
Speaker 1: fitness goals is to fit that in. And what I
Speaker 1: think is happening because Instagram has blowing up with all
Speaker 1: these wonderful fitness videos and in different ways, finding something
Speaker 1: that really resonates with you instead of trying to do
Speaker 1: with what a friend of doing that you don't even
Speaker 1: like to do and you actually hate the whole time
Speaker 1: you're doing it. So it's finding something that you really
Speaker 1: enjoy doing and that could be a video or could
Speaker 1: be trying a different class. Um. So those two things
Speaker 1: of the food blog and then finding something that you
Speaker 1: can commit to that you enjoy. In terms of moving
Speaker 1: your body, let's say say, oh no, you go. You're
Speaker 1: already logging. Over logging, Christie logging Now. They say that
Speaker 1: getting the right amount of risks helps your muscle develop.
Speaker 1: If I just sleep all the time, can I get ripped?
Speaker 1: You're going to be shredded, Christie, sleep all day. As
Speaker 1: as you were talking, you're on the last time you're
Speaker 1: here with us, you were in studio, but you're on
Speaker 1: the phone right now. As you were talking, Gavin wrote
Speaker 1: pizza thirty on his plate as pizza plate, so he's
Speaker 1: taking your advice. And then and then as you talked
Speaker 1: about working out, he looked at me because I have
Speaker 1: a fitness appy. He's like, yeah, get me set up
Speaker 1: on that app. That's right there you go. I mean
Speaker 1: I actually have and it's incredible. Yes, and for our listeners,
Speaker 1: for everybody listening. Also, we're going to give you fifty
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Speaker 1: I'll give it to you if you go on. For
Speaker 1: anybody listening to your kickstarting your health, nutrition with Christy
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Speaker 1: a program for guys who don't want to pull tendons? Yeah? Man,
Speaker 1: we have bodyweight program which is like twenty minutes a day.
Speaker 1: My mom does that every single day. But you're gonna
Speaker 1: give Gavin two months, I'll give you Gavin two more months.
Speaker 1: He's so dedicated. Can I tell you what ladies worry about?
Speaker 1: What's that? Yes? I need to get me. Something's wrong
Speaker 1: up here on my arms. Something's wrong right here. I'm
Speaker 1: pointing to my belly. But if I get if we
Speaker 1: get too thin in the belly, I'm going to lose
Speaker 1: the one part I like, which are the b o
Speaker 1: o bes you? Yeah, stop reusing Yeah, I mean that idea, right,
Speaker 1: I know everybody wants to have this like beautifully sculpted body,
Speaker 1: Like I want to lose it from here, but not here.
Speaker 1: If I could just take this fat from a stomach
Speaker 1: and put it on my chest or like put it
Speaker 1: on my butt, like obviously there's I mean that's why
Speaker 1: I think lifting weights, especially for women, is so important.
Speaker 1: I think there's still this idea of cardio cardio cardio
Speaker 1: when it's I know, but it's I mean, it is
Speaker 1: really about sculpting and toning your body, and unless you
Speaker 1: have some type of resistance training, it's there's that is
Speaker 1: such a huge component. And remember, after the age of thirty,
Speaker 1: you lose a pound of muscle a year, so already
Speaker 1: replacing that you are going to be replacing it with fat,
Speaker 1: and fat doesn't burn any calories. And now you're in
Speaker 1: a like a really a situation where you have to
Speaker 1: figure out what you're eating and how you're eating because
Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of room, you know, the
Speaker 1: muscle you have, the more calories you burn. Fat makes
Speaker 1: drinking into pool easier though regardless of temperature. The only
Speaker 1: thing again, Brettie Prince Jr. Ever have to show his
Speaker 1: abs in a film. Yeah, I've had to show the washboard.
Speaker 1: I've had to show you not not when you got
Speaker 1: an eight package. So Chris Christie, can you can you
Speaker 1: give our listeners a couple of tips just to get
Speaker 1: him out of the gate to start. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you. If you're just getting started right,
Speaker 1: like you're just getting started. It's hard to do stuff
Speaker 1: cold turkey, But diet is about ninety And this isn't
Speaker 1: me saying this. I've spoken to a couple of physiologists,
Speaker 1: and I've had personal trainers, and I've heard this repeatedly.
Speaker 1: The diet is responsible for just about of your gains
Speaker 1: and losses, and exercise is going to be the rest
Speaker 1: of that. Now, I've heard different numbers, but it's always high.
Speaker 1: What I know a lot of people who just say
Speaker 1: they can't cook, but prep meals seem to be the
Speaker 1: easiest way I've found to do that. Do you believe
Speaker 1: in that? How can you help people? And do you
Speaker 1: think christ is diet. Oh absolutely not. It's exercise because
Speaker 1: those seriously, because there's plenty of people who work out
Speaker 1: all the time and you see them, you're you're like,
Speaker 1: nothing's changing. Like those are the ones that are doing
Speaker 1: all the work, and they'll do like those spend two
Speaker 1: hours in the jam. But then if they don't work
Speaker 1: on the nutrition, they're really just it's it's yeah, they're
Speaker 1: not going to see results. So you'll never Christians part
Speaker 1: is huge. Yeah. I always say you'll never outtrain a
Speaker 1: poor it. That's good. You just won't. You just won't.
Speaker 1: Even if you train, even if you train as much
Speaker 1: as I train, you'll never out train a poor diet
Speaker 1: because the poor diet will continue and at some point
Speaker 1: the training will slack off a little bit. Diet, and
Speaker 1: specifically within diet, portion control is a massive, massive party
Speaker 1: something to help with that. And I don't get any
Speaker 1: money from George Foreman, but those George Foreman grills are
Speaker 1: those little like little grills that fit in anybody's apartment. Freddie,
Speaker 1: I don't have a stove. You got a George Forman grill.
Speaker 1: And also it also helps with portion control because you
Speaker 1: can only fit so much on that bad boy. But
Speaker 1: if you can get a chicken breast and some vegetables
Speaker 1: on there and do that, you know, three or four
Speaker 1: times in one night, and set your meal prep up
Speaker 1: for the week, that can help people a lot with
Speaker 1: making healthier choices. Man, a lot of times it's just choices, right,
Speaker 1: Oh it is. I mean, I think what you said
Speaker 1: about like meal prepping is a huge component to this,
Speaker 1: because the point is that if you don't have the
Speaker 1: healthy foods in the house you begin with, then you
Speaker 1: you of you know, you're gonna start your work week
Speaker 1: and end up just eating out most of the time,
Speaker 1: which is a lot of people's problems. They don't kirk
Speaker 1: at home because they either they don't have the time
Speaker 1: or whatever the situation is. But there's so many simple,
Speaker 1: easy things that you can prepare at home that are
Speaker 1: just like you know, badge cook a bunch of like groll,
Speaker 1: a bunch of chicken or roast, a bunch of vegetables.
Speaker 1: And when you're looking at your plate. For those that
Speaker 1: are trying to really cut back but they were so
Speaker 1: used to eating large portions, that's when you have to
Speaker 1: have half of your plate being vegetables and then a
Speaker 1: quarter protein and even maybe a little bit less of
Speaker 1: a quarter then of carbohydrates. And eating slowly is also
Speaker 1: something that's incredibly important too, because if you're eating fast,
Speaker 1: then your body hasn't had a chance to kind of
Speaker 1: catch up and tell you that it's had enough. You're hungry,
Speaker 1: so then you go back and eat more. And then lady,
Speaker 1: you're like, why am myself full? Yeah? I gotta tell
Speaker 1: my ten year old daughter this all the time. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna make yourself sick, yea, but I'm not full yet.
Speaker 1: I'm like, because you ate a whole plate of food
Speaker 1: in four and a half minutes, can go slow. The
Speaker 1: other thing, one other thing I think people are sometimes
Speaker 1: guilty of is they'll they'll be really they'll be like, oh,
Speaker 1: just they'll under eat. Actually, when we talk about portion control,
Speaker 1: I think some people will under eat, which leads to
Speaker 1: them over eating. So they won't they won't have breakfast,
Speaker 1: or they'll just have something light at breakfast. Then maybe
Speaker 1: they just have like a small salad lunch, but they're
Speaker 1: really now starting to get hungry. They don't have a
Speaker 1: mid afternoon like healthy snack bar, and they push that
Speaker 1: off until like five or six o'clock. Then their their
Speaker 1: brain and their body is just going crazy and they'll
Speaker 1: just eat now anything like that. Bill Gates, he's the
Speaker 1: exception of the rule. Bill Gates does not eat breakfast.
Speaker 1: His first meal isn't until one o'clock in the afternoon
Speaker 1: every single day. I have no idea how he does.
Speaker 1: He might he might be intermittent fasting, or he's very
Speaker 1: popular too. Can you touch on that, Christie, intermitte fasting, yeah,
Speaker 1: or just the not eating and then overeating at night.
Speaker 1: I mean both, Yeah, let's go both. Let's talk about Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I think inter fasting is. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of research to back it up. I'm
Speaker 1: one to say, like mostly I would say for the
Speaker 1: average person, it's it's not for everybody. Um, And you
Speaker 1: have to just do your research and do it in
Speaker 1: a way where you can do smaller windows. You don't
Speaker 1: have to do these long hours without eating. But um,
Speaker 1: but I do think there's this over snacking issue some
Speaker 1: people do too, where that intermitte fasting can be very helpful,
Speaker 1: you know, so you you have a shorter window of
Speaker 1: time during the day. But I don't think especially if
Speaker 1: somebody is starting out and they want to you know,
Speaker 1: look good and feel good for the new I would say,
Speaker 1: don't do any set don't I would you know, stay
Speaker 1: away from more of the diets and really just look
Speaker 1: at your behaviors and cut back on the amount of
Speaker 1: sugars and excess snacking that people do. Which I think
Speaker 1: that when I see people in my private practice for
Speaker 1: weight loss, and when I start talking to them about
Speaker 1: what they're currently eating, they are just there in the car.
Speaker 1: They're snacking because they maybe bring nuts and now they're
Speaker 1: you know what, what once was like a healthier option
Speaker 1: to bring nuts in your car just in case you
Speaker 1: get hungry, But now they're sitting into hours of traffic
Speaker 1: and that bag of less is gone before they get home.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of that happening. Um. But I
Speaker 1: certainly feel like intermitute fasting can be really, really helpful
Speaker 1: for a lot of people. I've seen many people lose
Speaker 1: weight and keep it off by doing that. But it's
Speaker 1: a dedication. They really it's got to work in your
Speaker 1: life because it's you know, very difficult to do. If
Speaker 1: you want to eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner in a
Speaker 1: timely fashion. How do you how do you feel about fat? Fat?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, like food that has fat.
Speaker 1: You're like no sugar, no carbs or less sugar, less carbs.
Speaker 1: How about fat? I'm actually trying to how do you
Speaker 1: feel about fat? You know what I mean? Like cream
Speaker 1: heavy cream on the meat and that now, So I
Speaker 1: would prefer people to use healthier mono unsaturated fats, like
Speaker 1: to end extra avocado, go ahead and add an extra
Speaker 1: table stone of olive oil to your salad, um and
Speaker 1: still and be satiated that way then, um, cutting out
Speaker 1: fat or going for like the heavy fats, like you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just going to smother my salad and branch now
Speaker 1: because I want to because delicious. Here. Hey, so here's
Speaker 1: another question. So I go out, you know for breakfast,
Speaker 1: say right, because I live in hotels and stuff. So um,
Speaker 1: when I say, I order some eggs, right, and I
Speaker 1: asked them, hey, do you mind not using any oil?
Speaker 1: Can you just please cook it in butter? How do
Speaker 1: you feel about that? Do I have a death wish? Um?
Speaker 1: Not necessarily, because first of all, that's that's one I
Speaker 1: never looked at one thing and it would categorize you
Speaker 1: as like, oh wow, like you're on to you grow
Speaker 1: to destruction because you like your eggs and butter. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I was going to say that stuff, but but yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, I don't think the butter
Speaker 1: is necessarily a bad thing. I think there's a lot
Speaker 1: worse um fats out there, to be honest, um, so
Speaker 1: I would which fats do you think are worse? Like
Speaker 1: so bad? Please? You're asking like you want to know
Speaker 1: where they are so you could eat them. I'm kind
Speaker 1: of curious why all the hil There's a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff like canola oils that are very hy I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different like oils and and like
Speaker 1: I was saying, like ranch or um even like heavy creams,
Speaker 1: Like those kinds of things wouldn't be first on my
Speaker 1: list of something you should be having on a legular basis.
Speaker 1: But if you were, like, you know what, this is
Speaker 1: what I really enjoy, like having my eggs cooked in butter.
Speaker 1: But then for the rest of the day, I'm very
Speaker 1: you know, mindful of other saturated fats that I put
Speaker 1: in my diet. That's the key. It's when people eliminate
Speaker 1: everything and then they're just unhappy and livable. Then they
Speaker 1: start eating other things. So to me, it's like looking
Speaker 1: at your overall diet and be like, if that's what
Speaker 1: you like for your breakfast, as long as the rest
Speaker 1: of the day isn't like pizza and burger and French
Speaker 1: fries and other stuff, then you're okay. So canola oils
Speaker 1: like the Floyd Mayweather of oils, like it looks like
Speaker 1: it's going to give you something delicious, but at the
Speaker 1: end you're very unsatisfied. And canola oils are genetically modified.
Speaker 1: I think that's part of the problem. And then you've
Speaker 1: got to be careful too, like if you're you're heating
Speaker 1: certain oils as well, Like you really want to cook
Speaker 1: an avocado oil or coconut oil versus if you're frying
Speaker 1: things in olive oil. It's not ideal. Listener, how do
Speaker 1: I know you're not invested in the avocado oil industries.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not. I would just kidding, um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: So I think that it's kind of looking at That's
Speaker 1: what I was saying. I think everybody sort of needs
Speaker 1: to take a step back and look at their behaviors
Speaker 1: and point and understand some of the things that they're
Speaker 1: consuming that they really enjoy. Like I have a client
Speaker 1: who loves bagels, and she's like, if I could just
Speaker 1: have a bagel for every breakfast, I really not crave
Speaker 1: as many carbs throughout the day. And I've done that.
Speaker 1: She's lost arouny fifteen pounds. But before she was like,
Speaker 1: I heard bagels are bad, they make you gain weight.
Speaker 1: That she may carbohydrates or whatever it's for her. My
Speaker 1: wife Jewish, she would have smacked her if she heard
Speaker 1: her say those things about bagels. See, but you've got
Speaker 1: to work with each person. So I think that's why
Speaker 1: it's not a cookie cutter way of developing a healthy lifestyle,
Speaker 1: you know, and cookies can be part of that. Christie,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on. UM, I have one more question,
Speaker 1: just one more, like, just tell our listeners if this
Speaker 1: is good or bad. This is what I uh, real
Speaker 1: simple formula I try and follow. Um. I try and
Speaker 1: eat very lean. You're very clean, but I try and
Speaker 1: if I'm going to eat any carbs or starches, I'll
Speaker 1: do it before two o'clock because my metabolism will naturally
Speaker 1: slow down after two pm. And then in the evening
Speaker 1: I'll do a meat with a steam vegetable, so a
Speaker 1: protein with a steam vegetable carbs earlier in the day
Speaker 1: because your metabolism is higher steam vegetables, leaner meal in
Speaker 1: the evening. So yes, all of that I totally agree
Speaker 1: with completely, unless you're a person who I have people
Speaker 1: who work out at night and then they're like the
Speaker 1: protein and vegetable saying. So it depends on also when
Speaker 1: your workout is. But you're right, carbs are designed for
Speaker 1: to the energy right, and as the day goes on
Speaker 1: and work, you know, most people kind of slowed down
Speaker 1: midday to the evening. That's when they should be having
Speaker 1: less carbs forsa. But I have clients who work out
Speaker 1: let's say at seven, like six o'clock or right after work,
Speaker 1: all put in a little bit of carbohydrate, but a
Speaker 1: small amount um. But for in general, I would say
Speaker 1: that's a good that's a really good rule. But also
Speaker 1: to caveat that making sure that they're not over consuming
Speaker 1: on carbs earlier in the day because I can't have
Speaker 1: them at night, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 1: think it's like a little bit of Philip on my
Speaker 1: keen while lunch because I'm not gonna have any at dinner.
Speaker 1: So it's it's always like making sure that the amount is,
Speaker 1: you know, like a fist a fistful for most people.
Speaker 1: It depends on that. But if you look at your
Speaker 1: plate and it's covered in quinoa or you have a
Speaker 1: ton of potatoes or rice, it's always a good idea
Speaker 1: to cut back on carbs in general and sugar and
Speaker 1: that proteins healthy fats and vegetables with the majority. Awesome,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Chocolate and bowler berries I eat
Speaker 1: right before bed. I'm nailing it. Yes, listen, keep that
Speaker 1: in for sure, Christie, thank you so much. Um, where
Speaker 1: can our listeners find you? Should? They want more information
Speaker 1: on this? They want to start in a healthy new way.
Speaker 1: So a couple of I think, Amy, have my my
Speaker 1: social website. I believe, Um, and that made you get
Speaker 1: give out your new Instagram that you never post on.
Speaker 1: I know she's so bad at market. So KM cam
Speaker 1: Sports Nutrition is the website KM Sports Nutrition. And then Um,
Speaker 1: do you want email or no, don't get your email?
Speaker 1: What's your instagram? Dude? Oh Christie dot Morrell m O
Speaker 1: R R E l L. So now you'll just see
Speaker 1: pictures of Christie's kids. Christie, I thought that's that. I agree, Amy,
Speaker 1: I know you've trying to start like a whole thing.
Speaker 1: She just told everybody want to eat. We're going to
Speaker 1: tell her to be better about marketing, you know. She
Speaker 1: thank you so much. I always appreciate it. Gets never
Speaker 1: get down the marketing, um Amy. We gotta get Christie
Speaker 1: back in studio with us because diet it's such an
Speaker 1: important part of aut a healthy life. So thank you
Speaker 1: so much. Thank you Christy, Thank you guys. All right,
Speaker 1: take care. This one's the scary one. This is the
Speaker 1: scary one. This is a massive Our community reached out
Speaker 1: and sent us so many questions and topics and wanted
Speaker 1: us to dive into this one. Anxiety, anxiety, stress, all
Speaker 1: of the things anxiety. We're going to dive in to anxiety.
Speaker 1: People want to reduce the amount of stress and anxiety
Speaker 1: that they have in their everyday life. I want nothing
Speaker 1: more for people to reduce that and feel calm and
Speaker 1: feel grace and feel poised and fun and free in
Speaker 1: their lives versus stressing, stressing, stress. I know people in
Speaker 1: my life who are just stressed, and it doesn't I
Speaker 1: don't even want to be around them because it's that
Speaker 1: energy is just resonating off. So we have with us
Speaker 1: Dr Hillary gold Shure, Hillary, are you on the phone.
Speaker 1: I am, Thank you so much for coming on so
Speaker 1: uh Dr Hillary, you are a licensed clinical psychologist with
Speaker 1: a private practice in Beverly Hills. You specialize in treatment
Speaker 1: of couples, relationships, depression, anxiety, trauma, grief, eating disorders, you
Speaker 1: name it. Um, where do we even start with somebody
Speaker 1: that has anxiety? What's like the the first place you'll
Speaker 1: look at their lives or the first area you're able
Speaker 1: to help. Yeah, I mean, anxiety is a symptom that
Speaker 1: typically comes from pushing away painful, difficult, stressful thoughts and emotion.
Speaker 1: So it usually shows up as a symptom. So I
Speaker 1: always want to know what things are going on in
Speaker 1: their lives outside of the anxiety symptoms. What's happening professionally,
Speaker 1: personally in the relationships, issues that they've had in the past, etcetera,
Speaker 1: that are contributing to their tendency to like avoid painful
Speaker 1: thoughts and feelings because they usually show up a symptoms
Speaker 1: of anxiety. MM. So if somebody let me impact that
Speaker 1: a little bit. So if somebody, let's say, somebody goes
Speaker 1: to even eating, eating can be a very unhealthy thing
Speaker 1: they actually won't have an eating problem. They will have
Speaker 1: some sort of anxiety or an issue or a trauma
Speaker 1: somewhere else in their life that they becomes the result
Speaker 1: of avoiding the pain of this other issue. Is that correct?
Speaker 1: That's right. The eating becomes the symptom, that's right. So
Speaker 1: it probably is also true that they then have manifested
Speaker 1: in eating problem, if you will. So it's not that
Speaker 1: it can't be true that the eating issues are invasive
Speaker 1: in their life as well. But in order to get
Speaker 1: to kind of the origin of it, yes, almost always,
Speaker 1: really without exception, there's something else going on, and the
Speaker 1: eating or the drinking or the overworking or whatever the
Speaker 1: symptom is is a mechanism of escaped. So how do
Speaker 1: we encourage somebody. My dad when I was, when I
Speaker 1: was a child, and just even still as in my
Speaker 1: life now, my dad, hillary Um always encouraged this. He said,
Speaker 1: run towards the fire. And my dad was a principal,
Speaker 1: and he said every day when he got to school,
Speaker 1: the first thing, the first three things he did in
Speaker 1: the morning were the three things he least wanted to
Speaker 1: do in the course of his day. And so he
Speaker 1: he built this monster to run towards the fire, and
Speaker 1: he goes, after I did those three things, Brooks, I
Speaker 1: could get on with the rest of my day, and
Speaker 1: and I wasn't left worrying about Oh at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I now have to conquer the three
Speaker 1: biggest beasts of my day. So he instilled that in
Speaker 1: myself and my brother and my sister, run towards the fire.
Speaker 1: And it's been a phrase that I've leaned on a
Speaker 1: lot in the course of my life. Um, But for
Speaker 1: our listeners who are maybe scared of that or haven't
Speaker 1: been trained or taught that, how what are the first
Speaker 1: steps we can encourage somebody to move towards a trauma
Speaker 1: or an issue or a problem, because that's not a
Speaker 1: fun thing to do. Nobody will really wants to do that.
Speaker 1: I love that that's such that that is such good
Speaker 1: psychological advice. It's such a good way of taking care
Speaker 1: of like your brain and your heart is to kind
Speaker 1: of run towards what's hard, and you know, the way
Speaker 1: to kind of break that down in the way that
Speaker 1: might feel more digestible for listeners who are just kind
Speaker 1: of consemplating this possibility is like finding a safe place,
Speaker 1: a safe way to think about feelings, to think about issues,
Speaker 1: to think about inner conflicts, to think about things in
Speaker 1: their lives that aren't working. And so a safe place
Speaker 1: might be therapy, a safe place might be a trusted friend.
Speaker 1: A safe place might be meditating. A safe place might
Speaker 1: be journaling, you know, finding an outlet that feels possible
Speaker 1: to let some of those kind of scary, difficult thoughts
Speaker 1: come up, because when they stay kind of stuffed down
Speaker 1: inside of us, they always create symptoms. And even though
Speaker 1: it's scary to kind of look at that stuff closed
Speaker 1: up and feel the pain and the fear and the
Speaker 1: hopelessness or whatever comes with it, it is always the
Speaker 1: first step towards healing. It's always the first step towards
Speaker 1: sort of lifting the haze of anxiety. That's sort of
Speaker 1: what this show is. That's why we started this gaye
Speaker 1: for us, uh Dr Hilary. We wanted to do. I'm
Speaker 1: not good naturally at talking about my emotions or my
Speaker 1: feelings or vulnerable disagree. I was not though, That's why
Speaker 1: this this podcast for me. It keeps me honest, and
Speaker 1: it keeps me It's it's training to to use a
Speaker 1: muscle that's not natural for me. So in doing this podcast,
Speaker 1: I've got better at sharing vulnerabilities and insecurities and hopes
Speaker 1: that it encourages other men to do that um or
Speaker 1: other other women too. UM. But how do we trying
Speaker 1: to think where to go with this is, how do
Speaker 1: we encourage other people to accept that discomfort, because even
Speaker 1: for me, it's hard, Like for on on the show
Speaker 1: here Gap, we challenge each other all the time. We
Speaker 1: need to open up more, we need to be more vulnerable,
Speaker 1: We need to like say more truths, hoping that uncovering
Speaker 1: these will help people out there that are really struggling.
Speaker 1: But it's damn hard to move that way. It's but
Speaker 1: I think, and I think part of the reason it
Speaker 1: is tough is because everybody is so afraid to say
Speaker 1: the wrong thing in an effort to express themselves. That
Speaker 1: people just keep their mouth shut about a lot of things.
Speaker 1: And so, you know, we're not all politicians. Sometimes you're
Speaker 1: just speaking off the cuff and something may be misinterpreted
Speaker 1: as a quote unquote wrong thing to say, but you're
Speaker 1: just you talking through how you feel at the moment.
Speaker 1: You haven't quite formulated how to express it yet. And
Speaker 1: I think that's also a part of why people have
Speaker 1: a hard time beginning the process of discussing certain things
Speaker 1: that are difficult for them is because they're afraid to
Speaker 1: say the wrong thing in the process of trying to
Speaker 1: figure out how to say what it is it's on
Speaker 1: their mind. Yeah, I think, I think you're so right.
Speaker 1: There's just that vulnerability to be seen as weak, or
Speaker 1: to say something that someone feels offended by, or to
Speaker 1: say something that is politically incorrect, whether it's sort of
Speaker 1: in a macro sensor, just in a micro sense, that
Speaker 1: context of your life. Yeah, we all understand that. Yeah, right, Ye,
Speaker 1: all of those gears exist. But you know, I think
Speaker 1: perhaps for your listeners, the idea, uh and it sounds
Speaker 1: so cliche, but it's really true. And I love how
Speaker 1: you guys are talking about this, the idea that they're
Speaker 1: really not alone, that everybody, men and women alike, experience
Speaker 1: that fear of being vulnerable, vulnerable, experience, that fear of
Speaker 1: exposing parts of themselves that feel you know, unfinished, not
Speaker 1: short up, afraid, and the idea that like, we're all
Speaker 1: human and all are in this together and all have
Speaker 1: similar experiences, and you know, it's just having this conversation
Speaker 1: with the client recently that for men and women alike,
Speaker 1: there there's there's a strange ability for you know, kind
Speaker 1: of the mind and body to not have great muscle
Speaker 1: memory around this stuff, meaning that most people will report
Speaker 1: when they are open and vulnerable that later they feel
Speaker 1: pretty good about it, but the next time they go
Speaker 1: to do it, they're just as scared. It's hard, and
Speaker 1: it's always hard. And maybe if your listeners sort of
Speaker 1: know that, like every one of us men, women, therapists,
Speaker 1: you guys are like, you know, when you're struggling with
Speaker 1: something and you go to be vulnerable, that it's hard
Speaker 1: each time. It's like the human experience, the sorry, but
Speaker 1: the no, go ahead and go ahead. I think it's
Speaker 1: served that weird dichotomy between being brave enough to be
Speaker 1: vulnerable and how you know that. It's sort of this
Speaker 1: interesting fine line between the two things, but they are interrelated.
Speaker 1: I often say to my patients, you aren't brave unless
Speaker 1: you're afraid. Do you know what I mean? That's that's
Speaker 1: brave or courageous unless it's hard, That's right, It's yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel that way. Honestly. When we do this show,
Speaker 1: we walk in the studio and every day when I
Speaker 1: walk in. I'm I'm honestly scared. I'm I'm we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about something. There's something in me that I'm like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about that, but I make YouTube, GAV.
Speaker 1: We make a conscious decision when we enter this studio
Speaker 1: that we are going to do the hard work. It
Speaker 1: was our pledge in our very first podcast. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be open and genuine and raw and try and do
Speaker 1: hard work on ourselves, hoping, just hoping that somebody out
Speaker 1: there listening might be inspired by that or see that
Speaker 1: it's okay to feel that way, or resonates with it,
Speaker 1: or knows that they're not the only one feeling that way. Um,
Speaker 1: and for anybody listening, it does actually get easier. So
Speaker 1: I don't know what this is podcast thirty or what
Speaker 1: it is, but the first few were like, WHOA, this
Speaker 1: is tough to open up, and but now it's starting
Speaker 1: to come in and the conversations are more free flowing.
Speaker 1: And as you said, Dr Hillary, it's amazing when you
Speaker 1: express like a a trauma or an insecurity or a
Speaker 1: feeling of concern and you openly express it and it's
Speaker 1: received with no judgment. Quite often, I think we think
Speaker 1: we're going to be judged when we we say something
Speaker 1: like that, but actually the people around us are just
Speaker 1: gonna shower us with love and affection and line up
Speaker 1: to help. That's the other thing. We've seen such a
Speaker 1: response from our our listeners, and any time in my
Speaker 1: life when I've reached out to a friend or family
Speaker 1: member or something, they drop everything in line up to help. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I think there's also you know, I think there's there's
Speaker 1: there's sort of there's a group intelligence, and there's also
Speaker 1: a group there's certain like a group I Q, but
Speaker 1: there's also a group EQ, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And I think that that that's an element to it
Speaker 1: as well, where you put it out there and people
Speaker 1: begin to say, okay. All it does is we have
Speaker 1: to realize also from where we are our platform is
Speaker 1: that when we talk about what we're going through, it's
Speaker 1: simply human humanizes us and it allows other people to
Speaker 1: sort of express themselves too. And so that's the beauty
Speaker 1: of the format, you know, to discuss things that are
Speaker 1: on our mind. There is that amazing phenomenon. We're almost
Speaker 1: always when we are vulnerable and open up. You're right,
Speaker 1: people people come towards us, not move away. And I
Speaker 1: think part of that is that people are inherently good,
Speaker 1: But part of that is because it touches within ourselves.
Speaker 1: We recognize each other. I feel that too. I'm afraid
Speaker 1: to I'm vunerable too, and you're so bullied that someone
Speaker 1: else and showing that part of themselves that people, I
Speaker 1: think UM are are mobilized by it. It's really powerful.
Speaker 1: I have a question for you, Dr hilary Um. What
Speaker 1: area of most people's lives gives them the most anxiety.
Speaker 1: Would it be relationship, would it be career, would it
Speaker 1: be finances? What? In your practice? What do you see
Speaker 1: most common that people struggle with it gives them the
Speaker 1: most anxiety. I would say that the deepest, most soulcial anxiety,
Speaker 1: if you will, usually is around relationships. Is around one's
Speaker 1: you know, most primitive relationship, typically the romantic relationship. Sometimes
Speaker 1: other relationships are the most formative, depending on one's life circumstances.
Speaker 1: But I would say those are the ones that tend
Speaker 1: to those type of anxiety. These are the ones that
Speaker 1: tend to break freely, even um the most sturdy of
Speaker 1: coping mechanisms right in it, of course, I see a
Speaker 1: lot of anxiety around and professional staff and finances and
Speaker 1: all of that. But I think it's for me. It's
Speaker 1: people's core, this relationship stuff and all the vulnerability that
Speaker 1: comes up and things that it pulls up from our past,
Speaker 1: pains from our past, and business from our past. That
Speaker 1: was my next question is what specifically within a relationship
Speaker 1: gives the most anxiety. Is it insecurities? Is it fears?
Speaker 1: Um like but you said things from our past? Is
Speaker 1: that things about us that we're not proud of, things
Speaker 1: we've done, things that were shameful of. You know what
Speaker 1: I often see. I mean, certainly it is in that
Speaker 1: subset what you just mentioned, certainly, But what I most
Speaker 1: often see is some version as you were just talking
Speaker 1: about about insecurities, fears of abandoned, the fears of vulnerability,
Speaker 1: that instead of showing up that way, show up in
Speaker 1: another way like anger or shutting down, or infidelity or
Speaker 1: overworking or drinking. Right, you know, things that that negatively
Speaker 1: impact the relationship are invasive to the connection of the relationship,
Speaker 1: And oftentimes though is But oftentimes, if you dig in
Speaker 1: with the client and relate it back to their early
Speaker 1: childhood years, their dynamics in their family of origin. You
Speaker 1: find pains and wounds and hurts that never really got
Speaker 1: resolved that can get projected onto the current relationship. So if, um,
Speaker 1: if somebody felt like, oh, their their mother never really
Speaker 1: saw them fully as a person, was you know, felt
Speaker 1: sort of abandoning emotionally, that that person can be overly
Speaker 1: sensitive to their partner checking out or not attending to them,
Speaker 1: for example. So oftentimes we're able to link those things
Speaker 1: and and make some pretty powerful progress as a result.
Speaker 1: It's that that's fascinating to me because that's like a puzzle, right,
Speaker 1: that's like a like a it's a deep dive of
Speaker 1: a journey. Seeing this from twelve years ago affects this
Speaker 1: decision making process today. And we all have it. We
Speaker 1: all carry their past with us and it shows up
Speaker 1: in our present. And and unless we actually do some
Speaker 1: of this reflective work and you said it's journaling, you
Speaker 1: said it could be talking to a therapist. Uh, these
Speaker 1: different practices reading, Um, we're going to carry this behavior
Speaker 1: with us in the future. And I also believe that
Speaker 1: a behavior doesn't define a person. So if we acted
Speaker 1: a certain way or act a certain way, that's a behavior,
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean, that's necessarily who we are, so
Speaker 1: I can I can do something gave to you that
Speaker 1: upsets you, and you might still love me as a dude,
Speaker 1: but you're like, I don't like that behavior. That what
Speaker 1: you just did there, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: for people listening, I don't want them to be defined
Speaker 1: by their past. I don't want their future. Sure if
Speaker 1: they if they have a traumatic past or things that
Speaker 1: they're insecure about, our fears or something, I don't want
Speaker 1: them to carry that into the president or into the future.
Speaker 1: But I do want them to, as my dad used
Speaker 1: to say, run towards the fire, discover what that is,
Speaker 1: lean into that and really own it, wear it and
Speaker 1: say that was a part of me. But I can
Speaker 1: today change the path of my future. I haven't mentioned
Speaker 1: it yet, but I love hearing you quote your dad
Speaker 1: because my dad always used to say something almost identical,
Speaker 1: because I'd say, run to the lion. Oh yeah, he'd
Speaker 1: always run to the line, run towards the line, same
Speaker 1: exact kind of thing, you know it was about. You know,
Speaker 1: he'd say, don't waste your calories trying to get away
Speaker 1: from the problem. Go to the problem. Don't exhaust yourself
Speaker 1: trying to get away from it. Go fix it, whatever
Speaker 1: it is, go at it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And U said to about the you know, there's such
Speaker 1: a beacon of hope in the notion that we are
Speaker 1: not our behavior. And for your listeners, beautiful who are
Speaker 1: considering all of this and feel shame or whatever the
Speaker 1: right word is about some of their behavior, how they
Speaker 1: move through the world or through relationships, you know, really
Speaker 1: clinging onto that notion that you are not your havior.
Speaker 1: You know, some of those behaviors may come from these
Speaker 1: wounds that we're talking about, and there's there's a chance
Speaker 1: to shift that. There's a chance to change that, to
Speaker 1: understand it and make different choices in our future. So
Speaker 1: not feeling like we're stuck in some narrative that we've
Speaker 1: internalized about ourselves can be a really you know, hopeful
Speaker 1: notion when someone just feel stuck in anxiety or stuck
Speaker 1: in behaviors, are stuck in a way of being. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think I think the self talk you just
Speaker 1: touched on it, like the way we talk to ourselves,
Speaker 1: the way we treat ourselves is as important in that
Speaker 1: or more important than the way anybody is going to
Speaker 1: treat us. Um. And just while we're on this, one
Speaker 1: of my best buddies, UH put this on his instagram yesterday.
Speaker 1: Mike Green put this on his instagram. I am not
Speaker 1: what happened to me. I am what I choose to become.
Speaker 1: It's a quote by Carl J. Young. UM, And I
Speaker 1: saw that, I was like, I love this man, I
Speaker 1: absolutely love it. Um. So it's it sounds so easy that.
Speaker 1: But you said your dad said run toward the lion.
Speaker 1: I say, my dad said run toward the fire. But UM,
Speaker 1: any other tips or tricks? Dr Hillary on how we
Speaker 1: can encourage somebody to move toward the issues or problems
Speaker 1: or traumatic areas in their life in order to understand it. UM,
Speaker 1: come to terms with it accepted. I believe acceptance is
Speaker 1: part of it, moving on, accepting your your mistakes, accepting
Speaker 1: your behaviors. Accepting that is part of being able to
Speaker 1: move on and let go. But do you have any
Speaker 1: before we let you go? Any more tips and tricks
Speaker 1: to give our listeners. I let's just say this, I mean,
Speaker 1: just kind of really taking in that it is. It
Speaker 1: is an active choice because if we kin kind of
Speaker 1: wait for it to happen to us, you know, moving
Speaker 1: towards the fire to use your dad's ideas. We usually
Speaker 1: can't get out of our own way. We keep repeating
Speaker 1: the patterns that we're used to, right, so if we
Speaker 1: kind of have a passive approach it, it's hard to
Speaker 1: make a shift. So it can feel a bit overwhelming.
Speaker 1: But the idea of like just one active thing, one thing,
Speaker 1: one little thing that's different, and picking from any of
Speaker 1: the things that I talked about before, you know, opening
Speaker 1: up to your partner, opening up to a friend in
Speaker 1: a way that you typically don't, making an appointment with
Speaker 1: a therapist, you know, journaling, even sitting down and meditating
Speaker 1: for two minutes and focusing on your breathing. Just interrupting
Speaker 1: your way of being with some consciousness and mindfulness and
Speaker 1: exploration of emotions if possible, in just the smallest way,
Speaker 1: can begin to open the door. So I think it's
Speaker 1: it's like a twofold message. Yes you have to be active,
Speaker 1: but it can also be really small. You can do
Speaker 1: in these tiny little whispers, these tiny little increments, and
Speaker 1: start to build that muscle for it instead of doing
Speaker 1: like it has to be um you know, very dramatic
Speaker 1: shift from one moment to another to make anything. I
Speaker 1: love that. Also, as I was listening to you talk there,
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about, Um, I'm thinking really about
Speaker 1: a listener out there who's listening to this and has
Speaker 1: something that they want to bring up, whether to a
Speaker 1: romantic partner, to a friend, to a family member, whatever,
Speaker 1: they have something that they want to bring up. Doing
Speaker 1: so to a person in your life is actually going
Speaker 1: to be an amazing filter for the people in your life.
Speaker 1: So if I have something that's vulnerable, insecure, something that
Speaker 1: I need, whatever it is that I need to bring
Speaker 1: up to say it's to Gav and he completely rejects
Speaker 1: it or makes fun of it or shuts it down,
Speaker 1: that to me is a great filter on what kind
Speaker 1: of person this is. Or if he leans in and says,
Speaker 1: tell me more, how can I help, Like I'm here
Speaker 1: for you. I actually struggle with that as well, Like
Speaker 1: I'm here whatever you need. Like that is an amazing
Speaker 1: filter for the quality of people in your life. So
Speaker 1: I do want to encourage people to have that courage
Speaker 1: to open up, to lead the discussion, to step forward
Speaker 1: and say I want to talk to you. I actually
Speaker 1: have something that I'm really that's really giving me anxiety
Speaker 1: and issues, and I don't want it to be a
Speaker 1: an issue in my life anymore. Can I talk to
Speaker 1: about this with you? Can? I trust you? And the
Speaker 1: response from that person you'll find out pretty soon, I
Speaker 1: mean what what the quality of that person is. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: try to give you a lot of information about the
Speaker 1: people in your life. From that standpoint, maybe it feels
Speaker 1: less risky because you may find out, Wow, this person
Speaker 1: is available to me in a way that I didn't
Speaker 1: know or or didn't fully accept or embrace. And and
Speaker 1: maybe you find out like, Okay, this kind of stuff
Speaker 1: isn't totally safe with this person, right. I have a
Speaker 1: clinical uh term, it's called that person sucks. That's what
Speaker 1: we call it. Um Dr Hilary, Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: I love your mission? I just absolutely love it. I'd
Speaker 1: love to have you come in studio one day and
Speaker 1: talk to us because, UM, I have people in my
Speaker 1: family who go through and close friends who go through depression,
Speaker 1: UM anxiety, people that are dealing with trauma and grief.
Speaker 1: We all are at some degree of time and it
Speaker 1: comes in ebbs and flows and cycles, and sometimes things
Speaker 1: come up. I'm actually dealing with working through hockey, working
Speaker 1: through retiring from hockey. It's something that I want to
Speaker 1: do in and I'm unpacking. I'm currently on a journey
Speaker 1: unpacking the traumas and griefs and resentments and frustrations and
Speaker 1: failures and all of this stuff that I'm carrying from
Speaker 1: my career in a sport that I don't want to
Speaker 1: carry with me anymore moving into my life. So um,
Speaker 1: I would love to even personally, even just sit down
Speaker 1: with you, but have you in studio, so many more
Speaker 1: people can benefit. But right now, before we do that,
Speaker 1: where could people find you that are listening right now? Yes, well,
Speaker 1: you and you're listener can find me at Dr Hillary
Speaker 1: fold Sure dot com and it's two L s h
Speaker 1: I L l A R Y g O L D
Speaker 1: s h e er dot com and we'll have these
Speaker 1: in the show notes. Yeah, that's it. Thank you so much. Thanks,
Speaker 1: I'd love to come in and talk more about yeah. Please, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll have to make that happen for sure. Okay, thank you,
Speaker 1: Dr Hillary, appreciate your time so much. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: You've you've been so helpful to myself and and to
Speaker 1: our listeners and gav you never need to help your
Speaker 1: perfect buddy. But You're perfect Brooks. Thank you, Dr Hillary.
Speaker 1: We appreciate you. Thanks Doc, Buddy, we crushed out again.
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Speaker 1: We have more topics that we didn't get to today.
Speaker 1: We didn't have enough time to um. But there's marriage
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Speaker 1: basically we need to work on our laundry. Um. You
Speaker 1: probably just buy new clothes, you don't even launder them sometimes.
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