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Speaker 1: Thursday night. It is May seventh year, Our Lord, twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: This is obviously not the studio, this is not even Nashville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: But it is Late Kick and it is live, and

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Speaker 1: we got a lot to talk about tonight. I'm just

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Speaker 1: at an undisclosed location apart from Colin tonight, and it's

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Speaker 1: not easy for me emotionally, nor is it probably actually

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Speaker 1: it's probably a lot easier for him, but we'll get

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Speaker 1: through it. So we got a lot to talk about tonight.

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Speaker 1: reviews just continue to flow in, some nice written reviews too,

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Speaker 1: are helping us out a whole lot more than you

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Speaker 1: could ever know. So I got a lot to get

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Speaker 1: to tonight. I'm going to leave the show in a

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Speaker 1: couple of seconds with a topic that, to be blunt

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Speaker 1: with you, is probably going to impact virtually every program.

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Speaker 1: So no matter who you are listening or watching, no

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Speaker 1: matter who you pull for, even if you're just a

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Speaker 1: conference tattoo on the ankle sort of guy or girl,

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Speaker 1: this will impact you. And I'm talking about this tsunami

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Speaker 1: of eminent decommitments in the recruiting world, which is the

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Speaker 1: lifeblood as we know of college football.

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Speaker 2: There's a reason for it.

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Speaker 1: And I got some good old fashioned numbers here on

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Speaker 1: the computer to.

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Speaker 2: Back it up.

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Speaker 1: I'm also going to talk because I had when we

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Speaker 1: were recording the Late Kick Extra podcast someone talk about

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Speaker 1: Gus Malson. And usually the questions for Malzon or regarding

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Speaker 1: Malzon are very different depending on if they're from Auburn

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Speaker 1: folks or just neutral observers. So I got something from

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Speaker 1: an Auburn guy the other day. It wasn't asking it

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Speaker 1: with any kind of vitriol, it was just being honest

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Speaker 1: given his assessment. So I'm gonna give you my assessment. Also,

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Speaker 1: I had some pushback from a lot of you. I

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Speaker 1: wasn't going to talk about this tonight, but I'm scanning

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Speaker 1: the comments as I do. I read every single email,

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Speaker 1: every single tweet, every single comment, and a surprising number

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Speaker 1: of you, i would say not all, not even a

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Speaker 1: vast majority, but surprising number of you took exception to

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Speaker 1: me saying the ceiling for Tennessee football is now and

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Speaker 1: has always been elite status, top of the sport, right

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Speaker 1: there with Alabama, Texas if they're good, you know, if

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Speaker 1: they're right, Clemson, what they're doing right now, LSU, what

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Speaker 1: they just did, like Tennessee is fully capable of that.

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Speaker 1: A lot of you flat out called you know what

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Speaker 1: on that. I think you're wrong. I think you're very wrong,

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Speaker 1: and I think I'm right. Everyone thinks they're right on everything.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you why I think I'm right

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Speaker 1: and why I think a lot of folks who suggested

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Speaker 1: otherwise are wrong, and then I'm going to do some

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Speaker 1: Q and at the end of the show, cause we've

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Speaker 1: got some good questions. So let's get it started here.

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Speaker 1: This probably he's not paying me to do this, but

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Speaker 1: this is probably the third show in a row where

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Speaker 1: I'm going to reference our Bud Elliott. And it's because

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Speaker 1: he's doing really good work.

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Speaker 2: All those guys on the twenty four to seven sports

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Speaker 2: desk are doing really good work. But Bud.

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Speaker 1: We were in a conference call the other day and someone,

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Speaker 1: in fact, a couple of people had brought up how

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Speaker 1: many commitments there have been and you know you hear that,

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Speaker 1: and he goes in one ear and out the other. Okay,

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Speaker 1: well you said a lot, but that didn't put a

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Speaker 1: of reference, like what is a lot in reference to what?

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Speaker 2: So Bud puts together a piece.

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Speaker 1: Because he started it off like I just started.

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Speaker 2: It off with you.

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Speaker 1: He said, you know, Ted Hyman, who does a great

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Speaker 1: accurate as of May sixth. I want you to think

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Speaker 1: but then I'm going to give you the context. There

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Speaker 1: are six hundred and twenty seven committed recruits in the

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Speaker 1: to really write about it. Coaches have been talking about this,

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Speaker 1: and there's a difference in philosophy out there. You'll notice

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Speaker 1: it right now if you look at the twenty four

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Speaker 1: to seven Sports team recruiting rankings in how to Handle,

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Speaker 1: as Matthew McConaughey so aptly described it a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks ago when we interviewed him these COVID nineteen times. Okay,

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Speaker 1: some of these coaches, especially the ones at the very

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban at Alabama's one of them. He wants to

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Speaker 1: get guys in camp. He wants to put his eyeballs

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Speaker 1: called a committable offer in the recruiting world, can't do it.

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Speaker 1: You've had some programs, and I don't think it's that

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Speaker 1: difficult to figure out who we're talking about here, who

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Speaker 1: have decided let's go relatively speaking sight unseen. Let's trust

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Speaker 1: as we've been able to see kids. Maybe it's sophomore

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Speaker 2: Here's what happens.

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Speaker 1: You have sort of we use the word tsunami already tonight,

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Speaker 1: But you have sort of a ripple effect. Let's not

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Speaker 1: use tsunami a ripple effect. So I got Matt sitting

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Speaker 1: But let's say Matt and I both want to go

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Speaker 1: Let's say a dozen other guys commit, a couple of

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Speaker 1: they're filling up. Well, what in turn does that pressure

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Speaker 1: sure I lock down a spot too. That's what's happening,

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Speaker 1: and that's what Bud's pointing out here, and that's what

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Speaker 1: and I have talked about at varying degrees, Minnesota. We've

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Speaker 1: talked about North Carolina killing it. I think North Carolina's

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Speaker 1: got a lot more staying power than some of these others,

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Speaker 1: cause the guys they're landing are in state kids. But

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Speaker 1: we talked about Tennessee. I'm going to talk about Tennessee

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Speaker 1: later on this show. We've spoken about oh who else been?

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Speaker 1: If you look at the top fifteen right now, there

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Speaker 1: that are normally parked squarely inside the top five, top

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Speaker 1: ten that aren't there right now. So Bud continues here.

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Speaker 1: Keep in mind that prospects or scram to secure spots

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of kids right now who are

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Speaker 1: So I gave you the six hundred and twenty seven

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Speaker 1: The twenty twenty one recruiting cycle, there were six hundred

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Speaker 1: the whole synchronicity thing, we're not going to have synchronicity

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Speaker 2: Going to be impacted.

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Speaker 1: Bud talks about this, I believe, towards the end of

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Speaker 1: this article. In fact, let me pull let me pull

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Speaker 1: begin dropping some of the players that are recruited.

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Speaker 2: This happens every cycle.

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Speaker 1: You can certainly bet your bottom dollar if coaches do

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Speaker 1: oh boy, we took some kids we normally wouldn't take.

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Speaker 2: So it's going to be a two way street. Now.

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Speaker 1: Some kids are going to be decommitting. Some kids are

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Speaker 1: any further than the Nick Saban factor to talk about

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Speaker 1: how I think underrated Gus Malson. Is Malson's beaten Saban

436
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Speaker 1: three times. He's been there since twenty thirteen. He beat

437
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Speaker 1: him in twenty thirteen, he beat him in twenty seventeen.

438
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Speaker 1: He beat him just this past year in twenty nineteen

439
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Speaker 1: odd number years. Are Auburn's friend against the University of

440
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Speaker 1: Alabama combined, Sorry I just bumped the mic there, combined

441
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Speaker 1: the rest of the SEC. Take away Alabama they can't

442
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Speaker 1: beat themselves. Take away Auburn, take them out of the quation.

443
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Speaker 1: They're twelve other programs in the SEC. Combine all the

444
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Speaker 1: head coaches down here. Do you know how many other

445
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Speaker 1: head coaches right now that are active in the SEC

446
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Speaker 1: have a win over Nick Saban One I'm holding up

447
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Speaker 1: the one finger for those of you listening, and that

448
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Speaker 1: would be Edward or Jeron and he just did it

449
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Speaker 1: this past year. That leaves, by my estimation, eleven other

450
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Speaker 1: programs out there with the head coaches who have never

451
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Speaker 1: beaten them, one of them that just did it like

452
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Speaker 1: five minutes ago, and then a gust ma Alzan who's

453
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Speaker 1: done it three times. He also has to live in

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Speaker 1: the same state as Nick Saban, therefore recruit in the

455
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Speaker 1: same state as Nick Saban, and Auburn's done pretty good

456
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Speaker 1: in state. They haven't beaten Alabama head to head for

457
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Speaker 1: many kids in state, they have done it a time

458
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Speaker 1: or two.

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Speaker 2: They haven't done it consistently. They got to go into

460
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Speaker 2: Georgia and recruit.

461
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Speaker 1: Guess who's over there, Kirby Smart you try to go

462
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Speaker 1: into East Texas and recruit, and Texas A and M

463
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 1: doing a pretty darn good job out there, and so

464
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Speaker 1: is Texas even if they haven't necessarily won with him.

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Speaker 1: LSU used to have a lot of success done in Louisiana.

466
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Speaker 1: LSU is down there right now. What in the world did.

467
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Speaker 2: They just do? They just won a national championship.

468
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Speaker 1: So think about what it takes to win in this sport.

469
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Speaker 1: They must have immaculate facilities, right, nice facilities. They're not

470
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Speaker 1: running circles around anyone in the SEC. Very rarely when

471
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Speaker 1: you ask someone, hey, best facilities in the SEC go

472
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Speaker 1: very rarely is Auburn going to crack anyone's top four,

473
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Speaker 1: top five?

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Speaker 2: What is it that stands out?

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's got to be like when you coach

476
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Speaker 1: at Oregon and you win there, people always say, yeah,

477
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Speaker 1: but they got the Nike factor.

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Speaker 2: What does Auburn have?

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Speaker 1: What advantage behind the scenes that we don't know about

480
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Speaker 1: disgust Malazon have. So there are a lot of things

481
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Speaker 1: working against him. There is all I'm saying, and I think,

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Speaker 1: with all that considered, I think he's done a pretty

483
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Speaker 1: good job. Now as soon as I suggest that, I'll

484
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Speaker 1: look in the comments and mark my words, and people

485
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Speaker 1: are going to point out all kinds of negatives that

486
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Speaker 1: are just fact and not understand that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's your con list.

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Speaker 1: You forgot the prose list over here, because there are

489
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Speaker 1: quite a few pros too. And I just anytime someone

490
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Speaker 1: criticizes their coach, I don't have a problem with it,

491
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Speaker 1: especially when you do what you're asked. Auburn fans do

492
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Speaker 1: what they're asked. They show up and they support and

493
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Speaker 1: they give. So anytime you do that. I've said it

494
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Speaker 1: about Georgia a million times. I don't have a problem

495
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Speaker 1: with your sky high expectations. Whether they're realistic or not,

496
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Speaker 1: that's another conversation. I don't have a problem with them.

497
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Speaker 1: But here's what I do, ask, kindly, respectfully, who you

498
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Speaker 1: going to get to do it better? Because it's easy

499
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Speaker 1: for part A of that conversation, let's get rid of

500
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Speaker 1: this guy. Let's run them out of town on a rail.

501
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Speaker 1: The part B, well, now we've got a vacancy. Who's

502
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Speaker 1: going to fill it? That's tough. And not just who's

503
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Speaker 1: going to fill it, you can find a warm body

504
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Speaker 1: to fill it. To justify getting rid of a head

505
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Speaker 1: coach in any situation that doesn't involve scan, you've got

506
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Speaker 1: to have someone who can't just come in and do

507
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Speaker 1: an equal job. They got to come in and do

508
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Speaker 1: a better job. So who's going to do it better

509
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Speaker 1: than Gus maus On? I haven't found anyone. I haven't

510
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Speaker 1: found any realistic candidates. I mean, I know this last year.

511
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Speaker 1: I had folks try to preach to me that urban

512
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Speaker 1: Meyer was on the table.

513
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Speaker 2: No he wasn't, No, he wouldn't be. I don't think

514
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Speaker 2: I really, I don't.

515
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Speaker 1: Think I need to detail why he wouldn't be so

516
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Speaker 1: better situation at Auburn right now than I think a

517
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Speaker 1: lot of people realize now. I think a lot of

518
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Speaker 1: people do realize how good Tennessee's got it at the moment. However,

519
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: if you don't pay attention to recruiting, you must be

520
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Speaker 1: pretty darn confused right now about the hype around Tennessee,

521
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Speaker 1: because that is what the hype is coming from. The

522
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Speaker 1: hype is coming from recruiting. Just recruiting matter to you.

523
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Speaker 1: It should, but maybe it doesn't. I, judging by the

524
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Speaker 1: comment section, have been informed that a lot of people

525
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Speaker 1: really don't care about recruiting all that much. So I'm

526
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Speaker 1: scrolling the other day, as I told you, I read

527
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Speaker 1: every one of these comments. How should I framed this?

528
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Speaker 1: I know how I want to frame it. So the

529
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Speaker 1: other day we've talked about Tennessee. Like the last four shows,

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Speaker 1: I can't help it. Guys, they keep landing recruits, they

531
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Speaker 1: keep landing verbal commitments from recruits.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me preface point one.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people hear what I don't say strangely enough,

534
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Speaker 1: so I got to make sure I point out what

535
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Speaker 1: I am and what I am not saying about to

536
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Speaker 1: have to do that again.

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Speaker 2: So Tennessee, they're landing a bunch of kids. And I'm

538
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Speaker 2: not just.

539
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Speaker 1: Talking about project three star with future three year down

540
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Speaker 1: the road potential. I'm talking about big time, five star

541
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Speaker 1: talent out of Alabama, five star talent out of South Florida.

542
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Speaker 1: They've gotten kids out of Georgia, Juco kid top running

543
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Speaker 1: back in the country from South Carolina, and Juco right

544
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Speaker 1: now in Kansas.

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Speaker 2: So and it keeps going.

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Speaker 1: They probably landed a couple of kids since we've been

547
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Speaker 1: on air, So as we led the show talking about

548
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Speaker 1: they could stick, maybe they don't. I like where Tennessee

549
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Speaker 1: is right now in recruiting. That's all I'm saying. Here's

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Speaker 1: what I'm not saying. What I'm not saying is well,

551
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Speaker 1: you can go and pencil them into Atlanta within the

552
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Speaker 1: next couple of years. I don't know that. You don't listen.

553
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Speaker 1: I don't know that about a loaded team. I can't

554
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Speaker 1: say that about Florida, and Florida's roster's better than Florida

555
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: right now. You know who you have to go through

556
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Speaker 1: in the East. That name that shan't be mentioned, Georgia.

557
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Speaker 1: So I'm looking at the comment sections. In the comment section,

558
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Speaker 1: the Tennessee fans are jacked, as you should be. And

559
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Speaker 1: then I got some folks. This is how you know

560
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Speaker 1: you still got some work to do. I mean, I

561
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Speaker 1: kid you not. I read one comment that said, I'm

562
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Speaker 1: a Bama fan, but you know I do want to

563
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Speaker 1: I want to see Tennessee back. It's just boring to

564
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Speaker 1: beat up on them like we've been doing well. That's

565
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: when you know you're not back yet. That's when you

566
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Speaker 1: know you still got hay to put in the barn.

567
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Speaker 1: You want them to despise you. You remember, you remember

568
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Speaker 1: it's been about a decade since that rivalry has been relevant,

569
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Speaker 1: But you know, you remember what it was like in

570
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Speaker 1: Tuscaloosa and surrounding areas when Bill Former tried to decapitate

571
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Speaker 1: your program. You remember that. A lot of you haven't forgotten.

572
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Speaker 1: Apparently in the comment section some of you have. So

573
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about this, and I'm thinking the other night

574
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Speaker 1: when I was on the which led me to say

575
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Speaker 1: on the air, Tennessee, a lot of people are shocked

576
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Speaker 1: by the commitments, a lot of people making accusations about

577
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Speaker 1: all these commitments. And I'm like, Tennessee has never lacked

578
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Speaker 1: the ability to build an elite roster. They've never lacked

579
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Speaker 1: the ability to have a roster every bit as skilled

580
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Speaker 1: and talented. Important to have both of them skilled and

581
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Speaker 1: talented as anyone.

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Speaker 2: Else in America.

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Speaker 1: I got a lot of a surprising amount of pushback,

584
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Speaker 1: be honest with you, I got a lot of surprising

585
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Speaker 1: amount of pushback on that. And so that leads me

586
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Speaker 1: to ask, what is it you think they don't have.

587
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Speaker 1: If you're in that camp that believes Tennessee's ceiling is

588
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Speaker 1: below the elite level, In other words, they can press

589
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Speaker 1: all the right buttons, and there are just unforeseen factors

590
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Speaker 1: very present, but unforeseen or unseen in the world of

591
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Speaker 1: college football that limits their ceiling.

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Speaker 2: What is that?

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Speaker 1: You know, a crop duster can't fly as high as

594
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Speaker 1: a commercial jet can. There is an artificial ceiling built

595
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Speaker 1: in on that crop duster. So Tennessee like, what's the

596
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Speaker 1: ceiling here? And if if it's lower than elite status,

597
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: what is it that's keeping them there? Because here's what

598
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Speaker 1: I think to steal another transportation analogy. My first vehicle

599
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 1: was a ninety four GMC Sierra. I drove it a

600
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Speaker 1: long long time, loved it, had no problem with it,

601
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: was very thankful for it. But it wasn't a Lamborghini,

602
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 1: And so we didn't have a lot of those at

603
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Speaker 1: Harris County High School. To be honest with you had

604
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Speaker 1: a couple. You know what kind of kids those turned

605
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Speaker 1: out to be. But the ninety four GMC at its

606
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Speaker 1: peak efficiency. If I pulled up next to a Lamborghini

607
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 1: and the thing was sitting on blocks because the tires

608
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Speaker 1: were flat, how stupid would it be for me to

609
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: laugh at the capability of that vehicle?

610
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Speaker 2: I didn't say there was smoke coming from under the hood.

611
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Speaker 1: I didn't say that the entire axle was bent and

612
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Speaker 1: it was irreparable.

613
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 2: I just said the tires are flat.

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Speaker 1: As soon as someone comes and fixes the tires on

615
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Speaker 1: this Lamborghini, it can embarrass me.

616
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Speaker 2: It can donut me.

617
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: It can be like Tokyo drift, and it can just

618
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Speaker 1: make me look foolish in that truck, no matter how

619
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Speaker 1: well I have that truck running, Cause the Lamborghini ceiling

620
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: is a lot higher, with all due respect to me

621
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Speaker 1: and other former ninety four GMCC era owners than the

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Speaker 1: aforementioned ninety four gmcc era. My point is Tennessee's capability

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Speaker 1: level is that of a Lamborghini. This is not Miami

624
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Speaker 1: of Ohio, and this is not even Missouri. And I

625
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Speaker 1: don't mean that disrespectfully to Missouri, but I intentionally say

626
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Speaker 1: Missouri because I'm about to bring up a point in

627
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Speaker 1: a second. But I want you to ask yourself if

628
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Speaker 1: you believe there is a built in ceiling for Tennessee

629
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Speaker 1: below elite status. Let's dive into it a little bit. Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma,

630
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Speaker 1: LSU pick the elite teams in college football, Ohio State,

631
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Speaker 1: what keeps Tennessee from being that. I'm not asking you

632
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: what has kept them from being that? That's the easy answer,

633
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: that's the obvious answer. What would keep them if all

634
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: the right buttons were pressed from being that?

635
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Speaker 2: It's not a guessing game. Here's why I mentioned Missouri Missouri.

636
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Speaker 1: Even if they started rolling, which they did under Gary

637
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Speaker 1: Pinkel a time or two, there was a fair amount

638
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Speaker 1: of questioning done about that program in regard to how

639
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: good could they really get? Like, Man, they played in

640
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: the SEC championship game. Think a couple times, didn't they?

641
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: And you know, if you're in the SEC championship conversation,

642
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: you're in the national championship conversation.

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Speaker 2: But people were fairly asking.

644
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Speaker 1: Man, Missouri is in well, Columbia, Missouri, there's no real

645
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Speaker 1: pipeline of talent there, the likes of which you get

646
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Speaker 1: in Gainesville, Florida, or Athens, Georgia, Austin, Texas, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: How long can this last? What is the ceiling on

648
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Speaker 2: that program?

649
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: That was fair and the ceiling for Missouri football sustained

650
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: ceiling is below elite status at Tennessee.

651
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 2: It's not like that.

652
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Speaker 1: Here's how I know they've done it already and They've

653
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: been a national contender in different eras with different coaches.

654
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: If you want to go mid late eighties into the

655
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety time frame, Johnny Majors did it there. If

656
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: you want to go late nineties, Philip Former won a

657
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: national championship there, won back to back SEC championships ninety

658
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: seven ninety eight. Believe don't quote me on that, but

659
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: won a national championship. That's only a little over twenty

660
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: years ago. Some of you aren't twenty years old, but yet,

661
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: in college football relativity, twenty years not all that long

662
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: a time. But even if it is, if you're telling

663
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: me they're not capable of it now, that must mean

664
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: something's changed in the sport. As far as I can tell,

665
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: Knoxville's in the same place. As far as I can tell,

666
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: they still care a great deal about football there. So

667
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: if you're telling me they're not capable anymore something that

668
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: they have achieved already, I've seen it. I can go

669
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: back and watch the old VHS replays. Something must have changed.

670
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: So what is it? Because to me, it's not a

671
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: guessing game of what they're capable of. If they've already

672
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: proven it, what does it take? What are the requirements.

673
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: This is something you'll hear us talk about from time

674
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: to time on this show. You got to have a

675
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: really big support base that's just a fan base that's rabid,

676
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: that cares. They have to be fully bought in. There's

677
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: a reason they got to be big in number, and

678
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: they got to be fully bought in because you got

679
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: to have money and you get it in the TV

680
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: deals as a result of being in a conference line

681
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: the SEC and the revenue sharing program there. But you

682
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: need projects, and you need checks written, and you need

683
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: to hire the best coaching staff that money can buy

684
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: and the optimum where there is money, and you got

685
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: to have a big fan base fully bought in because

686
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: they need to write those checks. Tennessee has all this.

687
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: This is not something they lack, trust me, they have it.

688
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: You have to have facilities, which obviously is required to build.

689
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: Tennessee's got great facilities.

690
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: And if they're lacking today, they possess the war chest

691
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: to catch up tomorrow. So that's nothing that they're lacking in.

692
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: And this is the one that a lot of people

693
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: go to. I think you got to have access to

694
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: red hot recruiting beds. If you're not parked there geographically,

695
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: you got to have ties to get there. Here's where

696
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: I think people are wrong. Just to be honest with you,

697
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: if you don't think Tennessee can recruit at the same

698
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: level Georgia can with the right staff in place. I'm

699
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: not using the past couple of weeks as anecdotal evidence.

700
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: Let's pretend the last three weeks have not even happened.

701
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: Let's pretend Tennessee's rink twenty first in recruiting. We're talking

702
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: about what the cape of love, not what they're doing

703
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: at this very moment that could evaporate tomorrow.

704
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: Tennessee's in Knoxville. I've always been a big believer.

705
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: If you get the right staff in there, and you

706
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: expand that radius out six hours and look at all

707
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: of the territory that is in that six hour circle

708
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: around Knoxville, Tennessee, and you think about getting Atlanta there

709
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: and virtually all of the Carolinas, and getting up into

710
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: parts of Virginia close to the tide water. You recruit

711
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: Ohio in the most fertile beds. At least you've got

712
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: the state of Tennessee, you got North Alabama, you got

713
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: parts of Mississippi. I want to say and I'll have

714
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: a map ri it in front of me. But take

715
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: that and now combine it with having guys on your

716
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: staff that have whether you be T Martin connections out west,

717
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: whether you be Jeremy Pruitt, connections all over the South,

718
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: but especially in Alabama that just paid dividends with Dylan

719
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: Brooks out of a Rowanoke, Alabama. People, there is no

720
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: Tennessee to Roanoak, Alabama pipeline. There just isn't, never has been,

721
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: never will be. And South Florida as well. When you

722
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: look at the staff they have and you look at

723
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: some emerging stars they have, that's the right combination. That's

724
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: the kind of coaching staff that you have to have.

725
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: But I just mentioned a whole bunch of prerequisites that

726
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: it takes to be elite. That's what I think it

727
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: takes to the elite. Those are the boxes you have

728
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: to check. Maybe I left something out that you know about,

729
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: or maybe you don't think one of these matters.

730
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: I'd love to hear.

731
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,959
Speaker 1: It, because Tennessee, as far as I can as far

732
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: as I can tell, they're capable of checking all these boxes.

733
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: Now here's what I didn't say.

734
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: This is the part where we have to give the

735
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: great big asterisk next to the segment, and we have

736
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: to give one final caveat. What I didn't say is

737
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: this last couple of weeks proves anything in terms of

738
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: what results will be. We also don't know if Jeremy

739
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: Pruitt is going to end up being the right head coach. Now,

740
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: if you're asking me what I think, absolutely and I

741
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: bet money on him, I think he is, and I

742
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: think their staff is and I think that they possess,

743
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: as I said, the war chest to keep those guys

744
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: in house. I think the balance is right up there.

745
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: So they got a lot of ingredients in the kitchen.

746
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: What's the meal going to look like? That's the big

747
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: question that I can't wait to see answered every bit

748
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: as much as you can't wait. But here's what I

749
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: do know. What I do know is I've watched that team. Now,

750
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 1: these are my eyeballs talking. I'm not a former coach.

751
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm not going to bring out a grease board and

752
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: insult your intelligence or mine making you think I am

753
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 1: qualified to break this game down at that kind of level.

754
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: But these eyeballs saw Tennessee play Alabama pretty tough last year.

755
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: Had no chance of beating them because of the talent golf.

756
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: These eyeballs have seen Jeremy Pruitt push Georgia don't really

757
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: have much of a chance of beating them yet because

758
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: of the talent golf. That's unless Georgia goes like, you know,

759
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: minus four turnovers, like they didn't get South Carolina. If

760
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: you have the coaching staff in place, if you have

761
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: the football minds in place, and then you toss a

762
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: whole bunch more talent in there, that talent gets turned

763
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: into skill because they know how to turn it into skill,

764
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: and they get put in the right place, and they

765
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: get trained the right way, and then all of a sudden,

766
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: you got a different caliber athlete with which to harness

767
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: your hopes and dreams to then things get really fun.

768
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 1: So I think that's coming. I don't think that's an if.

769
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: I think that's a whim. I think a lot of

770
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: you who disagree, we just differ in terms of what

771
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: we think Tennessee's capable of. That's really I think the

772
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: crux of that entire debate, If you want to call

773
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: it that, I'm happy to have it.

774
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: I have been wrong a time or two.

775
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: I just really feel pretty confident about this one some

776
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: questions here, Chase was on YouTube and this was the

777
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: other day and I didn't get to it, and I

778
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: felt bad because I also left it on the cutting

779
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: groom floor for the YouTube extra podcast. So, Chase, here

780
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: we go. Which PAC twelve team is closest to closing

781
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: the gap with the best teams in the SEC and

782
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: the Big Ten? And I'm going to add Clemson in

783
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: there too, and I'm gonna add Oklahoma in there. Chase,

784
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: to me, it's a multi part question, even though you

785
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: didn't put multiple parts in this question, because I want

786
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: you to think about this. The short answer is Mario

787
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: Cristaball in Oregon. Let me get that out of the way.

788
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: Here's the bigger question. Bigger question is if let's say

789
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: Mario Cristaball, for example, builds or to the caliber that

790
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: it takes to annually contend with the best teams in America,

791
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: how long's he at Oregon when you start to talk

792
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: about the gap between the PAC twelve and for example,

793
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: the SEC. That's why I think Chris baw would end

794
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: up heading if you talk about that gap and what

795
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: a middle of the road or upper tier SCC program

796
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: in all sorts of different arenas versus what the PAC

797
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: twelve is doing to you in terms of limitation has

798
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: nothing to do with organ This is a PAC twelve problem.

799
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 1: You guys out there on the West Coast know exactly

800
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Half the time. You can't find

801
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: your own games. I certainly can't find them down in

802
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: Georgia or Tennessee.

803
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: You got to ask, do the best coaches in America?

804
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: This is a hard pill to swallow if the answer

805
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: is no, But it's a pill that we at least

806
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: have to put on the table. Do the best coaches

807
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: in America, either present day or as they become known

808
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: as the best head coaches in America still view the

809
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: PAC twelve as the equal It's a power five, But

810
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: do they view it as an equal to these other

811
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: major conferences? Because if you succeed, the offers are going

812
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: to come. Because there's an annual turnover rate of like

813
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: a twenty five percent, and the major conferences. When it

814
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: comes to jobs opening up, this historically that's kind of

815
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: a fifteen twenty five percent somewhere like that. Jobs are

816
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: going to open up at major programs. Jobs are going

817
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: to open up. Where are they going to look they're

818
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: going to look to a guy like Mario Christobal. What

819
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 1: kind of competition can you put in front of him

820
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 1: in terms of an offer to keep him from taking

821
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: that bait.

822
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: Cause there's a lot of reasons to move on.

823
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: No matter how much you love Oregan, no matter how

824
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: much you love Southern cal You, no matter how much

825
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: you love programs that a generation ago, even ten years ago,

826
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: this went a conversation as much nearly as it is now,

827
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: because now it's not a program problem more than it

828
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: is a conference problem. That's why I'm not This is

829
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: not meant to be disrespectful to Oregon at all. I'm

830
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: pulling for you guys. But at the same time, I

831
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: think it's an honest question that's not very much fault

832
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: of your own. Dawson through the email inbox. What's the

833
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: best city for hosting a national title game? I don't

834
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: know what everyone else's criteria here is, but I love

835
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: New Orleans. I had been there for a playoff game,

836
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: which was the Alabama Clemson semi final a couple of

837
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: years ago, and then we were back there to cover

838
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 1: the National championship game this past January, and uh, there's

839
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: just nothing New Orleans does wrong. I've never been a

840
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: fan outside of Pasadena, CA, where it never rains. I've

841
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: never been a fan of holding meaningful college football games,

842
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: postseason games in places where weather can be a factor. Now,

843
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: oh boy, this is where I have big disagreement with

844
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: some of my buddies, especially from Big Ten Country, who

845
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: argue the elements are part of football. There's no one

846
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: who enjoys watching weather impact a football game more than

847
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: me because I'm a weather nerd always have been. I've

848
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: loved weather longer than I've loved football, So it is

849
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: like crack on a television screen for me to watch

850
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: like that.

851
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: Who was it?

852
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: A few year it was like Notre Dame in NC

853
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: State played in just a downpour. I was at that

854
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: Bama Georgia game in twenty fifteen when there was a

855
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: tropical system coming through.

856
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: Got like two inches of rain during that game.

857
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: I love that stuff in the regular season, but when

858
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: the games mean the most, man, I don't like factors

859
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: like the elements and weather to be in play, so

860
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: I automatically cross off places like Tampa calls us outdoor

861
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: stadium could have a rain shower come through. I was

862
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: at the Clemson who is a Clemson Bama game in

863
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: Santa Clara got lucky with weather, but the weather leading

864
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: up the days prior miserable and Northern California is not

865
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: Southern California, folks, and their national championship game never had

866
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: any business being in the San Francisco forty nine ers Stadium.

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Speaker 1: That's when the wrong folks are making decisions for college

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Speaker 1: football when you got a college football national championship game

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Speaker 1: happening in Levi Stadium. Nice stadium, just not where college

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Speaker 1: football national championship game should be. So Dawson, my answer

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Speaker 1: is New Orleans. I loved the way that they treated

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Speaker 1: us in Glendale. That's Phoenix, basically Arizona. The Rose bowls

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Speaker 1: awesome too. Miami does a good job. None of these

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Speaker 1: places they do a bad job. They don't get the game.

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Speaker 1: These are veterans, I mean they do this stuff all

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Speaker 1: the time. My personal favorite's been New Orleans. Caleb Williams

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Speaker 1: question Mark. That was Jeffrey's question Jeffrey and YouTube Caleb

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Speaker 1: Williams question Mark. Caleb Williams is a stud dual threat

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Speaker 1: quarterback out of the Washington, DC area, And I do

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Speaker 1: a hit with Steve Wilffong every Monday Tuesday. It's called

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Speaker 1: the Wiltfong Recruiting whip Around. There is so much information

882
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Speaker 1: in this thing. It's free, guys, you don't have to

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Speaker 1: pay for it. I don't know how long it's gonna

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Speaker 1: stay free. To be quite honest with you, I don't

885
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Speaker 1: think it's the best business decision we've ever made because

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Speaker 1: of how much information is in that video.

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Speaker 2: Get it while you can, is my advice.

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00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: We record it and release it every Tuesday or Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: This week we released it Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: I cannot tell you how plugged in Steve Wilfong is.

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Speaker 1: I had to, you know, I'm not going to burn

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Speaker 1: that for him. Suffice to say, they're like commitments happening

893
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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: Mother's Day.

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Speaker 1: This coming Sunday's the edge, a big commitment day, Wilfong.

896
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Speaker 2: We're having to stop recording.

897
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Speaker 1: We're doing it via zoom, so you got me and

898
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Speaker 1: him split screen on a computer. Not much on like

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at right now. And this guy has to

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Speaker 1: stop recording twice to take calls from the actual kids

901
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: and one Power five head coach at one point just

902
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: flat telling them what's gonna happen. You always wonder does

903
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Speaker 1: that happen. Absolutely, it happens. Plugged in to say the

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Speaker 1: least is Steve Wilfong, So I mentioned that because Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 1: the big talk has been is it Oklahoma? Is it LSU? Well,

906
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Speaker 1: then Garrett Nusmeyer commits to LSU. So you know you're

907
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Speaker 1: just seeing the blocks move around in your head and

908
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: you're thinking, Okay, nus Meyer goes to LSU. Well, I

909
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Speaker 1: guess that means that they're out of it for Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that that's the case now. Before Nussmeyer

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Speaker 1: committed to LSU, I would have called Oklahoma the front

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Speaker 1: runner for Caleb Williams. So obviously I still believe in

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Speaker 1: my information is basically coming from Wilfong. So see wilf

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Speaker 1: as of this week, still believed Oklahoma was the front runner.

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Speaker 1: So my answer, Jeffrey, is Oklahoma being the front runner there. However,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting the pitch that LSU makes here. The pitch

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Speaker 1: is they want to take two bona fide stud quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: and with the way that the quarterback positions work at

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Speaker 1: college football right now, I don't want to ever hear

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Speaker 1: anyone again say why would we take we already have

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Speaker 1: a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: We're already have a couple quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Year over year, the more good quarterbacks you have, the

924
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Speaker 1: less chance you have of them still being on your

925
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Speaker 1: roster the following year. We'll treat it like any other position.

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Speaker 1: That's how coaches look at it nowadays. Just stack them.

927
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Speaker 1: If you don't you don't have a room over here,

928
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Speaker 1: just start a new pile over here. Stack as many

929
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks as you can. That's what I said about J. T. Daniels,

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Speaker 1: who has to this point still not transferred from USC.

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Speaker 1: But some of the Tennessee folks when I suggested maybe Knoxville, said, well,

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Speaker 1: we already got Harrison Bailey. Yeah, and what well we

933
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Speaker 1: got Jared Garantano here got Brian Mauer and prayers for him,

934
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Speaker 1: by the way, with the news that came out by

935
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Speaker 1: him recently. But talking strictly football, it's like, oh, we

936
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Speaker 1: already got a few quarterbacks here. Okay, Well, how many

937
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Speaker 1: do you put on the field at the time. Put

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Speaker 1: one on the field at the time. The other ones

939
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Speaker 1: who are already there know that. So you know, odds

940
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Speaker 1: are no one's keeping three quarterbacks on a roster for

941
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Speaker 1: any extended period of time. Anymore anyway, Tennessee or otherwise.

942
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Speaker 1: But regardless, if there's one out there you think is

943
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Speaker 1: better than the ones you currently have, or if you

944
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Speaker 1: got one out there who's comparable and they want to

945
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Speaker 1: come in and compete, what kind of fool would ever

946
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Speaker 1: turn that down? Probably a head coach who's not gonna

947
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Speaker 1: have a job very much longer. So I don't think

948
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Speaker 1: Jeremy Prutt would be that way, and I don't have

949
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Speaker 1: any inside information on that.

950
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Speaker 2: Hadn't heard anything from JT. Daniels in a while. But

951
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Speaker 2: just just.

952
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Speaker 1: As a general rule of thumb on this show, we

953
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Speaker 1: believe in getting as many great quarterbacks on your roster

954
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Speaker 1: as possible then letting competition settle that. So all I'm

955
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Speaker 1: saying all that for is to say, don't just assume

956
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Speaker 1: because Garrett Nutsmy rather goes to LSU that they're just

957
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Speaker 1: out of the sweepstakes for any other elite quarterback, They're

958
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Speaker 1: certainly not going to stop recruiting them. I can tell

959
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Speaker 1: Tony and Connor always tell me, Hey, just tell the guys.

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Speaker 1: It's a loyal audience. And I know that I've known

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Speaker 1: go find the Late Kick podcast wherever you download podcast.

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Speaker 2: The next best thing.

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Speaker 1: And it's just a it's a really close second. So

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Speaker 1: I plan on being back in Nashville Sunday night. So

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Speaker 1: I'll be back in studio Sunday night. Until then, or

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Speaker 1: has Matt making an appearance over here tonight for Colin

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Speaker 1: back at home base in.

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Speaker 2: Nashville, for Aaron, who will be cutting up this video.

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Speaker 1: We'll parts of this video along with Colin tomorrow for Colin,

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Speaker 1: for Man, Tony, for everybody else that works on this.

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Speaker 2: In some degree, we appreciate you watching. Have a great night.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you back here, same time, Sunday,