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Speaker 1: Fousco and Tony. You know, we kind of brushed past

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Speaker 1: grounded exactly. We've launched a partnership with the good people

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Speaker 1: So we decided, hey, we're gonna start posting them. So

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Speaker 1: you know what you'll probably want to do is, you know,

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Speaker 1: it in a whole different way, right Tony. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: we used to always talk about active listening and the

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Speaker 1: So great, well said Tony. And you know last week

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Speaker 1: right where were right? Alright? First one out the gate.

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Speaker 1: We totally called it. You know, we've been saying all along,

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Speaker 1: a book I want to write. It's the Freddie Mitchell story. No, whoa, whoa?

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Speaker 1: as always, great job, don'ty. Same to you, Pauli, another

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