Speaker 1: Um, good morning everybody. At his time, four Buccaneers Insider Live,
Speaker 1: presented by Miller L. Casey Phillips and Scott Smith here,
Speaker 1: and we have a game to talk about. We have
Speaker 1: an upcoming game to talk about. It is our first
Speaker 1: one that is in the season, so this is exciting.
Speaker 1: We have a lot we can get to for you guys.
Speaker 1: This is where we answer all of your questions. So
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Speaker 1: If you have a question for us, you can leave
Speaker 1: it in the comments section of the live video as
Speaker 1: we give people a chance to do that. Scott, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to hear some of your initial takeaways, things
Speaker 1: that stood out to you from that Week one game. Well,
Speaker 1: the defense looked like it was it was picking up
Speaker 1: where it left off last year to hold Drew Brees
Speaker 1: and the Saints to tune and seventy total yards I
Speaker 1: think maybe five thirteen on third downs. Michael Thomas had
Speaker 1: three catches for seventeen yards. And I think we should
Speaker 1: talk about Carlton Davis at some point in an outstanding
Speaker 1: game he played against him. Uh. They the Saints average
Speaker 1: two point forward yards per carry. Uh, you know the
Speaker 1: difference obviously was the mistakes and the turnovers, which has
Speaker 1: been the case and was obviously the narrative that we
Speaker 1: wanted to change this year, and I still think it
Speaker 1: will change. It just didn't change in the first game.
Speaker 1: The offense, I think, I think it's been said by
Speaker 1: I think it was actually said by Tom Brady before
Speaker 1: the game that this is gonna be a bit of
Speaker 1: a work in progress, figuring out what works best, getting
Speaker 1: everybody on the same page. Everybody's sort of jelling together,
Speaker 1: and I don't think they're there yet. And if you
Speaker 1: look at the teams, there were five teams that uh
Speaker 1: this first week that had a quarterback starting that wasn't
Speaker 1: on the team last year, and only one of those
Speaker 1: teams won. That was the Patriots of Cam Newton. And
Speaker 1: I think you're seeing what a lot of people thought
Speaker 1: would happen. We've talked about it. There's great continuity on
Speaker 1: our defense, but some even with the greatest quarterback of
Speaker 1: all time, you still starting something new, and without any preseason,
Speaker 1: without any offseason, without any scrimmages, without or teams or anything.
Speaker 1: It stands the reason that it might take a little
Speaker 1: while to Jael and I don't think that's what they wanted.
Speaker 1: I And you know, you saw the first drive straight
Speaker 1: down the field, you thought, this is gonna work, this
Speaker 1: is perfect. It wasn't perfect, and there's some things to
Speaker 1: work out, and you know, hopefully in the long run,
Speaker 1: we're gonna see what we expected to see, right and
Speaker 1: we actually it was funny you brought up Carlton the
Speaker 1: very first one of the questions that we had as East.
Speaker 1: I was asking, so, how good did Carlton Davis do? So, um,
Speaker 1: let's let's let's just talk about what what kind of
Speaker 1: a performance you saw from him? The growth and and
Speaker 1: just how now the confidence moving forward knowing this is
Speaker 1: the guy who does tend to cover the number one
Speaker 1: ride receiver on the other team. It's right there in
Speaker 1: the It's right there in the stat sheet. I mean,
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas had three catches for seventeen yards. That's his
Speaker 1: second lowest output ever. It ties the lowest receptions he's
Speaker 1: ever had in the game. I mean, this is the
Speaker 1: guy that catches ten balls game every game. He had
Speaker 1: a hundred forty nine catches last year. Uh, seventeen yards,
Speaker 1: that's his second lowest ever. Um Carlton was following him.
Speaker 1: He was I was watching, he was, you don't know
Speaker 1: what to do this with Carlton Davis. But coach Arian
Speaker 1: said during the during training camp when asked about do
Speaker 1: the Bucks have a guy? Do they want to develop
Speaker 1: a guy that can be a shutdown corner that you
Speaker 1: can if you choose to in any particular game put
Speaker 1: him on the other team's top receiver and follow him around.
Speaker 1: He can really contain him. And he said, we already
Speaker 1: had that guy. He's Carlton Davis. He also said at
Speaker 1: one point, Carlton Davis is a top ten quarterback in
Speaker 1: the league, and what what Davis did really was proved
Speaker 1: that that wasn't hyperbole. It sounded a bit like hyperbole
Speaker 1: at the time, even though he said very matter of factly,
Speaker 1: You're like, wait a minute, He's already won the ten
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the league. In Bruce Arian's mind, clearly,
Speaker 1: that's not his reputation coming into the season because he
Speaker 1: wasn't a Pro Bowler last year and there were more
Speaker 1: than ten quarterbacks that made it to the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: I think his reputation is gonna have to catch up
Speaker 1: with how good he is at this point, because he
Speaker 1: showed it. I mean, if if there was one thing
Speaker 1: that stood out to me in that game, it's it's
Speaker 1: that Carlton Davis is really good. Yeah, and I think
Speaker 1: that he is one of the people that will benefit
Speaker 1: from the added national attention more of the prime time
Speaker 1: games that you know, we all talked about that for
Speaker 1: like guys like Lavonte, where we have known for years
Speaker 1: and years and years what they're doing on the field
Speaker 1: and outside of Tampa Bay, we just didn't think people
Speaker 1: were giving them the credit. I think Carlton could be
Speaker 1: one of those people that benefits as well that when
Speaker 1: you're playing, you know, in the game of the week
Speaker 1: against someone like Michael Thomas, where people are gonna know
Speaker 1: what it means for you to limit him, Like that's
Speaker 1: a very evident example that will help people understand exactly
Speaker 1: how well he's been playing. Dustin asked, what is Shady's
Speaker 1: fantasy projection considering what we saw week one? So I
Speaker 1: was love when we get the fantasy questions, but this
Speaker 1: actually is perfect case. I wanted to talk about the
Speaker 1: running back group overall and how you saw them be deployed,
Speaker 1: the different split of the workload, and overall how you
Speaker 1: see that potentially changing as especially guys like Leonard Fournette
Speaker 1: get a chance to be in this offense more, get
Speaker 1: more adjusted and ready to play, maybe some more snaps. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think i'd be starting Lashawn McCoy in fantasy
Speaker 1: football right now. Not to say he couldn't have a
Speaker 1: big game, but you would need things to break, right,
Speaker 1: I think, and I did. Um, I did have a
Speaker 1: little bit of a of a thought after the game
Speaker 1: of well, I don't remember seeing Leshan McCoy very much,
Speaker 1: and I thought he was going to be basically the
Speaker 1: second guy. Um. But then I looked at the play
Speaker 1: by play and he was in for thirty six plays
Speaker 1: or thirties, something like thirty six percent of the plays,
Speaker 1: which is a pretty big amount when you're not the
Speaker 1: starting running back. Uh, much more than Leonard Fournette had.
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette was only on the field for nine plays.
Speaker 1: The thing was, on those nine plays, he had five
Speaker 1: carries and a catch. So when we put him on
Speaker 1: the field, we clearly intended to use him. I assume
Speaker 1: and I know to some extent that which what Leshan
Speaker 1: McCoy was doing was what we thought he was going
Speaker 1: to be the third the primary third down back. UM.
Speaker 1: With with Ronald Jones being for your first and second
Speaker 1: Hawn guy, with the exception of fact that we kept
Speaker 1: getting in third ones and they kept using um Ronald
Speaker 1: Jones and third ones and it worked. But I think
Speaker 1: in longer thirtain ones we were using Leshawn. It's just
Speaker 1: that he only had one pass thrown to him. He
Speaker 1: didn't have any handoff, so it didn't seem like he
Speaker 1: played very much. And if you're from a Fanny fantasy standpoint,
Speaker 1: if you're trying to rely on a third down back
Speaker 1: in a three person backfield, you're you're you're probably rolling
Speaker 1: the dice a little bit to expect much out of that.
Speaker 1: Um Leonard four Nett. Clearly they wanted to use him.
Speaker 1: He's the guy that's getting the carries when Ronald Jones
Speaker 1: isn't on the field, and I think you're gonna see
Speaker 1: more of that. Uh, you know, the numbers don't jump
Speaker 1: off at you. He was five carries for five yards,
Speaker 1: but he did have a nice six yard ron He
Speaker 1: had a nice fourteen yard catch, and I think several
Speaker 1: times he lost yards on plays where Tom Brady audible
Speaker 1: and it's possibly just didn't really know the audibles very
Speaker 1: well yet, and there was some blocking issues up front.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, so I thought he looked
Speaker 1: like he ran well, but the numbers aren't very good.
Speaker 1: And Delvin asked, will the old line be able to
Speaker 1: give Tom the protection he needs, especially considering he's not
Speaker 1: a more mobile quarterback. Yeah, I mean it was. It
Speaker 1: was a little bit on and off in that game.
Speaker 1: There were some bad moments. I thought there were plenty
Speaker 1: of plays though, where he had enough time to throw. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, I think coach didn't shy away from the
Speaker 1: fact that he didn't think it was Donovan Smith's best
Speaker 1: game him. Um, And I know our guys, I think
Speaker 1: divid Smith is very good and it is capable of
Speaker 1: having dominant games. So they don't think that one bad
Speaker 1: game means he's a problem on the line. It was
Speaker 1: just a bad game. I expect I'm and Smith to
Speaker 1: play a lot better beginning this week. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: think we've got the guys up front they can protect
Speaker 1: Tom Brady for sure. And Tristan Worse was pretty good.
Speaker 1: So that was actually the next question. Richard had asked,
Speaker 1: how do you rate Tristan Worth's play in his first game?
Speaker 1: And I mean not only is it a first game
Speaker 1: for a rookie on a weird offseason, but he's having
Speaker 1: to go against Cam Jordan. I mean, it's that's that's
Speaker 1: quite a welcome to the NFL start. Yeah, here comes
Speaker 1: my shameless plug. Jeff Ryan and I had Tristan on
Speaker 1: our SALTI Dogs podcast which just came out. Um, so
Speaker 1: you can listen to him talk about what he thought
Speaker 1: about his game and and you know, Jeff, I asked
Speaker 1: him how he thought he did, and he was I
Speaker 1: thought he did pretty well. And then Jeff like, come on, man,
Speaker 1: did you watch the film? What did the film say?
Speaker 1: And he still felt pretty good about it. So, and
Speaker 1: he seems like a pretty straightforward guy. So if he
Speaker 1: thinks he did fairly well, Bruce Arian said, yesterday or
Speaker 1: maybe Monday, I guess that. Um, he thought Tristan worse
Speaker 1: did pretty darn good, especially for a rookie um with
Speaker 1: who didn't have any preseason games or any sort of
Speaker 1: warm ups. And he's like you said, he's thrown in,
Speaker 1: Hey go block Cam Jordan. You know so, Um, I
Speaker 1: think it was a pretty good debut for him, and
Speaker 1: that's very encouraging and another rookie that we were excited
Speaker 1: to see the debut is Antoine Winfield Junior, and Brody
Speaker 1: had asked, was it just me or was Winfield Junior
Speaker 1: flying around like a young Lynch? I think that's what
Speaker 1: he does. I think he flies around. I think he
Speaker 1: covers a lot of ground out there. Um wow, like
Speaker 1: a young John Lynch. Uh. I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: a direct comparison. I mean, I think John played a
Speaker 1: lot more around the line scrimmage, a lot more than
Speaker 1: we are having Antoine Winfield do. That's more of a
Speaker 1: Jordan Whitehead kind of thing. But yeah, he looked like
Speaker 1: he was flying around for sure. I think. I think
Speaker 1: that's what the coaches love about him. I think that's
Speaker 1: why he's starting. I mean, he finds the ball and
Speaker 1: he's really he moves around very well. Yeah he was.
Speaker 1: He was real close to that interception in the end zone.
Speaker 1: That would have been a heck of a way to
Speaker 1: start your career. And A and A have a player
Speaker 1: right there. It's it's great to see him get their
Speaker 1: hands on the ball. But he was just it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: just so close to that first interception. Daniel had asked,
Speaker 1: do you guys think will Golston is going to have
Speaker 1: a great year. He seemed to play really well this
Speaker 1: last week. He did play well. I think he had
Speaker 1: like seven tackles, which is really a lot for a
Speaker 1: down lineman in this defense. Lots of times those guys
Speaker 1: were just occupying blockers and and Devin White and Lavante
Speaker 1: David are cleaning up all the tackles. But he had
Speaker 1: a he showed up quite a bit. He had that
Speaker 1: one play where he got the guy in the backfield
Speaker 1: and he just basically was unblocked. Uh So he made
Speaker 1: the most of that opportunity. Um, he is a guy
Speaker 1: that and we talked about this last year. This really
Speaker 1: worked out well for him that Todd Bowls came here
Speaker 1: because he was drafted in the in the one of
Speaker 1: the Shiano years. And the defense that that we were
Speaker 1: running then is very similar. Even though it was called
Speaker 1: the four three and this was called the three four,
Speaker 1: it's very similar to what we're running now in terms
Speaker 1: of what they asked the down linemen to do. And
Speaker 1: he was drafted specifically to fill that role. So basically
Speaker 1: he's feeling a role that that he was made for.
Speaker 1: And he's he was saying on Monday, I think that
Speaker 1: he's or maybe yesterday that he's you know, worked to
Speaker 1: get his body in the right size that they want
Speaker 1: for this role. And I think he's just in a
Speaker 1: really good spot. It's a good defense for him. He
Speaker 1: wants to rush the bat, he wants to get more
Speaker 1: more pressure on the Pastor. He says that every time
Speaker 1: he's involved in one of these zoom calls, and hopefully
Speaker 1: that happens. But simply what he's doing already in terms
Speaker 1: of stopping the run is is fantastic. Charlie brought up
Speaker 1: what great game Scotty Miller had and how he's wondering
Speaker 1: if he could have a potential breakout year this year,
Speaker 1: just overall the role that Scotty could play. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: got invited on a podcast a week or two ago
Speaker 1: and at the end they surprised me with the who's
Speaker 1: your hidden hidden hero question? Pick somebody on the roster
Speaker 1: that people might not be talking about that could have
Speaker 1: a big year, and and he was my choice. And
Speaker 1: and I mean, I'm not saying that's a crazy prediction,
Speaker 1: because he got a lot of very positive press during
Speaker 1: training camp. But we're talking about is he an effective
Speaker 1: third Bruce Eiver Or is a guy. If he gets
Speaker 1: six or seven hundred yards on the defense, that's I'm
Speaker 1: on offense, it's already loaded with all these other weapons.
Speaker 1: I think that's a huge breakout. And he started off
Speaker 1: grade he got seveny yards, so, uh, that's easily Yeah,
Speaker 1: he would easily get to six or seven hundred yards
Speaker 1: if he gets seven yards a game. He's not gonna
Speaker 1: get seven yards a game, but I could see him
Speaker 1: having a lot of games like this. I think he
Speaker 1: looks he's a little bit bigger, and I think he
Speaker 1: I think he's just really confident now, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: he came in as a sixth round draft pick. Three
Speaker 1: or four weeks before the draft. He didn't even think
Speaker 1: he was gonna get drafted. Nobody was talking about him,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, he's drafted. He's thrown
Speaker 1: in a couple of games as the third receiver. He
Speaker 1: came from Bowling Green, not the biggest program, you know.
Speaker 1: And and he didn't say this, Don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: he didn't say this, But it wouldn't be surprising if
Speaker 1: he was a little big for him the first year.
Speaker 1: And he's not the biggest guy by NFL standards, And uh,
Speaker 1: this year. I just think he looks like a real
Speaker 1: NFL receiver out there. I'm really high. I'm Scotty Muller. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I completely agree. Matt had asked, Devin White looked bigger
Speaker 1: and faster than last year. What's his ceiling this season? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't remember anybody saying he bolted up
Speaker 1: at all. He's already a pretty big dude and already
Speaker 1: very fast. Um, if he looked faster, maybe it's just
Speaker 1: simply what and this is what he says, that he
Speaker 1: has a better field for the defense, now knows what
Speaker 1: he's supposed to do, and so all the guys say this.
Speaker 1: When you get to know the system better, you can
Speaker 1: play with reactions and instincts rather than having to think
Speaker 1: about it, and that makes you a faster player. I
Speaker 1: think his ceiling this year would be a pro bowler.
Speaker 1: You know, he was the rookie of the Month in
Speaker 1: the NFL, in the NFL defense, Rookie the Month the
Speaker 1: last two years. Last year, you can really see him
Speaker 1: coming on and uh, this defense gives him the opportunity
Speaker 1: to make a whole lot of place. So you know,
Speaker 1: he he set his goal before the year. Five interceptions
Speaker 1: that's a lofty goal for an inside linebacker. But we'll
Speaker 1: see if he gets some number of sacks and interceptions.
Speaker 1: I could see him getting some Pro Bowl buzz, partly
Speaker 1: because what you were saying earlier. More people are watching
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers now and they're gonna see this. He had
Speaker 1: a good game. Seven million people were watching. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. We had multiple comments and questions in a
Speaker 1: row about the Titans. Daniel had asked if Gronk's going
Speaker 1: to be more involved in the passing game bill and
Speaker 1: said it seemed like o J's Brady's favorite tight end
Speaker 1: and us Look, let's see somebody had asked about if
Speaker 1: where was great. It seems like I only saw him
Speaker 1: in on one play. So let's kind of just combine
Speaker 1: all those together. Tight ends. Go CAMRA's I think Cam.
Speaker 1: I can look at it here real quick, but I
Speaker 1: think Cam's on the field for nine plays. So it did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the game plan didn't really go his way, um in
Speaker 1: the first game, but you'll see some cambraid along the way. Um,
Speaker 1: he's just too He's just too good at a player.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the sheet here. Yeah, he was on
Speaker 1: for nine plays. Um. O J. Howard was on the
Speaker 1: field for thirty seven plays and Gronk was on for
Speaker 1: fifty four plays, which was seventy So he's the guy.
Speaker 1: I guess Gronks your default in in like eleven personnel
Speaker 1: when you only have one tight end and then when
Speaker 1: you go to two, it's it's usually oh J. At
Speaker 1: least it wasn't the first game. I wouldn't argue with
Speaker 1: the fact that O. J. Might be Tom Brady's favorite
Speaker 1: tight in right now. I can see that he They
Speaker 1: hooked up well in training camp, and you know, we
Speaker 1: know he's a talented guy and he's in the prime
Speaker 1: of his career. You know, Rob Gronkowski is you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully still an efficient weapon force this year. But Howard
Speaker 1: is the guy that's in the prime of his career
Speaker 1: right now, so I can see that being the case.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think we can judge this in
Speaker 1: one game. I know Gronkowski only had two catches something
Speaker 1: like eleven yards, but Tom Brady did look for him
Speaker 1: on that one play down the seam that didn't work out.
Speaker 1: So they're still gonna try to hit some big plays
Speaker 1: with him. It's just we need to see three or
Speaker 1: four games before you can really say this is how
Speaker 1: the Titans are gonna be used, this is how the
Speaker 1: running backs are going to be used, this is Tom
Speaker 1: Brady's favorite target, etcetera. You know what I'm saying. I mean,
Speaker 1: we got some evidence, but one game isn't enough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: larger sample size will definitely make that more accurate. And
Speaker 1: you never know for one game what the what the
Speaker 1: plan was versus compared to normal. Well, that's gonna do
Speaker 1: it for us on this edition of Buccaneers Inside or Alive,
Speaker 1: presented by Miller Lyte. Thanks to all of you guys
Speaker 1: for joining in. Thanks for all those great questions. We
Speaker 1: will be back here next week to talk about that
Speaker 1: first home game against the Carolina Panthers, So we'll see
Speaker 1: you then, m yeah, yeah, mm hmm