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Speaker 1: a recap of the Red State Blue State debate that
Speaker 1: just happened, Ron DeSantis versus Gavin Newsom. I want to
Speaker 1: give you my high level thoughts of this one. First
Speaker 1: of all, I was entirely unsurprised by the whole thing.
Speaker 1: You knew that Ron DeSantis he has all the data,
Speaker 1: he has all the numbers, he has all the facts
Speaker 1: and figures on his side, whereas Gavin Newsom has to
Speaker 1: play games, has to prevaricate, dissemble, lie all kinds of
Speaker 1: stuff because what's he gonna say. People are fleeing the
Speaker 1: state that he's in charge of while he's in charge
Speaker 1: of it because he's doing such a great job. And
Speaker 1: I understand that we had set this up as a
Speaker 1: style versus substance situation, but I don't even think Gavin
Speaker 1: Newsom had a particularly compelling personal style. I think that
Speaker 1: he overwhelmingly failed. So let me start with that. You know,
Speaker 1: one of the challenges that Ron DeSantis has is he
Speaker 1: knows all the information he presents it very well. But
Speaker 1: he's not a guy who is a showman. You know,
Speaker 1: he has this kind of way of talent, facts and figures.
Speaker 1: It sounds a little like this, and he's just you know, well,
Speaker 1: in Florida, we did this, and let me tell you
Speaker 1: what we did in Florida, and it's been you know,
Speaker 1: we stood up to Welkeness. And I think roonder Stands
Speaker 1: is amazing. Don't get me wrong. I think he's a
Speaker 1: phenomenal government. I moved to Florida in no small part
Speaker 1: because of the great governance here and what Florida represents.
Speaker 1: So on. Not mocking the guy, I'm just pointing out
Speaker 1: that he's he's not a showman the way that people
Speaker 1: I think I've gotten used to. I'll just be honest
Speaker 1: with Donald Trump. I mean, in the Trump era, people
Speaker 1: are used to a guy who's a larger than life figure,
Speaker 1: who is pretty much the most famous person on the planet,
Speaker 1: who is you know, full of one liners and and
Speaker 1: jokes and comebacks and you know the whole. He's just
Speaker 1: it's it's tough to compete with that kind of entertainment figure. Really,
Speaker 1: who Trump's a politician, entertainment figure, a brand. I mean
Speaker 1: Trump is a walking branding exercise in so many ways.
Speaker 1: So I think that people have gotten a little bit
Speaker 1: used to that, and that's not normal. And most politicians
Speaker 1: are boring, are supercilious, are dishonest, out for themselves. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Ron sand his great politicians done amazing things in Florida,
Speaker 1: but he sometimes can lack a little bit of that
Speaker 1: connectivity with people. Gavin Newsom does his whole Hey here,
Speaker 1: i am I'm tall, i'm lean, I'm handsome, and the
Speaker 1: ladies at home love me. But the truth is that
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom is actually really bad at being the executive
Speaker 1: of a very large day which is the fifth largest
Speaker 1: the world. Let me just say the first thing that
Speaker 1: you saw a lot of here. I knew this was
Speaker 1: going to happen in the debate, and this is true
Speaker 1: whenever you're talking about California and Florida. Now you have
Speaker 1: to look at it on the relative basis of how
Speaker 1: did it become what it is and what has it
Speaker 1: turned into because of Democrat policies, right far left Democrat policies.
Speaker 1: California was a red state not that long ago. This
Speaker 1: is what I always have to remind people of California
Speaker 1: gave US Ronald Reagan. California was really until the nineties
Speaker 1: a reliably Republican state in national elections, or certainly many
Speaker 1: times in the twentieth century was a Republican one state,
Speaker 1: and now it is the ultimate Democrat stronghold. What happened, right,
Speaker 1: That's one part of the conversation, But just focusing in
Speaker 1: here on what Newsom did. What Newsom said. His whole
Speaker 1: thing is, well, our economy is so big, and we
Speaker 1: have Silicon Valley, and we have all this great stuff.
Speaker 1: And yeah, well they inherited the immunists like Avenusom who
Speaker 1: control California. Now, they inherited all that greatness that was
Speaker 1: built when it wasn't a left wing crap hole, right,
Speaker 1: that was built over decades of California as the most
Speaker 1: geographically blessed state really in the entire country, has the
Speaker 1: most amazing geography, natural beauty, natural resources of really any state.
Speaker 1: I mean, sorry, Texas, I love you, and Texas has
Speaker 1: a lot of great stuff and obviously fantastic people, but
Speaker 1: a lot of it's flat, not that much going on there.
Speaker 1: So it's very beautiful. I get it, I get it,
Speaker 1: but it's not you know, Highway one in the coast
Speaker 1: of Malibu, and it's just not right. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: California is lucky. California is lucky in that respect. But
Speaker 1: for Gaven Newstan to say, well, we have the fifth
Speaker 1: lordest economy in the world, it's not like he built
Speaker 1: it into the fifth largest economy in the world. It's
Speaker 1: been that way for decades. And California was also a
Speaker 1: place that had Hollywood and Silicon Valley Valley as massive
Speaker 1: wealth generators that had really nothing to do with like
Speaker 1: state governance. Is just kind of a happy accident for them,
Speaker 1: and that has now allowed this state to become so
Speaker 1: rich and so disconnected from reality in a lot of
Speaker 1: ways that it's a little bit like a South American country.
Speaker 1: It's going to say Venezuela, but maybe more like Brazil.
Speaker 1: Now Venezuela has just completely fallen apart because you know
Speaker 1: socialism where you have a stratospherically rich class in the
Speaker 1: Silicon Valley barons, big TV and movie producers who live
Speaker 1: in Hollywood, and you know, the lawyers for the big
Speaker 1: and the owners of the big studios, and the lawyers
Speaker 1: and the big entertainment firms. You know, they have all
Speaker 1: this money and they have these crazy expensive houses, and
Speaker 1: then you have the interior of the state. Increasingly there's
Speaker 1: a lot of working class people and a lot of
Speaker 1: people who are living in a relative state, at least
Speaker 1: in American terms of poverty. And that's the way it
Speaker 1: is got very rich and very poor, very rich and
Speaker 1: those who are dependent on the state. And that is
Speaker 1: what California has become. That dynamic played out all throughout
Speaker 1: the DeSantis Newsom debate, and that wasn't surprising at all.
Speaker 1: But when you look at what was given to Gavin
Speaker 1: Newsom and what he has done under his tenure, that's
Speaker 1: where it's just indefensible for him. That's where it doesn't
Speaker 1: It doesn't hold together at all. So I'll get into
Speaker 1: some of this. I mean, the place where I think
Speaker 1: the issue of the issue of crime is where there
Speaker 1: is no honest argument, no good faith argument that California
Speaker 1: can make about its governance that it's not just terrible
Speaker 1: on crime issues. Right, There's there's no argument. But I'll
Speaker 1: deal with that. Meanwhile, in Florida, things are actually going
Speaker 1: pretty well, so we will discuss that. But you know,
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Speaker 1: get first of all, the For some people, the most
Speaker 1: memorable part of the debate, I think is Ron de
Speaker 1: Santis holding up a poop a poop map. I mean,
Speaker 1: let's let's call it, what is a poop map and
Speaker 1: showing that this is something that exists in San Francisco
Speaker 1: where there's so much human feces. This is reality. It's
Speaker 1: true on the ground that someone set up an app
Speaker 1: to track where there's where there's too much human feces,
Speaker 1: and this is all because of policy. San Francisco is
Speaker 1: arguably one of the most beautiful cities in terms of
Speaker 1: the actual geography and the you know, the city itself,
Speaker 1: the setting for it. One of the most beautiful city.
Speaker 1: Some people say the most beautiful city in America. I
Speaker 1: mean Golden Gate Bridge and San Francisco Bay and it's incredible,
Speaker 1: and they've ruined it. They've ruined it. People don't want
Speaker 1: to live there anymore. Why well, because of stupid policies.
Speaker 1: But when Gavin Newsom tries, he also does this thing
Speaker 1: where he said, you know, red states have the highest
Speaker 1: crime if you really want to look at crime stats,
Speaker 1: look at it county by county, county by because a state.
Speaker 1: You know, you could have a state like say Illinois,
Speaker 1: and you say, oh, well, you know, if you look
Speaker 1: at Illinois, it's actually got a Illinois's crime rate. Well, No, Chicago,
Speaker 1: which is entirely Democrat, has a super high violent crime rate,
Speaker 1: far too many shootings. Entirely Democrat control Illinois as a state,
Speaker 1: it's it's blue. But you know there's some pockets of
Speaker 1: red here and there. It's a little bit, a little
Speaker 1: bit of a different situation. You know, there are other
Speaker 1: places Texas. Is it the fault of Texas Republicans that
Speaker 1: Austin has all this disrepair and all this big increase
Speaker 1: in violence actually in Austin in recent years, big increase
Speaker 1: in shootings. Is it the Republican's fault? No, because Austin's
Speaker 1: entirely Democrat. So you're just you're you're changing, you're moving
Speaker 1: the goalpost, so that you can never really figure out
Speaker 1: what's going on. The Places of the greatest violence in
Speaker 1: America are Democrat controlled. That is just the fact. I mean,
Speaker 1: you look at where do you have the greatest concentrations
Speaker 1: of violence. It's Baltimore, Saint Louis, New Orleans, south side
Speaker 1: of Chicago. I mean, everyone knows these different Birmingham, Alabama
Speaker 1: actually has a very high violent crime rate. I mean
Speaker 1: you look at these places, every single one of those
Speaker 1: places controlled by Democrats. It's all Democrats, but they try
Speaker 1: to play this game of well at the state level,
Speaker 1: red state, blue state. No, you have to look at
Speaker 1: what's going on in the city because it's local law
Speaker 1: enforcement for the most part, that's making these determinations. It's
Speaker 1: mayors and police commissioners that are making these determinations, and prosecutors,
Speaker 1: Soros back prosecutors. But they lie about this. They just
Speaker 1: lie about this, and it's because what they've done is horrible.
Speaker 1: I mean, people have really suffered as a result of it.
Speaker 1: I mean, on the crime issue, there's just no there's
Speaker 1: no comparison because what Democrats have done is is tried
Speaker 1: to the greatest degree possible to legalize crime and to
Speaker 1: sympathize with criminals at the expense of the law abiding.
Speaker 1: That has been the Democrat playbook. That is what they
Speaker 1: are up to. That is the whole situation for them.
Speaker 1: It's a number of things. One is they think that
Speaker 1: crime is a function of lack of opportunity or poverty
Speaker 1: or something. It's not a lot of poor people. They
Speaker 1: don't commit crimes, but they have the wrong ideas about that.
Speaker 1: They also have the wrong ideas about law enforcement and
Speaker 1: whether you know, additional law enforcement actually makes people safer
Speaker 1: or not. They seem to think the answer is no,
Speaker 1: But of course the answer is yes. Law enforcement does
Speaker 1: make people safer. Our law enforcement, our law enforcement in
Speaker 1: this country is not perfect, it never will be, but
Speaker 1: it's overwhelmingly very professional, very very buy the book, and
Speaker 1: fair in how it interacts with the citizenry and with
Speaker 1: the American people. So that's the truth. So they're wrong
Speaker 1: on the enforcement of the laws. They're wrong on law
Speaker 1: enforcement personnel. You know, I wish that at some point
Speaker 1: Gavin Neusim had just turned to Ron. I'm sorry, Ron
Speaker 1: descent is a turn to Gavin Newsom and said, hey, Hey, Gavin,
Speaker 1: in your state, in places like San Francisco, you can
Speaker 1: steal eight hundred dollars stuff and not get arrested. Anything
Speaker 1: less than nine hundred dollars won't won't even be an arrest.
Speaker 1: Do you agree with that? You think people should be
Speaker 1: able to steal eight hundred dollars and not be arrested? Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think these are the ways that we
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Speaker 1: And then just on the on the broader issue, I
Speaker 1: gotta say, Kevin Newsom said, he basically said he's not running,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be the nominee, and Rond de Stante
Speaker 1: is not gonna be the nominee. Now, it's a pretty
Speaker 1: cheeky line because I think, you know, unfortunate for the
Speaker 1: DeSantis fans out there. It's probably true. But guys, just
Speaker 1: for all the people out there who keep yelling at me,
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's not gonna be you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: not gonna be Biden. It's gonna be Biden. And I
Speaker 1: just hope because I know I see your Instagram and
Speaker 1: your email, your Instagram messages and your emails and your
Speaker 1: tweets at me, you can buck. You don't understand it's
Speaker 1: gonna be It's gonna be Biden or Kamala. Now when
Speaker 1: I say Biden, Biden, Kama, same thing. That's the ticket.
Speaker 1: There's not gonna be some change to the ticket. And
Speaker 1: I think you saw that tonight with Gavin Newsom. I
Speaker 1: don't think Gavin Newsom plays well in the Midwest. I
Speaker 1: don't think Gavin Newsom plays well in battleground states at
Speaker 1: all at all. You know, people underestimate Biden's been the
Speaker 1: game a long time. People think, you know, they Obama's
Speaker 1: VP for eight years. They trust him, They think that
Speaker 1: he's I know, it's crazy it is the trust to Biden,
Speaker 1: but they do. They do. So it doesn't matter that
Speaker 1: you and I think it's nuts. They think that there's
Speaker 1: something to it, that it's that it makes sense to
Speaker 1: have this guy, Joe Biden in charge. And I think
Speaker 1: they're completely out of their minds. So you know, you
Speaker 1: can take my opinion for or see what the Democrats
Speaker 1: how they're gonna vote. But I'm just telling you it's
Speaker 1: gonna be uh, Gavin and and I'm sorry, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be Biden and Kamala. It's not gonna be Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 1: So I just don't see that that changing because they
Speaker 1: don't have an option, they don't have another way. There
Speaker 1: is no plan, there's no plan to change this. There's
Speaker 1: no plan, just whitches around. So I think that's really
Speaker 1: important to see. And then the other area where I
Speaker 1: thought it was really interesting, on immigration, Gavin Newsom seems
Speaker 1: to hold all these different positions. Everything with Gavin Newsom
Speaker 1: is an opportunity to be sanctimonious and then to be
Speaker 1: disingenuous and just he's just so full of it all
Speaker 1: the time, you know, he just he tells these sort
Speaker 1: of oh, it's all about emotion, and why don't you
Speaker 1: you know, why are you banning books? No one's banning books.
Speaker 1: Such a lie, it's such a lie. But he's in
Speaker 1: some ways the perfect Democrat. Gavin Newsom is the perfect
Speaker 1: Democrat because it's all emotion, talking points and presentation, and
Speaker 1: it just ignores reality. It ignores the reality we can
Speaker 1: all observe and see, you're not allowed to believe your
Speaker 1: own experience or to know what's going on based on
Speaker 1: looking at the data of people's lives. How much stuff
Speaker 1: is being stolen, what's the tax rate, how many people
Speaker 1: are fleeing this state? How many homeless are there? So
Speaker 1: many more homeless in California than Florida. Why is that?
Speaker 1: Why is that You look at all these numbers and
Speaker 1: you need to see California is getting beat on a
Speaker 1: government level by Florida, no question, no question about it.
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