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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants.

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Speaker 1: I am John schmelk Our usual Friday fair. Here, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a interview, a one on one with Giants

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Speaker 1: left tackle Andrew Thomas. Then Matt Barrows from the Athletical

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Speaker 1: join us. He covers the San Francisco forty nine ers,

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Speaker 1: and then of course Bob Papa will be joined by

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Speaker 1: the head coach of the Giants, Brian Dable. But we

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Speaker 1: lead off as always with our player interview, my conversation

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Speaker 1: with Andrew Thomas, and now we welcome in this week's

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Speaker 1: guest on the Giants Huddle Podcast, brought to you by Citizens,

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Speaker 1: the official bank of the Giants. He is Giants starting

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Speaker 1: left tackle Andrew Thomas. Andrew, what's going on, man? I'm

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Speaker 1: doing great. Thanks for being with us today.

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Speaker 3: How are you? I'm doing great? All right?

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Speaker 1: Are you thrilled that the first question everyone asks you

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Speaker 1: now is no longer how's the foot doing?

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Speaker 3: Yes, definitely great. It's about time, right.

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Speaker 1: Are you do you still do extra work on it

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Speaker 1: or is it kind of like business as usual now?

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Speaker 3: Still have to do maintenance on it.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's a tough injury to come back from,

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Speaker 4: but you know, starting to feel like myself again.

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Speaker 1: How do you think you're playing when you kind of

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Speaker 1: watch yourself on tape every week?

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Speaker 4: I would say solid, I got some things to clean

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Speaker 4: up to feel like myself again. Last week I felt

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Speaker 4: like wasn't my best showing. But you go back to

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Speaker 4: the drawing board and clean up things and hopefully, you know,

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Speaker 4: play better next week or this week.

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Speaker 1: We see how you play. But I think probably for

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Speaker 1: a player, there's a feel right. Do you feel right

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Speaker 1: going out there? How quickly did it come back for you?

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Speaker 1: Was it like the first game you play limited snaps?

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Speaker 4: Honestly, when you're out there, you don't have time to

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Speaker 4: think about it. You just like I will say, you

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Speaker 4: know at the house or you know in meetings, I'm

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Speaker 4: thinking about you know, how will I respond when I'm

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Speaker 4: back out there? But you don't have much time once

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Speaker 4: the ball snaps, you just get back into it. It's

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Speaker 1: How about the one in general? How do you think

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Speaker 1: the group has kind of come together quickly as now?

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Speaker 1: That same five that played pretty well I think at

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Speaker 4: I think this group has so much potent and some

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Speaker 4: I think we've been, you know, protecting really well. I

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Speaker 4: think we could be dominant in the run game, and

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Speaker 4: we're still working on that. Teams are playing us a

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Speaker 4: little different now because of our early success, they're starting

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Speaker 1: When you say teams are playing differently, how so just.

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Speaker 4: More pressures, a lot of movement up front. We're really

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Speaker 4: good at double teams, so they try to maneuver their

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Speaker 4: Philly last week played us in different fronts than they

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Speaker 1: That's interesting when you say your teams, your group stills

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Speaker 1: the areas that you still think you guys can take

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say what I was just speaking about

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Speaker 4: Obviously Dart does a great job off schedule, but that

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Speaker 1: You guys do those double teams. He gets in behind

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Speaker 1: you guys last year, more of a slasher type, right.

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Speaker 1: Does that change the style in which you guys have

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Speaker 4: wishing them best. He's going to be back next year.

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Speaker 4: But I have full confidence in our backs, Tracy and Motor.

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Speaker 4: They are different running backs with their attributes, but that

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Speaker 4: that's when you know, you see the differences between each

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Speaker 3: We block it the same.

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Speaker 1: And I know this is in your decision. These are

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Speaker 1: the players that get called. But do you think the

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Speaker 4: I wanna say much different. I think it's more dependent

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Speaker 4: I said, you know, we get to get on our

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Speaker 4: make the move and win.

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Speaker 1: Is this about as good as you've seen this group

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Speaker 4: And I would say a lot of that is, you know,

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Speaker 4: It's tough, you know, with all the injuries, and you

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Speaker 4: know that's the nature of the league. But they're really

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Speaker 4: they play a lot of snaps together, and I think

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Speaker 1: I want to give you a chance to throw some

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Speaker 1: How about you made a Lumino win the job. He's

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Speaker 3: Not at all. Like I think he's he's a great player.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes I'll say, it's tough to get praise as office

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Speaker 1: I want to ask about the guy that you play

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Speaker 1: a lot, and that's John Running Junior. What makes him

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Speaker 1: a guy that's that's fun to work with and good

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say first with John, you're going to

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Speaker 4: get the physicality, that's just how he plays. But overall

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Speaker 4: he's just a good football player, like he understands the schemes.

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Speaker 4: And then we really didn't even get to play each

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Speaker 4: you know, communicating with games and stuff like that, just

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Speaker 3: But I think we're, you know, improving each and every week.

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Speaker 1: You see people on the outside throw away throw around

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Speaker 1: phrases like sacks allowed or pressures a loud and stuff

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Speaker 1: like that. Do you guys have metrics in house that

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Speaker 1: you guys use in your room with your coaches that

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Speaker 1: you use to judge whether or not you individually and

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Speaker 1: as a group of playing, Well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah we do.

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Speaker 4: We don't have I guess necessarily grades, but we talk

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Speaker 4: we you know, try to grade ourselves, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: So the offense has been leading into a lot more

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Speaker 1: two tight end stuff after the Laie Neighbor's injury. How

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Speaker 1: does that impact you if at all as an offensive tackle,

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Speaker 1: having a tight end next to you maybe a little

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Speaker 4: it is the same scheme. They're dressing up similar plays,

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Speaker 4: especially in the passing game, because our tight ends are athletic.

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Speaker 4: They can get out there and run routes, so we run,

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Speaker 1: Have you seen maybe some bigger fronts against you guys

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Speaker 4: I will say we started off seeing more base, but

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Speaker 4: I think it also depends tight ends we have in

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Speaker 1: All right, you mentioned this before having to I think

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Speaker 1: I had. I took to John Running in the locker

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Speaker 1: room last week and he said, with Dart, you with

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Speaker 1: the block to infinity. That was the term that he

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Speaker 1: how does that affect not just the duration, but how

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say the sturn off Dart does a

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Speaker 4: assuming where he's going to be. Not too deep, right,

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Speaker 4: we just have to trust in our technique know when

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Speaker 4: to let go so we don't get holdings. And you know,

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Speaker 4: like John said, block for infinity, he just go until

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Speaker 4: you hit a whistle blow because he's able to make

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Speaker 4: a play. I would say it's pretty fun when we're

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Speaker 1: How important is that for an offensive tackle? I think

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Speaker 1: this is underrated too for a quarterback. Not the set

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Speaker 1: Are you ready for some Georgia on Georgia violence in

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Speaker 4: It's be exciting. He's a great player. I actually, you know,

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Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing it too, Andrew, good luck

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Speaker 4: It's a tough environment to play, so we need to

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Speaker 1: Andrew, good stuff, and man, thank you. Huddle up, get

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Speaker 2: Great.

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Speaker 5: How do we make that happen?

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Speaker 1: November first. Okay, now, the Niners are an interesting team

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Speaker 1: We are joined by Matt Barrow's front of the program.

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Speaker 1: You hear them when we do our mock drafts every year,

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Speaker 1: and talking some forty nine ers football from the Athletic Matt,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you being with US man boys. Been an

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Speaker 1: struggled to run the football this year.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, probably a lot of them saw a lot

439
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Speaker 2: of your listeners saw the Texans play in Seattle and

440
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Speaker 2: they were horrible. So it was it was sort of

441
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Speaker 2: a bounce back game for them. You know. You see

442
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Speaker 2: sort of middling teams do that. Sometimes they'll lose badly

443
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Speaker 2: and then they'll rally the troops and play really well

444
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Speaker 2: the next week. And the forty nine ers are kind

445
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Speaker 2: of in that group, And so I think it's an

446
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Speaker 2: interesting matchup from that perspective. The Giants with the Camp

447
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Speaker 2: Scataboo injury, how do they react to that? The forty

448
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Speaker 2: nine Ers, how do they react to their really dismal loss.

449
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Speaker 2: It'll probably expose a lot of things for both teams.

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Speaker 1: What is Robert Sala trying to do? Matt to make

451
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Speaker 1: up for this lack of you know, explosive pass rushers

452
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Speaker 1: up front? Right, you lose? Nick Bosa now huffs out,

453
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Speaker 1: Is he blitzing more. Is he twisting and stunting more?

454
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Speaker 1: How is he trying to generate pass pressure since he

455
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Speaker 1: doesn't have the guys that can necessarily win one on one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all the above. They blitz more against the Texans,

457
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Speaker 2: and they had all season. I those blitzes just didn't

458
00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:58,560
Speaker 2: hit home. No shacks against Stroud. They hit him twice,

459
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Speaker 2: they knocked him down once. And this is with you know,

460
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Speaker 2: the Texans running a huge number of plays. So yeah,

461
00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,640
Speaker 2: that was a problem and that's what kind of prompted

462
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Speaker 2: this Keon White move. They may not be done as

463
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Speaker 2: far as the trade market too. I mean they could.

464
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Speaker 2: They could still stand to use one more guy. Bryce

465
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Speaker 2: huff has been really good for them. If you have

466
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Speaker 2: any overlap with your with your Jets listeners. But you know,

467
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Speaker 2: and I don't think he's going to be out for long.

468
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Speaker 2: But I do think he's going to be out for

469
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Speaker 2: this game. It might be back after that. But you know,

470
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Speaker 2: edge edge rusher, a pure edge rusher, someone who can

471
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Speaker 2: rush on third downs. That's been problematic without huff in there.

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Speaker 1: How's Michael Williams been your first round pick?

473
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Speaker 2: He's been good. He's been good. He hasn't been lights out,

474
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Speaker 2: and a lot of people are noting, a, Wow, this

475
00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 2: guy went eleven overall, you expect more output from him.

476
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Speaker 2: He's having to play a lot of snaps. He played

477
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Speaker 2: fifty seven snaps against the Texans. That's a lot for

478
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Speaker 2: any defensive end, much less a rookie. So there's that

479
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Speaker 2: there's sort of an exhaustion level that he's reaching. He's

480
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Speaker 2: not a he's not a Brian Burns. He's not a

481
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Speaker 2: sort of bendy outside you know, burst guy. A power player, right,

482
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Speaker 2: he's a power player. So they like to they like

483
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Speaker 2: to move him inside on obvious passing downs. But he's

484
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Speaker 2: not the guy that's gonna breeze by the left tackle

485
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Speaker 2: for a quick sack. And he only has one sack

486
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Speaker 2: so far this year. I think the forty nine ers

487
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Speaker 2: are fine with that, but you need to have the

488
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Speaker 2: other guys. You need to have Bosa and and huff

489
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Speaker 2: In there for him to really kind of maximize his skill.

490
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Speaker 2: And without both of those guys, it sort of kind

491
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Speaker 2: of sticks out. Okay, h fans say, okay, who's their

492
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Speaker 2: best defensive lineman left? Well, they've got the eleventh round

493
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Speaker 2: pick or the eleventh overall pick in there, let's see

494
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Speaker 2: what he does, and he wasn't doing much. That's not

495
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Speaker 2: really his game at this point. I mean it's a

496
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Speaker 2: fair question. I mean, you would expect a guy taking

497
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Speaker 2: eleventh overall would be able to be able to generate

498
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Speaker 2: more pass rush on his own. That just hasn't happened

499
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Speaker 2: at this point.

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Speaker 1: All right, how has life been without Fred Warner? Someone

501
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Speaker 1: who is irreplaceable, Like, you can't find somebody to do

502
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Speaker 1: what Fred Warner does? So how have they tried to

503
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Speaker 1: adjust with him not being in the lineup?

504
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Speaker 2: They had a really good outing the first full game

505
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Speaker 2: that he was out against the Falcons, where his replacement,

506
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Speaker 2: Tatum Bethune, who's the second year player, twenty four years old,

507
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Speaker 2: young guy, really you know, had a lot of electricity

508
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Speaker 2: and you could kind of feel it in Levi's Stadium

509
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Speaker 2: that the defense was hitting on all cylinders, basically the

510
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Speaker 2: same defense that played against the Texans. And there were

511
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Speaker 2: lights out against the Falcons. And then you know, the

512
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Speaker 2: following week just lots of lots of issues. There was

513
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Speaker 2: an energy shoot right off the bat. It's a ten

514
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Speaker 2: o'clock start for the forty nine ers, So will you

515
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Speaker 2: know the Giants game will be a ten o'clock start

516
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Speaker 2: as well, so that's always a bit of an issue

517
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Speaker 2: for a West Coast team. And then there were just

518
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Speaker 2: sort of the bus that you would expect from a

519
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Speaker 2: young player, you know, the bus that you wouldn't see

520
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Speaker 2: with Fred Warner in the game. And frankly, there were

521
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Speaker 2: a couple in the Tampa Bay game, which is the

522
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Speaker 2: game that Fred Warner left, and after he left, there

523
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Speaker 2: were some busts. That was a lot better versus the Falcons,

524
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Speaker 2: but then against the Texans on Sunday there were quite

525
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Speaker 2: a few. And that goes back to a young, inexperienced

526
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Speaker 2: middle linebacker who's calling the plays, who's getting everybody lined up,

527
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Speaker 2: just kind of slipping up every now and then, and

528
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Speaker 2: when you slip up in the NFL, the opponent takes advantage.

529
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Speaker 2: So the forty nine ers are working through that. And

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Speaker 2: the question is, you know, how quickly can this very

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Speaker 2: very young They've got, like, you know, five or six

532
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Speaker 2: guys who are twenty four or younger in that defensive lineup.

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Speaker 2: How quickly can it get up to speed and start

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Speaker 2: playing the stake free football?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, man, I think before the year and

536
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Speaker 1: this is the last one. The defense. I think you

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Speaker 1: knew going into the season you're gonna have a young secondary, right,

538
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Speaker 1: but you were expecting your stars up front to kind

539
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Speaker 1: of mitigate that a little bit. Now, all of a sudden,

540
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Speaker 1: the secondary is the only group of guys that are healthy,

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Speaker 1: and those guys are still young. Denomdor Leonor is the

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Speaker 1: only guy that hasn't been drafted in the last three

543
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Speaker 1: years in your secondary. How is that group looked up

544
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Speaker 1: in SAD? I know it's got a pretty nice job

545
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Speaker 1: as the nickelback. What is Jacksonville looking at in terms

546
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Speaker 1: of that giant secondary. We've seen a lot of zone.

547
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Speaker 1: How are they using the guys?

548
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're a zone team, mostly play zone. I think

549
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Speaker 2: they'll see that on Sunday. You know, they started the

550
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Speaker 2: season with a different safety duo than they have now.

551
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Speaker 2: It's sort of a question mark out here. They've got

552
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Speaker 2: Jay R. Brown and Malik Mustafa playing safety. They're both

553
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Speaker 2: really good players. To me, they're more in the box

554
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Speaker 2: type of guys. They're both really good around the line

555
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Speaker 2: of scrimmage, really good tacklers, bigger guys. And then but

556
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Speaker 2: when you combine that with a defensive line that really

557
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Speaker 2: isn't hitting home I think that it exposes them in

558
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Speaker 2: coverage a little bit, and you definitely saw that in

559
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Speaker 2: the Texans game. So that's, you know, that's that's my

560
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Speaker 2: personal critique of something that went wrong in Houston. I

561
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Speaker 2: don't think that the forty nine ers is going to

562
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Speaker 2: change things up. They really like Mustafa. They think that

563
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Speaker 2: he's going to be, you know, a team leader, potential

564
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Speaker 2: pro bowler in coming years. So I think that they're

565
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Speaker 2: dedicated to him. The question is whether they're going to

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Speaker 2: remain dedicated to the other guy, Jyra Brown. He's number

567
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Speaker 2: twenty seven, But yeah, that would be a potential weak

568
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Speaker 2: spot for Jackson Dart and that receiving group.

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Speaker 1: Well, Lynch should know his safeties better than anyone. So

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Speaker 1: if exactly, yeah, if John Lynch believes in him, I'm

571
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Speaker 1: not gonna argue with him. All right, let's shive to

572
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Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball here, Matt. Is it

573
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Speaker 1: hyperbog for me to say this is the best job

574
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Speaker 1: Kyle Shannon? I understand how Greedy's been, but has this

575
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Speaker 1: been the best job Kyle Shanahan's done. Given all the

576
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Speaker 1: injuries at wide receiver, tight end and the quarterback the

577
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Speaker 1: Niners have had yet their offense continues to hum at

578
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Speaker 1: a pretty high level.

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Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. I mean I I this happened in

580
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty, and maybe Giants fans don't remember this quite

581
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Speaker 2: as starkly as forty nine Ers fans do. But early

582
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty they played the Jets and they lost

583
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Speaker 2: Nick Bosha and Jimmy Garoppolo and Raheem Mostert and a

584
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Speaker 2: whole slew of forty nine ers on the MetLife turf.

585
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Speaker 2: And so now MetLife Turf is like the devil to

586
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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, and it is new turf.

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Speaker 1: There is new turf. I will say that they replaced

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Speaker 1: the turf last offseason.

589
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Speaker 2: All right, Well, that'll assuage them a little bit. But

590
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Speaker 2: my point is that they had a big space if

591
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Speaker 2: any injuries like they're having now back in twenty twenty,

592
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Speaker 2: and the team just went off a cliff and they

593
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Speaker 2: were terrible. The rest of the year, this team has

594
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Speaker 2: remained good, and I think that's largely due to Mac Jones,

595
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Speaker 2: you know, just coming in and doing a really good

596
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Speaker 2: job at quarterback, but also to Kyle Shanahan. The offense.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, I had to sneeze there. The offense hasn't

598
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Speaker 2: skipped a beat with Jones playing quarterback, and you know

599
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Speaker 2: that's a tribute to him, but it's also a tribute

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Speaker 2: to Kyle Shanahan because it hasn't just been quarterback. They're

601
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Speaker 2: playing guys, you know, Kendrick Bourne came off the street

602
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Speaker 2: in week two, and they're playing DeMarcus Robinson who missed

603
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Speaker 2: the first four games, and all sorts of guys that

604
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Speaker 2: are just not familiar to the forty nine ers and

605
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Speaker 2: that offense, and it's been a hodgepodge and Shanahan is

606
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Speaker 2: still dialed up a pretty good team. They're not scoring

607
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Speaker 2: a lot of points, however, so you know, they've won

608
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Speaker 2: squeakers early on in this season and they have a

609
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Speaker 2: trouble getting over twenty one points. So my point is

610
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Speaker 2: that I think by nature of this season, it's going

611
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Speaker 2: to be a tight contest no matter what, So you know,

612
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Speaker 2: may come down to field goal kickers at the end

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Speaker 2: of the game.

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Speaker 1: Has the offense looked exactly the same with with Mac Jones,

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Speaker 1: Worths Purty or has Shanahan made any changes to try to,

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Speaker 1: you know, adjust it to fit the skills of Jones.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't made any changes Defenses have made changes against them,

618
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Speaker 2: given that Brandon Ayuk hasn't been out there, Ricky Pearsall

619
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Speaker 2: hasn't been out there, you know, Juwan Jennings missed two games,

620
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Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. They just haven't had a really

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Speaker 2: a dynamic wide receiving duo. So everything's been concentrated on

622
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Speaker 2: stopping Christian McCaffrey and the running game, which has kind

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Speaker 2: of allowed Christian McCaffrey in the passing game to take off.

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Speaker 2: That that's really what's propped up this team over the

625
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Speaker 2: first few weeks is kind of throwing the short ball

626
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Speaker 2: to maccafery. I should I should add that George Kittle

627
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Speaker 2: was out for five weeks as well, So, you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of a funny stat from Sunday's loss to the Texans.

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Speaker 2: You know how next Gen stats charts your fastest ball carrier.

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Speaker 2: The forty nine ers fastest ball carrier was Mac Jones,

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Speaker 2: who's dealing with not one but two knee injuries. He's

632
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Speaker 2: got a big, bulky brace on one of the knees

633
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Speaker 2: and just kind of underscores that there's not a lot

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Speaker 2: of speed and pop to that offense, especially the passing attack.

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Speaker 2: So you know, they've had to rely on the short game.

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Speaker 2: They've had to rely on mac Jones being accurate in

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Speaker 2: the short game and sort of matriculating the ball down

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Speaker 2: the field. And that's that's part of the reason why,

639
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,239
Speaker 2: you know, the they haven't scored very much. Take them

640
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: a long time to get down the field, and they

641
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Speaker 2: didn't have a lot of success early on in the

642
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Speaker 2: red zone. That's gotten a little bit better lately. But

643
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Speaker 2: like I said, when you only control the ball for

644
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Speaker 2: eighteen minutes, hard to score a lot of points quickly.

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Speaker 1: Ricky Piersoll still no. I feel like it's been a

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Speaker 1: while for him.

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Speaker 2: It's been a while. PCL injuries have been one of

648
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Speaker 2: the injuries du jour for the forty nine ers, and

649
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Speaker 2: pcls can be stubborn. Mac Jones, for example, had one

650
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Speaker 2: in August. He's still dealing with that there. Right guard

651
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: Dominic Pooney had a PCL in August. He's still dealing

652
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: with that. So Pierce all has occurred in Week three,

653
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: still hasn't practiced yet, So that kind of tells you

654
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: that he's probably not gonna play in this game. I

655
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: guess he has a chance to play in it. The

656
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: sort of the bigger news on wide receiver is that

657
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: I think Juwan Jennings is starting to kind of feel better.

658
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: He was dealing with multiple broken ribs for the past

659
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: few weeks. That starts to go away, you start to

660
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,239
Speaker 2: feel better, and he's starting to play a little bit

661
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: more like Juwan Jennings, which is a very physical receiver

662
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: that ought to help the running game as well.

663
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: Giants have a really good pass rusher. The nineer is

664
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: gonna chip a lot. They obviously they don't want to

665
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: hold McCaffrey in the block right. He thought you be

666
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: part of their passing and they want them ountain routes,

667
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: so they're gonna chip with their tight ends. How are

668
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: they gonna try to slow down that Giants pass rush?

669
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they tried to chip Will Anderson last week or

670
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: on Sunday, and that just didn't work. Even even with

671
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: the ship he was, he was hitting home. So they

672
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: just have to be better. Colton mckivitz, the right tackle

673
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 2: was picked on a lot. I don't know whether the

674
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 2: Giants will kind of alternate the guys to get the

675
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: best matchups, but if they did, I think that you're

676
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: putting your best pass rusher against mckivts on that side

677
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: because he didn't do a great job against the Texans.

678
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: And on the other side, you've got Trent Williams, who's

679
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: not quite the Trent Williams of old, but he's still

680
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: better than most at that left tackle spot.

681
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: Finally, have the Niners done anything. I know they have

682
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: a bunch of East Coast games this year in terms of,

683
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: you know, special preparations. I know there's kind of a

684
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: old wives tale about West Coast teams playing at one

685
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: o'clock on the East Coast. I've looked at the numbers

686
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: on that. It isn't exactly what people think they are,

687
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: but what is Kyle Shanan said about trying to make

688
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: sure his guys are ready to go at these early

689
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: East Coast times.

690
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and nothing different with the practice schedule. You know,

691
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: sometimes they if they have back to back games eastward,

692
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: they'll spend the week out there. So they had the

693
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: game in Houston, and so that was a question mark

694
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: early on, but they decided that they were going to

695
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: get back from Houston in time. That was a ten

696
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: o'clock start, so they were back in their beds by

697
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 2: midnight on Sunday or Sunday and Monday morning, so I

698
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: think that that was the decision. And so the basic

699
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: answer to your question is no, they're not doing anything

700
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: special with it. You know, he always has very very

701
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: loud music playing no matter what. For these practices. I

702
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: would I would hate to be a neighbor of the

703
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: forty nine ers or some some residential homes around that area.

704
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's that's basically the preparation that they've had.

705
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: Matt good stuff. Anything I missed that that that's a

706
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: big story that you've kind of been focusing on that

707
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: that Giant fan should know about any into this game.

708
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: Their weak side linebacker de Winters, who's basically an every

709
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: down linebacker. So they're already already playing without Fred Warner.

710
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: The weak side linebacker is de Winters. He's dealing with

711
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: a knee injury. So it could be that they're without

712
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: their top two linebackers in that game, which I would

713
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: imagine would be something that the Giants running game would

714
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: be very very interested in.

715
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: Shall we say, Matt good stuff, my friend see out

716
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: here in a few days, look forward to see and

717
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: we'll talk.

718
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: So all right, thanks.

719
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: If you want to know how to manage two minutes

720
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: of crunch time football, I'm your man, But if you're

721
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: wondering about a long term financial plan, you should talk

722
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: to citizens. Hey, I can also talk long care.

723
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: I'd like to learn about an Molli routine.

724
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,239
Speaker 1: Yes, I knew I could help makes sense of your

725
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: money with citizens. Good job for Matt, great information, a man.

726
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: The Niners are banged up. The Giants should have an

727
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: opportunity here to make some noise against a really injured

728
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers team. All right, let's turn our attention

729
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: to the head coach of the Giants, Brian Dable. He

730
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: is spoken to and interviewed by the voice of the Giants,

731
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: Bob Papa.

732
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 5: As always were joined by the head coach of the

733
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 5: New York Giants, Brian Dable. And coach, you got a

734
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 5: San Francisco team coming in here. They're coming off of

735
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 5: loss last week against the Houston Texans, but they have

736
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 5: one of the best backs in the National Football League,

737
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 5: and Christian McCaffrey leads the league in touches. It looks

738
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 5: like they're using them every which way but Sunday, and

739
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 5: it looks like he hasn't lost a step or anything. Coach,

740
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 5: when you look at him on film and you study

741
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 5: him and get ready for this game today. What are

742
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 5: some of the things that really stand out when you

743
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 5: watch the tape.

744
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 6: Well, there's not much he can't do. So he's he's

745
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 6: got quickness and explosiveness, he's got power, he's got speed.

746
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 6: The unique thing about him is that he really can

747
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 6: line up anywhere and play that position. So you have

748
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 6: running backs that time that you can use out of

749
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 6: the backfield or spread out, and they really run running

750
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 6: back type routes. This guy can run receiver routes and

751
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 6: you know he can do it against really any defenders

752
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 6: that are covering him. So they want to get him

753
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 6: the ball. They want him get him the ball early,

754
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 6: they want to get him the ball in situations. He's

755
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 6: a go to player for them, and you know half

756
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 6: the time he's touching the ball.

757
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 5: Coachum obviously brock Perty has been dealing with an injury

758
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 5: and mac Jones has been starting for them. He's a

759
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 5: little bit banged up as well. You know as of

760
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 5: this recording, not sure yet who's going to start in

761
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 5: the football game.

762
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: Does that cause.

763
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 5: Tremendous problems when you're trying to prepare for them, or

764
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 5: do they have a lot of similar traits that it's

765
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 5: not like they have two different completely style offenses. Yeah,

766
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 5: they're able to operate Coach Sahan's office at a high level,

767
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 5: both of them. Again, it's it's not two completely different players.

768
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 5: They're different, but I wouldn't say it's like, you know,

769
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 5: you're dealing with, you know, a quarterback that runs and

770
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 5: can move out of the pocket and do all those quarterback.

771
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 6: Runs and things like that, not that they can't. And

772
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 6: then you have a guy that's just a drop back

773
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 6: passer that sits in a pocket. You know, those two

774
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 6: guys can do a little bit of both. They're both

775
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 6: athletic enough, they both have a good grasp of the system.

776
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 6: They're both good with their footwork, their timing their throws,

777
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 6: which is a premium in that system. So you watch

778
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 6: the games that they've played. But you know, coach system

779
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 6: is pretty expansive. He does a good job with with

780
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 6: both those quarterbacks, and both those quarterbacks can operate a

781
00:35:59,000 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 6: system at a high level.

782
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 5: Coach obviously, every team deals with it. Your team is

783
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 5: dealing with it right now with you know, injuries. It

784
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 5: happens in the National Football League, especially on the defensive

785
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 5: side of the ball, with the backfield the defensive you

786
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 5: know secondary, how hard is it or how has it

787
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 5: been trying to just get a lot of different guys

788
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 5: up to speed here so that you know you have

789
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 5: continuity when you get out there and the communication lines

790
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 5: are good.

791
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got another lot of new guys back there.

792
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 6: Again, they come in, they spend extra time with the

793
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 6: coaching staff, their position coaches after the meetings, watch an

794
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 6: extra tape. You know, get them as many reps as

795
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 6: you can on the practice field. A lot of new

796
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 6: faces back there. But you know that's the job of

797
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 6: the coaches is to try to do whatever we can

798
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 6: do to get them to understand the things we need

799
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 6: to do. They got to put the time and effort in.

800
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 6: And you know, again, every team deals with it. You know,

801
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 6: we deal with it, whether it's the defensive backfield, whether

802
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 6: it was Andrew Thomas or or in the year, whether

803
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 6: it's Elik Neighbors, whether it's Cam Scataboo. You know, you

804
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 6: just deal with deal with the.

805
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: Hand your delt the coach.

806
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 5: Maybe people don't under don't give it enough credit, but

807
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 5: it really ties into special teams though, too, doesn't it,

808
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 5: Because you have people that are playing backup roles that

809
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 5: now are starting for you playing more snaps than either

810
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 5: defense or offense, and that that rotation as far as

811
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 5: fits on special teams comes into play, doesn't it.

812
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's a great point, Bob. It's uh, you know,

813
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 6: special teams is critical you get a punt blocked or

814
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 6: give up a long one. That's a that's an explosive

815
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 6: playing the game. That usually changes the game, you know,

816
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 6: for either side. So you know you're talking about the

817
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 6: punt team. There's a lot of things that go into

818
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 6: protecting the kicker, the punter when he's punting the ball,

819
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 6: and the communication that needs to take place with the

820
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 6: variety of looks that you get, you know, whether it's

821
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 6: eight guys up, seven guys up, five guys on one side,

822
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 6: guys walking around and that commune munication, it's you know,

823
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 6: it's almost like an offensive line. Those guys have to

824
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 6: be in sync along with the personal protector. And you

825
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 6: know we've had a you know, not like most teams

826
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 6: and be if you had to get to move guys

827
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 6: around and those guys got as much work as they can.

828
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 5: Let's talk about offense here. Obviously, Scataboo was a very

829
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 5: important figure to what you guys were doing and you know,

830
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 5: a shame what happened to him last year last week,

831
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 5: but you know it's it's next man up mentality. Uh,

832
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 5: you know, running the football obviously, Tyrone Tracy had a

833
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 5: really good year for you last year. And you know

834
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 5: Singletary when he got an opportunity last week he made

835
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 5: above and ex'es and O's play on that wheel route

836
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 5: down the left side. Is that kind of what it

837
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 5: takes when you're down bodies, is to guys to make

838
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 5: some plays that you know, just a off schedule a

839
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 5: little bit.

840
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think that that room is you know,

841
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 6: that's a room that we've had a lot of confidence in.

842
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 6: You know, since we started this year, there's say three

843
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 6: capable play And I'm not saying you have that in

844
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 6: every room like that because you're auting new players and

845
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 6: teaching you guys, but we've had some guys that have

846
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 6: been here that have played football in this league that

847
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 6: have been productive in this league. And you know that's

848
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 6: whether it's Trace or whether it's Motor, have a lot

849
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 6: of confidence in both of those guys to go ahead

850
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 6: and fill whatever roles we need him to fill. Coach,

851
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 6: I want to ask you about Jackson Dart here, because

852
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 6: he's going through this journey right as a rookie quarterback

853
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 6: and you see things, maybe for the first time or whatever.

854
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 6: He's he's done a really good job here of leading

855
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 6: this football team. What are some of the things that

856
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 6: have impressed you the most about him as he goes

857
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 6: through this process of weekend and week out being a

858
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 6: starter in the league. I think he learns from things

859
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 6: that happened the week before. Again, we've we've had a

860
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 6: couple of rookies over the past few years that you

861
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 6: know have done a pretty good job, whether it was Tommy,

862
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 6: whether it's Josh Back and Buffalo, and you know, you

863
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 6: learn from those experience as a coach. And this guy

864
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 6: is a unique player and the fact that you know

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Speaker 6: he's he's extremely smart for a young guy. He's a

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Speaker 6: great listener, he's very very humble, and he's got high

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Speaker 6: expectations of himself and that's why you know he puts

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Speaker 6: so much time and effort into it. And then when

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Speaker 6: he gets out on the field, you know he's been

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Speaker 6: productive and the things that he's done and then the

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Speaker 6: things that you know, maybe we can you know, help

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Speaker 6: him be a little bit better at or he's like, man,

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Speaker 6: this I wish I had this one back. We can

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Speaker 6: learn from that. And you know, he puts he puts

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Speaker 6: an unbelievable amount of time into it is very important

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Speaker 6: to him. He's committed to, you know, helping this team,

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Speaker 6: helping this offense be the best leader in quarterback he

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Speaker 6: can be. And you know, I just think the thing

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Speaker 6: I'm most proud of is each week we learn, you know,

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Speaker 6: and he learns a few different things that you know,

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Speaker 6: maybe we can do a little bit better and maybe

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Speaker 6: we can tweak some things to help him.

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Speaker 3: It's it's.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's been good with him, and you know

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Speaker 6: we got to continue to keep criming and learning from

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Speaker 6: our mistakes and getting better. But certainly happy we have them.

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Speaker 5: Coach, we appreciate a couple of minutes. Best of luck

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Speaker 5: this afternoon, and we'll do it again next week.

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