WEBVTT - Where's the Beef...the Celebrity Beef?!

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio E.

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<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 3>That's me.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, look at you, I know, look at me.

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<v Speaker 2>Got a question for you? Do you yeah? I do?

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<v Speaker 2>You want to know what it is? Do you know

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<v Speaker 2>what ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 3>I do know it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not my question. Now my question. Did you know

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<v Speaker 2>it's ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 3>I do know it's ridiculous, and I have I have

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<v Speaker 3>a quick question for you. What's the best wedding you

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<v Speaker 3>ever went to?

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<v Speaker 2>Best wedding I ever went to? Okay, this is like

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<v Speaker 2>a trick question, like other than your own, right, that's like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the thing wedding? Okay, I went to one in

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<v Speaker 2>a church in Carmel that was really cool. It was

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<v Speaker 2>the Mission Carmel Church and was cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, what was the reception?

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<v Speaker 2>Like? I kin was young? I cut out. I was

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't want to, I don't want it. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like it was nice.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like it was super nice.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why I was like, I'm out of here. Deuces?

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<v Speaker 3>Did they have did they serve chicken tenders there?

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<v Speaker 2>I do not believe they did, Elizabeth. I left before

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<v Speaker 2>all of the dinner courses were served. But I do

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<v Speaker 2>not think there's chicken.

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<v Speaker 3>I think a good wedding should just be like a

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<v Speaker 3>good party. Yes, I like that, like a wedding reception

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<v Speaker 3>should it be?

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<v Speaker 2>The weddings usually an indication of the marriage. And so

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<v Speaker 2>this couple big show did not last.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, it is. It is an indication. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's you got to do what's you You gotta

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<v Speaker 3>be genuine and so you know, you got to throw

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<v Speaker 3>a good party for reception. And July twenty first five

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<v Speaker 3>special day. Okay, it's National Chicken Tender Day. And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to guess there are a lot of couples out

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<v Speaker 3>there who are like, honey.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you being paid for this?

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<v Speaker 3>Stop it? We got to get married on a special day,

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<v Speaker 3>like what's some day with a lot of meaning for us?

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<v Speaker 3>National Chicken Tender Day?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, Chicken tendys tends.

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<v Speaker 3>And so you think about, okay, where should we get married?

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<v Speaker 3>That's the other question. All right, we know the date

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<v Speaker 3>Chicken Nash Chicken t first. How about big racle.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's good to be hot?

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<v Speaker 3>Vegas is yeah, exactly, July Vegas. So July twenty first, Vegas,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're gonna like Okay, let's go to the iconic

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<v Speaker 3>Viva Las Vegas Wedding Chapel.

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<v Speaker 2>Why not. It sounds like there's some kind of Elvis angle.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the big like it's really important, like who's

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<v Speaker 3>your officiant?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh right is maker?

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<v Speaker 3>Break right?

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<v Speaker 4>There?

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<v Speaker 3>You got a good efficiant that's solid.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the captain of the of the wedding.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, what about this? There's this guy, Manny Mayo, mister Mayo,

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<v Speaker 3>Manny Mayo. He's like the perfect one. You know why,

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<v Speaker 3>because Manny Mayo is the Hellman's Mayonnaise mascot. I'm showing

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<v Speaker 3>you this picture right.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that looks scary.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the whole thing basically. Okay, So Hellman's Mayonnaise

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<v Speaker 3>Sin City Wedding giveaway, so you can enter to win

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<v Speaker 3>to get married on National Chicken Tender Day because they're

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<v Speaker 3>promoting their new Chicken Tender dipline. Oh god, we so

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<v Speaker 3>many people sent this to us like this has just

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<v Speaker 3>had like alarms going off and they picked up the

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<v Speaker 3>Elizabeth batphone. Yeah. So you can get married in the

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<v Speaker 3>Viva Las Vegas Wedding Chapel. It's officiated by Manny Mayo.

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<v Speaker 3>The reception features a chicken tender tower and all these

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<v Speaker 3>chicken tender dips, a professional photographer, and then a five

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars stipend to cover travel costs. So that says

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<v Speaker 3>entrance must be twenty one years or older and must

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<v Speaker 3>be engaged or in a series relationship ready to tie

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<v Speaker 3>it off. So you can't just grab a buddy and

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<v Speaker 3>be like, listen this, we're doing this. You have until

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<v Speaker 3>June twentieth to enter. So anyway, yeah, anyone out there

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<v Speaker 3>who wants to get married by a jar mayo.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the standing offer there.

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<v Speaker 3>It is this summer boom done and who there?

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<v Speaker 5>It is?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Then you know what that's that is?

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<v Speaker 2>Ps. Why you know they replaced the name for chicken

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<v Speaker 2>tenders like in my lifetime because at one point they

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<v Speaker 2>were often referred to as chicken fingers. Yeah, chicken fingers,

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<v Speaker 2>which is one of the worst names for food you

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<v Speaker 2>could ever think of, chicken fingers. It's one, chickens don't

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<v Speaker 2>have fingers, and then two, why would you want to

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<v Speaker 2>need a chicken You ever see fingers?

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<v Speaker 3>Chicken feet? Like in the supermarket they call them chicken paws?

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<v Speaker 2>Do they I've only ever seen them like in China Town.

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<v Speaker 2>So they don't have it in English.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't go to Walmart enough, my friend.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I do not.

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<v Speaker 2>They won't let me not after they lost time.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a connoisseur. I can tell you, like what's a

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<v Speaker 3>good Walmart and what's like a.

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<v Speaker 2>Subpart that's your time in the South.

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<v Speaker 3>I did. I did my time, and now I'm an expert.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you know American Canyon a really.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll keep that. Let me take a note American Canyon.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want to ever get married by a Mayo?

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<v Speaker 3>Jar tried it in the Walmart parking lot? American came here.

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<v Speaker 2>There's space plenty of parking. Frank Rbs, I got a

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<v Speaker 2>fun one for you today. It's like a lazy Susan

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<v Speaker 2>of crime. Yeah, you gave it a spin and to

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<v Speaker 2>see what's on offer. When the spinning wheel stops. Celebrity

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<v Speaker 2>beefs that lead to catching hands. Oh yeah, well it's

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<v Speaker 2>not what you think because it's like sliced alone and

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<v Speaker 2>Princess Die. They fought Steven Seagal versus pants, rotier gear,

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<v Speaker 2>rootier gear, catching an elbow to the face and everyone's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. Shaia wants to fight Tom hardy. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's like the old. Lastly, there's that one famous beef

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<v Speaker 2>that led to the greatest art of the twenty first century. Ready,

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<v Speaker 2>I am daddy, Let's go. This is Ridiculous Crime a podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm at absurd and outrageous capers, heists and cons. It's

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<v Speaker 2>always ninety nine percent murder free and it's one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>percent ridiculous. Jeez oh, Elizabeth, where is the beef? The

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<v Speaker 2>celebrity beef? I've got it here. Why are they so

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<v Speaker 2>fun and always so ridiculous? Do you have any favorite

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<v Speaker 2>celebrity beefs? Ever? Like you know, I'll give you a

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<v Speaker 2>moment to think.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I need a lot of moments.

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<v Speaker 2>Eddie van Halen versus Fred Durst of Limp Biscuit.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good one. Didn't that involve like a tank?

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<v Speaker 2>He drove. Eddie van Halen drove a tank across Los

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<v Speaker 2>Angeles to get his guitar back that he had loaned

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<v Speaker 2>Fred Durst. That's the level of celebrity beef that I

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<v Speaker 2>want in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't really. You know, fifty beefs with

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people, and he's very petty, he's very

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<v Speaker 3>good at it and he's usually pretty truthful.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's usually right.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like dicey and real in his own life. Yes, sure,

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<v Speaker 3>aren't we all aren't we? We're all problematic in one

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<v Speaker 3>way or another.

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<v Speaker 2>Vitamin water, money, just f around and find out.

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<v Speaker 3>But I like how he'll just start, He'll just start something. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, then you know my favorite beef.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your favorite beef?

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<v Speaker 3>Kendrick lamar Oh and Aubrey and Aubrey. That that's what

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<v Speaker 3>I thought.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you were going to go right to though.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you when those when they were dropping the songs,

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<v Speaker 3>like how exciting that was?

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<v Speaker 2>You would text me like within minutes it.

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<v Speaker 3>Would come out and you'd have to like listen and listen,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're just like I would. My jaw would drop.

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<v Speaker 2>The poetry levels are incredible, like the layers upon layers.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the man deserves his pulitz.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a genius.

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<v Speaker 2>So today I've got tales of celebrity beefs that obviously

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<v Speaker 2>border on the criminal, because that's what we do. We

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<v Speaker 2>got fistfights, elbows, the face, heated battles.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite, though, is Steven Sagall versus Pants. So let's

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<v Speaker 2>start with dessert. Elizabeth, do you know that Stephen Sagall

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<v Speaker 2>was once humbled and the most fantastic way possible.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Before I tell you that story, we need to cover

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<v Speaker 2>a little backstory. We've discussed Steven Sagall before. How could

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<v Speaker 2>we not? The man is a walking poem of ridiculousness.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you that one time, how he was involved

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<v Speaker 2>in a sheriff's raid down Americopa County, Arizona, where he

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<v Speaker 2>and a tank tag team to house and that turned

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<v Speaker 2>into a whole debacle. Well, I got at least two

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<v Speaker 2>other Stephen Sagall debacles for you today. Now, Steven Sagall

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<v Speaker 2>himself needs really no backstory. I don't think he is

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<v Speaker 2>Steven Sagal, But this story requires just a little history. Elizabeth,

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to now meet our fighters. Okay, First

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<v Speaker 2>we have John Leguizamo. He's fun, right him now. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>when he was first starting out, he was in a

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<v Speaker 2>movie called Executive Decision. You're familiar with this film?

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<v Speaker 3>Vague It sounds vaguely familiar.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a vague film and it came out in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety six. As you can probably tell by the title,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a largely forgettable nineties action thriller. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a product of super producer Joel Silver, the

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<v Speaker 2>guy who did Like the Batman. Now the cast is

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<v Speaker 2>some of our favorites. There's Law and Orders bead.

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<v Speaker 3>Wong I Love I Know.

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<v Speaker 2>Stabas Sergeant Louis Young US Army Special Forces. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Morton ak Eli Pope from Scandal. He plays First

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<v Speaker 2>Sergeant Campbell Cappie Matheny this Army Special Forces. There's also

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<v Speaker 2>Halle Berry as Jean the flight attendant, Poor Hallie. And

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<v Speaker 2>the big star was Kurt Russell as doctor David Grant,

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<v Speaker 2>assultant for US Army Intelligence. Then there's the other big star,

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<v Speaker 2>Steven Sagall as Lieutenant Colonel Austin Travis.

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<v Speaker 3>He's all Texas, Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you caught that. Now you can tell by

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<v Speaker 2>his name. He's a cowboy who's a loose cannon bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a maverick. It's all there now, I th're under

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<v Speaker 2>this a mix of a young actor named John Leguizamo

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<v Speaker 2>as Captain Carlos ak Rat Lopez, Oh boy tough right,

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<v Speaker 2>also the nineties right, also from the US Army Special Forces.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the plot doesn't matter, it really does not, But

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<v Speaker 2>there's nerve gas on a plane that terrors planned to

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<v Speaker 2>detonate over Washington, d C. When that happened, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's only one man who can save the world, Steven Segal,

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<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth in the name of journalism. I didn't watch the movie,

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<v Speaker 2>but I did watch the trailer, and it featured great lines,

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<v Speaker 2>like in an age when terrorism knows no boundaries and

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<v Speaker 2>the level of threat knows no limit.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, this is ninety six. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Cut to Kurt Russell saying to the President, Sir, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think this is about hostages, Elizabeth. It was not

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<v Speaker 2>about hostages. No, it was about nerve gas. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a passenger plane carrying a load of hijack nerve gas.

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<v Speaker 2>It's basically a flying mass destruction device before nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but luckily this is triggering.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the narrative when global response is routine and

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<v Speaker 2>advanced technology can accomplish miracles, a life or death decision

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<v Speaker 2>for hundreds of hostages in a plane or forty million

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<v Speaker 2>civilians on the ground will come down to a choice

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<v Speaker 2>between doing the unthinkable and the impossible. Elizabeth, will give

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<v Speaker 2>you a week. Makes no sense. When I was writing

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<v Speaker 2>it out, I'm like, am I missing.

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<v Speaker 3>A line, and I have to go back and in

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<v Speaker 3>the beginning is weird Silicon Valley ass like tech solutions.

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<v Speaker 2>When you go back and you actually read the phrases

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<v Speaker 2>that they're together.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the choice. You're making a choice between.

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<v Speaker 2>The unthinkable and the impossible, and one of those is

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<v Speaker 2>Steven sig I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Even know that. I don't know where they're going with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Warner Brothers invites you these days David's astlof runs Warner

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<v Speaker 2>Brothers into the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>In the nineties, get paid.

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<v Speaker 2>Things weren't much better, apparently, because apparently Warner Brothers in

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<v Speaker 2>doing the research on this, I was reading about it

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<v Speaker 2>and I found this one juicy fact. Warner Brothers traded

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<v Speaker 2>the script for Forrest Gump for the script for Executive

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<v Speaker 2>Decision because Steven Sagal wanted to star in it.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait stop it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they thought Forrest Gump was like, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a long shot where his executive decision, that's fire him.

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<v Speaker 3>What if they needed to fill a film for Sagall's

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<v Speaker 3>contract and.

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<v Speaker 2>He was Forrest Gum, that would be incredible. Steven is

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<v Speaker 2>Forrest Gus kicking aster history all slow.

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<v Speaker 3>With like the like Schill Act exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Pulled back all type. So steven Sagall movies, they came

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<v Speaker 2>out just prior to this one, the ones that came

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<v Speaker 2>out prior he was on a run, and then he

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<v Speaker 2>had one that did not do well and then another.

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<v Speaker 2>So now he's got a two bad movie slide and

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<v Speaker 2>this movie you got to come out and it's in production.

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<v Speaker 2>So Wonderful is like, oh no. The be Ingcounters decide, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to juice up executive decision, so they bring

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<v Speaker 2>in Kurt Russell as a top draw and a major

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<v Speaker 2>co star because he can't carry a movie by himself.

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<v Speaker 2>He's insulted by that. Stevensall is like, why would you

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<v Speaker 2>do that? So apparently his ego bristled. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>hit him like a Judo chop. So what does he do?

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<v Speaker 2>Being steven Sagall, he takes that on everyone around him.

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<v Speaker 3>Ka Kiyak exactly, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Cast, the crew, pretty much anyone on the set of

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<v Speaker 2>that movie. And I remind you the cast list, Hallie Barry,

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<v Speaker 2>Kurt Russell, bea d Wong, Joe Morton, Oliver Platt who

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't mention before, John Leguizambo. True right, they all

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<v Speaker 2>had to suffer through like five weeks of Steve.

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<v Speaker 3>Wall right on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, at his pissy pants worse unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So the other well, I'll give you an example. This

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<v Speaker 2>is from John Leguizambo at the official cast rehearsals like

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<v Speaker 2>they haven't started shooting yet. The directors there, B D Wong,

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<v Speaker 2>is there, Joe Morton, Oliver Platt, th all there right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>in walked steven Sagal and he says to everyone in

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<v Speaker 2>the room, I'm in command. What I saying is law.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just open command.

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<v Speaker 2>Aside from that, that's his opening line.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in command.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm in command.

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<v Speaker 3>What I say is That's how he introduces him.

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<v Speaker 2>He establishes the tone and temper for the film with that,

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<v Speaker 2>no further delay. Let's get ready.

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<v Speaker 4>This part of me at the Tony Award winning Broadway

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<v Speaker 4>actor start more than one films, the man who can

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<v Speaker 4>play anything, mister Jo. And in this corner we have

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<v Speaker 4>a therapeutic oil salesman, actor, writer, musician, volunteer, Shriff's deputy

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<v Speaker 4>and martial arts master star of more than fifty films,

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<v Speaker 4>The man who made mumble acting a thing, Mister Stevens

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<v Speaker 4>a gold wait.

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<v Speaker 3>Is he like a Russian citizen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you're like, yeah, defected and put and give

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<v Speaker 2>him citizenship. And he goes over there. He gives like

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<v Speaker 2>martial arts to get.

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<v Speaker 3>Its slow suspicions where he he kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of like stumble washing arounds.

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<v Speaker 3>Around the people run into him and thrown down, and

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<v Speaker 3>then he wears. He wears like very what's his name,

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<v Speaker 3>Andre Leon tally Tan they have tans. Yeah, he's very

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<v Speaker 3>like eastern end of Russia is in his.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, completely very loose. He's he's all about

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<v Speaker 2>the flow, Elizabeth. Yeah. Now as our fighters step inside

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<v Speaker 2>the ring, the two fighters will size each other up.

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<v Speaker 2>Steven sagall is not known for his panther leg quickness,

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<v Speaker 2>so expect a lumbering presence from him today. Now, John Leguizamo,

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<v Speaker 2>he can move like a spider monkey on a coke binch.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got the speed, he's got. The agility question is

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<v Speaker 2>is can he get inside? Steven Sagah has got the

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<v Speaker 2>height and the reach. Let's see what the opening move is. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Steven Seagal is lumbering around, as we said, that's to

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<v Speaker 2>be expected. John Leguizamo is sizing him up, and he

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<v Speaker 2>looks ready to Yes, here comes a first strike, Elizabeth,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a yes. John Leguizamo is laughing in his face

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<v Speaker 2>in a mocking tone. He's scoffing at the self, serious Sagal.

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<v Speaker 2>That's gonna be a wounding blow. Oh, the big man

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<v Speaker 2>does not like that. Look at his face. You have no.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Segall's response. His hand shoots forward. Oh he makes contact.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that looks painful. John Leguizamo's just shoved across the

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<v Speaker 2>film set with some kind of kung fu chop. Legazambo

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<v Speaker 2>is not gonna be getting up anytime soon. Oh, kids,

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<v Speaker 2>let's even get a word from the actor. Mister, mister

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<v Speaker 2>leg Guzambo, how are you feeling? Can you tell us

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<v Speaker 2>what happened at this point? Elizabeth? The actor looks up.

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<v Speaker 3>From their Bike's all right? When he walks in and

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<v Speaker 3>introduces him.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, this is I'm just describing. If this is the

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<v Speaker 2>imagined moment, I'm just describing for you, that's their entire fight.

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<v Speaker 2>He laughed in his face, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>Steven Sagall decides I'm gonna go full martial artists on

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<v Speaker 2>you and throws them across the room. Here's how mister

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<v Speaker 2>leg Ozamo. Can we tell us anything about what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>The actor looks up and says, so I started laughing,

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<v Speaker 2>and he slammed me with like an aketo elbow against

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<v Speaker 2>a brick wall, knocked all the air out of me.

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<v Speaker 2>I dropped to the ground. All I could say was

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<v Speaker 2>why why there? You're having elizabeth An artists recreation of

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<v Speaker 2>the fight between Steve Sagal and jogging leg Gizambo. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want you to think that Sigal got the

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<v Speaker 2>last laugh in that. According to Legizambo, quote, on the

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<v Speaker 2>days when we shot the scene when he died, I

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<v Speaker 2>showed up so early. I wanted to see him die.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like a fantasy. So he did and he

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<v Speaker 2>got to enjoy that. Catharsis now recently very.

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<v Speaker 3>Alert by the way that he dies in the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>He said in an interview that he based his character

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<v Speaker 2>in the movie The Menu on Steven Sagal. Miss John

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<v Speaker 2>leg was over and I guess the character is this

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<v Speaker 2>terrible person because leg was. Amo added that Sagal was

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<v Speaker 2>the perfect fit as the model for the character because quote,

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<v Speaker 2>he's kind of a horrible human.

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<v Speaker 3>So this goes around assaulting people exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's similar to George Clooney and David Russell were like

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<v Speaker 2>decades later, he's still using him as like the high

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<v Speaker 2>or low water mark in this case. Now, remember I

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<v Speaker 2>said Steven Sagall versus his pants at the top. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>he says, Well, there's this guy named Jean LaBelle. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>he was a badass. He was. He was a real

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<v Speaker 2>judo master, and he was also a legit buddy of

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<v Speaker 2>Bruce Lee. He was a stunt coordinator, worked with Bruce

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<v Speaker 2>Lee when Bruce Lee was in Hollywood back like on

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<v Speaker 2>the Green Hornet. Now he's this legit martial arts instructor,

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<v Speaker 2>total stunt coordinator. The studios love him, total pro works

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<v Speaker 2>in Hollywood forever. Right this point, it's nineteen ninety one,

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<v Speaker 2>Steven Sagall is coming up. He's at this point make

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<v Speaker 2>his name. LaBelle was working as a stunt coordinator on

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<v Speaker 2>Sigal's like big first hit out for Justice. Okay, yeah, which,

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't know, is this nineties action film right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, so you can probably tell from the meaningless title

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<v Speaker 2>it's an action film. So at the time, LaBelle fifty

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<v Speaker 2>eight years old. He doesn't like bullies, he doesn't like braggarts,

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<v Speaker 2>blowhards and bs artists.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Coincidentally, Steven Sagal is all of those. So Steven Sagal

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<v Speaker 2>had this standing boast at the time apparently that he

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<v Speaker 2>was I'm immune to choke holds, like he would.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell out there, because someone's gonna come.

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<v Speaker 2>And correct the record completely. He would tell, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like all martial artists like train a lot, he trained,

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<v Speaker 2>he claimed enough that he could, I am immune to

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<v Speaker 2>being choked out.

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<v Speaker 3>He you know what, I'd be like, let me give

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<v Speaker 3>it a shot.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what Gean LeBell was thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>So and then I come up behind with a garrot.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't go as far as you now. Monday, on

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<v Speaker 2>the film set, Steven Sagal was like bad mouthing a

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<v Speaker 2>stunt man for like apparently I guess he did practicing

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<v Speaker 2>a choke holt or something and he wasn't doing it

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<v Speaker 2>very well. And Sigal is mistreating the guys. So this

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<v Speaker 2>badass stunt coordinator, Jean Lebel, stands up for his stunt man,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm guessing LeBell, you know, criticize the choke hold

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<v Speaker 2>the Cigal was applying, and Seagall's like, well, it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be a problem for me. I just remember I'm immune

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<v Speaker 2>to choke hold because you know, Segall's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>basically defending the fact of how he's abusing the staff

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<v Speaker 2>or the crew, you know, and so Labelle's like, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't be doing that, not on my set. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, well, I guess he's just not immune to

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<v Speaker 2>choke O. Maybe he should train more. Like he's just

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<v Speaker 2>being a jerk, right, He's being about cigall jerk where

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<v Speaker 2>he's just like, just like, I can slow my heart

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<v Speaker 2>rate down, so it's not a problem for me, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like that kind of stuff you would think I'm dead.

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<v Speaker 2>You can basically imagine if he's like the one kid

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<v Speaker 2>when you were ten who would say like the wildest

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<v Speaker 2>stuff and you just knew he was lying, but you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to challenge him because then he would literally

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<v Speaker 2>probably do something to hurt himself. Right. He's like, so

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying, I couldn't joke you out anyway. Sagall is like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he basically tells LeBell like, you know, mind

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<v Speaker 2>your own business. Labelle's like, man, I've heard you talk

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<v Speaker 2>and I could choke you out, Like you think you

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<v Speaker 2>could choke me out. I'm immune. So la Bell's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I could choke you out, and he's like, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not good, I'm immune. Don't they get into it? And

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<v Speaker 2>apparently at some point seems Sagull's like, yeah, let's get

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<v Speaker 2>into position go and he lets him put the squeeze

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<v Speaker 2>on him. Three two one, Steven Sagall's head laws he

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<v Speaker 2>goes out right because Label's yeah, no joke. And apparently

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<v Speaker 2>while he's out, he soils himself and I'm talking like

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<v Speaker 2>he filled both the front and the back of his jeans. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>karate gee whatever he was wearing. So before he passed away,

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<v Speaker 2>Jean Lebel spoke with the MMA journalist Ariel Helwani, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and this guy wanted to get the story from him

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<v Speaker 2>because he would never tell the story. He wouldn't, so

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<v Speaker 2>finally he gets LaBelle to tell the story and he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, well we had a little altercation or difference

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<v Speaker 2>of opinion. There were thirty stuntmen and cameramen that were watching.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes Steven has a tendency to cheese off to the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong people. You can get hurt doing that. So he's

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<v Speaker 2>just like classic tough guy, right, but what does he

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<v Speaker 2>mean by that? Exactly? The guy presses him. La Bell

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<v Speaker 2>goes well, if a guy soils himself, you can't criticize.

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<v Speaker 2>And because if they just had a nice big dinner

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<v Speaker 2>an hour before, you might just have a tendency to

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<v Speaker 2>do that. So he basically can you know, it confirms

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<v Speaker 2>that he made him crap out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you filled his palazzo pants now.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, right before he finishes his story, he says, at

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<v Speaker 2>one point, you know, he's talking about like why he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't tell the story and like why Steven Stigall shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>talk so much, and he uses his pure dojo wisdom.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, closed mouth, don't catch any foot. Oh, I'm

0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:29.800
<v Speaker 2>adding that to the mantra for Burnett. Hey Burnett, remember

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<v Speaker 2>closed mouth, don't catch any foot. Anyway, on that note,

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<v Speaker 2>let me close my mouth. We'll take or break, listen

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<v Speaker 2>to some ads, chill out, and be back in.

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<v Speaker 5>Two and too.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Elizabeth, we're back. You ready for round two of

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<v Speaker 2>celebrity beefs?

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<v Speaker 3>I sure am now for.

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<v Speaker 2>This next one. I have an equally strange pairing of

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<v Speaker 2>in this case men, both egotists. One is a lover

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<v Speaker 2>not a fighter, a reported pacifist, a Buddhist and the

0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Dali Lama's best buddy in Hollywood. Yeah, there is Sevester Saloon.

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<v Speaker 2>So any guesses on who the other stars in this

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<v Speaker 2>The next Fighter are undercard?

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<v Speaker 3>Who's the tolly Lama pal? Richard Gear?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the next Fighting or cards a wild one producer?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you?

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<v Speaker 4>In this corner we have the American Jiggelow himself the

0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:37.639
<v Speaker 4>officer or was he the gentleman who knows the john

0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:43.159
<v Speaker 4>though to her pretty woman, mister Richard Gear. And in

0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:47.760
<v Speaker 4>this corner, Elizabeth, we have the Italian stallion Tango.

0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Was he Cash?

0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:52.000
<v Speaker 4>He's the brother of Frank. He's the one with the

0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:55.119
<v Speaker 4>first blood energy, the man who has a knife named

0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:59.800
<v Speaker 4>after his character Rambo. That's right, Rocky Balbo himself.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, if you can believe it now that we got

0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:09.920
<v Speaker 2>these two guys into our metaphysical ring, Yes, they get

0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:14.000
<v Speaker 2>into it right. But before they were famous, oh before

0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:16.280
<v Speaker 2>they were matinee idols. Back when they were both young

0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:18.919
<v Speaker 2>up and comers looking for their big break, trying to

0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:21.440
<v Speaker 2>catch time on film. They were both in a film

0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:24.280
<v Speaker 2>called The Lords of Flatbush. Oh yeah, you know that

0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:27.320
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen seventy four films set in nineteen fifty eight Brooklyn.

0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:29.760
<v Speaker 2>It's a story about a group of black leather clad

0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:33.040
<v Speaker 2>greasers with their slick back hair. One of them is Fonsie,

0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:35.920
<v Speaker 2>but he's playing different character. Hey, wrinklers in it. Richard

0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Gear and Sylvester Sloan are in it, But that all

0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:40.679
<v Speaker 2>changed because of the story I'm about to tell you,

0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:42.639
<v Speaker 2>because Richard Gear was not in it when the film

0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:45.800
<v Speaker 2>was done. The story goes on the set of Lords

0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:49.320
<v Speaker 2>of Flatbush. Stallone used to clock Richard Gear doing his

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:52.200
<v Speaker 2>best like cock of the walk parade around the set

0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:56.400
<v Speaker 2>and it bothered Stallone. Right, he had like a real

0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:58.600
<v Speaker 2>inferiority complex when he was a young man, and it

0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:00.960
<v Speaker 2>just he just triggered it hit all the buttons, like

0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:04.119
<v Speaker 2>just put his hands on the keyboard of Stallone. So

0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Richard Gear, he knew he was a pretty boy with

0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:08.880
<v Speaker 2>good hair, and he acted like it. And so Stloone

0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:13.359
<v Speaker 2>burns with envy. So I found Stallone's versions of this story.

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:15.600
<v Speaker 2>So Stallone was once he did at Ama on the

0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:17.399
<v Speaker 2>old fan site. Ain't it cool news?

0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:18.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah?

0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:21.720
<v Speaker 2>And I found that he tells the story of how

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:24.760
<v Speaker 2>he has his beef with Richard Gear began and now

0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 2>take it away, Sylvester Stallone. He would stride around his

0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:32.440
<v Speaker 2>oversized motorcycle jacket like. He was the baddest night at

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:35.760
<v Speaker 2>the round table. One day, during an improv, he grabbed

0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:40.119
<v Speaker 2>me simulate the fight scene. Guys look carried away. I

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:43.240
<v Speaker 2>told him that Joe fashioned lighting up, but he was

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:47.040
<v Speaker 2>completely in character, impossible to deal with. So this is

0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:49.359
<v Speaker 2>the beginning. They're already budding, had young actors, right, but

0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:51.399
<v Speaker 2>you have to understand they're on a film together, so

0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 2>they were guaranteed way more interactions when they weren't on

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:57.520
<v Speaker 2>in front of the camera. Then came the Coney Island incident.

0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm calling it, Island incident. Back to stallone

0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:04.040
<v Speaker 2>and his ain't a cool news reporting on his own past.

0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:07.880
<v Speaker 2>We were rehearsing Coney Island and it was lunch time,

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:10.000
<v Speaker 2>and so we decided to take a break. And the

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:12.280
<v Speaker 2>only place that was warm was in the back seat

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 2>of a Toyota. I was eating the hot dog and

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:19.120
<v Speaker 2>he climbs in with half a chicken and covered in mustard,

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:22.600
<v Speaker 2>with grease nearly dripping out of an aluminum wrapper.

0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:24.919
<v Speaker 3>Wait, he got a half chicken.

0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Richard Gear climbs into the back of a Toyota

0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:31.440
<v Speaker 2>with half of a chicken covered in mustard. I thought

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:33.600
<v Speaker 2>you would now already seen it. In the back of

0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:35.880
<v Speaker 2>that same Toyota slide, Stalone is eating like what I'm

0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:39.119
<v Speaker 2>imagining is a Nathan's famous hot dog. So with that

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 2>imagewelling mind, back to Stallone's story and Richard Gear and

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:46.159
<v Speaker 2>his greasy mustard coated half a chicken. I said, that

0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 2>thing is gonna drip all over the place, and he said, yeah,

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:51.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't worry about it. I said, if it gets

0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 2>on my pant, you're gonna know about it. He proceeds

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:57.920
<v Speaker 2>to bite into the chicken and a small greasy river

0:25:58.000 --> 0:26:01.480
<v Speaker 2>of mustard lands on my thigh. I opened them in

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:03.680
<v Speaker 2>the side of the head and basically pushed them out

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:04.200
<v Speaker 2>of the car.

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:08.440
<v Speaker 3>So and then they're all piled into a car. Totally greasy.

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:11.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in the back of a Toyota.

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 3>Lords of Flats in the seventies.

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 2>No one had Toyota in the seventies.

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 3>No Lords of Flat bushes. It was like you see it.

0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:21.199
<v Speaker 3>I saw it at Blockbuster, like on the shelf, like

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 3>that looks cool, and then you get it like I

0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 3>wasted it.

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:29.880
<v Speaker 2>That's why I've never had wasted at that thought. Also,

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:32.920
<v Speaker 2>I love it in this moment, so thatst just stones

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 2>like my clothing, my pan mysla.

0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean, what's up, tough guys like.

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:42.480
<v Speaker 2>You gotta get out of Toyota. It was it a sedan,

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:45.160
<v Speaker 2>I imagine, like a Toyota celica, one of those.

0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:48.359
<v Speaker 3>Inten They climbed into the bed of a pickup.

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:50.159
<v Speaker 2>There you go. I don't think it'd be warm. But

0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:54.200
<v Speaker 2>they're right up in blankets together looking at the stars.

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 3>With one of the cats over.

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:56.120
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but at this point, now that's creepier. It is

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:01.679
<v Speaker 2>creepier put them in the back of a truck. So

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:04.000
<v Speaker 2>the film has a problem because two of their leads

0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 2>do not like each other. And you can't have battling stars,

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:08.200
<v Speaker 2>or you can if you if your director's good at it,

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 2>like a Hitchcock or somebody like that. But if also

0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 2>it's a problem because they're the lesser names on the marquee.

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:17.239
<v Speaker 2>You don't want that kind of distraction. I do not

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:18.959
<v Speaker 2>I did not know. I could not tell you.

0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't really matter.

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 2>So at this point, Stallone well back to story. He

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:25.879
<v Speaker 2>tells the story. The director had to make a choice.

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 2>One of us had to go, one of us had

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:31.919
<v Speaker 2>to stay. Richard was given this walking papers and to

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 2>this day seriously disliked me. He even thinks I'm the

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:44.440
<v Speaker 2>individual responsible for the Durbil ruma not true, that's the rumor. Well, well, Rocky, Rocky,

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:46.159
<v Speaker 2>let him up. You're killing Rocky.

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:52.919
<v Speaker 3>Come on, respect for adult professionals who can't pull it

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 3>together and just you know, we all have to work

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:58.640
<v Speaker 3>with people can't stand. But it's like, you know, I've

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 3>had jobs where it's just like, oh my god, if

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 3>I hear this person talk one more time, But you

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:04.919
<v Speaker 3>do your job and like to be like, oh, it's

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:07.120
<v Speaker 3>him or me, it's not your project.

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Well you're not. Sylvester Stallone, Yes, thank god. But by

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 2>the way, I wasn't going to bring it up. But

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 2>since he did, he ends with the big whammy, the

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Richard Gear Durable story. And if you don't know where

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 2>that is, you can look it up. But I've never

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:22.640
<v Speaker 2>considered this before. But now that he brought it up,

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.360
<v Speaker 2>do you think that Sylvester Stallone started the.

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 3>Durable rumor if he said it like that?

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:29.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because here he is, decades later, no one's brought

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 2>it up, and he's bringing it up like a little

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 2>more life.

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 3>How amazing are those kind of rumors that spread pre internet?

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Oh yeah, everybody knew that. Everyone heard that because

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 2>it was the elements were so amazing.

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but like, how did we all know that? How

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 3>did the word get around?

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 2>It's just the elements. One person tells another person, it's

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 2>a story that's going to hit it in as long

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 2>as one person hears it, they're going to tell people,

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 2>and then they tell two people. It's literally one of

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 2>those like, I.

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 3>Think I think it was sl I think he's freaky.

0:28:57.560 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 2>If this was the Mafia, he's the rat.

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah.

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, fast forward two decades to the nineteen nineties. Now

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 2>they've both become stars, and their stars are fading and

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 2>they're trying to reclaim their stars and they both have

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 2>movies doing well in the nineties, so they're on their

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 2>second wave of stardom. Elton John is hosting a party

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 2>at his home for Jeffrey Katzenberg, who is still with

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Disney at this point. Party, I thought, so, it's part

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 2>of the that you'd like to start. I love you

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 2>have part of the schmoozing of what and boozing that

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 2>goes on in a Hollywood film promotional tour in the nineties,

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 2>is you have a party at Elton John. So it's

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety four and Disney had the Lion King out,

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 2>just roaring across film screens worldwide. Everybody you know it.

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 2>So Elton John throws a party in London, right, I

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 2>guess half of everybody is there because also there that

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 2>night is Richard Gear and you guessed it, Sly the low.

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Elton John doesn't know not to invite

0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 2>the two of them.

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, and he you know, he's really hitting the A list.

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 2>They still hate each other, by the way. Also at

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 2>the party is a newly single and looking to mingle,

0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Princess Diana of Wales. We'll leave it to Sir Elton

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 2>to tell the story straight away. Richie Gear and Diana

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 2>seemed very taken with each other. Now at this point,

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 2>Richard Gear has married and divorced Cindy Crawford, and Princess

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Diana had done the same to Prince Charles, now King Charles.

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Apparently they were both feeling little thirsty, or as you

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 2>would say, she was warm for his form and he

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 2>was aching. He was aching for her bacon. I'd just

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 2>made that one up for you. A for her bacon

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 2>doesn't make sense anyway, as the rest of the US chatted,

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't help notice a strange atmosphere in the room,

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 2>judging by the kinds of looks he kept shooting them.

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Diana and Richie Gear's newly blossoming friendship was not going

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 2>down with Sylvester Stallone at all.

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 3>Wait.

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 2>I think he may have turned up to the party

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 2>with the express intention of picking Diana up, only to

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 2>find his plans for the evening ruined.

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 3>Sylvester he was going to pull Princess.

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Doe at Elton John's house in London, and then he

0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 2>got there and Richard Gear, his old nemesis, he's too

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 2>captain good hair.

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:04.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like I could see Richard Gear happening, but

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 3>like Sylvester Stallone, like Stan, you're Lane my manly, No,

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 3>you're no Dodie.

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 2>So we got Elton John now clocking sad boy Stallone

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 2>as he's losing the princess had pretty boy good hair,

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean Richard Gear. Now, what happens next will likely

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 2>not surprise you. Cut to the dinner service portion of

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 2>this London dinner party. Everyone is seated for dinner. Elton

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 2>notices that there are two prominent seats empty, Sylvester Stallone

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 2>and richerd Gear. Where where could they be? Elizabeth? So

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Elton John calls for his husband, David Furnish, Yeah, sends

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 2>him out to investigate. David good look, and in no

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 2>time he finds the two eighties matinee idols outside. They're

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 2>both squaring up to each other, apparently about to settle

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 2>their differences over Diana by having a fistfight.

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Stop it.

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, they've literally done that. You will take

0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 2>this outide, I'm going to have a duel over the

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:03.200
<v Speaker 2>lad lady. So Elton John's husband breaks up the fist

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 2>fight between Richard Gear and s Lester Stallone, so mactor

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Sir Elton. After dinner, Diana and Richard Gear resumed their

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 2>position together in front of the fire, and Sylvester's stormed

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 2>off her so in his retreat, though Sly apparently had

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 2>enough time to stop and tell Elton that he quote

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 2>never would have come if he knew Prince Effin Charming

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 2>was gonna be there. Oh my god, I don't know

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:27.880
<v Speaker 2>why that story delights me so much.

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 3>It's incredible.

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 2>This it's a simple tale, a fist fight, but somehow

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 2>reveals how ridiculous our world is. Yeah, what brings me

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 2>to my favorite beef of the bunch. In this corner, Producer,

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 2>if you don't mind. In this corner, we.

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 7>Have the bean of Shi's existence, the venom man Denham,

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 7>the one time rapper turn Hollywood actor turned dog dad.

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 6>This daughter.

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 2>We have the man who's more than meets the eye, the.

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 4>Artist not in residence, the angriest man in Hollywood.

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 2>Shine, you told the story of Willie Carter Sharp, the

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 2>moonshine running Prohibition era getaway driver.

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 3>I certainly did.

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Femme fatale, all around badass.

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 3>Yes.

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Well. Tom Hardy and Shia La Booth starred in a

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:29.040
<v Speaker 2>movie about her family, well her gang, right, the twenty

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 2>twelve film Lawless Yeah, based on the book The Wettest

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 2>County in the World. Yes, about Prohibition era backwoods gangster brothers. Yea,

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 2>the BonDurant family. In the film they play the BonDurant Brothers.

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 2>A great movie.

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah.

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:44.560
<v Speaker 2>And well, during the production of that movie, apparently there

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 2>were tensions amongst these very taught actors.

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:51.680
<v Speaker 2>The two notably intense like everybody else, These are probably

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 2>the most intense working actors other than Danielda Lewis and

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:54.960
<v Speaker 2>a couple others.

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Sure, and you know.

0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, one day they get into a bit of a tussle.

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 2>And here's how Tom Hardy tells the tale. I got

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 2>knocked out by Shia Labuff actually in wedd Is County, apparently,

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 2>and the apparently is there for effect. He lets the

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:10.799
<v Speaker 2>statement sink in that one Shia Labouf knocked him out,

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 2>and two he's unaware of it.

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:13.800
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Yes, because Tom Hardy knows how ridiculous that must sound. Yeah, exactly,

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 2>And there's something he knows that you don't know. And

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 2>after the appropriate pause, and because he's a good storyteller,

0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Tom Hardy picks his story back up and as the

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:28.799
<v Speaker 2>missing details, saying, how quote it was behind the scenes, No,

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:32.399
<v Speaker 2>he did, he knocked me out, sparko. How cold. He's

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 2>a bad, bad boy he is. He's quite intimidating as well.

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 2>He's a scary dude. So some folks might hear that

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 2>and think he's kidding, he's joshing around. But I know

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:45.719
<v Speaker 2>what he knows. I learned without the benefit of having

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 2>to be punched by Shia Labuff. Elizabeth, you want to

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 2>know what Tom Hardy and I.

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 3>Know about Shile I do.

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 2>He's a legitimate LA gang banger.

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 3>He's a gang banger for real, No, for real, they

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 3>no jokes.

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Is full on jumped in never jumped Doug gang member

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 2>from back when he was a kid actor and coming

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 2>up on Disney shows. He was also poor, living in

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:07.759
<v Speaker 2>a mostly Mexican neighborhood right by the east side by

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Dodger Stadium. He joined a gang and he used to

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:13.319
<v Speaker 2>do all that slap boxing and fighting thirteen. He can

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:16.239
<v Speaker 2>throw hands. He is a well trained street kid.

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:16.880
<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so Shy is also a live wire as a person.

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 2>If you leave that aside, he's troubled. You put that together,

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 2>sparky guy. He's like that old timer at the bar

0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 2>you do not want to fight. That's him right, Like

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 2>an Irish boxer, a bare knuckle boxer. Anyway, back to

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 2>the story, is Tom Hardy tells it, He just attacked me.

0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 2>He was drinking moonshine. I was wearing a cardigan and

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 2>it went down. I woke up in peanuts.

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 3>Arms wearing a card again.

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:41.759
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:45.319
<v Speaker 2>The Peanut is his personal trainer who was keeping him

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 2>in shape for the movie. And so when his personal

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:51.759
<v Speaker 2>trainer sees Shy Labouth knock out Tom Hardy. According to

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:54.799
<v Speaker 2>Tom Hardy, Peanut was concerned for me. I was like,

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:58.320
<v Speaker 2>what was that? He was lightning fast and he said

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:02.840
<v Speaker 2>that was Shaya And I said, can we go home now? No,

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:07.359
<v Speaker 2>We've got still three weeks to finish.

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:07.359
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 2>If you asked the director Jim Hillcote, he tells a

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 2>much different story. I found an ama on your favorite site.

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Read it. He said that Shia did not knock out

0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Tom Hardy or has he answered the question quote, No,

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:21.799
<v Speaker 2>that's not true. But there was definitely a fight between them.

0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:24.480
<v Speaker 2>It escalated the point where they had to both be restrained.

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 2>But I was very pleased to hear it didn't go

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 2>that way because I would hate to see the outcome.

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh god right. Yeah. So lastly, we have the man

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:33.240
<v Speaker 2>who threw the hands, Shia.

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:33.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:37.359
<v Speaker 2>He tells two versions because he's like the Bob Dylan

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 2>of acting. You ain't gonna get the same story twice. So

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 2>the first version, which he told Indy Wire, was quote, yeah,

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 2>that's a bunch of We used to wrestle all the time,

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 2>and Tom Hardy is a big person, especially then he's

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 2>getting ready to play Baine. So there's more to the

0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:54.479
<v Speaker 2>story than that, because this was the first version he told.

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 2>But In the second version, there's way more detail, like

0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:59.760
<v Speaker 2>stripped down, show the world everything sort of detail. According

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 2>to he had just finished to work out at his house,

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:05.720
<v Speaker 2>on his on set house, and then Tom Hardy swings

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 2>by with his trainer from the gym and he comes

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 2>bounding into Shia's place, but Shi is already occupied. He's

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:16.359
<v Speaker 2>in bed with his girlfriend songs clothing, Tom Hardy do

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 2>not care. Tom Hardy's like, I rock with no clothing.

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, this is how Shia tells the story on

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:24.080
<v Speaker 2>the Wings and Hot Sauce Show, Hot Ones.

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:26.799
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, quote we used to.

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:29.120
<v Speaker 2>We tell each other all the time, but it just

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:31.400
<v Speaker 2>so happened that this one week, my girlfriend was in

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:33.760
<v Speaker 2>town and he runs into the room and this girl

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:36.920
<v Speaker 2>I was with at the time was terrified. She covered up,

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:40.359
<v Speaker 2>she ran into the kitchen and he picked me up

0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:43.040
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't have nothing on. So now I'm naked

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:46.760
<v Speaker 2>on his shoulder and we're in the hallway. We're wrestling around.

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:50.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm like Peanut, Peanut is filming at all, And I'm like, Peanut,

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 2>you can't be filming this shit. And then we're like wrestling.

0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 2>I got upset about it because he got the better

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 2>of me, but I'm in some like some weird twisty

0:37:58.120 --> 0:38:02.439
<v Speaker 2>naked position. We're here, Am I over here? And I'm like, oh,

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 2>dude not And he wound up engine over to the stairs.

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 2>We're like like the stairs of the balcony were he

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:11.560
<v Speaker 2>fell downstairs and he wound up hurting his back. And

0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 2>so for the rest of the shoot he told everybody

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 2>I knocked him out. That wasn't the case. We're having

0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 2>some sort of cuty wrestling match, some sort of cutie wrestling.

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 3>Match, and he was wearing a card again exactly.

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 2>So there's the story apparently told all the ways. There's

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:28.440
<v Speaker 2>the cubest version of this story.

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we have we have a crime of like

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 3>I got knocked out.

0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 2>I got knocked out by surprise and walking up by

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:36.880
<v Speaker 2>my trainer another one. I surprised him while he was

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 2>like infilegro delecto breaking entry and breaking entering, and I

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:41.839
<v Speaker 2>had Peanut filming it.

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 3>Peanut, and then Peanut, what's happening with you?

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:44.800
<v Speaker 2>Peanut?

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 3>You're making it weird, like how did you get into this?

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 3>So there you go, Elizabeth, Peanut, Why are you so

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 3>easily manipulated?

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:53.360
<v Speaker 2>Yes, maybe if if Tom Hardy was gonna jump off

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:55.719
<v Speaker 2>a bridge, Peanut, would you jump off the bridge? I

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:57.160
<v Speaker 2>don't know those film it.

0:38:57.480 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 3>If I'm hanging with Tom Hardy's like filming every I'm

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 3>gonna film, film this.

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:02.760
<v Speaker 2>I make sure to film everything.

0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:06.000
<v Speaker 3>I love that job. It's just like, hey, you know

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:08.760
<v Speaker 3>you gotta stay above ground and paid.

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 2>That's true. Those are for Hollywood interactions, Elizabeth, as much

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 2>of the truth of their supposed rivalry and fistfight as

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:20.400
<v Speaker 2>I think we're gonna learn unless Peanut releases the tapes.

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:24.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Peanut, So let's take another break and after

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.880
<v Speaker 2>these messages, we'll be back with the best of the bunch.

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:48.920
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, Elizabeth.

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:51.280
<v Speaker 2>I saved the best for last.

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 3>I did too, did you?

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:54.280
<v Speaker 2>That's where I look.

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:39:56.239 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 2>This next one takes place at the met Galla. It

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:02.439
<v Speaker 2>was a decade ago, a more innocent time. The year

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 2>was twenty fourteen yea, and this next mad scene went

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:10.440
<v Speaker 2>down in an elevator. Okay, before our last tale, is

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:13.759
<v Speaker 2>I present to you when a Beef Royale Jay Z

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:15.400
<v Speaker 2>versus Solange Knowles.

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 3>I love this so much.

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Before we dive in, you know the fullness of the story, correct,

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:23.040
<v Speaker 2>You know all the gritty and gossipy details pretty much. Well,

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 2>we'll get to the albums and related songs later, but

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 2>for now, let's start with the interested parties. As you know,

0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:30.440
<v Speaker 2>jay Z and Beyonce were married at the time and

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 2>remained married to this day. Cilange Knowles is Beyonce's younger

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 2>sister and remains her younger sister to this day. Yes,

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 2>at no point did she become her older sister.

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:40.960
<v Speaker 3>So that's pretty good achievement.

0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:42.839
<v Speaker 2>Dude, my sister passed me up. Now she's my little

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 2>big sister. I'm like, God, this is so terrible and

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm the little big brother now. As you also know,

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 2>Anna Wintour is the grand Dome of the Met Gala.

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:52.879
<v Speaker 2>She comes up with the theme for the year. It's

0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:55.839
<v Speaker 2>the guest list of stars, celebrities, glitterati, blah blah blah.

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 2>It's her party evening this evening twenty fourteen. It's a

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:03.359
<v Speaker 2>charming affair. Rihanna was there all white. Naomi Campbell was there,

0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:06.319
<v Speaker 2>also in all white. Tom Brady and Giselle Bunchin were

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:10.399
<v Speaker 2>there in matching black. Her and Ballanciaga. Yeah. The theme

0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:14.319
<v Speaker 2>for the year the Met was Charles James Courtier and

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:17.680
<v Speaker 2>for men, it was white tie. Very simple theme that year, now,

0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:20.720
<v Speaker 2>which is why David Beckham wore a white dinner jacket

0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:24.879
<v Speaker 2>tuxedo while Victoria Beckham wore matching white as The Cut

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 2>reported quote, Victoria Beckham wears dressed by Victoria Beckham. David

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:34.319
<v Speaker 2>Beckham wears shoes by Christian lebutin so but I'm sure

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 2>I was saying that wrong. Anyway, I just love Victoria

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Beckham wears dressed by Victoria Beckham.

0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 3>Following the dress It's like as if she was like

0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 3>sewing it herself workshop.

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:52.919
<v Speaker 2>Her handmade dress had of curtains, so following the dress code.

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:56.200
<v Speaker 2>Jay Z also wore a white jacket dinner coat tuxedo. Right,

0:41:56.200 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 2>so he's looking like Rick from Casa Blanca Beyonce war Javon.

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:05.399
<v Speaker 2>She with a veil like very nineteen twenties, very early thirties. Look,

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 2>you know. Anyway, things didn't get spicy at the met

0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:13.399
<v Speaker 2>gala proper. Instead, it was at the after party. There

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:16.240
<v Speaker 2>you go. That is where all the drama is lurking.

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:19.440
<v Speaker 2>At the after party. Solange apparently was already in a

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:20.399
<v Speaker 2>sour mood that night.

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:21.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't.

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:23.319
<v Speaker 2>Know if her heels were killing her after a long

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:25.239
<v Speaker 2>night or what. But from what I gleaned from the

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:29.080
<v Speaker 2>gossip sites and the subreddits, yeah, Solange was walking around

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:31.839
<v Speaker 2>in the after party with a sour face, pissed off,

0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:35.080
<v Speaker 2>and she bumps into the designer Rachel Roy Okay, I

0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:37.279
<v Speaker 2>think Rachel roy came up to her. That's kind of

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:40.279
<v Speaker 2>what I've read. Yeah, this is notable for two reasons. One,

0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Rachel roy is the ex wife of jay Z's former

0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:44.719
<v Speaker 2>business partner.

0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 3>Dame Dash Oh right, yeah yeah.

0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 2>And two, rumor has it she is Becky with the

0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:49.439
<v Speaker 2>good hair.

0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So at this point, Hello Bey.

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 2>The alleged Becky with the good hair stops Solange andols

0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:58.279
<v Speaker 2>at the party. They have some exchange. Rachel roy says

0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 2>something jacked up, something that hits. It's like vinegar and

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 2>her glass of milk, and Solange makes our face extrema

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 2>walks off, but she's not done being mad because it's provocations.

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:11.319
<v Speaker 2>But she is in fact far from being done. At

0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:13.719
<v Speaker 2>this point, Solange is like hell to the no to

0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:15.759
<v Speaker 2>this after party, right. She goes up to find her

0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:17.880
<v Speaker 2>big sister, Beyonce, so she can tell her that Rachel

0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:19.759
<v Speaker 2>Royd just had the gall to come up and get

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 2>in my face and say to me, and she tells

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 2>her we are noping out of this after party right now.

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:27.800
<v Speaker 2>My point is Solange heated right redlining. They go turbine.

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:30.399
<v Speaker 2>She finds Beyonce, I'm guessing with one look, her big

0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:32.880
<v Speaker 2>sister's like okay, and then gave her security the sign

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 2>like start exit plan B. Right. So now they are

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:38.960
<v Speaker 2>ready to pop, and Beyonce tells her security people, you

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:44.840
<v Speaker 2>know they coordinated. Jay Z is notified Beyonce and Solangenole's

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:47.440
<v Speaker 2>head for the exits together in one group, right, So

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:50.920
<v Speaker 2>she got Beyonce, jay Z, Solange security team head for

0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 2>the exits. Guided by their bodyguards, they come to an elevator.

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:56.839
<v Speaker 2>Solange is holding herself back with all of her might

0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 2>from whatever Rachel Roy just told her. She knows her

0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 2>big sister needs her to not make a scene at

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:04.840
<v Speaker 2>the met gala, both for herself but mostly for Beyonce.

0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:06.880
<v Speaker 2>But she's a sensitive soul. Elizabeth.

0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:10.479
<v Speaker 3>She's like one of those impossibly cool people, Like there's

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 3>like a handful totally where it's like she's so cool

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 3>in the sense of like so out there the original Yeah, yeah,

0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:24.680
<v Speaker 3>York's one three thousand, You're just like I can't. I don't.

0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:27.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know what atmosphere you're in, but you're.

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:28.360
<v Speaker 2>Just Lauren Hill's kind of.

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 3>There and possibly cool. Yeah, anyway, she's just so anyway.

0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:35.000
<v Speaker 2>So she's also super duper protective of her big sister.

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:38.319
<v Speaker 2>She's like a little sister extreme to the like, I'll

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 2>get violent, I will tear her faces. So anyway, at

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 2>this point, Solons and Knowles is rocking around like a

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:46.600
<v Speaker 2>bear in an airplane bathroom, right, and she can barely

0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 2>contain herself, nor can the bathroom contain her. She knows

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 2>the volume of her rage is going to get just

0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 2>like like you church cathedrals couldn't hold it once she

0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:57.600
<v Speaker 2>lets it out, no telling what will happen. She knows

0:44:57.600 --> 0:45:00.000
<v Speaker 2>this about herself. She's trying to get to that elevator.

0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:04.279
<v Speaker 2>Nobody else knows this. The elevator arrives right, doors open.

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Solange is the first to step into this tiny box right.

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:09.759
<v Speaker 2>She's holding a clutch purse. Jay Z follows her, and

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:12.440
<v Speaker 2>then Beyonce's trailing after. Jay Z security like one of

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:16.759
<v Speaker 2>their primary large bodied bodyguards. He steps into there and

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:18.680
<v Speaker 2>he's hold the door for Beyonce, so he's got his

0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:21.040
<v Speaker 2>back to the inside of the elevator. He's looking out

0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:25.240
<v Speaker 2>watching her approach. And now this is a small hotel elevator,

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:28.280
<v Speaker 2>it's not like a big thing. And the doors close

0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:31.960
<v Speaker 2>once Beyonce steps in. Now no one can see them

0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:34.480
<v Speaker 2>right when Beyonce is about to step in, But just

0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:39.960
<v Speaker 2>before the doors close, Solange can't help herself and starts

0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:43.120
<v Speaker 2>getting in jay Z's face. So people see the beginnings

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 2>of a scene, and then the door's closed. Ultimate mystery.

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 2>But once there's no longer any worries of making a scene,

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:53.479
<v Speaker 2>Now Solange is able to let it out in order

0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 2>to tell you what happens when Solange goes boom. Elizabeth,

0:45:56.719 --> 0:45:59.799
<v Speaker 2>I need you to close your eyes and I'd like

0:45:59.880 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 2>you to a picture. It's been a long night for you, Elizabeth.

0:46:06.800 --> 0:46:09.799
<v Speaker 2>Three weeks ago you were in Indio, California, there for

0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:12.640
<v Speaker 2>a surprise performance by your boss, Beyonce at her sister

0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 2>Solange's headliners said at Coachella, that was no fun for you.

0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 2>The backstage was barely secure. Seemed like anyone everyone in

0:46:19.840 --> 0:46:23.320
<v Speaker 2>their dog walker could get a pass backstage. Keeping Beyonce

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 2>safe from the nutters is a full time job. But

0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:28.239
<v Speaker 2>when you're adding close exposure to folks at a place

0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:31.200
<v Speaker 2>like Coachella. It's like you're a secret service for the President,

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:35.239
<v Speaker 2>only more important because you're protecting Beyonce. Now tonight, the

0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:37.279
<v Speaker 2>gig has been a stranger. New York is always a

0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 2>challenge for bodyguards. There's so much having to go down

0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:43.319
<v Speaker 2>to the street to leave, unlike say La, where it's

0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:47.200
<v Speaker 2>a car built culture and the resulting parking lots built

0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:50.320
<v Speaker 2>underneath the buildings provide far less exposure for the stars.

0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 2>The ins and outs are much easier from a security perspective,

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:56.759
<v Speaker 2>which has been a little easier than say Coachella. That's

0:46:56.760 --> 0:47:00.720
<v Speaker 2>because an a Whim Tour runs a tight shit along

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:03.440
<v Speaker 2>with her husband Jay Z, as well as her sister Solange,

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:06.080
<v Speaker 2>are in Manhattan to hit on a Win Tour's annual

0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 2>fashion mega event and met gala. You knew that meant

0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:12.840
<v Speaker 2>a long night for you and your sore dogs. It

0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 2>has been exactly that. Now your fallen arches are aching.

0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:18.799
<v Speaker 2>You cannot wait to get home and take off these

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:21.680
<v Speaker 2>brand new dress shoes. But the first you have to

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:24.279
<v Speaker 2>endure this afterparty. That's where you are now at the

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Standard hotel. Thankfully, Beyonce has just given you the signal

0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:29.840
<v Speaker 2>to clear an exit path. You and your team do

0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 2>exactly that, crisp clear, just as you practice. Now she's

0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:35.840
<v Speaker 2>stepping into the elevator, following her husband, Jay Z and

0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:38.360
<v Speaker 2>her sister Solange. You hold the door open for Beyonce,

0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:40.839
<v Speaker 2>just like you practice. Your head has turned so you

0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:44.560
<v Speaker 2>don't exactly see how it starts. You just hear it.

0:47:45.160 --> 0:47:48.839
<v Speaker 2>Before the elevator doors can fully closed, Solange must spin

0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:51.640
<v Speaker 2>around on her heels, and she gets in Jay's face,

0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:54.800
<v Speaker 2>and she hear her ask is it true? Is it true?

0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:57.480
<v Speaker 2>He has no idea what she's talking about her, So

0:47:57.560 --> 0:48:00.799
<v Speaker 2>it seems because Jass, is what true? You heard me?

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:00.960
<v Speaker 1>You?

0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Troy Aikman looking sob this is a problem for you. You

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:07.759
<v Speaker 2>know what Beyonce would want you to do, So you

0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:11.240
<v Speaker 2>do that. You start furiously tapping the closed door button.

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:14.520
<v Speaker 2>The doors do not react quickly enough because Solange has

0:48:14.560 --> 0:48:18.960
<v Speaker 2>gone full mask off. She's dropped any pretense at proper behavior.

0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:22.120
<v Speaker 2>She gets right in her brother in law's face and yells,

0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:25.840
<v Speaker 2>spittle hitting his face. Did you do it? Jay's like,

0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:26.799
<v Speaker 2>do what?

0:48:28.040 --> 0:48:28.400
<v Speaker 5>You know?

0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:31.640
<v Speaker 2>What you hear Solange say? As you turn back, finally,

0:48:31.680 --> 0:48:35.239
<v Speaker 2>still hoping these damn elevator doors will close. Solange ain't

0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:38.000
<v Speaker 2>waiting for anything. She throws a right She tries to

0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:41.160
<v Speaker 2>hit jay Z in the face with her tasteful beaded clutch,

0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:43.840
<v Speaker 2>but Jay is too street to get caught sleeping like that.

0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:46.000
<v Speaker 2>He's also quick to raise a hand and block it,

0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 2>so Solange pulls back for a second blow. The elevator

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:52.040
<v Speaker 2>doors are just about to close. Tay blocks it again.

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:54.840
<v Speaker 2>The doors closed, Solange ain't done. She pulls back, and

0:48:54.920 --> 0:48:57.520
<v Speaker 2>this time Jay isn't quick enough to block it. Her

0:48:57.640 --> 0:49:01.399
<v Speaker 2>right hand connects with his famous face. Meanwhile, you don't

0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:03.480
<v Speaker 2>know what to do. It's hold so wrong, so fast,

0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:06.480
<v Speaker 2>you never expect the threat to come from inside the family.

0:49:07.040 --> 0:49:09.640
<v Speaker 2>After a moment of hesitation, you reach around and surround

0:49:09.719 --> 0:49:11.560
<v Speaker 2>the lounge with your arms, and you hold her back

0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:15.160
<v Speaker 2>from going full Muhammed Ali on Hove's face. But she's

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:17.920
<v Speaker 2>still not done, and she's got two other limbs you

0:49:17.960 --> 0:49:21.320
<v Speaker 2>have not restrained, so she uses those limbs. You feel

0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:24.520
<v Speaker 2>her squirm as she sets up, and then Kiah, she

0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:27.880
<v Speaker 2>kicks jay Z. He catches her foot. She kicks them again.

0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:30.680
<v Speaker 2>You realize you're gonna need to fully separate them, so

0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:33.520
<v Speaker 2>you pull the lune back further. She senses it, and

0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:36.080
<v Speaker 2>she takes another swipe at jay Z with her right

0:49:36.200 --> 0:49:39.959
<v Speaker 2>foot before she's out of range. She misses. You are impressed.

0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:44.440
<v Speaker 2>Her commitment to hurting him is remarkable. You elbow the

0:49:44.440 --> 0:49:48.120
<v Speaker 2>emergency stop button and pause the elevator between the floor

0:49:48.200 --> 0:49:51.040
<v Speaker 2>somewhere between the twelve, eleventh and twelfth floors. You hope

0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:53.480
<v Speaker 2>that your quick thinking will keep this fight from becoming

0:49:53.520 --> 0:49:56.319
<v Speaker 2>headline news tomorrow. And then you look up and you

0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:59.759
<v Speaker 2>see it the surveillance camera in the corner of the elevator.

0:50:00.360 --> 0:50:03.040
<v Speaker 2>You sigh to yourself, so much for your quick thinking.

0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:10.120
<v Speaker 2>They're a professional now. What you don't realize at the

0:50:10.120 --> 0:50:11.879
<v Speaker 2>time is that you just witness an event that will

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:14.719
<v Speaker 2>lead to not one, but two albums, not one but

0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:17.840
<v Speaker 2>two tours, as well as the incredible visual album Lemonade

0:50:17.880 --> 0:50:21.719
<v Speaker 2>that establishes Beyonce as the pre eminent multi media artist

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:25.080
<v Speaker 2>or her generation. That's all it comes for. Now, they

0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:27.359
<v Speaker 2>need to get out of this building without making more

0:50:27.360 --> 0:50:30.600
<v Speaker 2>of a scene. It's decided that while the three exit

0:50:30.640 --> 0:50:33.719
<v Speaker 2>the met Gala after party together, the husband and wife

0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:36.759
<v Speaker 2>do not leave together in the same car. Beyonce and

0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Solange are escorted to one car. Security takes jay Z

0:50:41.239 --> 0:50:44.360
<v Speaker 2>to a different car. Oh yeah, I read everything I

0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:46.800
<v Speaker 2>could find on this one. At this point, what it

0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:49.640
<v Speaker 2>happened was Rachel Roy alleged to be the woman that

0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:53.160
<v Speaker 2>jay Z slept with, cheating on his wife Beyonce. She

0:50:53.280 --> 0:50:56.560
<v Speaker 2>came up to Beyonce's sister and said in her face

0:50:56.640 --> 0:50:59.239
<v Speaker 2>that she essentially was the one, and like, maybe I'm

0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:01.480
<v Speaker 2>going to be You're gonna be the ex sister in

0:51:01.560 --> 0:51:04.520
<v Speaker 2>law or something to this effect, intimating that jay Z

0:51:04.680 --> 0:51:06.960
<v Speaker 2>and her had known each other in the biblical sense

0:51:07.320 --> 0:51:09.439
<v Speaker 2>clan did not let her finish all of her thought

0:51:09.480 --> 0:51:12.480
<v Speaker 2>before she told her where she should go. It's spun around, right,

0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:16.000
<v Speaker 2>So this provokes Solange and then she immediately confronts jay

0:51:16.080 --> 0:51:18.800
<v Speaker 2>Z is this true, which then leads to the squabble

0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:22.480
<v Speaker 2>up because he denies it and she knows he's lying. Next,

0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Beyonce and jay Z then have a convo about his

0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:30.280
<v Speaker 2>alleged infidelity. Jay Z's first impulse is to lie, right,

0:51:30.360 --> 0:51:33.240
<v Speaker 2>he denies it. Yeah, he does that for a while,

0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:36.239
<v Speaker 2>but lying to Beyonce ain't easy. No, the truth is

0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:37.719
<v Speaker 2>gonna come out, is it?

0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:38.080
<v Speaker 5>Did?

0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Jay Z admits he did, in fact have an affair.

0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Beyonce is shot heartbroken. She's faced with a difficult decision.

0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:48.759
<v Speaker 2>Can she forgive his Troy Aikmanflikan face and or does

0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:51.240
<v Speaker 2>she even want to fight for her marriage? She answers

0:51:51.320 --> 0:51:53.480
<v Speaker 2>those two questions and others, and it leads to the

0:51:53.520 --> 0:51:55.920
<v Speaker 2>greatest work of art of the twenty first century, her

0:51:56.040 --> 0:51:58.719
<v Speaker 2>visual album Lemonade. I know you love it as much

0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:00.880
<v Speaker 2>as I do, prisked more than I do. I don't know, so,

0:52:00.920 --> 0:52:02.960
<v Speaker 2>but I got to ask, what's your favorite track or

0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:05.640
<v Speaker 2>video or lyric or turn a phrase anything from Lemonade

0:52:05.680 --> 0:52:06.600
<v Speaker 2>that just jumps to mind.

0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:10.719
<v Speaker 3>It's the whole thing. It's it is so genius. Yes,

0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:15.760
<v Speaker 3>it's a beautiful, genius album. But the visual it's.

0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:19.400
<v Speaker 2>The New Orleans stuff like the cock car and then

0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:21.560
<v Speaker 2>the little boy in front of and so everything, the

0:52:21.560 --> 0:52:23.600
<v Speaker 2>big hat and the nodding. I mean, like the moment

0:52:23.760 --> 0:52:26.080
<v Speaker 2>so z he you know, at this point, you know

0:52:26.200 --> 0:52:29.800
<v Speaker 2>he knows he's wrong. Everybody knows he's wrong. Becauade.

0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:33.200
<v Speaker 3>It's such a great journey to the narrative of it.

0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:35.040
<v Speaker 2>It's a master work. I mean it literally is a

0:52:35.040 --> 0:52:38.720
<v Speaker 2>master work. And she like talks about like her decision

0:52:38.800 --> 0:52:41.759
<v Speaker 2>to forgive and her restoration of herself and like like

0:52:42.160 --> 0:52:45.160
<v Speaker 2>she has to like be honest with herself and like,

0:52:45.239 --> 0:52:47.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, her dream is gone, her fantasies are gone,

0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:49.440
<v Speaker 2>her illusions are gone. Now she has to be you know,

0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:50.279
<v Speaker 2>real with her love.

0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:50.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:52:51.280 --> 0:52:54.000
<v Speaker 2>So after all this and all the claim and and

0:52:54.040 --> 0:52:57.319
<v Speaker 2>love she gets for what Lemonade is, jay Z goes

0:52:57.360 --> 0:52:58.839
<v Speaker 2>to the lab with pen and a pad and then

0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:00.839
<v Speaker 2>he starts scratching out layer. He comes back with his

0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:02.160
<v Speaker 2>album four forty four.

0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:05.440
<v Speaker 3>Which is a fantastic out also very good album. Right,

0:53:05.480 --> 0:53:07.480
<v Speaker 3>it's also like notes from My Therapy.

0:53:08.120 --> 0:53:11.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, he's got that one song Killed jay Z. Yes,

0:53:11.440 --> 0:53:15.160
<v Speaker 2>what a great title. He essentially admits his infidelity in that,

0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:19.279
<v Speaker 2>and he tried to make Beyonce believe him over her sister. Yeah,

0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:21.719
<v Speaker 2>and how both of those acts were very wrong, both

0:53:21.760 --> 0:53:23.440
<v Speaker 2>trying belonging to her and trying to split her from

0:53:23.440 --> 0:53:26.600
<v Speaker 2>her sister. Essentially, yes, or as he rhymed it, you

0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:29.560
<v Speaker 2>egg Selange on no one all along all you had

0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:33.000
<v Speaker 2>to say I was wrong in case that was too subtle.

0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:35.520
<v Speaker 2>He also had another song on the album called I

0:53:35.600 --> 0:53:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Apologize Often Woman Eyed. I don't deserve you.

0:53:40.480 --> 0:53:40.680
<v Speaker 3>There.

0:53:40.800 --> 0:53:43.000
<v Speaker 2>But you know, in that moment, you don't be subtle,

0:53:43.040 --> 0:53:45.439
<v Speaker 2>like write your message in the sky, write a song

0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:46.920
<v Speaker 2>and record a whole album about it.

0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:47.480
<v Speaker 3>You want to.

0:53:47.440 --> 0:53:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Hold on to Beyonce once again, he's able to keep

0:53:50.200 --> 0:53:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Beyonce from leaving him. And because of his infidelity. And

0:53:53.080 --> 0:53:55.160
<v Speaker 2>in the end, it wasn't jay Z versus Salange, it

0:53:55.200 --> 0:53:58.400
<v Speaker 2>was jay Z versus jay Z. Yeah, he was the

0:53:58.520 --> 0:53:59.919
<v Speaker 2>rival he made along the way.

0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:04.120
<v Speaker 3>As for Beyonce, what if he would have pressed charges

0:54:04.160 --> 0:54:05.000
<v Speaker 3>against her.

0:54:07.960 --> 0:54:11.279
<v Speaker 2>Fun, Yeah, totally that would have been really like the

0:54:11.719 --> 0:54:13.280
<v Speaker 2>whole legal assault on her.

0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:13.920
<v Speaker 5>Now.

0:54:13.960 --> 0:54:16.440
<v Speaker 2>As for Beyonce, Lemonade is considered, as I said, we

0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:18.520
<v Speaker 2>both said, no Bs one of the greatest works of

0:54:18.640 --> 0:54:21.720
<v Speaker 2>art of the modern era and I'm not I'm not kidding.

0:54:21.760 --> 0:54:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Rolling Stone ranked the best album of this century. Yeah,

0:54:25.000 --> 0:54:27.000
<v Speaker 2>and the thirty second album of all time of all

0:54:27.000 --> 0:54:29.880
<v Speaker 2>the albums ever recorded. The album won Grammys, that won

0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:33.799
<v Speaker 2>MTV Video Music Awards, it won a Peabody Award. Yeah, right,

0:54:33.880 --> 0:54:36.680
<v Speaker 2>all because so Launch stayed true and because jay Z

0:54:37.200 --> 0:54:40.400
<v Speaker 2>tried to lie but had to come clean. And Beyonce

0:54:40.640 --> 0:54:43.200
<v Speaker 2>how she turned her pain and grief and confusion and

0:54:43.239 --> 0:54:46.320
<v Speaker 2>her restoration into art. That's why we call her the Queen.

0:54:47.360 --> 0:54:49.279
<v Speaker 2>So there you go. And also she still wasn't done

0:54:49.320 --> 0:54:52.000
<v Speaker 2>because in case Jay Z or anyone else needed a reminder.

0:54:52.080 --> 0:54:55.000
<v Speaker 2>On her song Cozy off of her album Renaissance, Beyonce

0:54:55.120 --> 0:54:58.760
<v Speaker 2>sag the lyrics confident. Damn. She lethal might have suggest

0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:03.040
<v Speaker 2>you don't with my ci because she comfortable. And that's

0:55:03.080 --> 0:55:05.360
<v Speaker 2>where we leave this one, Elizabeth, it's Beyonce getting the

0:55:05.440 --> 0:55:08.360
<v Speaker 2>last word. I got to ask you, what's a ridiculous

0:55:08.360 --> 0:55:08.960
<v Speaker 2>take away here?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness. You know, these the egos involved are

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<v Speaker 3>so severe, you know, like I think that's none of

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<v Speaker 3>them are able to kind of let go of the ego.

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<v Speaker 3>Even Richard gear Mister.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I never believed that Buddhist stuff. Nothing about

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<v Speaker 2>what he does seems very Buddhist, hanging out with the

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<v Speaker 2>Dalai Lama, No.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, but you know, I just I'm still really hung

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<v Speaker 3>up on sliced alone, thinking he had a chance with princess.

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<v Speaker 2>Princess, like you like, it's ridiculous. You know, I once

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<v Speaker 2>met him. That's why my my my spot on accurate accents,

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, wearon was did you guys get sta loan

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<v Speaker 2>for this. Well, it's because I met him.

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<v Speaker 3>So I met him too.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you like when you actually I met his kid?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was like thirteen, and she's you know where,

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<v Speaker 3>We're on the ski lift in Park City, Utah. Nice

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<v Speaker 3>And I sat next to him and then stallone not

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<v Speaker 3>almost knocked my brother over coming down the.

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<v Speaker 2>Very that's very stallone the hill.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to talk paint in colors with him for

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<v Speaker 2>an hour walking around and he was just inventing colors.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, I think this room should be a we

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<v Speaker 2>were we were painting his office for his production and

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<v Speaker 2>I was in my house painting days. Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, anyway, profile I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, just name dropping over here. So yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 2>there's more to that story, but I will not tell it.

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<v Speaker 3>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>You in the moon for a talkback? Yes, you can

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<v Speaker 2>wash away please? Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>I went get hey, guys. I was just listening to

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<v Speaker 3>the saga of Chewy the Mespipe Raccoon, and Elizabeth had

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned that maybe they'll make a movie about a raccoon

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<v Speaker 3>like Cocaine Bear.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>They actually did. It's in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 3>It was called Crack Coon, And I tried looking up

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<v Speaker 3>IMDb notes about it. There was not much there, sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>but I thought that that was ridiculous and you guys

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<v Speaker 3>could totally go check it out if you need something

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<v Speaker 3>to do. That is one ridiculous krackcoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that is because those little trash pandas deserve that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of treatment.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, thank you for that. Yes well.

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