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Speaker 1: Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio E.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth.

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Speaker 3: That's me.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, look at you, I know, look at me.

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Speaker 2: Got a question for you? Do you yeah? I do?

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Speaker 2: You want to know what it is? Do you know

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Speaker 2: what ridiculous?

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Speaker 3: I do know it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: That's not my question. Now my question. Did you know

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Speaker 2: it's ridiculous?

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Speaker 3: I do know it's ridiculous, and I have I have

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Speaker 3: a quick question for you. What's the best wedding you

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Speaker 3: ever went to?

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Speaker 2: Best wedding I ever went to? Okay, this is like

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Speaker 2: a trick question, like other than your own, right, that's like,

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Speaker 2: that's the thing wedding? Okay, I went to one in

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Speaker 2: a church in Carmel that was really cool. It was

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Speaker 2: the Mission Carmel Church and was cool.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what was the reception?

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Speaker 2: Like? I kin was young? I cut out. I was

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Speaker 2: like I don't want to, I don't want it. It

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Speaker 2: was like it was nice.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like it was super nice.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I was like, I'm out of here. Deuces?

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Speaker 3: Did they have did they serve chicken tenders there?

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Speaker 2: I do not believe they did, Elizabeth. I left before

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Speaker 2: all of the dinner courses were served. But I do

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Speaker 2: not think there's chicken.

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Speaker 3: I think a good wedding should just be like a

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Speaker 3: good party. Yes, I like that, like a wedding reception

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Speaker 3: should it be?

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Speaker 2: The weddings usually an indication of the marriage. And so

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Speaker 2: this couple big show did not last.

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Speaker 3: You're right, it is. It is an indication. And I

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Speaker 3: think it's you got to do what's you You gotta

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Speaker 3: be genuine and so you know, you got to throw

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Speaker 3: a good party for reception. And July twenty first five

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Speaker 3: special day. Okay, it's National Chicken Tender Day. And I'm

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Speaker 3: going to guess there are a lot of couples out

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Speaker 3: there who are like, honey.

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Speaker 2: Are you being paid for this?

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Speaker 3: Stop it? We got to get married on a special day,

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Speaker 3: like what's some day with a lot of meaning for us?

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Speaker 3: National Chicken Tender Day?

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Speaker 2: Of course, Chicken tendys tends.

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Speaker 3: And so you think about, okay, where should we get married?

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Speaker 3: That's the other question. All right, we know the date

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Speaker 3: Chicken Nash Chicken t first. How about big racle.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's good to be hot?

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Speaker 3: Vegas is yeah, exactly, July Vegas. So July twenty first, Vegas,

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Speaker 3: and you're gonna like Okay, let's go to the iconic

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Speaker 3: Viva Las Vegas Wedding Chapel.

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Speaker 2: Why not. It sounds like there's some kind of Elvis angle.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 3: And then the big like it's really important, like who's

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Speaker 3: your officiant?

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Speaker 2: Oh right is maker?

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Speaker 3: Break right?

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Speaker 4: There?

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Speaker 3: You got a good efficiant that's solid.

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Speaker 2: It's the captain of the of the wedding.

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Speaker 3: Yes, what about this? There's this guy, Manny Mayo, mister Mayo,

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Speaker 3: Manny Mayo. He's like the perfect one. You know why,

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Speaker 3: because Manny Mayo is the Hellman's Mayonnaise mascot. I'm showing

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Speaker 3: you this picture right.

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Speaker 2: Now that looks scary.

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Speaker 3: This is the whole thing basically. Okay, So Hellman's Mayonnaise

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Speaker 3: Sin City Wedding giveaway, so you can enter to win

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Speaker 3: to get married on National Chicken Tender Day because they're

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Speaker 3: promoting their new Chicken Tender dipline. Oh god, we so

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Speaker 3: many people sent this to us like this has just

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Speaker 3: had like alarms going off and they picked up the

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Speaker 3: Elizabeth batphone. Yeah. So you can get married in the

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Speaker 3: Viva Las Vegas Wedding Chapel. It's officiated by Manny Mayo.

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Speaker 3: The reception features a chicken tender tower and all these

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Speaker 3: chicken tender dips, a professional photographer, and then a five

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars stipend to cover travel costs. So that says

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Speaker 3: entrance must be twenty one years or older and must

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Speaker 3: be engaged or in a series relationship ready to tie

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Speaker 3: it off. So you can't just grab a buddy and

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Speaker 3: be like, listen this, we're doing this. You have until

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Speaker 3: June twentieth to enter. So anyway, yeah, anyone out there

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Speaker 3: who wants to get married by a jar mayo.

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Speaker 2: That's the standing offer there.

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Speaker 3: It is this summer boom done and who there?

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Speaker 5: It is?

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Speaker 3: Then you know what that's that is?

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Speaker 2: Ps. Why you know they replaced the name for chicken

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Speaker 2: tenders like in my lifetime because at one point they

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Speaker 2: were often referred to as chicken fingers. Yeah, chicken fingers,

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Speaker 2: which is one of the worst names for food you

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Speaker 2: could ever think of, chicken fingers. It's one, chickens don't

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Speaker 2: have fingers, and then two, why would you want to

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Speaker 2: need a chicken You ever see fingers?

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Speaker 3: Chicken feet? Like in the supermarket they call them chicken paws?

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Speaker 2: Do they I've only ever seen them like in China Town.

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Speaker 2: So they don't have it in English.

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Speaker 3: You don't go to Walmart enough, my friend.

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Speaker 5: No, I do not.

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Speaker 2: They won't let me not after they lost time.

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Speaker 3: I'm a connoisseur. I can tell you, like what's a

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Speaker 3: good Walmart and what's like a.

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Speaker 2: Subpart that's your time in the South.

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Speaker 3: I did. I did my time, and now I'm an expert.

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Speaker 3: Now you know American Canyon a really.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll keep that. Let me take a note American Canyon.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to ever get married by a Mayo?

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Speaker 3: Jar tried it in the Walmart parking lot? American came here.

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Speaker 2: There's space plenty of parking. Frank Rbs, I got a

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Speaker 2: fun one for you today. It's like a lazy Susan

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Speaker 2: of crime. Yeah, you gave it a spin and to

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Speaker 2: see what's on offer. When the spinning wheel stops. Celebrity

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Speaker 2: beefs that lead to catching hands. Oh yeah, well it's

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Speaker 2: not what you think because it's like sliced alone and

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Speaker 2: Princess Die. They fought Steven Seagal versus pants, rotier gear,

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Speaker 2: rootier gear, catching an elbow to the face and everyone's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I get it. Shaia wants to fight Tom hardy. Oh,

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Speaker 2: that's like the old. Lastly, there's that one famous beef

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Speaker 2: that led to the greatest art of the twenty first century. Ready,

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Speaker 2: I am daddy, Let's go. This is Ridiculous Crime a podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm at absurd and outrageous capers, heists and cons. It's

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Speaker 2: always ninety nine percent murder free and it's one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent ridiculous. Jeez oh, Elizabeth, where is the beef? The

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Speaker 2: celebrity beef? I've got it here. Why are they so

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Speaker 2: fun and always so ridiculous? Do you have any favorite

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Speaker 2: celebrity beefs? Ever? Like you know, I'll give you a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I need a lot of moments.

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Speaker 2: Eddie van Halen versus Fred Durst of Limp Biscuit.

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Speaker 3: That's a good one. Didn't that involve like a tank?

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Speaker 2: He drove. Eddie van Halen drove a tank across Los

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Speaker 2: Fred Durst. That's the level of celebrity beef that I

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't really. You know, fifty beefs with

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's usually right.

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Speaker 3: He's like dicey and real in his own life. Yes, sure,

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Speaker 3: aren't we all aren't we? We're all problematic in one

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Speaker 2: Vitamin water, money, just f around and find out.

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Speaker 3: But I like how he'll just start, He'll just start something. Well,

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Speaker 3: I mean, then you know my favorite beef.

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Speaker 2: What's your favorite beef?

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Speaker 3: Kendrick lamar Oh and Aubrey and Aubrey. That that's what

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Speaker 3: I thought.

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Speaker 2: I thought you were going to go right to though.

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Speaker 3: Do you when those when they were dropping the songs,

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Speaker 2: You would text me like within minutes it.

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Speaker 3: Would come out and you'd have to like listen and listen,

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Speaker 3: and you're just like I would. My jaw would drop.

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Speaker 2: The poetry levels are incredible, like the layers upon layers.

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Speaker 2: And then the man deserves his pulitz.

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Speaker 3: He's a genius.

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Speaker 2: So today I've got tales of celebrity beefs that obviously

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Speaker 2: border on the criminal, because that's what we do. We

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Speaker 2: got fistfights, elbows, the face, heated battles.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: My favorite, though, is Steven Sagall versus Pants. So let's

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Speaker 2: start with dessert. Elizabeth, do you know that Stephen Sagall

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Speaker 2: was once humbled and the most fantastic way possible.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 2: Before I tell you that story, we need to cover

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Speaker 2: a little backstory. We've discussed Steven Sagall before. How could

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Speaker 2: I told you that one time, how he was involved

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Speaker 2: into a whole debacle. Well, I got at least two

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Speaker 2: other Stephen Sagall debacles for you today. Now, Steven Sagall

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Speaker 2: Steven Sagal, But this story requires just a little history. Elizabeth,

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Speaker 2: I want you to now meet our fighters. Okay, First

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Speaker 2: we have John Leguizamo. He's fun, right him now. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: movie called Executive Decision. You're familiar with this film?

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Speaker 3: Vague It sounds vaguely familiar.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a vague film and it came out in

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six. As you can probably tell by the title,

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Speaker 2: it was a largely forgettable nineties action thriller. In fact,

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Speaker 2: it was a product of super producer Joel Silver, the

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Speaker 2: some of our favorites. There's Law and Orders bead.

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Speaker 3: Wong I Love I Know.

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Speaker 2: Stabas Sergeant Louis Young US Army Special Forces. And there's

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Speaker 2: Joe Morton ak Eli Pope from Scandal. He plays First

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Speaker 2: Sergeant Campbell Cappie Matheny this Army Special Forces. There's also

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Speaker 2: Halle Berry as Jean the flight attendant, Poor Hallie. And

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Speaker 2: the big star was Kurt Russell as doctor David Grant,

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Speaker 2: Steven Sagall as Lieutenant Colonel Austin Travis.

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Speaker 3: He's all Texas, Texas.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you caught that. Now you can tell by

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Speaker 2: his name. He's a cowboy who's a loose cannon bit

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Speaker 2: this a mix of a young actor named John Leguizamo

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Speaker 2: as Captain Carlos ak Rat Lopez, Oh boy tough right,

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Speaker 2: also the nineties right, also from the US Army Special Forces.

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Speaker 2: Now the plot doesn't matter, it really does not, But

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Speaker 2: there's nerve gas on a plane that terrors planned to

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Speaker 2: detonate over Washington, d C. When that happened, right, and

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Speaker 2: there's only one man who can save the world, Steven Segal,

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth in the name of journalism. I didn't watch the movie,

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Speaker 2: but I did watch the trailer, and it featured great lines,

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Speaker 2: like in an age when terrorism knows no boundaries and

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Speaker 2: the level of threat knows no limit.

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Speaker 3: Wait, this is ninety six. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Cut to Kurt Russell saying to the President, Sir, I

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Speaker 2: don't think this is about hostages, Elizabeth. It was not

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Speaker 2: about hostages. No, it was about nerve gas. It was

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Speaker 2: a passenger plane carrying a load of hijack nerve gas.

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Speaker 2: It's basically a flying mass destruction device before nine to eleven.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but luckily this is triggering.

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Speaker 2: Back to the narrative when global response is routine and

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Speaker 2: advanced technology can accomplish miracles, a life or death decision

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Speaker 2: for hundreds of hostages in a plane or forty million

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Speaker 3: Wall right on it.

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Speaker 3: Is he like a Russian citizen.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, completely very loose. He's he's all about

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Speaker 2: the flow, Elizabeth. Yeah. Now as our fighters step inside

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Speaker 2: Steven sagall is not known for his panther leg quickness,

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Speaker 2: so expect a lumbering presence from him today. Now, John Leguizamo,

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Speaker 2: Here's Segall's response. His hand shoots forward. Oh he makes contact.

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Speaker 2: No, no, this is I'm just describing. If this is the

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Speaker 2: The actor looks up and says, so I started laughing,

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Speaker 2: he says, Well, there's this guy named Jean LaBelle. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Coincidentally, Steven Sagal is all of those. So Steven Sagal

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Speaker 3: He you know what, I'd be like, let me give

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Speaker 2: mean by that? Exactly? The guy presses him. La Bell

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00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 2: goes well, if a guy soils himself, you can't criticize.

435
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 2: And because if they just had a nice big dinner

436
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 2: an hour before, you might just have a tendency to

437
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 2: do that. So he basically can you know, it confirms

438
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 2: that he made him crap out.

439
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you filled his palazzo pants now.

440
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 2: Also, right before he finishes his story, he says, at

441
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,159
Speaker 2: one point, you know, he's talking about like why he

442
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 2: doesn't tell the story and like why Steven Stigall shouldn't

443
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 2: talk so much, and he uses his pure dojo wisdom.

444
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 2: He's like, closed mouth, don't catch any foot. Oh, I'm

445
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 2: adding that to the mantra for Burnett. Hey Burnett, remember

446
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 2: closed mouth, don't catch any foot. Anyway, on that note,

447
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 2: let me close my mouth. We'll take or break, listen

448
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 2: to some ads, chill out, and be back in.

449
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 5: Two and too.

450
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 2: Hey Elizabeth, we're back. You ready for round two of

451
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 2: celebrity beefs?

452
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 3: I sure am now for.

453
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 2: This next one. I have an equally strange pairing of

454
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 2: in this case men, both egotists. One is a lover

455
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 2: not a fighter, a reported pacifist, a Buddhist and the

456
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 2: Dali Lama's best buddy in Hollywood. Yeah, there is Sevester Saloon.

457
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 2: So any guesses on who the other stars in this

458
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 2: The next Fighter are undercard?

459
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,400
Speaker 3: Who's the tolly Lama pal? Richard Gear?

460
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 2: Yes, the next Fighting or cards a wild one producer?

461
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 5: Do you?

462
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 4: In this corner we have the American Jiggelow himself the

463
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 4: officer or was he the gentleman who knows the john

464
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 4: though to her pretty woman, mister Richard Gear. And in

465
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 4: this corner, Elizabeth, we have the Italian stallion Tango.

466
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 2: Was he Cash?

467
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 4: He's the brother of Frank. He's the one with the

468
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 4: first blood energy, the man who has a knife named

469
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 4: after his character Rambo. That's right, Rocky Balbo himself.

470
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 2: Now, if you can believe it now that we got

471
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 2: these two guys into our metaphysical ring, Yes, they get

472
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 2: into it right. But before they were famous, oh before

473
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 2: they were matinee idols. Back when they were both young

474
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 2: up and comers looking for their big break, trying to

475
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 2: catch time on film. They were both in a film

476
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 2: called The Lords of Flatbush. Oh yeah, you know that

477
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy four films set in nineteen fifty eight Brooklyn.

478
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 2: It's a story about a group of black leather clad

479
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 2: greasers with their slick back hair. One of them is Fonsie,

480
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 2: but he's playing different character. Hey, wrinklers in it. Richard

481
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 2: Gear and Sylvester Sloan are in it, But that all

482
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 2: changed because of the story I'm about to tell you,

483
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 2: because Richard Gear was not in it when the film

484
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: was done. The story goes on the set of Lords

485
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 2: of Flatbush. Stallone used to clock Richard Gear doing his

486
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 2: best like cock of the walk parade around the set

487
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 2: and it bothered Stallone. Right, he had like a real

488
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 2: inferiority complex when he was a young man, and it

489
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 2: just he just triggered it hit all the buttons, like

490
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 2: just put his hands on the keyboard of Stallone. So

491
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: Richard Gear, he knew he was a pretty boy with

492
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 2: good hair, and he acted like it. And so Stloone

493
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 2: burns with envy. So I found Stallone's versions of this story.

494
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: So Stallone was once he did at Ama on the

495
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 2: old fan site. Ain't it cool news?

496
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah?

497
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 2: And I found that he tells the story of how

498
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: he has his beef with Richard Gear began and now

499
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 2: take it away, Sylvester Stallone. He would stride around his

500
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 2: oversized motorcycle jacket like. He was the baddest night at

501
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: the round table. One day, during an improv, he grabbed

502
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 2: me simulate the fight scene. Guys look carried away. I

503
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 2: told him that Joe fashioned lighting up, but he was

504
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 2: completely in character, impossible to deal with. So this is

505
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 2: the beginning. They're already budding, had young actors, right, but

506
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 2: you have to understand they're on a film together, so

507
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: they were guaranteed way more interactions when they weren't on

508
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: in front of the camera. Then came the Coney Island incident.

509
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: That's what I'm calling it, Island incident. Back to stallone

510
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 2: and his ain't a cool news reporting on his own past.

511
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 2: We were rehearsing Coney Island and it was lunch time,

512
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 2: and so we decided to take a break. And the

513
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: only place that was warm was in the back seat

514
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 2: of a Toyota. I was eating the hot dog and

515
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 2: he climbs in with half a chicken and covered in mustard,

516
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: with grease nearly dripping out of an aluminum wrapper.

517
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 3: Wait, he got a half chicken.

518
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 2: Yes, Richard Gear climbs into the back of a Toyota

519
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 2: with half of a chicken covered in mustard. I thought

520
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: you would now already seen it. In the back of

521
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 2: that same Toyota slide, Stalone is eating like what I'm

522
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 2: imagining is a Nathan's famous hot dog. So with that

523
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 2: imagewelling mind, back to Stallone's story and Richard Gear and

524
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 2: his greasy mustard coated half a chicken. I said, that

525
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: thing is gonna drip all over the place, and he said, yeah,

526
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: I don't worry about it. I said, if it gets

527
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 2: on my pant, you're gonna know about it. He proceeds

528
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 2: to bite into the chicken and a small greasy river

529
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 2: of mustard lands on my thigh. I opened them in

530
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 2: the side of the head and basically pushed them out

531
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 2: of the car.

532
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 3: So and then they're all piled into a car. Totally greasy.

533
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the back of a Toyota.

534
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: Lords of Flats in the seventies.

535
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: No one had Toyota in the seventies.

536
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 3: No Lords of Flat bushes. It was like you see it.

537
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 3: I saw it at Blockbuster, like on the shelf, like

538
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 3: that looks cool, and then you get it like I

539
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 3: wasted it.

540
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 2: That's why I've never had wasted at that thought. Also,

541
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 2: I love it in this moment, so thatst just stones

542
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: like my clothing, my pan mysla.

543
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 3: I mean, what's up, tough guys like.

544
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 2: You gotta get out of Toyota. It was it a sedan,

545
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 2: I imagine, like a Toyota celica, one of those.

546
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 3: Inten They climbed into the bed of a pickup.

547
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 2: There you go. I don't think it'd be warm. But

548
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 2: they're right up in blankets together looking at the stars.

549
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 3: With one of the cats over.

550
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 6: Yeah.

551
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: Okay, but at this point, now that's creepier. It is

552
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 2: creepier put them in the back of a truck. So

553
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: the film has a problem because two of their leads

554
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: do not like each other. And you can't have battling stars,

555
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 2: or you can if you if your director's good at it,

556
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: like a Hitchcock or somebody like that. But if also

557
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: it's a problem because they're the lesser names on the marquee.

558
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,239
Speaker 2: You don't want that kind of distraction. I do not

559
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:18,959
Speaker 2: I did not know. I could not tell you.

560
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 3: It doesn't really matter.

561
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: So at this point, Stallone well back to story. He

562
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 2: tells the story. The director had to make a choice.

563
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: One of us had to go, one of us had

564
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 2: to stay. Richard was given this walking papers and to

565
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 2: this day seriously disliked me. He even thinks I'm the

566
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 2: individual responsible for the Durbil ruma not true, that's the rumor. Well, well, Rocky, Rocky,

567
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 2: let him up. You're killing Rocky.

568
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 3: Come on, respect for adult professionals who can't pull it

569
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 3: together and just you know, we all have to work

570
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 3: with people can't stand. But it's like, you know, I've

571
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: had jobs where it's just like, oh my god, if

572
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 3: I hear this person talk one more time, But you

573
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 3: do your job and like to be like, oh, it's

574
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 3: him or me, it's not your project.

575
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 2: Well you're not. Sylvester Stallone, Yes, thank god. But by

576
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 2: the way, I wasn't going to bring it up. But

577
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: since he did, he ends with the big whammy, the

578
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: Richard Gear Durable story. And if you don't know where

579
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: that is, you can look it up. But I've never

580
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 2: considered this before. But now that he brought it up,

581
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 2: do you think that Sylvester Stallone started the.

582
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 3: Durable rumor if he said it like that?

583
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, because here he is, decades later, no one's brought

584
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: it up, and he's bringing it up like a little

585
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 2: more life.

586
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 3: How amazing are those kind of rumors that spread pre internet?

587
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh yeah, everybody knew that. Everyone heard that because

588
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: it was the elements were so amazing.

589
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like, how did we all know that? How

590
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 3: did the word get around?

591
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: It's just the elements. One person tells another person, it's

592
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 2: a story that's going to hit it in as long

593
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: as one person hears it, they're going to tell people,

594
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: and then they tell two people. It's literally one of

595
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: those like, I.

596
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: Think I think it was sl I think he's freaky.

597
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: If this was the Mafia, he's the rat.

598
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

599
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: Anyway, fast forward two decades to the nineteen nineties. Now

600
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 2: they've both become stars, and their stars are fading and

601
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 2: they're trying to reclaim their stars and they both have

602
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: movies doing well in the nineties, so they're on their

603
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: second wave of stardom. Elton John is hosting a party

604
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: at his home for Jeffrey Katzenberg, who is still with

605
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: Disney at this point. Party, I thought, so, it's part

606
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: of the that you'd like to start. I love you

607
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: have part of the schmoozing of what and boozing that

608
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: goes on in a Hollywood film promotional tour in the nineties,

609
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: is you have a party at Elton John. So it's

610
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four and Disney had the Lion King out,

611
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: just roaring across film screens worldwide. Everybody you know it.

612
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: So Elton John throws a party in London, right, I

613
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: guess half of everybody is there because also there that

614
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: night is Richard Gear and you guessed it, Sly the low.

615
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Elton John doesn't know not to invite

616
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: the two of them.

617
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 3: Well, and he you know, he's really hitting the A list.

618
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: They still hate each other, by the way. Also at

619
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: the party is a newly single and looking to mingle,

620
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: Princess Diana of Wales. We'll leave it to Sir Elton

621
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: to tell the story straight away. Richie Gear and Diana

622
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: seemed very taken with each other. Now at this point,

623
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: Richard Gear has married and divorced Cindy Crawford, and Princess

624
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: Diana had done the same to Prince Charles, now King Charles.

625
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 2: Apparently they were both feeling little thirsty, or as you

626
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: would say, she was warm for his form and he

627
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: was aching. He was aching for her bacon. I'd just

628
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: made that one up for you. A for her bacon

629
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: doesn't make sense anyway, as the rest of the US chatted,

630
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: I couldn't help notice a strange atmosphere in the room,

631
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: judging by the kinds of looks he kept shooting them.

632
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 2: Diana and Richie Gear's newly blossoming friendship was not going

633
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: down with Sylvester Stallone at all.

634
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 3: Wait.

635
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: I think he may have turned up to the party

636
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 2: with the express intention of picking Diana up, only to

637
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: find his plans for the evening ruined.

638
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 3: Sylvester he was going to pull Princess.

639
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: Doe at Elton John's house in London, and then he

640
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: got there and Richard Gear, his old nemesis, he's too

641
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: captain good hair.

642
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 3: I mean, like I could see Richard Gear happening, but

643
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: like Sylvester Stallone, like Stan, you're Lane my manly, No,

644
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: you're no Dodie.

645
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: So we got Elton John now clocking sad boy Stallone

646
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: as he's losing the princess had pretty boy good hair,

647
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: I mean Richard Gear. Now, what happens next will likely

648
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: not surprise you. Cut to the dinner service portion of

649
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: this London dinner party. Everyone is seated for dinner. Elton

650
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 2: notices that there are two prominent seats empty, Sylvester Stallone

651
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: and richerd Gear. Where where could they be? Elizabeth? So

652
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: Elton John calls for his husband, David Furnish, Yeah, sends

653
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: him out to investigate. David good look, and in no

654
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: time he finds the two eighties matinee idols outside. They're

655
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: both squaring up to each other, apparently about to settle

656
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: their differences over Diana by having a fistfight.

657
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 3: Stop it.

658
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god, they've literally done that. You will take

659
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: this outide, I'm going to have a duel over the

660
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: lad lady. So Elton John's husband breaks up the fist

661
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: fight between Richard Gear and s Lester Stallone, so mactor

662
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: Sir Elton. After dinner, Diana and Richard Gear resumed their

663
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: position together in front of the fire, and Sylvester's stormed

664
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: off her so in his retreat, though Sly apparently had

665
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: enough time to stop and tell Elton that he quote

666
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: never would have come if he knew Prince Effin Charming

667
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: was gonna be there. Oh my god, I don't know

668
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: why that story delights me so much.

669
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 3: It's incredible.

670
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: This it's a simple tale, a fist fight, but somehow

671
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: reveals how ridiculous our world is. Yeah, what brings me

672
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: to my favorite beef of the bunch. In this corner, Producer,

673
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: if you don't mind. In this corner, we.

674
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 7: Have the bean of Shi's existence, the venom man Denham,

675
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 7: the one time rapper turn Hollywood actor turned dog dad.

676
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 6: This daughter.

677
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 2: We have the man who's more than meets the eye, the.

678
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 4: Artist not in residence, the angriest man in Hollywood.

679
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: Shine, you told the story of Willie Carter Sharp, the

680
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 2: moonshine running Prohibition era getaway driver.

681
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 3: I certainly did.

682
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: Femme fatale, all around badass.

683
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: Yes.

684
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 2: Well. Tom Hardy and Shia La Booth starred in a

685
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: movie about her family, well her gang, right, the twenty

686
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: twelve film Lawless Yeah, based on the book The Wettest

687
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 2: County in the World. Yes, about Prohibition era backwoods gangster brothers. Yea,

688
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: the BonDurant family. In the film they play the BonDurant Brothers.

689
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: A great movie.

690
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

691
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: And well, during the production of that movie, apparently there

692
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: were tensions amongst these very taught actors.

693
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

694
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: The two notably intense like everybody else, These are probably

695
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: the most intense working actors other than Danielda Lewis and

696
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 2: a couple others.

697
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 3: Sure, and you know.

698
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: Anyway, one day they get into a bit of a tussle.

699
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: And here's how Tom Hardy tells the tale. I got

700
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: knocked out by Shia Labuff actually in wedd Is County, apparently,

701
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: and the apparently is there for effect. He lets the

702
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 2: statement sink in that one Shia Labouf knocked him out,

703
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: and two he's unaware of it.

704
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 3: Wow.

705
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 2: Yes, because Tom Hardy knows how ridiculous that must sound. Yeah, exactly,

706
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: And there's something he knows that you don't know. And

707
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 2: after the appropriate pause, and because he's a good storyteller,

708
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 2: Tom Hardy picks his story back up and as the

709
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 2: missing details, saying, how quote it was behind the scenes, No,

710
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 2: he did, he knocked me out, sparko. How cold. He's

711
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 2: a bad, bad boy he is. He's quite intimidating as well.

712
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: He's a scary dude. So some folks might hear that

713
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: and think he's kidding, he's joshing around. But I know

714
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 2: what he knows. I learned without the benefit of having

715
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: to be punched by Shia Labuff. Elizabeth, you want to

716
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: know what Tom Hardy and I.

717
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 3: Know about Shile I do.

718
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: He's a legitimate LA gang banger.

719
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: He's a gang banger for real, No, for real, they

720
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 3: no jokes.

721
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 2: Is full on jumped in never jumped Doug gang member

722
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: from back when he was a kid actor and coming

723
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: up on Disney shows. He was also poor, living in

724
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 2: a mostly Mexican neighborhood right by the east side by

725
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: Dodger Stadium. He joined a gang and he used to

726
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 2: do all that slap boxing and fighting thirteen. He can

727
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 2: throw hands. He is a well trained street kid.

728
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 3: Interesting.

729
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Shy is also a live wire as a person.

730
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: If you leave that aside, he's troubled. You put that together,

731
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: sparky guy. He's like that old timer at the bar

732
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: you do not want to fight. That's him right, Like

733
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: an Irish boxer, a bare knuckle boxer. Anyway, back to

734
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: the story, is Tom Hardy tells it, He just attacked me.

735
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: He was drinking moonshine. I was wearing a cardigan and

736
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: it went down. I woke up in peanuts.

737
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 3: Arms wearing a card again.

738
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

739
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 2: The Peanut is his personal trainer who was keeping him

740
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: in shape for the movie. And so when his personal

741
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 2: trainer sees Shy Labouth knock out Tom Hardy. According to

742
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: Tom Hardy, Peanut was concerned for me. I was like,

743
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 2: what was that? He was lightning fast and he said

744
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 2: that was Shaya And I said, can we go home now? No,

745
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 2: We've got still three weeks to finish.

746
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 5: Yeah.

747
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: If you asked the director Jim Hillcote, he tells a

748
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: much different story. I found an ama on your favorite site.

749
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: Read it. He said that Shia did not knock out

750
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: Tom Hardy or has he answered the question quote, No,

751
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: that's not true. But there was definitely a fight between them.

752
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 2: It escalated the point where they had to both be restrained.

753
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: But I was very pleased to hear it didn't go

754
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: that way because I would hate to see the outcome.

755
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 2: Oh god right. Yeah. So lastly, we have the man

756
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 2: who threw the hands, Shia.

757
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

758
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 2: He tells two versions because he's like the Bob Dylan

759
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: of acting. You ain't gonna get the same story twice. So

760
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: the first version, which he told Indy Wire, was quote, yeah,

761
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: that's a bunch of We used to wrestle all the time,

762
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: and Tom Hardy is a big person, especially then he's

763
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: getting ready to play Baine. So there's more to the

764
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,479
Speaker 2: story than that, because this was the first version he told.

765
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: But In the second version, there's way more detail, like

766
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 2: stripped down, show the world everything sort of detail. According

767
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: to he had just finished to work out at his house,

768
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 2: on his on set house, and then Tom Hardy swings

769
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: by with his trainer from the gym and he comes

770
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 2: bounding into Shia's place, but Shi is already occupied. He's

771
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 2: in bed with his girlfriend songs clothing, Tom Hardy do

772
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: not care. Tom Hardy's like, I rock with no clothing.

773
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: So anyway, this is how Shia tells the story on

774
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: the Wings and Hot Sauce Show, Hot Ones.

775
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, quote we used to.

776
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: We tell each other all the time, but it just

777
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 2: so happened that this one week, my girlfriend was in

778
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 2: town and he runs into the room and this girl

779
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: I was with at the time was terrified. She covered up,

780
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 2: she ran into the kitchen and he picked me up

781
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: and I didn't have nothing on. So now I'm naked

782
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 2: on his shoulder and we're in the hallway. We're wrestling around.

783
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: I'm like Peanut, Peanut is filming at all, And I'm like, Peanut,

784
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: you can't be filming this shit. And then we're like wrestling.

785
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: I got upset about it because he got the better

786
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: of me, but I'm in some like some weird twisty

787
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 2: naked position. We're here, Am I over here? And I'm like, oh,

788
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: dude not And he wound up engine over to the stairs.

789
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: We're like like the stairs of the balcony were he

790
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: fell downstairs and he wound up hurting his back. And

791
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 2: so for the rest of the shoot he told everybody

792
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: I knocked him out. That wasn't the case. We're having

793
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: some sort of cuty wrestling match, some sort of cutie wrestling.

794
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 3: Match, and he was wearing a card again exactly.

795
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: So there's the story apparently told all the ways. There's

796
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: the cubest version of this story.

797
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we have we have a crime of like

798
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: I got knocked out.

799
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 2: I got knocked out by surprise and walking up by

800
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: my trainer another one. I surprised him while he was

801
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: like infilegro delecto breaking entry and breaking entering, and I

802
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 2: had Peanut filming it.

803
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 3: Peanut, and then Peanut, what's happening with you?

804
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 2: Peanut?

805
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: You're making it weird, like how did you get into this?

806
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 3: So there you go, Elizabeth, Peanut, Why are you so

807
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 3: easily manipulated?

808
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 2: Yes, maybe if if Tom Hardy was gonna jump off

809
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 2: a bridge, Peanut, would you jump off the bridge? I

810
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: don't know those film it.

811
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 3: If I'm hanging with Tom Hardy's like filming every I'm

812
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: gonna film, film this.

813
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 2: I make sure to film everything.

814
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: I love that job. It's just like, hey, you know

815
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 3: you gotta stay above ground and paid.

816
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: That's true. Those are for Hollywood interactions, Elizabeth, as much

817
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: of the truth of their supposed rivalry and fistfight as

818
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna learn unless Peanut releases the tapes.

819
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Peanut, So let's take another break and after

820
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: these messages, we'll be back with the best of the bunch.

821
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Elizabeth.

822
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 2: I saved the best for last.

823
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: I did too, did you?

824
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 2: That's where I look.

825
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: Now.

826
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: This next one takes place at the met Galla. It

827
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 2: was a decade ago, a more innocent time. The year

828
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: was twenty fourteen yea, and this next mad scene went

829
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: down in an elevator. Okay, before our last tale, is

830
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 2: I present to you when a Beef Royale Jay Z

831
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 2: versus Solange Knowles.

832
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: I love this so much.

833
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 2: Before we dive in, you know the fullness of the story, correct,

834
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: You know all the gritty and gossipy details pretty much. Well,

835
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: we'll get to the albums and related songs later, but

836
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: for now, let's start with the interested parties. As you know,

837
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: jay Z and Beyonce were married at the time and

838
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: remained married to this day. Cilange Knowles is Beyonce's younger

839
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: sister and remains her younger sister to this day. Yes,

840
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: at no point did she become her older sister.

841
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 3: So that's pretty good achievement.

842
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 2: Dude, my sister passed me up. Now she's my little

843
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: big sister. I'm like, God, this is so terrible and

844
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: I'm the little big brother now. As you also know,

845
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 2: Anna Wintour is the grand Dome of the Met Gala.

846
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 2: She comes up with the theme for the year. It's

847
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 2: the guest list of stars, celebrities, glitterati, blah blah blah.

848
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: It's her party evening this evening twenty fourteen. It's a

849
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 2: charming affair. Rihanna was there all white. Naomi Campbell was there,

850
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: also in all white. Tom Brady and Giselle Bunchin were

851
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 2: there in matching black. Her and Ballanciaga. Yeah. The theme

852
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 2: for the year the Met was Charles James Courtier and

853
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: for men, it was white tie. Very simple theme that year, now,

854
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 2: which is why David Beckham wore a white dinner jacket

855
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 2: tuxedo while Victoria Beckham wore matching white as The Cut

856
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 2: reported quote, Victoria Beckham wears dressed by Victoria Beckham. David

857
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 2: Beckham wears shoes by Christian lebutin so but I'm sure

858
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: I was saying that wrong. Anyway, I just love Victoria

859
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: Beckham wears dressed by Victoria Beckham.

860
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 3: Following the dress It's like as if she was like

861
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: sewing it herself workshop.

862
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 2: Her handmade dress had of curtains, so following the dress code.

863
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: Jay Z also wore a white jacket dinner coat tuxedo. Right,

864
00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: so he's looking like Rick from Casa Blanca Beyonce war Javon.

865
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 2: She with a veil like very nineteen twenties, very early thirties. Look,

866
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: you know. Anyway, things didn't get spicy at the met

867
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 2: gala proper. Instead, it was at the after party. There

868
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 2: you go. That is where all the drama is lurking.

869
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 2: At the after party. Solange apparently was already in a

870
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 2: sour mood that night.

871
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.

872
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 2: Know if her heels were killing her after a long

873
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: night or what. But from what I gleaned from the

874
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: gossip sites and the subreddits, yeah, Solange was walking around

875
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 2: in the after party with a sour face, pissed off,

876
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: and she bumps into the designer Rachel Roy Okay, I

877
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: think Rachel roy came up to her. That's kind of

878
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 2: what I've read. Yeah, this is notable for two reasons. One,

879
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: Rachel roy is the ex wife of jay Z's former

880
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: business partner.

881
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 3: Dame Dash Oh right, yeah yeah.

882
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: And two, rumor has it she is Becky with the

883
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 2: good hair.

884
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. So at this point, Hello Bey.

885
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: The alleged Becky with the good hair stops Solange andols

886
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 2: at the party. They have some exchange. Rachel roy says

887
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: something jacked up, something that hits. It's like vinegar and

888
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: her glass of milk, and Solange makes our face extrema

889
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: walks off, but she's not done being mad because it's provocations.

890
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: But she is in fact far from being done. At

891
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: this point, Solange is like hell to the no to

892
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: this after party, right. She goes up to find her

893
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 2: big sister, Beyonce, so she can tell her that Rachel

894
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 2: Royd just had the gall to come up and get

895
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: in my face and say to me, and she tells

896
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: her we are noping out of this after party right now.

897
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 2: My point is Solange heated right redlining. They go turbine.

898
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 2: She finds Beyonce, I'm guessing with one look, her big

899
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 2: sister's like okay, and then gave her security the sign

900
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: like start exit plan B. Right. So now they are

901
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: ready to pop, and Beyonce tells her security people, you

902
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 2: know they coordinated. Jay Z is notified Beyonce and Solangenole's

903
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 2: head for the exits together in one group, right, So

904
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: she got Beyonce, jay Z, Solange security team head for

905
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: the exits. Guided by their bodyguards, they come to an elevator.

906
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 2: Solange is holding herself back with all of her might

907
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: from whatever Rachel Roy just told her. She knows her

908
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: big sister needs her to not make a scene at

909
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 2: the met gala, both for herself but mostly for Beyonce.

910
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 2: But she's a sensitive soul. Elizabeth.

911
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,479
Speaker 3: She's like one of those impossibly cool people, Like there's

912
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: like a handful totally where it's like she's so cool

913
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 3: in the sense of like so out there the original Yeah, yeah,

914
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: York's one three thousand, You're just like I can't. I don't.

915
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 3: I don't even know what atmosphere you're in, but you're.

916
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 2: Just Lauren Hill's kind of.

917
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 3: There and possibly cool. Yeah, anyway, she's just so anyway.

918
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: So she's also super duper protective of her big sister.

919
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 2: She's like a little sister extreme to the like, I'll

920
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: get violent, I will tear her faces. So anyway, at

921
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: this point, Solons and Knowles is rocking around like a

922
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: bear in an airplane bathroom, right, and she can barely

923
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: contain herself, nor can the bathroom contain her. She knows

924
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: the volume of her rage is going to get just

925
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: like like you church cathedrals couldn't hold it once she

926
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: lets it out, no telling what will happen. She knows

927
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: this about herself. She's trying to get to that elevator.

928
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 2: Nobody else knows this. The elevator arrives right, doors open.

929
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: Solange is the first to step into this tiny box right.

930
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: She's holding a clutch purse. Jay Z follows her, and

931
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 2: then Beyonce's trailing after. Jay Z security like one of

932
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: their primary large bodied bodyguards. He steps into there and

933
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: he's hold the door for Beyonce, so he's got his

934
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: back to the inside of the elevator. He's looking out

935
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 2: watching her approach. And now this is a small hotel elevator,

936
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 2: it's not like a big thing. And the doors close

937
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: once Beyonce steps in. Now no one can see them

938
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: right when Beyonce is about to step in, But just

939
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: before the doors close, Solange can't help herself and starts

940
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: getting in jay Z's face. So people see the beginnings

941
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: of a scene, and then the door's closed. Ultimate mystery.

942
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: But once there's no longer any worries of making a scene,

943
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,479
Speaker 2: Now Solange is able to let it out in order

944
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: to tell you what happens when Solange goes boom. Elizabeth,

945
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 2: I need you to close your eyes and I'd like

946
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: you to a picture. It's been a long night for you, Elizabeth.

947
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 2: Three weeks ago you were in Indio, California, there for

948
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: a surprise performance by your boss, Beyonce at her sister

949
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: Solange's headliners said at Coachella, that was no fun for you.

950
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 2: The backstage was barely secure. Seemed like anyone everyone in

951
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 2: their dog walker could get a pass backstage. Keeping Beyonce

952
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: safe from the nutters is a full time job. But

953
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 2: when you're adding close exposure to folks at a place

954
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: like Coachella. It's like you're a secret service for the President,

955
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: only more important because you're protecting Beyonce. Now tonight, the

956
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 2: gig has been a stranger. New York is always a

957
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: challenge for bodyguards. There's so much having to go down

958
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 2: to the street to leave, unlike say La, where it's

959
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: a car built culture and the resulting parking lots built

960
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 2: underneath the buildings provide far less exposure for the stars.

961
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 2: The ins and outs are much easier from a security perspective,

962
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: which has been a little easier than say Coachella. That's

963
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 2: because an a Whim Tour runs a tight shit along

964
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 2: with her husband Jay Z, as well as her sister Solange,

965
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: are in Manhattan to hit on a Win Tour's annual

966
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 2: fashion mega event and met gala. You knew that meant

967
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 2: a long night for you and your sore dogs. It

968
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: has been exactly that. Now your fallen arches are aching.

969
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 2: You cannot wait to get home and take off these

970
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: brand new dress shoes. But the first you have to

971
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 2: endure this afterparty. That's where you are now at the

972
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: Standard hotel. Thankfully, Beyonce has just given you the signal

973
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 2: to clear an exit path. You and your team do

974
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: exactly that, crisp clear, just as you practice. Now she's

975
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 2: stepping into the elevator, following her husband, Jay Z and

976
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 2: her sister Solange. You hold the door open for Beyonce,

977
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 2: just like you practice. Your head has turned so you

978
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: don't exactly see how it starts. You just hear it.

979
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 2: Before the elevator doors can fully closed, Solange must spin

980
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: around on her heels, and she gets in Jay's face,

981
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 2: and she hear her ask is it true? Is it true?

982
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: He has no idea what she's talking about her, So

983
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 2: it seems because Jass, is what true? You heard me?

984
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: You?

985
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: Troy Aikman looking sob this is a problem for you. You

986
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 2: know what Beyonce would want you to do, So you

987
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 2: do that. You start furiously tapping the closed door button.

988
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: The doors do not react quickly enough because Solange has

989
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 2: gone full mask off. She's dropped any pretense at proper behavior.

990
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: She gets right in her brother in law's face and yells,

991
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 2: spittle hitting his face. Did you do it? Jay's like,

992
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 2: do what?

993
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 5: You know?

994
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: What you hear Solange say? As you turn back, finally,

995
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: still hoping these damn elevator doors will close. Solange ain't

996
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: waiting for anything. She throws a right She tries to

997
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: hit jay Z in the face with her tasteful beaded clutch,

998
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 2: but Jay is too street to get caught sleeping like that.

999
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: He's also quick to raise a hand and block it,

1000
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: so Solange pulls back for a second blow. The elevator

1001
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: doors are just about to close. Tay blocks it again.

1002
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 2: The doors closed, Solange ain't done. She pulls back, and

1003
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: this time Jay isn't quick enough to block it. Her

1004
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 2: right hand connects with his famous face. Meanwhile, you don't

1005
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 2: know what to do. It's hold so wrong, so fast,

1006
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: you never expect the threat to come from inside the family.

1007
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 2: After a moment of hesitation, you reach around and surround

1008
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 2: the lounge with your arms, and you hold her back

1009
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: from going full Muhammed Ali on Hove's face. But she's

1010
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: still not done, and she's got two other limbs you

1011
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 2: have not restrained, so she uses those limbs. You feel

1012
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: her squirm as she sets up, and then Kiah, she

1013
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 2: kicks jay Z. He catches her foot. She kicks them again.

1014
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: You realize you're gonna need to fully separate them, so

1015
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: you pull the lune back further. She senses it, and

1016
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: she takes another swipe at jay Z with her right

1017
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,959
Speaker 2: foot before she's out of range. She misses. You are impressed.

1018
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 2: Her commitment to hurting him is remarkable. You elbow the

1019
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: emergency stop button and pause the elevator between the floor

1020
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: somewhere between the twelve, eleventh and twelfth floors. You hope

1021
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 2: that your quick thinking will keep this fight from becoming

1022
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 2: headline news tomorrow. And then you look up and you

1023
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 2: see it the surveillance camera in the corner of the elevator.

1024
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: You sigh to yourself, so much for your quick thinking.

1025
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: They're a professional now. What you don't realize at the

1026
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 2: time is that you just witness an event that will

1027
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 2: lead to not one, but two albums, not one but

1028
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 2: two tours, as well as the incredible visual album Lemonade

1029
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 2: that establishes Beyonce as the pre eminent multi media artist

1030
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 2: or her generation. That's all it comes for. Now, they

1031
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 2: need to get out of this building without making more

1032
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 2: of a scene. It's decided that while the three exit

1033
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: the met Gala after party together, the husband and wife

1034
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 2: do not leave together in the same car. Beyonce and

1035
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: Solange are escorted to one car. Security takes jay Z

1036
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 2: to a different car. Oh yeah, I read everything I

1037
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 2: could find on this one. At this point, what it

1038
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: happened was Rachel Roy alleged to be the woman that

1039
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: jay Z slept with, cheating on his wife Beyonce. She

1040
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: came up to Beyonce's sister and said in her face

1041
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: that she essentially was the one, and like, maybe I'm

1042
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: going to be You're gonna be the ex sister in

1043
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 2: law or something to this effect, intimating that jay Z

1044
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 2: and her had known each other in the biblical sense

1045
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,439
Speaker 2: clan did not let her finish all of her thought

1046
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 2: before she told her where she should go. It's spun around, right,

1047
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 2: So this provokes Solange and then she immediately confronts jay

1048
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 2: Z is this true, which then leads to the squabble

1049
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: up because he denies it and she knows he's lying. Next,

1050
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 2: Beyonce and jay Z then have a convo about his

1051
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 2: alleged infidelity. Jay Z's first impulse is to lie, right,

1052
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 2: he denies it. Yeah, he does that for a while,

1053
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 2: but lying to Beyonce ain't easy. No, the truth is

1054
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: gonna come out, is it?

1055
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 5: Did?

1056
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 2: Jay Z admits he did, in fact have an affair.

1057
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 2: Beyonce is shot heartbroken. She's faced with a difficult decision.

1058
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 2: Can she forgive his Troy Aikmanflikan face and or does

1059
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 2: she even want to fight for her marriage? She answers

1060
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 2: those two questions and others, and it leads to the

1061
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 2: greatest work of art of the twenty first century, her

1062
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 2: visual album Lemonade. I know you love it as much

1063
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 2: as I do, prisked more than I do. I don't know, so,

1064
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: but I got to ask, what's your favorite track or

1065
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 2: video or lyric or turn a phrase anything from Lemonade

1066
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 2: that just jumps to mind.

1067
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 3: It's the whole thing. It's it is so genius. Yes,

1068
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 3: it's a beautiful, genius album. But the visual it's.

1069
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 2: The New Orleans stuff like the cock car and then

1070
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: the little boy in front of and so everything, the

1071
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: big hat and the nodding. I mean, like the moment

1072
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: so z he you know, at this point, you know

1073
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 2: he knows he's wrong. Everybody knows he's wrong. Becauade.

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Speaker 3: It's such a great journey to the narrative of it.

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Speaker 2: It's a master work. I mean it literally is a

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Speaker 2: master work. And she like talks about like her decision

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Speaker 2: to forgive and her restoration of herself and like like

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Speaker 2: she has to like be honest with herself and like,

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Speaker 2: you know, her dream is gone, her fantasies are gone,

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Speaker 2: her illusions are gone. Now she has to be you know,

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Speaker 2: real with her love.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So after all this and all the claim and and

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Speaker 2: love she gets for what Lemonade is, jay Z goes

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00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 2: to the lab with pen and a pad and then

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00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 2: he starts scratching out layer. He comes back with his

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Speaker 2: album four forty four.

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Speaker 3: Which is a fantastic out also very good album. Right,

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Speaker 3: it's also like notes from My Therapy.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's got that one song Killed jay Z. Yes,

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00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: what a great title. He essentially admits his infidelity in that,

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Speaker 2: and he tried to make Beyonce believe him over her sister. Yeah,

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00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 2: and how both of those acts were very wrong, both

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00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 2: trying belonging to her and trying to split her from

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00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: her sister. Essentially, yes, or as he rhymed it, you

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00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: egg Selange on no one all along all you had

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Speaker 2: to say I was wrong in case that was too subtle.

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Speaker 2: He also had another song on the album called I

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Speaker 2: Apologize Often Woman Eyed. I don't deserve you.

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Speaker 3: There.

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00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 2: But you know, in that moment, you don't be subtle,

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00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 2: like write your message in the sky, write a song

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00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 2: and record a whole album about it.

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Speaker 3: You want to.

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Speaker 2: Hold on to Beyonce once again, he's able to keep

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Speaker 2: Beyonce from leaving him. And because of his infidelity. And

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Speaker 2: in the end, it wasn't jay Z versus Salange, it

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00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 2: was jay Z versus jay Z. Yeah, he was the

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00:53:58,520 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 2: rival he made along the way.

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Speaker 3: As for Beyonce, what if he would have pressed charges

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Speaker 3: against her.

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Speaker 2: Fun, Yeah, totally that would have been really like the

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Speaker 2: whole legal assault on her.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: As for Beyonce, Lemonade is considered, as I said, we

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00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 2: both said, no Bs one of the greatest works of

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00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 2: art of the modern era and I'm not I'm not kidding.

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00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: Rolling Stone ranked the best album of this century. Yeah,

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00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 2: and the thirty second album of all time of all

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Speaker 2: the albums ever recorded. The album won Grammys, that won

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Speaker 2: MTV Video Music Awards, it won a Peabody Award. Yeah, right,

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00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 2: all because so Launch stayed true and because jay Z

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Speaker 2: tried to lie but had to come clean. And Beyonce

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00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 2: how she turned her pain and grief and confusion and

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Speaker 2: her restoration into art. That's why we call her the Queen.

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Speaker 2: So there you go. And also she still wasn't done

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00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 2: because in case Jay Z or anyone else needed a reminder.

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Speaker 2: On her song Cozy off of her album Renaissance, Beyonce

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00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 2: sag the lyrics confident. Damn. She lethal might have suggest

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00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: you don't with my ci because she comfortable. And that's

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Speaker 2: where we leave this one, Elizabeth, it's Beyonce getting the

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00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 2: last word. I got to ask you, what's a ridiculous

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00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: take away here?

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. You know, these the egos involved are

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00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 3: so severe, you know, like I think that's none of

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00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 3: them are able to kind of let go of the ego.

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Speaker 3: Even Richard gear Mister.

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00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,959
Speaker 2: You know, I never believed that Buddhist stuff. Nothing about

1139
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 2: what he does seems very Buddhist, hanging out with the

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Speaker 2: Dalai Lama, No.

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00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 3: Exactly, but you know, I just I'm still really hung

1142
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 3: up on sliced alone, thinking he had a chance with princess.

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00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: Princess, like you like, it's ridiculous. You know, I once

1144
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 2: met him. That's why my my my spot on accurate accents,

1145
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 2: They're like, wearon was did you guys get sta loan

1146
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 2: for this. Well, it's because I met him.

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00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,720
Speaker 3: So I met him too.

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00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,479
Speaker 2: Did you like when you actually I met his kid?

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00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like thirteen, and she's you know where,

1150
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 3: We're on the ski lift in Park City, Utah. Nice

1151
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 3: And I sat next to him and then stallone not

1152
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 3: almost knocked my brother over coming down the.

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00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 2: Very that's very stallone the hill.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 2: I got to talk paint in colors with him for

1156
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 2: an hour walking around and he was just inventing colors.

1157
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 2: He's like, I think this room should be a we

1158
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 2: were we were painting his office for his production and

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00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 2: I was in my house painting days. Elizabeth.

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00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 3: Wow, anyway, profile I know.

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00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 2: Right, just name dropping over here. So yeah, and then

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Speaker 2: there's more to that story, but I will not tell it.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 2: You in the moon for a talkback? Yes, you can

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Speaker 2: wash away please? Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: I went get hey, guys. I was just listening to

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Speaker 3: the saga of Chewy the Mespipe Raccoon, and Elizabeth had

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Speaker 3: mentioned that maybe they'll make a movie about a raccoon

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Speaker 3: like Cocaine Bear.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: They actually did. It's in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: It was called Crack Coon, And I tried looking up

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00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 3: IMDb notes about it. There was not much there, sorry,

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00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 3: but I thought that that was ridiculous and you guys

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00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 3: could totally go check it out if you need something

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Speaker 3: to do. That is one ridiculous krackcoon.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that is because those little trash pandas deserve that

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Speaker 2: kind of treatment.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, thank you for that. Yes well.

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Speaker 2: As always you can find us online of Ridiculous Crime

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Speaker 2: known better, but thankfully we got Lemonade.

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