WEBVTT - Love Stories: Jennie Garth and Dave Abrams 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:06.160 Hey, there are folks in this episode nine to two 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:11.960 to one. Oh No. Our Glove series internues with the 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:14.960 love stories of two folks now who have been in 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:17.919 a relationship a marriage for ten years. But get this, 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:21.520 one of those years he rode around with their divorce 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:24.439 papers in the back of his truck. Yes, welcome to 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:27.840 this special cuffings. He's an edition of ABN TJ. 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:28.360 Robs. 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:32.600 This has been a blast. This was our final couple. Boy, 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:34.680 they went out with a bang. Didn't I love these two? 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:35.559 And certainly did. 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:38.479 Jenny Garth and her husband Dave Abrams. They have a 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:42.199 nine year age difference. Jenny is nine years older than Dave. Yes, 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:46.880 she already had three kids from a previous marriage coming 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:50.839 into this relationship. And one of my favorite moments is 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:53.120 when we asked about whether or not these two had 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:57.160 chemistry when they first met. Because this was a double 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:00.000 blind date. They were set up to meet one another, 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.800 and the moment Jenny says she saw Dave, she said, 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:04.720 oh hell no, oh hell no. 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:06.880 You know, we we get into this in the interview 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:08.640 we do with her, but we have spent some time 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:11.280 with her over the past year, and we've heard this 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:13.880 story from her in person. Now you'll hear how she 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:16.479 answers the question he and what do you say? She said, oh, 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:18.560 hell no, Well, she was just like it. 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:20.800 Was a hard note for her when she saw him. 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:22.960 But then we've talked to her in person and asked 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:25.000 her about it. She said what she saw, she was like. 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:28.600 Like, she right, But she goes on to describe him 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:31.080 as tall, dark and handsome with a pea coat, who 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:32.679 looked like an actor, and she was just like. 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:34.880 Ugh, yeah, but for a lot of people that would 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:38.000 sound awesome. He sounds great. He's a good looking, tall, 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:41.520 god great guy. But for her, in that world, she 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:44.600 was immediately turned off by someone who looked like he 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:45.399 was in that world. 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.320 Yes, because she, of course has spent most of her 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:50.040 at least at that point, most of her life in 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:51.640 front of the camera in Hollywood. 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:53.480 Man, I grew up watching her. 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:55.280 I'm the same age as her, so I grew up 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:58.200 with her watching her do nine O two and Ozero. 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:01.680 But yeah, she was just wanting out of that whole scene, 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.240 and he looked as though he was a part of it, 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:05.120 even though he isn't. 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:05.800 He isn't. 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:09.400 But these two they were the last now in our 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:12.239 series and they were. I said this to you during 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:15.040 the interview. I leaned over and I said, these are adults, 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:17.639 like they are grown folks who've been through a lot. 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.840 They've been through previous relationships and marriages, they broke up 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.200 for a little while, you got step kids involved. There's 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:26.480 so much going on. But they also show us that, yes, 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.080 despite all of that, there's still something to them that 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.840 is evident in the conversation we're having. It's not just 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.160 a matter we're still together or we've been together two years. No, 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:37.040 you can see them while they sit next to each 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:38.720 other and how they talk to each other, that there 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:40.519 is something still special going on with these two. I 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:40.960 love it. 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:43.320 It is inspirational to know that you can get that 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:46.600 low and be that bad off where you actually have 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:50.040 divorce papers and you are not talking, you are not 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.480 seeing each other for over a year, and here they are, 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:57.800 six years after that tumultuous year. They can sit there 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:01.160 and be in love and so comfortable with one another, 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.160 and the trust that they've built up from going through 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:07.000 that trunk is evident and speaks to the strength of 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:10.880 their relationship today. So, without further ado, please take a 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:13.960 listen to our conversation with Jenny Garth and Dave Abrams. 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.560 Jenny and Dave are with us now. Thank you all 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:21.560 for agreeing to do this, and thank you for being 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:22.280 with us today. 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:25.760 Absolutely, you're welcome. We love seeing you too. 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:27.160 I we love seeing you. 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.760 It's been so much fun to see couples sitting next 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.800 to each other, interacting with each other while answering the questions. 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:36.240 It's a very different experience than just interviewing someone one 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.560 on one. So this, we promise this will be fun. 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:40.680 All right, we'll start off. 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:45.120 With each of you give me three words to describe 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.280 the state of your relationship right now. 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.160 Who wants to go first? 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.320 Okay, the first three words that pop in my head, 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:59.720 I would say stability. That just popped in my head. 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:02.680 I don't know if this is a negative word, but 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:07.480 content is like that was another one. No, but it 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:11.240 just I'm I'm I've been like mulling over like how 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:16.359 I'm very content and and it's like it's it's a 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:20.719 weird feeling, because when are you you know, some something's happening, 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:25.960 But no, no, no, I'm feeling like trying to understand, trying to 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:28.120 understand the words I'm not. 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:29.160 I've only gotten. 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:38.919 A content, stability, and I would say, uh, support is 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:43.000 another one. Oh well you yeah, I went first, So 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:47.200 I think support is right now. I feel like with 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:51.320 her supporting me and me supporting her with all the 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:55.880 you know stuff she has going and yeah, and it 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.120 is the same with me as well. Her support for 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:01.800 me is yeah, full on and that's been That was 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.839 one of the big things early in our relationship was 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:06.839 sometimes I felt like I wasn't supported. 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:11.400 So okay, that's just question one. 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:13.120 We just don't question one. Guys. 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.880 All right, Jenny, where are your three words support? 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:28.880 Support, I wou'd say humorous, we laugh a lot, and reliable. 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:31.400 We are we are we always do what we say 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.360 we're going to do. We're always where we say we're 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.520 going to be, and that gives both of us, I think, 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:40.480 such a sense of stability and that reassurance. 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.840 There's next places we are actually ever at any good point, so. 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:48.880 We don't we don't stray far from our so forth. 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:52.440 Yeah, gotchaka, next question here and we this is going 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:54.479 to be fun because we have heard part of the 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:57.320 story about how you all met. But the question that 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:01.039 we've asked all the couples is was there immediate chemistry 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:02.200 when you first. 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:03.679 Met you want me to go first? 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:09.320 No, it was a blind date, right, it was. 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:13.440 A blind double date. And I think I told you 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.080 guys this once on some other podcasts we do. But 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:20.080 we we talked about the fact that I walked into 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:25.080 the setup location, the restaurant, the bar, and I walked 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:28.600 in and I immediately saw a tall, handsome, like actor 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:32.600 looking guy with scrubble pea coat, so pretentious, and I 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:38.320 was like, oh, I thought, no, no, so yeah, that 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.040 was my first I disagree. 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:42.000 I think that it was. 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.360 There was a disagree with my reaction. 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.720 No chemistry, The question was chemistry. I feel like there 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:52.520 was chemistry. We were just kind of like waiting for it. 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:55.120 Because after we left that date with the two people 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:56.960 that we were on the date with, we went and 0:06:57.040 --> 0:07:01.479 had a drink by ourselves, and that's when, Yeah, we 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:05.320 had a lot of chemistry. We didn't stop seeing each other, 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:07.960 like and then we got married. 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.920 So there, who said I love you first? 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:15.200 Probably me? 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:20.160 I was thinking, it's probably me. Wow, is it bad 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:20.960 that we don't remember? 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.160 No this, We've talked all these couples. This is the 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:28.400 first time there wasn't an immediate Ah, it's usually is 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:28.680 the guy. 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:29.800 It was usually the guy. 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:34.200 But yeah, okay, but you all can't remember who it was. 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:39.000 No, I remember so much vividly. I don't. I feel 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.200 like it was me, but you feel like it was you. 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:45.560 I don't. I don't know. I think I blocked that 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:46.640 on my memory. 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:49.160 How about I put it this way, you all knowing 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.960 what you know of each other and your relationship. Now, 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:56.560 who is it more likely? You think probably said it first. 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.560 I feel like it's more likely me because I'm a 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:04.240 little bit more of a communicator, like a clear shooter, 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:06.840 you know. I'm like, look, I love you, let's not 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:07.920 waste any more time. 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:11.200 Yeah, that's true, That could be true. Yeah, I agree 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:14.520 with that, all right. She's very yeah, very direct. 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:19.240 That is a good thing in a relationship. How long 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.720 did you all date before you got engaged? How long 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:25.200 were you engaged before you got married. 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:26.760 We were engaged. 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:31.480 We got months after we met December, January, February. We 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:35.960 were engaged in March. We got married in July. 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:42.479 Wow, six months and got married at six months six months? 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.920 Did you have any reservations at that, like, for having 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:47.439 such an accelerated timeline. 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:52.360 Uh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, because I mean it 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:54.360 bit us in the butt like three years down the 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:56.839 road because we didn't I mean, we broke up for 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:57.920 like eight. 0:08:57.720 --> 0:08:59.920 Months a year. It was twelve months, actually. 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:01.880 It was it was like eight months, just twelve. 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:03.840 You broke up. You were already married though, so you 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:05.960 were you were separated, separated. 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:09.600 Yeah, but I think that's because we did jump into 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.120 it full and fast like that, and I think we 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:14.319 could have used a little more time to understand get 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.760 to know each other and our problem solving where we 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:21.400 each were individually, like in our growth and my healing, 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.840 and you know, we just could have used some more time. Probably. 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:28.600 I had a lot of stuff that, you know, that 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.920 I had to kind of deal with that I didn't 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:36.440 deal with in my single days and other relationships that 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.000 you know, the same patterns were happening. I had to 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:42.199 look at myself and also she had to look at herself. 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:46.360 And then it's been great ever since. So it was 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:49.240 I mean, it's crazy, but it was such a Our 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:51.480 journey has been such a blessing. I mean, I know 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:54.319 it sounds cheesy to say that, but it's it's true. 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:56.400 I wouldn't have changed that. 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:59.240 That totally makes sense. What happened in those eight or 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.360 ten months. It was the difference that made the difference 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:06.120 that now look at you, how many years later, still together, 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:07.080 still happy. 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:09.720 What happened during that period of time when you separated. 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:12.680 Been back together for like six years during the break 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:13.920 when we were broken up. 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.079 I think we just both, like we said, did a 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:21.920 lot of personal growth. I think that prior to the breakup, 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.640 to the separation, i'll call it, we had been going 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.800 to couple therapy and that wasn't working for us like that. 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:31.840 He did not like that and so and it didn't 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:35.400 it didn't help us. So we thought he didn't want 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:37.000 to do it anymore. And I thought, well, why don't 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.800 I just work on myself and you work on yourself, 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:42.000 and they'll see what happens and see if that if 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:45.560 we uncover some things, some truths about ourselves that we 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.480 need to look at and you know, grow through. And 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:50.480 I think that that's one of the big things that 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:53.960 happened while we were separated. He had his divorce papers 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:58.199 in a Manila envelope in the back you know how 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.360 you're he has a truck and then in the back 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.280 of the truck seat there's a pocket like in the seat. Yeah, 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:08.360 the Manila envelope with our divorce papers completely ready to 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.320 sign here, drove them around for months and months and 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:12.800 months in this car. Yeah. 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:16.000 So I filed in like April. There was like you know, 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.480 the first four months where it's anger and just I 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:21.800 don't want to talk to you. I'm done, I'm blah blah. 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:25.120 So I got papers drawn up in like April. I 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:26.959 didn't know what I was doing. The guy was like, well, 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:29.760 you have community properties, Like I don't care, just do 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:31.760 whatever is the easiest fast trap. 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:32.920 Oh my god. 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:40.240 And then in December January we started kind of dating 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:44.480 again and becoming like trying to do like we made 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:46.480 it a point to be like a normal couple. I 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.920 had a little apartment, I had gotten a dog, like 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:53.880 I was going through something, and so she you guys. 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:57.960 He got a dog. While wait, it's a dog. Yeah, 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:00.840 oh wait, know you got a new truck, a giant 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.959 truck that doesn't even fit on the streets of Los Angeles. 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:05.400 I mean, okay, he was going through something. 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.600 Yeah, okay, you is the dog still with you? 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:08.839 All? 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:09.640 Yeah? 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:14.160 Yeah, he's our son now. Yeah, he's like he's in 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.960 love more. He's in love with Jenny. Like that's his person. 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:20.440 We're more concerned that you're in love with her and 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:25.120 she's still your person. Yeah, mister Manila envelope. 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.760 Jesus seriously, guys, the Manila envelope was still in there 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:30.800 like a year I think after. 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:34.840 Yeah, we got back. I just sat there. I don't 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.840 throw away a lot of stuff. 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:40.200 That might be one thing you should throw away though. 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:44.360 Yeah, it's gone. The truck's gone. 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.280 Wow, guys, I think we could rap now because you 0:12:48.320 --> 0:13:00.160 all just answered questions eight through forty. 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.840 Next question here is there? I'm not sure. 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.760 Is there an age difference and has it played any 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:08.160 role in your relationship? 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:11.480 Yes, I'm nine. 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:12.600 Years older than Dave. 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:16.720 So when we met, I was thirty four, she was 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.720 forty three, and then we got married. I was thirty 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:23.320 five four five he got married. Oh my god, I can't. 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.120 When we go back in time and I realized how 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.720 young you were, it freaks me out a little bit. 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:30.679 I was a young thirty five. 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:36.880 Yeah, you know what, that made complete sense to me. 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:40.120 I didn't get close to the beginning to get my 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:43.120 ish together in life until I was probably thirty eight 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:47.000 or thirty nine. I was a mess, so that it 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:48.079 makes perfect sense. 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:51.080 Yeah, I mean, yeah, that was that was totally true 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.320 with me, and then jumping into the situation where I 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:58.520 had three step children the ages of like sixteen eleven 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.640 or or Lola was just twelve, and then Fiona was 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:05.319 a seven eight, and then taking all that on and 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:10.559 the dogs and then this celebrity and this celebrity that 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:12.960 I had just come into her life, and then like 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.200 paparazzi and like stuff like that, and then. 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:18.280 It was a lot. 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:19.000 It was a lot. 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:20.960 Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:23.480 So I mean, that's that's admirable that you all took 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.360 a beat and it was probably scary as hell and 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:28.240 awful for that period of time. 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:29.040 But look at you now. 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.560 That's that's really impressive and it's inspirational for folks who 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:32.760 are going through tough times. 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:36.480 But you can, you know, you can figure it out. 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:37.520 Yeah you want to. 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:38.680 That's really cool. 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:40.960 I didn't get through it. But back to your point 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:45.120 about the age thing, So they're having that gap in 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.440 age there there have been times when it comes up. 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.080 I think not as much anymore because, like we said, 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:53.960 he has done some growing up. I've stopped growing up 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:55.720 and you keep growing up, which is great. So now 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:57.720 we're kind of like in the middle. 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:03.520 Yeah, I agree, the age difference. I never really felt 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:08.160 I never really that wasn't that wasn't really a big 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.400 issue to me. It was a bigger issue for everybody 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:12.800 else because they would, you know, they would talk about 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:15.360 it more in the news or whatever. When we were 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:16.640 first together, it was a thing. 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.360 But funny enough, if a man was nine years older 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:22.960 than the woman, no one would say, oh, that's just 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:23.640 when It's like. 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.040 No one would that and I no one would care, 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.600 and no it ever gets talked about. But I mean, 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:31.680 I think there was a couple other celebrities that Kristin 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:33.880 Cavaleria was dating like a twenty five year old and 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:34.880 that was all over the news. 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:36.800 Yeah, no, I hear you. 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.000 Why did you two and you made the decision very quickly, 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.680 as you just told us, Why did you two want 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:46.400 to be married? And where do you think the two 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.320 of you would be if you had just chosen to 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:53.280 stay as a couple and never actually officially legally get married. 0:15:55.720 --> 0:16:00.560 I think for me, having three you know, grows who 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:05.120 were young young tweens and teenagers, it was weird for 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:08.960 me to just, based on my morals and my upbringings 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:10.640 to have a man in the house that I wasn't 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:13.560 fully committed to or he wasn't fully committed to me, 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:16.800 because I didn't want to give them the messaging. That's 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:18.800 what was one of the things that was important for me, 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.920 And maybe that was one of the things that you know, 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:25.120 caused us to rush into it because marriage was more 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:29.160 important to me. I'm just I'm a Midwestern I like 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:31.680 to be married. I like to have full on commitment, 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.320 and I like to know I'm not wasting my time 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:36.280 with somebody, you know what I mean. 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:40.560 So for me that yeah, yeah, I mean I think 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:44.080 for me, I didn't. I didn't think about marriage. I 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:48.080 didn't really think about kids. I didn't. I just was 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:51.240 kind of, you know, plugging away and this kind of 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:57.120 just like happened, and I just kind of went with it. 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:58.120 I got into it. 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:02.640 No appreciate the honesty of that answer, really there, Jenny, 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:04.239 to be able to talk about it in such a way. 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:06.320 Yet, you know what, we probably. 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:08.320 Because of you wanted marriage and because of the way 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:11.199 you came up, you probably rushed into the marriage. 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:12.600 That was a very honest answer. 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.399 I appreciate that one hundred percent. I mean I was 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:22.280 so in love and so like committed. At that time, 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:25.760 I was like, let's let me do everything I can 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:30.320 to show this woman that I am this person and 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:35.240 I am committed. And then you know, obviously after the 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:40.679 purple roses whatever the saying is, and you've hit reality 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:45.680 and then you're yeah, it's a lot. But I think 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:48.920 looking back, I wouldn't have changed anything. But I love 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:49.520 what we did. 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:51.560 That's very cool. 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.680 So we I always preface this next question with we 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:57.679 ask everyone this question, answer it however you'd like. But 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:00.679 how would you describe your sex life and how has 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:02.600 it changed over the years. 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.959 Well, when we got together. When we first got together, 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.480 I was in my forties, and you know what they 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:13.679 say about ladies in their forties, late forties, Like I 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:16.000 was ready all the time, right, yeah, yeah. 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:19.840 Yes, yeah, women come into their sexual powers in their 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:22.359 thirties and forties. Yeah. 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:25.600 And I think that you had I don't know. 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:29.440 Where you were this like in the beginning. Yeah, yeah, 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.520 I mean it's always good at the beginning, and then. 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:37.720 You know, and then you know, yeah, I mean, you know. 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:41.040 We don't really were We don't really talk a lot 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:44.439 about sex and stuff like that. I'm pretty modest, I 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:48.240 don't I've never you know, been very wealth Yeah, totally, 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:51.640 but I would say that it's definitely gotten better. There's 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:56.680 definitely been challenges with menopause and certain things and. 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:59.160 Teenage kids in the house all the time. 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:03.520 We have never we never have an empty house. So 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:05.680 it's like, I mean even the twenty two year old 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:08.360 those with us, which I love that she's here. Her 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:12.480 boyfriend's also here like a lot, which I love him too, 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:15.359 but it's a full house. 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:19.000 Does that have effect? Yeah, we go on weekend ways. 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:21.960 We just did, like just like we just went to 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:24.440 Palm Springs for like a night just to get out, 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:26.840 just to be like, we throw the phone away, we 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:30.399 just need to get away. And that was great. But 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:31.400 that we have. 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:33.120 To get speak quiet all the time. That I hope 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:35.159 my kids aren't listening to this. You don't need to 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:39.600 be quiet. All our balls are shared by two teenage girls. 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:41.760 Like it's a thing. 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:43.480 Yeah, that's tough. 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:46.840 And we know this because they've said, well, why were 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:49.639 you guys arguing this? I was like, it wasn't what 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:50.600 are you talking about? 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:53.600 That was Now when we have sex, we argue just 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:54.320 to fool them. 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:59.960 Oh my god, we turn on the TV. We've last 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:00.840 the TV. 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:03.600 This is a real relationship here. 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:05.960 This is great, all right, next question here, aside from 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:10.360 sex though physical touch, how important is physical touch? For example, 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:12.959 walking down the street, do you find yourself you're always 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:15.120 holding hands. If you're in the room, do you find 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:17.480 yourselves rubbing up against each other? How important is that 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:17.680 to you? 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:23.600 Well, I know you two are touchers. You like physical connection. 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:28.879 I love that about your couple. But we always hold hands. 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:31.040