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Speaker 1: All Right, here we go, it's our two. It is

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Speaker 1: great to have you back. I'm not in the greatest mood.

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Speaker 1: The Seattle Mariners for most of my life have been

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Speaker 1: knocking on the door of history in sports, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of times nobody lets them in. And last night

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Speaker 1: I was just defending major DG managers like they get

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Speaker 1: eaten alive. Dave Roberts is always getting criticized. But we've

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Speaker 1: muted the power of major dig managers, right. The analytics

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Speaker 1: guys upstairs make a lot of the calls. They don't

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Speaker 1: get as much money as they used to. I mean,

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Speaker 1: think about like when I grew up with like Whitey Herzog,

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Speaker 1: and you know these guys had Billy Martin, I big personalities,

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Speaker 1: Earl Weaver. It was like they were the most important

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Speaker 1: guy in the entire organization. That's not the way it

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Speaker 1: is anymore. So I tend to defend major dig managers.

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Speaker 1: But I did think Dan Wilson, I mean, listen, he

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Speaker 1: pitched to George Springer. I would have put him on base,

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Speaker 1: but Vlad Guerrero was coming up in a couple of batters.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't ideal. I would have gone with Munno's because

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Speaker 1: to me, that George Springer at bat that inning was

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Speaker 1: the biggest inning in Mari in her history.

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Speaker 3: That was the biggest inning and mayor in her history.

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Speaker 1: If you can get out of that one, and you

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Speaker 1: can get past Springer, and you can get past Flad easier,

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Speaker 1: part of the lineup coming, Munhos is your guy.

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Speaker 3: So you know whatever, you.

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Speaker 1: Can second guest managers all the time. I tend to

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Speaker 1: defend major dig managers because I don't have the pull

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Speaker 3: But that was dicey.

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Speaker 1: But again, Dan Wilson, a former catcher, super smart guy,

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Speaker 1: knows it better than anybody else. But that was something else.

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Speaker 1: All right, here we go, It is Tuesday. Here's the

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Speaker 1: herd hierarchy.

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Speaker 2: Heard hierarchy. Now go the top ten NFL teams according

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Speaker 2: to College Number ten.

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Speaker 3: I put him in this morning.

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Speaker 1: I bounced the Seahawks out because after those four giveaways,

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Speaker 1: I just can't trust Seattle. Seattle's eleven. I put New

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Speaker 1: England in at ten. They don't beat themselves. Four straight wins,

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Speaker 1: top ten offense, top five scoring defense. Mike Vrabel. This

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Speaker 1: was our prediction, the team that would double their win total.

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Speaker 1: We said it before the season. We had them as

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Speaker 1: a playoff team. Their remaining schedule is the easiest in

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Speaker 1: the league. Six straight games with one hundred plus passer rating.

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Speaker 1: I like Drake may I didn't think he would be

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Speaker 1: this good this quick. They feel like a one and

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Speaker 1: done playoff team that's winning a lot on energy and

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Speaker 1: focus and enthusiasm and youth. But I put them at

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Speaker 1: ten and bounce Seattle out. Number nine the Niners. I

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Speaker 1: think Kyle Shanahan's in the running for coach of the year.

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Speaker 1: No Brock Purty, Brandon I, Ricky Piersoll, George Kittle, Fred Warner,

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Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator. They have the number seven scoring defense.

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Speaker 1: They are very Christian McCaffrey dependent. Thirty touches or thirty

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Speaker 3: Six of their next seven.

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Speaker 1: Games against very weak opponents. They should be favored in

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Speaker 1: Purty feels a little bit like a wash to me.

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Speaker 1: One's expensive ones kind of free, but I think you

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Speaker 3: I put him at nine.

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Speaker 2: Number eight Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: They keep leaving me wanting more, but they are undefeated

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Speaker 1: when scoring more than ten points this season. I just

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Speaker 1: And he's completing sixty nine percent of his throws and

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Speaker 1: I have Green Bay eight. I think they will get better.

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Speaker 1: living dangerously, coming from behind and that was a buzz saw.

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Speaker 1: be better Bonicks when trailing this season a very Mahomes

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Speaker 1: at six number five Detroit. Detroit's run game jumps off

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Speaker 1: easily in the league, Kansas City. Their defense, takes the

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Speaker 1: much better obviously at home. But I have Detroit Tampa

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Speaker 1: best outright record in the league at six and one.

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Speaker 1: They're only lost in the Rams, and they outplayed them.

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Speaker 1: Great offensive line, playmakers at running back, tight end, wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: tied for the most touchdowns. I mean Daniel Jones. I

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Speaker 1: They've scored on sixty three percent of their drives, and

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Speaker 1: I think they're absolutely for real. I've always said my

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Speaker 1: number three Rams, it's not really just Stafford and McVeigh.

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Speaker 1: That defense is suffocating.

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Speaker 1: It may not be suffocating if they faced them all

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Speaker 1: against the great quarterbacks, but men Trevor Lawrence, good luck.

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Speaker 1: They lead the NFL in big play, no Puka, no problem,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if I like Philadelphia. I honestly,

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Speaker 1: to figure out. They don't get to the quarterback. They've

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Speaker 1: been out gained in every game. There's a French term

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Speaker 1: that's the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: But I love their.

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Speaker 3: Figure it out. But I have them at two, number one.

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Speaker 1: And I think they get smoked if they played Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: I said it a month ago. This is as good

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Speaker 1: I'm serious here. I think this team I do wonder

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Speaker 1: a situational pass rusher maybe. And they're not a great

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Speaker 1: run team. They are so deep now at wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: Here you go my top ten Seattle eleven. I had

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Speaker 1: him in last night when I texted Kyle on our staff,

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Speaker 1: and this morning I'm like, no, I'm disgusted. That was awful.

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Speaker 1: Take him out. Seahawk's eleven bills twelve. Nick Wright joining

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Speaker 4: I got something for you. Colin hold On was listening.

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Speaker 4: I don't speak French, but let's see if I can

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Speaker 4: do this in real time.

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Speaker 5: Jolie Ladd is like.

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Speaker 4: Get pretty yet ugly. That's what you were looking for.

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Speaker 4: I googled it for you. There you go, pal uh,

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Speaker 4: pretty yet ugly.

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Speaker 5: It sounds like your Broncos take.

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Speaker 4: Did you compare bow Nicks to Patrick Malmes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Did that happen?

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Speaker 1: I mean, who else could take nineteen nothing deficit?

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Speaker 3: Greatest quarter for a quarterback. Ever, I stand I die

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Speaker 4: Ok, And that was okay, So all right, A few

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Speaker 4: things that listen. It is remarkable what they've done and

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Speaker 4: but I was too busy googling Jolie.

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Speaker 5: Ladd to fact.

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Speaker 4: You said he has eleven touchdowns wind trailing. But he

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Speaker 4: also has eleven touchdowns total, So that would mean they've

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Speaker 4: all come when is trailing at least eleven batting dutchdowns total.

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Speaker 5: That Bart's not great.

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Speaker 4: In the last The Broncos are really weird because their

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Speaker 4: last three games Philly, the Jets, and the Giants. I know,

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Speaker 4: they have thirteen points in the first three quarters combined

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Speaker 4: I think the defense is great.

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Speaker 5: I think BO.

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Speaker 4: The other weird thing about Bo is nothing gives you

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Speaker 4: bow knicks early in a game takes a deep shot.

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Speaker 4: It's like, well, that's going to hit a ball boy

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Speaker 4: they're just spraying out of bounds. But then late in

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Speaker 4: You also, I want to talk about the Bills in

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Speaker 4: the Seahawks, but can I just ask you one question

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 5: Just one?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, can we read visit a bit that the dynasty

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Speaker 4: phase is over or we may be still in the

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Speaker 4: dynasty phase of my team. I had to deal with

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Speaker 4: a lot of slings and arrows from you, my dear

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Speaker 4: friend and professional idol and mentor, all.

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Speaker 5: Summer that this was.

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Speaker 4: You know, they'll still be good, but they're just not

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Speaker 4: dynastic anymore, whatever it is. And now I think you

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Speaker 4: feel like the gap between them and whomever is second

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Speaker 5: In two and ten.

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Speaker 4: Correct, Yeah, yeah, Okay, I just wanted to hear it.

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Speaker 5: That's all that. Why are the Bills not in there?

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Speaker 1: Okay, First of all, they can't they can't defend the run,

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Speaker 3: And Seattle makes too many mistakes. Last night was a mess.

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Speaker 4: And I didn't see Colin. You watched more college football

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Speaker 5: I am. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: I I these guys.

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Speaker 1: I watch Ben Johnson. You can't tell me he's happy

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 4: It feels like something similar right now is happening with Caleb.

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Speaker 5: Again.

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Speaker 4: that it's not a little further along because that's Saint

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's the ultimate Colin was wrong and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well so listen.

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Speaker 4: I think going once they traded Micah, the Cowboys path

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Speaker 5: For dear life.

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Speaker 4: Most people, myself included, looked at that and said, well,

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Speaker 4: So I have been super skeptical of Pickens, and that

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Speaker 5: But he's been excellent.

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Speaker 4: The Cowboys offense performing the way it did when Ced

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Speaker 4: It also does feel to me that and I don't

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Speaker 5: I give him a ton of credit.

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Speaker 1: by a young man who said he chronicles Lebron's la

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Speaker 4: It's just been a rough last half decade.

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Speaker 4: And yes, of course he is calculated, and yes, of

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Speaker 4: quite literally any other athlete of our lives.

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Speaker 1: Nick Wright, I agree. First things first, I'll leave you

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Speaker 1: with this. This doesn't mean anything. Please, this doesn't mean anything.

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Speaker 1: I just want to throw it out there because I'm

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Speaker 1: Dray data driven. Bo Nix's college winning percentage was seventy percent.

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Speaker 3: Patrick's was forty four.

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Speaker 4: Well, another way, you know what that means a lot,

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Speaker 4: because that's another piece of data that shows bo Nix

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Speaker 4: is nothing like Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 5: And I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: Talk to you everybuddy, all right, great, Nick, right, appreciate that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean you know it's Chris Rock had a line

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Speaker 1: years ago. A man is as loyal as his options,

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Speaker 1: and similar to that, you know everybody's I can't believe

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Speaker 1: you took the money from them, and you did that.

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Speaker 3: You don't have any options.

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Speaker 1: People with options take advantage of options. The other thing is,

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Speaker 1: whenever I hear well this guy is calculated, this guy

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Speaker 1: is protecting his brand. Yeah, he's got one. That's what

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Speaker 1: happens when you're worth a billion dollars. Tiger would have

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Speaker 1: been better to protect his brand, right, There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys who've had a brand and butchered it.

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Speaker 3: So listen. I do think there are times Lebron on.

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Speaker 1: The Internet and on the Instagram is pretty it's pretty calculated,

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Speaker 1: you know. I think that's fair to say. But he's

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Speaker 1: he's got a lot to protect. Here's another number I

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Speaker 1: wish I had Nick fourth quarter passer rating this year

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Speaker 1: Bonnicks one oh one. Mahomes immediately ninety eight. The Dad

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Speaker 1: is coming out. It's pretty clear, pretty pretty clear. Greg

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Speaker 1: Olsen's around the corner as well in Chicago.

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Speaker 3: Jmaker, you coffee drinker.

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Speaker 7: It's funny you asked that. For the first time in months.

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Speaker 7: I had Starbucks yesterday. It was delicious. I just don't

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Speaker 7: get a healthy drink there, so I know that I

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Speaker 7: can't have it regularly, but I'll have a small coffee

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Speaker 7: here at work.

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Speaker 8: But it's a tiny Why are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm on my fourth cup, but there's never been There

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Speaker 1: has never been an instance where somebody was on their

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Speaker 1: deathbed and said I just drank too much coffee. Never

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Speaker 1: happened in the history of the world.

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Speaker 7: Le's about that. I'm worried about the right now. I

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Speaker 7: don't care about my deathbed. Are you handling four cups?

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Speaker 8: Okay? I mean some of these takes are a little

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Speaker 8: unhinged right now. Maybe a cup of coffee.

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Speaker 3: Jam pack with the news.

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Speaker 2: This is the herd line news.

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Speaker 3: That's what I gotta do. I gotta blame the caffeine.

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Speaker 3: That's a good one. He's coffee.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, all right.

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Speaker 7: Let's start with your Chicago Bears. Four straight wins, pretty

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Speaker 7: impressive run. They got the Ravens this week. We'll see

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Speaker 7: what happens with Lamar. I mean, I'd like to see

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Speaker 7: a Lamar Caleb Williams showdown. Caleb Williams has not been

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Speaker 7: particularly crisp during this four game stretch, but he knows

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Speaker 7: there's still a lot to work on.

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Speaker 9: There are things that I can be better at. There

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Speaker 9: are things that I'm going to be better at. There

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Speaker 9: are things that you know that that you know weren't

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Speaker 9: hitting the day, and and you know you just have

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Speaker 9: those days sometime. And it's nice that we have a defense,

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Speaker 9: we have a special teams, a punter or whatever you

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Speaker 9: want to say, kicker that can put us ahead, that

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Speaker 9: can help us win games, a run game that can

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Speaker 9: you know, control the game. And so, uh, you know,

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Speaker 9: we get this figured out. On my side, we'll be

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Speaker 9: you know, we'll be putting up a lot of to

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Speaker 9: be very dangerous.

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Speaker 1: He's good at the podium. He says the right thing.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't get defensive, he doesn't get prickly. He's very

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Speaker 1: good at the podium.

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Speaker 7: Easy to say the right thing when you won four straight,

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Speaker 7: I mean, shucks with our ratings cooking, it's easy for

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Speaker 7: me to come up here and be like, hey.

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Speaker 2: It's me.

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Speaker 7: You go four and one back to back weeks, you

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Speaker 7: just roll up giving out picks left.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's that easy. I think being good

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Speaker 1: at the podium's a skill. I think he's really good

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Speaker 1: at it.

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Speaker 7: So here's my thing. And I wish I had gone

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Speaker 7: in deeper on this, but I had looked at the

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Speaker 7: schedule and said, you know, the Bears could get hot.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if you remember that.

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Speaker 3: Their schedule is there for w's Well, I'm just saying, if.

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Speaker 7: Lamar don't play this weekend, I think they can.

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Speaker 8: Win that one. And then it's Joe Flacco, Jackson Dart

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Speaker 8: and JJ McCarthy and I don't.

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Speaker 7: Think Pittsburgh's very good. All of a sudden, Bears become

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Speaker 7: a spicy wild card team. Colin like they're on the cusp.

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Speaker 7: I still need to see more because I don't want

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Speaker 7: to poo.

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Speaker 8: Poo the four game winning streak. But at home against Dallas, I.

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Speaker 1: Will say this, Come on the teams that are running

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Speaker 1: the football consistently, Detroit, Seattle, Chicago, it's a ra Here

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Speaker 1: comes the crappy weather, Here comes the bad weather.

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Speaker 3: Holts, Yeah, the Colts.

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Speaker 1: You start looking at all the team. You know, we've

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Speaker 1: always been a passing league. Now it gets cold. Now

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Speaker 1: you have to have a run game. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: Cleveland beat Miami this weekend. Oh Cleveland's rookie running back

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Speaker 1: from Ohio State look pretty dominant.

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Speaker 7: Did you notice the Chargers have struggled o'mary and Hampton down.

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Speaker 7: I know Vidal had a good game, but it's like,

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Speaker 7: come on, Vidal, you can't count on him. No, it's

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Speaker 7: run to set up the pass first. Now the league

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Speaker 7: is shifting because of the two high safeties. They're just

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Speaker 7: now giving up big plays. Did you see Houston last night?

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Speaker 7: How many times were they just chucking it twenty yards

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Speaker 7: down the field with like zero success? I mean, Baker

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Speaker 7: Mayfield through fifty passes last night, Colin, they had one

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Speaker 7: touchdown on offense. Like, you've got to be able to

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Speaker 7: run the football, No, Bucky Irving. Last night, Tampa could

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Speaker 7: do nothing on the ground. So I would focus on

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Speaker 7: that and this swift and I'm not going I don't

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Speaker 7: know how do you pronounce the new running backs name Monogamy.

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Speaker 7: I don't even know what it is. I've got him

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Speaker 7: on my fantasy team. He's got some pop. If you

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Speaker 7: can now get those two cooking in Chicago, this Baltimore

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Speaker 7: game gets spicy, especially if Lamar does not play. All right, Colin,

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Speaker 7: let's move on to the New York Giants the GMN.

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Speaker 7: How about that collapse up nineteen zero and blow it,

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Speaker 7: conceding thirty three in the fourth. Brian Dabele, who appeared

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Speaker 7: very rattle by the loss, says he's not planning any

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Speaker 7: staff or play calling changes ahead of the matchup with Philly.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not considering that but we all got to

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Speaker 2: do a better job.

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Speaker 9: Starts with me, and there's plenty of opportunities to finish

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Speaker 9: that game the way we wanted to, and we didn't.

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Speaker 2: Get the job done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think the best thing that's happened to Brian Dabol

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Speaker 1: is the emergence of Dart, because I think it would

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Speaker 1: be really hard right now to separate those two. And

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Speaker 1: I I look at Jackson Dart and I said this

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Speaker 1: before the season, I said this about the Colts, and

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Speaker 1: I said it about the Giants. I like the rosters

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Speaker 1: Colts more than the Giants. They needed a quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: the Colts are not a mirage. I mean they go

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Speaker 1: look at the Colts offense, O line, tight end, wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: running back at stars and you look at the New

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Speaker 1: York Giants without neighbors Scataboo Dart left tackle. We know

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Speaker 1: their defensive fronts excellent. I don't think I don't think

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Speaker 1: the win over I don't think the near winover Denver

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Speaker 1: or the winover Philly is a mirage.

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Speaker 3: I said it going into the season.

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Speaker 1: I like their roster as long as their left tackle

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Speaker 1: who's hit and miss on help is healthy.

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Speaker 3: I like the.

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Speaker 7: Giants so they said, let me drill down on this,

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Speaker 7: because you've been saying for a few days now you

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Speaker 7: think the Giants have found their guy.

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Speaker 3: Absolute Jackson Dark Jackson's there.

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Speaker 7: I'm just gonna play. Is he a franchise quarterback or no? Yeah,

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Speaker 7: we'll go Jackson Dart. You say yes, yeah, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, well, he's been a franchise quarterback. I think

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Speaker 1: he is. But I think after all these years, I

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Speaker 1: think there's a clear ceiling. I think the size is

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Speaker 1: crucial at the position, and I would probably start over

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Speaker 1: in Arizona.

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Speaker 8: You would start. So he's not a franchise quack.

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Speaker 1: Okay, No, he's a franchise quarterback. But every I mean,

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Speaker 1: when you get it away from the top five quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in the league, people run their course in franchises.

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Speaker 2: So Caleb Williams, I.

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Speaker 1: Think he's a franchise quarterback. Bo Nicks absolutely a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 8: Okay.

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Speaker 7: Interesting, So you like the younger guys more. You know,

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Speaker 7: we've seen Kyler for five six years now and it's

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Speaker 7: not really happening.

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Speaker 8: One more young guy. JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: No, I've never thought he was a franchise I've never

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Speaker 1: ever bought into that No.

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Speaker 3: I said this before the draft.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think I My take was he didn't have

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Speaker 1: the traits I was looking for when I and I've

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Speaker 1: never been a fan of this. He's a winner means nothing.

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Speaker 1: Danny Wherfol was a winner in college. Tevo is a

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Speaker 1: winner in card That doesn't mean anything. Why he's a winner, Well,

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Speaker 1: if you play under heart of all, you're a winner always.

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Speaker 5: How's it?

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Speaker 3: Luck was a winner? But he has a trade.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, how's this?

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Speaker 7: If Dart can beat the Eagles again and sweep.

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Speaker 8: Them, I'll give it to you. He's a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 8: I see there's no way he's winning this.

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Speaker 7: But he hasn't made me look foolish Chargers Broncos, So

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Speaker 7: I don't know if I'm gonna go against him again.

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Speaker 7: Final story, Colin, this is just breaking here. In the

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Speaker 7: last hour, there are reports, now I'll just leave it

640
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Speaker 7: at on social media that the Cowboys are making a

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Speaker 7: move on Max Crosby of the Raiders. Now, Crosby was

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Speaker 7: injured against the Chiefs. They held him out of the

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Speaker 7: second half. It wouldn't have mattered. The Cowboys obviously traded

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Speaker 7: Micah Parsons at you know, right before the season started

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Speaker 7: and now just just a report.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna Why would the Raiders give up their

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Speaker 1: best player and the soul of the franchise.

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Speaker 8: Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Maybe because Jerry Jones does stupid deals all the time.

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Speaker 7: He lost this deal, The Micaeh Parsit trade he did

651
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 7: that wide receiver from Carolina was horrible. Trey Lance deal

652
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Speaker 7: was horrible. I mean, if you could get Jerry to

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Speaker 7: give you a first round pick for Crosby, I think

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00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 7: you got to take that and run, don't you.

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Speaker 1: I I don't like giving up. I didn't feel Micaeh

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Speaker 1: was the soul of the Cowboys. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: Dak and so I don't like giving up the soul

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Speaker 1: of a franchise. And I I don't Max Crosby is

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Speaker 1: the Raiders, Michael was not the Cowboys. Dack's the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: Jerry's the Cowboys. I yeah, I just don't get that. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't get it for either team. I don't get

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Speaker 1: it for you. If you're gonna sign Max, sign what

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Speaker 1: was the point of I mean, if you can.

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Speaker 8: It doesn't really make sense.

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Speaker 7: That being said, if the Raiders are able to get

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Speaker 7: a first for Crosby, I mean, that's elder abuse. They're

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Speaker 7: just taking advantage of Jerry Jones because there's no way,

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Speaker 7: I know, Crosby's awesome. You cannot give up a first

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Speaker 7: for Crosby after trading away Mike Go. I mean Michael

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Speaker 7: Parsons is he's rated as the number.

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Speaker 8: One ed rusher in the league. He said he's unstoppable.

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Speaker 3: Dallas is a great story.

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Speaker 1: They're not a super Bowl team, right, anybody making a

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Speaker 1: big swing. That's not a super Bowl team. At the

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Speaker 1: trade deadline, you should be selling, you know, get another pick,

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Speaker 1: get a you know, I just that would be weird.

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Speaker 7: Okay, what's the nine? I'm sorry, what if the Niners

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Speaker 7: made a move across?

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Speaker 3: That's different?

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Speaker 8: Yes, okay, we're on the same page.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, that's different. J Mack with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping that The

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Speaker 2: Herd Line News. Be sure to catch live editions of

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Speaker 7: Last night, the Blue Jays clinched their first pennant in

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Speaker 7: thirty two years after an incredible Game seven of the ALCS.

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Speaker 7: Now they'll host a Dodgers team looking for back to

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Speaker 7: back World Series titles. Coverage of Game one of the

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty five World Series begins Friday at seven pm Eastern,

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Speaker 7: four pm Pacific on Fox.

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Speaker 1: I think if you win as much as the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: have thirteen straight Playoff appearances and you can win back

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Speaker 1: to back, that's a dynasty.

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Speaker 3: There was always this sense you had to win three straight.

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Speaker 1: That feels very NBA because it was always a star

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Speaker 1: driven league. Now nobody can win back to back in

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Speaker 1: the NBA because of Adam Silver's new CBA and the

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Speaker 1: aprons and the cost to ownership. So I mean, I think,

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Speaker 1: if you're great for thirteen years and you win back

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Speaker 1: to back championship again. When I was a kid, Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Reds won back to back. I think it was like

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Speaker 1: seventy four to seventy five or I think it was

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Speaker 1: those years, and they had a lot of success, but

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Speaker 1: that was considered a dynasty, the Big Red Machine. It's

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Speaker 1: still revered in baseball history. So I think the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: are going for history. It's interesting though. A month ago,

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Speaker 1: September twenty first, the Chiefs were owing to the offense

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Speaker 1: leaked Old Creaky pedestrian and kind of lost. And a

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Speaker 1: month ago the Dodgers were getting ready for the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: The bullpen was a mess. The starting pitchers like Snell

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Speaker 1: and blastnow you know, had missed so much of the regulars.

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Speaker 1: And a month later they're like that writer at the

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Speaker 1: Tour de France who separates on the mountain stage. When

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Speaker 1: he reappears, he's leading, heading downhill and pulling away. It

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Speaker 1: feels like the Chiefs and the Dodgers are playing different sports.

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Speaker 1: And I think one of the things they both do

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Speaker 1: really well. It's hard to be good. It's harder to

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Speaker 1: be great. It's hardest to keep being great. And there's

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Speaker 1: some things you can't do. You can't be stubborn, you

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Speaker 1: can't be overly prideful. You got to spot your problems

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Speaker 1: address them immediately. I have watched in my life so

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Speaker 1: many businesses and sports teams get in their own way.

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Speaker 1: Dodgers never do.

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Speaker 3: They never do.

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Speaker 1: Chiefs never do. Everybody makes mistakes outside of anonymous trolls.

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Speaker 1: Nobody is perfect, right good Gie Andrew Friedman's had draft

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Speaker 1: picks that don't work. He's made deals that don't work.

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Speaker 1: I could name them. Nobody's perfect, but the Dodgers. They

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Speaker 1: move off their mistakes, they identify, they solve, and that's

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Speaker 1: what Kansas City's done. And listen, it's not easy managing

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers. You got the analytics guys upstairs. The expectations

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Speaker 1: are ridiculous. You do have the best batting order since

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Speaker 1: the seventy five Reds, and Dave Roberts talked about being

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Speaker 1: second guest.

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Speaker 10: There's always critics. Yeah, I think that we're in a

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Speaker 10: big market. We're expected to win. Our fans expect us

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Speaker 10: to win. I can't speak to what revenue we're bringing in,

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Speaker 10: but our ownership puts it back into players a big

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Speaker 10: chunk of it. That's what you want. I mean, I

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Speaker 10: would think that that's what sports fans want from everyone,

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Speaker 10: to get the best of their team. And I think

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Speaker 10: we do as.

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Speaker 3: Good a job as anyone.

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Speaker 1: I think Dave Roberts really plays the long game. Again,

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Speaker 1: I grew up with Earl Weaver and Billy Martin and

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Speaker 1: Whitey Herzog and very feisty Bobby Cox. Obviously, with the

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Speaker 1: Brave it's kind of a domineering guy. Like it's kind

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Speaker 1: of stubborn Dave Roberts. You can't be that as a

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Speaker 1: major league manager. You don't have the power you're used to.

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Speaker 1: The analytics department has the power, and Dave Roberts Aaron Boone.

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Speaker 1: The difference with the Yankees and the Dodgers. The Yankees

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Speaker 1: have all this money, they never solve their issues. They

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Speaker 1: just return the same GM and the same team and

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Speaker 1: the same problems. Home run dependent, can't play small ball,

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Speaker 1: don't really engineer runs, strike out too much, and not

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Speaker 1: great defensively. The Dodgers find problems, identify them. There's no ego,

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Speaker 1: and they move off them.

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Speaker 3: And I.

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Speaker 1: It's just easy to say, well what about the town.

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Speaker 1: Look at Philadelphia right now? The Eagles are a stacked roster.

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Speaker 1: What is their offensive identity?

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Speaker 3: They have none.

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Speaker 1: It's hard, you know, Shaq and Kobe, when you've got

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Speaker 1: the two best finishers in their prime in the game,

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Speaker 1: it is hard. I mean, the Miami Heat looked like

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Speaker 1: a dynasty. We're a dynasty. Then got old really fast

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Speaker 1: and it all blew up.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know. I just I.

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Speaker 1: Would never go to a restaurant where I thought the

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Speaker 1: quality dipped. I like following and watching well run businesses.

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Speaker 1: I support them like I when I go into places,

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Speaker 1: I look around. Is it well run, is it quick?

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Speaker 1: Is it efficient? Is it I want to cater to

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Speaker 1: those businesses. And I watch the Dodgers and I'm always

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Speaker 1: im I think that the best run sports franchise in

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Speaker 1: North America. And it's not just the money, because the

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Speaker 1: Yankees have it and they don't spend it smartly and

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Speaker 1: Kansas City, to their credit, a month ago, we're looking

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Speaker 1: at that offense and we're like, it's a mess. And

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now it's as deep a receiving

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Speaker 1: cor as Andy Reid's ever had. I mean, they just

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Speaker 1: they just make stuff work. They get to work, they

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Speaker 1: solve their stuff. And I also think it's really hard

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Speaker 1: to be great because the expectation. Everybody's on their phone,

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Speaker 1: including the athletes. The athletes are on their phone, they're

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Speaker 1: reading things. The Chiefs dynasty and the Dodgers dynasty under

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid seventy two percent. I mean that is insane

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Speaker 1: to win seventy two percent of your games. I mean,

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Speaker 1: go look at Bill Parcell's winning percentage, and he says,

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Speaker 1: good as good at coaches we've ever had. Solve the bullpens,

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Speaker 1: solve the receiving corps. Don't let pride and ego get

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Speaker 1: in the way, identify it, solve it. Be nimble, all right.

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Speaker 1: Our three, greg Olf, the Great Greg Golfen, is around

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Speaker 1: the corner.

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Speaker 3: Nick Wright heard hierarchy